1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:24,640 I always do a little dance. 2 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,180 I'm always excited. 3 00:00:26,180 --> 00:00:28,500 I've woken up with it stuck in my head before. 4 00:00:28,500 --> 00:00:29,500 It's a catchy tune. 5 00:00:29,500 --> 00:00:31,080 I want to write lyrics for it, actually. 6 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:32,080 All right. 7 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,120 Well, welcome back to Cryptid Cocktail Party. 8 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:38,640 This is a show where we have a few drinks, share a few laughs and take a dive into the 9 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:39,640 unknown. 10 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,960 I am not your host, Dave, once again. 11 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,880 He has been commissioned by the nation of Canada to investigate why all of their bacon 12 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,440 is just thin round slices of ham. 13 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:50,440 Godspeed, Dave. 14 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:56,480 My name is Saj and diving down the rabbit hole with me today. 15 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,720 Holy shit, two guests. 16 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,760 We've got Cam from Narragansett. 17 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,560 Also, hi, Cam's mom. 18 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,560 Thanks for listening. 19 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,040 And then there is Amanda from Fanghorn Forest. 20 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,000 Folks, how are we doing? 21 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,080 Not too bad. 22 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,800 Not too bad. 23 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:14,800 Not too bad. 24 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,080 Not too bad. 25 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,080 Feeling good. 26 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:18,320 Hanging out with the treebeards. 27 00:01:18,320 --> 00:01:25,640 I competed in a Bloody Mary competition today, so I got a fourth place. 28 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,040 And I'm not a bartender, so I'll freaking take it. 29 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,040 Honestly, we. 30 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:31,040 Oh, go ahead. 31 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:32,040 Is that fourth place? 32 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,320 And as in you, you drink fourth place amount of Bloody Marys? 33 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:40,680 If it was a drinking competition, it would be a whole different thing. 34 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,720 I'd need a handicap and all these things. 35 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:47,960 But no, it was I was making the cocktails competing against other bartenders. 36 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,640 And there's like a crowd vote and a judge vote and all that stuff. 37 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,000 So I made an only bill. 38 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:59,040 New York system wiener Bloody Mary. 39 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:05,080 It's a Rhode Island hot dog ish thing, but they're called wieners. 40 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,000 It's the best drunk food in the entire world. 41 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:11,500 After you go to a concert and you're really fucked up, you go get wieners because they're 42 00:02:11,500 --> 00:02:14,400 open till three a.m. and maybe fight somebody in the parking lot. 43 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:15,400 You know, what are you doing? 44 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,400 Wieners, hot wieners, hot wieners, baby. 45 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:22,760 Always looking for a hot wiener after a concert. 46 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:23,760 Every single time. 47 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:28,160 That is one of my favorite things about New England. 48 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:33,320 One of the reasons I was so disappointed when the Patuket Red Sox moved to Worcester, besides 49 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:39,360 the fact that Worcester is a toilet, is that it's not it's not like it's like an actual 50 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:40,360 toilet. 51 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,400 It's like a it's like a chemical toilet because it smells different. 52 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,280 It's a metaphor. 53 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:52,360 But when you would go down to see the Patuket Red Sox right outside the stadium is a place 54 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,960 advertising hot wieners. 55 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:02,280 And at one one season, the team like had a couple of like fun exhibition style games 56 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,840 where they change their names to the Patuket Hot Wieners. 57 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,840 And I have two hats. 58 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,960 Yes, I had to. 59 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:12,960 I had to. 60 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:13,960 Incredible. 61 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,480 It's a little wiener dog in a bun and it's on fire. 62 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:17,480 How could you not buy that? 63 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,520 I am deeply jealous. 64 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:25,160 When you wear the hat, do people understand what it means or do they think you're just 65 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,800 like wiener guy? 66 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,600 It depends on where they're from, honestly. 67 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:29,920 I hope they don't understand. 68 00:03:29,920 --> 00:03:32,560 I want them to not understand. 69 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,560 I don't want anyone to know. 70 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:36,960 All right. 71 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:42,880 So this is going to be this is a spooky episode, you guys, which is appropriate as Halloween 72 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:44,200 is upon us. 73 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,320 Some might even say inside us. 74 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,600 Have you ever heard? 75 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:56,040 Have you ever heard of the Fresno Nightcrawler? 76 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:57,040 Not sure. 77 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:58,040 Haven't. 78 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:59,040 OK. 79 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:00,040 All right. 80 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:04,280 So I'm going to start at the beginning, as you do, with a story in the early morning 81 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:10,960 hours of November 5th, 2007, a man who wished to only be identified as Jose was woken up 82 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,720 by the barking of his dog. 83 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,960 Sensing the urgency of his dog's behavior, Jose decided to check the surveillance camera. 84 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:22,220 See, Jose had previously installed these surveillance cameras because he had been a victim of theft 85 00:04:22,220 --> 00:04:24,640 in the past. 86 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,120 So he went to go see if the thieves were back. 87 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,880 However, he would not find thieves on the footage this time. 88 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:34,560 What he saw instead would briefly take the world by storm. 89 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:39,400 So because this is a podcast, I can't show the video to everyone, but I'm going to share 90 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,600 a little bit of the video with you guys just so you can kind of get an idea of what we're 91 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:48,360 talking about here, because this is wildly absurd. 92 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,360 And did you just say where this took place already? 93 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:52,360 Because I wasn't listening. 94 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:53,360 Yeah, Fresno, California. 95 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:57,160 I think I said, I think I said, no, actually, maybe I didn't. 96 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:58,560 I think you did. 97 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:04,320 Now, it is the Fresno Nightcrawler, but I was wondering if it was like the Appalachian, 98 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:05,320 you know, that's fair. 99 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:06,320 I was thinking that. 100 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:07,320 No, it's Fresno. 101 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:08,320 OK. 102 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:09,320 OK. 103 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:10,320 Give me just a second. 104 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,240 I want to bring up the window. 105 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,800 Sorry for everyone else, but hopefully you'll be able to hear the laughter. 106 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:16,800 OK. 107 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:21,520 Keep an eye on it. 108 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,120 Do you see what I'm looking at? 109 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,320 What the actual fuck? 110 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:31,880 OK, so this is just. 111 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:32,880 This is just. 112 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,280 Somebody can overstarch their khakis. 113 00:05:36,280 --> 00:05:37,280 Yeah. 114 00:05:37,280 --> 00:05:38,400 All right. 115 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,240 So what you saw was just part of the clip. 116 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:48,200 I'm going to describe the clip for everyone because it is just a whole man. 117 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:49,200 All right. 118 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,960 So the grainy footage looks pretty normal at first glance. 119 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,360 I don't know if you guys can see it. 120 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:57,680 This particular footage was really blown up so you could see it. 121 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:02,760 But the footage initially starts out with just a normal scene at the bottom of the frame 122 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:07,560 as a time stamp indicating 1241 in 32 seconds. 123 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,400 The view appears to be someone's front lawn. 124 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:14,240 There's a tree in the upper left hand corner of the frame and what appears to be a walkway 125 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,860 running diagonally from the bottom right to the center of the frame. 126 00:06:17,860 --> 00:06:23,400 And then the walkway appears to connect to the street, which runs in front of the lawn 127 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,880 behind the tree near the left corner of the screen. 128 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,440 What we see is what initially looks to be a white pole. 129 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,920 However, a few seconds into the video, the pole appears to start moving. 130 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:40,600 In the limits of early 2000s cameras, it's hard to make sense of what you're seeing. 131 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,480 As the long thin creature moves from the top left to the bottom right of the frame, you 132 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,760 can kind of make out short, almost wobbly steps. 133 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,200 The long shadow in the ground follows the creature's movements, indicating the creature 134 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,880 is not simply a camera artifact. 135 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,280 Some distortion in the shadow is visible as a creature gets closer to the camera. 136 00:06:57,280 --> 00:07:00,880 At one point, it almost looks like the creature is hovering above the ground. 137 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:02,400 This could be due to grainy footage. 138 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:07,760 The second creature, I'm sorry, the first creature is completely out of view by 1242 139 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,080 and 51 seconds. 140 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,680 Shortly after the first creature moves out of frame, a second creature comes into view. 141 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,880 This is the one that everyone was just laughing at. 142 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:25,080 It pops up at 1246, 4141 seconds following the same trajectory as the first creature. 143 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:26,620 This one is slightly different though. 144 00:07:26,620 --> 00:07:30,400 Instead of maintaining the short steps and almost wobbly gait, the second creature is 145 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,800 taller, faster, and more graceful. 146 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,200 The strides are slightly longer. 147 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:40,720 In its form, more closely resembles just a pair of legs with a head. 148 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,880 Each leg surrounded by what appears to be flowing white fabric. 149 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,640 Finally, at the end of the footage, the second creature appears to have a large head with 150 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,240 dark eyes, not too different from your traditional alien gray. 151 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,800 Stranger still, the creature does not appear to have arms. 152 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,520 This creature exits the frame at 1247 in four seconds. 153 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,240 I did not see a head. 154 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:01,800 I did not see a head. 155 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:06,400 That footage that you saw just there was really bad. 156 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:11,080 They had blown it up for some reason, probably to fit the frame or something. 157 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:15,920 I've watched a couple of different iterations of this footage because I just could not believe 158 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,120 it the first time I saw it. 159 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:20,120 There is another one. 160 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,280 I am going to see if I can find it. 161 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:28,800 Sorry again for everyone who is on the visual medium here, I mean on the audio medium, but 162 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,440 I promise you it's just a hell of a video. 163 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,240 It was your imagination. 164 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:35,240 Yeah, exactly. 165 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:36,240 Let's see. 166 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:37,240 Fresno Nightcrawler. 167 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:38,240 I know. 168 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:42,520 Tell them what it has been. 169 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:43,760 So I'm going to get to that. 170 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:44,760 Oh, sorry. 171 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,080 No, no, that's okay. 172 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:47,680 It's a really good question to ask. 173 00:08:47,680 --> 00:08:48,680 I'm telling you. 174 00:08:48,680 --> 00:08:53,560 It's a really good question to ask. 175 00:08:53,560 --> 00:08:59,220 But there's an answer to that question that's actually really simple. 176 00:08:59,220 --> 00:09:01,940 But at first, it looks pretty tall. 177 00:09:01,940 --> 00:09:05,000 You guys can tell from the tree in the video, it looks kind of tall. 178 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:09,000 So this guy here, I'm going to share this video just a second. 179 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,600 I'm just waiting for the commercial to get out of the way. 180 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,920 This guy here actually did an analysis of the video. 181 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:19,040 So I'm going to pause it and share again. 182 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,320 So this is less? 183 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,240 This is actually an enhanced video. 184 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,000 Oh, this is boring. 185 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,000 Yeah. 186 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,520 So it's actually not too bad. 187 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:29,520 It's not as awful. 188 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,560 I like how he uses commas instead of periods like a really cool guy. 189 00:09:33,560 --> 00:09:34,560 Yeah. 190 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:35,560 Oh, yeah. 191 00:09:35,560 --> 00:09:38,320 And maybe we trust the validity of what I'm seeing. 192 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,920 That's how I felt about it when I first watched it. 193 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:45,360 And this I like the title card also lasts for five minutes. 194 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:46,360 That's how you know it's good. 195 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,440 I took it all to a read. 196 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:53,160 So again, this one looks really shitty, but then he has an enhanced version where he like, 197 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,000 hold on, let me see if I can bring that up. 198 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,000 There we go. 199 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,880 Freaking goofy boss effect. 200 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,480 And it actually does kind of change things. 201 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,480 So there's the tree right here in the top left hand side. 202 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:06,480 OK. 203 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,920 And that is infinitely more spooky. 204 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,160 Yeah, it's just like white snow. 205 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:12,760 Here comes the silly goose. 206 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,720 There goes a lot. 207 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,880 Oh, see, now you can kind of see the head. 208 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:19,880 No, I can't. 209 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:20,880 What do you mean? 210 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:21,880 Now you can see the head. 211 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,880 I mean, if his legs go all the way up to his head, right? 212 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,320 That's why I watch this video. 213 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:36,840 It does remind me of that joke like her legs go all the way up all the way up. 214 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,840 Hold on, let me see. 215 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:45,120 Those legs go all the way up. 216 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,120 Why? 217 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:47,120 Why? 218 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:48,120 Yes, they do. 219 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,480 Is that literally what you mean that those fans go up to a head? 220 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,600 Is that no, you'll see in a second. 221 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,840 Let me see if I can find the. 222 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:03,760 The worst part was the whole footage was only available on Facebook and I just can't. 223 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,520 I love that you were like in this video, you'll see the head and relate. 224 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:08,640 Yeah, I saw. 225 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:13,640 I saw it, but that's because I know it's there like you guys don't know it's there. 226 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,360 I was distracted by how graceful it was. 227 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,040 It was weirdly graceful, right? 228 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,240 I know it's upsetting. 229 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,160 I don't think I'll ever be that graceful. 230 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,760 Considering it's just legs, it does really well. 231 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:33,560 Well, that's what I'm working on. 232 00:11:33,560 --> 00:11:39,640 Who broken arms will do that? 233 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,920 Oh, I'm turning off that audio. 234 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:46,560 OK, oh no, this is the. 235 00:11:46,560 --> 00:11:47,560 This is another one. 236 00:11:47,560 --> 00:11:48,560 This isn't going to help us. 237 00:11:48,560 --> 00:11:51,440 I feel like at this point we should just take your word for it. 238 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:52,440 It's a head. 239 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:53,560 Trust me, you guys got to look it up. 240 00:11:53,560 --> 00:11:58,000 If I find the clip, I'll I'll send it to everyone. 241 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,600 Every listener, just drop your email in the comments. 242 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:10,160 So as if, let's say now put yourself in poor Jose's shoes. 243 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,640 You're sitting in your house. 244 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:18,280 It's twelve, you know, fifty, maybe one a.m. 245 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:22,200 You're bleary and tired because your dogs woke you up because you thought there was 246 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:28,600 an intruder and instead a pair of what looks to be white linen pants has escaped a casino 247 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,080 in Cuba and is now walking across your front lawn. 248 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:35,480 I mean, what would you do? 249 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,800 Obviously you're scared and confused, right? 250 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,600 And Jose searching for answers did the only thing he could. 251 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:47,500 He contacted the Fresno Univision channel and gave them the footage. 252 00:12:47,500 --> 00:12:52,420 And this is where we meet a man with quite possibly the best fucking paranormal investigator 253 00:12:52,420 --> 00:12:54,280 name in history. 254 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,560 His name is Victor Camacho. 255 00:12:57,560 --> 00:12:59,840 Oh, that's nice. 256 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:00,840 Right. 257 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,760 That's real nice. 258 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,600 It feels good. 259 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:11,920 So Camacho was the host of a radio program called and I'm going to fuck this up. 260 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,920 Los Desfilados. 261 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:20,600 OK, you did a great job, which Google translated to the sleepless ones, which is an equally 262 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,280 badass name. 263 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,280 That is so. 264 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:29,600 According to Camacho, Univision reached out to him for his opinion on the video as a paranormal 265 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,640 researcher. 266 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,840 Camacho viewed the footage but refused to take a stance on whether it was authentic 267 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,000 or not based on the video alone. 268 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:43,560 So Univision called Jose, who I can't stress enough how how much this guy didn't want to 269 00:13:43,560 --> 00:13:44,900 be involved. 270 00:13:44,900 --> 00:13:46,840 And he had just he needed answers. 271 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:51,200 The only reason he did this is he was terrified. 272 00:13:51,200 --> 00:14:00,440 And so Jose finally agreed to come to the station and meet with Victor and Victor Camacho 273 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:06,600 was later quoted in a 2024 Fresno Bee article on the Nightcrawler. 274 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,980 He said this about Jose. 275 00:14:08,980 --> 00:14:10,600 He didn't even want to go out of the house. 276 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,320 He stayed home for a couple of weeks. 277 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:18,440 It wasn't possible that someone tried to make this video just to fool you or the TV station. 278 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,280 Victor and Camacho became a believer. 279 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,320 I mean, I mean, it's possible. 280 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:25,560 Let's not say it's not possible. 281 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,520 Yeah, I've never been that afraid of pants. 282 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:29,520 Right. 283 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:35,480 I mean, frequently they don't fit, but I don't like I choose not to wear them. 284 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:36,480 If I could. 285 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,840 Yeah, like socially acceptable. 286 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:39,840 Yeah. 287 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,440 Like any good New Englander, I stay in shorts until December. 288 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:48,720 It was the last opportunity to not say I need pants. 289 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,480 Oh, God damn it. 290 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:52,480 That is really good. 291 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:57,960 We might need to change the name of the episode, actually. 292 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,540 I need pants. 293 00:15:00,540 --> 00:15:09,520 So according to howstuffworks.com, Camacho met with Jose again in February of 2008, months 294 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,600 after the footage aired. 295 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:16,740 This follow up visit was also filmed and it added some valuable context to the original 296 00:15:16,740 --> 00:15:20,120 video because it was done during the daytime. 297 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,200 In the surveillance video, it's hard to determine size. 298 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,960 I mean, you ask the question, how tall is this thing? 299 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:27,960 I sure did. 300 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:28,960 And you saw. 301 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,960 You are wrong. 302 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,240 And you saw in relation to the tree, right? 303 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:36,760 So it appeared kind of tall. 304 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,160 Well, it depends on how tall the tree is. 305 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:40,160 Exactly. 306 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:45,120 So with no other information that up against the tree, you're like, OK, that could be a 307 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,120 pretty tall thing. 308 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,000 That could be like six to eight feet tall, right? 309 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,000 Possibly. 310 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,000 Sure. 311 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,000 OK. 312 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,920 So the tree itself is actually like five feet tall. 313 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,440 I nailed it. 314 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:56,520 It's a weird looking tree. 315 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,200 It's probably a little bit taller than that because it looks like Camacho is kind of a 316 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:01,360 shorter dude. 317 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:02,360 He's a short king. 318 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,760 So to him, the pants were tall. 319 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:05,760 Oh, yeah. 320 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:12,320 Well, so the pants could really only possibly be between like three or four feet tall at 321 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:13,320 the most. 322 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:14,320 OK. 323 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:15,320 So like normal pants. 324 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:16,320 Yeah. 325 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:20,000 Well, no, if your pants are four feet tall, you had to can be a tumbo. 326 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,000 Oh, yes. 327 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:22,000 Fair point. 328 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,000 I don't know how pants work. 329 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,240 I also have a question. 330 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:32,840 Why in the actual fuck is how stuff works dot com covering this? 331 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:33,840 Because no idea. 332 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,440 It's not answering the question of the website. 333 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:37,440 Yeah, clearly. 334 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,440 How do those pants work? 335 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:47,600 Clearly, they ran out of like household appliances and strange inventions to cover. 336 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,080 We've already done the refrigerator. 337 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:50,880 Do we have ghost pants by any chance? 338 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,920 Like now we're asking you, does this work? 339 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,560 Exactly. 340 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,080 So also what you see in the daytime video that you don't see at night, this is actually 341 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:06,680 a fence and where the so there's the there's the grass, as you guys saw in the video. 342 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:11,080 And then there's a little walkway at the bottom, bottom right hand side of the screen at the 343 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,320 top of the screen is the driveway. 344 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:20,480 And there's actually a gate where where the homeowner, Jose, can pull his car out. 345 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:26,600 So where the creatures come from is actually coming from the driveway and then walking 346 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,080 down to the walkway. 347 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:29,200 Just visiting. 348 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,720 Just visiting, just popping by to say hello. 349 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:32,720 Company. 350 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,120 So maybe like a large property. 351 00:17:36,120 --> 00:17:37,120 It's not. 352 00:17:37,120 --> 00:17:38,120 It's a it's a pretty small lawn. 353 00:17:38,120 --> 00:17:41,560 So when you see the video, when you see the surveillance video, it looks like it could 354 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:42,560 be a big lawn. 355 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:47,400 But when you see when you see the real life video, you realize that come out. 356 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:52,960 I mean, Jose must have had like a fisheye lens, the biggest fisheye lens he could find 357 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:58,840 because it was like it looks much bigger than it actually is in real life. 358 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:06,080 So with Jose's permission, Victor Camacho later showed the Nightcrawler video at the 359 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:10,760 2008 MUFON symposium in San Jose, California. 360 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,560 And there were immediate sides chosen. 361 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:14,720 Some people thought it was a hoax. 362 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,440 Some people thought it was very real. 363 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:23,520 The MUFON community, of course, being very skeptical people and not easily fooled by any 364 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:24,520 stretch. 365 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,040 Oh, pants are controversial. 366 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:27,040 They are. 367 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,640 But Camacho was not the only person to analyze the video. 368 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,360 This is where it gets kind of interesting. 369 00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:34,600 Enter former FBI agent. 370 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:35,600 Don't worry, guys. 371 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:36,600 FBI is on the case. 372 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:37,600 Ben Hansen. 373 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:42,880 Hansen is actually a pretty interesting character with multiple degrees and accomplishments, 374 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,020 including hosting a show called Fact or Fate. 375 00:18:46,020 --> 00:18:50,400 On the show, he leads a team of investigators to analyze the details of a story. 376 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,800 And in the case of the Fresno Nightcrawler, he even tries to recreate the footage, which 377 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,000 he did in 2010. 378 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:01,120 Ben and his team determined that he could not recreate Jose's video and therefore could 379 00:19:01,120 --> 00:19:02,120 not explain it. 380 00:19:02,120 --> 00:19:03,120 They tried puppets. 381 00:19:03,120 --> 00:19:04,120 They tried dolls. 382 00:19:04,120 --> 00:19:10,680 They even tried having children dress up as the pants like you do. 383 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,080 And it couldn't make it work. 384 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,280 They couldn't they couldn't replicate it. 385 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,040 I have a question. 386 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:18,040 Sure. 387 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:19,760 This kind of like splitting hairs. 388 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,760 Why is it called the Nightcrawler? 389 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:23,760 I don't know. 390 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:24,760 He's walking. 391 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,840 It is walking. 392 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,560 It's not even it's not even by the loosest definition of crawling. 393 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:31,560 Is it crawling? 394 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:32,560 No. 395 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,640 However, that's probably why it has another name, which I'm going to get to right now, 396 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:37,640 actually. 397 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:44,800 This would not be the last video of the Fresno Nightcrawler, aka the Fresno Alien, aka Ghost 398 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:45,800 Pants. 399 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,480 Ghost Pants is so much better. 400 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:48,480 That's that's top tier. 401 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:49,480 That's that's the best. 402 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:50,560 I'll be honest with you guys. 403 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,440 I came up with Ghost Pants, but I really want it to catch on. 404 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,920 Oh, yeah, no, it's good. 405 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,280 Ghost Pants is my favorite. 406 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,720 Also, we all need Pantsers. 407 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,640 That's that's still is called back, Amanda. 408 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:09,560 That was called back to Amanda's greatest contribution. 409 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:16,240 So on March 28th, 2011, at roughly 2am, two creatures were again captured on surveillance 410 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:21,400 footage, this time in Yosemite National Park, much like the first camera in the story, the 411 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,720 park rangers had set up the camera to catch potential criminal activity. 412 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,360 Now, this footage is a bit clearer. 413 00:20:27,360 --> 00:20:30,560 This time, the taller creature appears to be in front of the smaller one. 414 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:35,840 I can show you guys this video actually do have there. 415 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:44,120 There's a lot of footage of this because it really this is like where it really took off. 416 00:20:44,120 --> 00:20:46,680 This is when pants became serious. 417 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:52,040 So you guys are just going to have to really learn to appreciate our our commentary on 418 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:57,400 this video. 419 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,880 The interval. 420 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:07,520 This video, this video is actually pretty fascinating in just how silly it is. 421 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,200 Not because the creature is unbelievable. 422 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,120 It's just how silly the actual creature is. 423 00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:14,120 All right, get ready. 424 00:21:14,120 --> 00:21:15,120 Here we go. 425 00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:16,120 I'm going to share again. 426 00:21:16,120 --> 00:21:17,120 Ready. 427 00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:18,120 I'm ready. 428 00:21:18,120 --> 00:21:19,120 All I'm ready. 429 00:21:19,120 --> 00:21:20,120 My body is ready. 430 00:21:20,120 --> 00:21:23,120 Okay, here it is. 431 00:21:23,120 --> 00:21:30,240 Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo. 432 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,480 His head is rolling around. 433 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,520 Do you notice that? 434 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:35,520 Yep. 435 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:36,520 Yep. 436 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,640 He's clearly not as excited as he was in the previous video. 437 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:40,640 He's not feeling it. 438 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,720 I mean, he's just he looks sad, frankly. 439 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:49,160 This time he's it's all pants, maybe. 440 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:50,440 It's always been all pants. 441 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:51,440 His pants all the way over. 442 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,440 My favorite is the little one here, though. 443 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,360 Those are the complete. 444 00:21:57,360 --> 00:22:02,120 The first one is my favorite. 445 00:22:02,120 --> 00:22:03,680 I want that guy. 446 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,320 I want that little guy living in my yard. 447 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:08,320 Do you? 448 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:09,320 I do. 449 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,600 He's too goddamn cute. 450 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,960 Okay, so I definitely see heads this time for sure. 451 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:16,960 That's like a body. 452 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,400 I don't know if I see arms. 453 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:20,840 No arms. 454 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:21,840 There's no arms. 455 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,120 It's like pants all the way up. 456 00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:25,600 Still, the legs go all the way to the top. 457 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,440 My legs go all the way up. 458 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,280 Honestly, I don't understand what I'm looking at. 459 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:33,480 And it's in a different place. 460 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:34,640 That's the whole point. 461 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,720 It's almost like it's a different thing, though. 462 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,680 It doesn't look like a pair of pants walking. 463 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,960 It looks like a white thing just too late. 464 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,960 Something you have to consider is that the camera quality is a thousand times better. 465 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,960 It's still shit, but it's way better. 466 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:49,960 Way better. 467 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,080 That's how I live my life. 468 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,960 I don't actually have to consider anything. 469 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:54,960 Fine. 470 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:59,960 That's where my conclusion is. 471 00:22:59,960 --> 00:23:02,680 Fuck it. 472 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,880 So this footage appeared to be a bit clear. 473 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,640 This time, the taller creature appears to be in front of the smaller one, which sparked 474 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,200 speculation that the creatures were possibly parent and child. 475 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:13,800 Yeah, that's what it looks like. 476 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:18,680 Yeah, in the original article that I started researching this, they said mother and child, 477 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:19,680 but I was like, you know what? 478 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:20,680 That's sexist. 479 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,720 Maybe the dad's taken the pants out for a stroll. 480 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:23,720 We don't know. 481 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:24,720 Yeah. 482 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,560 So I said parent and child because I don't want to assume gender. 483 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:33,560 The gait of both creatures appeared slightly different with the smaller one being less 484 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:34,560 pole-like. 485 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:39,760 Is the only way I can think of it. 486 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:40,760 Kind of wobbly. 487 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:41,760 Yeah. 488 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,880 Is there a difference in angle, the better overall quality of the footage, a hoax looking 489 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:51,200 to capitalize on the first video or possibly different creatures? 490 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,880 The National Parks Department does have a pretty good sense of humor about this incident 491 00:23:54,880 --> 00:24:01,200 mentioning it in a March 20, 23 blog post on the U70 page about strange things that 492 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,200 you can see in the parks. 493 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,200 Thank God for Teddy Roosevelt. 494 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,200 Yeah, right. 495 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:10,720 You wouldn't have to imagine that they have just, and maybe this is just my wishful thinking 496 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:16,480 of a goddamn library of this shit because I would have to imagine there's stuff happening 497 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,040 all the time. 498 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,040 If you believe in cryptids. 499 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,600 There's a whole Reddit dedicated to it specifically from park rangers. 500 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:24,600 Yeah. 501 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:25,600 Which I love. 502 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:26,600 I love that. 503 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:33,120 What makes, I mean, U70, the proximity makes sense that it could be the same creature. 504 00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:34,560 Yep. 505 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:42,480 However, I don't think it's the same, even with the quality difference. 506 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,040 I don't think it's the same thing. 507 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:50,800 I mean, I am not prepared to make a judgment either way. 508 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,440 I just love it. 509 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,160 I love it so much. 510 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,080 I don't care if it's not real. 511 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,480 It will be real in my head. 512 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:58,760 Oh, it's real. 513 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:03,720 It was clearly a different creature because one of them was pleaded and one of them wasn't. 514 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,360 And you have the Capri's. 515 00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:08,320 It wasn't, and it wasn't iron. 516 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,120 No, clearly that means somebody's lazy. 517 00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:12,120 Slacking. 518 00:25:12,120 --> 00:25:13,880 They up the production value. 519 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:14,880 Okay. 520 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,440 So this isn't the only footage either. 521 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:25,520 The next footage was captured in Billings, Montana on April 25th, 2020 at 9 45 PM. 522 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,160 This is possibly the worst quality footage of the bunch. 523 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,120 I'm not even going to show it to you because it's, it's, you can't see anything. 524 00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:36,400 Filmed on what I can only assume was a zero megapixel daguerreotype. 525 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,840 What appears to be a single night crawler pops into frame in the top right side of the 526 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,200 screen and then back out. 527 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:47,840 However, it's tough to tell because the footage looked like it was filmed during, it was filmed 528 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:52,120 during a rare underwater blizzard is the only way I could describe it. 529 00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:56,440 It looks like it's somehow snowing in the ocean. 530 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,440 Filmed by a game boy. 531 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:05,800 Now, now I would be utterly failing at my job if I didn't mention some possible related 532 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:10,720 sightings on December 12th, 2014, a former Marine and his wife claimed to have seen a 533 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:11,720 similar creature. 534 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:16,160 However, there are some differences that make me think this would be a different being altogether 535 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,280 for sure. 536 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,240 According to a cryptids fandom.com, which is a great little website. 537 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,000 You guys should check it out if you get a chance. 538 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,500 Also I found the cryptid wiki page, which is really good. 539 00:26:28,500 --> 00:26:30,960 They had some good information on it. 540 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:37,680 Anyway, according to cryptids fandom.com, this creature was a seven foot tall, slim, 541 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,840 great creature with muscular legs. 542 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,400 Don't know why that's relevant. 543 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,640 That walked like its knees were backwards. 544 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,200 Damn, sounds sexy. 545 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,200 Right? 546 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:47,920 Let me get over there. 547 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,480 Some sexy ass legs moonwalking. 548 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:58,240 Is this a cryptid or a daddy? 549 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,480 Given the previous adorable sightings, this thing sounds like it can fuck right the fuck 550 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:03,480 off. 551 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,200 I hate it and I want to kill it with fire. 552 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,080 Muscular backwards bending legs you say you sir are horrific abomination. 553 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:13,760 Yeah, I mean, how did you know that they're backwards bending? 554 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,000 Well, you just know. 555 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:21,000 So like when you see you just know a person walking like this. 556 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,640 And then you've got another one that's like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 557 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,400 That was really helpful for everybody listening. 558 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:36,520 By the way, it just made me think of it like a horse's legs, like a horse's back legs. 559 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:46,000 What you just showed us is where you go like, yeah, now you get it. 560 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:52,800 So the second creature had a horse's back legs in the sense that it bent backwards, 561 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,160 not like our knees, which bend the correct way. 562 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,160 That's deeply upsetting. 563 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,840 I mean, all I saw was like a couple of sad marshmallows wandering. 564 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,640 Yeah, but they were adorable marshmallows. 565 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,840 This thing, the picture that they have, which again, I'm not going to show you was fucking 566 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:08,840 nightmare fuel. 567 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,480 It had also had no arms. 568 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,480 Oh, this is from the one we didn't see. 569 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,600 Yeah, this is the Billings Montana one. 570 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,840 I'm sorry, not Billings Montana. 571 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,320 This is no, it is Billings Montana. 572 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,920 Is it no Carmel Carmel, Ohio. 573 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,640 So this is called that's because they pronounce it wrong. 574 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,000 It's caramel. 575 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,480 This is the Carmel creature. 576 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,440 So it's muscular backwards bending legs. 577 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,500 They said this a number of times in the article. 578 00:28:38,500 --> 00:28:41,660 So I'm guessing this guy really wants everyone to know this. 579 00:28:41,660 --> 00:28:46,980 He is a former Marine who is 60 years old. 580 00:28:46,980 --> 00:28:48,440 And he described the encounter. 581 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:53,320 Here's a direct quote as reported by cryptids fandom.com. 582 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:58,060 The man said we recently bought a place in Fort Hill area in Southeast Highland County. 583 00:28:58,060 --> 00:29:02,760 We first noticed after about 30 days of living here that we suddenly had a perfect circle 584 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,920 that stays fresh green, no matter what the weather in our front lawn. 585 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,160 Again, not super relevant. 586 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,380 I think he's just bragging at this point. 587 00:29:10,380 --> 00:29:16,040 On Friday night, the 12th, we were driving home after turning on Carmel Road. 588 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,240 It's not it by the way, it's not like the candy. 589 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,240 It's carmel. 590 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:27,520 After turning on Carmel Road, which leads to our road, we went around the curve by the 591 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,920 Carmel Church is everything Carmel in this town. 592 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:36,540 And then up a small incline welcome to the Carmel Post Office and the Carmel McDonald's. 593 00:29:36,540 --> 00:29:45,200 So sticky and then up a small incline and approximately 10 feet over the incline and 594 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,000 in front of our truck. 595 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,000 Just get to the point. 596 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,520 Old man, the alien ran across the road and into the woods. 597 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,040 He's also painting a picture. 598 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,840 Okay, this is a picture that he's painting. 599 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:01,480 He's using his left hand and a roller to paint a wall. 600 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:06,280 It's the video or no, there was no video for the Carmel creature. 601 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,400 So he's just saying it's an alien. 602 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:09,400 He doesn't know. 603 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,080 He's saying that he this is what he witnessed. 604 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,040 I feel like he knows what he saw. 605 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,800 Yeah, what is I'm a former Marine and we don't lie. 606 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,940 The flat circle is I don't know what the circle in his lawn has to do with anything other 607 00:30:22,940 --> 00:30:25,680 than he's just bragging about how nice his lawn is. 608 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,600 All right, maybe it was like that's what I thought too. 609 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,040 Like I was like, where does this tie in? 610 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,520 And then I got to the end of the quote and I was like, what about your lawn though? 611 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:33,520 Why are we talking about it? 612 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,040 He was saying there are circles like there are crop circles. 613 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:43,800 And so therefore my alien story checks out. 614 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:44,800 Look at the circle of my lawn. 615 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,840 See, I'm not lying about how great my lawn is. 616 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,680 That's how you know there's a real alien. 617 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:55,220 So finally, there is the Poland sighting. 618 00:30:55,220 --> 00:31:00,300 This video has it all you guys bad quality, no lighting and filmed from what I could only 619 00:31:00,300 --> 00:31:04,000 assume was the first car of a moving roller coaster. 620 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,480 This video really does appear to be a hoax. 621 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,520 The flowing movement of the first three videos is replaced with what looks like broomsticks 622 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:11,520 wrapped in white sheets. 623 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,200 And this was it after the original? 624 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,400 Oh yeah, way after. 625 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,880 This was like in 2023 or 2024, I think. 626 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:19,880 Taking it. 627 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:20,880 It's full of shit. 628 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:21,880 It's so bad. 629 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,440 And it's like the cameras all over the place. 630 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:31,120 And then you see two broomsticks like goose stepping across the screen wrapped in white 631 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:36,480 sheets and then the camera immediately jerks away to nothing. 632 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,400 And it's like, well, obviously this is a hoax because if I had this shit crawling on my 633 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:45,720 lawn, I wouldn't have the guy who had had way too much Adderall hold the camera. 634 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,120 I would like put it down and rest it somewhere. 635 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,320 Sounds like a clan meeting to me. 636 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,680 Sounds like a what? 637 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:55,680 Wipe sheets. 638 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:56,680 I get it. 639 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:57,680 Oh, oh, oh, oh, it's possible. 640 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:02,680 You said there were goose stepping in and white sheets. 641 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,480 It's actually a mix when you think about it. 642 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:05,880 Now there's Nazi Klansmen. 643 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,840 And they skipped leg day. 644 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,400 What is the world coming to? 645 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,640 Yeah, I want to see it. 646 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,880 I'll look it up later. 647 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,840 Yeah, look that up. 648 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,680 It's so bad I didn't even bother showing it to you guys because it's just horrible. 649 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,880 The guy didn't even attempt to film this. 650 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:30,360 So final note, there's a bit of a cottage industry surrounding the Fresno Fresno pants 651 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:36,360 monster patent pending the Fresno Bee shows all sorts of products from stickers to T-shirts 652 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,360 and even plushies. 653 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,800 Some of the stuff out there is actually pretty clever. 654 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:40,800 And I want it. 655 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,040 I don't even care if it turned out to be a hoax. 656 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,040 I fucking love this thing. 657 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,040 What do you guys think? 658 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,040 Sure. 659 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,960 I also want all of the merch. 660 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,680 Yeah, I need a poster or something. 661 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,680 Maybe like a sexy recreation. 662 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:53,680 Yeah. 663 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,320 Oh, rule 34 version of the pants monster. 664 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,360 I'm in. 665 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,360 You don't have to change the name. 666 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:03,360 He comes along. 667 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,880 That's what they call me in college. 668 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:08,880 Yeah. 669 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:14,320 Before I got the restraining order, I didn't go to college. 670 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:18,800 Amanda, what do you think? 671 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,720 Well, you know, I'm a true believer. 672 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:27,080 I'm a true blue believer and it does not take much to convince me because I don't care. 673 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,560 Well, that's why I invited you. 674 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:29,560 Yeah. 675 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,400 I mean, I don't care if it's a fake. 676 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,840 I have more fun believing that it's true and it doesn't matter either way. 677 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,640 So to me, 100% true. 678 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:40,640 I'm into it. 679 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:46,840 I'm going to say, I'm going to say the first two were probably true. 680 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:47,840 Definitely the first one. 681 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:55,520 There's so much like compelling evidence that if it is a fake, it was very masterfully done. 682 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,720 And I will still give you a round of applause and wear your t-shirt to the end and to the 683 00:33:58,720 --> 00:33:59,720 end of the world. 684 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:00,720 Right. 685 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:05,360 The Yosemite one, I can see how that one might be considered a bit more of a hoax. 686 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,280 There's really no shadow in the video. 687 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:13,540 In the things moving like it's like a like a Mickey Mouse cartoon for the early Mickey 688 00:34:13,540 --> 00:34:14,540 Mouse cartoons. 689 00:34:14,540 --> 00:34:16,840 It's definitely funny, but I think the racist ones. 690 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:21,400 I think, I think that's a different thing. 691 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:22,400 Yeah. 692 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,360 And then the Montana one. 693 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:30,160 I mean, what little of the creature you see, it does look like, like the creature, but 694 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,960 it's impossible to tell what it is. 695 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,720 The Poland one is 100% a lie. 696 00:34:33,720 --> 00:34:36,000 It's literally you can see the folds in the sheets. 697 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,000 Yeah. 698 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,000 Horribly done. 699 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,000 I believe it. 700 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,000 Okay. 701 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,000 Thanks. 702 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,920 So much effort just to fake something so I mean, you could fake something better than 703 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:44,920 that. 704 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:45,920 But yeah. 705 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:46,920 Yeah, you could. 706 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:47,920 You could. 707 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,920 We actually in Boy Scout Camp, that's right, folks. 708 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,060 I am a nerd. 709 00:34:52,060 --> 00:34:57,920 In Boy Scout Camp, we had to take a metalworking class and we had these like little plates that 710 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:05,280 we were going to turn into bowls and my friend and I being utterly useless and completely 711 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:11,700 disinterested in metalworking, we actually turned them into flying saucers and we glued 712 00:35:11,700 --> 00:35:18,000 them together and then we threw them up in the air over the field and we got like a perspective 713 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:24,360 shot with like just, because you know, this was back in the ice ages, so I only had like 714 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,280 a disposable camera and so I took a bunch of pictures. 715 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,200 We would throw it up in the air and then I would snap the photos and a couple of them 716 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,800 actually came out pretty good. 717 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:33,800 Yeah. 718 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:39,080 It really did look like a UFO was like over the lodge just because of the perspective. 719 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:43,320 It looked huge because the thing was way closer to us and falling towards me. 720 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:44,320 Yeah. 721 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,000 So you could definitely make awesome and fairly convincing fakes. 722 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,000 Yeah. 723 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,720 You know that you change somebody's life because they were developing those photos and they're 724 00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:53,720 like, Jesus Christ, right? 725 00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:57,200 I'm not allowed to say that I looked at them or talk about them. 726 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,200 My god, this guy's done something. 727 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:04,240 But I don't know if I turned into Batman there. 728 00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:05,240 It just happened. 729 00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:06,240 Where's the UFO? 730 00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:11,520 Actually, in my case, it's like, where's the merit badge? 731 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:12,520 I didn't get it. 732 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,440 I get that merit badge. 733 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:20,800 If there was a create UFO hoax merit badge, I would have nailed it though, that summer 734 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,480 broad merit badge all day long. 735 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:24,480 Done. 736 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:25,480 Done. 737 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,360 Anyway, so that's that's that's the story. 738 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:33,160 Cam, you got anything you want to plug? 739 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,160 Just dance at beer. 740 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,600 I mean, that's that's that's the whole thing. 741 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:37,600 Drink anto beer. 742 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,840 Come visit us at the brewery in Providence. 743 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:46,240 Had a good time there the other night for my buddy's 40th birthday and got some great 744 00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:47,240 beers on tap. 745 00:36:47,240 --> 00:36:48,320 So yeah, come hang out. 746 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,520 We need to make a cryptid cocktail party beer. 747 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,480 I'm 100% on board. 748 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,320 I'm so shit out of here. 749 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,640 Like actually, Dave and I had a couple of ideas. 750 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,120 We were just like joking around the other night. 751 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,320 He was texting me from Canada. 752 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,400 Poor man. 753 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,760 And we were like, oh, we we've got to have a cryptid theme beer. 754 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,800 We have to we have to make it. 755 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:19,040 Well, if we can ever recover him from from the gulags of Canada, we can we can meet up 756 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,040 at the brewery. 757 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,040 Hopefully. 758 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,600 I think I think Trudeau will will release him soon. 759 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,360 I'm certainly crossing my fingers. 760 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,360 He's needed here. 761 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,360 Amanda, do you have anything you'd like to plug? 762 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:30,360 Oh, absolutely. 763 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:31,360 No, I'd like a beer. 764 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:32,360 Yes. 765 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:33,360 It's good, right? 766 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:39,680 No, I'm just a friend of the show. 767 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,320 We appreciate you coming on, especially because your birthday is tomorrow. 768 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:43,320 Yeah. 769 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,240 We're going to let you get away without wishing you a happy birthday. 770 00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:47,240 Happy birthday. 771 00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:48,240 Thank you. 772 00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:50,000 I hope you get some haunted pants. 773 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,840 Oh, my God. 774 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:52,840 Ghost pants. 775 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:53,840 Ghost pants. 776 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,840 Trail cam out tonight. 777 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:56,840 Hopefully. 778 00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,640 I hope you get a trail cam. 779 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:01,640 All right. 780 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:02,640 So that's all we got. 781 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,760 Thank you for listening to another episode of Cryptid Cocktail Party. 782 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,680 Dave will be back next week. 783 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,960 I'm pretty confident we're working out a deal. 784 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,280 We're going to return some maple syrup we stole from Montreal and they're going to give 785 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:15,280 Dave back. 786 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,960 Thank you for listening. 787 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:32,640 May the Mothman bless you and I love you.