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You are now listening to cryptid cocktail party

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Well, what do you guys think of the new intro

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music? It's 100 episodes of Cryptic Cocktail

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Party. We had to do something a little bit different.

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It fucks. I love it. It fucks in hell. It's a

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little aggressive. It sounds like all the bands

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that I played with in high school. I played it

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for my nine -year -old and his pupils immediately

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dilated and he took his shirt off. So I think

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it's a good, I think it's a win. It's broken.

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you broke him yeah he's just ready to fight dude

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that's so cool all right well welcome everyone

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to the 100th episode of cryptic cocktail party

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we got we got a new logo we got a new sound and

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we got some pretty amazing guests today we got

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uh ed and chris from scared all the time podcast

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how you guys doing what's up we're good man how

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are you guys I don't know. I feel indifferent

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about what's going on. Good. It's warm. It's

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warmer on the East Coast. It's like 65 degrees

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and I'm freezing for some reason. I busted out

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the tuxedo t -shirt for this weather. I think

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it's the same weather in LA right now and I'm

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also freezing somehow. I think it's just my office.

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I don't know what it is about my office, but

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for some reason it's like 10 degrees colder than

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the rest of the house. It's probably haunted.

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yeah yeah batteries keep draining in it and shit

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haunted by the guy who froze to death in it uh

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just before you probably so it is like a really

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old row home in philly so i'm assuming there

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was many a death somewhere in this house if not

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Okay. Yeah. At least on the street. Oh, shit.

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I have no idea. A couple of Philly mob hits.

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Yeah. I was thinking more like Civil War type

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shit, but I don't know. Anyways. I've seen Rocky.

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I've seen Adrian wear that big tattered coat.

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I know what it's like over there. I've seen row

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houses, the effects of the cold. All right. So,

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Ed and Chris, for those of listening who don't

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know who you are, if one of you want to take

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this, who are you? Because I don't want to introduce

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you. That's a Chris. Chris does it better. We're...

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We're two guys who started a podcast after you

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could make money at them. We are the hosts of

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Scared All the Time, a podcast about the things

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that scare us. And basically, we take a comedic

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slash historical slash scientific and cultural

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look at... a different fear every episode. Sometimes

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we have guests, sometimes we don't. It's sort

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of like the dollop where I present a bunch of

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information to Ed and then Ed, who has no idea

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what the episode is going to be about until we

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start. It sounds familiar. It's like our show.

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Yeah, it's a it's a it's a. It's a system that

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works. It really is. It's basically what Podcast

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was inventing for. Have you guys covered Aaron

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from Ghost Hunters wife trying to kill him yet?

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No, but I saw that and I wanted to post it on

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our stories on Instagram. But then I was like,

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I feel like we might know people who know them

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and I don't know how serious it was. And I stayed

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away from it. definitely i genuinely didn't think

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it was serious at first and then i immediately

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felt horrible because i've always had a soft

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spot in my heart for aaron yeah because zach

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baggins is so fucking mean to him yeah zach's

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like hey that's on fire and there's spiders in

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there get in that room by yourself yeah well

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sounds like a ghost followed him home yeah we'll

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we'll check in next month possessed his wife

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we have not covered that specific fear yet we

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uh we're getting to the point with with the show

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we haven't we're about to actually so you guys

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have just reached this is your 100th episode

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we yeah next week uh are doing releasing our

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50th episode so okay uh and we're already running

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out of fears so how is that even there's no way

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you can run out of fears there's so many well

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well about fears that you can make a whole hour

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and a half episode out of and not just you know

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people we always ask people what's your biggest

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fear and they say something like well that's

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six minutes thanks yeah it's it's interesting

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as we've been doing it like you know the um the

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some fears it's funny some um common fears like

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heights are actually very hard to write episodes

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about because they're not It's hard to find an

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angle to approach something kind of broad, you

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know, like and like the fear of heights is like

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a cultural thing or the history of heights. Like,

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does it? It's not. Yeah, right. So some of those

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are harder than weirdly. There's more specific

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ones. Like, I guess I'll announce it here. This

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can be. breaking news our 50th episode is about

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chimpanzee attacks our 49th chris because even

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though uh that's a fairly specific fear there's

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a lot that you can that you know there's stories

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about it there's there's history of it there's

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the reason that chimpanzees become violent so

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there's a lot of ways into it that are that are

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really fun And those things are yoked. That scares

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the absolute shit out of me. It should. The episode

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will definitely confirm those fears. We had it.

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we had a comedian on who I love and I was very

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excited that he did it. And it turned out being

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such a bummer of a, he's very funny, but the

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stories are just like, they're so sad. They're

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just tragedies. It was a terror. I was like,

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I'm so sorry. I didn't, uh, cause he, we did

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it. Cause I asked him what his fear was. And

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he said, getting his penis ripped off by a chimpanzee.

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And I was like, Oh, fantastic. Yeah. I was like,

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yeah, I was like, we could do something with

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that for sure. And then, that specifically we

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will talk about your fear of dick ripping off

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it's weird that you got so excited about it i

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well we just saw your eyes light i love it i

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think it's fucking phenomenal well he yeah but

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then it then for me my part of that and in this

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comedian was like Chris is like, why are you

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guys so quiet? It was like, I don't know. You

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just talked about like a family's faces getting

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ripped off. I don't know. There's not like a

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ton of jokes I want to make about people who

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are still alive going through reconstructive

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surgery. It seems weird. But the other exclusive

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I'll give you is it might be our 49th episode.

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Oh, fuck. In terms of when I drop the monkey

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specific. To be fair. this is our 100th episode

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proper. I think we're at like 107 or something

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like that. Maybe 108. Cause we did, we do a lot

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of bonus episodes or something. Oh yeah. We have

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bonuses. But I think this is our 100 proper episode.

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Well, congratulations again. I'm hopefully, hopefully

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you're doing some sort of like a money raising

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thing for this, for your nephew is definitely

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going to go to prison for punching a cop soon.

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So we'd like to give a shout out. If anybody

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can throw a few dimes our way for bail on this

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definite future criminal. Yeah. Max, he's Max.

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Maxie's probably going to go to jail. On the

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plus side, Killed by a Yeti has a new fan. A

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lifelong fan. Is that the name of the band? Yeah,

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Killed by a Yeti. Perfect, right? Fantastic.

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Holy shit. I thought that was what your nephew's

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name was. No, it's my son. It was your son. I

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thought you said it was your nephew. No, it's

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my son. Oh, in that case, no. Don't raise any

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money for anyone that you did this. It's not

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on you. It's my fault. It is my fault. He got

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my ADHD, so. I mean, I did it to myself. Jesus.

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Well, we should start this. The ADHD is showing.

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I'm now regretting not naming my son killed by

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a Yeti. It's not too late. I'm going to have

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to go back and change the birth certificate.

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He hasn't applied for anything. Just do it now.

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That's true. All right. You guys ready? I should

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also say. Yeah, I'm ready to dive in, but I did

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just want to shout out, since people can't see

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your outfits, Sarge has an incredible leopard

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print tux on to celebrate their 100th episode.

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Tux and leopard print bow tie topped off with

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the Narragansett Lager cap accessory. You've

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got to represent the family. Yeah, it's looking

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sick as hell. And then Dave's got a Wonder Years

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shirt on, which we've probably talked about definitely

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in a live show, maybe on one of our episodes.

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One of my favorite bands of all time. Oh, 10

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out of 10. Easily one of the best bands. Before

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I knew that was a band, I was like, wow, Dave's

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a huge fan of Fred Savage. I do own multiple

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Wonder Years shirts and I've worn them all on

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the show. Yeah, I love them. I have a hoodie

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that's done in the style of a Pennsylvania license

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plate that I bought like 10 or 15 years ago and

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I wear all the time. And people are like, I didn't

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know the show had anything to do with Pennsylvania.

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And I'm like, listen. The Wonder Years is one

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of those bands that I found at a time in my life

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where like I really needed them and they made

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me feel a lot of things that I did not know I

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was going to feel. And so now it's like they're

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just ingrained in me. All right. But let's start.

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Yeah. Let's start. Focus up, guys. All right.

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Going off the rails. We're 10 minutes in. People

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are listening by now. All right. So today, gentlemen,

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we're going to be diving into a topic that. Throughout

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the course of the four of us doing research,

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well, I guess the two of us doing research for

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our episodes and the other two listening to us.

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Wait a minute. I have done a little research

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here and there from time to time. But we're going

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to be covering something that we've come across

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probably countless times in our research, and

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that is CIA psyops. Oh, yeah, sure. The term

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psyop is something that the four of us have come

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across in our research for episodes. I mean,

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specifically, Chris and Sarge, you guys both

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did episodes for your... our respective shows

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on gang stalking which was some people believe

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is a giant psyop oh yeah but for those who may

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not be completely familiar with what a psyop

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is or what some of the tactics may be here's

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like a quick crash course for everyone on what

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a psyop is at its core it's basically just psychological

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warfare it's about controlling perception pretty

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much if you can convince someone that they're

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already doomed they might surrender before a

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battle even starts or if you can make them believe

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they're like their own allies are working against

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them they might turn on each other it's basically

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psyops work on fear doubt and belief as weapons

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and they're just as effective as like full -on

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like war i guess you would say that's why ed

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hardy hats were so popular And a war attack on

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the center. They certainly made me want to kill

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myself. So they were. So some examples of the

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more common types of psyops are disinformation

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or misinformation. Those are campaigns run by

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governments. We pretty much saw it with like

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Russia and like social media during all of the

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elections. Still seeing it. Yeah. This is a leaflet

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drops as another one. Usually they're used to

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like encourage surrender or spread rumors of

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defeat. And then we got Alex Jones's favorite

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type of PSYOP, which is the false flag operation.

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Now, this is where a government will stage an

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attack or an event and make everyone else believe

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it was carried out by someone else. Fun fact.

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I learned this is that the term comes from pirates

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who would fly the flag of like a friendly nation.

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And then when they got close to the ships that

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they were about to board, they would hoist the

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Jolly Roger. I thought that was just Admiral

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Nelson used to do that. I don't know who that

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is. He's a famous British guy. That's it? That's

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all we got? We spent about five minutes paying

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attention in history class one time, and that's

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what I got. He pretended to be the French. So

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wait, he did this false flag thing as well? Or

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he just pretended to be a German? So he would

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put up a false flag on his ship. Gotcha. And

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then... The Spanish would be like, oh, hey, it's

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a friend. Oh, no. Other way around. He would

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put up a fake Spanish flag on his ship and the

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French would be like, oh, hey, it's a buddy.

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And then he would attack. I see. Yeah. Jokes

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on you. That's what he would say. Yeah. Sorry.

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Sorry. I hijacked that. That was the end of that

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sentence. Now. As far as the CIA goes, most people

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think of them as like super secret spies with

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super secret documents and they hide them in

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fake scrotums, which is a real thing that I learned.

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And they look awful, by the way. And I hate them.

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They didn't. I feel like if you get to the point

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where people are observing the scrotum, you probably

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get fucked anyway. Yeah, you're in trouble. You're

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like if you're at the point where like everything's

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exposed. Well, maybe if you're on like a like

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a like a beach in Brazil, you know. And you need

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to fill out your bathing suit, but you don't

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have any pockets, right? Sure. And you have the

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fake scrotum, and you put stuff in there. And

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then everybody's like, this guy has huge balls.

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Or just horribly deformed 1970s fucking makeup

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artist balls. Why are your testicles shaped like

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a handgun? Dude, have you seen these, the fake

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scrotum? So I guess I should start. I don't want

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to. It's probably not a good idea for me to look

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at that. I guess I should say this episode stemmed

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from two different sources. So I, for some reason

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lately, have been watching a lot of, you know

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how your dads get really obsessed into World

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War II? I, for some reason, have been watching

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a lot of CIA like psyops stuff on Netflix. There's

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like two new shows and I've been obsessed with

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them. So this is does anyone else think it's

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weird that he segued from fake scrotum to your

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dad's obsessions? No, that's I think that's the

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natural progression. Yeah. My dad was a big fan

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of Admiral Nelson, actually. You saw this on

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Netflix. You were watching a CIA documentary

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on Netflix, probably a psyop, and they showed

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you the fake scrotum. I also saw this fake scrotum

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recently. Now I know why it's making the rounds.

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That's what most people think about the CIA.

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It's just a bunch of secret little clandestine

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things, but what they don't know... is that the

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agency has spent an insane amount of time and

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resources just straight up terrifying people

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in ways that feel more like an A24 horror film

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than any real sanctioned military tactics. Some

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famous examples of the CIA's greatest hits in

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psyops include Operation Wandering Soul. Now

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this took place during the Vietnam War. The U

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.S. military blasted eerie audio recordings of

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ghostly voices and spooky sound effects known

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as ghost tape number 10 and they would blast

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it into the jungle at night from helicopters

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and giant speakers what it was is they were convincing

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the more superstitious of the Viet Cong soldiers

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that their fallen comrades were warning them

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from beyond the grave with eerie voices saying

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quote unquote go home before it's too late and

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even using names of fallen soldiers in the recordings

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to even like to hype up the fear And this tactic

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actually works surprisingly well. In some cases,

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entire units would flee their posts in full on

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absolute terror, allowing the U .S. to come in

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and regain control of the area. Sure. Were the

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Viet Cong like seven year old children? Towards

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the end, for sure. I can't fathom how that would

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work. No, I think it works. I worked in Ghana

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in 2012 and there was a lot of still a lot of

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superstition there. And I'm talking like in Accra,

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like the main city, not out in the jungle or

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something. And and they I remember them people,

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young people being like, oh, my grandpa got sick

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and my aunt thinks it was like a witch doctor,

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but it was pneumonia. Yeah. OK. I mean, a lot

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of countries to even to this day, like they're

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superstitious and folklore like are deep seated,

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like belief systems that are part of the culture.

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as a whole like so for this to work and i actually

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believe it did now another i guess example of

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this is probably my favorite it's called the

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black magic psyop so in latin america The CIA

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used local beliefs like in curses and witchcraft

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to make rebels think that they were being hexed.

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In some cases, the CIA even hired actors to play

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shamans who would then publicly curse communist

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fighters on the streets to make them too fearful

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to continue the fight. Damn. Oh, no, it's just

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Italian guys in brownface, too. So like every

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John Wayne movie. Yeah. Then, of course, you

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have the classic UFO disinformation. During the

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Cold War, the CIA actually encouraged UFO sightings

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to fuck with the Soviets, but also to distract

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the public from spy plane operations. Not only

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did it help fuel the 1950s UFO craze, it also

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at the same time helped cover up aircraft tests

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for things like the U -2 spy plane. This isn't

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even close to all the times the CIA has used

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some sort of paranormal or superstition element

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in their spy ops like the list goes on so fellas

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today i thought it would be fun to talk about

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one of the more brutal horror movie worthy psyops

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the caa has ever pulled off and that is the time

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that they faked a vampire attack to scare off

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communist rebels in the philippines so i'm just

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happy to hear they're doing it not domestically

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for once yeah that's great so this is This episode

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is going to be the story of the CIA and the Oswong

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PSYOP. Are any of you guys even familiar with

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this at all? Or what an Oswong is? I'm familiar

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with Oswong. I don't know that I ever knew that

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there was a PSYOP based around it. But yes, I'm

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familiar with the legend of the Oswong. I thought

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you said Oslong. So I don't know shit. The CIA

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and Oswong is a very different story. Yeah, it's

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a different PSYOP. I'm also not familiar, but

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I did just look up the scrotum and it appears

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they used to put a camera in there. Sarge, I

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did too. And are you looking at the picture where

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the scrotum is out of focus in the background?

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Yes. Yeah. There's a lot of hair. There's a lot

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of hair. Even out of focus. It looks like a Muppet

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whose eyes fell off. Am I the only one who came

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to participate? I like that they put some white

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hairs on it. So I was an older gentleman. Now

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I feel like I identify with it a little bit.

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Well, I'm glad they did it just for you. That's

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what AI does now. Each person's going to get

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a little different version so they feel a bit

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more like it's specifically geared towards them.

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I have never felt more of an emotional connection

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to a scrotal. This might just be the beginning

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for you, pal. Moving on. So before we get into

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how the CIA weaponized this absolute fucking

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nightmare of a legend, let's talk about what

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an Aswang is. And Oswong isn't just one thing.

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It's kind of like a blanket term for various

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evil creatures in Filipino folklore. Usually

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they always have some sort of shape -shifting

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monster quality that blends elements of vampires,

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ghouls, and werewolves, depending on the region.

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You got the vampiric Oswong that drinks blood

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like traditional vampires, often preying on pregnant

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women and newborns. And then you got the Monon

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and Gaul, wonderfully classified as a viscera

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sucker. Their whole deal is that they detach

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their bottom half from their lower half and then

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sprout like leathery bat wings. And then they

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fly around with their entrails just flopping

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all around. Ew. Why? Who comes up with this shit?

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I don't know. But then they end up searching

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for a victim, which also happens to be pregnant

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women. And they have this weird tongue thing

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that if you have a crack in your door or something

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like that, it... resident evil twos i'm just

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imagining slithers through and then it goes up

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until you know and then they suck out the newborn

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it's all fucked up uh if you want to learn more

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about that we actually did a whole episode on

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the mononogal and the uh sarge wasn't on it my

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buddy nick was and he made some very visceral

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reactions to everything i told him about it because

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it is very disgusting well i have a quick question

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so they split in half and they sprout does the

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bottom half also sprout wings is there just like

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legs zipping around so the bottom in the sky

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so the bottom the bottom half turns into the

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fresno no no so so bottom half they'll they'll

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hide it in brush or something like that keep

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it you just gotta leave it you gotta just hide

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it somewhere well because during the day they

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have to reconnect and if they can't so you don't

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want to you don't want to risk it getting going

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up into a ceiling fan getting all fucked up and

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now you're just entrails at your fucking 7 -eleven

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job so the bottom half they have to keep hidden

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or else before daybreak if they don't reconnect

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they'll die so the way you combat that is if

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you come across a pair of decapitated legs Basically,

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you pour salt on it and then they can't reconnect.

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There's a whole thing about how this might have

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been a serial killer in the Philippines and then

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they made it into this story. It's a whole thing.

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I mean, it does sound like a creature that steals

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babies from pregnant women and leaves half a

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person behind does certainly sound sort of like

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somebody up to no good. It's not great. How many

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crime scenes do you think have been wildly compromised

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by some guy with some salt? i found some legs

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i just poured some salt on it just in case yeah

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yeah right the serial killers out there spreading

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information he's like you know if you see uh

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evidence of this creature if you just pour some

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decomposition uh powder all over it that would

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be cover the whole thing with lime yeah yeah

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throw it in a bucket bury it perhaps dispose

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of it in any way possible uh super helpful for

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the monster you'll stop the demon immediately

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yeah you gotta wipe the fingerprints off of these

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if you can it's the only way to keep it from

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following you home it's also it could be like

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a dowry thing too it's like i don't care how

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many sets of legs you leave my daughter's not

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available all right and then uh then The other

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type of Oswong you got is you got the corpse

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stealers. So some Oswongs are believed to dig

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up graves and eat the corpses. They don't eat

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live anything like that. And then lastly, we

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got shapeshifters. Pretty self -explanatory.

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Human by day, nightmare demon, monster by night.

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Now, legends of the Oswong say that if you hear

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a faint tick, tick, tick sound, that means the

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Oswong is near. The quieter it gets, the closer

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it actually is, which is a sign up in and of

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itself. And I fucking hate it. So I like that,

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though. That's good. Yeah, it's terrifying. Now,

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Filipinos take this legend very seriously, especially

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in the more rural areas of the country where

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belief in these creatures remain strong, like

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to this day. As for the origins of the Aswang

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legends, it's likely stem from like Spanish colonial

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era fears mixed with indigenous animist traditions,

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serving as both like a cautionary tale and also

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like a supernatural explanation for mysterious

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deaths. And it's this deep rooted belief in the

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Oswald that gave the CIA the perfect weapon.

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OK, so now on to the main event. It's the 1950s

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and the Philippines are dealing with what was

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known as the Huck Rebellion. Now, the Hucks were

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former World War Two guerrilla fighters who are

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now rebelling against the government so they

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can try this hip new thing called communism.

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Oh, boy. Now, the U .S. the same back then as

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we are today, obviously inserted themselves into

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this conflict to give those pinko commie bastards

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what for the name of freedom and democracy. Sure.

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Yeah. Now enter Edward Lansdale. Lansdale was

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an Air Force officer working for the CIA and

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was an absolute fucking wizard when it came to

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psychological warfare. Now, unlike most other

00:24:55.220 --> 00:24:58.299
military leaders, he believed that cultural insight

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and psychological manipulation was just as important

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as, like, say, carpet bombing in impoverished

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schools and hospitals and shit. It's American

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as apple pie. Classic Edward move, dude. His

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entire counterinsurgency philosophy was based

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on understanding local myths, folklore, and superstitions,

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and then turning those against... to people that

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believe in them he's a straight up psychopath

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and i kind of love him for it yeah i do too because

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there's a lot of work that went into that in

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this time period it's not like he went on wikipedia

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and was like what are you into it's just like

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yeah he had to like do research he probably had

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to fill in the gaps and like create more lore

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to that story that didn't exist he had to like

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probably be boots on the ground in the philippines

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to like figure this shit out like i don't think

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like this stuff was just readily available on

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microfiche in like oh us What about this? What

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if he posed as an Aswang hunter who showed up

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in town and was like, I need to know everything

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about these creatures so that I can go successfully

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hunt them. Then he turned that against them.

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That's like Van Helsing. Like a spooked up Van

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Helsing. Yeah. So what you're saying is a psyop

00:26:09.720 --> 00:26:12.319
within a psyop. Oh, yeah. We're going to go deep

00:26:12.319 --> 00:26:15.940
on this one. This is like some MK Ultra level

00:26:15.940 --> 00:26:19.670
psyop. just dosing everybody with lsd and then

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he's like this is half a guy and he's gonna kill

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your family unless i can find them and stop them

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first so you said he lived on what one two three

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fucking banana street you said i didn't want

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to i didn't want to make up a philippine i didn't

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want to make up a filipino word it's all fucking

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crazy bad i'm glad you didn't i'm glad yeah i

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kind of wish you did Too late now. I know you

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won't edit it out, so I have to pre -edit. Now,

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Lansdale knew the rural hawks were deeply superstitious,

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so he devised a plan. What he did was he dispatched

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a CIA -trained Philippine Cywar team to carry

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out an operation in carefully planned out stages.

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Now, the first step, and probably the most crucial,

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was... The team had to quietly plant rumors in

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nearby villages that an Aswang had been sighted

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in the hills where a Huck squadron was encamped.

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The agents, they spread all sorts of fucking

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tales like livestock being found dead with strange

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wounds, eerie sounds at night, just basically

00:27:24.859 --> 00:27:27.440
anything that could really like stoke fear among

00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:29.420
the villagers. Over the course of a couple days,

00:27:29.660 --> 00:27:32.880
word of the Aswang haunting, quote unquote, filtered

00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:35.759
up to the Huck gorillas themselves via the locals.

00:27:36.430 --> 00:27:39.269
Now, once the rumor took hold, the Cywar squad

00:27:39.269 --> 00:27:42.349
set up an ambush on a jungle trail. The Hucks

00:27:42.349 --> 00:27:44.990
were known to frequent at night, moving up and

00:27:44.990 --> 00:27:46.950
down, patrolling the area. The team made sure

00:27:46.950 --> 00:27:50.549
it was moonless, dark. Pretty much, they made

00:27:50.549 --> 00:27:52.849
sure that it was the most eerie conditions possible

00:27:52.849 --> 00:27:57.650
for this team, for pretty much the horrors that

00:27:57.650 --> 00:27:59.990
would be dropped on them later. Now, once the

00:27:59.990 --> 00:28:01.809
team was in place, all they had to do was lay

00:28:01.809 --> 00:28:05.309
in wait for the Huck patrol to pass. And eventually,

00:28:05.369 --> 00:28:08.329
one did. And as the patrol passed, like, down

00:28:08.329 --> 00:28:11.630
the trail, the CIA -backed team struck, silently

00:28:11.630 --> 00:28:15.170
overpowering the last man in the column. The

00:28:15.170 --> 00:28:17.750
hapless gorilla was dragged into the bushes so

00:28:17.750 --> 00:28:20.349
quick that the rest of the platoon carried on,

00:28:20.450 --> 00:28:22.650
completely unaware that one of their own had

00:28:22.650 --> 00:28:26.430
just gotten got. Now, working quickly, the Cywar

00:28:26.430 --> 00:28:30.609
operatives just straight -up murdered this dude.

00:28:33.210 --> 00:28:35.970
They used a sharpened instrument. They punctured

00:28:35.970 --> 00:28:38.809
two wounds on the victim's neck, vampire style,

00:28:39.009 --> 00:28:41.869
and then hung him upside down from a tree to

00:28:41.869 --> 00:28:45.549
drain his blood. Now, all of the blood was drained

00:28:45.549 --> 00:28:51.650
and they collected it in a bucket and they pretty

00:28:51.650 --> 00:28:54.509
much leaving the corpse like an anemic and ghastly

00:28:54.509 --> 00:28:58.180
white. They really went like whole hog making

00:28:58.180 --> 00:29:00.859
this look like it was a real vampire attack.

00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:04.319
Jesus Christ. This is like a let the right one

00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:07.000
in situation. Did they cut him in half? No, no.

00:29:07.259 --> 00:29:10.240
Or no, because he's not an asshole. The beast

00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:14.519
is the half person. Yeah. And then they just

00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:17.039
dumped the body back on the trail and peaced

00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:21.680
out. These are potential future enemies. You

00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:23.680
understand? This is what you have to do. Yeah.

00:29:24.680 --> 00:29:27.380
These guys slept fine that night. Oh, for sure.

00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:32.440
When the Huck's patrol eventually retraced their

00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:34.900
path searching for their missing comrade, they

00:29:34.900 --> 00:29:37.160
stumbled upon what I would imagine was a pretty

00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:40.039
gnarly sight, which was the lifeless body of

00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:42.980
their fellow soldier, just bloodless with puncture

00:29:42.980 --> 00:29:44.640
wounds on the neck, just sprawled out on the

00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:47.700
trail. Now, according to Lansdale's account,

00:29:47.900 --> 00:29:49.980
upon seeing this, the insurgents immediately

00:29:49.980 --> 00:29:53.920
concluded that. It was obviously an Oswald. I

00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:57.859
got him. And can you imagine the conversation

00:29:57.859 --> 00:30:00.180
between the guys who killed him, though? Like

00:30:00.180 --> 00:30:02.240
they pull out some calipers. We like we got to

00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:04.740
make this really believable. No, they did all

00:30:04.740 --> 00:30:06.160
that. That whole conversation was before they

00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:08.319
ever stepped foot there. They had the material.

00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:10.730
They had the buckets. They had the stuff. And

00:30:10.730 --> 00:30:12.369
then after they're like arguing, like, I want

00:30:12.369 --> 00:30:15.150
to poke the holes. No, it's my turn. Yeah, they

00:30:15.150 --> 00:30:17.289
pulled they pulled straws or calipers or something

00:30:17.289 --> 00:30:19.609
and figured out who's going to do it. There was

00:30:19.609 --> 00:30:21.230
no conversation after they killed him. You couldn't

00:30:21.230 --> 00:30:23.329
hear anything over the high fives of a successful.

00:30:23.509 --> 00:30:25.589
Oh, yeah. No, they were. They were laughing about

00:30:25.589 --> 00:30:28.670
it. Oh, they loved it. Yeah. All right. So before

00:30:28.670 --> 00:30:31.349
before we move on, Ed, Chris, how we feeling

00:30:31.349 --> 00:30:36.460
so far about the vampire psyop? I mean, look,

00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:39.180
I think sometimes there's a magician who said

00:30:39.180 --> 00:30:41.640
I forgot who it was that like the best way to

00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:44.119
pull off a trick is to do so much preparation

00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:47.019
that no one thinks anyone would waste their time

00:30:47.019 --> 00:30:49.900
being that prepared and pulling that insane of

00:30:49.900 --> 00:30:51.940
a trick. And I feel like that's kind of what

00:30:51.940 --> 00:30:54.220
these guys did was like they were just like,

00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:57.059
we're going to take this so fucking far that

00:30:57.059 --> 00:31:00.690
even if these guys stop to think, huh? I wonder

00:31:00.690 --> 00:31:02.869
if our political enemies are doing this to us.

00:31:02.910 --> 00:31:05.329
They would dismiss that out of hand as like,

00:31:05.349 --> 00:31:08.029
no, who would go through all the trouble? And

00:31:08.029 --> 00:31:10.529
I think that's, I think in that sense, they're

00:31:10.529 --> 00:31:14.230
very successful. Yeah. Yeah. I also want to say

00:31:14.230 --> 00:31:18.490
this reminds me of a documentary on Hulu about,

00:31:18.650 --> 00:31:21.950
I think it's, I forget if it's called Bigfoot.

00:31:22.979 --> 00:31:26.539
um it has to do with the bigfoot legend that

00:31:26.539 --> 00:31:28.180
took place sorry sorry chris i'm gonna let you

00:31:28.180 --> 00:31:30.160
finish but chris brings this up like every episode

00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:31.859
and every episode he's like i don't remember

00:31:31.859 --> 00:31:33.779
what it's called i don't i watched it never once

00:31:33.779 --> 00:31:37.180
looked looked at it never once attempted to try

00:31:37.180 --> 00:31:39.279
and find out what it's called yeah so chris continue

00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:41.599
who knew who knew i'd end up talking about it

00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:46.039
so much but it uh Apparently you, if you bring

00:31:46.039 --> 00:31:48.400
it up all the time. I know. Somewhere in Humboldt

00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:50.400
County. It was in the vows when he got married.

00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:54.720
In Northern California, there was a bunch of

00:31:54.720 --> 00:32:00.660
people found torn apart bodies near a weed grower's

00:32:00.660 --> 00:32:05.140
field. And the rumors spread that this was a

00:32:05.140 --> 00:32:08.220
Bigfoot had been seen in the area. I watched

00:32:08.220 --> 00:32:09.579
this documentary. I know exactly what you're

00:32:09.579 --> 00:32:10.980
talking about. Do you know what it's called?

00:32:12.179 --> 00:32:14.160
I don't know, but it was just a drug cartel.

00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:16.819
None of us remember. Nobody knows what it's called.

00:32:17.539 --> 00:32:20.160
But yes, it was. I mean, they never really. I

00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:22.779
don't think they ended up finding any solid evidence

00:32:22.779 --> 00:32:25.000
that this was a cartel that butchered these people

00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:28.039
and spread these rumors. But through. Oh, it's

00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:31.359
called Weed Mountain. Is it called Weed Mountain?

00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:34.180
I think it's called Weed Mountain. That's why

00:32:34.180 --> 00:32:36.400
no one can remember it. Chris, just so you know,

00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:38.319
it took him like three seconds to find it. So

00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:41.289
maybe like next time. I know. Come a little bit

00:32:41.289 --> 00:32:47.569
more prepared. Jesus. Be more like our CIA. Exploring

00:32:47.569 --> 00:32:50.329
Humboldt's marijuana farms, both legal and illegal,

00:32:50.609 --> 00:32:52.349
and providing a glimpse into what it takes for

00:32:52.349 --> 00:32:54.609
an outlaw farmer to cross over to the legal market.

00:32:55.259 --> 00:32:58.819
There's no way that's what it is. That's a documentary

00:32:58.819 --> 00:33:01.019
about Humboldt. Yeah, they would have mentioned

00:33:01.019 --> 00:33:03.059
that in the first line. Also, your dick might

00:33:03.059 --> 00:33:05.099
get ripped off by a Bigfoot. Okay, here it is.

00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:09.819
It's called Sasquatch, so I was close. These

00:33:09.819 --> 00:33:12.480
are all really bad. It's almost worse that you

00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:15.009
don't remember the name of that one. I thought

00:33:15.009 --> 00:33:19.390
it was Bigfoot, so I was close. But anyway, it's

00:33:19.390 --> 00:33:20.029
a great documentary. I remember there was this

00:33:20.029 --> 00:33:22.049
movie I was watching. It was about these raiders

00:33:22.049 --> 00:33:23.769
of a lost ark. I can't remember what it's called.

00:33:24.549 --> 00:33:27.549
And they had to raid the ark, but they had to

00:33:27.549 --> 00:33:30.779
find it first because it was lost. That's a Simpsons

00:33:30.779 --> 00:33:33.559
joke. And there's a guy in it, I think his name

00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:39.400
is Illinois Stevens, I think. But anyway. Remind

00:33:39.400 --> 00:33:40.759
me to talk about Illinois Stevens when we're

00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:43.980
done recording. Sasquatch is a great documentary,

00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:45.640
and it sounds a little bit like what you're talking

00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:48.279
about here. If anybody wants to dive deeper on

00:33:48.279 --> 00:33:50.960
a similar subject or a similar story is where

00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:53.079
I was going with that. Okay. Ed, how are you

00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:56.400
feeling after all that? I love it. I love it.

00:33:56.920 --> 00:33:59.240
I love what I'm hearing. I'm a fan of what they're

00:33:59.240 --> 00:34:02.339
doing. And I can't wait to see where this goes.

00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:05.839
I just wish Ed loves the CIA and the U .S. government.

00:34:06.119 --> 00:34:09.099
He's all about it. Good to know. Is it loves

00:34:09.099 --> 00:34:11.400
the CIA or anti -communist? I'm going to get

00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:17.900
you guys two new types of fans. So according

00:34:17.900 --> 00:34:20.159
to Lansdale's account, upon seeing this, the

00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:21.739
insurgents immediately concluded that it wasn't

00:34:21.739 --> 00:34:25.099
obviously an Oswald that had gotten him. Just

00:34:25.099 --> 00:34:28.300
as the locals had. warned previously and we're

00:34:28.300 --> 00:34:30.260
now convinced that a supernatural predator was

00:34:30.260 --> 00:34:33.739
hunting them one by one and by daybreak the entire

00:34:33.739 --> 00:34:36.280
huck squadron packed up and fled the area in

00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:40.059
fear that any one of them could be next so you

00:34:40.059 --> 00:34:43.820
know Success. They immediately reverted to capitalism.

00:34:44.340 --> 00:34:48.119
They all opened stores. There was a new stock

00:34:48.119 --> 00:34:50.639
market. The only way out of this is the free

00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:54.940
market. And with them fleeing, this allowed government

00:34:54.940 --> 00:34:57.480
forces to reoccupy the area without any resistance.

00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:00.480
And even though the Aswang Ploy was, this was

00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:04.159
like a very single, isolated operation, and its

00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:06.639
effects were very localized, it was successful

00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:09.880
in dislodging. that one Huck unit, which was

00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:13.380
about 300 fighters. Oh, wow. I mean, they fucking

00:35:13.380 --> 00:35:17.219
nailed it. 300 guys? Yeah, not bad. You took

00:35:17.219 --> 00:35:20.440
a whole company out of the battle. Yeah. So the

00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:22.480
plan worked. The Hucks fled, and the CIA had

00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:24.340
won the battle without firing a single shot.

00:35:24.579 --> 00:35:26.079
I don't know if you could really say that. They

00:35:26.079 --> 00:35:28.139
did stab that dude in the neck with basically

00:35:28.139 --> 00:35:31.760
what it amounts to. They didn't fire a single

00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:33.940
shot. It doesn't mean they didn't kill anyone.

00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:37.920
That's true. That's true. But what about the

00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:40.619
long term impact of doing something like this?

00:35:40.739 --> 00:35:44.179
Well, for the locals, many villagers in the region

00:35:44.179 --> 00:35:46.119
who had heard the false rumors of the Aswang

00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:50.059
had no idea that it was a fabricated sayap. So

00:35:50.059 --> 00:35:53.420
some communities continue to live like in fear

00:35:53.420 --> 00:35:56.099
of the jungle areas that surrounded their villages.

00:35:56.340 --> 00:35:59.199
Like after the operation was over with stories

00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:01.420
of blood drained corpses being found in that

00:36:01.420 --> 00:36:05.650
region long after the sayap had ended. But then

00:36:05.650 --> 00:36:07.090
you also got to think about like the cultural

00:36:07.090 --> 00:36:10.610
consequences of something like this. Using a

00:36:10.610 --> 00:36:13.630
revered or like feared myth like the Aswang as

00:36:13.630 --> 00:36:17.469
a military ploy, it could like degrade its place

00:36:17.469 --> 00:36:20.449
in local culture or even create whole new superstitions

00:36:20.449 --> 00:36:23.170
out of something like this. Like it's possible

00:36:23.170 --> 00:36:26.530
that to this day, like some villagers are passing

00:36:26.530 --> 00:36:29.289
down exaggerated stories of quote unquote Aswang

00:36:29.289 --> 00:36:32.989
attacks that were actually like CIA. tricks and

00:36:32.989 --> 00:36:36.030
like the line between authentic folklore and

00:36:36.030 --> 00:36:39.429
propaganda when you do these types of psychological

00:36:39.429 --> 00:36:42.210
warfare like the lines get really blurry so there

00:36:42.210 --> 00:36:46.929
is like a blurring of moral and like but anyway

00:36:46.929 --> 00:36:49.369
in conclusion as far as i'm concerned we did

00:36:49.369 --> 00:36:52.070
them a favor before this this kids the kids never

00:36:52.070 --> 00:36:54.739
came home on time And now all the kids are home

00:36:54.739 --> 00:36:56.420
for dinner. Nobody's out in the fucking woods

00:36:56.420 --> 00:36:59.639
doing fentanyl. They're just fucking home, afraid

00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:02.480
of their blood being drained. Is that a thing?

00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:06.179
And honestly, as someone who spent a little time

00:37:06.179 --> 00:37:09.239
working for the United States government in a

00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:13.579
military function, frankly, I'm shocked that

00:37:13.579 --> 00:37:16.340
they didn't consider the long -term effects of

00:37:16.340 --> 00:37:20.320
their temporary actions. I have to wonder, actually,

00:37:20.340 --> 00:37:23.800
if there's a similar... if there's any kind of

00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:28.579
similar chicanery going on with the chupacabra,

00:37:28.679 --> 00:37:33.039
because I know there's some decent evidence that

00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:38.139
the modern idea of what a chupacabra looks like

00:37:38.139 --> 00:37:41.719
became very, very popular a couple of months

00:37:41.719 --> 00:37:44.920
after the movie Species came out. and if you

00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:47.739
go back so the chupacabra is hot well no not

00:37:47.739 --> 00:37:52.199
that it's hot but the alien the alien form of

00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:54.760
of the chupacabra i mean i for one i'm turned

00:37:54.760 --> 00:37:57.420
on right the the spikes on the back the kind

00:37:57.420 --> 00:38:00.340
of like uh you know the the like there's always

00:38:00.340 --> 00:38:02.519
been this legend of like a goat sucker but it

00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:05.079
was always kind of like vague and there wasn't

00:38:05.079 --> 00:38:07.719
such specific description of the hunched over

00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:12.550
spiky back big eye kind of creature And so I

00:38:12.550 --> 00:38:16.849
wonder if there was any kind of either on purpose

00:38:16.849 --> 00:38:21.329
or or like if stories kind of got mixed up because

00:38:21.329 --> 00:38:23.289
all that coming in and out of Mexico is another

00:38:23.289 --> 00:38:26.449
place where like the American government. I feel

00:38:26.449 --> 00:38:28.349
like you're giving the American government far

00:38:28.349 --> 00:38:32.030
too much credit. So are you saying that the government

00:38:32.030 --> 00:38:36.050
pretty much propositioned Hollywood to make the

00:38:36.050 --> 00:38:41.460
movie Species to as a psyop for what the. chupacabra

00:38:41.460 --> 00:38:43.320
should look like so no here's where i'm going

00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:45.300
with this where i'm going with this is that i

00:38:45.300 --> 00:38:50.000
i wonder much in the way that that uh sasquatch

00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:53.699
was used up north to scare off people uh from

00:38:53.699 --> 00:38:57.340
uh from from like a weed grow if somewhere down

00:38:57.340 --> 00:38:59.960
south of the border either the government or

00:38:59.960 --> 00:39:02.980
some kind of drug traffickers down there started

00:39:02.980 --> 00:39:05.980
using stories of the chupacabra to scare off

00:39:05.980 --> 00:39:09.019
people and and started using that description

00:39:09.019 --> 00:39:10.940
because it was a monster they'd just seen in

00:39:10.940 --> 00:39:13.860
a movie in the mid 90s and that's where the description

00:39:13.860 --> 00:39:16.980
came from as this sort of like blood -sucking

00:39:16.980 --> 00:39:18.760
creature that people were starting to all of

00:39:18.760 --> 00:39:21.420
a sudden see very clearly and have very clear

00:39:21.420 --> 00:39:24.139
descriptions of like if those wires somehow got

00:39:24.139 --> 00:39:26.960
crossed and that's part of what birthed it because

00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:28.960
there was a spike right around the time that

00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:30.820
movie came out and it could have just been i

00:39:30.820 --> 00:39:33.500
guess you know random people who had seen that

00:39:33.500 --> 00:39:36.579
movie or seen images of the chupacabra but since

00:39:36.579 --> 00:39:38.760
we're talking about the government and shady

00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:42.179
business people getting involved um maybe it

00:39:42.179 --> 00:39:44.079
was them chris i love where you're going with

00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:47.889
this but again as someone who served in the United

00:39:47.889 --> 00:39:49.949
States government, in some function or another,

00:39:50.090 --> 00:39:53.010
you're giving us way too much credit. Okay, fair

00:39:53.010 --> 00:39:54.650
enough. We're not that smart. But it wouldn't

00:39:54.650 --> 00:39:56.250
be our government. It would be the Mexican government.

00:39:56.269 --> 00:39:59.170
But also, to be fair, the chupacabra started

00:39:59.170 --> 00:40:02.869
in Puerto Rico. That's true. So it started in

00:40:02.869 --> 00:40:09.750
America. Yes. By accident. But also, I feel like

00:40:09.750 --> 00:40:12.010
the more modern interpretation of the chupacabra

00:40:12.010 --> 00:40:15.760
is no longer the... spiky -backed, red -eyed

00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:17.980
monster. It's now that weird dog with mange that

00:40:17.980 --> 00:40:19.639
everyone says they're seeing as a chupacabra.

00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:22.300
Right, right, right, right. Yeah, I feel... To

00:40:22.300 --> 00:40:24.699
me, the chupacabra's always gonna be a little

00:40:24.699 --> 00:40:27.460
gremlin with a spiky back. The dog thing, that's

00:40:27.460 --> 00:40:31.519
a psyop. Yeah. Wow, this is... Who knew this

00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:33.280
was gonna turn into, like, Michael Keaton's My

00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:36.460
Batman? Who knew this was gonna... Who knew this

00:40:36.460 --> 00:40:39.099
was gonna turn into finding out that Sarge is

00:40:39.099 --> 00:40:44.360
our CIA handler? Yes. Yeah, for real. For real,

00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:47.860
dude. But so anyway, so in conclusion, the CIA

00:40:47.860 --> 00:40:52.019
doesn't exist. The CIA's use of the Oswald myth

00:40:52.019 --> 00:40:53.900
in the Philippines was a pretty cool case of

00:40:53.900 --> 00:40:56.019
psychological warfare. And it does show like

00:40:56.019 --> 00:40:58.559
the innovative lengths that strategists like

00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:01.360
Lansdale were willing to go to be able to pull

00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:03.820
these things off. But it does make you have to

00:41:03.820 --> 00:41:06.179
consider the ethical price of exploiting myths,

00:41:06.340 --> 00:41:08.920
legends and superstitions in wartimes. Like,

00:41:08.980 --> 00:41:11.800
I mean. As we saw, it can be strategically useful

00:41:11.800 --> 00:41:14.199
in the short term, yet it sort of blurs some

00:41:14.199 --> 00:41:17.960
moral boundaries and could possibly inflict some

00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:21.840
collateral cultural damage in the region. It

00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:24.519
does, although I would argue, is the Asawang's

00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:27.860
reputation really getting any worse? Then the

00:41:27.860 --> 00:41:32.900
creature who cuts itself in half and rips babies

00:41:32.900 --> 00:41:35.679
out of women with its tongue. There's only so

00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:43.099
much you can step on that legacy. They're not

00:41:43.099 --> 00:41:46.239
worried about the actual legends itself. It's

00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:49.860
how it affects the people in the region when

00:41:49.860 --> 00:41:53.480
you do something like this. Let's say, I didn't

00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:55.739
look into this, but maybe the region that...

00:41:56.349 --> 00:41:59.710
They pulled this sign up off in like the Aslan

00:41:59.710 --> 00:42:01.789
was never a problem. They never had any fears

00:42:01.789 --> 00:42:05.730
of it beforehand. And now afterwards, like that

00:42:05.730 --> 00:42:08.070
region is now, quote unquote, like cursed. You

00:42:08.070 --> 00:42:10.309
don't want to go there. Why would you? There's

00:42:10.309 --> 00:42:12.809
a fucking monster. And that could and that could

00:42:12.809 --> 00:42:15.429
affect. I don't want to say the economy. I don't

00:42:15.429 --> 00:42:19.289
know. That's what I didn't want to say. But that's

00:42:19.289 --> 00:42:23.010
kind of what I was alluding to. Like, I do want

00:42:23.010 --> 00:42:24.920
to see that town hall meeting. I want to go.

00:42:25.820 --> 00:42:27.599
I want to go. Just the person being like, it's

00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:29.320
never been an issue here. You know, it's never

00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:30.940
been. And it's like, you shut your fucking mouth.

00:42:31.159 --> 00:42:34.079
Remember Steve? Steve's got no blood. It also

00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:37.719
does kind of like there was some instances where

00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:40.179
things like this happened and local governments

00:42:40.179 --> 00:42:44.760
used those fears to either talk shit about their

00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:47.690
opposition and or win elections like. It is a

00:42:47.690 --> 00:42:51.590
thing that happens when you use these types of

00:42:51.590 --> 00:42:54.550
psyops in these regions where the lore that you're

00:42:54.550 --> 00:42:58.250
using is so deep -seated and so ingrained in

00:42:58.250 --> 00:43:01.650
the culture that anyone can take advantage of

00:43:01.650 --> 00:43:03.829
it, whether you believe it or not. I'm going

00:43:03.829 --> 00:43:07.570
to run on a Yule Lads platform. I mean, Dave,

00:43:07.610 --> 00:43:08.949
you have to ask yourself the question. If they

00:43:08.949 --> 00:43:12.969
didn't maximize on that, that doesn't mean that

00:43:12.969 --> 00:43:15.590
somebody else wouldn't have. Oh, geez. That's

00:43:15.590 --> 00:43:19.230
a serious what about -ism. Yeah. But think about

00:43:19.230 --> 00:43:21.750
it. You're talking like a senator now, Sarge,

00:43:21.750 --> 00:43:22.989
and I don't need this shit in my life? I'm just

00:43:22.989 --> 00:43:25.489
saying most political... When this footage of

00:43:25.489 --> 00:43:26.869
this outfit comes out, you're not going to win

00:43:26.869 --> 00:43:30.449
your race. Oh, I could actually, probably. When

00:43:30.449 --> 00:43:32.510
you think about it, when you think about the

00:43:32.510 --> 00:43:34.969
people who've been elected, I'm pretty confident

00:43:34.969 --> 00:43:37.889
a leopard skin tuxedo is going to win a race.

00:43:37.889 --> 00:43:41.170
It speaks to the people. It does. No, I'm just

00:43:41.170 --> 00:43:43.929
saying, I'm just saying like... If they didn't

00:43:43.929 --> 00:43:45.989
do this, that doesn't mean that somebody else

00:43:45.989 --> 00:43:48.969
wouldn't have used... Oh, you mean if the CIA

00:43:48.969 --> 00:43:51.929
didn't use... Some kind of cultural thing. I

00:43:51.929 --> 00:43:53.989
mean, if you look at the United States... What

00:43:53.989 --> 00:43:55.969
about the United States? We're perfect. Everything

00:43:55.969 --> 00:43:59.050
is awesome. There's no... Speaking of perfect

00:43:59.050 --> 00:44:01.110
things in the United States, I think this may

00:44:01.110 --> 00:44:05.530
be... We don't really have... Like, another country

00:44:05.530 --> 00:44:08.150
couldn't use the Jersey Devil against us or something.

00:44:08.230 --> 00:44:11.139
We don't really have, like, really deep... It's

00:44:11.139 --> 00:44:16.400
deep seated monoculture, even regionally of something

00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:19.800
that that they could be right. But they could

00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:23.800
also use the they could use the the existing

00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:28.610
boogeyman of the government. offering vaccines

00:44:28.610 --> 00:44:33.090
and medical or UFOs. And they did. And they did

00:44:33.090 --> 00:44:36.030
to some degree when it came to COVID. They used

00:44:36.030 --> 00:44:37.869
the suspicion of the government doing medical

00:44:37.869 --> 00:44:40.230
testing on its people because we've got a bad

00:44:40.230 --> 00:44:44.210
history of it to get people not to take medical

00:44:44.210 --> 00:44:47.610
preventative measures that were taken back during

00:44:47.610 --> 00:44:49.829
the Spanish flu. Well, you're right. We should

00:44:49.829 --> 00:44:51.849
move to the Philippines. It sounds like that

00:44:51.849 --> 00:44:54.750
monster is not an issue anymore. I would definitely

00:44:54.750 --> 00:44:57.849
move to the Philippines and deal with this monster.

00:44:57.909 --> 00:45:00.469
I'd rather this monster than people who are like,

00:45:00.550 --> 00:45:02.929
I'm not going to get a vaccine. We don't have

00:45:02.929 --> 00:45:06.349
anything culturally right now that fills this

00:45:06.349 --> 00:45:10.460
role, but we do have a very famous. A series

00:45:10.460 --> 00:45:14.739
of witch trials that are somewhat similar to,

00:45:14.780 --> 00:45:16.800
you know, that those were caused just within

00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:19.000
the community as opposed to someone coming from

00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:22.500
outside the community. But I think to Dave's

00:45:22.500 --> 00:45:25.929
point that that these sorts of. uh you know playing

00:45:25.929 --> 00:45:28.269
with these myths and legends can cause greater

00:45:28.269 --> 00:45:30.789
problems i i don't think it's a stretch just

00:45:30.789 --> 00:45:34.389
to say that you could accidentally kick off i

00:45:34.389 --> 00:45:36.030
mean look what happened it wasn't supernatural

00:45:36.030 --> 00:45:38.829
but but even in the 80s we had the satanic panic

00:45:38.829 --> 00:45:42.329
like that exactly exactly it's not really a stretch

00:45:42.329 --> 00:45:45.170
when you think about it because we still have

00:45:45.170 --> 00:45:48.409
people in in our country today who think that

00:45:48.409 --> 00:45:53.070
you know satan is inhabiting inhabiting ozzy

00:45:53.070 --> 00:45:55.070
osbourne's body you know what i mean like yeah

00:45:55.070 --> 00:45:58.389
you've got people who are scared of monster energy

00:45:58.389 --> 00:46:01.030
cans because they think it's a tool of the devil

00:46:01.030 --> 00:46:04.409
it'll give you monster energy yeah you've got

00:46:04.409 --> 00:46:08.110
morons now yeah i was gonna say we we do have

00:46:08.110 --> 00:46:11.170
our own cryptid and his name is rob zombie and

00:46:11.170 --> 00:46:15.880
we yeah all these troubles on him Also a native

00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:18.460
of Haverhill, Massachusetts. Oh shit, really?

00:46:18.699 --> 00:46:21.380
The one good thing to come out of the Safe Tantic

00:46:21.380 --> 00:46:24.260
Panic was not actually, no, maybe not, but it

00:46:24.260 --> 00:46:29.219
was the Mike Warnke comedy records. They're so

00:46:29.219 --> 00:46:32.039
bad, but they're so good. We haven't listened

00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:34.300
to them. We know of Warnke, but maybe we should

00:46:34.300 --> 00:46:37.619
do a premium thing where we all listen to them

00:46:37.619 --> 00:46:39.719
together. We should do a bonus episode of us

00:46:39.719 --> 00:46:42.320
listening to them together. He's the guy that's

00:46:42.320 --> 00:46:46.090
like a... If nothing sticks to Teflon, how does

00:46:46.090 --> 00:46:48.150
Teflon stick to the pan? Like, he's that guy.

00:46:48.329 --> 00:46:51.610
That's him. Why don't they build a whole plane

00:46:51.610 --> 00:46:55.889
out of the black box? Yeah, he's the best. It's

00:46:55.889 --> 00:47:01.909
so bad. And also, just a side note, I just went

00:47:01.909 --> 00:47:05.650
to the Satanic Temple's global headquarters in

00:47:05.650 --> 00:47:11.300
Salem, Mass. Drop off your dues. And this man

00:47:11.300 --> 00:47:14.039
is running for office. Let's give him a break.

00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:17.760
No, no, no. Baphomet is right here. Baphomet

00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:19.480
is a part of the party. Amazing. Shit, dude.

00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:22.260
But no, the Satanic Temple is here in Massachusetts.

00:47:22.420 --> 00:47:25.380
It's very cool. Yeah. I've never been, but it's

00:47:25.380 --> 00:47:28.380
on my list. It's pretty harmless, to be honest.

00:47:28.579 --> 00:47:30.320
Everyone in there is just weirdly nice. Where

00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:33.219
else would it be? Oh, it's in Salem? Yeah. It's

00:47:33.219 --> 00:47:35.400
not in my dad's hometown of Brockton, Massachusetts.

00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:37.840
No, no, that's where we keep all the crimes.

00:47:38.219 --> 00:47:40.800
Yeah, I know, I know. This is the second episode

00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:42.820
in a row where Brockton has been brought up.

00:47:42.980 --> 00:47:46.460
I know. Dude, you keep inviting criminals on.

00:47:46.820 --> 00:47:49.000
That's what you're going to get. But there you

00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:53.239
have it. That's the CIA and Oswong psyop. That's

00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:55.199
the whole story. That's all you get from me.

00:47:55.980 --> 00:47:57.940
I think it was pretty good. It was pretty good.

00:47:58.179 --> 00:48:00.800
That was great. That was a great story. You know

00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:01.980
what's funny? It reminds me of one of my favorite

00:48:01.980 --> 00:48:04.179
Simpsons jokes of all time. I don't remember

00:48:04.179 --> 00:48:07.480
exactly how it plays out, but the line is, that

00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:09.119
was a pretty good story. Could have used a vampire.

00:48:10.519 --> 00:48:13.679
And in this sense, it was a pretty good story,

00:48:13.719 --> 00:48:16.139
and it had a vampire. Yeah, you know, I only

00:48:16.139 --> 00:48:20.250
aim to please. So that's all it is. Yeah, no,

00:48:20.329 --> 00:48:23.250
I think I think there's a really interesting

00:48:23.250 --> 00:48:25.650
and I think there will always continue to be

00:48:25.650 --> 00:48:29.769
an interesting crossover between local myths

00:48:29.769 --> 00:48:33.130
and legends or cultural legends and kind of government

00:48:33.130 --> 00:48:36.489
spook activity, because it is such a it's such

00:48:36.489 --> 00:48:39.449
an easy way to get people freaked out. And I

00:48:39.449 --> 00:48:41.989
know to a lot of American listeners, I think

00:48:41.989 --> 00:48:46.110
it's really I think the satanic panic. correlation

00:48:46.110 --> 00:48:48.710
is kind of uh spot on because to america it's

00:48:48.710 --> 00:48:50.929
really the only one that we can compare like

00:48:50.929 --> 00:48:54.050
to this if yeah there was if there was ever a

00:48:54.050 --> 00:48:56.429
way to do it yeah like and it's something that

00:48:56.429 --> 00:48:59.130
can still be used to this day yeah well it's

00:48:59.130 --> 00:49:01.809
it's it's something that like i think your average

00:49:01.809 --> 00:49:04.269
listener might be like oh my god i can't believe

00:49:04.269 --> 00:49:06.130
somebody would fall for the idea that you know

00:49:06.130 --> 00:49:08.210
there's a vampire out there in the woods or whatever

00:49:08.210 --> 00:49:11.489
but we've yeah i mean if somebody had provoked

00:49:11.489 --> 00:49:14.070
the satanic panic stories half the country wouldn't

00:49:14.070 --> 00:49:16.010
have battened it they didn't bat an eye they

00:49:16.010 --> 00:49:18.269
just were like yeah that checks out and i'm very

00:49:18.269 --> 00:49:22.070
scared now so but also think about it like don't

00:49:22.070 --> 00:49:24.369
you think that it could still be something that's

00:49:24.369 --> 00:49:27.289
being exploited even right now well it kind of

00:49:27.289 --> 00:49:30.469
is because we still we still have q anon q anon

00:49:30.469 --> 00:49:32.730
is basically the satanic panic right now and

00:49:32.730 --> 00:49:36.130
it's even worse now the adrenochrome like all

00:49:36.130 --> 00:49:39.960
that stuff like yeah it's technically the same

00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:43.840
thing and it's not being downplayed by most of

00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:46.320
the far right like you know i mean like the government

00:49:46.320 --> 00:49:49.360
is still like i mean it's very few and far but

00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:51.739
like it's not what it once was no well but it's

00:49:51.739 --> 00:49:53.719
not what it's not what it once was but it's still

00:49:53.719 --> 00:49:58.219
okay to say absolutely wild shit as long as you

00:49:58.219 --> 00:50:00.119
pretend you're a christian and well you say and

00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:02.420
it's not it's not what it once was but partially

00:50:02.420 --> 00:50:04.199
it's not what it once was because i think it

00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:08.500
has um what's the word not dissipated uh but

00:50:08.500 --> 00:50:10.920
it's it's worked its way out from just being

00:50:10.920 --> 00:50:13.739
q anon people to now there's bits and pieces

00:50:13.739 --> 00:50:16.980
of q anon just in the republican platform there's

00:50:16.980 --> 00:50:19.519
yeah it's just great diffused that's the word

00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:22.480
i'm like it's diffused out into politics at large

00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:24.880
and i don't i don't think there's any putting

00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:28.059
that genie back in the bottle like we now are

00:50:28.059 --> 00:50:31.320
forever dealing with this and not to both sides

00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:35.260
the argument but you also have democrat politicians

00:50:35.260 --> 00:50:38.429
that have just kind of resigned themselves because

00:50:38.429 --> 00:50:39.889
they're in like purple districts where they're

00:50:39.889 --> 00:50:42.409
like yeah you know the devil could still be a

00:50:42.409 --> 00:50:44.389
problem we should probably look into it yeah

00:50:44.389 --> 00:50:46.789
yeah because they want to get a committee and

00:50:46.789 --> 00:50:49.510
look into that to look into the devil yeah no

00:50:49.510 --> 00:50:52.230
but uh but ed and chris you you guys are hollywood

00:50:52.230 --> 00:50:56.070
elites you guys have worked on yeah coastal coastal

00:50:56.070 --> 00:50:59.150
yeah you guys are coastal elites i mean have

00:50:59.150 --> 00:51:01.070
you guys ever been to any illuminati parties

00:51:01.070 --> 00:51:03.480
where you've seen some adrenochrome You know,

00:51:03.480 --> 00:51:06.460
I literally mentioned going to a Motel 6 in McConjure,

00:51:06.500 --> 00:51:10.179
Pennsylvania for for a truck show, antique truck

00:51:10.179 --> 00:51:12.199
show every year. I don't get invited. Nothing

00:51:12.199 --> 00:51:15.699
disabuses you of the notion that satanical leaves

00:51:15.699 --> 00:51:18.679
control this country faster than working in Hollywood,

00:51:18.880 --> 00:51:21.880
where I mean, look, we're not at the highest

00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:24.179
echelon. So maybe there's some shady business

00:51:24.179 --> 00:51:28.099
going on at the very, very tippy top. But I mean,

00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:32.519
it's really it's such a silly. it's such a silly

00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:37.360
um idea and i don't know i think it's it's sort

00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:41.599
of a a relic of an older time where where everyone's

00:51:41.599 --> 00:51:44.119
lives were maybe like hollywood and politicians

00:51:44.119 --> 00:51:46.900
were all felt further from you and now that everybody's

00:51:46.900 --> 00:51:49.400
on twitter and everyone's on instagram and i

00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:52.079
feel like the mystique has faded a little bit

00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:55.380
it's a lot harder to imagine like you know uh

00:51:56.969 --> 00:52:00.809
timothy chalamet uh bisecting a baby and eating

00:52:00.809 --> 00:52:03.969
it it just doesn't feel like like he's overexposed

00:52:03.969 --> 00:52:06.869
but he's still doing it yeah i mean it's all

00:52:06.869 --> 00:52:09.309
just there's less ownership there's less ownership

00:52:09.309 --> 00:52:12.510
now too where yeah in the sense that like she

00:52:12.510 --> 00:52:15.250
signed to rko pictures and you can't do anything

00:52:15.250 --> 00:52:17.610
else anywhere and we can we can terminate your

00:52:17.610 --> 00:52:20.570
contract you'll never work again like like that's

00:52:20.570 --> 00:52:23.110
and so you better cut this baby in half if you

00:52:23.110 --> 00:52:27.070
want to you want to be on the 1943 i don't know

00:52:27.070 --> 00:52:29.369
whatever where now it's like you want to star

00:52:29.369 --> 00:52:32.210
in in gone with the wind it's still gate kept

00:52:32.210 --> 00:52:34.489
but it's not like at a point where like like

00:52:34.489 --> 00:52:37.349
go along with illuminati yeah else like i don't

00:52:37.349 --> 00:52:39.869
know did you guys see babylon damien chazelle's

00:52:39.869 --> 00:52:42.969
babylon no i love rory scoville and i still couldn't

00:52:42.969 --> 00:52:45.750
start it it got it got shit on a lot but i actually

00:52:45.750 --> 00:52:48.250
from what i understand it wasn't that bad no

00:52:48.250 --> 00:52:52.650
it's just it's super it's it it's um i don't

00:52:52.650 --> 00:52:55.619
know if it got if he kind of butchered it in

00:52:55.619 --> 00:52:57.559
the edit or what happened it's very disjointed

00:52:57.559 --> 00:52:59.579
it feels like three different movies kind of

00:52:59.579 --> 00:53:01.739
stapled together but there's a sequence in there

00:53:01.739 --> 00:53:06.539
that i think captures the idea of what um people

00:53:06.539 --> 00:53:13.159
used to have of like how uh satanic or or horrific

00:53:13.159 --> 00:53:16.739
parts of hollywood must have been um and now

00:53:16.739 --> 00:53:19.960
i can't imagine people really feeling that way

00:53:19.960 --> 00:53:23.360
um although i mean there's still bad i mean it

00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:26.280
happened yeah people are still abused and there's

00:53:26.280 --> 00:53:29.079
still but honestly as with everything else in

00:53:29.079 --> 00:53:32.679
the country it's more of a an economic uh abuse

00:53:32.679 --> 00:53:36.179
than a ritualistic yeah satanic that makes sense

00:53:36.179 --> 00:53:39.260
uh we're all we're all you made a good point

00:53:39.260 --> 00:53:41.420
you you definitely made a good point i don't

00:53:41.420 --> 00:53:44.019
know if it got heard but like talking about people

00:53:44.019 --> 00:53:47.460
like diddy r kelly uh harvey weinstein like all

00:53:47.460 --> 00:53:50.570
these powerful men who did shitty things but

00:53:50.570 --> 00:53:53.510
at the same time i think to chris's point we've

00:53:53.510 --> 00:53:55.750
reached a point where you can only get away with

00:53:55.750 --> 00:53:58.489
that for so long yeah before somebody takes picture

00:53:58.489 --> 00:54:02.630
of it or video of it or i mean alex jones videotaped

00:54:02.630 --> 00:54:08.610
uh fucking um bohemian grove what 30 years ago

00:54:08.610 --> 00:54:11.550
at this point so also that's also been crazy

00:54:11.550 --> 00:54:13.929
debunked the way he did it i know i know some

00:54:13.929 --> 00:54:17.269
members personally yeah this really yeah the

00:54:17.269 --> 00:54:20.239
way he the way he did it was all, I mean, it's

00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:22.820
Alex Jones. So it was mostly fabricated in the

00:54:22.820 --> 00:54:24.480
way he, the way he went about doing it, like

00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:26.960
sneaking in and all that stuff. Right. It is

00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:30.800
a whole thing. You can learn about it, but all

00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:33.260
right guys. So we're coming up on an hour. I

00:54:33.260 --> 00:54:34.780
think that's, I think that's long enough for

00:54:34.780 --> 00:54:38.079
the hundredth episode. I think. Shit, man. A

00:54:38.079 --> 00:54:39.300
hundredth episode of scared all the time. It'd

00:54:39.300 --> 00:54:43.480
be 16 hours long. Because a normal episode is

00:54:43.480 --> 00:54:45.000
an hour and a half. So it's like, I don't know.

00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:47.440
We try to keep it. Listen, the way I figured

00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:49.599
is that we keep the episode shorter. If someone

00:54:49.599 --> 00:54:51.519
finds it and they like it, they can hammer through

00:54:51.519 --> 00:54:53.960
all of them faster. I don't, that's the way I

00:54:53.960 --> 00:54:56.219
always thought about it. We never thought at

00:54:56.219 --> 00:54:58.019
all about it. That's why we didn't think enough.

00:54:58.239 --> 00:55:01.820
You guys thought this. He thinks I just show

00:55:01.820 --> 00:55:04.760
up. That's kind of like, well, it's interesting.

00:55:04.820 --> 00:55:06.500
I think there sounds like there's a larger division

00:55:06.500 --> 00:55:09.489
of labor between. chris and i have a more even

00:55:09.489 --> 00:55:11.809
division of labor he just does the research sounds

00:55:11.809 --> 00:55:14.630
like you don't do anything oh well they're periodically

00:55:14.630 --> 00:55:17.750
i'll do an episode because dave deserves a vacation

00:55:17.750 --> 00:55:21.110
from having to put up with my bullshit sure yeah

00:55:21.110 --> 00:55:25.030
all right chris and ed thank you so much for

00:55:25.030 --> 00:55:27.670
joining us it was a pleasure it was it's a long

00:55:27.670 --> 00:55:31.030
time coming um yeah if you guys a lot of fun

00:55:31.030 --> 00:55:34.469
thank you uh i'll give you the floor plug whatever

00:55:34.469 --> 00:55:36.789
you want to plug say whatever you need to say

00:55:36.789 --> 00:55:39.289
this is all you for the next however long you

00:55:39.289 --> 00:55:42.130
want to talk 30 minutes chris let's go this will

00:55:42.130 --> 00:55:49.349
be trained for uh go to www .scare go to www

00:55:49.349 --> 00:55:53.949
.all that training www .patreon .com backslash

00:55:54.199 --> 00:55:56.940
Scared all the time to sign up for scared all

00:55:56.940 --> 00:56:00.239
the time premium. We have merch discounts. We

00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:03.500
have bonus episodes. We have a live show that

00:56:03.500 --> 00:56:07.599
we do once a month. It's it's a really I think

00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:09.760
we offer a lot. And I think the prices are very

00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:12.539
fair because Ed busts his ass to make sure that

00:56:12.539 --> 00:56:15.940
all of our merch and everything that we do is

00:56:15.940 --> 00:56:19.619
as affordable and fair for our listeners as it

00:56:19.619 --> 00:56:22.719
can be. Yeah. And you do it all yourself, right?

00:56:22.780 --> 00:56:25.019
Don't you print a lot? Yeah. Yeah. I make all

00:56:25.019 --> 00:56:26.800
the shirts I make. I make almost every piece

00:56:26.800 --> 00:56:29.739
of merch that I physically can myself and everything

00:56:29.739 --> 00:56:33.159
goes out from us. And yeah, the bonus episodes

00:56:33.159 --> 00:56:34.760
are every other week. So you get like twice as

00:56:34.760 --> 00:56:36.500
many episodes every month. Yeah, we're switching.

00:56:36.599 --> 00:56:41.199
We're now doing an every week show with our regular

00:56:41.199 --> 00:56:43.159
episodes every other week. And then if you're

00:56:43.159 --> 00:56:45.900
a patron, a bonus episode filling in those gaps

00:56:45.900 --> 00:56:49.440
so you can go. uh every week with your scared

00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:53.059
all the time fix uh but yeah uh it's been great

00:56:53.059 --> 00:56:55.019
thank you guys for having us on uh this has been

00:56:55.019 --> 00:56:56.820
a really fun fun episode yeah we got to do it

00:56:56.820 --> 00:56:58.019
the other way around we got to have you guys

00:56:58.019 --> 00:57:00.199
on i hope you better block out 20 hours guys

00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:05.199
i'm in let's do it all day and uh if they want

00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:07.500
to follow you on social media where can they

00:57:07.500 --> 00:57:10.909
find you Oh yeah. Instagram is Google scared

00:57:10.909 --> 00:57:12.409
all the time. You can go scared all the time.

00:57:12.449 --> 00:57:14.590
Podcast .com all of our shits on there because

00:57:14.590 --> 00:57:16.829
I don't have it top of my head. Yeah. I'm, I'm

00:57:16.829 --> 00:57:21.630
at Chris Kalari on Instagram and blue sky and

00:57:21.630 --> 00:57:24.090
Twitter. Although who knows, I think I'm going

00:57:24.090 --> 00:57:26.190
to be down to blue or just one by the end of

00:57:26.190 --> 00:57:28.869
the year. Yeah. Twitter sucks. Yeah. I don't

00:57:28.869 --> 00:57:30.750
have, I don't have my personal stuff out there

00:57:30.750 --> 00:57:33.030
in the world, but you can, if you're talking

00:57:33.030 --> 00:57:35.110
to scared all the times, Instagram account, you're

00:57:35.110 --> 00:57:36.989
pretty much talking to me. So yeah, I can tell.

00:57:40.320 --> 00:57:42.940
All right. And if you want to follow us on Instagram,

00:57:43.019 --> 00:57:45.320
it's at Crypto Cocktail. Follow us on TikTok

00:57:45.320 --> 00:57:48.840
at Crypto Cocktail Party. If you want to support

00:57:48.840 --> 00:57:52.119
us on Patreon, we got two tiers. It's one's $3

00:57:52.119 --> 00:57:53.780
a month. It's basically just you want to support

00:57:53.780 --> 00:57:56.260
the show. And then we have a $7 a month tier

00:57:56.260 --> 00:57:58.619
where you get unedited video episodes, which

00:57:58.619 --> 00:58:01.579
means this episode will be crazy long if you

00:58:01.579 --> 00:58:06.539
want to watch the unedited video episode. Let's

00:58:06.539 --> 00:58:08.980
see. Sarge, you got your coloring book. Do you

00:58:08.980 --> 00:58:10.039
want to plug your coloring book? The coloring

00:58:10.039 --> 00:58:14.800
book, sargesupernormal .com, $9 .99. Really thought

00:58:14.800 --> 00:58:17.239
I'd be done with this shit by January, but unfortunately,

00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:21.000
our government is trash. Okay. Wait, did they

00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:24.960
ban coloring books? No, it's a coloring book

00:58:24.960 --> 00:58:27.440
that is not super friendly towards the current

00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:29.599
administration. Oh, I got you. I got you. Oh,

00:58:29.619 --> 00:58:34.219
sure. Okay. Got you. Yeah, I think that's pretty

00:58:34.219 --> 00:58:36.239
much it. Leave a five -star rating and review

00:58:36.239 --> 00:58:38.360
if you want to, or leave a five -star rating

00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:41.460
and a scathing review. I think that's really

00:58:41.460 --> 00:58:45.280
funny to do. If you rate it five stars and just

00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:47.360
talk mad shit about it, it'll confuse people,

00:58:47.559 --> 00:58:49.940
and I think it'll make them more curious to check

00:58:49.940 --> 00:58:53.840
it out, I think is pretty funny. I hate these

00:58:53.840 --> 00:58:55.760
guys, but God damn it if I don't respect them.

00:58:58.589 --> 00:59:00.369
But with that out of the way, normally I would

00:59:00.369 --> 00:59:01.789
give the floor to Sarge to say goodbye and I

00:59:01.789 --> 00:59:03.230
love you to the audience, but do either of you

00:59:03.230 --> 00:59:05.329
want to take the reign to say goodbye and I love

00:59:05.329 --> 00:59:06.909
you to the audience? Chris, you want to do it

00:59:06.909 --> 00:59:09.090
at the same time? Yeah, you ready? Let's do the

00:59:09.090 --> 00:59:11.869
scared all the time mind meld. Let's see if it

00:59:11.869 --> 00:59:14.110
works. Okay, it starts with goodbye, just so

00:59:14.110 --> 00:59:18.630
you know. Okay. On the count of three. One, two,

00:59:18.889 --> 00:59:22.489
three. Goodbye and I love you. Fucking worse.

00:59:22.590 --> 00:59:25.329
We're not good at mind melding. Anyway, leave

00:59:25.329 --> 00:59:27.690
these guys five star reviews in spite of us.

00:59:28.400 --> 00:59:29.239
Thank you.