WEBVTT 00:00:00.170 --> 00:00:03.910 Congregation, please be seated and open your 00:00:03.910 --> 00:00:07.269 prayer guides to the book of Revelations, Psalm 00:00:07.269 --> 00:00:11.609 69. Welcome to the Christian Cocktail Party, 00:00:11.830 --> 00:00:15.689 where faith meets fun, and every conversation 00:00:15.689 --> 00:00:18.530 is mixed with a little bit of grace and a whole 00:00:18.530 --> 00:00:22.550 lot of love. I'm Brother Sarge. And I'm Brother 00:00:22.550 --> 00:00:24.820 Maynard. And we're your hosts for this lively 00:00:24.820 --> 00:00:27.440 gathering of believers, seekers, and anyone looking 00:00:27.440 --> 00:00:30.960 to explore the beauty of Christianity in a fresh, 00:00:31.039 --> 00:00:33.979 casual way. That's right, Father Maynard. Each 00:00:33.979 --> 00:00:36.799 week, we'll bring you a spirited discussion, 00:00:37.119 --> 00:00:41.520 sometimes deep, sometimes lighthearted, but always 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:43.579 centered around the good news of Jesus and how 00:00:43.579 --> 00:00:47.740 it applies to our everyday lives. And don't worry, 00:00:47.920 --> 00:00:50.799 we'll have a cocktail ready for every occasion. 00:00:51.450 --> 00:00:53.909 whether it's a classic conversation or a modern 00:00:53.909 --> 00:00:56.609 twist on faith. So grab your favorite drink, 00:00:56.750 --> 00:00:59.770 pull up a chair, and join the party. Let's dive 00:00:59.770 --> 00:01:04.790 in. Welcome to Christian Cocktail Party. Okay, 00:01:05.030 --> 00:01:06.950 that's enough of that. April Fool's, everyone. 00:01:07.189 --> 00:01:10.370 We're still heathens in good standing. Welcome 00:01:10.370 --> 00:01:12.530 to Cryptid Cocktail Party. This is a show where 00:01:12.530 --> 00:01:16.049 we do not do any research on Jesus because we 00:01:16.049 --> 00:01:18.250 prefer to learn about creatures that might actually 00:01:18.250 --> 00:01:22.049 exist. With me today... are my best friends and 00:01:22.049 --> 00:01:24.930 actual neighbors, Maynard and Laura, because 00:01:24.930 --> 00:01:29.349 Dave is on a pilgrimage somewhere learning about 00:01:29.349 --> 00:01:32.069 dinosaurs. Maynard, Laura, how are we doing? 00:01:32.489 --> 00:01:37.430 Honored to be here and take Dave's place for 00:01:37.430 --> 00:01:42.329 that little joke. That was fun. I've never been 00:01:42.329 --> 00:01:46.090 called Father Maynard, so that could probably 00:01:46.090 --> 00:01:48.030 not be a thing. Father Maynard, you have the 00:01:48.030 --> 00:01:50.829 voice for it. So that works. Yes, I could give 00:01:50.829 --> 00:01:53.969 a hell of a sermon, I'm sure. Right. And anyone 00:01:53.969 --> 00:01:57.609 that might have listened to our very old podcast, 00:01:58.030 --> 00:02:01.349 Misguided Musings, you also had the abhorrent 00:02:01.349 --> 00:02:04.049 sexual appetite to go with it. Oh, wow. Yeah, 00:02:04.049 --> 00:02:06.349 Misguided Musings. There's a name I have not 00:02:06.349 --> 00:02:11.009 heard in a long time. Don't search the internet 00:02:11.009 --> 00:02:14.509 for that. Yeah, please don't. Yeah. Laura, how 00:02:14.509 --> 00:02:17.639 are you doing? I'm doing good. Doing great. It's 00:02:17.639 --> 00:02:19.560 been a while since I've been behind a microphone. 00:02:19.960 --> 00:02:22.879 It has been. It has been, but it probably won't 00:02:22.879 --> 00:02:27.639 be much longer. But we'll get to that. So the 00:02:27.639 --> 00:02:29.860 reason I invited you here today is my fellow 00:02:29.860 --> 00:02:32.099 Appalachian enthusiast. I figured there was no 00:02:32.099 --> 00:02:36.460 better topic to discuss than the deep, dark Appalachia 00:02:36.460 --> 00:02:38.879 region and some of the lesser known creatures 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:41.580 who call it home. But first, I thought it would 00:02:41.580 --> 00:02:43.020 be appropriate to talk a little bit about the 00:02:43.020 --> 00:02:46.340 history of the region of Appalachia. And the 00:02:46.340 --> 00:02:49.319 mountains who share the same name. First of all, 00:02:49.360 --> 00:02:53.240 there is no wrong way to pronounce Appalachia. 00:02:54.039 --> 00:02:57.259 Or Appalachia. The pronunciation really just 00:02:57.259 --> 00:03:02.900 depends on how far north or south you are. Exactly, 00:03:03.120 --> 00:03:06.759 yeah. So people up north call it Appalachia. 00:03:06.759 --> 00:03:10.360 People down south call it Appalachia. And there 00:03:10.360 --> 00:03:13.750 was a linguist. who has a YouTube channel whose 00:03:13.750 --> 00:03:15.710 name I forget, and I watched like a whole video 00:03:15.710 --> 00:03:19.310 on the pronunciation. And essentially, that's 00:03:19.310 --> 00:03:21.169 what he said. You know, it's really more of a 00:03:21.169 --> 00:03:23.789 regional dialect thing than a pronunciation issue. 00:03:24.990 --> 00:03:27.849 So anyway, since they share the name, let's start 00:03:27.849 --> 00:03:32.069 there. The word Appalachia is derived from the 00:03:32.069 --> 00:03:35.349 Appalachian Native American tribe. Interestingly, 00:03:35.370 --> 00:03:39.139 Appalachie... were only found on the panhandle 00:03:39.139 --> 00:03:41.919 of Florida. However, Spanish explorers used this 00:03:41.919 --> 00:03:43.819 name to define the region and later the mountain 00:03:43.819 --> 00:03:46.879 range to the northeast, the Appalachian Mountains. 00:03:47.099 --> 00:03:49.960 The Appalachian were affiliated with the Muskegon 00:03:49.960 --> 00:03:52.979 language, though that tribe was gone before the 00:03:52.979 --> 00:03:54.639 language could be thoroughly studied and classified, 00:03:54.840 --> 00:03:56.759 so very little information remains about the 00:03:56.759 --> 00:03:59.819 Appalachian tribe. Here's what little we do know 00:03:59.819 --> 00:04:03.240 about them. They had kind of established towns 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:06.000 as opposed to being a nomadic people. They had 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:08.439 a dual system of government, like a lot of Native 00:04:08.439 --> 00:04:10.419 American tribes where they had a war chief during 00:04:10.419 --> 00:04:13.240 times of conflict and a peace chief during times 00:04:13.240 --> 00:04:16.399 of tranquility. The leadership of the tribe was 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:19.959 gained through heredity. However, unlike European 00:04:19.959 --> 00:04:23.180 kings and queens, the Apalachee tribes, they 00:04:23.180 --> 00:04:29.279 determined heredity via matrilineality. I hope 00:04:29.279 --> 00:04:31.160 I said that right. That's a really big word. 00:04:31.620 --> 00:04:36.040 That was huge. Yeah. Matrilineality. I said it 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:41.379 right. It's a rough one. Or through the lineage 00:04:41.379 --> 00:04:43.759 of the mother. That's what it means. Oh, good. 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:46.279 I like that. I think it's pretty cool. One more 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:48.540 satisfying note is that the Apalachee kicked 00:04:48.540 --> 00:04:51.319 some serious conquistador ass. The Spanish claim 00:04:51.319 --> 00:04:53.300 that the Apalachee arrows were strong enough 00:04:53.300 --> 00:04:55.839 to break through chain mail. The natives often 00:04:55.839 --> 00:04:58.459 targeted the horses rather than the rider. The 00:04:58.459 --> 00:05:00.319 Spanish and Apalachee eventually maintained an 00:05:00.319 --> 00:05:03.160 uneasy truce. After the British acquired Florida, 00:05:03.399 --> 00:05:05.500 the remaining Apalachee were moved to either 00:05:05.500 --> 00:05:08.040 Mexico or Cuba. There are most certainly some 00:05:08.040 --> 00:05:09.920 who maintain the Apalachee heritage in the U 00:05:09.920 --> 00:05:12.019 .S. today, but there are no recognized tribes. 00:05:12.240 --> 00:05:16.199 How are we doing so far? I got it. I learned 00:05:16.199 --> 00:05:19.939 a lot today so far. Yeah, yeah. I'm a nerd, so 00:05:19.939 --> 00:05:21.620 unfortunately this is what you guys are going 00:05:21.620 --> 00:05:24.879 to have to deal with. Now, where is Apalachee? 00:05:24.939 --> 00:05:28.720 So the Apalachee region is... rural eastern region 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:30.500 in the United States that is known for its distinct 00:05:30.500 --> 00:05:34.220 culture landscape landscape and industry coal 00:05:34.220 --> 00:05:36.980 mining and logging this region contains all a 00:05:36.980 --> 00:05:39.800 part of the 13 US states so it's all of West 00:05:39.800 --> 00:05:42.779 Virginia and then part of Alabama Georgia Kentucky 00:05:42.779 --> 00:05:45.199 Maryland Mississippi New York North Carolina 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:48.500 Ohio Pennsylvania South Carolina Tennessee and 00:05:48.500 --> 00:05:52.279 Virginia This region was not called Appalachia 00:05:52.279 --> 00:05:57.540 until the 1890s. Almost as soon as the region 00:05:57.540 --> 00:05:59.339 was identified, journalists started doing what 00:05:59.339 --> 00:06:01.779 journalists do best, stoking fear and derision. 00:06:02.600 --> 00:06:05.540 So given the relative poverty and isolation of 00:06:05.540 --> 00:06:08.019 the people of Appalachia, they became easy targets 00:06:08.019 --> 00:06:11.680 for stories about incest, feuds, moonshine, crime, 00:06:11.939 --> 00:06:14.339 and superstition. Though this practice has waned 00:06:14.339 --> 00:06:17.120 over the decades, old stereotypes linger on. 00:06:18.139 --> 00:06:21.259 You might be curious as to why Appalachia has 00:06:21.259 --> 00:06:24.639 so much poverty. And, well, in short, it's due 00:06:24.639 --> 00:06:27.660 to fucking capitalism, as usual. So the region 00:06:27.660 --> 00:06:29.759 was seen as a massive logging camp, essentially, 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:31.579 with a coal mine underneath it. So businesses 00:06:31.579 --> 00:06:33.759 came in, bought up all the resources, exploited 00:06:33.759 --> 00:06:36.319 the workers, and then fucked off when all the 00:06:36.319 --> 00:06:38.060 money dried up. While the residents were left 00:06:38.060 --> 00:06:41.480 with pollution, raging coal fires like in Centralia, 00:06:41.560 --> 00:06:45.399 and virtually no other sustained industry. so 00:06:45.399 --> 00:06:48.339 by the 1960s due to efforts by the appalachian 00:06:48.339 --> 00:06:51.259 regional commission appalachia slowly caught 00:06:51.259 --> 00:06:54.279 up to the rest of the u .s somewhat but still 00:06:54.279 --> 00:06:56.279 lags behind the rest of the country in a number 00:06:56.279 --> 00:07:01.160 of economic indicators okay so what about the 00:07:01.160 --> 00:07:04.500 mountains well it's interesting because appalachia 00:07:04.500 --> 00:07:07.519 was named after the appalachian mountains which 00:07:07.519 --> 00:07:10.620 was named by the spanish for a tribe that spent 00:07:10.620 --> 00:07:15.420 no time in the mountains The Appalachians are 00:07:15.420 --> 00:07:17.339 a range of mountains that run through 16 U .S. 00:07:17.360 --> 00:07:19.720 states, Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:21.800 Connecticut, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, Maryland, 00:07:22.000 --> 00:07:24.240 West Virginia, Virginia, Kentucky, North Carolina, 00:07:24.439 --> 00:07:28.779 Tennessee, Georgia, and Alabama. So they run 00:07:28.779 --> 00:07:30.779 through three countries, the United States and 00:07:30.779 --> 00:07:33.639 Canada, which would make sense, but a third country 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:37.180 is France, strangely enough, but only because 00:07:37.180 --> 00:07:39.480 they hold some overseas territorial land south 00:07:39.480 --> 00:07:42.709 of Newfoundland. The Appalachians were part of 00:07:42.709 --> 00:07:45.170 a larger mountain range called the Central Pangean 00:07:45.170 --> 00:07:47.050 Range, making them some of the oldest mountains 00:07:47.050 --> 00:07:50.370 in existence. When the supercontinent of Pangea 00:07:50.370 --> 00:07:52.230 split up, we kept the Appalachians while the 00:07:52.230 --> 00:07:54.389 United Kingdom got the Cairngorm Mountains in 00:07:54.389 --> 00:07:59.230 Scotland, the Pennines in England, and Snowdonia 00:07:59.230 --> 00:08:02.050 in Wales. The Atlas Mountains in Africa are also 00:08:02.050 --> 00:08:04.370 remnants from the Central Pangean Range. Yeah, 00:08:04.389 --> 00:08:08.379 it's kind of crazy. I was going to say that the 00:08:08.379 --> 00:08:12.180 mountain range in Scotland is exactly the same 00:08:12.180 --> 00:08:14.079 as the Appalachian Mountains because they were 00:08:14.079 --> 00:08:17.339 once the same thing and they were apart. Yeah, 00:08:17.439 --> 00:08:20.560 so when Pangaea split up, it kind of split right 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:22.199 down the middle of the range, so the range kind 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:25.540 of got dragged over to Europe and Africa, which 00:08:25.540 --> 00:08:29.160 is just fascinating to me. I never even considered 00:08:29.160 --> 00:08:32.970 that, so I love that. So, given their lineage, 00:08:33.149 --> 00:08:34.970 the Appalachian Mountains are believed to be 00:08:34.970 --> 00:08:37.610 nearly 500 million years old, making them older 00:08:37.610 --> 00:08:40.350 than the first trees by 100 million years and 00:08:40.350 --> 00:08:42.850 close to the same age as the earliest shark species. 00:08:43.669 --> 00:08:45.690 So, while not the oldest mountains in existence, 00:08:45.889 --> 00:08:48.230 they're pretty close. Okay, so why is all this 00:08:48.230 --> 00:08:50.149 relevant? Why did I make you listen to all that? 00:08:50.330 --> 00:08:52.610 Well, because I'm incapable of telling a story 00:08:52.610 --> 00:08:54.950 without knowing as much as I can, and now you 00:08:54.950 --> 00:08:57.210 have to suffer. Consider yourselves lucky that 00:08:57.210 --> 00:08:58.870 I remembered that this is supposed to be a 30 00:08:58.870 --> 00:09:01.580 -minute podcast while I was writing this. What 00:09:01.580 --> 00:09:03.860 do you think so far? You did a good job. And 00:09:03.860 --> 00:09:07.159 we're used, we're used to your dumping knowledge 00:09:07.159 --> 00:09:10.399 on us. So that's why we sit quietly and we wait 00:09:10.399 --> 00:09:14.159 until it's our turn. So no, but it's really interesting. 00:09:14.360 --> 00:09:18.139 It's a painful addiction that I, I'm compelled 00:09:18.139 --> 00:09:22.059 to dump as much information as possible. But 00:09:22.059 --> 00:09:25.620 it's just, I, I was like thinking to myself as 00:09:25.620 --> 00:09:28.659 I'm like looking up stories from the Appalachia 00:09:28.659 --> 00:09:31.960 area and I'm like, Why do they call it this? 00:09:32.820 --> 00:09:35.039 And then that sent me down a whole landslide 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:38.080 where I just couldn't stop myself. You're like, 00:09:38.100 --> 00:09:40.639 well, I can't leave this out. Well, I did learn 00:09:40.639 --> 00:09:42.379 something. I didn't know the whole Pangea thing 00:09:42.379 --> 00:09:44.059 and how the mountains were the same. So that 00:09:44.059 --> 00:09:46.200 was really interesting. Yeah. I learned something. 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:48.940 It's really cool. Weirdly enough, I also discovered 00:09:48.940 --> 00:09:51.860 that the Blue Ridge Mountains are actually older. 00:09:51.940 --> 00:09:55.220 They're about like 1 .5 billion years old. Wow. 00:09:55.320 --> 00:09:57.779 Wow. Yeah, weird, right? Because I was like, 00:09:57.860 --> 00:10:01.659 well, where do the Appalachian Mountains stack 00:10:01.659 --> 00:10:04.259 up versus the other mountain ranges in terms 00:10:04.259 --> 00:10:07.080 of age? And we're not even in the top 10. That's 00:10:07.080 --> 00:10:10.799 crazy. Yeah. Okay, so now if you've been watching 00:10:10.799 --> 00:10:13.480 Instagram Reels lately, you already know how 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:15.980 ubiquitous the haunting folklore of Appalachia 00:10:15.980 --> 00:10:19.779 has become. Between cryptids, ghosts, and disembodied 00:10:19.779 --> 00:10:22.000 whistles, these old -ass mountains are teeming 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:24.799 with spooky shit. In our last episode, we covered 00:10:24.799 --> 00:10:29.139 the Appalachian phenomena of the not -deer. But 00:10:29.139 --> 00:10:32.259 there are a lot of lesser -known creatures, and 00:10:32.259 --> 00:10:34.320 we're going to cover a few of them today. Starting 00:10:34.320 --> 00:10:39.279 off with haints. That's H -A -I -N -T -S. Haints. 00:10:39.379 --> 00:10:42.639 Have you guys ever heard of this? No, I haint. 00:10:43.620 --> 00:10:46.600 It sounds like a disease. It sounds like a skin 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:50.539 rash. I got the haint. I got a mean case of the 00:10:50.539 --> 00:10:53.330 haint. I feel like we could rename it. The haint 00:10:53.330 --> 00:10:55.750 sounds like you have a heat rash on your taint. 00:10:56.009 --> 00:11:00.970 No, there you go. Sounds like a cousin of the 00:11:00.970 --> 00:11:04.830 gout. I'm glad that we could go in that direction 00:11:04.830 --> 00:11:07.570 on this podcast. Oh, yeah. No, this podcast is 00:11:07.570 --> 00:11:09.809 no different. You know, I got a little thrown 00:11:09.809 --> 00:11:11.210 off at the beginning there, and I'm just like, 00:11:11.269 --> 00:11:14.389 oh, I'm not going to say anything. No, we have 00:11:14.389 --> 00:11:16.830 no language standards. We can say what we want 00:11:16.830 --> 00:11:20.889 here. So it is believed that the term haint originates 00:11:20.889 --> 00:11:23.230 from the Gulagichi people. Have you guys heard 00:11:23.230 --> 00:11:27.269 of these people? Gulagichi? Yeah, these guys, 00:11:27.429 --> 00:11:29.730 these are fascinating people. This is another 00:11:29.730 --> 00:11:31.710 rabbit hole I went down that I had to restrict 00:11:31.710 --> 00:11:34.750 myself to like one paragraph on. The Gulagichi 00:11:34.750 --> 00:11:36.690 people are a group of people who are descendants 00:11:36.690 --> 00:11:40.870 from slaves from Angola. And largely just Central 00:11:40.870 --> 00:11:43.029 Africa in general, but apparently predominantly 00:11:43.029 --> 00:11:46.649 Angola. These people are especially unique because 00:11:46.649 --> 00:11:49.210 they lived in relative isolation from white people 00:11:49.210 --> 00:11:51.429 on rural plantations, thus maintaining a lot 00:11:51.429 --> 00:11:55.149 of Central African cultural customs. Their language 00:11:55.149 --> 00:11:58.190 is known as Geechee, a form of Creole, and you 00:11:58.190 --> 00:11:59.990 can learn a lot more about these folks by searching 00:11:59.990 --> 00:12:01.690 their name, but a lot of my information came 00:12:01.690 --> 00:12:04.909 from the Gulagichi Corridor website. So that's 00:12:04.909 --> 00:12:08.549 Gulagichi Corridor. If you search that and Google 00:12:08.549 --> 00:12:10.049 their website, it's like one of the first ones 00:12:10.049 --> 00:12:11.850 that come up. Okay, so now that we've talked 00:12:11.850 --> 00:12:13.490 about their name, let's talk about what they 00:12:13.490 --> 00:12:16.789 are. According to folklore, a haint is a malevolent 00:12:16.789 --> 00:12:20.090 spirit of ghosts. They are thought to bring harm 00:12:20.090 --> 00:12:22.309 or misfortune, according to literally every source 00:12:22.309 --> 00:12:24.730 I checked, based on the information that I found. 00:12:25.169 --> 00:12:27.169 A haint doesn't really have a particular description. 00:12:27.870 --> 00:12:30.269 Much like the concept of ghosts, haints seem 00:12:30.269 --> 00:12:33.769 to take many forms, and they're likely more characterized 00:12:33.769 --> 00:12:36.110 by the effect that they have on future events, 00:12:36.210 --> 00:12:37.970 rather than the form that they take when they 00:12:37.970 --> 00:12:40.470 appear. So to paraphrase in the immortal words 00:12:40.470 --> 00:12:43.710 of Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart, I don't 00:12:43.710 --> 00:12:46.149 know what a haint is, but I'll know it when I 00:12:46.149 --> 00:12:49.350 experience some bad luck three days later. Oh, 00:12:49.389 --> 00:12:52.730 interesting. Okay. Yeah. So one website called 00:12:52.730 --> 00:12:54.669 The Mountain Laurel contained a story that was 00:12:54.669 --> 00:12:56.309 passed down, and I figured this was an excellent 00:12:56.309 --> 00:12:59.490 way to illustrate my point. This comes from, 00:12:59.629 --> 00:13:03.509 the story comes from Thomas Jeff Willis, who 00:13:03.509 --> 00:13:06.769 lived in the foothills in a place called Willis 00:13:06.769 --> 00:13:10.059 Gap in Kentucky. And this is a direct quote from 00:13:10.059 --> 00:13:13.539 Tom's grandson, Glenn Worrell. Jeff was up in 00:13:13.539 --> 00:13:16.299 the mountain. He saw a man on the bank. The man 00:13:16.299 --> 00:13:18.500 was acting strangely and trying to scare him. 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:22.059 As the man came toward him, Jeff thought this 00:13:22.059 --> 00:13:25.620 was his brother, Ellis. So Jeff told him, stop 00:13:25.620 --> 00:13:28.240 or I'll shoot. To his brother. Which isn't really 00:13:28.240 --> 00:13:31.240 helping the reputation that the Appalachian people 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:35.059 have gotten. I'm going to shoot my brother. That 00:13:35.059 --> 00:13:37.580 was my brother. Stop or I'll shoot. Yeah, the 00:13:37.580 --> 00:13:40.639 man didn't stop, so Jeff drew his gun and shot 00:13:40.639 --> 00:13:43.200 up in the air. When the shot rang out, the man 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:46.360 disappeared into thin air. Jeff went home again, 00:13:46.519 --> 00:13:49.620 scared terribly. When he got there, his brother 00:13:49.620 --> 00:13:53.320 Ellis was asleep in bed. So Jeff woke him and 00:13:53.320 --> 00:13:55.779 asked him why he was trying to scare him, and 00:13:55.779 --> 00:13:57.879 Ellis said he didn't know what Jeff was talking 00:13:57.879 --> 00:14:01.080 about. Three days later, Ellis took sick and 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:06.419 all of a sudden died. Whoa. Crazy, right? So 00:14:06.419 --> 00:14:08.559 that's kind of the vibe we're getting from haints, 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:11.399 apparently, is that they're kind of an omen. 00:14:11.740 --> 00:14:14.139 So they've often been referred to as just southern 00:14:14.139 --> 00:14:16.879 ghosts, but if you're familiar with ghost stories 00:14:16.879 --> 00:14:19.059 from the south, these stories don't really end 00:14:19.059 --> 00:14:22.100 up with future calamities. If anything, a haint 00:14:22.100 --> 00:14:25.600 seems closer to a banshee in that encounter because 00:14:25.600 --> 00:14:29.159 it often leads to misfortune. Much like if you 00:14:29.159 --> 00:14:33.960 hear a banshee's call, a family member is likely 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:37.409 to pass away. Yikes. What does a banshee sound 00:14:37.409 --> 00:14:40.690 like? Is it screeching? I think it's wailing, 00:14:40.750 --> 00:14:43.529 isn't it? Is it wailing? Yeah, I'm pretty sure 00:14:43.529 --> 00:14:46.230 it's wailing. I could be wrong, but I think banshees 00:14:46.230 --> 00:14:49.870 kind of howl and wail like they're crying, which 00:14:49.870 --> 00:14:52.789 is similar. I think we talked about it in the 00:14:52.789 --> 00:14:56.990 La Llorona episode where we talked about women 00:14:56.990 --> 00:14:59.629 in white crying. Oh, that's right. Yeah, and 00:14:59.629 --> 00:15:01.870 near water. No, I was just thinking of all the 00:15:01.870 --> 00:15:05.509 conservation land behind our house. In the summer, 00:15:05.590 --> 00:15:08.470 we hear lots of... Last summer, it was fisher 00:15:08.470 --> 00:15:11.169 cats, so now I'm kind of scared. Yeah, right? 00:15:12.169 --> 00:15:14.289 So it's interesting that you mentioned water 00:15:14.289 --> 00:15:18.970 because according to the folklore, haints are 00:15:18.970 --> 00:15:21.929 afraid of water. Oh, interesting. Yeah, and this 00:15:21.929 --> 00:15:25.409 is so well known that houses have doors, window 00:15:25.409 --> 00:15:28.549 shutters, and even porches painted blue to confuse 00:15:28.549 --> 00:15:30.710 the haints. Oh, I love that. To keep them out 00:15:30.710 --> 00:15:34.129 of the house. Yeah. This is so common that... 00:15:34.350 --> 00:15:36.690 that the paint company Sherwin -Williams even 00:15:36.690 --> 00:15:41.049 created a paint color called Haint Blue. Seriously? 00:15:41.350 --> 00:15:43.730 Really? Yeah, it's like a really light, kind 00:15:43.730 --> 00:15:47.690 of pretty periwinkle blue color. Oh my gosh. 00:15:47.690 --> 00:15:50.269 And I guess in South Carolina, you'll see a lot 00:15:50.269 --> 00:15:53.590 of houses, especially in like Charlestown, that 00:15:53.590 --> 00:15:56.169 have that like light blue color. You're looking 00:15:56.169 --> 00:15:57.330 it up? Yeah, I'm looking it up. Yeah, you'll 00:15:57.330 --> 00:16:00.330 see it's really, really pretty. Well, I'm a designer 00:16:00.330 --> 00:16:02.649 and I went to art school, so anything about color 00:16:02.649 --> 00:16:06.129 and... histories of color is really cool. Yeah. 00:16:06.190 --> 00:16:08.750 What you'll see is you'll see like porches trimmed 00:16:08.750 --> 00:16:10.789 in it. And then the ceilings of the porches are 00:16:10.789 --> 00:16:13.750 painted in that blue color. Yeah. And then the 00:16:13.750 --> 00:16:15.690 window shutters, the doors, and I forget what 00:16:15.690 --> 00:16:18.590 else, but yeah, really, really pretty kind of 00:16:18.590 --> 00:16:22.230 a cool idea. I love that, that, that style kind 00:16:22.230 --> 00:16:25.149 of created a, or I'm sorry, that folklore created 00:16:25.149 --> 00:16:28.269 a style. I think that's really interesting. Very 00:16:28.269 --> 00:16:31.549 cool. All right. So, uh, what do you guys think? 00:16:32.409 --> 00:16:35.750 Haints? Like if we think like, do we believe 00:16:35.750 --> 00:16:38.929 in them or are they possible? Do we think are 00:16:38.929 --> 00:16:42.230 they possible? Oh, I think for sure. Yeah, I 00:16:42.230 --> 00:16:44.169 think for sure. You know, especially, you know, 00:16:44.169 --> 00:16:48.190 if it's an omen, you know, just the rich historical, 00:16:48.309 --> 00:16:51.529 you know, very, you know, the culture of the 00:16:51.529 --> 00:16:54.269 people of Appalachia. Yeah. The folklore kind 00:16:54.269 --> 00:16:57.029 of around the world also ties into that. When 00:16:57.029 --> 00:17:00.129 we talk about La Llorona and we talk about Banshees. 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:04.920 And ladies in white and other cultures, I think 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:07.220 a haint is just another version of that. Mm -hmm. 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:13.460 For sure. I also love the entomology of the word. 00:17:13.859 --> 00:17:16.200 Did I say that right? Etymology or entomology? 00:17:16.339 --> 00:17:18.900 I messed it up. We got you. We got you. You smell 00:17:18.900 --> 00:17:24.019 what I'm stepping in. So apparently haint is 00:17:24.019 --> 00:17:26.759 believed to be a Creole version because that's 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:28.519 what the Gullah Geechee speak is like a form 00:17:28.519 --> 00:17:33.390 of Creole. Apparently, haint is their version 00:17:33.390 --> 00:17:36.789 of the word haunt. But back then, a haunt was 00:17:36.789 --> 00:17:39.049 some malevolent spirit, not just what they did. 00:17:39.190 --> 00:17:42.049 So it was a noun and a verb. Yeah. It's a weird 00:17:42.049 --> 00:17:44.650 word still. It is a weird word. I think, you 00:17:44.650 --> 00:17:46.809 know, I hear haint and I think saint. So like 00:17:46.809 --> 00:17:50.369 a hateful saint. I don't know. That's kind of 00:17:50.369 --> 00:17:52.490 weird. That was my immediate. A vengeful saint. 00:17:53.210 --> 00:17:54.849 I'm like a saint that used to be good but now 00:17:54.849 --> 00:17:58.900 is bad and knows all. I don't know. But haunt 00:17:58.900 --> 00:18:00.440 and haint, yeah, especially with the accents, 00:18:00.700 --> 00:18:02.680 you know, different regional accents. It's like 00:18:02.680 --> 00:18:09.119 a saint to turn heel. It's just a guy in a robe, 00:18:09.140 --> 00:18:12.099 but he's also got devil horns. All right. So 00:18:12.099 --> 00:18:15.579 what was interesting about this is I heard about 00:18:15.579 --> 00:18:18.400 haints. All I could really find was a lot of 00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:21.319 people talking about the fact that they exist, 00:18:21.440 --> 00:18:23.359 but no one really had a lot of great stories 00:18:23.359 --> 00:18:25.039 about it. So I was like Googling and Googling. 00:18:25.819 --> 00:18:27.559 And that's when I came across our next creature. 00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:32.759 It's called the white fang. Fang? Fang. So the 00:18:32.759 --> 00:18:36.599 white, T -H -A -N -G, fang. That sounds like 00:18:36.599 --> 00:18:39.559 something you'd buy at a convenience store in 00:18:39.559 --> 00:18:44.640 a rural Alabama. It's got like 20 % alcohol, 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:48.519 malt liquor. Really strong liquor. It's like 00:18:48.519 --> 00:18:51.299 a popsicle that you get, like one of those alcoholic 00:18:51.299 --> 00:18:54.599 popsicles. Oh. It's just got lightning bolts 00:18:54.599 --> 00:18:58.869 on it. It's like white cherry flavor. White cherry 00:18:58.869 --> 00:19:03.009 lightning flavor. It's the best one. It's just 00:19:03.009 --> 00:19:07.109 moonshine and gasoline. There you go. All right. 00:19:07.130 --> 00:19:09.589 So according to who you talk to, the white fang 00:19:09.589 --> 00:19:12.390 is either a species of Sasquatch or a totally 00:19:12.390 --> 00:19:15.130 different creature. Some have described it as 00:19:15.130 --> 00:19:17.190 walking on all fours, while others say it walks 00:19:17.190 --> 00:19:20.410 upright. The most consistent description, much 00:19:20.410 --> 00:19:22.809 like the modern Republican Party, this thing 00:19:22.809 --> 00:19:27.799 is just very white. I couldn't resist. Sightings 00:19:27.799 --> 00:19:31.400 of the White Fang go back to the early 1900s 00:19:31.400 --> 00:19:33.720 and are mostly isolated to Tennessee and Alabama. 00:19:33.819 --> 00:19:36.859 However, according to Leslie Morgan from the 00:19:36.859 --> 00:19:41.559 radio station WRKQ, the White Fang has been spotted 00:19:41.559 --> 00:19:45.740 in a place called Hainton Holler. Hainton Holler? 00:19:45.759 --> 00:19:50.099 Is it a town? It's really like a test of my ability 00:19:50.099 --> 00:19:52.579 to pronounce regional dialects in places I'm 00:19:52.579 --> 00:19:56.740 not from. So it's Hainton. I'm guessing it should 00:19:56.740 --> 00:20:00.460 be Hainting, which would be haunting if you went 00:20:00.460 --> 00:20:03.480 all the way through it. Hainton Holler in Kentucky. 00:20:04.259 --> 00:20:06.759 Okay. So look at that. Haints found their way 00:20:06.759 --> 00:20:09.619 into this one, too. Hainton Holler is an area 00:20:09.619 --> 00:20:13.059 off Kentucky Highway 3115 in Cumberland County, 00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:17.279 and it seems to be very similar to the Bridgewater 00:20:17.279 --> 00:20:20.359 Triangle. Oh, we know that. Yeah, trademarked 00:20:20.359 --> 00:20:23.180 by Lauren Coleman. Don't sue me. But yes, the 00:20:23.180 --> 00:20:26.019 Bridgewater Triangle. People have reported seeing 00:20:26.019 --> 00:20:28.940 strange lights, headless horsemen, a Native American 00:20:28.940 --> 00:20:31.640 woman walking with a white trapper for some reason. 00:20:32.339 --> 00:20:35.900 And of course, the White Fang. In Hate and Holler, 00:20:35.940 --> 00:20:38.720 every time I say the White Fang, I'm expecting 00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:50.160 there to be like just a guitar riff. So in Hate 00:20:50.160 --> 00:20:52.559 and Holler, the White Fang apparently walks on 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:55.309 all fours. has a haunting scream, and climbs 00:20:55.309 --> 00:20:58.950 trees. Like the white thang in Alabama and Tennessee, 00:20:59.150 --> 00:21:01.549 some people say white thang walks upright sometimes, 00:21:01.809 --> 00:21:04.650 too. Physical descriptions vary across accounts, 00:21:04.910 --> 00:21:07.930 with some people saying that white thang doesn't 00:21:07.930 --> 00:21:10.470 have eyes or ears. Others say it's basically 00:21:10.470 --> 00:21:13.710 just an albino bigfoot standing at about six 00:21:13.710 --> 00:21:17.069 foot nine inches with red eyes. Oh. Yeah. So 00:21:17.069 --> 00:21:19.630 it's like if an albino bunny rabbit turned into 00:21:19.630 --> 00:21:22.130 a gorilla. Is it... Wait, it's gorilla size? 00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:24.619 Yeah, it's like six foot... Well, no, it's bigger 00:21:24.619 --> 00:21:26.240 than a gorilla because it's like six foot nine. 00:21:26.500 --> 00:21:29.500 It sounds like Grandpa got, you know, a hold 00:21:29.500 --> 00:21:33.279 of moonshine and went running in the woods. I 00:21:33.279 --> 00:21:35.839 don't think that's a... He's just old and hairy, 00:21:35.940 --> 00:21:38.200 man. Don't worry about it. What's that white 00:21:38.200 --> 00:21:42.339 thing over there? That's just Grandpa. He just 00:21:42.339 --> 00:21:48.039 wants to play some basketball. No, other... He's 00:21:48.039 --> 00:21:50.220 six foot nine, so... It's just Grandpa. He's 00:21:50.220 --> 00:21:51.920 got a mean hook shot. He's just throwing down. 00:21:52.710 --> 00:21:54.809 So some people have jumped onto the trend of 00:21:54.809 --> 00:21:58.269 associating Bigfoot with aliens by saying that 00:21:58.269 --> 00:22:01.490 White Fang is an alien hybrid because strange 00:22:01.490 --> 00:22:04.849 lights appear near White Fang's sightings and 00:22:04.849 --> 00:22:07.849 they disappear at the same time. Almost everyone 00:22:07.849 --> 00:22:09.950 agrees that White Fang doesn't attack people, 00:22:10.049 --> 00:22:12.569 but his scream is actually what scares people. 00:22:12.849 --> 00:22:15.269 Can you imagine if Bigfoot saw aliens before 00:22:15.269 --> 00:22:21.089 we did? Maybe Bigfoot and aliens existed independent 00:22:21.089 --> 00:22:24.440 of each other. and just decided to team up they're 00:22:24.440 --> 00:22:27.480 like hey you're blurry on film we're blurry on 00:22:27.480 --> 00:22:30.559 film let's work together they don't believe we 00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:34.940 exist let's show them exactly so what do you 00:22:34.940 --> 00:22:38.220 think albino sasquatch alien hybrid or its own 00:22:38.220 --> 00:22:41.640 thing i want it to be an alien hybrid but it's 00:22:41.640 --> 00:22:44.180 probably its own thing i'm sticking with grandpa 00:22:44.180 --> 00:22:46.279 i think it's driving i really like the grandpa 00:22:46.279 --> 00:22:49.400 idea that it's just this super tall old man with 00:22:49.400 --> 00:22:51.950 white body hair Yeah, he's just like a hairy 00:22:51.950 --> 00:22:55.309 old, you know, yeah. And when he gets enough 00:22:55.309 --> 00:22:57.150 moonshine in him, he climbs trees. Yeah, and 00:22:57.150 --> 00:22:59.190 I'm sure his eyes get red and bloodshot and probably 00:22:59.190 --> 00:23:01.109 spouts off a bunch of gibberish. You're like, 00:23:01.230 --> 00:23:02.569 all right, Grandpa, just stay outside tonight. 00:23:02.730 --> 00:23:04.529 You need to cool off. Well, yeah, I mean, have 00:23:04.529 --> 00:23:07.690 you ever seen like old people who kind of have 00:23:07.690 --> 00:23:11.109 like red around their eyes? Yeah, like old crotchety. 00:23:11.269 --> 00:23:13.529 You're just like, all right. Yeah, he's just 00:23:13.529 --> 00:23:17.210 grumpy. It's a thing. It's like not like he's 00:23:17.210 --> 00:23:21.180 all skin and bones now and hair. Oh, there is 00:23:21.180 --> 00:23:24.759 one thing. So almost everyone agrees that White 00:23:24.759 --> 00:23:27.559 Fang doesn't attack. It's not a violent creature. 00:23:27.720 --> 00:23:30.539 But its scream is what scares people. So maybe 00:23:30.539 --> 00:23:33.640 Grandpa's also just, like, hard of hearing? Yeah, 00:23:33.660 --> 00:23:38.400 it's true. What? I don't want to come home. What? 00:23:39.599 --> 00:23:46.000 I'm sleeping out here. Okay, so we have talked 00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:48.160 about White Fang. We've talked about Haint's. 00:23:48.839 --> 00:23:51.619 Now we're going to get into my personal favorite, 00:23:51.880 --> 00:23:55.319 Mimics. So this thing is all the rage. Yeah, 00:23:55.359 --> 00:23:59.420 Mimics. Okay. This thing is all the rage on Instagram. 00:23:59.680 --> 00:24:01.539 You can't watch Reels. Oh, it's all the rage, 00:24:01.539 --> 00:24:03.799 huh? Yeah, you can't watch Reels without it. 00:24:04.099 --> 00:24:06.779 Oh, you can't watch the Reels, huh? What's happening 00:24:06.779 --> 00:24:11.720 right now? I'm mimicking you. Wow, okay, never 00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:14.720 mind, sorry. I am so slow. Okay, so not to be 00:24:14.720 --> 00:24:17.019 confused with the Native American Wendigo, which 00:24:17.019 --> 00:24:19.710 is its own... separate entity the appellation 00:24:19.710 --> 00:24:23.049 mimic is harder to describe none of the sources 00:24:23.049 --> 00:24:26.430 i encountered described its physicality but all 00:24:26.430 --> 00:24:29.690 of them describe the encounters mimics apparently 00:24:29.690 --> 00:24:32.089 replicate all kinds of sounds from running water 00:24:32.089 --> 00:24:35.329 laughter and even the voices of loved ones I 00:24:35.329 --> 00:24:37.829 found a cool story from a TikTok. A woman named 00:24:37.829 --> 00:24:40.109 Jen and her husband went camping with their dog 00:24:40.109 --> 00:24:43.450 in a remote area. This was as told by Distractify. 00:24:43.549 --> 00:24:45.529 I tried to click on the TikTok video, wouldn't 00:24:45.529 --> 00:24:48.069 let me watch it. So Distractify picked up the 00:24:48.069 --> 00:24:50.390 story and published it. Jen and her husband were 00:24:50.390 --> 00:24:53.750 camping with their dog in a remote area, which 00:24:53.750 --> 00:24:59.430 is typical for the Appalachia area. They expected 00:24:59.430 --> 00:25:01.569 primitive and private conditions, and that's 00:25:01.569 --> 00:25:03.509 what they got. However, Jen explains in the TikTok 00:25:03.509 --> 00:25:06.349 video she didn't expect to cut the trip so early. 00:25:06.569 --> 00:25:08.569 They sped away the same day they arrived at their 00:25:08.569 --> 00:25:11.390 site, and here's why. Her husband was cooking 00:25:11.390 --> 00:25:13.430 at their campsite, and she walked into the woods 00:25:13.430 --> 00:25:16.390 to make poopies. Well, it says go to the bathroom, 00:25:16.490 --> 00:25:18.509 but I'm guessing she was just going to fire one 00:25:18.509 --> 00:25:21.509 out real quick. Well, it's campfire food, so. 00:25:21.869 --> 00:25:23.769 Yeah, she's going to make room. It's fine. It's 00:25:23.769 --> 00:25:26.700 difficult. But that's when the mimic started. 00:25:26.779 --> 00:25:28.940 It's actually when she's going to the bathroom. 00:25:29.059 --> 00:25:31.640 Jen says in the video that when she was in the 00:25:31.640 --> 00:25:35.859 woods, she heard meow, meow, which is an inside 00:25:35.859 --> 00:25:39.339 joke that she and her husband sometimes say to 00:25:39.339 --> 00:25:41.619 each other, I guess. When she turned around, 00:25:41.700 --> 00:25:43.400 no one was there, and she says it couldn't have 00:25:43.400 --> 00:25:45.660 been her husband playing the prank on her. It 00:25:45.660 --> 00:25:47.259 doesn't say why it couldn't have been him, but 00:25:47.259 --> 00:25:49.980 that's what she said. But I'm guessing she probably 00:25:49.980 --> 00:25:51.880 ran pretty far away because she had to make poops, 00:25:51.900 --> 00:25:54.160 so that's why it couldn't have been him. She's 00:25:54.160 --> 00:25:55.900 not going to want to talk about that. This is 00:25:55.900 --> 00:25:58.500 a quote from Jen. So it's his voice saying our 00:25:58.500 --> 00:26:01.180 thing, but it's like a really monotone voice. 00:26:01.359 --> 00:26:03.920 Jen explains in the video. But it was so loud, 00:26:03.980 --> 00:26:07.160 it was directly behind me. In order for me to 00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:09.559 hear my husband, he's over there by the campsite, 00:26:09.559 --> 00:26:12.059 he would have had to yell. After she explained 00:26:12.059 --> 00:26:13.740 the situation to her husband, they decided to 00:26:13.740 --> 00:26:15.579 pack up and leave. And this is the extra creepy 00:26:15.579 --> 00:26:18.559 part. Jen said in the video that they packed 00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:20.539 up their gear to leave and then heard something 00:26:20.539 --> 00:26:23.279 in the woods. surrounding them, like kind of 00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:26.519 circling around them. Yeah. And there certainly 00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:29.200 wasn't an animal, Jen says, and when her back 00:26:29.200 --> 00:26:31.519 was turned helping the dog into the car, when 00:26:31.519 --> 00:26:33.339 they finally got to the car, she heard something 00:26:33.339 --> 00:26:36.619 or someone run really fast up behind her and 00:26:36.619 --> 00:26:38.599 stop short right before it reached her. When 00:26:38.599 --> 00:26:42.599 she turned around, nothing was there. Crazy, 00:26:43.099 --> 00:26:46.960 right? Yeah, that last part's crazy. Yeah. So 00:26:46.960 --> 00:26:49.500 I'm not normally somebody who just kind of blindly 00:26:49.500 --> 00:26:52.750 believes these stories. But as someone who's 00:26:52.750 --> 00:26:57.089 spent a lot of time in these woods, not necessarily 00:26:57.089 --> 00:27:00.650 in the Appalachia region, I've only camped there 00:27:00.650 --> 00:27:03.150 a few times, but just spent time in the Appalachian 00:27:03.150 --> 00:27:06.569 Range, it's not the weirdest story I've ever 00:27:06.569 --> 00:27:09.230 heard from someone who's gone camping. No, it 00:27:09.230 --> 00:27:12.630 isn't. I've also spent a lot of time up there. 00:27:12.670 --> 00:27:15.049 I think the most time I spent was a day and a 00:27:15.049 --> 00:27:17.650 half by myself without seeing anybody. in the 00:27:17.650 --> 00:27:19.390 middle of the woods, and you do hear things. 00:27:19.769 --> 00:27:21.509 Yeah, yeah, you absolutely do. Because it's so 00:27:21.509 --> 00:27:24.109 quiet, because, you know, there's no, like, sounds 00:27:24.109 --> 00:27:27.109 of civilization. I think your brain just can't 00:27:27.109 --> 00:27:30.210 process, you know, the sound of nature. Right. 00:27:30.289 --> 00:27:32.089 And so you're kind of thrown off, and you start 00:27:32.089 --> 00:27:33.829 to hear things, like water will sound different, 00:27:33.910 --> 00:27:36.549 bugs will sound louder. Right. That kind of stuff, 00:27:36.690 --> 00:27:40.950 so. And sometimes when you hear water, you think 00:27:40.950 --> 00:27:43.049 it's, like, right there, and it turns out that 00:27:43.049 --> 00:27:45.710 it's much further out. Yep. Especially water, 00:27:46.009 --> 00:27:47.970 it could sound like voices. It could sound like 00:27:47.970 --> 00:27:49.970 animals, depending on what it's hitting, like 00:27:49.970 --> 00:27:52.869 if it's a waterfall. Right. Yeah, even like an 00:27:52.869 --> 00:27:54.430 animal, like a squirrel walking in the leaves 00:27:54.430 --> 00:27:57.009 of the woods. And when you're talking to people 00:27:57.009 --> 00:28:00.170 who are with you, even that can be distorted 00:28:00.170 --> 00:28:03.089 a little bit. The sound is really muffled. You 00:28:03.089 --> 00:28:07.730 hear all kinds of stuff. So that part doesn't 00:28:07.730 --> 00:28:10.890 surprise me too much. However, I've also talked 00:28:10.890 --> 00:28:13.880 to a lot of very... Uh, no -nonsense people, 00:28:14.059 --> 00:28:16.920 people who don't bullshit. You know, people who 00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:18.779 don't, who've never told me a ghost story before. 00:28:19.500 --> 00:28:22.779 Even those people have told me similar type stories 00:28:22.779 --> 00:28:26.220 being in the woods. Hearing just really strange 00:28:26.220 --> 00:28:28.880 things that nobody hears when they're out in 00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:31.339 the woods. I find these mimic stories to be a 00:28:31.339 --> 00:28:33.000 little bit more compelling. But now we're going 00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:34.759 to talk about some stuff that I think is just 00:28:34.759 --> 00:28:37.599 outright bullshit. So get ready. There is a lot 00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:40.900 of these fucking videos on Instagram. We've got 00:28:40.900 --> 00:28:44.119 reels and reels of people of this, particularly 00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:46.420 this one woman. I'm not going to say her name 00:28:46.420 --> 00:28:48.019 because I don't want to shutter her account because 00:28:48.019 --> 00:28:51.920 she's an asshole. Because she says some of the 00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:53.400 dumbest shit I've ever heard in my life. And 00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:56.200 she has these videos, which would be creepy if 00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:59.599 I didn't know this area kind of well. She's got 00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:02.380 people who are in like houses or in like apartments. 00:29:02.819 --> 00:29:05.160 And she calls it Appalachia. And like, yeah, 00:29:05.240 --> 00:29:07.599 OK, people do live out in these places. But like. 00:29:07.930 --> 00:29:09.809 It's the woods that are creepy. It's not your 00:29:09.809 --> 00:29:12.630 house, you fucking weirdos. Well, I don't know, 00:29:12.630 --> 00:29:16.049 but yeah. It depends on the house. She has this 00:29:16.049 --> 00:29:19.910 one video where it's a dog that comes up to the 00:29:19.910 --> 00:29:23.049 window on their house and is scratching on the 00:29:23.049 --> 00:29:27.410 window. Not a window, a glass door. And the dog's 00:29:27.410 --> 00:29:29.369 scratching on the glass door, and they're like, 00:29:29.470 --> 00:29:31.970 but my dog is in the house. And it's like, well, 00:29:31.970 --> 00:29:33.750 okay, dummy, maybe you left a fucking window 00:29:33.750 --> 00:29:37.220 open. If that looks like your dog... and your 00:29:37.220 --> 00:29:39.880 dog is not sitting in the camera shot like prove 00:29:39.880 --> 00:29:42.119 to me that that's not your dog trying to break 00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:44.400 into the house like maybe it's your neighbor's 00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:46.859 dog and you're just a dumb bastard but some of 00:29:46.859 --> 00:29:49.019 the other videos that i so i talked about that 00:29:49.019 --> 00:29:50.799 video a little bit on my last episode but what 00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:53.039 i didn't talk about were the videos they have 00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:55.740 of people knocking on doors and saying creepy 00:29:55.740 --> 00:29:59.279 shit and so it's it's supposed to be like the 00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:03.230 voice of a loved one or the voice of a friend, 00:30:03.390 --> 00:30:05.109 because that's what these mimics supposedly do 00:30:05.109 --> 00:30:07.289 is they, you know, obviously mimic people in 00:30:07.289 --> 00:30:09.869 your life. That's why this story kind of rung 00:30:09.869 --> 00:30:12.569 out to me, the first story I talked about, because 00:30:12.569 --> 00:30:15.490 that's exactly what mimics are supposed to do. 00:30:15.569 --> 00:30:17.069 We don't know what they are, we don't know what 00:30:17.069 --> 00:30:19.349 they do, but we do know that, you know, one of 00:30:19.349 --> 00:30:21.309 the ways they kind of get you is by mimicking 00:30:21.309 --> 00:30:23.430 the voice of a loved one. But these videos are 00:30:23.430 --> 00:30:25.049 super creepy because, you know, it's someone 00:30:25.049 --> 00:30:26.890 kind of like, I don't want to say aggressively 00:30:26.890 --> 00:30:30.140 knocking, but rapidly knocking on the door. If 00:30:30.140 --> 00:30:31.359 you know what I mean, like they're not pounding 00:30:31.359 --> 00:30:33.099 on it, but they're knocking really fast. And 00:30:33.099 --> 00:30:35.640 then they're just saying kind of the same thing 00:30:35.640 --> 00:30:37.480 over and over again. Like, you know, come on, 00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:39.259 Beth, it's me. Open the door or something like 00:30:39.259 --> 00:30:41.240 that. But the problem that I'm having with these 00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:43.539 videos that I'm watching on Instagram is like, 00:30:43.619 --> 00:30:46.099 why are you posting this video on Instagram and 00:30:46.099 --> 00:30:49.259 not say giving it to the police? Like we you 00:30:49.259 --> 00:30:52.160 might that might be, you know, a mimic or it 00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:54.970 could be like your messed up neighbor. That's 00:30:54.970 --> 00:30:56.470 the first thing I would think is somebody trying 00:30:56.470 --> 00:30:59.390 to trespass. It's somebody who's on drugs who 00:30:59.390 --> 00:31:01.450 wants to come in and rob me. And that's scary. 00:31:01.950 --> 00:31:04.950 That's still fucking scary. But to say shotgun 00:31:04.950 --> 00:31:06.569 and you go up to the door, you don't grab your 00:31:06.569 --> 00:31:08.650 cell phone and take a freaking video. That's 00:31:08.650 --> 00:31:11.150 what I would do. Exactly. Or you take that video 00:31:11.150 --> 00:31:13.329 and then you call the police so that you have 00:31:13.329 --> 00:31:16.289 evidence when the police get there. Right. I 00:31:16.289 --> 00:31:18.329 don't know. These videos annoy the shit out of 00:31:18.329 --> 00:31:21.170 me. And this woman always says, don't go into 00:31:21.170 --> 00:31:24.009 Appalachia at night by yourself. And I'm like, 00:31:24.089 --> 00:31:27.910 fuck you. I have lived here my whole life. I 00:31:27.910 --> 00:31:30.109 have never been scared to go into the woods at 00:31:30.109 --> 00:31:32.410 night. In fact, knowing all the creepy shit that 00:31:32.410 --> 00:31:34.289 I know about the woods that I cannot explain, 00:31:34.549 --> 00:31:36.309 I would still rather go into the woods at night 00:31:36.309 --> 00:31:39.710 than say Boston at night. It's true. Yeah. Yeah. 00:31:40.009 --> 00:31:42.289 Honestly. Or Springfield, Massachusetts at night. 00:31:42.349 --> 00:31:44.089 You know, there's no other people in there except 00:31:44.089 --> 00:31:45.970 other crazy people who want to be in the woods. 00:31:46.049 --> 00:31:49.089 And they're just like you. Yeah. Like having 00:31:49.089 --> 00:31:52.019 no people around. It's so rare for there to be 00:31:52.019 --> 00:31:54.900 actual criminals in the woods committing crimes 00:31:54.900 --> 00:31:58.140 like they would be in like like the Blue Hills 00:31:58.140 --> 00:32:01.019 area of Massachusetts where, you know, you can 00:32:01.019 --> 00:32:03.680 walk for a mile in any direction and hit civilization. 00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:06.759 Exactly. But nobody's going to the fucking Alpine 00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:09.740 zone of the White Mountains to commit a crime. 00:32:10.119 --> 00:32:13.720 No, it's just it's just a bunch of hippies that 00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:17.019 are high on weed enjoying the stars. Be like, 00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:19.849 dude, look at this. So great. Also, people on 00:32:19.849 --> 00:32:22.190 the Appalachian Trail, if they happen to come 00:32:22.190 --> 00:32:25.109 across someone being like hurt, I would be much 00:32:25.109 --> 00:32:27.309 more worried for the criminal at that point because 00:32:27.309 --> 00:32:32.170 no one protects their own like hikers. Exactly. 00:32:32.450 --> 00:32:34.789 So don't be afraid of going hiking at night. 00:32:34.849 --> 00:32:37.450 Just be smart about it. If you're good at hiking 00:32:37.450 --> 00:32:41.329 and you have experience, you're fine. Don't listen 00:32:41.329 --> 00:32:42.730 to people who say, don't go in there. There might 00:32:42.730 --> 00:32:46.579 be a mimic. The mimic's probably just high. I 00:32:46.579 --> 00:32:49.819 think I've only actually been scared of hiking 00:32:49.819 --> 00:32:54.160 at night once. And it was this past year. And 00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:57.599 it was out in Arizona. Because I saw two tarantulas. 00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:00.119 Oh, yeah. No, that's scary as fuck. No, thank 00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:02.099 you. And I was like, oh. I'm like, what is that? 00:33:02.180 --> 00:33:04.319 And I got really close, like this close. I'm 00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:07.539 like, holy fuck. I didn't mean to swear, but 00:33:07.539 --> 00:33:10.559 yeah. You can swear all you want. I swear all 00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:12.410 the time. Two tarantulas. And I walked maybe 00:33:12.410 --> 00:33:13.710 about a half mile. I'm like, I'm going to go 00:33:13.710 --> 00:33:17.430 back now. Yeah, I'd be fucking terrified of the 00:33:17.430 --> 00:33:20.910 bugs out hiking in the west. Hiking out here, 00:33:21.089 --> 00:33:23.529 yeah, we got like brown recluse. They're pretty 00:33:23.529 --> 00:33:25.690 scary, but they don't want anything to do with 00:33:25.690 --> 00:33:28.930 you. They're going to hide from you. We got rattlesnakes. 00:33:29.609 --> 00:33:32.430 Yeah, rattlesnakes. I was like, I think these 00:33:32.430 --> 00:33:35.529 belong in Petco in the cage. Yeah, and fisher 00:33:35.529 --> 00:33:38.130 cats are just little guys. They sound scary, 00:33:38.309 --> 00:33:39.450 but they don't want anything to do with you. 00:33:39.819 --> 00:33:41.720 i don't really think that we have any animals 00:33:41.720 --> 00:33:44.380 that you necessarily need to be afraid of unless 00:33:44.380 --> 00:33:46.839 they're rabid in that case yeah yeah of course 00:33:46.839 --> 00:33:49.559 or you're a toddler in which case you want to 00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:52.039 avoid coyotes and like turkey yeah if they can 00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:54.839 pick you up then yeah you should be scared so 00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:57.720 anyway so i know what like i've debunked or not 00:33:57.720 --> 00:33:59.660 debunked but i know that i've like cast a lot 00:33:59.660 --> 00:34:02.220 of shade on mimics this is the one thing that 00:34:02.220 --> 00:34:05.869 like kind of rings true for me I'm not necessarily 00:34:05.869 --> 00:34:08.630 somebody who would completely dispel somebody 00:34:08.630 --> 00:34:10.289 saying they encountered a mimic in the woods 00:34:10.289 --> 00:34:12.269 because I've heard enough stories from people 00:34:12.269 --> 00:34:14.789 who hike in these mountains all the time that 00:34:14.789 --> 00:34:16.849 they've either experienced like what you said, 00:34:16.869 --> 00:34:20.329 Laura, like some kind of weird just sound anomaly 00:34:20.329 --> 00:34:23.809 or something else maybe. What do you think, Maynard? 00:34:24.750 --> 00:34:28.010 I'm agreeing with you with kind of along the 00:34:28.010 --> 00:34:31.690 lines of what you said. I think, you know, it's 00:34:31.690 --> 00:34:34.690 happened enough where... If I went into the woods, 00:34:34.809 --> 00:34:37.809 I might not be surprised if it happened, and 00:34:37.809 --> 00:34:40.690 I wouldn't have any explanation for it. But at 00:34:40.690 --> 00:34:44.010 the same time, I also wouldn't be immediately 00:34:44.010 --> 00:34:47.630 terrified. Could it also be something where, 00:34:47.730 --> 00:34:51.449 because of the environment that you're in, being 00:34:51.449 --> 00:34:56.010 so isolated and not having sound around you and 00:34:56.010 --> 00:34:58.150 everything, where it's something that you're... 00:34:58.349 --> 00:35:00.710 brain does to you? Well, that's what Laura was 00:35:00.710 --> 00:35:02.670 saying. Oh, of course, yeah. I've experienced 00:35:02.670 --> 00:35:07.630 that. I just mean in general, like, kind of like 00:35:07.630 --> 00:35:09.789 sensory deprivation, like that sort of stuff. 00:35:09.789 --> 00:35:11.030 That's exactly what it is. Absolutely, yeah. 00:35:11.309 --> 00:35:15.050 And I have experienced that. I've gone on hikes 00:35:15.050 --> 00:35:17.730 where I haven't... Yeah. I've gone on hikes where 00:35:17.730 --> 00:35:21.710 I haven't seen anybody. And so you... It's not 00:35:21.710 --> 00:35:24.329 like a full -blown hallucination, but you certainly 00:35:24.329 --> 00:35:26.550 hear things that you realize couldn't possibly 00:35:26.550 --> 00:35:29.190 be there. But also the echoes are weird because 00:35:29.190 --> 00:35:32.210 just the shape of the mountains are weird. Yeah, 00:35:32.230 --> 00:35:33.989 I mean, there's echoes, but there's also, you 00:35:33.989 --> 00:35:36.849 know, you're so used to the static and the energy 00:35:36.849 --> 00:35:38.869 of, like, civilization. And when you're out there, 00:35:38.949 --> 00:35:41.750 it's not there. And when it's really quiet, like, 00:35:41.769 --> 00:35:43.210 you get that buzz in your ears. You know when 00:35:43.210 --> 00:35:45.289 it's really quiet? Yeah. Your ears kind of sort 00:35:45.289 --> 00:35:47.949 of make that sound, that vibration. It's like 00:35:47.949 --> 00:35:50.510 you even get that. So it's just, who knows what 00:35:50.510 --> 00:35:52.300 you hear out there. And there's a lot of critters. 00:35:52.300 --> 00:35:54.039 There's a lot of critters out there, too. Oh, 00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:55.179 absolutely. Black bears and things like that. 00:35:55.179 --> 00:35:56.739 And there's a lot of animals that make weird 00:35:56.739 --> 00:35:59.400 noises. Yeah, so for that one story where she 00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:03.519 heard something running up behind her, those 00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:05.099 animals, like when you're out in the woods, they 00:36:05.099 --> 00:36:06.599 actually, they're like, oh, look, there's a trail. 00:36:06.739 --> 00:36:08.639 It's not just for people. Yeah. The animals are 00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:10.199 like, oh, look, I don't have to go through all 00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:12.440 the brush. I can just walk down this trail. Yeah, 00:36:12.500 --> 00:36:13.159 I've absolutely experienced that, too. People 00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:15.340 see moose do that all the time. Up in the White 00:36:15.340 --> 00:36:17.360 Mountains, it's moose. There's stories about 00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:18.420 it all the time. Like, oh, there's a moose behind 00:36:18.420 --> 00:36:20.800 me. And people would have to stay off the trail 00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:23.519 for half an hour until the moose decided to move 00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:25.860 on. And with all the leaf litter on the ground, 00:36:25.940 --> 00:36:29.039 because we don't really allow forest fires in... 00:36:29.039 --> 00:36:32.139 I don't mean to say that people are allowing 00:36:32.139 --> 00:36:35.079 forest fires, but as human beings, we do a lot 00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:38.440 to avoid forest fires. So leaf litter tends to 00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:40.980 collect a lot more in our forests than they did, 00:36:41.079 --> 00:36:45.039 let's say, 200 years ago. So... When you hear 00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:47.000 an animal, a small animal coming towards you, 00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:48.579 it doesn't sound like a small animal because 00:36:48.579 --> 00:36:50.179 it's kicking up a shitload of leaves. Oh, squirrels 00:36:50.179 --> 00:36:52.880 are so loud. A squirrel. Yes. They are loud out 00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:54.860 there. But then you'll also hear things like 00:36:54.860 --> 00:36:56.900 a beaver slapping its tail on the water. Like, 00:36:56.920 --> 00:36:59.420 that's fucking loud. Mm -hmm. Because there's 00:36:59.420 --> 00:37:02.300 nothing else to drown out the noise. And woodpeckers 00:37:02.300 --> 00:37:04.840 and, yeah, everything. Oh, yeah, the woodpeckers 00:37:04.840 --> 00:37:09.489 too. Holy shit. So, but... But regardless, I've 00:37:09.489 --> 00:37:11.409 had enough experiences in the woods where I know 00:37:11.409 --> 00:37:14.289 I couldn't possibly say, no, this has never happened. 00:37:14.349 --> 00:37:16.929 It never will happen. Whatever. Let's face it. 00:37:16.949 --> 00:37:18.190 The Appalachian Mountains are fucking creepy. 00:37:18.349 --> 00:37:21.730 They just are. They're old and creepy. Yep. But 00:37:21.730 --> 00:37:26.690 that's the whole point. That's just grandpa getting 00:37:26.690 --> 00:37:27.289 in his cuffs. That's probably my favorite of 00:37:27.289 --> 00:37:28.469 the evening. I don't know if we're done yet, 00:37:28.489 --> 00:37:30.329 but that's my favorite for the evening is the 00:37:30.329 --> 00:37:32.070 white thing. No, we are done. We are done. We've 00:37:32.070 --> 00:37:37.460 run the gamut of hates. That's so fun. White 00:37:37.460 --> 00:37:41.920 Fang and Mimics. White Fang. I think my personal 00:37:41.920 --> 00:37:44.980 favorite are the Mimics just for the craziness 00:37:44.980 --> 00:37:48.599 of it and the relatability. But White Fang, I 00:37:48.599 --> 00:37:52.000 mean, the idea of Grandpa just going out and 00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:53.579 walking in the woods and everybody just thinking 00:37:53.579 --> 00:37:57.179 it's a fucking monster is amazing to me. Oh, 00:37:57.199 --> 00:37:59.940 it's Grandpa. No, it'd be interesting, like, 00:37:59.980 --> 00:38:02.320 you know, for White Fang, if you had a cocktail 00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:05.079 made out of, like, Make a cocktail recipe called 00:38:05.079 --> 00:38:07.440 the white thing, but start with a white claw. 00:38:07.739 --> 00:38:10.099 And then see what it would be, like white claw 00:38:10.099 --> 00:38:12.659 plus what to make a white thing. A white claw 00:38:12.659 --> 00:38:14.900 with a chilled shot of Sambuca, because chilled 00:38:14.900 --> 00:38:18.360 Sambuca turns that milky white color. Oh, does 00:38:18.360 --> 00:38:22.559 it? Yeah. Interesting. Yeah, I learned that when 00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:24.659 I was bartending. That tastes a little odd. Yeah, 00:38:24.780 --> 00:38:26.699 it would probably taste a little weird, but it's 00:38:26.699 --> 00:38:29.789 worth it. You get your wasted. I don't drink 00:38:29.789 --> 00:38:32.429 Sambuca anymore because of the one time I drank 00:38:32.429 --> 00:38:34.349 too much of it. It's always because of the one 00:38:34.349 --> 00:38:37.309 time with that stuff. Yeah. With a liqueur, there's 00:38:37.309 --> 00:38:39.150 always a one time, and you'll never go back. 00:38:39.369 --> 00:38:43.409 But anyway, that's our story. I love it. I'm 00:38:43.409 --> 00:38:45.469 looking for more stuff. I actually just kind 00:38:45.469 --> 00:38:49.210 of found a couple more things that I'd like to 00:38:49.210 --> 00:38:52.269 talk about, too. So the next time Dave goes on 00:38:52.269 --> 00:38:54.610 vacation, we're going to run wild with Appalachia. 00:38:55.969 --> 00:38:57.789 This is normally the part of the show where we 00:38:57.789 --> 00:38:59.530 say, does anybody have anything they'd like to 00:38:59.530 --> 00:39:03.610 promote? So, anything you guys got? Look, I think 00:39:03.610 --> 00:39:05.010 the three of us are going to get back together 00:39:05.010 --> 00:39:08.110 very soon for some Citizen's Guide to the Supernormal 00:39:08.110 --> 00:39:10.349 episodes. I have already started researching, 00:39:10.510 --> 00:39:12.989 so yes, yes we are. Oh, good. Yes, I know you 00:39:12.989 --> 00:39:16.030 said you had some wonderful ideas, so... I do. 00:39:16.150 --> 00:39:19.030 We're going to cover some crazy government conspiracies. 00:39:19.690 --> 00:39:22.289 Boy, oh boy. Like old school. Like old ones, 00:39:22.349 --> 00:39:24.489 right? Not now. No, like we're going to talk 00:39:24.489 --> 00:39:26.329 about 1960s stuff. We're going to talk about 00:39:26.329 --> 00:39:29.630 fun, quaint conspiracies. Okay, yeah. Not things 00:39:29.630 --> 00:39:32.050 that are actually happening now that the government 00:39:32.050 --> 00:39:33.389 is lying about. Yeah, because I get enough of 00:39:33.389 --> 00:39:34.730 that in my day -to -day, so I'd like to have 00:39:34.730 --> 00:39:37.730 a change of pace. Let's go back in time. No, 00:39:37.730 --> 00:39:39.949 we're going to go back to the wet and wild 50s, 00:39:39.969 --> 00:39:42.809 60s, and 70s to talk about... Oh, so much stuff 00:39:42.809 --> 00:39:44.849 back then. I don't want to give it away. No, 00:39:44.849 --> 00:39:46.429 don't. You'll just have to listen, but I'm very 00:39:46.429 --> 00:39:48.170 excited about what we've got coming up. Oh, cool. 00:39:49.019 --> 00:39:51.639 All right. Yeah, the Citizen's Guide to the Supernormal. 00:39:51.659 --> 00:39:52.940 Go check us out. Yeah, we have a lot of fun. 00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:56.039 I can't wait. And now I'd be remiss if I didn't 00:39:56.039 --> 00:39:58.980 talk about my sponsor, Narragansett. You beautiful 00:39:58.980 --> 00:40:01.719 bastards. Yes. I couldn't wait anymore. I had 00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:04.280 to break out the Del Shandy from Narragansett. 00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:07.360 Oh, wow. So goddamn good. And weirdly enough, 00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:09.380 you know how a lot of shandies kind of skimp 00:40:09.380 --> 00:40:13.719 on the alcohol content? Yeah. This is 4 .7, which 00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:15.679 is pretty good for a shandy. Normally a shandy 00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:19.460 is between like 3 .5 and like 4. Oh, okay. Yeah, 00:40:19.500 --> 00:40:21.400 they go legit half and half, but that one's... 00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:24.239 Yeah, it tastes really good. It's really clean. 00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:28.039 You can't go wrong with Dells. Yeah. But it's 00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:30.619 Narragansett. Yeah, absolutely. That's kind of 00:40:30.619 --> 00:40:32.360 interesting. That's a nice partnership. I like 00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:35.380 that. Yeah, I love them. I had the Music City 00:40:35.380 --> 00:40:37.159 one recently. Is that the Music City? That's 00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:39.960 what it was, the IPA. Oh, yeah, yeah. Music City, 00:40:39.960 --> 00:40:42.380 really good. Kind of hard to find up in Mass, 00:40:42.500 --> 00:40:44.139 but definitely all over the place in Rhode Island. 00:40:44.690 --> 00:40:46.889 That's where we were. Yeah, that makes sense. 00:40:46.929 --> 00:40:47.929 That's where we were. We're in Rhode Island. 00:40:48.150 --> 00:40:51.630 Yeah. Yeah, so if you got Narragansett near you, 00:40:51.690 --> 00:40:53.550 you should grab it. It's a good domestic. I love 00:40:53.550 --> 00:41:00.670 it. Also, Killed by a Yeti. Wow. Yeah. That's 00:41:00.670 --> 00:41:02.070 the band, right? That's the band. They're the 00:41:02.070 --> 00:41:06.389 ones who did our soundtrack. I'm sorry, not our 00:41:06.389 --> 00:41:08.090 soundtrack, our theme song, our opening theme 00:41:08.090 --> 00:41:10.769 song. Oh, that's awesome. And that's a great 00:41:10.769 --> 00:41:14.090 shirt. Can you show it again? Yeah. Oh, that's 00:41:14.090 --> 00:41:16.150 a cool graphic. I love that. Yeah, it's really 00:41:16.150 --> 00:41:17.969 cool. They've got some really cool shirts here. 00:41:18.030 --> 00:41:19.929 Check out their Instagram, Killed by a Yeti. 00:41:20.269 --> 00:41:23.750 And then check out our Instagram at Cryptid Cocktail 00:41:23.750 --> 00:41:26.030 Party. Find us. There's a link there that has 00:41:26.030 --> 00:41:30.590 all of our socials and everything. And I think 00:41:30.590 --> 00:41:33.289 that's all I got. So this is the other part of 00:41:33.289 --> 00:41:36.309 the show where normally I would say how much 00:41:36.309 --> 00:41:38.210 I love the audience. But if you guys would like 00:41:38.210 --> 00:41:40.230 to, say I love you and goodbye to the audience. 00:41:40.789 --> 00:41:43.739 Goodbye, audience. It was fun to be here, and 00:41:43.739 --> 00:41:46.000 thank you for having us. And I love you. Yes, 00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:47.400 you have to tell the audience you love it. I 00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:50.699 love you so much. Love you guys. Is there a lot 00:41:50.699 --> 00:41:53.679 of them? I love every single one of you. There 00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:54.460 should be a good amount at this point. I don't 00:41:54.460 --> 00:41:55.820 know how many, but I'm sure there's quite a few. 00:41:56.079 --> 00:41:56.679 We're getting there.