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Hey everybody!

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Welcome back to another episode of Crypto Cocktail Party Show where we have a few drinks,

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share a few laughs, take a dive into the unknown.

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I'm your host Dave, joined as always by my wonderful co-host Sarge.

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How's it going handsome?

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What's up motherfuckers?

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This is going to be our first proper episode together in a while.

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In like three weeks.

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Yeah, this is going to be insane.

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This is a good time.

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It's a good time.

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I missed you.

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I hated that you were gone.

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I know, I hated it too.

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But we did a little Halloween special together.

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That was fun.

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We did.

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We did because I needed it.

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I really needed it.

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Happy Veterans Day you motherfuckers.

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Oh yeah, it's coming on Veterans Day.

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Happy Veterans Day everyone.

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All my brothers and sisters.

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Yeah, thank you to Sarge for your service, I guess.

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Sorry about gas prices.

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Really thought we had that locked down.

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No, I have a cousin who's in the military.

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I actually have a few friends and stuff.

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And they told me that they fucking hate being told thank you for your service.

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Is that like across the board?

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You know, I feel like people recognize like how fucking weird it is that like they just

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met somebody who was like, yeah, you know, I was totally willing to die so that you could

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eat Fritos.

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And so like it's uncomfortable for people like they don't know what to say.

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And so like thank you for your service has become like this default thing.

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And so for me, it's not that I hate it.

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It's that I don't know what to say afterwards.

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So we always joke like you're welcome for your freedom.

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But obviously, I'm not going to say that to like a real person.

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So I feel like if you did, I just say thank you.

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They'd be like, I think they'd be fine.

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If they're the type of person that goes out to people and says thank you for your service,

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they probably expect that kind of response back.

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Yeah, like, yeah.

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But I so typically I just say you're welcome.

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Or I actually what I try to say, because I don't even want to say you're welcome.

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Like I didn't fucking give you a freedom.

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Don't thank me, thank George Washington.

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So instead, I'm like, you know, thank you for supporting us or something like that,

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something along those lines.

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So you basically like the opening band at a local show.

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Just like, yeah, thanks for that's exactly.

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Yeah.

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Thanks for coming out.

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Appreciate it.

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We played all the hits tonight.

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Thank you.

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Like at least for me, like I feel bad for the for the fucking guys that like didn't

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see combat.

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And I don't mean like, no, I don't mean like, I just feel because like, what are they?

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You know what I mean?

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Like, yeah, I mean, like I manned a radar for six years.

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So now you're welcome.

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You don't have to thank me.

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Like in my case, like at least I did combat missions.

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Like I didn't experience any like fucking gunfights or anything like that.

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You know, we were.

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But like the moment that we got murdered, I was like, OK, finally, I can I can be like,

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yeah, yeah, I saw some shit.

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You're welcome.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, exactly.

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It wasn't bad.

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I mean, I played Halo for the most part and Call of Duty.

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But yeah, I was out on missions.

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I was, you know, out in out in sector hanging out with the Iraqis.

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So but I feel bad for the guys that like didn't have that because like, what do they say?

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I don't know.

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I've never been in a situation like it.

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But the closest I've come to it's awkward.

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Yeah, it's awkward.

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I used to work.

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You live in Philly, so you're close.

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Yeah.

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Well, when I back living in New Hampshire, I used to work in the in the Fox Run Mall

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twice.

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I was there as a manager at Hot Topic, if you can't tell by looking at me and also the

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the manager of a journey is again, if you couldn't tell again, both make sense.

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I would have managed a hot topic, too, but I didn't have enough piercings.

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The Fox Run Mall is right next to Pease Air Force Base in Portsmouth.

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Yes, I know it very well.

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Yeah.

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So we'd have like people come in all the time, like on their break and stuff like that.

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Obviously, like in their fatigues, like they're fully.

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And then I'd go to the what's it called?

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I'd go to the food court on my lunch breaks to get like some pizza or something like that.

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And you'd see like these just like a lone soldier just like eating this fucking food

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court Chinese food and have in the span of like 20 minutes, like five white ladies just

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like come up like, thank you for your service.

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Like, you'll never finish a meal.

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I'm just trying to eat my fucking lo mein, like leave me alone.

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You can see the frustration.

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It got so bad.

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Like in the beginning, I used to wear my uniform like on my way to drill, you know, because

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in the National Guard, we go to training one week at a month.

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So I wear my uniform on the.

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I remember those commercials.

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They were never two weeks a year.

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It was always like three weeks at the at the least.

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And it was always like five fucking days, not a weekend.

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But anyway, I would wear my uniform there so I didn't have to get changed when I got there.

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And then I stopped doing that because I could never get through a fucking meal.

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And it's again, I'm not ungrateful.

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Yeah, I just want to eat in my head.

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I was like, dude, if it was my lunch break from peas, I would just have like a like a

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like a go bag of just like civilian clothes because I could not.

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I couldn't handle it.

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That's too much.

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It's rough.

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That's why I hope this show never blows up and no one really knows my face looks like

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because I would.

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I do have to tell you a funny story about Peace Air Force Base before we get started.

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This is my favorite story ever.

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It is about my grandfather, who is a fucking badass.

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This guy, he just like he's always been my superhero ever since I was a little kid.

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I spent a lot of time with him because my parents worked a lot.

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And so anyway, so back in the 40s, my grandfather had his pilot's license and he is just before

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he deployed to Germany at the very end of the war.

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And so he's on he's on Camp Edwards out in Cape Cod.

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For those of you not familiar, Camp Edwards is where I've spent much of my military career,

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but also there's a lot of runways out there.

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And so back in the day, you could just kind of steal an airplane.

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As one does.

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It's so my grandfather hopped in a little airplane, a little military aircraft with

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his buddy.

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And he flew up to Peace Air Force Base one day just because he felt like it because there

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was a coffee shop there that he really liked at the base.

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And so yeah.

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And so he steals this airplane and lands at Peace Air Force Base, just as he's like getting

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towards the coffee shop, he sees his commanding officer.

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And he had no reason to be at Peace Air Force Base.

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So immediately turns around, gets back in the plane and just flies back to Massachusetts.

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That's pretty good.

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I thought for a second, I thought for a second you were going to say he was driving from

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peace to the coffee shop and he saw his commanding officer in a plane like tailing the car.

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You mother fucker.

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You can't just steal government property like that.

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That would have been good.

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The planes are side by side.

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He just like slides down in the seat.

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So it looks like the plane's flying itself.

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Oh man.

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The autopilot from fucking what is airplanes just to fucking inflatable.

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Yeah, exactly.

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But yeah, my grandfather is my absolute hero.

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I never got to steal an airplane.

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So, you know, there's still time.

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I was gonna say we've got plenty of time, bud.

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All right.

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Well, fuck.

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I'm sorry if I'm wheezing and I breathe in a lot.

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There's forest fires all around me.

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And yeah, no, that same thing.

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Same thing here.

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There was, there's been forest fires everywhere.

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So yeah, in Pennsylvania and in South Jersey, there's forest fire.

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So my city right now, you walk outside, it looks like a post-apocalyptic world.

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It's almost like, it's almost as bad as the wildfires last year when the smoke came in

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from Canada or.

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Oh God.

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So my, my lungs are, uh, needless to say, they're not great.

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Um, uh, Sarge, are you ready to dive into today?

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I am still ready.

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You made a motion like this is a visual medium.

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I know.

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I always do that.

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No one can see me.

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Just the camera.

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I get it.

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You're used to making your little fun TikTok videos.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm taking a break.

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I, you know, I started for a little bit.

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I started coming back and then I was like, you know what?

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I need a break again.

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So um, but yes, I am.

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I can see you on the camera and I feel like everyone's watching and they're not.

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It's just me, but hey, I'm your biggest fan.

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So it doesn't matter.

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Um, all right.

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So in, uh, so we have the, uh, so Sarge and I, Cryptic cocktail party, we have the distinct

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honor of being, um, part of the, uh, I guess the influencer community, uh, for a new TCG

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coming out for anyone who doesn't know what TCG stands for.

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It stands for trading card game.

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And that is the new TCG Cryptid Camp.

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It's being run in part by, uh, Erica Fett, who you may know from the Camp Cryptid podcast.

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So I'm super excited about it.

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And in honor of us being invited into the Cryptid Camp, uh, camp, I guess, uh, I figured

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this week we would begin our journey as Cryptid Camp counselors by covering a Cryptid slash

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folkloric creature that I've always wanted to cover, but I just haven't gotten around

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to it.

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And coincidentally, not only is it one of the first prototype cards that they ever released

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to the public parts of its story kind of mirror some of the stuff happening in our country

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right now.

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So I figured, Hey, what better time than now?

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Would you say what's on fire?

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Uh, kinda.

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Uh, so, so today's search, we're going to be headed to the great state of Maryland.

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Uh, you're a Ben, I've never been, I don't think I've ever been in Maryland.

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Oh yeah.

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I've definitely been to Maryland.

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Uh, I've been to Baltimore, um, and I've been to parts that aren't terrible.

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Um, I saw Edgar Allen Poe's, uh, grave site, which is fucking cool.

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Oh hell yeah.

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I've been to Maryland a couple of times.

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Well, for those who don't know, uh, Maryland is famous for a few things.

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Uh, one of which being crabs, blue crabs.

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Uh, there's a, they have a broke ass version of clam chowder called cream of crab soup,

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whatever the fuck that is.

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And it's also home to one of the worst things to ever happen to French fries since the whole

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freedom fry nonsense.

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And that is old Bay seasoning.

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Um, it's, it's, it seems like Maryland doesn't have much going on, but, uh, but one thing

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that it does have that separates from all the other states in the union, those other

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states, they don't have what I can only describe as a nightmare half reptile, half bird, one

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eyed metallic beak tentacle monster known as the snally gaster.

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Are you familiar with the snally gasser?

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Your face says it all.

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I am, I am not.

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The snally gaster?

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You know, the snally gasser, it's a fucking nightmare, dude.

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It's not good.

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It sounds like, it sounds like you asked an Australian to name an elephant.

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No, it's a, it's so, so the snally gaster, uh, well, I guess the story of the snally

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gasser AKA the Schneller guys, AKA the Schlangen geist.

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That's my favorite Schlangen geist.

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There we go.

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Is that actually, that's translates to a snake spirit.

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We'll get to it.

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Uh, so this actually all begins way back in the 1700s when German immigrants made their

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way to the good old us of a now these settlers, which eventually became to be known as the

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Pennsylvania Dutch brought with them a rich tapestry of folklore, myths and culture as

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any good immigrant does.

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It's why we should allow them into our country periodically.

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I feel like, yeah, I agree.

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I mean, like you can't go around telling everybody you're the greatest country in the world.

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And then they're like, oh cool.

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Can I come in?

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And they're like, no, nah, dude, sucks a suck nerd.

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Among these legends and myths were stories of monsters, winged creatures and like spooky

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ass ghosts.

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Uh, actually initially the snally gase, uh, initially the snally gaster was more like

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a ghostly apparition, like a, like a, like a, like a vaporous shape that would just like

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appear to people.

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But over time, the German settlers in the Appalachian region, and especially those in

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Maryland, they started combining some of those old, like Germanic folklore stories with new

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local fears, uh, about like the untamed wilderness and the unknown of living in like in a new

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land.

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It's now the gaster began to evolve from just like a fucking, like a fuck boys vape cloud

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to just like a straight up like nightmare.

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Like like the evolution of this thing is fucking wild.

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So it started out as like a, like I said, like just like a ghostly cloud.

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So the descriptions of the snally gaster, it kind of now changes depending on who you

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ask and like where in the region you ask it.

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But Sarge, if based off the name alone, snally gaster, I want you to tell me what you think

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this thing would look like.

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Oh man, with no, with no context whatsoever.

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Snally gaster is a guy wearing an Adidas tracksuit.

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You're too far south.

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You're thinking Jersey, you're thinking Jersey, right?

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But hear me out.

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He's got a scally cap.

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Okay.

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In the 1700s, in a giant nose.

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And he says, he says, what's going on guy to everybody he runs into.

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You're describing most people outside of dives in Brockton right now.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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All right.

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What's going on guy?

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What's up kid?

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Uh, you know me just, uh, just doing my snally gaster shit.

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I'm going to start saying that whenever I do anything.

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When I, when I know I'm about to do something that is just deplorable, you know, you know

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me, I'm just on that snally gaster shit.

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So like I said, the description of the Sally gaster inside, I'm just going to tell you

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right off the bat.

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You are so far off.

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It changes depending on who you ask and we're in the region.

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So it's basically just like a chimera of all the worst things just smashed into one creature.

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So the most common description of it is that it's a large scale covered beast with a 20

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foot long tail wings, four legs with claws that are said to be glowing hot metal that

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will just fucking like ruin your whole world.

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Has a metallic beak lined with razor sharp teeth and a tongue that resembles octopus

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tentacles plural, not just one tentacle.

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It's a full on, uh, and it has a large singular glowing eye in the middle of its head.

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It also says that some descriptions give it horns.

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Either way doesn't matter.

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It has wings.

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So this fucker is airborne and it's a nightmare.

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How you feeling?

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You look upset by this description.

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I just feel like the name isn't really doing it.

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Like this thing could be called the doom dragon or like, I don't know.

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I just feel like snally gaster is a guy outside a dive bar in, in, uh, Brockton offering to

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show your girlfriend his Schlangengeist.

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But instead what we got is this monster that I feel like I've seen in a D and D session.

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Yeah, it's very, um, it's very bold.

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It's very boulders gate.

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Ask.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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You know what I mean?

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Like it's not ideal.

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The Nate, you're right.

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I don't give it justice, but you know, Schlangengeist is kinda, that does not also give it the name

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it deserves.

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Well, that's what, that's what the snally gaster calls his penis is the Schlangengeist.

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The Schlangengeist got it.

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So the, now the snally gaster was to, was believed to be a predator.

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No fucking shit.

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I would guess that metal teeth and everything.

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It was a, it was said to swoop down from the sky and grab livestock.

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And every so often I was like a little treat to itself.

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Some people now in this sense, the snally gaster represented the dangers of the new

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world that lurk just beyond the safety of home and a reminder of just like how perilous

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the wilderness was for like those early immigrants.

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Well that's why I like on, on maps, on old maps, if they didn't know what was beyond

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a certain area, they drew a monster.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Why not?

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Fuck it.

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Oh yeah, we're time jumping now.

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Okay.

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Spoiler, spoiler.

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We're, we're time jumping.

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The Snally gaster had been part of like the local folklore in the region for over a century,

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but between 1909 and 1903, that changed real fucking quick.

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Reports started coming in from all over Maryland of giant wing creatures with a metal beak

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swooping down from above, snatching livestock, buzzing houses, like a drunk pilot, probably

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your grandfather.

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All the while this thing is just like, he didn't drink though.

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He didn't drink though.

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So he was just fired up on caffeine.

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Well, either way, this thing was just screaming nonstop into the night sky.

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And I mean like literal screaming.

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I don't know what it sounded like.

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No, that also sounds like my grandfather.

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Okay.

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Fair enough.

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He was an angry man.

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I loved him for it.

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Now I don't know what it sounded like, but I am Matt.

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You ever see that video of like that pug who was trying to get his nails clipped and it's

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just screaming.

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That's what I kind of think it sounds like sort of, you know, the one talking about.

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See I was immediately thinking of the screaming goats.

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It's well, this kind of actually this pug kind of sounds like that.

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It's not far off.

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Like imagine if you see this giant metallic fucking evil dragon with molten claws and

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then it's just like, ah, ah, or like the little frog.

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You know the one I'm talking about?

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Oh, the adorable little frog.

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The angry frog.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I feel like.

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I feel like it's probably more aggressive than that, but it's way funnier to imagine

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it just being like, yeah, it's like Mike Tyson's voice.

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Like I would never make fun of the man to his face, but his voice is adorable.

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Now one of the most famous sightings came from a local farmer who said the creature

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just like straight up obliterated his lifestyle.

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Like all of it, like just absolutely slaughtered.

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Like everything he had and it left huge claw marks on trees and structures around the property

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as well as like when it ever was seen over like other local municipalities, like just

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just leave claw marks.

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Now these stories caught the attention of the media with the Washington Post covering

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a majority of them.

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Now at this time, the Washington Post wasn't like what it is now.

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It wasn't WAPO.

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You know what I mean?

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Like it was just, yeah, it was just in the area.

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And with these stories coming from somewhat credible sources, like farmers, townspeople,

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police officers, which is wild to think that in 1909 that was your credible sources.

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And with the description of the creatures being so vivid, other national news outlets

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started covering the stories and kind of grew what was like local folklore into a real living

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threat that was like actively fucking up whole communities in the area.

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Jesus.

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And now because of all this new found fame, people did what they did best.

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Can you guess what we Americans do best when there's a threat to our community?

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I want you to guess.

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An armed mob with guns and torches.

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So there was that and to add fuel to the fire, the Smithsonian Institute, like the Smithsonian

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Institute, they got involved offering a bounty for the creature for either capturing or

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killing the creature and giving them its hide.

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And here's where things get good.

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President Theodore Roosevelt, avid adventurer and hunter that he is, was rumored to have

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almost canceled a diplomatic trip to Europe to gather up a posse and try and hunt this

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thing.

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But there's no evidence that he actually made any attempt to actually do it.

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But there was talk that he did actually was like, fuck this trip.

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World War One is about to pop off.

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I don't have time for this shit.

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There's a snout, the gasser running around.

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That's what happens is without question the most American story we have told on this show.

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It's quintessential.

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And what better time to do it than Veterans Day, which I did not even know was tomorrow

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because most people don't.

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They only care about us when there's a war on.

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Yeah.

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You're not much good to us besides that.

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So, yeah, if CNN doesn't have at least one night vision footage clip, no one remembers

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that they are veterans in America.

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Now, thank you for your service.

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Now over time, this, this wave of sighting freedom, this wave of sightings and monster

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hunting died down as they always do.

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And for a little time, you know, mum was the word from the sally gasser for like a first

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a little while that is until the 1930s, specifically 19.

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Oh my God.

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Specifically 19.

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Why can't I fucking say this word specifically?

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19.

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What's the matter?

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Schlangengeist got your tongue?

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1932 when things started to ramp up again.

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What's different about these sightings, though, is that they introduce a new element to the

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sightings moonshine still see this is during the time.

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This is during the age of prohibition in the U.S. a time where I would not have thrived

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and more than likely I would have gone blind from bath bathtub gin within like the first

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year.

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But all same.

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Well during this time, there was a shit ton of illegal distilleries hidden in the remote

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areas of Maryland.

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People moonshiners claim the sally gasser was attracted to these sites for one reason

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like or another, and in the late 1932 reports came out that a sally gasser had fallen into

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a vat of boiling moonshine mash and died when discovered.

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All that were left of the of the beast was like its bones.

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But obviously no evidence was ever produced to confirm this story.

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And many believe that these 1930 sightings were just part of a hoax or some sort of like

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tactic by moonshiners as a ploy to keep police and prohibition like agents away from their

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stills.

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Or they're making high content alcoholic beverages and just getting fucked up on their own supply

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and see in all manner of pink elephants.

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It could be that.

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But I'm going to go with the previous one and say that they just started talking shit

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to make sure to try and keep people away.

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But it but it does kind of make sense considering like after 1932 sightings kind of just stopped

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again and I'm sure it's just a coincidence that prohibition happened to have ended in

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1933.

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So I'm thinking it probably has a lot more to do with them being like stay away from

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the stills, the sally.

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What is it?

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Oh, sally gasser is going to come down and get you if you touch my alcohol.

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Don't drink it.

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But this isn't the first or only example of the sally gasser being labeled as a hoax or

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being used to frighten people for some pretty fucked up reasons.

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The the sally gasser has what some would call a complex and layered background, a.k.a.

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maybe some racist shit going on.

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Yeah, this is racism in America.

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No, that's crazy.

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It's going to get we're not racist.

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So from here, it's going to get a little bummer for a minute.

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I'm sorry.

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But it's it's history.

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So history is fun, right?

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You don't.

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Yeah, it's it's you know, it's it's really fun.

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Like 1939, Germany is.

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And then, oh, no, we're going far back in American history.

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This is like 1860s America.

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We just did a great job.

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So so so in the antebellum south, which I just learned today, the antebellum means like

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pre-war and then in America, that means like pre-Civil War.

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Fun fact.

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Yeah.

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So in the antebellum south, various legends of ghosts, monsters, curses, what have you

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were used by those in power, i.e. slaveholder plantation owners to create the impression

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that the wilderness was dangerous and supernatural as a means to control and deter enslaved people

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from escaping.

489
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,840
And the legend of the Snallygaster was not immune from being used in this way.

490
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:46,840
Of course.

491
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:47,840
Yeah.

492
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,840
So escaping from enslavement and running into unknown woods or mountains already seems like

493
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,360
an impossible feat.

494
00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:59,200
Now throwing a winged, one-eyed, metallic beak, tentacle mouth monster that just happens

495
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,040
to also live in those woods and mountains.

496
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:05,520
And you're going to be slightly less inclined to want to go in there.

497
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:10,800
You know, I mean, this is really par for the course for slaveholders because they tried

498
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:17,360
other mythical beings in the Bible to justify being awful.

499
00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:21,240
And I guess when they were like, well, the Bible's not working, let's invent a molten

500
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,360
dragon creature with a hard to pronounce name.

501
00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:25,360
Here's the thing.

502
00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:26,360
The Bible's fake.

503
00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:27,360
Snallygaster is real.

504
00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:28,360
So.

505
00:26:28,360 --> 00:26:29,360
Okay.

506
00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:30,360
Fair enough.

507
00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:31,360
You make a good point.

508
00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:37,760
Now, they pretty they pretty much like put it in the enslaved people's heads that while

509
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:42,240
you may be able to avoid the master at night because he's sleeping or something like that,

510
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,720
you can't really avoid the supernatural, if that makes sense.

511
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:46,720
Yeah.

512
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,760
So they kind of use that as a tactic now.

513
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,280
But that was the seventeen hundreds.

514
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,560
What about like the sightings in like nineteen oh nine through nineteen thirteen?

515
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,120
You know, like what does that have to do?

516
00:26:58,120 --> 00:27:02,720
Well, one thing I may have left out was that many of those original reports from the time

517
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:11,360
seem to imply or just straight up say that the snallygaster only praise at night and

518
00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:15,280
specifically on black people.

519
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,400
Now, god damn it.

520
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,280
God damn it.

521
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:26,360
You know, this is just some mongo fucking Klansman riding around with like a torch,

522
00:27:26,360 --> 00:27:30,440
blowing fire at people because he's got moonshine in his mouth.

523
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:31,440
God damn it.

524
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,920
It's not Spring Hill Jack or the devil of the dunes that we talked about the very first

525
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:36,920
time he came on.

526
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:37,920
No one's blowing fire.

527
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:43,920
And we're going to get to it now on February 12th, 1909, which just happens to be the same

528
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:50,160
day that the NAACP was founded, a newspaper called the Valley Register had a headline

529
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:55,920
about the Snallygaster that read, quote, The colored people are in great danger, end quote.

530
00:27:55,920 --> 00:28:01,040
And then went on to say that, quote, This vampire devil only attacks colored people.

531
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,560
It is seldom seen during the day feeding at night only.

532
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:09,840
And the strange part is, is that it seems to prefer colored men to colored women, though

533
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,920
it attacks the latter at times.

534
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:12,920
End quote.

535
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,320
There's more of these, but if you want to say something, get it out now.

536
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:21,720
So the Snallygaster is essentially like Jim Crow, Alabama, really just targeting black

537
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:22,720
folks.

538
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,000
Well, all right.

539
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,440
I wrote this down later on in the script, but I will say this.

540
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,040
The Snallygaster wasn't invented for this.

541
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,200
It was used by white people.

542
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:39,360
So you can say whatever you want, but the Snallygaster, its origins aren't specifically

543
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:44,680
to disparage and to control the African-American black community.

544
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:45,680
Yeah.

545
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,760
Neither were the police, but that's eventually where it went.

546
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:55,360
Well, I mean, that's not, I think they kind of were.

547
00:28:55,360 --> 00:29:00,520
The police specifically, I think were used for that.

548
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:01,520
I'm sorry.

549
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:02,520
I meant the constitution.

550
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,920
No, that too was also invented too.

551
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:05,920
Yeah.

552
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:06,920
Fuck.

553
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:07,920
No.

554
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:08,920
Why is America so fucking racist?

555
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,320
Why can't I have a cryptid that's just bad ass?

556
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,320
It's a doom dragon.

557
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:18,240
Then there has been a lot of like a controversy over the Snallygaster recently, which is weird

558
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:23,160
because most folkloric and or cryptid, I mean, a lot of them can date back.

559
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:29,400
Like the fucking Mothman was born out of a fucking legend about a native American chief

560
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:30,400
getting murdered.

561
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:35,160
I mean, like it all kind of goes back to us white people being just the worst puck wudgies,

562
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,160
all of that stuff.

563
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,360
The, the legend of Mount Chikora.

564
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:38,480
Would you just call me?

565
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:39,480
The curse.

566
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:40,480
I'm sorry.

567
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:41,480
The curse of Mount Chikora.

568
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:42,480
Yeah.

569
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:48,200
So another article written around that time included a statement from an eyewitness that

570
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:53,480
said that the Snallygaster was quote, an omen of ill for colored voters who deserted the

571
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:58,700
Republican party in the presidential election and quote, with other outlets reporting.

572
00:29:58,700 --> 00:30:05,720
And I hesitate to say this, but this is the quote, quote, this is the headline.

573
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,800
White bird preys upon Negro children after dark.

574
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:09,800
End quote.

575
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:10,800
Yeah.

576
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:11,800
It's not great.

577
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:16,000
Uh, so the Snallygaster is taking black jobs is what you're saying.

578
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:21,000
No, unless you're saying that black people prey on other black children at night.

579
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,000
No, no, no, no.

580
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,640
I mean, that's what I'm saying is a Snallygaster has taken black jobs.

581
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:31,600
The Snallygaster is, is, is, you know, the, the new boogie is the boogeyman of its time.

582
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,640
Oh, cause like, gotcha.

583
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:38,720
Cause the Democrats were taking black jobs and now it's before that it was a Snallygaster.

584
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:39,720
Yeah.

585
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,560
Uh, Jesus fucking Christ.

586
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:46,360
Now one source that I used for a lot of this was, uh, Atlas Obscura.

587
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,520
They're really good.

588
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,640
If you don't know that they're phenomenal.

589
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:50,640
So good.

590
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:51,640
Yeah.

591
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,800
Uh, they had a quote from one of their sources, a book called Knight writers and black folk

592
00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:01,760
history by Gladys Marie Frye that for anyone listening that may be confused by what exactly

593
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:06,960
the tactics being used here are, I think that this kind of sums it up pretty well.

594
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,860
Cause it's probably better than either me and you could ever, cause I know what's happening.

595
00:31:11,860 --> 00:31:14,840
You know what's happening, but how do you put into words what's happening?

596
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:19,880
So they said, quote, the primary aim of such pressure was to discourage the unauthorized

597
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:24,880
movement of blacks, especially at night by making them afraid of encountering supernatural

598
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,080
beings from the post civil war to world war one.

599
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:33,560
The method helped to stem the black movement from rural farming communities to the S of

600
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,840
in the South, to the urban industrial centers of the North.

601
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:42,880
Basically what's happening here is that they're using the supernatural and the superstitious

602
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:47,680
aspect of like the African American community and the black community to drive them from

603
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,320
the South to the North.

604
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,920
They want to get you all, everyone out of there.

605
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:56,800
So now it's probably no coincidence that around the turn of the century, you did see a lot

606
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:01,160
of black people start like leaving the rural and mountainous parts of Maryland for urban

607
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,960
environments like Baltimore and even further North.

608
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:04,960
Yeah.

609
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:09,440
So, and there are many more examples of this type of reporting on the sally gaster in the

610
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:14,720
1900s, but I think it's super important to note again that like the story and myth of

611
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,480
the sally gaster wasn't created specifically for this purpose.

612
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:23,720
It's just us whites being whites and just using it to try and, you know, to our advantage.

613
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,720
Crack is going to crack.

614
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:26,720
Yeah.

615
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:31,880
The legend had been in circulation for a while, just like the timing wasn't great for this

616
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,600
story to be around.

617
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,200
You know what I mean?

618
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,480
Just makes me so angry.

619
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:37,480
Yeah.

620
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:38,600
Well, I mean, expand on that.

621
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,200
How are you feeling right now about the sally gaster as a whole?

622
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:46,600
And then also what it's being, you know, I feel like this, I feel bad for the sally gaster.

623
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:47,600
Honestly, right?

624
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,760
Like, I can't imagine this dragon's like, no, no, no, no.

625
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,840
I only like that version of human.

626
00:32:54,840 --> 00:33:00,000
But also like it just, it frustrates me anytime there's something to be afraid of that a group

627
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:07,160
will will cling to it and then try to target people, like weaponize it towards a specific

628
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,160
group of people.

629
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,160
It's fucked up.

630
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:14,240
Which if you just look through our history, it's something we've been doing forever.

631
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,240
Oh yeah.

632
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,200
It's happened to every marginalized group.

633
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:23,560
And it's so frustrating to me because it's like, this is, this is like a folktale, like

634
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,280
a harmless fucking folktale.

635
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:27,280
Yeah.

636
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:32,800
And they're just going after people with it and being like, no, no, no, it's coming right

637
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:33,800
for you.

638
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,200
If you happen to leave your house at night to move to a better place.

639
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,200
Yeah.

640
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,200
Like, come on.

641
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,160
No, this is so, so this is, I didn't even leave.

642
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,800
I left out the, there's a whole portion of this.

643
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:50,000
That's like the xenophobia of the, I mean, that was really big in the early 1900s.

644
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,000
Oh no, I'm talking about against the Italians.

645
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,440
I'm talking about like the Germans who brought this here.

646
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:56,680
Like there was Germans too.

647
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:57,680
There was like Germans.

648
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:03,160
Like I didn't put any of that in because let's put it this way.

649
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,080
German Americans are doing just fine.

650
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,080
Yeah.

651
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,080
Yeah.

652
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,080
No, they're doing fine.

653
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,080
Yeah.

654
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,600
Just like the Irish, the Irish caught it for a while, but they're doing okay.

655
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:12,600
Yeah.

656
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,600
But Hey, Sarge, let's, let's move on to, so why some people may have thought this little

657
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:17,600
guy was a hoax.

658
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:23,240
We'll, we'll move on from our terrible history and you know, just kind of fucking.

659
00:34:23,240 --> 00:34:27,080
There's only so much awful things about this country that I can take in the, in the course

660
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,080
of a day.

661
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,080
Yeah.

662
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,320
Especially cause I volunteered to die for it at one point.

663
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:32,320
Thank you for your service.

664
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,320
Yeah.

665
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:34,320
You're welcome for your freedom.

666
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,480
I'm sorry about gas prices.

667
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:46,320
So we, we've, I think, I think it's like a common trope that immigrants are bad.

668
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,440
And if you look across the world, this has just been a typical thing.

669
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:57,160
It's part of the reason why the Roma got shit on so much because they just frequently traveled.

670
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,160
Just stop moving around.

671
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,360
So that frustrates me, you know, but I also feel really bad about the Snallygaster because

672
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,600
this is, this is like such a harmless little fucking folklore thing.

673
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:05,600
Like is it harmless?

674
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:11,200
It has talons made out of molten metal and a beak that has full on hentai coming out

675
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,800
of it.

676
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,560
So essentially it's just, you know, a predator drone.

677
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:17,560
Fair enough.

678
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:18,560
Thanks Obama.

679
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:19,560
It's there to help.

680
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:25,200
This can all be traced back to Obama.

681
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:26,200
Yeah.

682
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,920
That's I've been saying that a lot recently because that was my favorite thing to say

683
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:29,920
back in the day.

684
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:30,920
It's so good.

685
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:35,160
Now, like I said, we're going to talk about how this thing may be a hoax.

686
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,080
And when I say hoax, I mean it like in like the pretty loosest of terms.

687
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:44,640
So when the Snallygaster gained all that widespread attention in the early 1900s, like reports

688
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:49,360
of sightings grew, which meant more stories to sensationalize and publish.

689
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:54,600
Now this leads some historians to think that some papers, mainly the Valley Register, the

690
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,440
one who did a lot of that racist shit may have been fabricating stories of the Snallygaster

691
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,280
as a way to like boost sales.

692
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:07,520
Their articles were like always wildly sensationalized and they relied heavily on super dramatic

693
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,000
descriptions that would draw in more readers, more eyes, stuff like that.

694
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,400
So like the New York Post.

695
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,400
Yeah.

696
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,960
Or the Washington Examiner or every other newspaper.

697
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:17,960
Yeah.

698
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,680
But what I found out while writing this is that this type of writing paired with the

699
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:26,920
fact that like newspaper hoaxes were a popular form of entertainment and publicity for the

700
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,880
papers, kind of like national inquire type shit.

701
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,640
Like it led tabloid media.

702
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:38,560
Yeah, it led people to suggest that the Snallygaster legend was in part at least stoked more by

703
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,640
financial reasons rather than like genuine eyewitness accounts.

704
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:49,360
So they think that like these newspapers, especially this one, was like just full on

705
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:54,040
fabricating stories to try and like boost sales, which I mean, it makes sense.

706
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,040
Why wouldn't you?

707
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,040
I mean, right.

708
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,040
It's 1909.

709
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,880
Who the fuck's fact checking you?

710
00:36:58,880 --> 00:36:59,880
Do you even have fact checkers?

711
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:00,880
Yeah.

712
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:06,160
Like it takes five days for you to hear news from four towns over.

713
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:07,840
Like it's no one's going to.

714
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:13,040
Well, it was like it was a popular trope back in the day to say that your political opponent

715
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:19,920
had died because it took forever to to dispel that.

716
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:20,920
That's great.

717
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:21,920
We should go back to that.

718
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:22,920
That's real funny.

719
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:30,280
Like like Ben Franklin actually, Ben Franklin used that trope against somebody and he held

720
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,900
it out for like a full year saying that the guy had been dead, even though like people

721
00:37:34,900 --> 00:37:36,500
kept saying he was alive.

722
00:37:36,500 --> 00:37:38,040
And then he finally did die.

723
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:42,480
And Ben Franklin was like, I commend his supporters for finally admitting the truth.

724
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,040
That's so fucking good.

725
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,360
Yeah, it's pretty awesome.

726
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:51,180
No, with like with like the financial reasons and all that stuff, you add in the fact that

727
00:37:51,180 --> 00:37:56,400
there's no solid evidence that the Snallygaster has ever been produced, no remains or definitive

728
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:02,480
tracks, and that paired with the over the top descriptions and like media sensationalism.

729
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:08,480
A lot of historians and even a lot of cryptozoologists pretty much agree that the Snallygaster was

730
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:13,480
little more than like a hoax or a myth fueled by newspapers for profit.

731
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:19,160
And I mean, it kind of was fueled more by trying to get black people out of the South.

732
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,740
But I mean, profit was definitely part of it.

733
00:38:21,740 --> 00:38:25,480
But also, like it's it's just a folkloric tale.

734
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,920
Like you know, I mean, like it was.

735
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:29,920
That's what makes me so mad.

736
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,400
Like I just want to enjoy a fun tale.

737
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,000
And then I find out racism.

738
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,000
Yeah.

739
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,080
But I mean, Sarge, god damn it, you fuckers.

740
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,600
Stop ruining good stuff.

741
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,280
We'll always have robot flowers, though.

742
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,560
There was nothing racist about robot flowers.

743
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:44,960
Nothing racist about robot flowers.

744
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,040
We're always going to have the robot flowers.

745
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,560
And for me, that's enough.

746
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:51,640
But yeah, so there you have it, Sarge.

747
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,440
That is the story of the Snallygaster.

748
00:38:55,440 --> 00:39:00,880
It's maybe we should have done this as our first episode as part of like trying to promote

749
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,880
Cryptid Camp.

750
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:03,880
But you know what?

751
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:04,880
Fuck it.

752
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:05,880
I love the Snallygaster.

753
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,280
The imagery is fucking wild.

754
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,520
I'll send you a picture of what like artists descriptions of this thing.

755
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,480
And it's a fucking nightmare, dude.

756
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:14,960
I'm I. Here's the thing.

757
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,920
I don't think the Snallygaster is racist.

758
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,200
I think racist people tried to steal the Snallygaster.

759
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,440
Yeah, it's like cultural appropriation.

760
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:24,440
But for like cryptids.

761
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:29,440
It's just like the racist people tried to steal the Don't Tread on Me flag.

762
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,840
True, which makes no sense.

763
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,680
It makes me so mad because I love that flag so much.

764
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:40,960
And I can't hang it anymore because people now think that I read the Bible and shit.

765
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:45,480
The funniest thing about the Don't Tread on Me flag is that like you can't fly that and

766
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:51,280
the Blue Lives Matter flag like the pro cop flag, because, you know, when you're going

767
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,680
to get treaded on, you know who's going to tread on you.

768
00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:00,880
You know, definitely, definitely going to be somebody with a gun who's who's encouraged

769
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:01,880
to use it.

770
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:02,880
Yeah.

771
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,360
So it's the fucking it's wild.

772
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:09,320
I love it so much, though, because it just shows like how in tune they are with their

773
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,360
environment and the world around them.

774
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:12,360
All right.

775
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:13,360
Sorry.

776
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:14,720
So that is that is a story.

777
00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:15,800
What do you think?

778
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,280
Beginning to end, give me your thoughts.

779
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,200
I'm sure you have a lot of thoughts.

780
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,200
Maybe not.

781
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,200
I fucking love this thing.

782
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,080
I want it to be real so bad.

783
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:30,320
And I hope that everyone who thinks it's it's going after black people, I hope it eats those

784
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:31,320
people instead.

785
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:36,920
Yeah, because it wasn't like I picture the Snallygaster like having a big pride flag

786
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:37,920
at its house.

787
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,640
Yeah, it's a big Black Lives Matter supporter.

788
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:45,640
It's got a Chay Gravera t shirt like the Snallygaster is all about.

789
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:50,240
No, yeah, I get it.

790
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:55,400
It's I would love of like the Snallygaster were real and it preferred white people because

791
00:40:55,400 --> 00:41:04,680
it knows that like it knows there's too many of them.

792
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:15,280
I just I think that like it's it's not uncommon for the group in power to use folklore against

793
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:16,440
a marginalized community.

794
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,800
If you look at it was used a whole bunch back in the day.

795
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:24,520
Yeah, I mean, if you look at Vandyman's Land, which is now Tasmania, I believe it's now

796
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,360
Tasmania down in Australia.

797
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:29,560
That was that was really common.

798
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:34,080
They would talk about the Tasmanian devil and the Tasmanian tiger and these like, you

799
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:39,320
know, mythically terrifying creatures that are literally just, you know, small, soupy

800
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,760
predators that live in the fucking woods.

801
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:42,760
Yeah.

802
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:43,760
Yeah.

803
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,560
And they would tell him these horrible stories that they're going to like eat you alive.

804
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,240
And then you see what a real life and it looks like a dingo.

805
00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:50,440
It's just like this little tiny dog creature.

806
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:55,600
I mean, Australians still do that to outsiders with the drop bear and stuff like that.

807
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:56,600
Yeah.

808
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,480
But which is fine, because Australia is arguably the scariest continent on the planet.

809
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:01,480
It's all.

810
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:02,480
Yeah.

811
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:03,480
Fuck that place.

812
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:04,480
I want to go so bad.

813
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:05,480
It's all murder.

814
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:06,480
Every creature there wants to kill you.

815
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,400
Even though even the koalas are like, I'll find a way.

816
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:14,160
Yeah, there's nothing great about Australia, but I do want to go.

817
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,160
But mostly to the coast.

818
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:16,680
I don't want to I don't want to deal with that.

819
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:17,680
Yeah.

820
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,920
I mean, that's where the arts that's where all the cults and incest are.

821
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:20,920
Yeah, I've seen Wolf Creek.

822
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,360
I don't need that shit in my life.

823
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:23,360
All right.

824
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:24,360
Yeah.

825
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:25,800
And that wasn't an attack on Australia.

826
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,600
No, it is for me.

827
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:32,280
Because for me, it is the whole bottom part of our country is all cults and incest.

828
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:33,280
True.

829
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:34,280
But also.

830
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,920
No, I was going to say Australia is founded by criminals.

831
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,160
I think we kind of work too, in a way.

832
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,600
But anyways, what Ireland was as well.

833
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:43,600
So.

834
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:48,320
All right, with that all out of the way, do you want to.

835
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,320
Your story, look it up.

836
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,320
I'm not lying.

837
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:51,400
The island founded by criminals.

838
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:52,400
I believe that.

839
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,200
Is there anything you want to plug before I get into Shpil about plug and stuff?

840
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:57,200
Yes.

841
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:02,560
Saja Supernormal is still around and probably need it more now more than ever.

842
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:07,000
It's a coloring book about all all of the fun stuff that I talk about.

843
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:13,080
But there's also some some digs at some political figures that we may not all be pleased with.

844
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:19,040
So please get my coloring book at Saja's supernormal dot com.

845
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:24,600
All one word spelled like it sounds, unless you're a weird person who would put a J in

846
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:25,600
Sarge.

847
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:26,600
That's weird.

848
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,680
Sarge's supernormal dot com.

849
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:29,920
You can get my coloring book.

850
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:30,920
Nine ninety nine.

851
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,360
Lots of fun.

852
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,520
And then send me your pictures.

853
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,920
I want to see the coloring that you do.

854
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,200
There's also like word searches and amaze.

855
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:39,520
It's fun.

856
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:44,480
Sarge, this is the first time you've plugged your coloring book and you haven't accidentally

857
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:45,760
called it a comic book.

858
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:46,760
I'm very proud of you.

859
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,280
I think this is growth.

860
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,560
This is growth as a human.

861
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:50,920
And I'm very proud of you, buddy.

862
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,680
Thanks so much for listening.

863
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,560
Make sure you check out Cryptid Camp TCG dot com.

864
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:57,680
Please check out Cryptid Camp.

865
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,320
The cards are so cool and they're such great people.

866
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:01,680
I follow them on Instagram.

867
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,640
I love the stuff they put out.

868
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:04,920
Very excited to be a part of this group.

869
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,240
If you want to learn more about it, like I said, hit up their website.

870
00:44:07,240 --> 00:44:09,320
There'll be a link in the episode description.

871
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,600
If you like what you see and you want to, you know, back them on Kickstarter, get a

872
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:18,720
booster box, a couple of decks, maybe whatever, you can head to Kickstarter dot com slash

873
00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:21,160
projects slash Cryptid Camp.

874
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,760
It'll show you everything you need to know.

875
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,480
I'm very excited about it.

876
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:25,480
Super stoked.

877
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:26,480
Sarge is very excited.

878
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:27,480
His kids are excited.

879
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:28,480
You got 19 days.

880
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:29,480
Actually, you know what?

881
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,560
When this comes out, there'll be 18 days left to back them on Kickstarter.

882
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,480
And then after that.

883
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:36,760
Who knows?

884
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:41,480
They were funded in they were fully funded in less than an hour when it launched.

885
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:42,840
So that's amazing.

886
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:43,840
Yeah.

887
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:44,840
So I'm very hyped about it.

888
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:45,840
I'm so excited.

889
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:50,160
I love I love playing games with my friends when we're drinking beers.

890
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,480
But I also my kids and I love to play games.

891
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,940
We get very competitive, slightly antagonistic.

892
00:44:56,940 --> 00:45:01,440
We are cool to each other in the spirit of competitiveness.

893
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,320
So I'm very much looking forward to this.

894
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:09,960
So I'm I'm going to make a bunch of like weird drunk Tim and Eric, Eric Andre style videos

895
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:14,480
for take an Instagram after this.

896
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,840
So you'll see some fucked up shit.

897
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,800
But anyways, yeah, go be fun.

898
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:19,800
Go support them.

899
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:20,800
It's awesome.

900
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,880
Like I said, Erica from came crypto podcast.

901
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:24,880
She's in this.

902
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:29,120
And that's the only reason like that's why I'm putting my confidence behind it is because

903
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,260
her show is amazing.

904
00:45:30,260 --> 00:45:31,260
She's amazing.

905
00:45:31,260 --> 00:45:35,160
She's a big supporter of our show, which is weird because she has like nine thousand times

906
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,080
more followers.

907
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:42,080
But hey, all I'm saying is that she put her faith in us to help try and spread the word

908
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:43,080
to this.

909
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,880
So I'm putting my faith in her to create a good product.

910
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,800
And that's all any of us can ever ask for.

911
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:53,320
You can find links to all these things in the link in our Instagram at Crypto Cocktail

912
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,920
follows on TikTok Crypto Cocktail Party.

913
00:45:55,920 --> 00:46:04,240
Sarge, you can find all of his social media in the same link underneath our Instagram.

914
00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:09,280
And also, once again, just to remind everyone, we are the twenty twenty four best pod cryptic

915
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,000
podcast award winners.

916
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,240
So award winning podcast.

917
00:46:13,240 --> 00:46:14,240
Yeah.

918
00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:17,280
So we don't I mean, we show a lot of things.

919
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,480
And by that I mean, Narragansett drink Narragansett, you can see in the background.

920
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,400
Drink Narragansett beer, God damn it.

921
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:23,400
Yeah.

922
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,400
Don't be a fucking goon.

923
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:31,180
So we don't we don't we we we only show things that we believe in, obviously.

924
00:46:31,180 --> 00:46:34,520
So we're not trying to fucking sell you some snake oil.

925
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:39,280
But I mean, I just I can promise you we're never going to talk about fucking cryptocurrency.

926
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,320
So yeah, unless it's cryptocurrency.

927
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,680
Yeah, that would be just coins that have like Mothman books.

928
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,200
All right.

929
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,480
So with that out of the way, Sarge, would you like to say goodbye?

930
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,160
I love you to the audience.

931
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:57,120
Hey, you guys, may the blessings of Mothman be upon you.

932
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:58,180
And I love you.

933
00:46:58,180 --> 00:47:21,480
And also upon you.

