1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:27,800 Welcome back everybody to another episode of Cryptic Cocktail Party, a show where we 2 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,760 have a few drinks, share a few laughs, take a dive into the unknown. 3 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,600 I'm your host Dave, joined as always by my wonderful co-host Sarge. 4 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:34,600 How's it going Sarge? 5 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:35,600 Yo! 6 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,840 And we also have a very special guest today. 7 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,360 Joining us all the way from Chicago, Illinois is Jordan Holmes of Knowledge Fight. 8 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:42,360 What's going on man? 9 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:43,360 Yes, hello! 10 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,800 This is the sound of my voice. 11 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:55,000 I am from the podcast Knowledge Fight, where I make similar noises for a large audience. 12 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,920 Yeah, definitely larger than ours. 13 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:01,680 I don't know if I would admit to making similar noises until you hear the noises we make, 14 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,240 because sometimes, especially Dave. 15 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:13,640 I mean, I'm a bit of a minor bird when it comes to mimicking the sounds of thinking 16 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:14,640 apes. 17 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:22,400 I'm more of an animal of instinct and survival, but you know, who knows. 18 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:23,720 We'll see how this goes. 19 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:24,720 Okay. 20 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,520 I like the minor bird reference. 21 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:27,520 So what's going on man? 22 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:28,520 How are things going? 23 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:29,520 How's life? 24 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:30,520 How are things? 25 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:36,520 I mean, still bad at small talk. 26 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,520 Sorry. 27 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,840 That's my new, that's my, how's it going? 28 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:42,840 It's all right. 29 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:43,840 It's not good. 30 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:44,840 It's great. 31 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:45,840 It's bad. 32 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:46,840 They're all the same to me. 33 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:47,840 Stuff is still bad at small talk. 34 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,440 Things are definitely happening in life. 35 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:51,440 All right. 36 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:52,440 So, absolutely. 37 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:53,720 They have yet to stop. 38 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:54,720 All right. 39 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:55,720 Well, how about this? 40 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:56,920 This is an easy question. 41 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,320 Are you like a cryptids folklore kind of guy? 42 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:00,920 Like is that kind of your realm or? 43 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:02,160 No, absolutely not. 44 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:09,760 I find it all, it's so very strange because I've lived in a very specific world for such 45 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:17,640 a long time that it's sometimes difficult to remember my identity outside of this magical 46 00:02:17,640 --> 00:02:23,360 land of Alex Jones that I've found myself trapped in, but I actually don't care. 47 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:24,360 Okay. 48 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:25,880 That's so valid. 49 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:31,640 Like, you know, like sometimes when I remember, when I go deep inside of my own head, I remind 50 00:02:31,640 --> 00:02:36,200 I reminded that like, oh, I don't give a shit about conspiracies at all. 51 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,040 I don't care about Bigfoot at all. 52 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:40,040 Don't care. 53 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:41,800 Don't give a shit whatsoever. 54 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:46,480 So that's probably what my greatest skill is. 55 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,360 A general apathy towards all interesting things. 56 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:51,360 Okay. 57 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,480 That's that'll actually help you for most cryptids. 58 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:55,480 Yeah. 59 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,840 We actually covered your favorite cryptid last week. 60 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,040 The Squatch. 61 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:00,800 We covered a little Alex Jones. 62 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:01,800 Oh, okay. 63 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:02,800 I got you. 64 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:03,800 Yeah. 65 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:04,800 Yeah. 66 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,680 This is going to look real weird because I did not expect you to say yes immediately 67 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,520 after us doing an Alex Jones episode. 68 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,040 Like, oh, they're going to think we're in cahoots or some shit like that. 69 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,040 Never. 70 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:14,480 I hate to end. 71 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,840 In fact, actually, I mean to insult your show. 72 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:17,840 Never listen. 73 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:18,840 Sorry. 74 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:19,840 That's okay. 75 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:20,840 I would not have missed that. 76 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:21,840 You know what? 77 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,560 To your face, I have to say it. 78 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,320 I've never listened to your show and I'm probably not going to listen to this one. 79 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:28,320 That's fine. 80 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:29,320 That's all right. 81 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:30,320 All right. 82 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:31,920 So you guys ready to dive into this? 83 00:03:31,920 --> 00:03:32,920 Yeah. 84 00:03:32,920 --> 00:03:33,920 All right. 85 00:03:33,920 --> 00:03:37,840 So this episode is going to be coming out like the Monday before Thanksgiving and Sarge, 86 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:42,280 you requested that I find a cryptid or some sort of like folkloric beast that was essentially 87 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:43,560 like a big bird or something. 88 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:44,560 I'm assuming. 89 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,280 Nothing says America like eating a giant bird. 90 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,920 Well, there's like there are a ton of creatures in folklore and like cryptids that are basically 91 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,840 just giant birds are close to it. 92 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:59,040 But the real gnarly ones that would have been even like remotely interesting to talk about, 93 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,460 they all come from Native American culture. 94 00:04:01,460 --> 00:04:05,280 And while we have covered Native American folklore in the past, things like Pukwudgies, 95 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:10,720 the Wendigo and so on, I thought it'd be kind of distasteful for three white dudes in their 96 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,720 late thirties, early forties to crack jokes about Native American legends. 97 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:15,720 Yeah. 98 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,160 Like wicked distasteful. 99 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,000 This time of year, really a poor choice. 100 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:26,760 I bet one of you has read a Neil Gaiman novel, so you're totally fine talking about the religion 101 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:31,520 of native cultures as a as a British decision. 102 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:32,520 Wow. 103 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:37,640 You you really caught me on that one, actually. 104 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:38,960 I spent a week here. 105 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:40,800 I think I can do it. 106 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:41,800 Yeah. 107 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,840 I really did just start watching Sandman. 108 00:04:43,840 --> 00:04:45,720 So that's that hits close to home. 109 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,640 Oh, that's the white in you. 110 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:50,640 Right. 111 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,000 But I mean, that's all that I have is white. 112 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:59,760 So well, I think I think I found a good compromise that we can all feel good about. 113 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,320 Sarge gets his big bird kind of thing in our white consciousness can rest easy because 114 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,960 this week recovering some Slavic folklore that most people might be familiar with, but 115 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,520 may not know the full scape of. 116 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:11,520 So Baba Yaga. 117 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,800 She's I don't think she's a Baba Yaga. 118 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:22,080 No, the Baba Yaga, though, has a house with stilts or with feet of a giant chicken. 119 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:23,080 It's possible. 120 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,080 It's not chicken. 121 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:25,080 It's it's something like that. 122 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:29,480 But the Baba Yaga's house is a is a ambulatory beast of its own. 123 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,360 I'm very excited about this because I have not I've heard of the Baba Yaga, but I was 124 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,040 not aware of the chicken house. 125 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:36,680 So I don't know why I know this. 126 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,720 We haven't even confirmed that it is Baba Yaga yet. 127 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:39,720 All right. 128 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:40,720 So is it Baba Yaga? 129 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,000 And he's like, OK, so anyway, the Baba Yaga. 130 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:48,240 Well, I went really hard on the on the like I wrote the reveal of this. 131 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:49,240 So just let me get through that. 132 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:50,240 And then 133 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:51,240 Great. 134 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:57,800 We bring on we bring on the guy from the big show. 135 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,520 He runs in five seconds. 136 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:00,520 Awesome. 137 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:01,520 Really excited about that. 138 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:06,920 I like I like how that belies my whole previous answer where I'm like, oh, yeah, by the way, 139 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,200 I could just rattle off all this shit. 140 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:10,920 Top of my head. 141 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:12,840 Oh, is the Baba Yaga is that what we're talking about? 142 00:06:12,840 --> 00:06:17,160 I don't give what other regions about cryptids, by the way. 143 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,960 Oh, is this a Lebanese folk tale? 144 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:24,160 Yeah, I recall that when I was when I was traveling in the past. 145 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:25,160 All right. 146 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,920 Well, I'm really I'm really proud of how I wrote this build up. 147 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:28,920 So yes, it is about. 148 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:29,920 Yeah. 149 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:30,920 Let me get this. 150 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:31,920 I apologize. 151 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:32,920 I apologize. 152 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:33,920 It's fine. 153 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:34,920 Perfusely. 154 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:40,000 In the deepest part of the forest, where the trees twist like withered hands and the air 155 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,920 grows unnaturally still, there lives a legend. 156 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:48,200 Travelers through these forests speak of strange sounds, a scraping, shuffling noise like claws 157 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:53,160 raking the ground and glimpses of something unnatural moving between the shadows. 158 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:54,760 They say her dwelling is alive. 159 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:55,760 Fuck yeah. 160 00:06:55,760 --> 00:07:01,680 A graveyard of secrets ringed with bones lit by skulls and filled with the thick black 161 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,480 scent of death. 162 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,760 By the way, something ancient, something both cruel and wise, a being who could just as 163 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,960 easily offer salvation as destruction. 164 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,200 She tests those foolish enough to seek her out and her rewards. 165 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:19,080 If you survive or as extraordinary as her punishments are final, but be warned, she 166 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,240 does not suffer timid or lazy. 167 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,580 And her hunger is as legendary as her power. 168 00:07:23,580 --> 00:07:28,160 They call her the witch of the woods, the devourer of the weak, the keeper of impossible 169 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:29,160 wisdom. 170 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:30,640 This week, gentlemen, you guessed it. 171 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,640 We are covering Baba Yaga. 172 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,040 Yes, Baba Yaga. 173 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:39,560 It was a good buildup, even with even already knowing what it was. 174 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:40,560 It was a good buildup. 175 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,160 I like I went so hard on that for no reason. 176 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:44,160 Yeah. 177 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,640 Well, what I like is you couldn't have found a more obscure thing. 178 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,640 And he's like, I don't know anything about crypt. 179 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:49,640 Oh, yeah. 180 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,480 No, I totally know this story entirely. 181 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,520 Well, I guess the big the big bird kind of probably gave it away and Slavic. 182 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:56,520 It kind of. 183 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:57,520 Yeah. 184 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:58,520 Yeah. 185 00:07:58,520 --> 00:07:59,520 Big Bird and Slavic. 186 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,880 There's really there's really only one option because I. 187 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,640 It just really is only one. 188 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,360 So they don't. 189 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:10,120 It's not like they have ostriches to base their other regular myths off of. 190 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,160 That's they're they're trapped with no giant birds. 191 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:17,760 So how familiar are either of you guys with like the full story of Baba Yaga? 192 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,520 You obviously know the house with the chicken leg. 193 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:20,840 Sarge, you kind of have an idea. 194 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,120 But like how like. 195 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,200 I know nothing about Baba Yaga to be honest with you. 196 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:28,000 I keep getting confused with whatever they call Keanu Reeves in the John Wick movies. 197 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,600 It is Baba Yaga in John Wick. 198 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,000 It makes no sense because they say it's a yes, because he's not a witch. 199 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,000 But it's it means like old lady witch. 200 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:36,000 Not much. 201 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,000 Yeah. 202 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:43,800 For me, my understanding of the Baba Yaga is less specific and more kind of general. 203 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:52,280 Her her existence is similar to that of of like the the wise monkey kind of character 204 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:58,400 where in a claimant will show up and will be like, I knew I want to do this thing. 205 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,960 And Baba Yaga will be like, oh, yeah, I'll totally make that thing happen. 206 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:06,760 And then you find out later on that you're an idiot and Baba Yaga eats you. 207 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,520 Oh, that's essentially the the general gist of it. 208 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,000 I really thought you were going in the direction of like the monkey's paw or like you make 209 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,160 a wish and you get it. 210 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,200 But it's like the worst version of that wish. 211 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,000 It's a little bit like that. 212 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,920 It's got that level of like ironic. 213 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,320 Oh, be careful what you wish for. 214 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,280 You'll you're you're going to get yourself hurt in the process. 215 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:31,960 Baba Yaga's take on it, though, is always a little nice where it's like if you're courageous 216 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:37,400 and true and honest, then the Baba Yaga's tricks can't work on you and you'll get what 217 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,120 you want and survive. 218 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:40,120 Got you. 219 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,400 It's only the it's only the cowardly. 220 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,160 It's only the people who are trying to trick. 221 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,440 It's only the people who are trying to pull one over on the Baba Yaga. 222 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:53,720 So Baba Yaga punishes, but mainly the people who deserve a good punishing. 223 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,040 Yeah, for the most part. 224 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:59,660 So Baba Yaga is, for lack of a better term, just like an absolute fucking nightmare as 225 00:09:59,660 --> 00:10:01,440 far as like her whole general vibe. 226 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:02,440 For starters, she's old. 227 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,200 Not like that's like a bad thing or anything, but she's like impossibly. 228 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,120 She's like Jimmy Carter old. 229 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,960 Like it's very upsetting. 230 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,280 She's grotesquely thin. 231 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:16,360 One source described it as, quote, skeletal as though the forest itself consumed her flesh 232 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,640 and left only the bare essentials to sustain her life. 233 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,280 So like Keith Richards, Willem Dafoe, kind of skinny. 234 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:24,280 Yeah. 235 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,880 Her face is deeply wrinkled, which I mean is to be expected when you're about as old 236 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,320 as the tree that they used to make Christ Cross. 237 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,960 Her eyes are sunken and glowing with a faint otherworldly light. 238 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,680 Her long nose is sharp and hooked. 239 00:10:36,680 --> 00:10:40,200 It's so large, it's said that it touches the ceiling when she sleeps. 240 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:44,460 And some tales claim that she has iron teeth that glint like polished blades, which she 241 00:10:44,460 --> 00:10:47,520 uses to gnash through the bones of those who displease her. 242 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:52,040 And it's not just like the fact that she looks like the old lady from the bathtub scene in 243 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,520 The Shining, but that like unnerves people. 244 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,360 It's just like her overall presence is super unsettling. 245 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,800 Baba Yaga radiates power, like the kind that can't be bargained with. 246 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:05,400 She's said to move with a sort of unnatural energy flying through the air and what I can 247 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,740 only describe as one of the worst modes of transportation. 248 00:11:08,740 --> 00:11:10,180 It's a mortar and pestle. 249 00:11:10,180 --> 00:11:14,080 So basically what she does, she sits in the mortar like a boat and she uses the pestle 250 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:18,320 as her rudder and then has like a silver birch broom behind it that sleeps her tracks away 251 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:19,320 as she passes. 252 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:24,680 It's very like it reminded me of you ever seen The Secret World of Ari Yeti? 253 00:11:24,680 --> 00:11:28,760 It's kind of like they rise like something like that, only like large and not small, 254 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:29,760 like an actual. 255 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:30,760 Yeah. 256 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:31,760 Was that Miyazaki? 257 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:32,760 Yeah. 258 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:33,760 Yeah. 259 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:34,760 Or Ghibli. 260 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:35,760 I don't know if that was specifically Haya. 261 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:36,960 It was one of the Studio Gili movies. 262 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:37,960 I don't know. 263 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:38,960 Yeah. 264 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:39,960 Yeah. 265 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:45,760 When I was in high school, when I was in high school, we had a speech teacher and they were 266 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:50,400 they were called she was called a speech teacher and I don't know why they she didn't teach 267 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,240 anything and didn't speak very well. 268 00:11:53,240 --> 00:12:02,800 But she had this kind of like angular presence that led us to call her Birdwoman. 269 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:03,800 And I don't know. 270 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,920 I don't know specifically why. 271 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:10,320 But once it landed there, it was going to be that for the rest of our lives. 272 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:16,640 And to this day, hopefully she's dead, so she never hears the show discovers that I 273 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,400 still do this. 274 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:24,640 But it is it is always fun for me whenever we get the folklore and the myths where you 275 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:30,200 can very clearly see that it's an exaggerated version of something of like some some dude 276 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,080 just yeah, some dude just didn't like. 277 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:33,080 Yeah. 278 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,600 Like he's the old lady that was down the street from him. 279 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:36,600 Exactly. 280 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:43,040 He's got his knuckles with a ruler and he's like, oh, that now that's demons, which is 281 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:48,360 goddamn which is going to have to smear women for the rest of our time. 282 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:49,360 This lady sucks. 283 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,400 I'm writing a fairy tale. 284 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,920 You should never trust any woman ever because this old lady is a jerk. 285 00:12:54,920 --> 00:13:00,720 I mean, that's I feel like it's how all folklore and usually ends up starting is just one dude 286 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,400 did something bad to another dude or a woman or something like that. 287 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:04,400 Like, ah, that's it. 288 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,960 For the rest of for the centuries, you'll be known as this one terrible thing. 289 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:09,960 Oh, sure. 290 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:10,960 All right. 291 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:16,080 Well, now, well, this is a terrible choice and ride the mortar and pestle mode of transportation 292 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:20,960 isn't just like a fun little thing thrown in for some flavor in Slavic folklore. 293 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:25,880 The mortar and pestle are tools of transformation used to grind herbs, mix potions or prepare 294 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:26,880 meals. 295 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:31,360 Baba Yaga's use of them symbolizes her ability to break down and reshape reality itself, 296 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,320 blurring the lines between the mundane and the magical. 297 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,560 They say that when she's near, who said that? 298 00:13:37,560 --> 00:13:38,560 This is what people say. 299 00:13:38,560 --> 00:13:39,560 Who said that? 300 00:13:39,560 --> 00:13:40,560 Who says that? 301 00:13:40,560 --> 00:13:44,680 That's what it symbolizes the Slavs. 302 00:13:44,680 --> 00:13:47,600 I, I strongly doubt that. 303 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,680 Hey, man, I'm just going off what the folklore was. 304 00:13:50,680 --> 00:13:51,680 Don't just be. 305 00:13:51,680 --> 00:13:52,680 I know I get that. 306 00:13:52,680 --> 00:13:56,680 I get that they they get to say shit like that, but that that immediately raises red 307 00:13:56,680 --> 00:13:57,680 flags for me. 308 00:13:57,680 --> 00:14:02,600 The idea, the idea that we should all just take is read that it's OK that it's symbolized 309 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:06,960 that a border and pestle just the thing that she might use. 310 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,320 Maybe they were uncreative that day. 311 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:10,320 Oh, no, actually. 312 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,280 Maybe they just ran out of ideas. 313 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:13,280 Oh, no. 314 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:14,760 It actually symbolizes her ability. 315 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:15,760 Bullshit. 316 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:16,760 I call bullshit. 317 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,560 It doesn't symbolize shit. 318 00:14:18,560 --> 00:14:19,880 Here's the thing. 319 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:21,000 You're thinking about it. 320 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,600 I'm going to need you to not think about it, because here's the thing about this. 321 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,600 None of this is real. 322 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:30,160 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 323 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,160 I understand. 324 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,000 I understand that it's not holding his feet to the fire. 325 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,680 No, no, no. 326 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:36,680 She's not real. 327 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,040 More than what she's supposed to symbolize. 328 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,920 According to those assholes is real. 329 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:41,920 That's fair. 330 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:42,920 And they're the assholes. 331 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,920 They say that when she's near. 332 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,840 This reminds me of like an art history class where they like show you a painting and they're 333 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,080 telling you all this shit about it. 334 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:51,360 And you're like, are you sure? 335 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,800 Because that just looks like a vase and an apple. 336 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,120 I do have a strong hatred of higher education. 337 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,160 I could have something to do. 338 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:06,040 I've been to five different universities, though, so I know for a fact they suck. 339 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:07,320 Yeah, yeah. 340 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,560 I mean, I have a master's. 341 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:10,560 I get it. 342 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:11,560 I get it. 343 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:12,560 Yeah, there's a lot of nonsense in there. 344 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,320 So they say that when she's near, the air around you changes, grows cold and heavy with 345 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,840 the scent of damp earth and decaying leaves. 346 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,520 But anyway, so yes, that's her general vibe. 347 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,680 She's a grotesque old lady. 348 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,720 She's not very nice and she lives in a not lives but drives around a moral of pestle. 349 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,760 Like so far, I've already gotten basically your general ideas. 350 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,760 But how you feeling about Baba Yaga so far? 351 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,840 I feel like whoever wrote this was extremely high on something. 352 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,440 Ergot poisoning, just fucking dripping balls. 353 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:46,120 Like how do you it's got to be something like that because like house with chicken legs, 354 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:52,120 rolling around in essentially a rock bowl doesn't make a lot of like all of this sounds 355 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,120 like something that I would read. 356 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,880 And like it sounds like something Jim Morrison would sing about. 357 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:57,880 You know what I mean? 358 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:58,880 I guess I fucking hate the door. 359 00:15:58,880 --> 00:15:59,880 So I don't know. 360 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:00,880 It's a little silly. 361 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:01,880 Like it's cool. 362 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:02,880 Don't get me wrong. 363 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,480 I can totally see this being like one of those new horror movies like they just made the 364 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:07,760 Winnie the Pooh horror movie. 365 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,240 They could totally make this horror movie. 366 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,760 But at the same time, a house with chicken legs. 367 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,080 I don't keep going back to that. 368 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:14,320 We haven't even covered that yet. 369 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:15,560 You just hold your horses, bud. 370 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:16,560 All right. 371 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,660 OK, we haven't even once mentioned the house. 372 00:16:18,660 --> 00:16:19,660 That was all Jordan. 373 00:16:19,660 --> 00:16:23,320 But also the mortar and pestle is so confusing to me. 374 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:24,320 Yeah, I don't know. 375 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,080 What a terrible mode of transportation. 376 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,880 When you said mortar and pestle, I'm thinking one of those little things you get in a store 377 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,920 that calls itself an apothecary, but it really just sells incense. 378 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:37,560 But you're talking about like a big it's like it's got to it's got to be huge to fit a person. 379 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,560 It's about person size. 380 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:45,000 Well, it's got to the the the mortar part. 381 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,000 It's got to be or the pestle. 382 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,720 I don't know what stick is called, but the big part is going to be fucking heavy, right? 383 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,760 Well, she's supernatural, and it's also, again, not real. 384 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:57,280 Look, I just want realism in my Slavic folklore. 385 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:58,520 OK, that's all I'm asking. 386 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,000 I like I like it. 387 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:05,000 I've always been a big fan of the Baba Yaga because it's another good example of editing 388 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,040 that just happens over time. 389 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,040 Yeah. 390 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:18,240 Like, you know, we watch the the the traditional hocus pocus witch style movies now, you know, 391 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:22,800 and you can see all the stuff where it's like, oh, that is from the Baba Yaga. 392 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,440 But then you also see the stuff where they're like, oh, we can just cut that out. 393 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:27,440 We don't need. 394 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,440 We don't need the oh, that's no. 395 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,560 Maybe she can just wear a black hat. 396 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,160 That's better than having to be. 397 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:38,600 Oh, she's as thin as the ghosts of eating her skin like now we can just have to be a 398 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,840 lady wearing a nice hat. 399 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:41,840 It'll be fine. 400 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:42,840 Let's just make it bet Midler. 401 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,880 And yeah, it's just good editing. 402 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:45,880 It's just editing. 403 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,440 We need all this bullshit to be attached to. 404 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:49,440 All right. 405 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,480 So now that Sarge is all set about the house, I think it's time that we talk about her house. 406 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:57,160 So Sarge, this is this is where your giant bird kind of comes into play. 407 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,120 Her home is pretty much as infamous as she is. 408 00:17:59,120 --> 00:18:03,560 If anything, people more so know the imagery of her house and Baba Yaga itself. 409 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,480 Like people know more about this house on chicken legs than they do about this old lady 410 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,040 going around in a mortar and pestle. 411 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:10,040 Her home. 412 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,960 It's it's pretty much just like a gnarly looking hut standing atop massive gnarled chicken 413 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:18,160 legs with scaly cracked skin that's as tough as bark and is constantly scratching at the 414 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,040 ground with its talon like claws. 415 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:21,560 Essentially her house is alive. 416 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,600 It's restless and it's never still like this thing is always on the move. 417 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:30,480 Sometimes sometimes the hut spins in place just like a fucking blur of wooden chicken 418 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:31,520 legs. 419 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:36,920 But it's disorienting whirlwind and unpredictability is almost like an anti burglary system kind 420 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:37,920 of thing. 421 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,040 Like it's hard to break into what boils down like essentially to like a fucking Elden Ring 422 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,680 boss like it's kind of what it is. 423 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:48,080 Now only those who know the proper incantation can stop it from spinning. 424 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:52,920 And the incantation is simply turn your back to the forest, your front to me, which as 425 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,160 far as incantations go, it's a little disappointing. 426 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,960 I was hoping for more of something more like doesn't even fucking rhyme. 427 00:18:59,960 --> 00:19:01,200 What are we doing? 428 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,680 Maybe it rhymes in the language in the original language. 429 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:04,680 Maybe it rhymes. 430 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:05,680 OK, you're not understand. 431 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:06,680 No, you're not understanding. 432 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:07,680 This is a practical. 433 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:12,760 The Slavs very practical people at this time, which you need to understand. 434 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:17,300 These forests are very, very big and this house is not that big. 435 00:19:17,300 --> 00:19:21,560 So you're going to have to wind up walking around and saying this thing over and over 436 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:26,000 and over and over again until you actually find the way you want to keep it short and 437 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,000 snappy. 438 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:32,600 You can't be you can't be having long incantations that you have to say every every 25 feet. 439 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,640 You go down the way and you're like, oh shit, we got to start all over again. 440 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,640 Draw a circle on the ground. 441 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,680 Put a little star over here. 442 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:41,680 Jesus Christ. 443 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,720 They also still said Jesus Christ back then. 444 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:49,280 So they got to know these witches, shits, motherfuckers. 445 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:50,280 These. 446 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:51,640 I actually prefer that, though. 447 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:57,200 But anyways, but once those words are spoken correctly, as if they're super hard to remember, 448 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,880 the house numbers to a halt, its legs full beneath it. 449 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:03,480 And once it settles, the door will open to reveal what lies within. 450 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:08,640 And I got to say, the inside of a home is pretty much everything like I'm already aspiring 451 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:09,640 my home to be. 452 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:15,880 Maybe not all of it, but so once inside, the walls appear to close in ever so slightly, 453 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,920 creating a claustrophobic atmosphere that's heavy with the scent of herbs, smoke and just 454 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,080 the faint metallic scent of blood. 455 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:27,440 Shelves line the interior, stacked with jars filled with powders, roots, glowing liquids 456 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,240 and preserved creatures. 457 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,200 Animal skulls hang from the ceiling. 458 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:36,280 The centerpiece of the hut is a massive stove, which is pretty traditional for any witch. 459 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:40,000 And they say that the mouth of it is glowing with what some have described as an unholy 460 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,000 fire. 461 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,520 Now, I don't know who described it as that, Jordan, so don't come at me for that. 462 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:45,720 That one I have no problem with. 463 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:50,320 So here, Baba Yaga prepares her meals, her potions and sometimes her victim. 464 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:54,120 This also sounds where this sounds like where Billy Bob Thornton is. 465 00:20:54,120 --> 00:20:57,840 Yeah, you guys seen him lately? 466 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:58,840 It's a lot going on. 467 00:20:58,840 --> 00:20:59,840 There's a lot going on. 468 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:00,840 Moving on. 469 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:01,840 Elsa. 470 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:02,840 Elsa. 471 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:09,120 I don't I have I genuinely don't know like where what angle to take on that. 472 00:21:09,120 --> 00:21:14,040 I'm not sure if Billy Bob Thornton is relevant or if I'm irrelevant. 473 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,680 I don't know which is which. 474 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:24,640 It's so weird to be wondering about the current stress of Billy Bob Thornton, a 70 year old 475 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:29,780 man at least outside of her hut, because of course, her landscaping is just as gnarly 476 00:21:29,780 --> 00:21:32,240 as her interior decorating. 477 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,180 The hut is surrounded by fences made of bones. 478 00:21:35,180 --> 00:21:36,480 Human skulls top the post. 479 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,920 Their hollow eyes lit up to be used as lanterns in the night. 480 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:44,920 Some say the skulls are those that belong to her victims, serving as a warning to intruders. 481 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:49,400 Others suggest that the fence is a test itself, daring the faint of heart to turn back before 482 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,800 they even knock on the door. 483 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,160 That's my favorite. 484 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,120 That's my favorite trope with it. 485 00:21:56,120 --> 00:21:57,600 It's always my favorite thing. 486 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:03,800 It's like a some suggest and others suggest blank and then you just move on as opposed 487 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:09,120 to like stopping and then picturing a conversation between these two people just sitting there 488 00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:14,760 suddenly getting furious about no, the fence is a test. 489 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,760 God damn it. 490 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,320 The fence is a test. 491 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,840 See what's great about that is that a picture I just picture two folklorists in my mind 492 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:28,600 and they're not like the most aggressive of people, but to them just screaming at each 493 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:29,600 other. 494 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:30,600 Absolutely. 495 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,880 No, this is a test. 496 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,320 And it's Slavic folklore. 497 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,400 So they're bringing out axes. 498 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,200 Absolutely. 499 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,880 What I love is that you were like the legs are the burglar alarm. 500 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,500 No, no, the spinning is a burglar alarm. 501 00:22:45,500 --> 00:22:47,160 The skulls on the fence. 502 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,160 No, that's fine. 503 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,780 You put like who's going to go into that house? 504 00:22:50,780 --> 00:22:51,780 I would. 505 00:22:51,780 --> 00:22:55,840 I think if it's just sitting there, if there's skulls on the fence, I'm like, you know what? 506 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,200 Maybe I don't need to go there today. 507 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,520 I have skulls in my house and I go in my house every day. 508 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:00,840 I don't want to go in there. 509 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:07,760 Every every group of between three and eight children has to have a witch house nearby 510 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,560 to dare one of them to go touch. 511 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:16,880 That child will then be abducted by the witch who then teaches him, you know, like poetry 512 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:17,880 or something. 513 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:18,880 Yes. 514 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:19,880 Yeah. 515 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:20,880 Or chess. 516 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:26,320 So one of Baba Yaga's darkest and probably most infamous traits is her is her appetite 517 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,720 for children. 518 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,300 She loves to eat kids and many of Baba Yaga's tales. 519 00:23:30,300 --> 00:23:34,040 She lures kids, usually those lost or wandering through the woods into her hut with the promise 520 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:38,320 of food, water and safety only to fatten them up and toss them in the oven, presumably to 521 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:39,320 eat later. 522 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,920 It's very hot, like Hansel and Gretel kind of shit. 523 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:46,200 But Baba Yaga, lucky for her, I don't know why I wrote that. 524 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,600 She doesn't really like have to like hunt down children herself. 525 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,360 Like her nightmare Tim Burton house pretty much does all the work for her and acts kind 526 00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:56,680 of like a lure like the spinning, the chicken legs, the eerie glow. 527 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:01,000 All this seems almost designed to draw the curious and lost to her doorstep. 528 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,960 But once you're inside, that sucks to suck. 529 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:04,960 Like I don't know what else to tell you. 530 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,440 Like you're not you're pretty much not leaving. 531 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,960 I feel like this house is only drawn in. 532 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,640 I feel like this house is only drawn in the hot topic kids though. 533 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:12,640 You know what I mean? 534 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,240 Like the ones with the Jack Skellington hoodie. 535 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,320 Those are the ones getting sucked in. 536 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:21,680 Well, it was it was often like one of the best ways to keep children from going too 537 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:28,200 far into the forest is not to explain like object permanence, but to be like, if you 538 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,280 go too far, you're going to die. 539 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,640 There's going to be a murder out there. 540 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:39,560 Not like, hey, man, there's only enough food for so many of us and maybe we'll see you 541 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:40,560 next spring. 542 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,440 I don't know. 543 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,400 Man, everyone in the old days was a terrible pair. 544 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:47,400 It's tough in the past. 545 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,480 It was tough for the past. 546 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:54,880 Now for all of her less than stellar qualities, Baba Yaga is an entirely malevolent. 547 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,360 She's also considered a figure of judgment, testing those who come to her in search of 548 00:24:58,360 --> 00:24:59,880 aid or knowledge. 549 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:04,000 The lazy, disrespectful or cowardly people quickly meet a grim fate. 550 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,360 And Baba Yaga doesn't fuck around. 551 00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:09,240 So if you fit into any one of those categories, like her punishments are swift and fucking 552 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,240 brutal. 553 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,720 You can fail any task that she gives you. 554 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,520 So basically what's going to happen is if you go to her and you're just a straight up 555 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:23,040 dickhead or you're a coward, she's going to like Ned Stark, cut your head off and put 556 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,560 it on the fence or she'll eat you either. 557 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:30,400 But anyways, but those who show courage, humility and wit can win her favor. 558 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:36,360 In some stories, Baba Yaga offers guidance, magical tools, or even as something as simple 559 00:25:36,360 --> 00:25:41,080 as just like safe passage through the woods to those who prove themselves to be worthy. 560 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,200 And it's this duality that is central to her character. 561 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,680 Like most people in the black metal community, she is as much of a gatekeeper as she is a 562 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,360 predator. 563 00:25:50,360 --> 00:25:54,580 Standing at the crossroads of life and death, offering both peril and possibility. 564 00:25:54,580 --> 00:25:57,600 Take for instance, the story of Vasilisa the beautiful. 565 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:04,120 So Vasilisa was sent to this is kind of sounds like very like Cinderella was sent by her 566 00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:07,040 wicked stepmother to fetch fire from Baba Yaga's hut. 567 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,880 Like you understand why it sounds kind of Cinderella. 568 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,240 I do fully understand. 569 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,240 You understand it doesn't. 570 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,680 It goes the other direction. 571 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:20,040 Like you understand it sounds because this story sounds like Hansel and Gretel because 572 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,440 Hansel and Gretel is from this story. 573 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,480 It doesn't go the other direction. 574 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:25,720 I'm just having fun with it, man. 575 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:26,720 All right. 576 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:27,720 Sounds a little Cinderella. 577 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:32,600 No, it is because the guy read this story and then wrote Cinderella. 578 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:33,600 I know. 579 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:34,600 It's not like this. 580 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,600 Oh, my like Ariana Grande reminds me of. 581 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:43,480 No, she's from the present and reminds you of something from the past, not the other 582 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:44,480 way around. 583 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:45,480 Disgusting. 584 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:53,320 Now I know why your mic is so quiet, Jordan. 585 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,320 I told you. 586 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:55,320 I don't know. 587 00:26:55,320 --> 00:27:00,600 I just I just told you. 588 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:06,000 So Vasilisa was sent by her wicked stepmother to fetch fire from Baba Yaga's hut. 589 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,680 Vasilisa courageously approaches the hut and Baba Yaga sets before her like a series of 590 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:15,480 impossible tasks in order to gain what she's there asking for, separating grains of rice 591 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,980 from poppy seeds, cleaning her house and preparing her meals. 592 00:27:18,980 --> 00:27:21,640 But Vasilisa has an ace up her sleeve. 593 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:26,440 Her late mother had gifted her a magical doll before she passed, hence late mother. 594 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,280 And this doll helped Vasilisa to complete each chore. 595 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:34,000 Now impressed, Baba Yaga spares her life and gives Vasilisa a fiery skull that she then 596 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,720 brings back home. 597 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,880 And then it kills her whole family. 598 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:39,880 Oh, good. 599 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:40,880 Oh, great. 600 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:45,200 But see, well, it kills her evil stepmother. 601 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,580 And I forgot to mention that she also had evil stepsisters. 602 00:27:47,580 --> 00:27:48,920 So it killed those people. 603 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,920 Left her like, like, Vasilisa's fine. 604 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,340 Now she's just like there to fend for herself with a flaming skull. 605 00:27:55,340 --> 00:27:57,480 So win, win, I guess. 606 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,440 So here's the problem with this story that you got to see now. 607 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,440 There's only one psychological lens. 608 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:04,440 All right. 609 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,440 Yeah, absolutely. 610 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,440 Just the one problem. 611 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:07,440 Gotcha. 612 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:08,440 Because the story shouldn't have happened. 613 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:09,440 Right. 614 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,280 When your mom when your mom gifts you shit after death. 615 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,280 Yeah. 616 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:15,280 Right. 617 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:16,660 There's no way you're going to like your step mom. 618 00:28:16,660 --> 00:28:23,080 You can't because you've got this ghost of your regular mom hanging around. 619 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:28,680 So there's no way you can develop a lasting and comfortable bond with your new mom. 620 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,840 You're still trapped in the past in the form of this. 621 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:32,840 What was it again? 622 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:33,840 A doll. 623 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,760 See, that's creepy as shit to begin with. 624 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:38,760 Right. 625 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,360 Even if it had no magical abilities, that's creepy as shit. 626 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,200 I don't trust anybody who collects like porcelain dolls. 627 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,200 Absolutely. 628 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,200 As you should not. 629 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,200 Absolutely. 630 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,200 Yeah. 631 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,640 And as a recent convert to voodoo, you don't know what I can do with a doll. 632 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,640 I can do anything with that kind of shit. 633 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,920 Now on the other end of the spectrum, you have the stories of the lazy and disrespectful 634 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:03,240 traveler, someone who comes to Baba Yaga seeking an easy answer to their problems. 635 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,680 They would scoff at her chores and tasks and demand help without earning it. 636 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:11,080 Now if you come with Baba Yaga all hot like that, she will not hesitate and just like 637 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,680 straight up toss you in her pot. 638 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,760 Baba Yaga's tests, they're not they're never arbitrary. 639 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,440 Like they reveal the true character of those who come to her. 640 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,280 Like in every encounter with Baba Yaga, there's a choice. 641 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,840 You either face your fears and prove yourself or turn away and remain unchanged. 642 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:29,960 Now those brave enough to enter her home might find exactly what they need or they might 643 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:30,960 never be seen again. 644 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,000 Like it's really just like a roll the dice type scenario. 645 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,520 But okay, I don't know. 646 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,600 For me, like that's what makes her such like a fascinating character of folklore. 647 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,360 Like she's much more than just like a witch or a villain. 648 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:46,040 She's a symbol of transformation, but also a cautionary tale of the untamed forces of 649 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,040 nature. 650 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,820 Like kind of like what you were joking about earlier, Jordan, like, you know, you wander 651 00:29:49,820 --> 00:29:53,120 into the woods like you're going to be taken by Baba Yaga. 652 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,880 But really, it's more of a cautionary tale of like, you don't know what the fuck is in 653 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,320 these woods like you're. 654 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:58,800 Oh yeah, no. 655 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:03,880 Some, some scholars say that she's a symbol of the ocean and because she's very deep. 656 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,120 Oh, I hate it here. 657 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,640 I like it. 658 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,760 You did so much research on this and we're just like, bullshit. 659 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:20,320 I mean, obviously, we know it's not real folklore, like, but still. 660 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:21,320 Yeah, I know. 661 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,320 Anyways, her. 662 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,320 No, no, no, I agree. 663 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,640 I'm just I'm just enjoying having a fun time. 664 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,320 I mean, I'm actually like I think it's kind of a fascinating folks. 665 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:36,400 I didn't know anything about Baba Yaga other than it was Keanu Reeves in a movie. 666 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,720 And so now I'm like, I didn't know about the chicken house. 667 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,080 I didn't know about any of this stuff. 668 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:46,360 So I'm fascinated by it, but at the same time, like I do kind of agree with Jordan when they're 669 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,840 like, this is what this represents and what that represents. 670 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:54,540 And I'm like, I think you are making them far more sophisticated. 671 00:30:54,540 --> 00:30:58,720 They were just trying to scare the shit out of their children to not go in the woods. 672 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:03,360 I mean, there's there's definitely that, but there's also like what what these do is they 673 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:09,760 get transformed throughout time, you know, so the Baba Yaga story back when it was told 674 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,360 is not the Baba Yaga story that we are talking about now. 675 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,040 The Baba Yaga story back when it's told was a thing. 676 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:22,080 And then it gets filtered through, you know, Shakespeare's, you know, representation of 677 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:26,880 the mother maiden and crone kind of story and the way that our collective consciousness 678 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:31,400 adds that through there and then strains the Baba Yaga into that. 679 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:38,720 And so when we talk about, you know, like what scholars think of the Baba Yaga story, 680 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:44,240 what we're talking about is both like regional and four dimensional at a at any given point 681 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:49,680 in time, they may have thought something completely different because there is a different melange 682 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,040 of things inside of it. 683 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,280 Jordan nailed it because we're going to cover that like a little little at the end, not 684 00:31:55,280 --> 00:32:00,360 maybe not as in detail as that, but he's he's he's no Jordan's right, though, is that like 685 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:05,200 over time, like any good folkloric story, most of them start out as like an oral tradition, 686 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,880 then they get written down, then they get translated, retranslated, and then the her 687 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,760 tale isn't just one single story that has changed over time. 688 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:16,720 It's Baba Yaga appears in many different stories, and she's always either the villain or the 689 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,780 hero or like a weird amalgamation of both. 690 00:32:19,780 --> 00:32:23,880 So when scholars say like it could represent this or it does represent this, like it depends 691 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,800 on what version and or what era they might be talking about Baba Yaga in. 692 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:32,100 So while yeah, Jordan's right, like it's all kind of fucking silly, but it's just because 693 00:32:32,100 --> 00:32:35,840 like it depends on when you're talking like right now, like we're talking about it like 694 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:41,240 in the sense of what Baba Yaga is known as now, not what it was when some dude in the 695 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,240 woods saw a weird old lady one time. 696 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,240 Right. 697 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,240 And sure. 698 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:52,040 And plenty of these plenty of these stories in their specifics are in this case about 699 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,120 Baba Yaga. 700 00:32:53,120 --> 00:33:00,480 But the story itself in general, the idea of this character with these traits goes to 701 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,880 this character with these traits. 702 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,560 Morality ensues, you know, problem solved. 703 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,800 That's also like a cut and paste. 704 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:15,920 So one culture will have originally had it with the sun god Ra. 705 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,880 And then it'll be the exact same story, but it'll now be the Baba Yaga. 706 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:24,480 So when you say, oh, the Baba Yaga represents this, are you talking about the Baba Yaga 707 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,280 in this story or the Baba Yaga? 708 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:31,520 It's actually a callback to the sun god Ra from several thousand years back. 709 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,200 So in general, I just hate skulls. 710 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,200 That's really what I'm talking about. 711 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,160 Just in general, just a general leg. 712 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,240 I like to I like to know things just so I can hate on people who know. 713 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,240 It's a real dick thing to do is no shit. 714 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:51,220 So she's a symbol of transformation, but but also a cautionary tale of the untamed forces 715 00:33:51,220 --> 00:33:52,220 of nature. 716 00:33:52,220 --> 00:33:56,240 Now her chicken legged house, which shards seems to just really hate the constantly spinning 717 00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,700 like a Beyblade in the forest, it reflects her connection to the in-between, the threshold 718 00:34:00,700 --> 00:34:06,600 between the human world and the supernatural to to approach her hut is to step into a realm 719 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,840 where normal rules like just no longer apply in the house. 720 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:15,040 Like the house's legs, as fucked up in Eldritch as they are, they do hold a deeper meaning 721 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,560 in Slavic folklore. 722 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,980 Chickens are liminal creatures, so they're tied to both the earth and the sky. 723 00:34:20,980 --> 00:34:25,960 So by standing on chicken legs, Baba Yaga's hut becomes a gateway between worlds, like 724 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,800 a place of like profound transition. 725 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:29,800 So it's like a TARDIS. 726 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,200 It is a little bit like a yeah, yeah, yeah. 727 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:37,360 No, that's that's a really good kind of like an analogy for this specific. 728 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:42,320 So the spinning motion of the house mirrors the chaos of life's challenges, and only those 729 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,420 who can still their fear and speak the right words can eventually find the stability they 730 00:34:46,420 --> 00:34:47,880 so desperately seek. 731 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,480 Jordan, your face just seems like you want to yell. 732 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:57,880 No, I'm just I know I just like the idea of like a mother telling her two children this 733 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:58,880 story. 734 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,280 And then at the end of it, just go and be like, hey, shut up. 735 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:08,440 The spinning house represents fucking the liminal space between when it spins and then 736 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,280 when you're not alive. 737 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,440 You know, it's the chaos of life. 738 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,600 I was like, Jordan, this is a lot. 739 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,080 It's the no, it's the no. 740 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,080 What? 741 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,080 Shut up. 742 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,080 Quit crying. 743 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,080 Quit crying. 744 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:30,080 It's about the chaos of life is what this story is about. 745 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,280 I regret having both of you on. 746 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,360 I should have done this by myself. 747 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,760 Even Baba Yaga's duality, her roles as both destroyer and helper. 748 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:44,560 I hate that I'm going to say this next thing represents the complexities of life. 749 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:45,560 She's a reminder. 750 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:46,560 Yeah, that she's a reminder. 751 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:47,560 Ring the bell. 752 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:54,640 She's a reminder that the unknown can be both terrifying and transformative. 753 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,800 The danger and wisdom often walk hand in hand. 754 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:02,120 Now the tales of Baba Yaga have endured for centuries and while her legend is consistently 755 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,440 evolving, it never loses its edge. 756 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:09,340 Like she's popped up in countless folktales, each one adding a new layer to her character. 757 00:36:09,340 --> 00:36:13,380 In modern times, she's found her way into literature, films and games from Neil Gaiman's 758 00:36:13,380 --> 00:36:18,560 Stardust to the Hellboy comics to the Witcher series, even in trading card games like Cryptid 759 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:19,560 Camp. 760 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,360 Yet no matter the adaptation, like her essence remains the same. 761 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,800 It's wild, untamed, unforgettable. 762 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:30,120 And Baba Yaga is much more than just like a folkloric story or a cautionary tale. 763 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,120 She's a challenge. 764 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,600 She's a test of courage and character. 765 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,920 Her spinning hut, her gnashing teeth, her relentless appetite. 766 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,280 They're all symbols of the trials we face in life. 767 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,720 Whether she offers help, harm or something in between. 768 00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:43,080 It all depends on how you approach her. 769 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:47,560 So gentlemen, in closing, if you ever find yourself wandering through a dark forest, 770 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:52,160 see a hut with chicken legs scratching at the earth, take a deep breath, speak the right 771 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:57,480 words, step through the boneline fence and prepare to face whatever test she has in store. 772 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,400 So there you have it guys. 773 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,400 That is not the whole tale, but most of the tale of Baba Yaga. 774 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:04,920 Thank you very much. 775 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:09,960 I feel like in a world where we have warnings on plastic bags, something like Baba Yaga 776 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,240 is even more terrifying to me. 777 00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:13,960 You know, cause like actual consequences. 778 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:19,040 Yeah, I don't want that in the form of failure leading to sacrifice. 779 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,480 Yeah, I don't want that. 780 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:22,480 That doesn't sound fun. 781 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:23,480 Yeah. 782 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:24,480 You know what? 783 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:25,480 You're not wrong. 784 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:26,480 Yeah, I like it. 785 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,080 What websites are like, are you sure you want to press this button? 786 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:34,000 I'm going to give you as many off ramps as I can. 787 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,200 There are no off ramps. 788 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,360 Whatever you're walking on a chicken leg. 789 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,800 That's just, you're just going off the chicken leg house. 790 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,640 Honestly, like the visual of it is so awesome. 791 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:45,960 It's compelling. 792 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,080 It's a really great visual. 793 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:52,280 It's a truly tremendous like the house on chicken legs is just great. 794 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:53,280 That's the story of Baba Yaga. 795 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,480 I want to get your guys's honest, true opinions. 796 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,080 Jordan, how you feeling about Baba Yaga? 797 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,240 The story as told this way, not by the ancients, obviously. 798 00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:11,640 I've always been a big fan of Baba Yaga as the folkloric figure, just because Baba Yaga 799 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:22,240 is often associated with both the power of women and the power of travelers, if you will. 800 00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:28,600 So it is very much the lessons are work hard and you'll be rewarded. 801 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:29,600 It's not complicated. 802 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:30,600 Yeah. 803 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:36,120 The lessons are like, if somebody is coming by to your house and needs something, give 804 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,120 it to them. 805 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,120 Don't be an asshole. 806 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,120 What are you doing? 807 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,120 What's wrong with you? 808 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:45,840 Like the lessons of Baba Yaga are so very much like, hey, don't be an asshole. 809 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,680 It's really not as hard as you might think. 810 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:56,080 And then the way that people behave in the stories is so clearly like, man, this guy 811 00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:03,200 fucking Derek came through town six weeks ago, dude, ate all of my stuff, all of it, 812 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:04,280 all of it. 813 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,800 And then just left, didn't leave a fucking Pence behind. 814 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,400 And you're like, well, he's going in the story. 815 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,240 He's going to go. 816 00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:16,560 People in 2024 are going to be like, yeah, Derek was a real piece of shit. 817 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:17,560 It's true. 818 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,280 And Baba Yaga is going to get him. 819 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,280 So don't worry about it. 820 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,280 Exactly. 821 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:22,280 He screwed you over. 822 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,280 But Baba Yaga will get him. 823 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,280 You got it. 824 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,080 I was one of the things like, cause like when you try and find like folkloric stories about 825 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:33,360 Baba Yaga, it's always the, like the disrespectful traveler never has a name, I feel like. 826 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:38,080 It is because they did that purposely so you could put in the name of some shit bag who 827 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:39,080 fucked you over. 828 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,560 And you're like, yeah, well, so I use Derek. 829 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:43,560 Exactly. 830 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:49,080 I find it funnier in specific, but also it's a general, it's a synecdoche. 831 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,080 It's okay. 832 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,080 Don't worry about it. 833 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:55,160 But there's also like, there's Norse mythology that's like that with travelers who were disrespectful 834 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,160 as well. 835 00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:01,280 I remember one where they were eating, I think it was like one of Thor's goats. 836 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:06,120 And they said, you know, don't break the bones, eat the marrow out because you know, the goats 837 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,040 can't come back when the goat came back and it was lame. 838 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,200 Thor just killed him. 839 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,080 He was like, well, fuck you guys. 840 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:14,080 You did exactly what I told you. 841 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,080 It was one rule. 842 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,640 You can follow the one fucking rule. 843 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:17,640 Yeah. 844 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:18,640 All right. 845 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:19,640 But that's our episode. 846 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,640 Thank you guys so much for listening. 847 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,880 Jordan, thank you so much for coming on. 848 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:24,880 Had a great time. 849 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:25,880 Did you honestly? 850 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:26,880 Yeah, no, I had a great time. 851 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,960 Am I coming back? 852 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,960 That's a different question to whether or not I had a great time. 853 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,320 That's a time and effort based question. 854 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:43,400 You know, all of those things are very changeable and frankly, capricious. 855 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,760 This is normally where we would, we would plug our stuff, but I'm going to open the 856 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,320 floor to you, Jordan, to plug whatever it is you want to plug. 857 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,440 I know you got things going on. 858 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:56,080 I guess we do a show knowledge fight.com, but I wrote a book. 859 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:57,920 It's the quiet part loud. 860 00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,760 You can get it for free at the quiet part loud.com. 861 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:00,760 All right. 862 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:01,760 So if so, yeah. 863 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,440 So go, go to the knowledge fight. 864 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,160 If you're listening to this, you know how to find other podcasts. 865 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,160 So just knowledge fight, whatever. 866 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:13,640 If you want to follow us on Instagram at that crypto cocktail, you can find all the links 867 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:14,640 in our Instagram. 868 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,880 Get my coloring book, you savages. 869 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,180 It's now got legs because moron got elected for four more years. 870 00:41:20,180 --> 00:41:24,240 So you can take all your frustrations out on the coloring book or just, you know, burn 871 00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:25,720 it and make hot dogs out there. 872 00:41:25,720 --> 00:41:26,720 All right. 873 00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:28,720 So just super normal.com. 874 00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:31,480 So that way, Jordan, would you like to say goodbye? 875 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:32,480 And I love you to the audience. 876 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:33,480 Goodbye. 877 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:58,680 I love you to the audience.