1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:25,400 Hey everybody. 2 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,720 Welcome back to another episode of Cryptic Cocktail Party Show. 3 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,040 We have a few drinks, share a few laughs, take a dive into the unknown. 4 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,960 I'm your host Dave, joined as always by my cohost Sarge. 5 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:35,920 How's it going? 6 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,440 Your dog's going ape shit in the background. 7 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,280 I don't know how she found a squeak toy. 8 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,240 I literally hid all of them. 9 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,640 She's just, she just hates me so much. 10 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:49,440 She's excited because you know why? 11 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,600 She knows that today is our two year anniversary. 12 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:54,880 Hell yeah. 13 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:55,800 Yeah. 14 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:56,640 Two years. 15 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:58,080 Two years. 16 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,000 Well for you, I guess it's been your one year anniversary, kind of. 17 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,760 This is my one year anniversary, but I'll just pretend. 18 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:04,080 Yeah. 19 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:04,800 That's what I mean. 20 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,040 Pretending is what we do half time on the show anyways, so it's fine. 21 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:09,200 Yeah. 22 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,480 I was part of the show in the first season, but it was, you know. 23 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:13,760 Yeah, we were. 24 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:14,880 Yeah, it's whatever. 25 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:16,960 Uh, but yeah, two years. 26 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:18,240 I can't believe it. 27 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,440 We've come so far Sarge in two years. 28 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:23,120 It's been crazy. 29 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:24,040 It's bananas. 30 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,640 This show started out as a way for me to reconnect with my friends. 31 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,160 And now it's turned into me talking to you every day, which I kind of enjoy 32 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:31,320 better because fuck those guys. 33 00:01:31,320 --> 00:01:32,800 They didn't want to be on my show to begin with. 34 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,000 You reconnected with a new friend. 35 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:37,520 I did. 36 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,440 I made a new lifelong friend through the internet. 37 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,120 That's the magic of the internet and podcasts and social media. 38 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,200 You know, that's just, it's beautiful. 39 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:45,880 It's a beautiful thing. 40 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:50,080 I mean, not, no social media is a nightmare and it should be fucking abolished, but. 41 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:51,960 It wasn't for that. 42 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:53,000 I would never have met you. 43 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:54,160 You wouldn't have been a guest on the show. 44 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,360 We probably would never have been sponsored by Narragansett beer. 45 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:57,520 We wouldn't have won an award. 46 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:02,440 So this is less about our two year anniversary and more about how social 47 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,080 media kind of fucking rules, but sucks at the same time. 48 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:05,600 Exactly. 49 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:06,360 Exactly. 50 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,720 Now, if you'll give me just a moment, I'm going to pull the squeaker out of that toy 51 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,360 because it's going to drive me insane. 52 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:14,160 You got a champ. 53 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:15,160 Hi, sweetheart. 54 00:02:15,640 --> 00:02:16,640 Best dog in the world. 55 00:02:16,640 --> 00:02:19,480 You know, I love you, but if you squeak that thing one more time, I'm going to 56 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:20,560 shoot it in the space. 57 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,080 So for those of you who can't see Sarge right now, he is dressed to the nines 58 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:25,080 for this occasion. 59 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:25,360 All right. 60 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,160 Top hat, fucking top. 61 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:28,480 You look, you look great. 62 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,760 And like I said earlier, before we started recording, you kind of look like the hat 63 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:31,960 man. 64 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,520 If this was a lucid Benadryl fever dream right now. 65 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:36,040 Yes. 66 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:37,400 Yes. 67 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:43,520 I I'm like, I'm like not the worst nightmare you have, because when you wake up, 68 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,440 you're first scared because you see the top hat, but then I'm just going to start 69 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,960 talking to you about battles in World War Two. 70 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:52,520 Yeah, that's. 71 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,400 Well, you see in World War Two, they experimented with geometry on their ships 72 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:02,680 to try and hide it from Helicopter. 73 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,800 Did you know they had inflatable tanks? 74 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:07,400 I did know that. 75 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,680 I actually I learned that probably embarrassingly recently. 76 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,880 I don't I don't mean like within the past, like four months, but within the past, 77 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,840 like 10 years or so, I learned that. 78 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,840 And I feel like that's something I should have learned way soon. 79 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,680 No, it's it's they actually kept it a secret for a long time. 80 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:22,720 Did they really? 81 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,240 Yeah. And the Germans tried it, too. 82 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,440 They tried to build like a whole fake town out of wood and they built like tanks out 83 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,200 of wooden stuff. And so Germans flew. 84 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,800 I mean, the English flew over at one point and just dropped one wooden bomb 85 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,120 because they knew immediately that it was fake. 86 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,240 Rolling the fuck out. 87 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:41,880 That's pretty good. 88 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:43,880 Yeah, it's pretty good. 89 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,440 Oh, all right. 90 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,360 Oh, speaking of the British, before we get started, I was a guest on 91 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,360 the Spooky Shed, which is a podcast out of England. 92 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,560 It was really fun. So definitely go check that out. 93 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,160 I've ranted for so long that they had to split it into two parts. 94 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,760 You know, it's a good episode when it takes two episodes to get through. 95 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:07,960 Yeah, it was fun. 96 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,200 I get nervous and I talk if I don't have like a script or like notes 97 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,720 in front of me, I'll ramble forever if I'm nervous. 98 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,840 So like and he was so polite, Liam. 99 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,480 And like you could tell, because like I would start talking and I'd talk forever. 100 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,360 And I'd have to be like, do you want to like interject at any point? 101 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,040 I'm just talking. He's like, no, no, you're good. 102 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:27,400 I'm like, no, you can't be this polite. 103 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,720 You keep going. You have to cut me off or I this will be 104 00:04:31,280 --> 00:04:32,480 it'll be a whole new podcast. 105 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,440 It just won't end. It'll be. 106 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,680 They were thoroughly prepared for you. That's what happened. 107 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,680 They were prepared. They were like Americans talk a lot. 108 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,000 So we're just going to let this go and we will not interrupt 109 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:42,760 because we're too polite. I think. Yeah. 110 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:43,840 Also, I learned this. 111 00:04:43,840 --> 00:04:48,520 I didn't know that England also uses miles and like miles per hour. 112 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,200 All of all the rest of Europe uses kilometers. 113 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,440 So I was starting to just talk. Yeah. 114 00:04:53,840 --> 00:04:55,520 So I was no idea. 115 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,640 I was asked by Liam to let everyone know that they in fact use 116 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:00,720 what makes sense. 117 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,800 The it's the imperial system, right? 118 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,640 They are the empire. So. 119 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,720 I mean, they're still measuring shit in stones. 120 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,080 Yeah, but I think that's just wait. 121 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:13,480 I don't really know. 122 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,560 That's still too much. 123 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:20,520 That's because I mean, like, is it's just it blows my mind 124 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,440 when they're like, yeah, he's 21 stone. 125 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:23,720 What is that? 126 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,640 Because I have stones in my backyard and they're not that heavy. 127 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,920 I think 21 of them would not equal my weight. 128 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:31,360 I don't know what stones are. 129 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,920 I mean, it's probably it was probably what they had to use. 130 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,520 Like they had to do the math to figure out how many stones 131 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,760 it would take to crush a human woman for being a witch. So 132 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:44,200 it probably has to something like the date back to that point in time. 133 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:45,480 I really don't know. 134 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,120 But I can find out like how many stones you had to put in the castle wall 135 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,160 before you could marry the king's daughter. 136 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:58,560 God damn. 137 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,600 But yes, I was a guest on a show. 138 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,320 It was it was fun. I had a good time. 139 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:03,320 They're really cool dudes. 140 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:04,400 Well, I say dudes. 141 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:05,520 The other guy wasn't there. 142 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,800 So it was just Liam and I guess Billy. 143 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,400 I don't know. He had to take. 144 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,600 All right. He had to take care of like his quote unquote his newborn baby. 145 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,160 Pfft fucking nerd. 146 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:15,200 Dumb. Right. 147 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,480 Talk about cryptids. 148 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,680 Yeah, I don't I don't believe that baby even exists. 149 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,280 I haven't seen it. You know. Yeah. 150 00:06:23,280 --> 00:06:24,760 Baby could be a cryptid for all I know. 151 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,160 I had a hell of a week this week. 152 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,880 Yeah. As I as I we didn't really get to talk about it 153 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,080 because we had a guest and we didn't want to depress them. 154 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,760 But, you know, I had to put my my cat, Ralphie to sleep. 155 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,880 Yeah. Happy to hear the show. 156 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:39,880 Cat. Yeah, I know. 157 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,680 I know. Poor guy. 158 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,320 But, you know, he's he's up in in kitty cat heaven 159 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,800 biting mice in half because he's a fucking serial killer. 160 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,800 So you're saying is that cat heaven is mouse hell? 161 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,240 Yes. We're very efficient the way it worked out. 162 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:58,360 Gotcha. Gotcha. 163 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,360 Mouse Hitler is just running away from my cat right now. 164 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,120 And then and then my poor dad did the most Boston thing ever. 165 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:10,960 He fell in a Dunkin Donuts parking lot, slipped on some ice. 166 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,120 Shouldn't be laughing, but that's I mean, he. 167 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,520 This yeah, you can't get more New England than slipping 168 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,760 and falling on ice in a Dunkin Donuts parking lot at nine in the morning. 169 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,520 Yeah. Was he holding a couple of fucking lodge extra extras, dude? 170 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,520 Fucking no, thankfully he was on his way in, not his way out. 171 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,040 OK, so he didn't burn himself because it didn't get the two for one 172 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,680 special of the fall and the scalding hot coffee 173 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,760 pouring all over your chest. 174 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,560 That's good. Well, is he OK, at least I hope he's OK. 175 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,280 He's OK. He's his shoulders a little dinged up, but he's all right. 176 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,080 He's feisty as ever. 177 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,680 Oh, he's like, I'm going to I'm going to call Morgan and Morgan. 178 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,480 And I was like, all right. 179 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:48,360 All right. 180 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,040 Did Morgan and Morgan get in trouble for being like 181 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:57,160 not being licensed in half the states that they claim to be able to do law? 182 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,480 And look, he can go for it. 183 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:01,440 You can go for it. 184 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,920 I'm it's their own fault for not putting ice meltdown. 185 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:06,960 I mean, it's like the cheapest thing we have here. 186 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:07,960 That's true. 187 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,720 But also they probably assume that if you live in New England, 188 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,680 you know how to walk on ice to say I'm not calling out your dad. 189 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,960 But I mean, he's been here longer than either of us have. 190 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,200 You should know. 191 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,840 Bro, bro, you're you're too old to have slipped on ice. 192 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,880 Yeah, right. That's what I'm saying. 193 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,720 That's going to be the defense for Duncan Donis when he goes to court. 194 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:32,040 It's like, bro, you know where you are. Look at him. 195 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,120 He's been here his entire life. 196 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:35,480 Yeah, he should know better by now. 197 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,400 They'd be like, how dare you sue Duncan Donis. 198 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,600 You grew up in Quincy. You know where we came from. 199 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,480 Think about all the ad revenue Ben Affleck's not going to get because of this. 200 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,920 That's on you, bucko. 201 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,640 He's suing Ben Affleck directly. 202 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,080 Well, I'm sorry about your cat and I'm sorry about your dad. 203 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:55,280 That sucks. 204 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,520 I mean, I'm starting to feel the the effects of aging. 205 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:03,360 I slept wrong three nights ago and now my right arm is almost completely useless 206 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,320 because I have a fucking knot in my back that just won't go away. 207 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,280 So, yeah, no, I feel you. 208 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:13,080 Yeah, that's that's that's exactly that's the hallmark of aging. 209 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,160 Is that shit just doesn't work anymore when you wake up. 210 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,040 All I did was turn weird, I think, at one point in the night. 211 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,880 And then something. Yeah, I have to fucking sit weird on my couch 212 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:24,720 or else my arm just goes completely dead. 213 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,400 It's not great. It's all bad. 214 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,200 But anyway, Sarge, we have a two year anniversary special to get to. 215 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:32,200 I call it a special. 216 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,200 It's going to be something a bit different. 217 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,200 I started this show two years ago. 218 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,440 In the first episode, I did with somebody, Buddy Colby. 219 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,760 And so what I wanted to do is I kind of wanted to see. 220 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,560 If I could do it better, not that the episodes bad, but, you know, 221 00:09:46,560 --> 00:09:48,920 I mean, like I want to compare and contrast the two. 222 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,480 So today, Sarge, we are headed. 223 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,520 I'm ready to the great state of West Virginia. 224 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:58,960 Very exciting. 225 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,560 All right. So we're going to head into Braxton County, West Virginia. 226 00:10:01,560 --> 00:10:05,240 Now, this is one of those quintessential American slices of Appalachia, 227 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,520 where the rolling hills are endless, the forests feel ancient 228 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,920 and the small towns carry stories whispered across generations 229 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,760 where the women are scarce and the sheep are scared. 230 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,760 No known for its tight knit communities 231 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,840 in a history steeped in coal mining, farming and folklore, 232 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,960 Braxton County wasn't exactly like a hub of excitement. 233 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,160 It's very small area. 234 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,600 This was like a place where neighbors knew each other by name 235 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,960 and local legends were as much a part of life as the mountains themselves. 236 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:39,240 But on September 12th, that quiet charm would be interrupted. 237 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,200 One of Braxton County's smallest villages would find itself thrust 238 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,760 into the national spotlight for reasons no one could have predicted. 239 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:51,120 This week, Sarge, we are doing Flatwoods Monster redo. 240 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:52,120 Yes. 241 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,760 Are you familiar with the Flatwoods Monster? 242 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,040 You have to be being on this show, I feel like, at some point. 243 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,000 I'm relatively familiar. 244 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,600 We have talked about the Flatwoods Monster a number of times. 245 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:08,840 So I know it through context, but I don't know the story that well. 246 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,760 OK, so the Flatwoods Monster was the first episode that I ever did. 247 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,560 It's one of my favorite cryptids of all time. 248 00:11:14,560 --> 00:11:19,400 It's just everything about it is great from the story to the imagery 249 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,480 to even like the fan art of it is the best. 250 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,720 For some reason, the Flatwoods Monster, if you're wondering, is a girl. 251 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,120 There's no doubt about it. 252 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,080 So it's always like the cutest fucking fan. 253 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,200 Just everything about this story is amazing. 254 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,840 So if you're not familiar with it, this should be good. 255 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,600 Now, the script, I kind of kept the same from the original, 256 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:42,120 but I added some more flavor, some more details that I missed in the first one. 257 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,720 So hopefully this is a little bit better. 258 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,800 We will see. Who knows? 259 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,360 We're going to find out together. 260 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,880 Now, on September 12th, 1952, in the small village of Flatwoods, West Virginia, 261 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,120 a quiet evening was about to get very weird. 262 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,120 Four young boys, Eddie. 263 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:59,440 That's the name of my sex tape. 264 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:00,440 Four young boys? 265 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,440 Not the four young boys part. 266 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,720 It's a little late on the delivery, and now people are going to clip that. 267 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:10,720 Yeah, it's going to be great. 268 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,200 I'm going to clip it. 269 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,600 This is going to be the leading clip of the show. 270 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,600 Do you want me to take that again? 271 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,600 Yes, please. 272 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,120 On September 12th, 1952, in the small village of Flatwoods, West Virginia, 273 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,720 a quiet evening was about to get very weird. 274 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:27,720 Four young boys. 275 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:28,720 Name of my sex tape. 276 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:29,720 God damn it. 277 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,720 Yes. 278 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,720 From the top. 279 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:50,720 Four young boys, Eddie and Freddie May, Tom Higher and Neil Nunley, 280 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:55,720 were playing outside Flatwoods Elementary School, doing whatever it is that they... 281 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,720 Whatever the 1950s version of like playing Pokemon Go was. 282 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,720 It's probably like Jacks or fucking... 283 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,720 That one thing with like the stick in the ball. 284 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:05,720 Yeah. 285 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:06,720 I don't know what they did. 286 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,720 The hoop. The hoop. With stick. 287 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,720 Like kicking the... 288 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,720 I don't know what they did for fun in the 1950s, but whatever that... 289 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:15,720 I think they were playing football. 290 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,720 I genuinely don't know what they were doing. 291 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,720 I mean, there's other stuff that they could have been doing, given that it was a self, 292 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,720 but let's give them the benefit of the doubt. 293 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:28,720 It was around 7 p.m., almost fully dark, when suddenly a bright red light shrieked across the night sky, 294 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:33,720 and it eventually crashed into a hillside on G. Bailey Fisher's farm in Braxton County. 295 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:38,720 Naturally, the boys joked about it being a flying saucer or the start of an alien invasion. 296 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,720 One of the boys even suggested that it might have been a meteor, 297 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:46,720 and that they should bring it to the geological society, like some sort of fucking intergalactic narc, because... 298 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,720 Yeah. You keep that shit. You find a meteor, you hang on to it. 299 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:50,720 That's what I'm saying. 300 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,720 That's your rock. 301 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:53,720 Nerd. 302 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,720 Yeah. Space gave you a fucking gift, and you're laughing in their face. 303 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:01,720 Exactly. Now, their curiosity peaked. The boys decided to investigate. 304 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:06,720 On their way, they stopped at the May family home to let Kathleen May, Eddie and Freddie's mom know 305 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:11,720 what they had just seen, and that they were about to embark on a stand-by-me-style adventure 306 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,720 to go poke dead alien bodies with some sticks. 307 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,720 Is there not a better movie in the world? 308 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,720 Yeah, there's way better movies. 309 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:24,720 Stand by me, I just... How dare you? Stand by me is one of the greatest films ever made. 310 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,720 Okay. 311 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,720 About four people looking to find a dead body. 312 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:35,720 This is basically that, but with children and a... Or I guess, stand by me is with children. 313 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,720 But this is that with aliens. 314 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:43,720 But Kathleen, being fucking just rad as hell, was like, oh, fuck yeah, dude. Hold up a second. 315 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,720 I'm coming with you. Let me get my coat, my shoes. 316 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,720 I do gotta make a phone call real quick. 317 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:54,720 Now, Sarge, who do you think she called upon hearing that her sons and their friends just witnessed 318 00:14:54,720 --> 00:15:03,720 a fireball crash into a farm? Was it A, the police, B, a 17-year-old boy, or C, the Air Force? 319 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,720 17-year-old boy. 320 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,720 She called the 17-year-old boy. His name was Eugene Lemon. 321 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:14,720 Now, to be fair, he was a local national guardsman, but she called him to escort her 322 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:21,720 and this motley crew of boys and the family dog onto someone else's property to investigate a UFO crash. 323 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,720 You know why she called the national guardsman? Because no one knows what they do. 324 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,720 True, but also, can you be 17 and a national guardsman? Maybe in the 1950s. 325 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:36,720 Yes. The way it works is you can join the military at 17. 326 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:42,720 A lot of guys back in the day would forego graduating high school and just jump right in 327 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,720 to join the national guard or the military. 328 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:50,720 I thought you had to be 18, though. You can join, but you can't be deployed until you're 18? 329 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,720 Is there a cutoff? Is that what it is? 330 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:57,720 Yeah. Basically, it's kind of like when you get your driver's license, you can get your learner's permit at 15 and a half, 331 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,720 but you can't get your driver's license until you're 15. 332 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:07,720 So with the national guard, you go to basic training, but you can't do anything like deploy until you're 18. 333 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:12,720 You can't legally get shot at or murder someone until you hit—that's very cool. 334 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,720 All right. I didn't know that. I asked that question to Colby when we were first on here, and he was like, 335 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,720 I have a different time. I was like, yeah, you're probably right. I have no fucking idea. 336 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:28,720 Well, my great uncle lied about how old he was to get deployed to Korea and was almost immediately captured and turned into a POW. 337 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,720 Oh my God. 338 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,720 Didn't work out well for him. Poor guy. 339 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,720 Was he like 16? 340 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:39,720 Yeah. Basically, like back in the day, you could just tell people you were 25 and they would just be like, all right. 341 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,720 No checks and balances. They were just like— 342 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,720 None. Just none, honestly. 343 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:46,720 That's bananas. 344 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:56,720 So she called 17-year-old Jean Lemon, the national guardsman, escort her and the four boys and the family dog out to investigate this crash. 345 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:03,720 Now, as this ragtag team of segregation, air, paranormal investigators approached the crash site, the air changed. 346 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,720 A thick, acrid mist hung around them. 347 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,720 Are you okay? 348 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,720 Did you spit take? Did I get you? Did I get you? 349 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,720 You got me. 350 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:26,720 Yes. 351 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,720 I thought it was going to be me to be the first one. 352 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:33,720 No, no, you got me. 353 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,720 That's one of my favorite lines I've ever written and I've never written anything funnier after that. 354 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,720 Hold on. I need to get to the right water fountain before we leave. 355 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,720 As they approached the crash site, the air changed. 356 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,720 A thick, acrid mist hung around them, reportedly burning their eyes and lungs. 357 00:17:54,720 --> 00:18:03,720 The group described it as smelling strongly of sulfur or burning metal, which I'm sure probably didn't put their nerves at ease at all. 358 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:04,720 No. 359 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:10,720 Now, the dog, proving to be the smartest of the group, was just like, nah, dude, I'm out. 360 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,720 That's what I would have done. 361 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,720 Just bailed. No, we're not doing this today. 362 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,720 So he ran all the way back home. 363 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:18,720 This does not smell right. 364 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:24,720 Yeah, but the rest of them, they pressed on because fucking as we see time and time again, there's no sense of self-preservation here. 365 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:29,720 And also they're committing a crime by trespassing onto this dude's property. 366 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:34,720 Anyway, so in the distance, they spotted a pulsating red light coming from what appeared to be some sort of craft. 367 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:39,720 They moved closer, though every step probably felt like just a bad decision. 368 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,720 Probably not. You know, I take that back. 369 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,720 They clearly were fine with it because they're just trespassing. 370 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:45,720 They don't give a fuck. 371 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:50,720 Yeah, I mean, when you think about it, it was either a craft or a moonshine still. 372 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:56,720 Well, either way, when you when you first come over the hill and you smell that and you. 373 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,720 I would have thought moonshine a meth myself. 374 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:03,720 Yeah, you smell your your eyes are burning, your lungs are burning, and then you just keep going. 375 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:09,720 Like, there's no way that they had any reservations about just seeing a craft. 376 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:10,720 No, thank you. 377 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,720 Yeah. So then one of the boys noticed two glowing orbs to their left. 378 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,720 Eugene being the only one with the flashlight shined it in that direction. 379 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,720 And then this is when shit got like kind of fucked. 380 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,720 So standing near a single oak tree was a 10 foot tall creature. 381 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:31,720 Its spade shaped head gleamed in the flashlight's beam and its bright glowing eyes seemed to pierce through them. 382 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:36,720 They had long claw like hands and no visible legs hovering eerily above the ground. 383 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:42,720 The May brothers claimed later it didn't seem alive, more mechanical, like a Cronenberg version of like Rosie from the Jetsons. 384 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:47,720 At first, the creature didn't like seem to react to the group at all. 385 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:52,720 But as soon as the flashlight beam hit it, shit got real, real fucking quick. 386 00:19:52,720 --> 00:20:01,720 The creature, the creature raised its clawed arms, sprayed an oily substance toward them, which is like an intergalactic like bukkake. 387 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,720 Like it just fucking showered them with space jits. 388 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,720 I don't really know what it was. It just said it was some oily substance. 389 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,720 This got Japanese real fast. 390 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,720 Yeah, but it seems to be a theme for the last few episodes. 391 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,720 All right. Yeah, that's true. 392 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:20,720 It then unleashed a high pitched hissing sound and then began gliding towards them. 393 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,720 Terrified, Eugene dropped the flashlight and fell backwards out of the way. 394 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:29,720 And that was the moment that everyone finally was like, I think it's time we we skedaddle. 395 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,720 Time to go. Yeah, time to move on. 396 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:36,720 Yeah. So they sprinted back to the May home as fast as their PF flyers could carry them. 397 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,720 Once there. I like that good reference. You like that shit? 398 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:49,720 Yeah. Once their chaos ensued, everyone was coughing, puking, crying and covered in this strange alien cum. 399 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,720 Name of my sex tape. 400 00:20:52,720 --> 00:21:00,720 The way I described it before was that you ever see that sort of family guy when they all drink the Ipikak syrup? 401 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,720 And they're all. 402 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:11,720 I feel like that's pretty much what was happening here. They just went from Japanese to German so fast. 403 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:16,720 Oh, yeah. I like that you just relate everything happening to porn and I kind of fuck with it. 404 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:21,720 Different kinds of porn. Yeah. You know, and this is why we are award winning podcasters. 405 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,720 My encyclopedic knowledge of disgusting things you can find on the dark web. 406 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:30,720 You were in the military, man. I'm sure you got lonely over there. You had to find. 407 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,720 You know, you're looking at the same thing. How many how many stepsisters caught in the dryer? 408 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:39,720 Can you really, you know, really? Yeah, it just gets to a point where it's too much. 409 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:45,720 Yeah. 410 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,720 This is going off the rails and I love it now. 411 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:53,720 So Kathleen, the mom, immediately called the sheriff's department to report what had happened. 412 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,720 Her voice undoubtedly shaking as she described the chaos that they had just escaped. 413 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:05,720 Now, Sheriff Robert Carr and his deputy were quick to respond, arriving alongside a local reporter from the Braxton Democrat. 414 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:10,720 The reporter interviewed everyone and then they went to the crash site alongside the sheriff and his deputy. 415 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,720 But by the time they got there, the craft, the myths, the monster, they were all gone. 416 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:19,720 All that remained was an imprint on the ground where the craft had been a lingering smell, 417 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:25,720 which is later described by one national guardsman as sharp and chemical, possibly resembling mustard gas. 418 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:30,720 And they also they also found strange skin marks leading from the oak tree to the crash location. 419 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,720 Fuck you, Sarge. I hate it. 420 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:39,720 I can't even say skin marks that you. 421 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,720 Oh, OK. Sorry. You're good. 422 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:47,720 Yeah, I'm a child. Yeah. So with little to go on, it seemed as if the whole incident had vanished into thin air. 423 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:52,720 And with that, the mystery deepened and the story began spreading beyond the small community. 424 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,720 I mean, that's what happens when you send a reporter along with. 425 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,720 Yeah. Yeah. 426 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:06,720 Well, but anyways, and by beyond, I mean like beyond because no good UFO story is complete without a visit from the men in black. 427 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:13,720 Yes, I am auditioning for men in black right now. 428 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,720 You're a shoe and Sarge. 429 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:24,720 Now, a few days later, two men in suits, believed by some to be government agents, showed up at Kathleen May's door, claiming to be reporters from a neighboring city. 430 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,720 They asked to see the site and investigate further. 431 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:31,720 When Kathleen brought them to the farm, they found traces of the oily residue still on the ground. 432 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:36,720 And then they just raw dog. They just were touching it with their hands and shit. 433 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,720 Of course, rubbing it on their suits. 434 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,720 Aliens ain't got no fingerprints. 435 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:46,720 I can't imagine that that's protocol. 436 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,720 They're just like, oh, what is this? 437 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,720 Just fucking like raw hands, bare hands, just touching all that. 438 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,720 There's no way that that's. 439 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,720 You get the oil on. You don't know what that oil is. 440 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:57,720 What are you doing? 441 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,720 Well, I mean, they're the men in black. 442 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,720 I mean, to be fair, they probably know better than we do about what's going on. 443 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,720 You get one guy who's just licking it. 444 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,720 It doesn't taste right. 445 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,720 Salty. 446 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:18,720 Kind of smells like chlorine bleach. 447 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,720 This alien clearly loves swimming pools. 448 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:29,720 Must have been eating pineapple. 449 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,720 Too much bleach in their laundry, that's for sure. 450 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:37,720 Back at the May house, the men asked more questions and requested a sample of the residue. 451 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,720 I don't know why they didn't just take it from the field. 452 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,720 They fucking fucking rubbed their hands in it. 453 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:49,720 Anyways, Kathleen, thinking quickly, offered offered them the dress that she had worn that night, which was still covered in the goo. 454 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:50,720 I don't know why you're still wearing it. 455 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,720 She was just cooking dinner in it. 456 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:59,720 The men took the dress, thanked her, and then casually as they were leaving, we're just like, oh, by the way, we're not reporters. 457 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,720 We work for the Pentagon. 458 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,720 Don't tell anyone about this. Cool. You cool. 459 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,720 All right, cool. See you. We'll get the dress back to you as soon as possible. 460 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,720 She never got the dress back. 461 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,720 Of course not. 462 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:18,720 In the aftermath of the incident, the May family and the boys became the focus of local and national media attention. 463 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,720 Reporters from across the country descended on Flatwoods, eager to hear their story. 464 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:31,720 While some treated them with respect and genuine curiosity, as we've seen time and time again, others dismissed their accounts as hysteria or like an elaborate hoax. 465 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:38,720 The small town of Flatwoods found itself split between believers and skeptics, with the incident becoming the hottest topic of conversation in months. 466 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,720 Again, not much happens there, so I could see how this obviously would be that. 467 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,720 Now, I'd be talking about it all day every day. 468 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:53,720 Oh, consistently. Even if I didn't know who these people were, which I mean, you probably do because it's a tiny town, I'd be talking shit constantly. 469 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:54,720 Yeah. 470 00:25:54,720 --> 00:26:02,720 You fucking hear what these clowns down there are saying? Also, it's 1950. Like, it's hard to believe what was happening there. You know what I mean? 471 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:07,720 No, they're like, it was either communists or aliens, and we don't like either one. 472 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,720 Nothing has changed. 473 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,720 No, it's pretty much the same. Yeah. 474 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:19,720 Now, the witness accounts were investigated by notable UFO researcher Gray Barker, who we've mentioned on the show several times. 475 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:30,720 He played a key role in bringing national attention to the story. Additionally, the U.S. Air Force became involved in Project Blue Book, which was actively investigating UFO sightings during the 1950s. 476 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:35,720 Military investigators visited the area to examine the site and interview witnesses. 477 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:48,720 Though their findings were never fully disclosed, their presence did help solidify the story's connection to UFO phenomena and place the Flatwoods monster among the iconic Cold War era mysteries that they were all investigating at the time. 478 00:26:48,720 --> 00:27:03,720 The boys, particularly Ed and Fred, faced teasing and ridicule from classmates and neighbors who doubted their story. Kathleen May, however, stood firm, often retelling the events in vivid detail and defending her sons against critics. 479 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:13,720 The lingering health effects from the encounter, like the coughing, the nausea, the irritation from the mysterious mist, it was a concern for a while, though they did gradually subside. 480 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:23,720 Like, we kind of glossed over that. Like, they were all that shit. Like, the Ipikak thing. Like, yeah, yeah, that was a consistent thing for a little while. 481 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,720 But over time, I mean, they're they just kind of got over it. 482 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:36,720 It became a funny story. Like that time I had to do the tear gas and basic training at the moment. I thought I was going to die. But like 10 minutes after I was like, can we go again? 483 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:41,720 It's fun. How bad does that suck? I can't imagine it's great. 484 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:52,720 It sucks because you're trapped in a room with iron doors and the doors are locked in the drill sergeants who aren't wearing masks because they're barely human anyway. 485 00:27:52,720 --> 00:28:02,720 Making you say stuff before you can leave. But when you breathe in, your lungs immediately reject everything that happened and spit it back out. 486 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:13,720 OK, so you really can't breathe. Yeah. And your eyes start watering and it almost feels like on the on the more sensitive skin on your body, like the back of your neck and like the inside of your forearm. 487 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:25,720 It feels like a sunburn. And then you run outside into the fresh air and you've just all of your mucus membranes open at once and everything kind of spills out of you. 488 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:30,720 And you literally have to flap your arms to get it out of your lungs. Really? 489 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:36,720 Yeah. Like when you when you open your your arms up, like your lungs kind of expand and then it's like a bellows. 490 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:44,720 You're just kind of like trying to crank it out. But what's funny is when you're done, it's actually. 491 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:49,720 Because, you know, it's not it. The police weren't shooting it at me while I was protesting. 492 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:56,720 I was in basic training and everyone else was doing it, too. So it became fun. And then I went through again. 493 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:01,720 I mean, you could smell so good after it clears everything up. Oh, yeah. 494 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,720 Yeah. Your sinuses are crystal clear. 495 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,720 Fucking Nettie Pot, dude. Just tear gas me, bro. Tear gas. I don't even so good. 496 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,720 Fuck the Geneva Convention. Put that shit right in my face. 497 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:19,720 And the worst part is like it was only maybe 10 percent of what like is actually in a tear gas grenade. 498 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:26,720 So it really wasn't that bad. But I was also in an enclosed room. So I think that's why that's because they opened a whole one. 499 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,720 We just die. OK, military's fun, kids. You should join. 500 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:35,720 Yeah. So yes, like I said, so so it was a concern for a bit. 501 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:44,720 They subsided, but they even found there was even reports of unusual metal fragments found at the site that they were never conclusively analyzed. 502 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:55,720 Skeptics proposed various mundane explanations for the sighting. The quote unquote monster was suggested to be nothing more than a barn owl perched on a tree branch. 503 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,720 And the glowing eyes were attributed to the reflective quality of its eye shine. 504 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,720 The red light in the sky was believed to be a meteor. 505 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:07,720 And the mist could have been natural gas or another environmental anomaly, which. All right. 506 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:16,720 So it's this I'm not saying they're right. OK, what I'm saying is that this is a town near a mining place. 507 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,720 You know, I mean, like gas is escaping from the ground could be. 508 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:25,720 I don't know if Flatwoods specifically had mines in it. I probably should have looked that up. 509 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,720 Probably. West Virginia is full of mines. 510 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:39,720 All I'm saying is that this is a bullshit explanation, but I could see where they might come to that conclusion that it might be an environmental anomaly because of mines. 511 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:47,720 Yeah. Anyways, despite these theories, the uniformity of the witnesses descriptions gave pause to skeptics and believers alike. 512 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:54,720 Now, additional sightings around the same time added even more fuel to the fire, expanding the legend of the Flatwoods monster. 513 00:30:54,720 --> 00:31:03,720 Mrs. Audra Harper reported seeing a similar creature near the town of Heaters, about five miles north of Flatwoods. 514 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:12,720 And this was this the sighting happened, I think, like if it's the same day, but like earlier in the day or something like that. 515 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:23,720 Now, while walking through the woods, she noticed a ball of fire glowing on a nearby hill, which dissipate, which disappeared and revealed a tall man shaped figure. 516 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,720 Terrified Harper and her friend flood the area. 517 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:41,720 Another sighting took place the night after the Flatwoods incident, this time near Strange Creek, where George and Edith Snitowski, driving with her infant son, experienced a sulfuric stench and saw a bright light. 518 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:49,720 Then a reptilian 10 foot creature appeared, scraping its claws across the car hood while vanishing into the woods. 519 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:57,720 Now, the thing about this one is that what they described was basically the Flatwoods monster, but without like the head on it. 520 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:09,720 Does that make sense? Like almost like the like the the spade shaped thing around like on the Flatwoods monster and like they said the eyes looked like portholes like it was almost like a mask, like a mask. 521 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:17,720 OK, OK. What they're describing is pretty much the Flatwoods monster, but without its helmet on, maybe. You know, I mean, Jesus. 522 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:29,720 Yeah. George Snitowski, he told his story to a magazine called Mail Magazine, which sounds like a porn mag. 523 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:35,720 But I looked it up and it's like one of those like men's adventure pulp magazines that were big in the time. 524 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,720 You got it. One of those adventure type things. 525 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,720 I looked it up. The covers were fucking rad. 526 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:48,720 Was it like a guy in a trench coat with a revolver like pointing it while holding like a scantily clad woman? 527 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:56,720 No, it kind of looks like they kind of look it looks like the artwork from like you're seeing like the Robinson Caruso, like just like a guy like in a loincloth. 528 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,720 Oh, OK. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like that type fighting off a bear or something. 529 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,720 Yeah, it's like that kind of stuff. It's pretty cool. Got it. 530 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:09,720 But yeah, so their story added another chapter to the eerie mystery of Braxton County in the years following the Flatwoods incident. 531 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:20,720 The region experienced a surge in UFO sightings and interest from enthusiasts, reporters, investigators and UFO enthusiasts flocked to Braxton County, keeping the story alive and fueling new discussions. 532 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:32,720 Now, while no additional counters with the Flatwoods monster were officially reported, the area's mysterious reputation grew, placing it at the heart of unexplained phenomena discussions. 533 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:41,720 Now, despite skepticism and controversy, the event became a cornerstone of American cryptid lore, captivating believers and sparking curiosity worldwide. 534 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,720 The story of the Flatwoods monster spread like wildfire, putting the tiny town of Flatwoods on the map. 535 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:52,720 Tourists began flocking to the area and the creature, nicknamed Braxie by the locals, became a regional icon. 536 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:58,720 The town celebrates the legend with an annual festival complete with theme parades and alien inspired food trucks. 537 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:04,720 Visitors could stop by the Flatwoods Monster Museum to see artifacts, artwork and memorabilia dedicated to the sightings. 538 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,720 I gotta go to this town. Yeah, it seems pretty rad. 539 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,720 Now, Braxie's influence extends far beyond Flatwoods. 540 00:34:10,720 --> 00:34:16,720 It's haunting otherworldly design has inspired filmmakers, comic book creators and game designers worldwide. 541 00:34:16,720 --> 00:34:27,720 Movies have reimagined Braxie as a terrifying alien invader, while video games like The Legend of Zelda Majora's Mask and Fallout 76 immortalized it as a cryptid stalking the Appalachian wilderness. 542 00:34:27,720 --> 00:34:32,720 Even internationally, the Flatwoods Monster has become a symbol of the unexplained. 543 00:34:32,720 --> 00:34:38,720 It's been it's in that new anime on I think Netflix or Hulu called like Dundadundundun or some shit like that. 544 00:34:38,720 --> 00:34:43,720 It's reimagined like a sumo wrestler. It's pretty cool. 545 00:34:43,720 --> 00:34:52,720 And it's also it's decided it's so entrenched in like the UFO lore that like it comes up when people are mentioning like Roswell or Area 51, shit like that. 546 00:34:52,720 --> 00:34:57,720 It's also been connected to the Hopkinsville Goblins like that happened around the same time. 547 00:34:57,720 --> 00:35:00,720 Really? Yeah. So it's kind of cool. 548 00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:05,720 Let's see this one little one off thing just became like a whole fucking it inspired so many people. 549 00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:12,720 Now, today, like I said, you can find museums, you can find themed ice cream shops and even giant chairs in its honor. 550 00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:17,720 Yeah, Flatwoods has a bunch of big old fucking like Adirondack chairs that are shaped. 551 00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:19,720 It floats. It doesn't need to sit down. 552 00:35:19,720 --> 00:35:24,720 It's not for it. It's just for you. 553 00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:27,720 It just looks like the Flatwoods Monster. 554 00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:31,720 Oh, OK. OK. I got confused. I was like, why would it like it was an offering? 555 00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:35,720 Like, please come back. We have chairs now. 556 00:35:35,720 --> 00:35:41,720 Please can be. We've conveniently placed chairs for your seed and pleasure Flatwoods Monster. 557 00:35:41,720 --> 00:35:50,720 Yeah. Like I said, it's been reinterpreted, reinterpreted. 558 00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:53,720 What the fuck? Reinterpreted, reinterpreted. Thank you. 559 00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:55,720 You're welcome. It's so many different. 560 00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:57,720 That's why I'm wearing the top hat. 561 00:35:57,720 --> 00:36:04,720 Now, though the May brothers have said they wish they could forget the whole incident, the legend of the Flatwoods Monster lives on. 562 00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:10,720 And how could it? That's like not every day that you get chased by a spade headed jizzing alien robot. 563 00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:17,720 So I understand why they'd want to forget. But Sarge, that is the story of the Flatwoods Monster. 564 00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:19,720 How are you feeling? I want a Flatwoods Monster t-shirt. 565 00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:22,720 If any of our fans live in West Virginia, just let me know how much. 566 00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:24,720 I think we can make that work. I think we can figure something out. 567 00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:29,720 That would make me so happy. It sounds it sounds hilariously awesome. 568 00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:35,720 And while you were talking, you would mention that somebody thought it might be a barn owl. 569 00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:43,720 Yeah. And that reminded me of something I was looking up when I had that weird cryptid like noise in my backyard. 570 00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:45,720 I was looking up different kinds of owls. 571 00:36:45,720 --> 00:37:01,720 And there's actually a belief amongst folk folklorists that barn owls were kind of the nexus for a lot of ghost stories of colonists back in the day, because they do look like fucking aliens. 572 00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:05,720 They look terrifying. Well, that's also the thing is like the barn owl. 573 00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:09,720 They they bring it up on like the grays like. Yep. 574 00:37:09,720 --> 00:37:15,720 You're seeing your CD. What was that Mila Jovovich movie? The fourth kind. 575 00:37:15,720 --> 00:37:19,720 Fifth Element? No, the fourth kind. Fourth kind. 576 00:37:19,720 --> 00:37:21,720 Have you not seen it? Remember that one? No, dude. 577 00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:24,720 That was like my Blair Witch. It was what it was. 578 00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:31,720 All right. Well, the Blair Witch was my Blair Witch, but it was like I knew the Blair Witch was a movie and not really found footage. 579 00:37:31,720 --> 00:37:35,720 But the way they marketed the fourth kind is that it's based off true events. 580 00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:38,720 It's like a retelling with like, oh, yes, I remember. 581 00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:42,720 I remember this. I don't remember the story, but I remember the marketing campaign. 582 00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:45,720 Yeah. I mean, it wasn't none of it was real. But fuck, dude. 583 00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:48,720 That movie fucked me up. I hate owls now because of it. 584 00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:56,720 I mean, whenever people go to like the regressive like hypnosis thing, they would say they saw an owl in their window. 585 00:37:56,720 --> 00:38:00,720 But if you look at an owl, it looks like a gray alien. 586 00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:12,720 And so that's what they. Yeah. So, I mean, that makes sense to me that ghosts or aliens could be just people holding a torch with flames and the flames and shadows and shit bouncing around the forest. 587 00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:15,720 And then you see a barn owl. I mean, I would shit myself immediately. 588 00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:19,720 You know, this thing's a terrifying to look at. Not great. It's all bad. No. 589 00:38:19,720 --> 00:38:23,720 All right. So how do you feel with the Flatwoods monster? How are we doing? I love it. I love it. 590 00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:28,720 This is right up there with the Sacramento Pants for me. Yeah, I love the Flatwoods monster. 591 00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:34,720 Yeah, it just makes me happy. Yeah. Fucking nice green metallic dress on fucking thick as fuck. 592 00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:40,720 She knows how to party. She knows how to party. She knows what she's doing. 593 00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:44,720 All those little country boys. She's just looking for a boyfriend. That's got to be it. 594 00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:48,720 So that was that's what this is what I decided to do for a two year universe. 595 00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:54,720 I wanted to see if I could make the script better, make the episode not better, but different. 596 00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:58,720 I think I think we we I think you succeeded that we did it. 597 00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:03,720 It's also a story you never heard. And maybe, you know, maybe listeners of the show that are new didn't hear the original one. 598 00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:12,720 And maybe they'll hear this and they'll want to compare and contrast to see how much I fucked up and how much I kept the same. So it's fine. 599 00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:18,720 But yeah. All right, Sarge. That's it. Happy to your anniversary. Happy to your anniversary. 600 00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:21,720 And happy anniversary to all the fans who've been listening for that. 601 00:39:21,720 --> 00:39:25,720 Yeah, thank you guys. This is really all all because of you. 602 00:39:25,720 --> 00:39:31,720 You know, in a way, we really appreciate it. Thank you for listening to us. 603 00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:38,720 It's been two years. God damn, dude. What am I doing my life? Yeah, I don't know, but I love it. It's great. 604 00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:46,720 All right, Sarge, that out of the way. Is there anything you want to plug in? Yeah, I want to thank Narragansett Beer for being a part of the family. 605 00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:49,720 Cam from Narragansett. I love you. Thank you. 606 00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:56,720 Also, a good friend of mine, Scott, reached out. He's listening to the show. Scott, appreciate you listening, buddy. 607 00:39:56,720 --> 00:40:01,720 I won't give out his last name in case he's trying to remain under the radar. 608 00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:06,720 Thank you to my dog for perpetually finding sweet toys right when I'm talking. 609 00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:11,720 Buy the coloring book, SagesSuperNormal.com. 610 00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:15,720 It's nine ninety nine, but there's a lot of pages and there's a lot of shit for you to do. 611 00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:22,720 And, you know, if you feel a little anxiety about the way the world's going right now, this comic book will help a little bit. 612 00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:26,720 A little bit. Yeah. What else? I don't know. 613 00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:37,720 But real quick, it's not this isn't really the thing of the segment, but I got a nice message from a another podcast called Good Beer, Bad Movie Night. 614 00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:41,720 And so I think this calls for maybe, you know, fuck it, let's do it. 615 00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:48,720 I love it. I love it. 616 00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:51,720 Yeah, they just they just send a nice message. 617 00:40:51,720 --> 00:41:00,720 I don't think they've gotten to where you come on the show yet, maybe. But they just say, oh, they they they start from the beginning. 618 00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:07,720 Crazy choice. You got two years to go there. But they just said you and your guests plural. 619 00:41:07,720 --> 00:41:11,720 So I'm assuming they haven't gotten to where you're a consistent one. But it says you and your guests are. 620 00:41:11,720 --> 00:41:14,720 I hope they don't let them down. You and your guests are a hoot. 621 00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:19,720 I'm still catching up and listening to episode 51 at the moment. One day I'll hear you in real time. 622 00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:25,720 Well, hopefully you catch up eventually. They're half hour episodes. I feel like it's easy to catch up. 623 00:41:25,720 --> 00:41:29,720 Yeah, you can do it eventually. Yeah. But yeah, Good Beer, Bad Movie Night. 624 00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:33,720 Thank you guys for listening. I really appreciate it. 625 00:41:33,720 --> 00:41:40,720 Again, go listen to my episodes plural with the spooky shed. 626 00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:45,720 You can I'll put a link to where you can find those episode in the episode descriptions. 627 00:41:45,720 --> 00:41:51,720 And we've got a Patreon. We've got two tiers. If you just want a fucking vibe, hang out. 628 00:41:51,720 --> 00:41:56,720 You don't really care about bells and whistles. Just want to support us. We got a tier that's three dollars a month. 629 00:41:56,720 --> 00:42:05,720 If you want unedited video episodes, which are we started last week with Jeremy, that's going to be like four a month. 630 00:42:05,720 --> 00:42:10,720 That's a good deal. Yeah, that's going to be so that's that's the second tier, which is seven dollars a month. 631 00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:18,720 We'll throw in some extra bonus content whenever me and Sarge or one of us decides to just do it randomly. 632 00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:23,720 We'll throw that up there. But yeah, five, three dollars, seven dollars a month. 633 00:42:23,720 --> 00:42:26,720 It's whatever, whatever you want to do. I don't really care. 634 00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:29,720 But if you want to support and if you don't want to pay anything to support the show, 635 00:42:29,720 --> 00:42:33,720 you can also just leave us a rating and review on either Spotify, Apple, wherever you can. 636 00:42:33,720 --> 00:42:41,720 Just it's it's awesome. And I think that's it for me. 637 00:42:41,720 --> 00:43:08,720 Sarge, do you want to say goodbye and I love you to the audience? Goodbye. And I love you. 638 00:43:11,720 --> 00:43:14,720 Thank you.