1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:25,320 Hey everybody. 2 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,400 Welcome back to another episode of cryptic cocktail party, a show where we have a few 3 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,800 tricks, share a few laughs, take a dive into the unknown. 4 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:32,240 I'm your host Dave. 5 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:33,600 Sarge is not with me today. 6 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,600 He, uh, he has plate full the past couple of weeks with me being gone. 7 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:37,940 So I took gave him the day off. 8 00:00:37,940 --> 00:00:43,560 So I'm being joined by none other than Nicholas Einstmann, host of Oh, look, another ghost 9 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:44,560 podcast. 10 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:45,560 How's it going buddy? 11 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,880 Dave, it is, it is going great. 12 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,160 You know, I figured that for those of you who won't be able to see the name that I've 13 00:00:51,160 --> 00:00:57,960 chosen for Riverside, I've chosen the copse corpse of Paul Revere in honor of Sarge because 14 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:59,560 you know, he's Mr. New England. 15 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:00,560 Yeah. 16 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,880 He's actually in Boston right now, um, doing something. 17 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:03,880 I don't know. 18 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:04,880 I don't know what he's doing. 19 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:09,040 Boston things, probably going to Dunkin donuts, fighting a cop, you know, you know, just random 20 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,880 Boston stuff, whatever he needs is I see it. 21 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:12,880 Nathaniel Hall. 22 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:13,880 It's fun. 23 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,480 So what's new, but how's, uh, how are things with you? 24 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,620 How's life? 25 00:01:19,620 --> 00:01:21,480 Things are, things are good. 26 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:27,080 Uh, I'm currently going like a bomb in my house and redecorating everything. 27 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:33,600 Uh, much to the dismay of my roommate and my girlfriend, but it's, it's fine. 28 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:34,600 Things are good. 29 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:35,600 Who's your roommate? 30 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:36,600 My roommate is my dad. 31 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,040 I had my dad move in. 32 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:46,720 It's actually great, but he is very confused why everything is now like off the walls and 33 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:51,800 he has more random movie posters in his room from like the fifties, all of which are starring 34 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:56,800 Bill Gosey because I thought it'd be funny to put like the five Dracula movies he's in, 35 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:57,800 in his room. 36 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:02,040 I just, just, just, just, it'd be funny to hear you say that your roommate is your dad. 37 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:06,440 Cause that's like, it's a recipe like Nick Swartzon from, uh, grandma's boy. 38 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:07,440 He's very much my roommate. 39 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:08,440 I know. 40 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:09,440 Oh yeah. 41 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:14,960 Uh, for those of you who don't know, uh, Nick started a new podcast. 42 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,360 It's called, uh, Oh, look another ghost. 43 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:23,080 It's a paranormal podcast covering a wider range of stuff from ghosts, cryptids, aliens. 44 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,320 I'm sure there's more esoteric stuff that I'm forgetting, but you know, just random 45 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:31,760 shit that's, that's spooky and, uh, you know, spooky. 46 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:32,760 Yeah. 47 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:33,760 Yeah. 48 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,800 That's, that's pretty much the, uh, the basis behind it, right? 49 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:41,160 It was, it started off because, uh, I didn't want to keep bombarding Anya with random, 50 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,680 like ghost facts or alien abductions when we were driving plas spaces. 51 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,400 So I was like, you know what? 52 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,840 I'm going to start a podcast and I can still tell you this information, but at least it's 53 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:54,000 more, you know, productive air quotes. 54 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,000 Exactly. 55 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,000 Yeah. 56 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:02,200 It's not as patronizing or annoying when it's in a medium that other people listen to and 57 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,440 you're not just screaming it into her ears. 58 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:05,440 Yeah. 59 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:10,080 You know, not just like drunk off of, you know, uh, banquets like, and then Benny and 60 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:15,520 Barney Hill in Laconia, New Hampshire, believe it or not, I actually drove past the gas station 61 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:20,200 and I went to the gas station not too long ago and for Coney, you were telling me, dude, 62 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:21,200 it's so cool. 63 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:22,200 It is cool. 64 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:23,200 It's so cool. 65 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:30,240 Um, yeah, it jinks you owe me a soda or Narragansett's Mr. Award winning podcast. 66 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,280 I do have, I do have a case in arrogance before you that you can have. 67 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:38,400 Uh, the other thing too is, uh, today I'm going to be drinking out of this blood bag. 68 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,960 It's a, I got it from my work. 69 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:42,960 Don't worry about it. 70 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,200 It's mostly just wild Turkey, one Oh one and Kool-Aid. 71 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:46,880 So this is going to be a fun episode. 72 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,280 Are you ready to dive in today's episode? 73 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:49,280 Nick? 74 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:50,280 Yeah. 75 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:56,120 Let me take a sip of my really poorly made highball with a Mandarin orange tasting seltzer 76 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:57,640 and Japanese whiskey. 77 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:58,640 That's all I have in my house. 78 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:04,160 Apparently this is actually surprisingly, it smells stronger than it tastes. 79 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:05,160 This is going to be dangerous. 80 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:06,160 All right. 81 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,440 So Nick, so it's the course of the show. 82 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,080 We've covered a lot of weird topics. 83 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,680 Me and you together on this show have covered some pretty weird fucking topics. 84 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,680 A lot of different things like sightings of cryptids, aliens, and a paranormal mongoose 85 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,760 with the personality and maturity level of a 4chan user. 86 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,440 Uh, my name is Jeff. 87 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,600 And uh, we always, Oh, try like at the end of the episode, try to like break down the 88 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,040 stories from both like a believers and a skeptics point of view. 89 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:31,040 Hold on. 90 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,040 Let me rephrase that. 91 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,720 Uh, what we do is we find other people's theories about what may have happened and then talk 92 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,440 shit about all the ones we don't like. 93 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,400 And then we just go with the ones that we think is the most fun because fuck you. 94 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:42,400 Right. 95 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:43,400 So that's the show. 96 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:44,400 That's what we're going to do. 97 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,520 Uh, but one theory is always popping up and it's a reason behind a sighted, like sightings 98 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:54,040 witnessed by multiple people, whether it be like a cryptid, a UFO, aliens, hauntings, 99 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:55,160 whatever. 100 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,820 This one's always tossing the mix is mass or shared delusions. 101 00:04:58,820 --> 00:05:04,480 So yeah, so I wanted to know just like, what the fuck is a shared delusion. 102 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,160 So I did some digging and I decided to do a whole episode about it. 103 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,240 Oh, this is going to be, I have some serious thoughts. 104 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:13,840 On the mass hysteria phenomena. 105 00:05:13,840 --> 00:05:14,840 Yeah. 106 00:05:14,840 --> 00:05:20,840 So, so really don't know, uh, shared delusions or fully ado, uh, which literally translates 107 00:05:20,840 --> 00:05:26,080 to madness of two refer to situations where delusional beliefs or even sometimes hallucinations, 108 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:31,200 um, or for lack of a better term, they're like transmitted from one person to another. 109 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,280 Uh, but it's not just limited to being between two people. 110 00:05:34,280 --> 00:05:39,520 There's also folly a place yours, which translates to madness with others, which is basically 111 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:44,360 the same concept, but is for one, like the delusions are shared with within like groups, 112 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,360 usually cropping up in like isolated settings. 113 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,840 And like these individuals will just feed into and reinforce other people's delusions. 114 00:05:51,840 --> 00:05:54,080 It's like that movie you're seeing the movie bug. 115 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,120 I think it's called with, uh, I, I don't know. 116 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,200 All I know is you said madness of two or whatever. 117 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,200 What was the, the, the saying that you just said? 118 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,000 Folly ado. 119 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:08,400 So is that the hit 2024 movie joker too, that just came out? 120 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:09,400 No, it's actually, 121 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,080 we're actually going to be talking about the, uh, the fall out boy album called folly ado 122 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,800 featuring one of my favorite songs, America's sweethearts. 123 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,440 Uh, it's a, it's a bit of a deep cut there. 124 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:20,440 It's one of my friends. 125 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:21,440 Yeah. 126 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,800 It's a, it's not one of their most well received albums. 127 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:30,200 Uh, no, some notable examples in recent history of shared delusions, massive, whatever you 128 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:35,600 want to call it, uh, include cases like the Collier brothers, uh, Homer and Langley. 129 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,880 These brothers came from an extraordinarily wealthy family, but after their parents passed, 130 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,000 they became like full on shut-ins over time. 131 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,520 They became paranoid about thieves and were fully convinced that others wanted to break 132 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,560 into their home and steal their stuff. 133 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:53,680 So they began stockpiling and hoarding all of their things and even setting elaborate 134 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:58,920 home alone style traps throughout the mansion to deter those like imagined intruders from 135 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:00,160 gaining entry. 136 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:05,480 Uh, by the time the police discovered their bodies in 1947, the Collier brothers mansion 137 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:12,440 was filled with 140 tons of shit, including newspapers, pianos, multiple pianos, and a 138 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,920 full on model T Ford car. 139 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,080 All right. 140 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:21,480 So my, my first question here, not even question, just thought, have you ever seen the movie 141 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:22,480 mouse trap? 142 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,480 No, but I played the game. 143 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:26,480 All right. 144 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,200 So it's pretty much the same concept. 145 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:30,280 It's the same concept. 146 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,680 These two brothers just like rig their house full of booby traps, but they're trying to 147 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,000 get killed this one mouse. 148 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,360 And that's my first, first thought process. 149 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,480 This sounds like it would have like Nathan, like a Nathan Lane in it. 150 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:43,960 Is this a Nathan Lane movie? 151 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:49,600 No, you know, the guy from bird cage, not Robin Williams, the other one, Nathan Lane. 152 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:50,600 Is it Nathan Lane? 153 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:51,600 Nathan Lane. 154 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:52,600 Yes. 155 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:53,600 You know what? 156 00:07:53,600 --> 00:08:03,800 I'm going to look this up really quick, but that was a, a staple in the Eintzeman household. 157 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:08,080 Oh, I'm going to hate myself for not knowing this. 158 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,600 Well, you're looking that up. 159 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,160 Let's, I'll just keep going. 160 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:19,120 But yeah, but pretty much their fear of being robbed, like their self isolation and their 161 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:24,760 paranoia led to them just accumulating so much stuff that it ultimately led to their deaths 162 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,960 because they were unable to navigate their own barricade at home. 163 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,160 They basically trapped themselves in their own home with garbage, which if you ever seen 164 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:36,600 the show hoarders, see, it seems pretty much on point. 165 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:37,600 Yeah. 166 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:38,600 Yeah. 167 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,000 Now you also got cases like the silent twins, June and Jennifer Gibbons. 168 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:46,560 These are twin sisters from Wales who became pretty well known for their weirdest fuck 169 00:08:46,560 --> 00:08:47,800 behavior. 170 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:53,480 They developed their own language where they were socially withdrawn and just like unhealthily 171 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:54,480 codependent. 172 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,960 And as they grew older, their, their shared world got a little darker. 173 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:02,520 They started dabbling in petty crimes like, you know, theft and arson. 174 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,320 Got it. 175 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:05,320 They're usual. 176 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:06,320 Yeah. 177 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:07,320 Just light stuff. 178 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:14,300 Their relationship was weird because both sisters would blame the other for their troubles, 179 00:09:14,300 --> 00:09:17,240 but also refused to function independently from one another. 180 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:23,320 So I don't, they're just kind of, yeah, it's just a little, little off. 181 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,760 Also it was Nathan Lane's, but Christopher Walken is also in that movie. 182 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,520 I'm going to watch it later to be honest. 183 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:30,520 All right. 184 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:37,280 Now eventually after years of like some unknown shared delusion and some time in a psychiatric 185 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:44,400 hospital, Jennifer died under strange circumstances, which apparently she had predicted what happened 186 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,160 and was also fulfilling some sort of pact that the twins had, but no one knew what it 187 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,340 was because they speak their own fucking language. 188 00:09:50,340 --> 00:09:52,000 It's weird as shit. 189 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:57,080 But after Jennifer died, June just became like a normal person. 190 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:01,280 She's just like, yeah, I'm, I'm fine now. 191 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:02,280 You're good. 192 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:03,280 Yeah. 193 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:04,280 Yeah. 194 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:09,240 I mean, I've, I've heard of this, you know, this case a little bit and every time I hear 195 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:15,440 of it, I'm just like, you know, was the one sister that was fine after the other one died, 196 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,200 was she just playing along? 197 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:18,200 I don't know. 198 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:23,760 I think it's just like once the other person or once, yeah, like once the, once one of 199 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,800 the people is out of the shared delusion, I think it kind of just like, you kind of 200 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,800 start seeing the world for what it is and not what is in your head. 201 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:31,800 If that makes sense. 202 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,600 Cause there was that family in Australia that like they all shared a delusion and then they 203 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,360 all fucking abandoned their homes and just started driving in a car and one by one as 204 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,440 like they got further and further away from their home. 205 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,520 Like they just kind of like, this is crazy, right? 206 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,400 And they would just bounce and then it just slowly did that until the everyone was fine 207 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:49,400 again. 208 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:50,400 Yeah. 209 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,960 I don't know. 210 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,680 But those are just examples. 211 00:10:54,680 --> 00:10:57,840 The last case and the real case I want to talk about and the one that this episode, like 212 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,680 I said, is mainly going to focus on and actually like we're going to dive into this is that 213 00:11:01,680 --> 00:11:06,480 of Gloria Ramirez, a 31 year old mother or two. 214 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:11,080 She is at the center of one of the most perplexing medical mysteries that has taken place over 215 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,960 the past, like in the past, like 20 years. 216 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:18,080 Now you and listeners may not know the name Gloria Ramirez, but it's possible you might 217 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,280 be more familiar with the name given to her by the media. 218 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,680 And that is the toxic lady. 219 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:25,360 Are you familiar with the toxic lady? 220 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,840 I want to say yes, but I did just watch the toxic Avenger last night. 221 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,400 So probably not. 222 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,360 You're just conflating the two. 223 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:34,680 Listen, I'm Terry. 224 00:11:34,680 --> 00:11:36,680 I'm more of a face guy, right? 225 00:11:36,680 --> 00:11:41,280 I can remember a face, but I cannot for the life of me, you know, remember names. 226 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,600 Like if you want to put the son of San on in front of me, like just to show me his face, 227 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:49,160 like, oh yeah, son of Sam or David Berkowitz, but like names. 228 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:50,160 Okay. 229 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:54,680 I thought your name was like Andrew for the first six months of knowing you. 230 00:11:54,680 --> 00:11:55,680 That happens. 231 00:11:55,680 --> 00:11:58,640 So, so this story is everything. 232 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:03,360 Mysterious chemical reactions, strange symptoms, an ER so chaotic that you would expect like 233 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,960 George Clooney to pop up and a decades long debate over whether everything experienced 234 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,520 was due to toxicology or psychology. 235 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:12,520 Are you ready to dive in? 236 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:13,520 Born ready. 237 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:14,520 Let's do it. 238 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,360 Let's get toxic, Dave. 239 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:22,400 So on February 19th, 1994 at around 8 PM, Gloria Ramirez, the aforementioned 31 year old mother 240 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:28,360 of two and also a late stage cervical cancer, Haver was brought into the ER of Riverside 241 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:33,440 general hospital in Riverside, California, having severe heart palpitations, confusion 242 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,360 and shortness of breath. 243 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,640 Upon arriving at the ER, the staff immediately began caring for her because that's what you 244 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,240 do when you are in the ER. 245 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:48,520 They gave her sedatives like diazepam, midazolam and marazepam to try and calm her down as 246 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,700 the, as they like administered care, but her condition just continued to worsen. 247 00:12:52,700 --> 00:12:57,060 Her blood pressure was dropping and her heart rate rate was rapidly declining. 248 00:12:57,060 --> 00:13:02,960 So the doctor decided we need to defibrillate, defibrillate her. 249 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:03,960 There we go. 250 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,720 Like we both just botched. 251 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,680 Butchered that one. 252 00:13:08,680 --> 00:13:11,360 They gave her the petals. 253 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:12,360 Yeah. 254 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:17,840 And this is when the medical staff started noticing some strange observations about their 255 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:18,840 patients. 256 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,480 So first, when they opened her shirt for the defibrillator, they noticed her skin had a 257 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,520 weird oily sheen to it. 258 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:31,080 And one nurse, Susan Kane noted a garlic like odor coming from Ramirez's mouth, but that's 259 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,160 not really like that weird, like oily skin and garlic breath. 260 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,780 These are all things that can easily describe Nick on most days. 261 00:13:37,780 --> 00:13:40,880 What is weird though? 262 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:46,720 He didn't appreciate that. 263 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:53,280 No, the problem is I can't really deny it. 264 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:58,680 I like specifically puts a lot of minced garlic in my eggs in the morning and I just naturally 265 00:13:58,680 --> 00:13:59,800 have oily skin. 266 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,080 So like those, those a little blog. 267 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:06,800 So I had, it was, it was there and I couldn't, I could not not do it. 268 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:07,800 You know what I mean? 269 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:12,680 Listen, if your, if your nickname is macaroni, you gotta, you gotta look the park. 270 00:14:12,680 --> 00:14:14,080 And so, all right. 271 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:19,600 But, but what is weird though is when nurse Maureen Welch, she drew a blood sample. 272 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:24,640 She noticed that it smelled very strongly of ammonia and in the vial of blood Welch and 273 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:31,840 other noticed strange yellowish brown particles floating in it, which was quote, uh, was highly 274 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:36,440 unusual and immediately raised the alarm, which yeah, I fucking hope so. 275 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,960 She's got chunky blood. 276 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:39,960 That's not good. 277 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,240 Yeah, no, you just got congealed the blood. 278 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:44,920 It's not, well, no, there's like specs in it. 279 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:45,920 I don't know. 280 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,560 It was like brown and yellow specs, but so pretty much it's safe to say that the ER staff 281 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:54,200 was a little anxious while working on her, like not knowing what was wrong with her. 282 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:59,840 Like it's, it's not every day you get a gold glitter, blood filled garlic buttered breadstick 283 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:00,840 in the ER. 284 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:01,840 You know what I mean? 285 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,400 I mean, let me ask you this and then we'll start to interrupt you. 286 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:13,120 Was she at the infamous all you can eat pasta at Olive Garden when you're here, your family, 287 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,320 because if that, if she was there before that explains a lot. 288 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:17,320 It does. 289 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:18,320 Uh, this is 1994. 290 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:24,160 I don't know if that was a thing then it could have been Olive Garden was 291 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:25,160 a thing. 292 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:26,160 Yeah. 293 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:30,000 But anyways, this had some people on edge, uh, but they did their best to try and stabilize 294 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:34,520 her, but shit got like way weirder from here. 295 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:40,260 So not long after interacting with Ramirez Welch, the nurse who drew Ramirez blood began 296 00:15:40,260 --> 00:15:43,080 to feel dizzy and fainted within minutes. 297 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:47,660 Several other ER staff members also collapsed while all others started experiencing symptoms 298 00:15:47,660 --> 00:15:52,880 like nausea, shortness of breath, muscle spasms, and even temporary paralysis. 299 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:59,400 Dr. Julia Gorshinsky, the doctor who was like actually examining her blood, uh, began feeling 300 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:04,680 dizzy and then started suffering from muscle spasms so severe that she required physical 301 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:09,560 therapy afterwards and reported that even after that she was unable to control her limbs 302 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,680 for some time afterwards. 303 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:16,520 So now you got a woman who looks and smells and has the blood of like an overly garlic 304 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:17,760 pesto. 305 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,800 You have medical staff dropping like flies, just being around this woman. 306 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,000 It's getting pretty serious. 307 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:28,760 Uh, like the sudden wave of illnesses was so intense that the hospital declared an internal 308 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:33,960 emergency and then eventually after more staff started dropping, hospital administrators 309 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:40,060 made the decision to evacuate the ER like entirely, which is rarely happens, uh, leaving 310 00:16:40,060 --> 00:16:45,400 Ramirez alone with a skeleton crew of staff that are in full on hazmat suits to continue 311 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,560 to like try and stabilize her. 312 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:53,760 But despite their best efforts, Gloria Ramirez was pronounced dead only 45 minutes after 313 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:54,760 she arrived. 314 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:55,760 How are you feeling? 315 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,240 Whoa, we got a, we got a little bit of ways to go. 316 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,600 So if you want to talk about it, we can talk about it. 317 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:02,600 Yeah. 318 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,920 I mean like to not think about what the name of the episode is, right. 319 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:08,440 And kind of the overarching theme of the episode. 320 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:14,760 I mean, my first thought immediately goes to like, was she radioactive? 321 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:19,720 Did she, I don't know, like work around some around that? 322 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:27,240 Did she come across a ancient vial of garlic that just happened to be so filled with the 323 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,320 bad type of probiotics that just killed everyone? 324 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:31,800 I don't, I don't really know. 325 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:36,040 I know I've had garlic that's fucked me up for a couple of days, but this is just, you 326 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:40,880 know, a whole, whole another level of weird. 327 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:41,880 It's weird. 328 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:48,920 My question, and I'm sure you're going to answer this in the next couple of minutes. 329 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,040 Was there, did she just come in by herself? 330 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:53,880 Like did anyone bring her in? 331 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,240 Because I would love to know what happened to the person that she was like in the car 332 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:58,240 with. 333 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:59,240 That I don't know. 334 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:03,160 And I never saw anything saying anything other. 335 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,480 I would assume that she was probably brought in by ambulance. 336 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,680 I think that's who you got to talk to. 337 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:09,680 The EMT. 338 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,120 The EMTs, oh yeah. 339 00:18:12,120 --> 00:18:13,120 EMTs don't fuck around. 340 00:18:13,120 --> 00:18:14,120 They know what they're doing. 341 00:18:14,120 --> 00:18:15,120 Yeah. 342 00:18:15,120 --> 00:18:16,120 I don't know. 343 00:18:16,120 --> 00:18:20,600 There was never that, never that part of the story was never in anything that I read about 344 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:21,600 it. 345 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:22,600 So I don't know. 346 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:23,600 That is a good question. 347 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:24,600 Like what happened? 348 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:25,600 Like, is her kid okay? 349 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:26,600 She has a kid. 350 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,600 Like, is he fucking sick? 351 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,200 Is he just, yeah. 352 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,680 Is he just breathing garlic on people like the black plague and killing them with pesto 353 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:35,680 or? 354 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,760 I don't know. 355 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:44,520 Well maybe we'll, maybe when we finish this, maybe we'll have some more cohesive thoughts 356 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:45,520 about a theory. 357 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:46,520 All right. 358 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:47,520 Perfect. 359 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:52,200 So after her death, an autopsy was not conducted immediately as officials were concerned about 360 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:53,840 toxic exposure. 361 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:58,640 Instead, her body was placed in a sealed body bag that was in turn sealed in an aluminum 362 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,560 coffin and that was then brought to a special isolation room. 363 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,880 It's like the beginning of like a post-apocalyptic horror movie. 364 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,760 They were like not risking like anything or anyone getting infected by this thing. 365 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,920 Now the days following her death, Riverside County health officials, toxicologists and 366 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:18,480 forensic teams, they began investigating to figure out just what the fuck had happened 367 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:24,320 and like what caused the staff to suffer from these like wildly extreme symptoms. 368 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:28,120 Cause like more than 20 people, like hospital workers were affected. 369 00:19:28,120 --> 00:19:32,720 They've required hospital hospitalization and some of those had to be treated in intensive 370 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:33,720 care. 371 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,680 So like, it wasn't just like, you know, Oh, my belly hurts. 372 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:40,520 Like people got fucked up because this lady came into the ER, but right. 373 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:46,160 Given the unusual symptoms, investigators had some early theories cooking up. 374 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:47,960 One chemical contamination. 375 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:52,480 An early theory was that she had been exposed to some sort of toxic or possibly even like 376 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:57,080 you said radioactive chemical, possibly as like a result of like her cancer treatment. 377 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,440 Cause remember she was in late stages of cervical cancer. 378 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:05,560 The thing is though, is that no known chemotherapy agents would have produced the specific symptoms 379 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,000 that were shown in the staff. 380 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:13,200 Investigators also look into like the possibility of like the hospital, like the contaminants 381 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,000 in the hospital, but didn't find anything unusual. 382 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,280 Cause you hear that shit all the time. 383 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:21,600 People go into the hospital for like a fucking bruised foot and they come, then they have 384 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:22,600 AIDS. 385 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:23,600 Like, you know what I mean? 386 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,120 Like that shit is, it happens. 387 00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:28,160 It's not unusual, but they didn't find anything like that. 388 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,440 The second theory was drug interaction or toxin. 389 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,880 The forensic experts on the case examined her blood for traces of like recreational 390 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:39,080 drugs or poisonous substances, but those results were inconclusive. 391 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:43,480 There was also some speculation that Ramirez could have ingested an unusual home remedy 392 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:48,120 of some sort or like some sort of like medication that caused a reaction, but there was no direct 393 00:20:48,120 --> 00:20:50,120 evidence of that. 394 00:20:50,120 --> 00:20:51,420 Like that was found. 395 00:20:51,420 --> 00:20:54,040 The third theory is the DMSO theory. 396 00:20:54,040 --> 00:21:00,920 So a month after the incident, the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory presented a 397 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:01,920 theory. 398 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,280 And this one is pretty much what like is widely accepted due to it being the most plausible. 399 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,360 But I mean, who are you going to believe? 400 00:21:07,360 --> 00:21:09,040 Fucking bunch of nerds in lab coats? 401 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,040 Yes. 402 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:11,040 Okay. 403 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,160 For the most part. 404 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:21,320 Now anyways, their theory is that she may have used something called dimethyl sulfoxide 405 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,120 or DMSO. 406 00:21:23,120 --> 00:21:28,000 It's an industrial solvent that was sometimes used as a home remedy for pain relief. 407 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,640 Now this is like way back in the day. 408 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,960 I guess this stuff used to be touted as like a cure all until like the sixties. 409 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,440 Like a bunch of studies came out saying it was bad for you, but like people would use 410 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,520 all time, like professional athletes would use it to like help with muscle pains. 411 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,080 I guess you just kind of like rub that in like lotion. 412 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,520 Was this the stuff that turned people blue? 413 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:45,520 No. 414 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:46,520 Okay. 415 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:47,520 No. 416 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:48,520 Damn. 417 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:49,520 But you know, I get it. 418 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,520 Like when you're in the late stages of cancer, you'll try anything to kind of like feel 419 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:53,520 better I'm sure. 420 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:54,520 Right. 421 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:55,520 Right. 422 00:21:55,520 --> 00:22:02,240 The thing is that DMSO when exposed to oxygen, it can convert to dimethyl sulfon or DMSO2, 423 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:10,720 which is harmless, but under certain conditions, DMSO2 can further convert into dimethyl sulfate 424 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:15,640 or DMSO4, which is a toxic gas that can cause symptoms similar to those that the staff was 425 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:16,640 experiencing. 426 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,600 So like dyspnea, spombating, muscle spasm. 427 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:27,040 So what they're basically saying is that due to Ramirez's alleged DMSO use and an ER being 428 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:31,960 a place that's pretty rich in oxygen, there's oxygen in every fucker, where a chemical reaction 429 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,280 occurred that produced the toxic fumes. 430 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:35,280 Solid theory. 431 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:42,320 The thing is it's still controversial because the exact conditions required to produce DMSO4 432 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:47,360 from DMSO are like wildly specific and they're super rare. 433 00:22:47,360 --> 00:22:53,840 Like it has to be like a one in a 10 billion chance that this would happen from her being 434 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,120 in the emergency room. 435 00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:56,120 Right. 436 00:22:56,120 --> 00:22:57,120 Right. 437 00:22:57,120 --> 00:22:58,120 So those are some of the theories. 438 00:22:58,120 --> 00:23:02,800 Now they finally got around to doing an autopsy, three of them to be exact, including one like 439 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:08,440 right before, right before, one like right before she was buried. 440 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:13,800 But these autopsies revealed like nothing in terms of conclusive toxicology. 441 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:18,000 Her tissue showed signs of her cancer and traces of her cancer meds and the meds they 442 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,200 gave her in the ER, but no signs of any toxic agents. 443 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:26,300 Her organs were normal and there weren't any signs of any chemical reaction that could 444 00:23:26,300 --> 00:23:28,600 directly explain what had happened to the staff. 445 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:33,080 And it's because of this lack of evidence, this opened up the door to the theory that 446 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:37,760 made me want to do this episode, the mass hysteria, mass psychogenic illness and shared 447 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:38,760 delusion theory. 448 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,920 Before we get into it, you good? 449 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:43,920 Yeah. 450 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:44,920 Yeah. 451 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:54,200 I mean, like there's something to be said about how the body reacts to different chemical 452 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,360 agents to begin with. 453 00:23:55,360 --> 00:23:56,360 Right. 454 00:23:56,360 --> 00:23:59,160 Like, let's look at like, you know, the vaccine, right? 455 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:04,240 Like I got vaccine, like got my vaccinations for a COVID no problem. 456 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,960 You know, just as healthy as I was before that. 457 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:07,960 Right. 458 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:13,280 And then I had like very close family members who took the vaccine were normally healthy 459 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:20,480 and then started to like within a year started developing like very off the wall symptoms. 460 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:21,480 Right. 461 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:27,040 Things that like, and this is obviously not even just a conspiracy, it's just what happened 462 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,520 like within the same timeframe. 463 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:29,520 Okay. 464 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,800 Alex Jones, they're turning the frogs game. 465 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,560 But no, but like, you know, your body, every everyone's bodies reacts. 466 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:37,560 Yeah. 467 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,200 And it's different differently to different things. 468 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:45,280 So yeah, you know, it's plausible that Gloria was definitely using, was it DSMO? 469 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:46,280 Am I saying that right? 470 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:47,280 DMSO. 471 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:48,280 DMSO. 472 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:49,280 Right. 473 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:54,100 And then she had the one in a million chance of it becoming DSMO02, you know, that could 474 00:24:54,100 --> 00:24:56,960 have kind of act with her chemotherapy. 475 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:03,320 I'm assuming we have, there might be some further evidence on the line, but I'm definitely 476 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:08,520 not ruling out mass hysteria by any chance, you know, any stretch of the imagination. 477 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:14,960 So with like no clear chemical, viral or bacteria culprit to speak of, some medical experts 478 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,960 started fucking around with the possibility of like the mass psychogenic illness, AKA 479 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,960 mass hysteria, AKA falle-e-pres-eux. 480 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:26,200 This can occur when a group of people in a high stress environment experience similar 481 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:32,400 symptoms due to psychological triggers rather than anything actually like physical. 482 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:37,520 So I think it's safe to say, and I think you would agree with me that ER staff are often, 483 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,720 if not consistently, under what some would call intense stress. 484 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,160 I think that's like a fair assumption. 485 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:44,360 I would agree with that. 486 00:25:44,360 --> 00:25:45,360 Yeah. 487 00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:51,440 So with the combination of like the unusual smell, weird blood, a severely ill patient, 488 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:56,560 garlic, and the confusion of just like what exactly the fuck is going on, this could have 489 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,760 set off a chain reaction of like psychosomatic symptoms. 490 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:05,080 Others of this theory argue that the staff members shared, like their shared expectations 491 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,680 of like illness, fear, and stress led to their symptoms. 492 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,760 Critics, because there's always going to be critics, pointed out that some staff members 493 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:16,880 like experienced severe physical symptoms, like long-term muscle spasms, which I mean, 494 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:22,080 to their credit, it's hard to like put those solely on like psychological shit. 495 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,080 You know what I mean? 496 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,360 But I mean, who knows? 497 00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:30,680 Like the Gloria Ramirez case became like a national story covered extensively by the 498 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:31,680 media. 499 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:36,400 The public was fucking like enthralled by the concept of a quote unquote toxic lady. 500 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:41,160 And her case like even helped raise concerns about the like the potential dangers of chemical 501 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,240 exposure in medical settings. 502 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,240 Over time though, interest in the case faded as they always do. 503 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,360 And official records, like I mentioned before, now lean towards the DMSO theory as the most 504 00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:51,940 likely explanation. 505 00:26:51,940 --> 00:26:54,360 But there's still like some uncertainty. 506 00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:56,560 The same can be said for like the delusion stuff. 507 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:01,640 Dr. Julian Gierczynski, the one who was most like severely affected by the like out of 508 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,000 the ER staff, the one who had to go to like physical therapy and her legs were all fucked 509 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,000 up. 510 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,940 Like she disputes even like the notion of mass hysteria theory, stating that her symptoms 511 00:27:10,940 --> 00:27:14,160 were too severe to have been psychologically induced. 512 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,960 Her case in particular, as well as others, do kind of cast doubt on it being completely 513 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:19,960 psychological. 514 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,880 But I mean, the mind's weird, the body's weird, who the fuck knows. 515 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,000 But whether it was a result of some unknown obscure chemical reaction or some sort of 516 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:33,800 mass psychogenic response, the Gloria Ramirez case will remain and forever will be one of 517 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,840 the most unsettling medical mysteries of the past like 20 years. 518 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,000 So there you have it, Nick. 519 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:46,440 That is the story of Gloria Ramirez, aka the Toxic Lady, and a few examples of, you know, 520 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,080 shared delusions. 521 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,080 Is it one? 522 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,080 I don't know. 523 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,840 But it was, you know, it's like the Mad Gastronomatoon. 524 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,600 People say that was mass hysteria. 525 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:55,600 Was it? 526 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:56,600 Who the fuck knows? 527 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:57,600 I don't know. 528 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:58,600 What do you know? 529 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,680 All I know is I don't know what the fuck happened to Gloria Ramirez. 530 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,000 I can tell you that much. 531 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:09,440 I mean, listen, I think that, you know, people, I put this without sounding conspiracy-esque. 532 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,760 Sounds conspiracy-esque away. 533 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:13,760 That's the show. 534 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,160 I think this is valid. 535 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,160 Really quick. 536 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,240 I love what you guys have been doing with your conspiracy episodes. 537 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,240 It's great. 538 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,720 So much fun. 539 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:27,840 I think that a lot of people downplay how much control the mind has over the body. 540 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,080 And obviously it's like, oh, I'm going to go get a glass of water. 541 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,320 You get up and you get yourself a glass of water. 542 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,480 Your mind is doing shit behind the scenes that can fuck your world up and you have no 543 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:36,480 idea. 544 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:37,480 Well, that's it. 545 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,920 I mean, listen, if you're told for, you know, a couple of months, oh, if it walks like a 546 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:42,920 duck, it's a duck. 547 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:43,920 But in reality, it's chicken. 548 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,640 You're going to think that it's a duck because you were raised thinking that it was a duck. 549 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,120 And you were taught one thing when reality, it's another, right? 550 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,720 I mean, look at what's her name, what's her name, what's her name? 551 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:54,720 Gypsy Rose. 552 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:55,720 Yeah. 553 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:56,720 Right. 554 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:01,160 I mean, she was told her entire life that she was sick and she wasn't a little mentally 555 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,240 off kilp. 556 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:09,140 So you start seeing people that you work with, other health professionals, you know, start 557 00:29:09,140 --> 00:29:11,320 dropping like flies. 558 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,340 And you know, that sniffle that you could have had this morning when you walked in because 559 00:29:14,340 --> 00:29:19,120 you were an idiot and walked outside in 65 degree weather with a t-shirt on, you know, 560 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:24,200 could now very clear, very quickly turn into, oh, my left arm is feels like I have 10,000 561 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,520 needles in it and now I can't move my limbs. 562 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,160 Yeah, it's right. 563 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:29,160 It's amazing. 564 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,680 Like I said, like, because that's the thing, like you seeing other people, like it's like 565 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:33,680 that. 566 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:34,680 It is that psychosomatic thing. 567 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,560 Like they're you're in a weird scenario. 568 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,400 You're in a high stress environment. 569 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:44,440 All of a sudden, fucking a piece of five cheese Texas toast rolls in, smell like garlic glistening 570 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:45,440 from the oils. 571 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:50,120 And all of a sudden, listen, we got a couple of breadsticks in here. 572 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:51,800 We got to get them on the table. 573 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:52,800 Stat. 574 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:58,640 You mean the table, olive garden, because when you hear your family, but this episode 575 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,600 is definitely not sponsored by olive garden. 576 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,480 I mean, if they're open to the idea, I'm more than willing. 577 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,480 But you know, all of a sudden like this, you're already under stress because who knows, maybe 578 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:13,960 like in the five hours leading up to this, you've had like five people, five gunshot 579 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,360 patients fucking, you know, I mean, like, right. 580 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,840 You're just going and going, going. 581 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,840 Then all of a sudden fucking boom. 582 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,320 Alfredo's on the fucking gurney. 583 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,280 And then one of the doctors like, oh, I don't feel well. 584 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:29,360 You're like, fuck, it has to be because of this fucking garlic glitter lady. 585 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,600 And then you pesto, pesto, Pally. 586 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:32,600 Yeah. 587 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:33,600 Pesto bitch. 588 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,600 And this is so parmella. 589 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:36,600 Yeah. 590 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:37,600 Pamela. 591 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:38,600 Yeah. 592 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:39,600 Also RIP Gloria. 593 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:40,600 I'm so sorry. 594 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:41,600 We're being so disrespectful. 595 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:47,560 But anyways, so one doctor was like, oh, it starts like fucking kibbing out and you're 596 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,440 like, fuck, dude, this lady's toxic as shit has to be. 597 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,960 Then you start feeling that way because you fucking you sat on your wallet too long and 598 00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:01,480 now your legs numb and you associate that with fucking, I don't know, lady over there. 599 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:02,480 Yeah. 600 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,480 With pesto, Polly. 601 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:04,480 Yeah. 602 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:05,480 Yeah. 603 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:06,480 100%. 604 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,480 I mean, my, I guess my question, right. 605 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,720 I'm not going to have my brain is. 606 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:11,720 No, I know. 607 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:12,720 I know. 608 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:17,120 Do you think that when they were rolling her in the, the what's it called? 609 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:22,480 The orderly or the nurse home or opera, you know, candy shoppers, you know, right. 610 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:28,520 Whoever the guy that's pushing was in his head humming Gloria by Van Morrison. 611 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:34,280 And then immediately like as I was like last breath of feeling semi-nomos like Gloria and 612 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,360 then puked pesto from the night before on her. 613 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:37,360 We can only hope. 614 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,240 We can only hope that is what happened. 615 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,240 Case solved. 616 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,440 Case solved. 617 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:48,360 It's just, you know, a satanic recording of Van Morrison's Gloria. 618 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:49,360 Yeah. 619 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:50,360 Infected the entire hospital. 620 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,500 I mean, listen, I think there's something to be said about mass hysteria. 621 00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:57,080 You see it a lot in alien UFO sightings, encrypted sightings. 622 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,080 Yeah. 623 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:02,680 It's always the number one, like everyone's just seeing shit. 624 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:03,680 Y'all are fucking crazy. 625 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:10,720 When reality like Kevin got, you know, anally probed by Clackstar from like your Ronimo nine. 626 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,520 And he's just now dealing with the repercussions. 627 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:21,440 I think mass hysteria is a very interesting theory for not only this case, just every, 628 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,080 I'll say high strange in this case. 629 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,960 It's a weird theory for this one because like there was physical symptoms they saw, you 630 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:29,960 know what I mean? 631 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,240 Like whether or not they got sick from it. 632 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,240 Like this one makes more sense. 633 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,440 Like there's like cases of mass hysteria and like shared like the fucking like the dancing 634 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,680 plague, you know what I mean? 635 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,760 Like the laughing plague in Africa, like shit like that. 636 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,880 Like that's to me, mass hysteria. 637 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,160 This is like something had to have happened. 638 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,160 This is the first time I'm not going to go mass hysteria. 639 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,160 Like something happened. 640 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,160 So it's right. 641 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:58,400 And it's funny because as you know, I buy and sell watches, right? 642 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,340 I'm starting to like repair them and all that stuff. 643 00:33:00,340 --> 00:33:05,200 And I actually just watched a documentary called, it was called the Radium Girls. 644 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,200 Yeah. 645 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,160 Because they used to lick their tongue, lick the paintbrushes. 646 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,160 Yeah. 647 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,160 Right. 648 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,360 So like what they would use to make the watches like illuminate at night when it got dark 649 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,560 out is they use uranium or some shit. 650 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:17,560 Yeah. 651 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:18,560 This is radioactive material. 652 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,600 And they would lick the, you know, the tips to try and get that finer point. 653 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:22,600 Yeah. 654 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,360 And the first couple of times, the first couple of girls that were getting sick, a lot of 655 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:30,360 the managers and like, you know, the owners of the watchmaking house is like, you guys 656 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:31,360 are out of your fucking mind. 657 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:32,640 Like there's nothing wrong here. 658 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,360 And then it turned out that they were all being, you know, legitimately being poisoned 659 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:37,360 by radiation. 660 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:44,480 It's poison, which is why they no longer use, you know, or no longer use. 661 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,960 You can see that he does an air quotes. 662 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,200 So that kind of makes me a little fucking, I don't wear watches. 663 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,200 I don't care. 664 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:53,920 I'll have my wrists later on in life. 665 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,120 They're not going to fucking do it out. 666 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,120 Exactly. 667 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,120 No, they don't use that. 668 00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,320 They don't use that compound anymore. 669 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,960 They're still using certain aspects of a very, very low radiation. 670 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,960 It's the same type of radiation that you'd getting from your cell phone. 671 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:10,160 And a lot of companies have switched to bioluminescence as opposed to radioactive compounds. 672 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,160 Yeah. 673 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,680 So that's, that's my thing of like, okay, well you think about this case, it's very 674 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:15,680 real. 675 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,960 That turned out that people thought was a massacere case turned out to being something 676 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,240 that was genuinely happening. 677 00:34:21,240 --> 00:34:25,840 You know, it's not out of the realm of possibility that something was, there was something wrong 678 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:26,840 with Gloria Ramirez. 679 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,280 And it's not because the Van Morrison song was written about her. 680 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:34,240 It's cause Olive Gordon tried a new pesto and turns out someone spilled chemical X into 681 00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:35,240 it. 682 00:34:35,240 --> 00:34:37,240 I mean, and she didn't become the power of girls. 683 00:34:37,240 --> 00:34:40,240 She was done. 684 00:34:40,240 --> 00:34:44,520 No, that's fair. 685 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:45,520 I mean, yeah. 686 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,600 I mean, well, me and you will definitely not get to the bottom of this, but I'm just going 687 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:54,320 to say that I don't buy, this is the one time we're going to, where, I mean, I don't believe 688 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,640 in mass hysteria anyways. 689 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,760 But this is the one time like this is not math, like as much as I want it to be, cause 690 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:00,760 it'd be cool. 691 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,320 It'd be funny that something happens. 692 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,800 Like there's something going on here that is medically, but also they waited way too 693 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,040 long to do an autopsy. 694 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,560 They did three of them after, you know what I mean? 695 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:15,100 Like they should have done it as soon as she croaked, just the old, you know, the old knife 696 00:35:15,100 --> 00:35:17,080 out and just fucking, yeah. 697 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,680 Like field dressing a deer. 698 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:20,680 Yeah. 699 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,800 Like you got to, at that point, like I just kind of have to throw. 700 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,960 They gave her the full like werewolf treatment. 701 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:33,580 Like they're like, put her in a sealed bag, put that inside of a sealed metal coffin, 702 00:35:33,580 --> 00:35:36,960 put that inside of a room that no one can get into. 703 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,960 Like that's hilarious. 704 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:45,200 I mean, my question is, is she encased in concrete in her final resting place? 705 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,440 I think most people are, aren't they? 706 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:48,440 I don't, I don't know. 707 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:49,440 I'm not a grave digger. 708 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,040 I don't know how graves work. 709 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:56,560 I'm pretty sure they just dig a hole and they put you in a box and they spit on you and 710 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:57,920 they throw the dirt back in. 711 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:58,920 All right. 712 00:35:58,920 --> 00:35:59,920 Well, there you go. 713 00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:00,920 There you go. 714 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:01,920 Everyone. 715 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,360 That's a, that's the story of Gloria Ramirez. 716 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:06,960 It was pretty interesting. 717 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,560 I just, you know, running out of cryptids. 718 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:14,600 So yeah, there's a, there's a finite number of them. 719 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:15,600 Yeah. 720 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,840 So it's, it's almost coming up two years now. 721 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:18,840 That's wild. 722 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:19,840 Yeah. 723 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:20,840 I remember when you started the show. 724 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,520 I sort of why it sucked back then. 725 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,600 Still sucks now, but it was like a little bit better. 726 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:27,600 Sounds better. 727 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,240 The quality has gotten better audio wise. 728 00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:33,040 It's still the same terrible jokes that are recycled. 729 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,640 It's great. 730 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:35,640 I love it. 731 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:36,640 All right. 732 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,240 Before we side off is as much as thank you for, for coming on. 733 00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:41,960 Is there anything you want to plug? 734 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:42,960 You got your show. 735 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,960 You got some other stuff going on, I'm sure. 736 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,320 So the floor is yours. 737 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,320 Take it away. 738 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,840 Well, thank you very much for having me on the show. 739 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,320 Dave, your episode is actually going to be on this week of our podcast. 740 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,040 Oh, look into the ghost where we talk about a cryptid. 741 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,480 It's not even a cryptid. 742 00:36:58,480 --> 00:36:59,480 It's not a cryptid. 743 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,000 It's a, it's a folklore piece of folklore. 744 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,280 And I'm very excited to, to get on the air. 745 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:06,280 That's coming out on Tuesday. 746 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:07,280 This was too aggressive for that episode. 747 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,280 I was, I was on one. 748 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:09,280 I was, I guess I was on one. 749 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,280 I was on one. 750 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:11,280 I was on one. 751 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,000 I was, I was, I get mad real easy. 752 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:19,320 And you'll, you'll find out why, why, why Dave was so mad on this episode. 753 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,320 Yeah. 754 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,480 Go follow us on Instagram at Oh, look into the ghost or on Tik TOK at look into the ghost. 755 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,400 And Dave, thanks again for having me on the show. 756 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:26,400 Yeah. 757 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,240 And I'll be sure to, you know, tag, go look into the ghost in this post. 758 00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:31,600 It'll be collaborative face Instagram posts. 759 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,400 So you'll be able to see it. 760 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:34,880 And vice versa, buddy. 761 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,560 Let's see. 762 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,200 If you want to follow us on Instagram, it's at cryptic cocktail, follow us on Tik TOK 763 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,520 at cryptic cocktail party. 764 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:45,280 I think, Oh, please leave a rating and review. 765 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,680 It would be amazing if you could do that. 766 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:53,240 You know, even if you give it, if you're going to leave a bad review, at least give us five 767 00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:54,240 stars, five stars. 768 00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:58,000 But you know, like just write something, just tell me how much I suck. 769 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:02,440 Cause I hate getting one star reviews and then no, no, no comment. 770 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:08,120 Like if you're going to like at least read us five stars, but then just fucking unhinged 771 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,560 like just go fucking full off. 772 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,560 Even if you like the show, I think it'd be really funny to have a bunch of five star 773 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:17,160 reviews and then just fucking like just, just trash. 774 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,160 Yeah. 775 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,160 Seething reviews. 776 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:23,400 And to the person that, you know, I don't know, was it last week that you guys went 777 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:24,400 from five to a 4.9? 778 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,400 Five to 4.9 on, on, on, on Spotify. 779 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,400 Cause I don't know how you can't see like the individual ones. 780 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:31,400 So I don't know. 781 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,080 You can't write reviews on Spotify. 782 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,880 So the guy that whoever left you anything, but a five on Spotify, I'll find you. 783 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:37,880 Yeah. 784 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:38,880 And I'll take a good dose. 785 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,200 To be fair, it happened when I was gone and Sarge was doing the episodes. 786 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,320 So I already told him, I blame him for those. 787 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:45,320 So that's on him. 788 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,320 He can get that back. 789 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,320 I'm doing just fine. 790 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:52,760 I'm going out of my cage. 791 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:53,760 Yeah. 792 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:54,760 All right. 793 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,000 So with that, thank you everyone so much for listening and Nick, would you like to say 794 00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,480 goodbye and I love you. 795 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:00,780 Oh, real quick. 796 00:39:00,780 --> 00:39:02,520 Thank you to scared all the time podcast. 797 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,280 They gave us a little shout out on their new episode. 798 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,200 That means a lot coming from someone who's on the astonishing legends network. 799 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,960 So thank you so much. 800 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:12,960 That's a pretty cool. 801 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:13,960 Yeah. 802 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,440 Apparently I sent them an email. 803 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,120 I don't remember ever sending them an email. 804 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:21,040 I don't remember what it was said or even if it was me who did it, don't know. 805 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,400 Couldn't tell you, but Hey, you know, there's, there's a great thing called. 806 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,880 I looked in my send box and it wasn't there. 807 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,480 So I didn't do it anyways. 808 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:30,480 Thanks guys. 809 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:31,480 Appreciate it. 810 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,200 So go listen to astonishing, not astonishing legends, go to scared all the time podcast. 811 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:39,080 They're celebrating their one year anniversary right now with a series of episodes. 812 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,720 Like it's like five episodes in a row. 813 00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:43,720 Wow. 814 00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:44,720 Yeah. 815 00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:45,720 It's banana. 816 00:39:45,720 --> 00:39:46,880 I couldn't even imagine doing that. 817 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,120 So good on them. 818 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,120 They're hard workers. 819 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,120 The show's great. 820 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,960 If you like this stuff, you'll probably like that as well. 821 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:53,960 All right. 822 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:58,000 So with that out of the way, Nick, would you like to say goodbye and I love you to the 823 00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,000 audience. 824 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,000 Goodbye. 825 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,000 I love you. 826 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,000 Don't forget. 827 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,280 I was trying to think of the ending of the Truman show, but I couldn't think of it off 828 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,280 the top of my head. 829 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:07,280 So have a good one. 830 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:08,280 It's a good morning. 831 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:16,200 And if I don't see you, good afternoon, good evening and good night. 832 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:17,200 There we go. 833 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:42,420 All right