1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:28,800 Welcome 2 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:30,720 to Cryptid Cocktail Party. 3 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,600 I'm Sarge and with me unfortunately is not Dave. 4 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,880 He couldn't make it tonight, but I brought Maynard instead. 5 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:37,880 Hey. 6 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:43,720 Because he lives next door and he's good at this, gooder than I am. 7 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:48,840 Well I mean I'm good at setting up the stuff, but I think you're better at the talking part. 8 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,720 Well good for us because I'm going to be doing a lot of talking. 9 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,960 I did a lot of research and I got deep into it. 10 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,500 Before we get into that, welcome to Cryptid Cocktail Party. 11 00:00:57,500 --> 00:01:01,480 This is a show where we share a few drinks, have a few laughs, and take a dive into the 12 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:02,480 unknown. 13 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,040 Maynard, how are you feeling? 14 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,040 I'm feeling pretty good. 15 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:10,920 I mean a little bit of the Sunday scaries tonight as usual for Sunday and all that. 16 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,360 Yeah, I know that feeling. 17 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:13,360 I hate Sundays. 18 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:18,360 But otherwise it was a nice sunny day and I can't complain. 19 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:19,360 Yeah. 20 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,080 I hate that I got to get up tomorrow. 21 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:22,680 Oh yeah, that's the scary part. 22 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:23,680 So annoying. 23 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:24,680 All right. 24 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,240 Well, we got a big show. 25 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,160 So I'm going to just jump right in. 26 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:30,160 Nice. 27 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:31,160 Let's go. 28 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:32,160 I'm not even going to lube it up. 29 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:33,160 There's going to be no foreplay. 30 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,160 Here we go. 31 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:39,760 Maynard, how familiar are you with the term gas lighting? 32 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,480 Very, actually. 33 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:47,440 I mean I think it's kind of an overused saying right now, but I'm familiar with the correct 34 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:48,440 usage of it. 35 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:49,440 Yes. 36 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:50,440 Yeah. 37 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,120 I think it was a brilliant analogy to make and then it got out of hand. 38 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:55,120 Yeah. 39 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,920 It just gets used if you say someone's lying. 40 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,640 It's like, oh, there's more to it than that. 41 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:02,640 Yeah. 42 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:07,480 So gas lighting is a term for the deliberate act of making people question their own reality. 43 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:12,520 So for those of you who are unfamiliar with the term, the most common method is diminishing 44 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:17,120 someone's perception of an event by presenting a counter narrative in which the person's 45 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,920 perception is deemed inaccurate or even unreasonable. 46 00:02:20,920 --> 00:02:23,520 Gas lighting often involves manipulation. 47 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:28,080 An example would be someone experiencing abuse by a domestic partner and that domestic partner 48 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:34,240 later denies the abuse ever occurred or even accuses the victim of lying to create drama. 49 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:39,440 The term gas lighting refers to a 1944 American movie called Gaslight, which itself is a remake 50 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,760 of a 1940 British film because we can't leave anything well enough alone. 51 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,620 And that British film was based on a play written in 1938. 52 00:02:46,620 --> 00:02:51,880 The distinction is notable because the 1944 film had a massive budget, which helped add 53 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:56,200 a little bit more detail and to differentiate it from the source material. 54 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:00,760 So in the play and subsequent films, a husband tries to make his wife think she's crazy 55 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,240 in order to hide his criminal behavior. 56 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,520 One of the ways he does this is by making her think that she lost something and then 57 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,960 later hiding it in her purse so she finds it and feels like she's going crazy because 58 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,080 she checked her purse a bunch of times. 59 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,240 Another way is by causing the gas powered lamps in their home to flicker when he is 60 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:21,060 not around because this takes place in the 1800s, the movie. 61 00:03:21,060 --> 00:03:25,260 So when he comes home, she tells him about it and he can just dismiss her experience 62 00:03:25,260 --> 00:03:27,160 by saying, well, you know, you're just seeing things. 63 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:28,560 The lamps are fine. 64 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,080 So that's kind of the premise. 65 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:35,320 A few notable examples of gas lighting could be some examples. 66 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,480 You see media reports of a smaller than usual crowd in an event like, I don't know, like 67 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:45,860 a spitball in here, like a presidential inauguration, but later a man in a poorly fitting suit insists 68 00:03:45,860 --> 00:03:49,320 the crowd was actually the biggest crowd in history. 69 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:54,040 Or perhaps a guy loses a competition, like say, I don't know, an election in 2020 or 70 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,760 something, but then insists that he actually won it. 71 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:01,720 Or maybe a guy with an absurdly stupid haircut and poorly executed spray tan says he's a 72 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,260 genius but has the vocabulary of a seven year old. 73 00:04:04,260 --> 00:04:08,200 These are all great examples of gas lighting. 74 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,160 This behavior is not isolated to abusers and known felons with terrible spray tans. 75 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:16,880 During the Soviet era of East Germany, the secret police known as the Stasi had a practice 76 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,560 called zetsung. 77 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:20,960 Hopefully I pronounced that right. 78 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:26,040 Kind of sounds like what happens if you get like an electrical jolt through your testicles 79 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:27,040 for sexual pleasure. 80 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,560 And it sounded legit the way you said it. 81 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,080 So zetsung, I'm guessing is how it's said. 82 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:37,320 Where among other things, they would undermine perceived enemies by literally breaking into 83 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,500 their houses in the middle of the night and moving stuff around in order to make them 84 00:04:41,500 --> 00:04:43,360 think that they were going crazy. 85 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,200 So some examples of the things that they actually did. 86 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,660 This is stuff they actually did. 87 00:04:48,660 --> 00:04:53,960 Making alarm clocks go off at five in the morning instead of seven in the morning. 88 00:04:53,960 --> 00:05:00,720 Or moving socks from one dresser drawer to another. 89 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,400 Have you seen the show Barry with Bill Hader? 90 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:04,400 Yeah. 91 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:08,440 There's a part in that when he's describing how he could go over to his girlfriend's, 92 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:13,480 no spoiler alert, go over to his girlfriend's friend's house that she doesn't like and slowly 93 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:14,920 add in like a smell. 94 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:15,920 Oh, right, right. 95 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:16,920 I remember this. 96 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:17,920 Yeah. 97 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:18,920 And she just looks at him like what? 98 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,800 You know, just to slowly make her think she's going crazy. 99 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,960 That's a fine example if you're a Barry fan. 100 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,600 Absolutely crazy behavior, but so silly when you think about it. 101 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:29,600 Oh, yeah. 102 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:30,600 You know what I mean? 103 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,400 Like, obviously there were other things in play here. 104 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:37,320 They did other stuff, but that was kind of their weird version of harassment. 105 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,920 They would also make clicking noises on the phone lines when people were talking about 106 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:48,520 subjects to make it more notable that they were being listened to. 107 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,800 Now, what if I told you there was a group of people who believe they were being gaslit 108 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:57,960 and subject to stassy like tactics across the United States and the world, in fact, 109 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:58,960 right now? 110 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,440 Like, did they believe this on a daily basis? 111 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:03,960 Yep. 112 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:04,960 But are they really? 113 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:05,960 Oh, yeah. 114 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:06,960 They believe it. 115 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:07,960 They believe it. 116 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:13,840 Buckle up, buddy, because today we're going to be talking about gang stalking. 117 00:06:13,840 --> 00:06:16,120 Are you familiar with the term? 118 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:17,760 I've heard the term, yes. 119 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:23,160 And you know, when you told me about it, I kind of looked it up and I'd heard it before. 120 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,600 But I'm not to the level of detail. 121 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,000 I feel like you're about to be stow upon me, though. 122 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,400 Yeah, I really wish I didn't do all this research because this is going to be stuck in my head 123 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:32,400 forever. 124 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:36,000 Now, I'm worried that I'm going to come down with it. 125 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:42,680 So gang stalking, a case of the gang stalking. 126 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:47,060 So gang stalking or group stalking is a term referring to the alleged coordinated harassment 127 00:06:47,060 --> 00:06:51,940 of a victim known as a targeted individual or T.I. 128 00:06:51,940 --> 00:06:56,160 This is done by a large group of perpetrators often assumed to be employed by the U.S. government, 129 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:00,840 but could also be part of public companies, secret organizations, other national governments, 130 00:07:00,840 --> 00:07:08,520 or even in one case that I read about one particular religious organization. 131 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,760 So targeted individuals or T.I.s have an incredible list of experiences that they claim they are 132 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,400 subjected to. 133 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:19,960 Victims claim police harassment, such as police cars turning on their sirens, passing them 134 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,320 and then turning off their sirens. 135 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:30,440 Paid actors performing street theater or elaborately rehearsed interactions that seem normal while 136 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,800 they're surveilling the targeted individual. 137 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:40,160 They've also reported certain cars with dealership plates gathering in large groups to control 138 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:44,560 how fast the targeted individual can drive on the highway. 139 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:45,880 Wow. 140 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,160 Yeah. 141 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:51,760 And helicopter activity over their home and drones. 142 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:57,600 One man even claimed and this is without a doubt my favorite claim. 143 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:03,360 One man even claimed that someone shit in his bed. 144 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:04,360 But not him. 145 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:05,360 Nope. 146 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:06,360 Wasn't him. 147 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:10,480 And honestly, the interviewer had almost the same response. 148 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,160 Like he sure he sure wasn't you. 149 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,600 You didn't shit in your own bed. 150 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,820 So someone else did it and we don't know why. 151 00:08:19,820 --> 00:08:24,520 So if you were thinking this is all just mundane activities and maybe a response to a bad night 152 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:30,920 of drinking activities that we might all witness at one time or another, you would be right. 153 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,520 And according to targeted individuals, that is the point. 154 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,320 So imagine going to the police and suggesting that the poopies that you found in your bed 155 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:39,800 this morning and not your own. 156 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,080 Imagine trying to explain. 157 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:43,080 Yeah. 158 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,080 Yeah. 159 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:48,160 I mean, these days, I mean, you could probably do a DNA test or something, right? 160 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:49,160 Right. 161 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:50,160 Seriously. 162 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,120 Well, unfortunately, if you're that much into it, you know. 163 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,840 But unfortunately, this person reported this in 2017. 164 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,040 Okay. 165 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:04,040 So I'm like, just pay for a DNA test. 166 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,200 Like get a get one of those. 167 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,200 They make the test. 168 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:08,200 You can test your own poop. 169 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:09,200 Yeah. 170 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:10,200 Yeah. 171 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,520 Find out who belongs to where did this poop come from? 172 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:13,520 Yeah, exactly. 173 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,200 Who's poop? 174 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:19,040 Imagine you're trying to explain that that traffic on the highway was actually orchestrated 175 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,560 specifically to fuck with you. 176 00:09:21,560 --> 00:09:25,080 How do you convey that people seemingly going about their daily activities are actually 177 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:30,160 executing an intricately staged tableau in order to convince you that they are in fact 178 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:31,160 not watching you? 179 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:32,160 I don't know. 180 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:36,160 But Boston traffic, I might kind of be on their side. 181 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,040 It is a form of abuse. 182 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:39,840 I will agree with that. 183 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,440 So it could be very easy to dismiss these claims as crazy. 184 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:48,640 Well, not a DSM recognized mental illness diagnosis by itself, a number of mental illnesses 185 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:55,000 and disorders are linked to targeted individuals in 2015, a research paper on the phenomenon 186 00:09:55,000 --> 00:10:01,400 and the only academic paper available on the subject at the moment called complaints of 187 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:06,200 group stalking parentheses, gang stalking and exploratory study of the nature of the 188 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:10,200 impact on complainants, which is one hell of a title. 189 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:15,160 It's a real zinger published in the journal, forensic psychiatry and psychology. 190 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:21,720 Doctors, Lorraine Sheridan and David James conducted a blind interview of 1040 self-identified 191 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,240 victims of stalking. 192 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:30,400 Of those interviewed 128 of the self-identified victims purported to be victims of gang stalking. 193 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,280 Of this group, Sheridan and James concluded that 100% were exhibiting signs of delusional 194 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,360 thinking based on three criteria. 195 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,000 The first one is the sheer improbability of the behaviors they were reporting such as 196 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:46,840 large scale coordination of multiple surveillance agencies, civilian actors and media organizations. 197 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,520 Then we have the impossibility of some behaviors. 198 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:57,400 So those would include reports of voice to skull technology, mind control and witchcraft. 199 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:04,040 And finally, impossible and bizarre such as the family dog being replaced with an exact 200 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:10,920 double, but the double has a foul temper or remote enlargement of bodily organs. 201 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:11,920 Yeah. 202 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:12,920 Yeah. 203 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:18,680 I mean, I feel for these people, but that's, that's a tough one. 204 00:11:18,680 --> 00:11:20,840 That's like, that's really difficult to. 205 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:21,840 Yeah. 206 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,160 You just want, you wonder if it's, I mean, you talk about the family dog, like what if 207 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,880 the dog just was just having a bad day, right? 208 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:33,400 Well the dog got old and started to, you know, I'm not making fun of this. 209 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:34,400 I'm serious. 210 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,000 I'm gonna say like dog dementia or something. 211 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,360 And the dog doesn't act like it used to because it's older and it's exactly, exactly. 212 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,040 Any number of factors could have contributed. 213 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:44,040 Maybe the dog's sick. 214 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:45,040 Right. 215 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:46,040 Right. 216 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:50,760 So in comparison, only a little more than 10% of the traditional stalking victims were 217 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,560 deemed to be suffering from some kind of delusion. 218 00:11:54,560 --> 00:11:57,080 So that's like, it was like 900 people. 219 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:58,960 So only it was like 117. 220 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:00,960 So a little more than 10%. 221 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:01,960 Hmm. 222 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:02,960 All right. 223 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:08,480 And the way the study was done is they, they kind of opened up a website and had people 224 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:14,480 report into it whatever they experienced, whatever their experiences were from a list 225 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,880 of experiences. 226 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:22,200 And so that's kind of how they figured out who, you know, was gang stalking and who wasn't. 227 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:26,680 There was a bunch of other differences too that I'll get into here in a minute. 228 00:12:26,680 --> 00:12:31,480 But in addition, these alleged targeted individuals suffered from depression, mistrust, anxiety 229 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,200 and aggression more than the respondents who are victims of the more traditionally understood 230 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:36,760 instances of stalking. 231 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:37,760 Okay. 232 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,320 I know that that kind of makes sense. 233 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:47,800 Women actually surprisingly suffered largely far more than males when it came to gang stalking. 234 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,320 Okay. 235 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:54,600 So women, they made up 75% of the 128. 236 00:12:54,600 --> 00:13:00,480 That's a pretty stark contrast. 237 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,120 So I watched a few documentaries and videos on gang stalking available on YouTube and 238 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:10,360 a number of targeted individuals reported diagnoses of bipolar disorder and schizophrenia. 239 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:15,040 And they were diagnosed with this either before or during their ordeal. 240 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,880 So I would recommend two videos made by vice and one made by Dr. Todd Grande. 241 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:23,880 If you just go into YouTube, type in gang stalking. 242 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,760 These are the ones that I would recommend watching because they're really fascinating. 243 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:31,400 Now there are a number of treatments available for people who suffer from these symptoms. 244 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:37,760 An article on gang stalking by MIT's technology review titled, Am I going crazy or am I being 245 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:42,360 stalked inside the disturbing online world of gang stalking? 246 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:47,320 Author Amelia Tate cites former targeted individuals reporting total relief from gang stalking 247 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:53,320 symptoms after being given therapeutic treatments, including psychiatric drugs. 248 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:58,040 Unfortunately, this is where the true tragedy of being a targeted individual unfolds. 249 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:02,240 Targeted individuals insist they are not suffering from mental illness, thus making it practically 250 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:06,600 impossible for them to get the treatment that they could benefit from. 251 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,600 Yeah, no, that sounds like the worst case of it. 252 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:11,600 Yeah. 253 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,240 Now this denial of the need for treatment has alienated targeted individuals from their 254 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,680 friends and family, which would make sense, right? 255 00:14:17,680 --> 00:14:18,680 Right. 256 00:14:18,680 --> 00:14:21,600 You're trying to get somebody help, you know that they're saying things that don't sound 257 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,880 right, things that are delusional, and they're aggressive and they're pushing back on you. 258 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,000 So you have to push them away. 259 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,840 One targeted individual identified only as Jenny became so hostile to her brother and 260 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:36,000 his son that he had to take out a restraining order on her. 261 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,000 Jesus. 262 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:41,160 But without treatment and trusted people in their lives, targeted individuals find comfort 263 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,500 in community in the worst possible place. 264 00:14:44,500 --> 00:14:45,500 Social media. 265 00:14:45,500 --> 00:14:46,500 Oh God, yeah. 266 00:14:46,500 --> 00:14:47,500 Yeah, it's bad. 267 00:14:47,500 --> 00:14:49,200 We didn't even talk about that yet. 268 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:50,820 No, man, it gets real bad. 269 00:14:50,820 --> 00:14:54,920 So groups of targeted individuals are congregating across multiple platforms such as Twitter, 270 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:56,680 Facebook, and Reddit. 271 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,120 Here alleged victims share stories and encouragement. 272 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:03,080 However, these communities have a host of problems all their own. 273 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:07,420 One Facebook group has 22,000 users, which goes a long way to convince an increasingly 274 00:15:07,420 --> 00:15:10,160 isolated person that they're not alone. 275 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,660 These groups often come together to dissuade members from seeking treatment. 276 00:15:13,660 --> 00:15:18,160 Worst of all, members of these groups regularly encourage other members to confront those 277 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:19,160 that are targeting them. 278 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,200 And how is that done? 279 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,360 They literally go up and they start yelling at them. 280 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:24,360 They threaten them. 281 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,040 So this guy, he was an interesting case. 282 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:33,040 So he was reporting an instance of cause stalking, which is an offshoot of gang stalking where 283 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,720 he was being gang stalked for his political views. 284 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,400 He was just a very active person in the gay community. 285 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,600 And he had assumed he was the guy mentioned who believed he was being targeted by a religious 286 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:45,600 organization. 287 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:49,800 So this gentleman, he was in the traffic situation that I talked about and he was pepper spraying 288 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,720 and spray painting cars on the highway. 289 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,800 Oh my God. 290 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,160 Yeah. 291 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,280 Little out of control. 292 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:02,160 Another thing that they were telling him to do, this sometimes resulted in police officers 293 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,240 being followed by targeted individuals. 294 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:05,240 Might not end well. 295 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:06,240 You know what I mean? 296 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:07,240 Yeah, no. 297 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:08,240 Chasing cops around and stuff. 298 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,680 Probably not going to go well for you. 299 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:18,560 Social media is not the only place where targeted individuals find strength. 300 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,120 Some are also prolific on video sharing sites like YouTube. 301 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:27,400 One user's vlog showed dust on his car and claimed it was nanotechnology employed to track 302 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,080 his movements. 303 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:35,000 Another dedicates his channel to finding hidden clues that reveal our reptilian overlords 304 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:40,520 via screenshot of news segments in action scenes from films like the Matrix. 305 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:46,560 So what he was doing is he was watching video scenes of the Matrix and then, you know, you're 306 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:47,960 watching, what is it? 307 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:53,240 Like 20 frames per second for something on YouTube, like a video. 308 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,360 Most of the time. 309 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:56,360 Yeah. 310 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:57,360 30. 311 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:04,760 So he was catching where the frames were blurring movement and then insisting that they were 312 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:11,440 transforming into like reptilians when really it was just the frames not catching up. 313 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,400 And so there was blur. 314 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:21,920 Is this how we kind of arrived at this conspiracy theory type, conspiracy theory-esque, I don't 315 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:26,680 know what the word I'm looking for is, but how that's more prevalent in kind of today's 316 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:27,680 society. 317 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,400 Everything's about conspiracy theories. 318 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,760 Well that's because information is more readily available. 319 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,600 So there's more ideas out there. 320 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,840 You know, you get some 20 year old kid who thinks they might be experiencing, you know, 321 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:38,840 they're a little paranoid. 322 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:39,920 They might be experiencing something. 323 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,760 Let's say, you know, they're walking through school and a kid bumps into them and doesn't 324 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,280 say anything. 325 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:51,920 Or you know, maybe they trip over their shoelace, but they didn't notice that their shoe was 326 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,600 untied. 327 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,680 They might start thinking they might have delusions that somebody deliberately untied 328 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:02,560 their shoe and that kid bumped into them on purpose to mess with them. 329 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,000 Before you might just kind of ruminate for a little while and then be like, you know 330 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,520 what, I'm probably wrong. 331 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:12,960 But now you can go online and type in these kinds of symptoms and you've got a community 332 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:21,720 across platforms that is there to support and encourage you and tell you not to believe 333 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:26,640 what other people are telling you and that you are being gang stalked. 334 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:30,400 Another one of the vice documentaries, there was a gentleman who believed that he had been 335 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:37,920 magnetized and so he would take a magnet and stick it to his skin and because skin can 336 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:44,040 sometimes hold a little moisture when it's warmer out, the magnet stuck to him. 337 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:49,740 The reporter took the magnet and stuck it to his own skin and instead of the man starting 338 00:18:49,740 --> 00:18:53,960 to question his theory that he was magnetized, he started to believe that the reporter was 339 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,200 also a targeted individual. 340 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,200 Well, yeah, of course. 341 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:58,200 Yeah. 342 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:04,120 So, so the internet's effect on people suffering from persecutory delusional ideations is like 343 00:19:04,120 --> 00:19:06,120 pouring gasoline on a fire. 344 00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:11,240 One mental health professional explained that delusions as defined are thoughts that are 345 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,400 outside of social norms. 346 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:17,640 So he went on to ask, how can you convince someone that they're suffering from delusions 347 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:23,100 when they're part of a community that's 22,000 people strong and they all held the same or 348 00:19:23,100 --> 00:19:24,100 similar beliefs? 349 00:19:24,100 --> 00:19:25,100 Yeah. 350 00:19:25,100 --> 00:19:26,100 Yeah. 351 00:19:26,100 --> 00:19:27,100 It's challenging. 352 00:19:27,100 --> 00:19:30,120 I mean, how do you tell somebody that what they're doing is not right when everyone else 353 00:19:30,120 --> 00:19:31,440 is telling them that they are right? 354 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:36,200 Especially like one person fighting against this giant crowd and this community has become 355 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:37,980 so insular and cult-like. 356 00:19:37,980 --> 00:19:41,560 One solid example of this is a shared language adopted by targeted individuals. 357 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:46,220 Some examples of their exclusive vocabulary include voice to skull technology. 358 00:19:46,220 --> 00:19:50,320 That's when, when someone's voice is implanted directly in your skull so you can hear them 359 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,320 talking in your head. 360 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:53,840 Okay. 361 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:54,840 Energy weapons. 362 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,480 No definition there. 363 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:02,640 Electromagnetic radiation, apparently this is directional radiation. 364 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:07,680 So it's like aimed at you, but only you specifically. 365 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:14,280 And then microwave technology, again, not a ton of followup as to what that really means. 366 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,980 What I'm finding is that a lot of these things like energy weapons, electromagnetic radiation 367 00:20:17,980 --> 00:20:25,680 and microwave technology, they're just reasons applied to random symptoms like nausea and 368 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:26,680 stuff. 369 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:35,160 And I mean, there's a lot of people who, you know, call it the tinfoil hat crowd who believe 370 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:40,480 all this sort of stuff to may not necessarily be targeted individuals. 371 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,640 I mean, it's kind of funny that you mentioned tinfoil because in the vice documentary that 372 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:51,120 they did in England, the woman pulled out tinfoil, made a joke about tinfoil hats and 373 00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:55,520 then said that it does help her temporarily, but it's not a long-term solution. 374 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,480 It's really sad. 375 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,200 I mean, it's funny, but it's also, you know, it's also a little sad. 376 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:04,440 Like it's this poor person is wearing a tinfoil hat because they believe they're being targeted 377 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,240 by stuff when really it could just be psychos. 378 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,240 It could be anything. 379 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:08,240 Yeah. 380 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:16,600 Some of the other, some of the other afflictions attributed to these folks are nausea, hearing 381 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:22,040 voices, hearing messages communicated through the television and the radio, sometimes hearing 382 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:26,760 horn honks after certain words are said on the radio and they believe that that is highlighting 383 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,040 that that word in the radio is important. 384 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,440 Becoming magnetized, as I mentioned, hearing clicks on the phone line, which coincide with 385 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,720 certain topics being mentioned in instance of street theater, in instances of street 386 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:38,800 theater to name a few. 387 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:39,800 So these are just a few symptoms. 388 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,440 And the sufferers of this phenomenon are clearly unprepared and unwilling to understand the 389 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:44,440 situation. 390 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:49,160 I certainly can't judge them or their perception of reality, but I can and will judge the fuck 391 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:53,400 out of assholes who say who kind of yes and the situation for their own benefit. 392 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:54,400 Yeah. 393 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:55,720 Which is perennial shit whistle. 394 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:56,720 Alex Jones. 395 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,520 He's on a number of occasions signalling his support for this community in his various 396 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,920 rantings. 397 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:09,040 Another less conspicuous dickhole fed into this delusion by way of anonymous shit posting 398 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:14,000 this steaming pile of nonsense was a post titled confessions of a gang stalker. 399 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:18,120 Just as a title suggests some fucking nitwit gleefully described how he goes about gang 400 00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:22,440 stalking people, which only reassures the already rampant confirmation bias in this 401 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:23,440 space. 402 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:24,440 Yeah. 403 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,720 And of course it is a well fit for everyone. 404 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,240 That's probably more than just him too. 405 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:29,240 Yeah. 406 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:34,040 And you know, it's some 4chan nerd who has never left his house and he's just like, oh 407 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,040 man, I'm totally going to go viral with this. 408 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,040 Yeah. 409 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,600 And he's just writing gang stalker fiction. 410 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:40,840 Yeah, that's exactly it. 411 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:41,840 It's just fan fiction. 412 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:48,360 Um, another, and other charlatans inadvertently charlatans inadvertently feed the flames when 413 00:22:48,360 --> 00:22:53,200 they promote bullshit like vaccine denial, chem trails, the dangers of fluoride in the 414 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:57,520 water supply, reptilians, and of course 5g. 415 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,680 So once you're willing to believe that someone else shit in your bed, it's not a far leap 416 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,240 to believe that your cell phone caused COVID. 417 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:08,400 Yeah, that's a great way of putting it. 418 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:09,400 Yeah. 419 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,000 It might be easy to dismiss, dismiss gang stalking as a sad yet quirky corner of the 420 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,640 conspiracy theory community. 421 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,640 However, the darkness doesn't stop at the alienation, delusion, and shouting at cops. 422 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,680 A small portion of targeted individuals have taken far more drastic action. 423 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,880 Jenny, who I mentioned before, did seek and receive treatment. 424 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,200 So for about six years, she actually turned her life around and even became a board member 425 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,720 for the national organization for women while also working for the national association 426 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:35,720 of mental illness. 427 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:42,160 Sadly, her recovery did not last and she took her own life in 2017. 428 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,440 Others chose to attack those who they perceived were targeting them. 429 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:50,200 In 2013, Aaron Alexis killed 12 people in the Washington Navy yard and wounded another 430 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:51,200 three. 431 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,520 He had written messages consistent with gang stalking vocabulary on the butt of a shotgun. 432 00:23:55,520 --> 00:24:01,260 Myron May, a Texas tech educated lawyer, wounded three people in a university library because 433 00:24:01,260 --> 00:24:04,640 he was being targeted by supposed energy weapons. 434 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,320 And then Gavin Long ambushed and killed three police officers in response to the Alton Brown 435 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:13,200 shooting but long also identified as a targeted individual. 436 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:20,560 So I know this is all depressing, but it's not all that I saved the good news for the 437 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:21,560 end. 438 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:22,560 Okay. 439 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,680 There's little we can do to address the issue caused by the prevalence of gang stalking. 440 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:26,680 There is hope. 441 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,020 There's a growing community of people who have sought and received effective treatment 442 00:24:30,020 --> 00:24:31,320 for gang stalking. 443 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,800 These people are regularly posting about their recovery in gang stalking groups on Reddit, 444 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,960 Facebook and Twitter. 445 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:44,280 While many members publicly deride their effort as yet another form of harassment by the various 446 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:49,520 establishment boogeyman, privately those in recovery are receiving private messages from 447 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,480 TIs requesting resources. 448 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,440 Now we can help in these efforts as well by simply calling out misinformation when we 449 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:57,440 see it. 450 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,440 And if you know what's called bullshit on post from chuckle fucks like Elon Musk and 451 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:02,440 RFK Jr. 452 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:07,400 Maybe one day a T I will discover a tightly coiled dookie in his bed and seek the medical 453 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,040 attention he so desperately needs. 454 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,480 Yeah. 455 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:13,480 That's gang stalking. 456 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:14,480 Wow. 457 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:19,680 I think there's a lot of that stuff in there that I never would have associated with gang 458 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:20,680 stalking. 459 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:21,680 Yeah. 460 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:22,680 You kind of in the way in the real world every day. 461 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,400 So I mean, that's what's so insidious about it. 462 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,080 It's literally just regular shit that happens to all of us. 463 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:35,280 But they're seeing it as a symbol or a symptom of a larger problem. 464 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,880 There was so much in the documentaries that I watched. 465 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:44,440 And it in the paper that I read that MIT article was fascinating. 466 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,440 One of the things I also found encouraging is when I when I did a Google search for gang 467 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,880 stalking, none of those forums showed up. 468 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:58,960 It was all articles and commentaries and videos on on what it is and why it's bad. 469 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,700 So I mean, that's that's a bit of a relief. 470 00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:06,280 You didn't visit any of the Reddit communities. 471 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,340 No, I didn't. 472 00:26:08,340 --> 00:26:12,320 And they actually really discourage people from going into those communities. 473 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,800 And last year, somebody who's who's suffered from gang stalking kind of found your way 474 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:16,800 out. 475 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:17,800 Yeah. 476 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,700 Because they really do believe that it's kind of a contagious thing. 477 00:26:20,700 --> 00:26:25,800 So if you are if you are already a paranoid person, you're only going to become more paranoid 478 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:31,560 by going into a community where everyone else is just as paranoid as you are. 479 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:32,560 Yeah. 480 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,040 And you're sitting there just going down the rabbit hole and reading everybody's stories 481 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,080 and going, oh, my God, maybe that's happening. 482 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,560 Maybe that's what's happening to me. 483 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:39,560 Exactly. 484 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:40,840 That's exactly what I flipped me off today. 485 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:41,840 You know? 486 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:42,840 Yeah, exactly. 487 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:43,840 Yeah. 488 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:50,680 So, yeah, I mean, I I actually one of the things that I read about that I didn't touch 489 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,200 on too much, I talked about surgical implants. 490 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:54,200 Yeah. 491 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,800 Some of these folks believe that they're having they have surgical implants. 492 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,160 I was in our local grocery store. 493 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,160 You know the one. 494 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,160 Yeah. 495 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,040 And while I was in the grocery store, there was a woman this was a couple of years ago. 496 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,280 There was a woman who had plastic bags on her feet. 497 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,720 This is pre covid like 2019. 498 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,920 And she was wearing rubber gloves. 499 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,720 And other than that, she was completely she seemed completely normal. 500 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,640 Like I didn't notice the plastic bags on her feet and a lot of people when they go grocery 501 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,800 shopping, they wear rubber gloves because they were just weird about germs. 502 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:25,800 And that's fine. 503 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,840 You know, a lot of people are uncomfortable with germs. 504 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:34,120 But as she's standing there, she starts moving her feet. 505 00:27:34,120 --> 00:27:37,200 And then I hear the crinkling of the plastic bags and I just kind of glanced down because 506 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,320 I thought maybe she was stepping on one and she's, you know, wearing them on her feet. 507 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,840 And she apologized to me immediately and then said it was the nanotechnology. 508 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,640 She's like, it's it's the nanotechnology. 509 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,000 And I was like, oh, I was polite. 510 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,000 You know, I didn't. 511 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,520 But I could I could tell something was wrong. 512 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:59,160 Now, I didn't apply that to gang stalking because it just wasn't, you know, well versed 513 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,160 on it at the time. 514 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,160 I had heard of it, but I didn't know much about it. 515 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:07,720 But yeah, I mean, think of how many homeless people because you can't maintain a job when 516 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,960 you have an illness like this. 517 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:10,960 Right. 518 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:17,560 And so think of how many homeless people are probably only homeless because they they suffer 519 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,000 from these delusions. 520 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,920 And maybe they're spending the only money they have on a cell phone so they can keep 521 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:26,000 in touch with that one community that's keeping them going. 522 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,200 Because one thing I will say about the gang stalking community, as bad as the sort of 523 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:37,000 group think around it is these folks are helping each other at least avoid taking their own 524 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,000 lives. 525 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,240 They're really encouraging people not to do that. 526 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:45,480 And there's a there's a lot of respect shown when someone loses their life. 527 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:52,400 Unfortunately, the anger is not on an untreated illness in a country where 60 percent of counties 528 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,440 don't have any sort of psychological treatment. 529 00:28:55,440 --> 00:29:01,520 Instead, the anger is towards the government, but for the wrong reasons. 530 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:08,160 Are the communities trying to help each other not be violent towards other people, too? 531 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,160 Or are they? 532 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,160 No, that's the downside. 533 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,160 They're really encouraging. 534 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,120 They're not encouraging violence, but they're encouraging aggression. 535 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,600 And I mean, that's only going to escalate, you know. 536 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,560 But they do make sure to encourage people not to hurt themselves. 537 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:22,820 It's kind of like a don't give up. 538 00:29:22,820 --> 00:29:25,160 Don't let the bastards win, that sort of thing. 539 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,160 Yeah. 540 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,160 So it's it's a really it's really a mixed bag. 541 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,680 I was going into this thinking it was going to be some like crazy wackadoo thing like 542 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,940 flat earth where you can just make fun of everybody. 543 00:29:34,940 --> 00:29:40,480 But I was immediately dissuaded from that. 544 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,920 In fact, I there was one woman she was really the one that stood out to me the most and 545 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,460 kind of changed my whole approach to this thing. 546 00:29:47,460 --> 00:29:52,440 She doesn't tell anyone that she's being gang stalked because she knows it's crazy. 547 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:57,800 Oh, but she doesn't know that it's because of delusions. 548 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:58,800 She knows it's happening. 549 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,200 She just doesn't know how to articulate what's happening to her. 550 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,200 Wow. 551 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:10,920 Now, it's estimated that about 13, 12 to 13 percent of people suffer from it. 552 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,720 Now, the tough part is these are people who are self reporting. 553 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:19,600 And this could also be people who, you know, could be making it up. 554 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:20,780 Same problem with flat earth. 555 00:30:20,780 --> 00:30:24,240 You know, we have people that just say they believe it because that's funny to them. 556 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,480 Right. 557 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,200 But the study that was done. 558 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:33,240 Now, very small sample size of one thousand forty people is pretty consistent with the 559 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,360 other reporting that they were that they're seeing in other sources. 560 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:37,360 Yeah. 561 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,080 Which is between 12 and 13 percent. 562 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:46,120 So there's probably people we know right now in our lives that are suffering from this, 563 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,640 but they probably just keep it well hidden because they're not too far along yet. 564 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:50,640 Yeah. 565 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,200 Well, they don't really know what it is. 566 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,200 And they're just. 567 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,200 Yeah. 568 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,200 That's exactly it. 569 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,520 They don't know what it is and they might be a part of that community, but they also 570 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,920 realize that, like, you know, you got to have your job. 571 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:01,960 Right. 572 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,740 And these people do claim to have pretty debilitating illnesses. 573 00:31:04,740 --> 00:31:08,600 One final thing that I'll leave you with and then we can move off this unbelievably depressing 574 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:16,800 topic is there was one guy who had he had an X-ray with a little anomaly on it and he 575 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:22,520 had he was convinced that that anomaly was something implanted in his body. 576 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:27,160 He says that his dentist did the X-ray and his dentist said it was also an implant. 577 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:33,960 However, this guy also was sectioned for two months for yelling at the sky and digging 578 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,680 in a park in London. 579 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:36,680 Oh. 580 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,440 And he says he wasn't doing that. 581 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,840 So it's very hard to kind of take what he's saying is reality. 582 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,000 Right. 583 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,460 And I'll tell you why that's even more of a problem, why his version of reality might 584 00:31:47,460 --> 00:31:49,320 be a little out of control. 585 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:56,120 He provided a letter that his doctor had given him and they read the letter all the way through. 586 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,960 And essentially, the doctor said, you know, I'm afraid you might be suffering from mental 587 00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:00,960 illness. 588 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,100 Of course, I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. 589 00:32:04,100 --> 00:32:07,760 And then later in the letter, he said, you know, I'm just not convinced that you have 590 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,920 an implant in you. 591 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:16,600 And the guy basically did a Lloyd from Dumb and Dumber and was like, so you say and I 592 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:17,600 can convince you. 593 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,720 And that's what he took away from the whole thing. 594 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:22,800 So it was really sad. 595 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:27,480 It's really sad because it's just it's really hard to get them out. 596 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,760 But I think the only people who are really going to be effective at getting them out 597 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:35,840 are very well trained professionals, but also people who are in the community who have gotten 598 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,760 out and sought treatment and are living a much better, healthier life anyway. 599 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:40,760 Yeah. 600 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,840 Now that that horribly depressing thing is out of the way, sorry to drop that nuke on 601 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,660 you. 602 00:32:46,660 --> 00:32:51,160 If you are experiencing gang stalking, please reach out to a mental health professional, 603 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,920 even if you don't believe me, even if you think that they're on the side of the bad 604 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,680 guys, hear them out. 605 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:56,680 Listen to their arguments. 606 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:57,680 Maybe they know what they're talking about. 607 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:02,000 Yeah, it's the only thing you can do. 608 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,000 All right. 609 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,520 Mayda, do you have anything you want to plug? 610 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,840 You can check out the Citizen's Guide to the Super Normal podcast. 611 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,440 Yeah, we just released an episode last month. 612 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,160 Yeah, it's 2025. 613 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,240 Should there be some more fun stuff to talk about over there? 614 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,800 We are looking to pump out some shenanigans for sure. 615 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:22,800 Yes. 616 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,600 Especially now that I have this gorgeous microphone. 617 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:25,600 Yes. 618 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:26,600 Yes. 619 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:31,120 I am ready and it will plug into our soundboard, which will be really helpful because my other 620 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,440 microphone was just USB-C. 621 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:33,440 Wow. 622 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:34,440 I mean, look at this. 623 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,440 2020. 624 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,800 We're moving up in the world. 625 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:37,800 I'm portable now. 626 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:38,800 I'm ready to go. 627 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:43,280 I have a feeling this year is going to generate a whole bunch of weird stuff to talk about. 628 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,400 We'll have plenty to talk about. 629 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:46,400 All right. 630 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,360 So if you like the show, if you like us, Google Cryptid Cocktail Party. 631 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,360 You can find us on Instagram, on Blue Sky. 632 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:59,320 We have a Twitter, but I mean, everyone's given up on that by now. 633 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:05,560 You can also find my link to all my stuff through the Cryptid Cocktail Party Instagram. 634 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,080 And if you like coloring books, I made one. 635 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,640 It was kind of a thing I only expected to last a couple of months, but then a bunch 636 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,000 of morons elected a known felon. 637 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,280 So you can just keep buying that coloring book because it's still relevant. 638 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,120 That'll be 9.99 at SagesSuperNormal.com. 639 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,600 So there's two S's right next to each other. 640 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:26,600 SagesSuperNormal.com. 641 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,080 Coloring books, 9.99. 642 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,680 Take your right to the Amazon page. 643 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:37,880 You can do some activities like crossword puzzles or you can just roll it up and beat 644 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:38,880 your neighbor with it. 645 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:39,880 I don't care anymore. 646 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,400 It's a picture of me and you can color too. 647 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,280 Oh, there are a couple of pictures of Maynard down there. 648 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,800 He is looking snazzy as fuck, I might say. 649 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:53,800 So Maynard, did you want to say goodbye and I love you to the audience? 650 00:34:53,800 --> 00:35:10,600 Goodbye and I love you.