1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:26,760 Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of Cryptic Cocktail Party Show. 2 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,720 We have a few drinks, share a few laughs, take a dive into the unknown. 3 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,120 I'm your host Dave, joined as always by Sarge. 4 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:33,120 How's it going buddy? 5 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:34,120 Hello. 6 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:35,120 Thank God you're back. 7 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:36,680 Felt good to say those words again. 8 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,360 Yeah, welcome back. 9 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,600 That was like building up inside of me like a fucking lactose shit. 10 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,240 That's out. 11 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:46,240 Feeling good bud. 12 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:51,360 Thank you so much Sarge and Cam and Amanda for holding it down while I was gone. 13 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:52,720 I really appreciate it. 14 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,960 Hopefully the listeners all enjoyed it. 15 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:59,040 I didn't listen to any of those episodes mostly because I started this show just to hear myself 16 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,840 talk and I wasn't on any of those episodes. 17 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:03,840 Fair enough. 18 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:04,840 That's okay. 19 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:05,840 I didn't listen either. 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,400 Hopefully they worked out. 21 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:08,400 I'm sure they did. 22 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,120 I mean I had to listen to one because I had to edit it, but you know, it was fine. 23 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:13,120 It was good. 24 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,360 What's going on bud? 25 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:20,840 I'm glad you're back because I couldn't figure out how to change a studio name. 26 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:25,120 Like I would change the name and then Riverside was like, no, I'm just going to keep the one 27 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:26,120 that you had before. 28 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,520 Because you got to start a new studio. 29 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,640 I don't have to start a new studio every time we record. 30 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,280 I just do it because I need to come up with funny names. 31 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,800 Although this one, it's not the name I chose, but it works I guess. 32 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:45,120 Because I like to give you little breadcrumbs for what the episode might be about. 33 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:49,760 And then the other issue I had is that the first time I didn't realize that I had to 34 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:55,440 share the theme music in the episode. 35 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,880 I was just hitting preview and I was supposed to hit the other one. 36 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:04,040 So I'm like dancing away and Kim's just staring at me and I'm like, all right, you don't want 37 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,040 to dance. 38 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:06,040 That's fine. 39 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:12,400 And then I heard the episode and I was like, oh, I didn't play the music for anyone but 40 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:13,400 me. 41 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:14,400 So that's why. 42 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,080 See, I have a soundboard on my mixer, so I use it. 43 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,360 I don't use anything through Riverside except for just like us to talk. 44 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:20,360 Oh, gotcha. 45 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:25,840 This is a little inside baseball for people listening to podcasts. 46 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,360 No, but thank you so much for doing it. 47 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:29,360 I appreciate it. 48 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:30,360 I know it's a lot. 49 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:31,920 It sucks, especially editing. 50 00:02:31,920 --> 00:02:32,920 Oh, it's not bad. 51 00:02:32,920 --> 00:02:33,920 It's not bad. 52 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:38,560 I just it happened to be a very busy couple of weeks because my boss is out of town. 53 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,120 So I was covering for him. 54 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:41,960 But I still did the research. 55 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:46,600 And what's really hard is finding out what you haven't done because I was literally Googling 56 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:51,000 a cryptid cocktail party and then, you know, whatever thing I had found. 57 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,000 And I'm like, God damn it. 58 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,360 He did that one, too. 59 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:54,360 Yeah. 60 00:02:54,360 --> 00:03:01,440 No, we've all mean it's been almost two years and 80 plus episodes at this point. 61 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:02,720 Like we've covered a lot. 62 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:03,720 We need to branch out. 63 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:04,720 That's why. 64 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,000 That's why we're going to branch out into other weirdness. 65 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,000 Yeah. 66 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:13,000 Well, that's why this episode is coming out on Halloween. 67 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,160 And I'm so excited for. 68 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:15,800 So I figured we'd do us do something. 69 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,280 We're going to switch genres. 70 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:18,280 OK. 71 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:19,280 And we're going to get real serious. 72 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:20,280 All right. 73 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:21,280 OK. 74 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,480 We're going to change the name of the show for just for this episode midway through. 75 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:30,000 Yeah, like it's going to be during this episode of the cocktail party that we're going to 76 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,000 be a completely different podcast. 77 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,000 And I'm going to try to do this in my best voice for the genre of we're going to do. 78 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,880 So now we're so we're no longer a cryptic cocktail party. 79 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:44,400 We are Shadows of Hayden Field, a true crime podcast. 80 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,000 Excellent. 81 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:53,440 Are you ready for this? 82 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:54,440 I'm ready. 83 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:55,440 All right. 84 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:56,440 So we've got to get serious now. 85 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:57,440 All right. 86 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:04,440 Oh, God, you nailed the genre. 87 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:30,720 It's exactly what the music sounds like. 88 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,200 Good evening and welcome to Shadows of Hayden Field. 89 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,960 Tonight we dig into one of the darkest stories to come out of small town America, a Halloween 90 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,480 horror that left a quiet community reeling. 91 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:46,320 Tonight's story is a chilling reminder that sometimes the scariest things are closer than 92 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,000 we realize. 93 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,400 It's a tale of an unidentified figure, a masked killer who terrorized Hayden Field, Illinois 94 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:58,880 on Halloween night in 1978, turning a beloved holiday into a bloodbath. 95 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,360 Hayden Field is the kind of place where people know their neighbors and leave their doors 96 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:03,360 unlocked. 97 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,960 It's the last place you'd expect a horror like this to unfold. 98 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:12,240 But on Halloween night, as families were celebrating, something sinister was lurking in the shadows. 99 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,560 It started with sightings. 100 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,840 Kids and teenagers mentioned seeing a strange figure in a pale, featureless mask wandering 101 00:05:18,840 --> 00:05:19,840 through the neighborhood. 102 00:05:19,840 --> 00:05:24,460 But in the excitement of Halloween, most people assumed it was just a prank. 103 00:05:24,460 --> 00:05:26,720 At first, the night passed like any other. 104 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:32,220 Kids trick or treated, parents handed out candy, and teenagers attended Halloween parties. 105 00:05:32,220 --> 00:05:38,160 No one suspected that soon, their quiet streets would become the scene of an unimaginable 106 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:39,900 nightmare. 107 00:05:39,900 --> 00:05:43,120 The first sign that something was wrong came around 8 p.m. 108 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:48,240 Annie Brackett, a local high school senior, was babysitting for a family on Lampkin Lane. 109 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,580 Annie had stepped out of her car to run an errand when suddenly, she was attacked. 110 00:05:52,580 --> 00:05:57,040 She was found hours later, her throat slit, slumped in the front seat. 111 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,800 Her car parked right on the street had become the scene of her murder. 112 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,040 A horrific display for the police who arrived at the scene. 113 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:11,560 The steam rising off of her corpse was her hopes and dreams escaping into the sky. 114 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,520 The potential that she lost. 115 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,480 Sorry, I just I wanted to also get overly dramatic and poetic if I could. 116 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:18,480 Oh, you're good. 117 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:19,480 Yeah, yeah. 118 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:20,480 Thank you. 119 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:21,480 This wasn't a robbery. 120 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,040 And that's also my true crime podcast voice. 121 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:25,040 It's pretty good. 122 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:26,040 It's a gravelly whisper. 123 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,040 It has to be a gravelly whisper. 124 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,560 Yeah, I'll stop interrupting you now. 125 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:31,760 Go ahead. 126 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,360 This wasn't a robbery or random act of violence. 127 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,720 There was something deliberate out there. 128 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,120 Police described the killer's precision as unnervingly efficient. 129 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,280 It was as though he'd planned this down to the last detail. 130 00:06:43,280 --> 00:06:45,720 But why Annie and why this night? 131 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,040 The attack left police with more questions than answers. 132 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:53,880 And this eerie silence that followed Annie's murder was shattered again just minutes later. 133 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,520 Not far from where Annie's body was discovered, another young couple was spending Halloween 134 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:58,760 together. 135 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:03,840 Linda VanderBloch and her boyfriend, Bob, were at home, unaware of the horror unfolding 136 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:05,080 nearby. 137 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,480 Sometime that evening, the door was forced open and they were attacked. 138 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:13,240 Bob was found pinned to the wall with a knife, his body left in a grotesque display. 139 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:14,760 Linda was strangled shortly after. 140 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:20,800 Her last moments filled with terror as she faced the mass figure who entered her home. 141 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,600 I'm sorry. 142 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:23,960 I'm sorry. 143 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:30,040 All I could think of all I could think of was the movie Commando with Arnold Schwarzenegger, 144 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:35,360 where he stabs a guy with like a pipe and he gets stuck to a wall and he's like, stick 145 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:36,360 around. 146 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:42,920 The minute he said that, I was like, sorry, stick around. 147 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:43,920 In my head over and over again. 148 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,120 This is a serious true crime podcast now. 149 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,040 OK, no, no, no, no, I totally understand. 150 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:52,200 I totally normally I'm very, I'm very respectful of victims. 151 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:53,880 But I mean, he's stuck to a wall. 152 00:07:53,880 --> 00:08:00,000 That's I mean, I mean, we're now he got the he got the moth in a museum display treatment, 153 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,000 you know. 154 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:06,360 Even as a kid, I saw that I'm like, what's wrong with you people? 155 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:07,360 Why would you do that? 156 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,580 I got to put a pin through an insect. 157 00:08:09,580 --> 00:08:10,840 Was it dead when you did it? 158 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:16,480 Yeah, I got a I got a winged lizard that's like that, like pinned up. 159 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:17,520 I think it was already dead. 160 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,880 I fucking hope so, because that'd be I hope so. 161 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:20,880 I hope so. 162 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,360 That's kind of a fucked up way to do business. 163 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:23,360 All right. 164 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,120 So back to the shadows of Haydenfield. 165 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:26,120 Yes, I'm sorry. 166 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:27,120 I'm sorry. 167 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,440 Stick around. 168 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,680 The police couldn't believe what was happening. 169 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,480 Three brutal murders in a single night, each one disturbingly calculated. 170 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,880 Whoever this killer was, he was moving through the town with terrifying efficiency and the 171 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,480 randomness of the attacks made it impossible to predict his next move. 172 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,160 It seemed he had no pattern, no motive. 173 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:52,240 As news of the murder spread, a new figure entered the scene, Dr. Samuel Loomis, a psychiatrist 174 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:53,600 from a nearby town. 175 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,600 He arrived at the Haydenfield police station visibly shaken, warning the officers that 176 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,800 they needed to prepare for more violence. 177 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,320 Dr. Loomis had an unusual request. 178 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:06,800 He wanted to access to every patrol unit in town, convinced he knew the man behind these 179 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:07,800 murders. 180 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,520 Loomis explained that he spent years studying someone he described as quote unquote pure 181 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:12,760 evil. 182 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,860 The officers were skeptical. 183 00:09:14,860 --> 00:09:17,880 What could a psychiatrist know about a violent killer on the loose? 184 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,060 But Loomis was insistent, almost desperate. 185 00:09:21,060 --> 00:09:24,880 He spoke of a patient he treated, a person whose darkness he believed could not be controlled 186 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,020 or cured. 187 00:09:26,020 --> 00:09:30,320 He was certain this patient had returned to Haddonfield, although he wouldn't reveal the 188 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,200 patient's identity. 189 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,360 Now by this point, the town was in a panic. 190 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:38,840 The police doubled their patrols, urging residents to lock their doors and stay inside. 191 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,320 But it was already too late. 192 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,200 The killer was still out there and he wasn't finished. 193 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,400 It's an interesting strategy by the doctor. 194 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:50,200 I know who's doing this, but I'm not going to tell you until someone else does. 195 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,000 And then when I'm ready, you can know. 196 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:57,800 Yeah, it's that sounds like, well, you got to think patient privilege, you know, you 197 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:58,960 can't just reveal that information. 198 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:00,280 There's laws and stuff. 199 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:01,640 Well, there are some limits. 200 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:06,440 Like, if you know someone is killing a bunch of people, then you have to tell. 201 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,600 I mean, you don't have to do anything. 202 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,320 Unless you're in Illinois, apparently. 203 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:11,320 That's OK. 204 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:12,320 Yeah. 205 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,800 As the night wore on, the killer's movement seemed to follow an invisible path, drawing 206 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:22,880 him straight toward one final target, Laurie Stroud, a quiet high school senior, was babysitting 207 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,160 on the edge of town that night. 208 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,880 She noticed an eerie figure following her earlier in the day, but had shrugged it off 209 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:30,680 as a Halloween prank. 210 00:10:30,680 --> 00:10:34,920 Little did she know that the same figure would return silently entering the house as she 211 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,920 was tending to the children in her care. 212 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,760 Laurie's survival instincts kicked in the moment she realized she wasn't alone. 213 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,920 She barricaded herself, shielding the children as the intruder tried to break through. 214 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:50,520 A brutal fight had ensued, with Laurie using anything she could find, knives, furniture, 215 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:51,880 to fight him off. 216 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,780 But the attacker seemed inhuman, unfazed by pain or injury. 217 00:10:55,780 --> 00:10:57,700 It was though nothing could stop him. 218 00:10:57,700 --> 00:11:00,000 At last, Dr. Loomis arrived. 219 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:04,800 Drawn by the sense of urgency, he confronted the killer, firing multiple shots. 220 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:09,400 Laurie watched, shaken and terrified as the intruder finally fell, seemingly defeated. 221 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:13,560 But when Loomis and Laurie went to check on this body, it was gone. 222 00:11:13,560 --> 00:11:16,640 The masked man had vanished without a trace. 223 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,480 As police combed the scene and tried to understand the violence that had unfolded, Dr. Loomis 224 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,000 finally revealed the truth about the killer's identity. 225 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,920 The man in the mask was someone Haddonfield had long forgotten, a former resident who 226 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,680 had been removed from the town years ago after a violent crime. 227 00:11:30,680 --> 00:11:35,120 Dr. Loomis explained that his patient had been institutionalized as a child for a murder 228 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:36,640 that shocked the community. 229 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:41,520 He'd been just six years old when he committed his first killing against his own sister. 230 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:53,040 The killer was Michael Myers, a name Haddonfield hadn't heard in years. 231 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,560 People remembered the tragedy vaguely, the little boy who killed his sister on Halloween 232 00:11:56,560 --> 00:11:57,560 night. 233 00:11:57,560 --> 00:12:01,520 The house where it had happened still stood, abandoned and falling into disrepair, becoming 234 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,800 a place where kids dared each other to enter. 235 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:08,280 But no one imagined that the same boy, now grown, would return. 236 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,520 Loomis had always believed Michael Myers was something beyond ordinary. 237 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,680 He described him as an embodiment of darkness, a patient who never spoke a word during his 238 00:12:15,680 --> 00:12:19,080 fifteen years at Smith's Grove Sanitarium. 239 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:23,000 And though Michael had vanished that night, Loomis warned the people of Haddonfield to 240 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:27,560 remain vigilant, convinced that Michael would one day return. 241 00:12:27,560 --> 00:12:48,640 The morning after Halloween, the morning after Halloween Haddonfield was left reeling. 242 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,520 Five people had been murdered in a single night, and the killer was still out there. 243 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:56,400 The police launched an investigation searching over every corner of town, but Michael Myers 244 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,280 was gone without a trace. 245 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:02,560 Some speculated he had left Haddonfield for good, while others believed he was hiding, 246 00:13:02,560 --> 00:13:04,660 waiting for the right moment to strike. 247 00:13:04,660 --> 00:13:08,680 In the years that followed, Dr. Loomis continued his search for Michael Myers, convinced that 248 00:13:08,680 --> 00:13:11,640 he was still alive and as dangerous as ever. 249 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,640 His obsession with finding Michael Myers grew, and he warned that if Michael returned, the 250 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,280 town would be unprepared for the horror that would follow. 251 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:22,240 To this day, Haddonfield residents remember the Halloween night that transformed their 252 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,880 town into a place of terror. 253 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:30,600 Many lock their doors, some avoid Halloween altogether, while others pass down the legend 254 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,360 of Michael Myers as a warning. 255 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,520 Thank you for joining us on Shadows of Haddonfield. 256 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,440 Next episode we'll explore Dr. Loomis' theory in more detail and delve into Michael 257 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:44,440 Myers' past, searching for clues that might explain his descent into violence. 258 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:51,640 Until then, stay safe and keep your doors locked, because sometimes the past has a way 259 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:55,080 of creeping back into the present. 260 00:13:55,080 --> 00:14:14,600 So, what did you think of Shadows of Haddonfield? 261 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,680 Honestly as soon as you said Haddonfield, Illinois, I was like, oh, he's doing Halloween. 262 00:14:18,680 --> 00:14:24,200 I was wondering if you were going to pick up on it almost immediately. 263 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,840 Well when you said Shadows of Haddonfield, I was like, why does Haddonfield sound so 264 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:28,840 familiar? 265 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,120 Yeah, no, it's like an obscure name. 266 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,920 Like it's not what Halloween is known for. 267 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,880 But I did know that it took place in Illinois. 268 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:37,880 Yeah, I was. 269 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:46,280 And so as soon as you said Haddonfield, Illinois, I was like, oh, god damn it. 270 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:53,000 I had the idea that I thought it'd be funny to take a horror movie and like attempt to 271 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:57,720 write a true crime podcast as if it was like a real crime. 272 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:58,720 So I think you nailed it. 273 00:14:58,720 --> 00:14:59,720 So that's what I did. 274 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:00,720 I think you nailed it. 275 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:01,720 I was worried. 276 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,340 I didn't want to reveal Michael's name too soon, but I was very worried that Loomis would 277 00:15:05,340 --> 00:15:07,560 give it away almost immediately. 278 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,280 And if not, then as soon as you got to Laurie, like that's how you knew. 279 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:14,160 Yeah, once you said Laurie Stroud, like that's a dead giveaway. 280 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:15,320 I thought it was still really good. 281 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:20,080 I didn't want to interrupt and I didn't want to say I didn't want to say anything, but 282 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:25,480 I immediately what jumped into my mind was like Rob Zombie. 283 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:26,480 Yeah. 284 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:27,480 John Carpenter. 285 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:28,480 Yeah. 286 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:29,480 Mechanic suit. 287 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,160 Mike William Shatner's face. 288 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:32,160 Michael McDowell. 289 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:36,440 Oh, is that his name? 290 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:37,440 Andrew McDowell. 291 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:38,440 Oh, Andrew. 292 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:39,440 Who's Michael McDowell? 293 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:40,440 Did I make that name up? 294 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:45,200 Well, no, I might be saying his name around Malcolm McDowell. 295 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:46,200 Yeah. 296 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:47,200 Clock of Orange. 297 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,520 How could we forget that? 298 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:50,520 That's right. 299 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:51,520 Gosh darn it. 300 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:52,520 But yeah, we had the last name, right? 301 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:53,520 I don't know why I said Andy. 302 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:54,720 Yeah, that's way off. 303 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,120 I knew it was like an alliteration. 304 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,240 I knew it was Eminem. 305 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,680 But anyway, he nailed it. 306 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,800 Everything he does touches fear in my heart. 307 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:03,960 Oh yeah, he's great. 308 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,320 So yeah, what did you think? 309 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:07,320 Did it get you at all? 310 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,300 Were you at any point tricked by it? 311 00:16:11,300 --> 00:16:14,880 In the very, very beginning I was, but the minute you said Haddonfield, Illinois, I was 312 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:15,880 like, wait a minute. 313 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:16,880 See, that's why I was worried. 314 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:21,920 I said before the episode, I was like, I think you're too smart to for me to trick you because 315 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,440 I haven't tricked you once. 316 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,080 If you did an episode where you were talking about, you're going to do an episode and it's 317 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:29,720 going to be like the most obvious thing. 318 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,600 And I'm going to be like, whoa, really? 319 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,960 Yeah, I know. 320 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,040 It's like the really easy ones that trip me up. 321 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,920 I know I got to get better at this. 322 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,840 But now, but now I have a new idea for a podcast, which is a true crime podcast, but it's just 323 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:42,840 horror movies. 324 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,800 But you have to make it really like dramatic. 325 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:47,920 That's extremely important. 326 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,240 It's going to be hugely over dramatic. 327 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:55,400 Like imagine doing a true crime podcast and covering like oceans 11. 328 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,200 Oh, fuck. 329 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:58,200 That'd be really good. 330 00:16:58,200 --> 00:16:59,200 Right? 331 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:00,200 Yeah. 332 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:01,200 Yeah. 333 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:02,200 So that's it. 334 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:03,200 This is our little Halloween special. 335 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:04,200 It's not very long. 336 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,920 I just, I had the idea and I wanted to get it done and I haven't recorded with you in 337 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,720 a long time or at all in like half a month. 338 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,080 So like I needed to get it out. 339 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:12,080 But that was fine. 340 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:18,760 I also absolutely love that it's a Halloween special and you covered Halloween. 341 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:19,760 Just brilliant. 342 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:20,760 I had to. 343 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:21,760 What else would I have done? 344 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:27,080 Because then you could do a Christmas special about the one of the many horrible Christmas 345 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:28,520 horror movies that are out there. 346 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,680 Like Santa's sleigh with Goldberg. 347 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:31,680 Yeah. 348 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,160 Or like Silent Night, Deadly Night. 349 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:35,640 Ooh, gremlins. 350 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,640 That one's gremlins. 351 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:42,320 Gremlins is Christmas, right? 352 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:43,320 Yeah. 353 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,680 Gremlins is Christmas or Die Hard. 354 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,280 That's not a horror movie though. 355 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:49,640 But I could, I could, but I do. 356 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:50,640 That is Christmas movie. 357 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:51,640 I'll give you that. 358 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,600 There's a lot of contention whether or not gremlins or Die Hard or Christmas movies, 359 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,040 I'm going to go with they are. 360 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,800 If it takes place during Christmas, it's a Christmas movie. 361 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:00,960 Yeah. 362 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:01,960 Like Home Alone. 363 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,580 Home Alone to me isn't a Christmas movie, but it's a Christmas movie. 364 00:18:05,580 --> 00:18:06,580 It is a Christmas movie. 365 00:18:06,580 --> 00:18:07,580 Yeah. 366 00:18:07,580 --> 00:18:08,580 I missed you. 367 00:18:08,580 --> 00:18:10,280 I missed you too, buddy. 368 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:11,280 All right. 369 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:12,280 So that is our Halloween special. 370 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,880 I don't know if you got anything going, you got any, you want to plug anything? 371 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:15,880 I don't know if you have anything going on. 372 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,880 I haven't talked to you in forever. 373 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:18,880 Really? 374 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:28,440 No, I, I did do a video about some voter intimidation and mail fraud being done by the MAGA folks 375 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,920 and a little follow up to that, which I'm very excited about. 376 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:35,280 I'm going to do another video about it tomorrow is the ACLU actually called my friend back 377 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:36,840 and asked her for more details. 378 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:37,840 Oh really? 379 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:38,840 Yeah. 380 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,600 So it sounds like they're going to be interested in, in whatever this is. 381 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,440 And then there are two different news stations. 382 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,000 Was it like a return address? 383 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,280 Like is there any, no, of course not. 384 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:47,280 They're cowards. 385 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,840 So they didn't put that on there because they didn't want to actually to get back to them. 386 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:51,840 Yeah. 387 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:56,880 Um, but they're, I mean, it's still easy to catch them because if they were sending out 388 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:01,840 like bulk mailers, like there's gotta be some kind of account attached to it. 389 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:02,880 Yeah. 390 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,400 But also like people are morons. 391 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,880 I'm sure they brag about it online. 392 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:12,720 So eventually they'll get caught and then they'll have to, you know, it's, it's, it's 393 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,640 the typical way of MAGA make assholes get attorneys. 394 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:16,640 I saw that. 395 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,080 I was like, what the, that's so fucking wild. 396 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,120 Like that is such a ballsy move. 397 00:19:22,120 --> 00:19:25,840 But anyways, so you had, so the ACLU is calling your friend back and you said two separate 398 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,240 news stations are what? 399 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,460 Two separate news stations interviewed her. 400 00:19:29,460 --> 00:19:33,080 One has already posted a news story and the other one should probably post it with the 401 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,080 next couple of days. 402 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,080 Nice. 403 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:36,080 Hell yeah. 404 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,080 Yeah. 405 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,080 Yeah. 406 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:39,080 Make those dudes fucking eat rocks. 407 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:40,080 Yeah. 408 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,080 Punch them in the face. 409 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:42,080 I can't wait. 410 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,320 I can't wait for the election to be over, to be honest with you. 411 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,080 I'm so sick of it anyway. 412 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:47,080 Yeah. 413 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:48,080 All right. 414 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:52,680 Um, I love you out there and thank you for listening. 415 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:53,680 Yeah. 416 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:54,680 Also leave us a radio. 417 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,040 May the Mothman bless and keep you. 418 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:58,040 Yeah. 419 00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:59,040 We're not there yet. 420 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:00,040 We're not there yet. 421 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,040 Sarge. 422 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:02,040 All right. 423 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,040 So we gotta do the other plugs first. 424 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,360 I'm not on the news and all that shit. 425 00:20:05,360 --> 00:20:06,360 I wasn't on the news. 426 00:20:06,360 --> 00:20:07,360 I had nothing to do with that. 427 00:20:07,360 --> 00:20:08,360 You kind of whatever. 428 00:20:08,360 --> 00:20:14,520 Uh, if you want to follow Sarge and all of the social media is just look up stars, a 429 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,080 destroyer on all. 430 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:20,440 Or you can hit the link in our Instagram and you can find all of them there, which is at 431 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,120 Cryptic Cocktail on Instagram, Cryptic Cocktail party on Tik Tok. 432 00:20:24,120 --> 00:20:26,720 Leave us a rating review, please. 433 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,600 Uh, we've got another one star review. 434 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:29,600 I think, I don't know. 435 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:30,600 I don't know how to tell on Spotify. 436 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:31,600 We were at five. 437 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:32,600 Now we're at 4.9. 438 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,400 That means a five, a one point, but you know, whatever. 439 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:37,400 Just make it better. 440 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:38,400 Make it five again. 441 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:39,400 Yeah. 442 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:40,400 Stop. 443 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:41,400 Stop giving us bad reviews. 444 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:42,400 You're fucked. 445 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:43,400 Yeah. 446 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:44,400 I'm going to blame Sarge because I was gone for two weeks. 447 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:45,400 Yeah. 448 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:46,400 It's probably my fault. 449 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:47,400 I wouldn't doubt it. 450 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:48,400 Somebody was like, God damn it. 451 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:49,800 Don't ever do this to me again. 452 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:50,800 Yeah. 453 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:51,800 Um, yeah. 454 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:56,080 Well, that Sarge, now do you want to say I love you to the audience? 455 00:20:56,080 --> 00:21:00,600 May may, uh, the blessings of, of Mothman keep you. 456 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:01,600 Yeah. 457 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:02,600 Thanks. 458 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:03,600 I love you. 459 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:31,600 May Mothman be with you.