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Hey everybody, welcome back to the award-winning Cryptid Cocktail Party, a show where we have

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a few drinks, share a few laughs, take a dive into the unknown.

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I am your award-winning host Dave, joined as always by my award-winning co-host, Sarge,

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what's going on bud?

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Hello, I'm an award-winning superhero.

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I don't know if that's the right word for it.

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I was in Hollywood, that's why we couldn't record last weekend, so I'm important.

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I wasn't in Hollywood for a good reason.

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Well, it was a good reason for me, but it wasn't like, you know.

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Fucking rock star over here, god damn.

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It was work, but I like my job.

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So it was a whirlwind trip.

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I went to Colorado to watch the Air Force Navy game with some coworkers and then journeyed

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onward to LA to do some work stuff.

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Then I got to have some fun as well.

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I saw Arnold Schwarzenegger two hours after my plane landed.

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It's the most absurd thing ever.

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I'm walking through Venice Beach, I'm checking out all the sights.

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I wanted to see the outdoor gym that they show in every 80s movie ever made in California.

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As I'm walking back towards the car, I see this giant mountain on an electric bicycle

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rolling towards me.

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The fact he's on an electric bicycle is even funnier because he's on the way to a gym.

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Like why wouldn't you just get your cardio in now?

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Well, think about it though.

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Think about it.

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He's probably on the electric bicycle to get away from people like me because the minute

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I saw Arnold Schwarzenegger, my jaw dropped and I just stared at him.

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I think he noticed because he was looking at my direction and he had this look on his

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face like, get to the chopper, they found me.

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I need to get away from this fucking wide eyed psycho as fast as possible.

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I would have been an absolute ghoul.

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I would have been like, let me take a picture with you.

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He seems nice enough though.

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I feel like he'd be fine.

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I'm sure he would have been, but I don't want to be that guy who harasses a famous person

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when I see him on the street.

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But I am that guy always and I don't mean to be.

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I'm actually glad he rode by so I didn't make an ass in front of myself in front of the

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Govenator.

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True.

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I bet he deals like, you would remember that forever for the rest of your life as one of

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the most cringiest things.

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For him that's like- I would have told the story to everyone I knew.

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For him that's like Tuesday.

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He doesn't give a fuck.

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Also I saw a picture of him recently and he looks like a fucking jack Santa Claus because

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he has a big beard now.

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That's what I'm saying.

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I saw his beard and that's how I recognized him because I follow him on Instagram.

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This is the second time I've seen Arnold Schwarzenegger.

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I've now seen Arnold Schwarzenegger on two coasts.

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Is he just bored?

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What does he do now?

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Is he just at the Govenator or is he just fucking through his mouth?

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He does videos on Instagram and he's always smoking a cigar.

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When I was in my late teens, I think I was like 19 or almost 20, I was working on Martha's

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Vineyard for a summer.

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But anyway, Arnold Schwarzenegger used to- I don't know if he still does, but he used

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to have a house on the Vineyard and he used to have a big yellow Hummer that he would

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drive around and I spotted him.

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And so I thought, I was like, this is the coolest thing.

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I've now seen him on two different oceans.

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And then I went to Malibu one day.

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We went to dinner at this restaurant.

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I think it's called Sunset at Malibu or something like that.

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And we're on the second floor and you get to see these gorgeous sunsets.

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And so I ran downstairs to call my dad because my parents were away as well and they had

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just arrived home.

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And so I'm talking to my dad and I hear this guy shouting about the UN Security Council.

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Drone strikes in the CIA.

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And I'm thinking, this guy's having an intense conversation.

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I look over and I realize that he's not holding a cell phone and he does not have earbuds

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in and he's looking directly at me.

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And so I was like, uh-oh.

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He was accusing me of being in the CIA.

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And then he pointed right at me and said, California is not afraid of you.

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And we're like, yeah, no, it's a detracts.

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I was like, okay, fair enough.

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I mean, you could be in the CIA.

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Who the fuck knows?

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I don't know.

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You wouldn't tell me if you were.

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Well, I mean, here's the thing.

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I do give, I do at times give off big cop energy and I don't mean to.

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You do.

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It's just like, you know, it's my sunglasses.

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And you know, I was in the military.

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So I have like, oh, it's still like many years later not being in.

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I still kind of have that military bearing.

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So I walk around the corner and finish the phone call with my dad to go back upstairs

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and tell my coworkers and they don't believe me.

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They're like, no, no, no.

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He wasn't talking about it.

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It had to be something else.

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He was probably just yelling at you.

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You look out the window, just standing across the street, pointing at you through the window.

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Well, we come back downstairs to leave and here he is still shouting at me.

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It's like he was just continuing the conversation that he was having with himself or a ghost

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at me.

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And my coworkers got the biggest kick out of this because like I'm a relatively like

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mild-mannered chill guy.

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Like I don't get that worked up at my job.

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I feel like when you work in HR, you can't get worked up.

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That's like the opposite.

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You have to, you have to be really cool and really even keeled.

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Like I'm not like one of those like, no, one of those people that puts on like a facade

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at work.

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I just like, you know, I don't make a big deal about stuff.

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And this dude was, he was losing his mind and they're laughing because like to them,

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it's so absurd.

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That's fucking wild.

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That's insane.

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So thank you for enjoying my 10 minute diatribe about, about the West coast.

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Yeah.

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I'm an LA guy now.

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Not too, but also very exciting news for us.

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I don't know if you're, if I'm sure you guys already forgot by now at the top of the episode,

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but we won an award, best cryptid podcast of 2024 from the para pod podcast awards.

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So boom, which is also by proxy, the two sexiest men in cryptology, cryptozoology, excuse me.

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So we're, we're officially award winning podcasters.

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I'll raise an arrogance to that.

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And we're going to be very obnoxious with it.

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And it's going to be very aggressive.

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Cheers.

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Cheers, buddy.

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Thank you.

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And thank you everyone listening.

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I don't, I mean, it's not like you guys voted or anything like that, but I'm sure something,

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I don't know how it works.

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I just know we want, so fuck it, whatever.

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All right, sorry.

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I have an episode to go over with you today.

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I'm so ready.

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It's our first episode in like two weeks.

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It's been a while, but you know, sometimes, uh, uh, what is it?

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Distance makes a hard girl, Fonda or something like that.

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Whatever.

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Absence or distance.

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Same thing.

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Or, or, you know, like slightly enthusiastic hand jobs.

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All of those things make the hard girl, Fonda.

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Exactly.

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All right.

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Today, Sarge, we are going to be traveling to the Isle of man.

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It's a self-governing British crown dependency located in the Irish sea between England and

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Ireland.

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I don't know what a self-governing British crown dependency is.

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In my head, it's like, I'm like the British version of what I like, like Puerto Rico or

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Guam, I assume, like a territory.

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Like it's still under their control, kind of, but like they have their own government.

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It's got to be like that.

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I think it's kind of like Canada and Australia were until they became fully independent.

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So they're still like under the crown, but they're not, but they have like their own

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parliament and shit.

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Like, God, all right.

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Yes, exactly.

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Now the Isle of man is known for its rugged coastline, its medieval castles, and is home

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to what is considered the quote unquote greatest motorcycle sporting event in the world.

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It's called the Isle of man TT, which is a street racing competition that began in 1907.

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And it takes place over a two week period and has since become a large festival for motorcycle

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culture and is a big part of like the island's economy as a whole.

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I don't know.

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I just wanted to give you a little flavor of where we are.

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Now, this is all modern shit.

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We're going to be going back to 1931.

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So don't worry about any of this stuff.

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Back when, back when motorcycles were really just, you know, you grabbed, you grabbed the

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poorest person in town and paid them to push you on a bicycle.

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But in a, in September of 1931 at the Irving family's isolated farmhouse at the door, Lish

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Koshan located a little way from the village of Dalby, something a bit weirder was a foot

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on the Isle of man.

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See the Irving family consisting of James Irving, his wife, Margaret, and their teenage

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daughter of Laura just arrived at the farmhouse in the fall of 1931.

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Not long after their arrival, the Irvings began hearing odd sounds in their home.

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At first it was just things like scratching, rustling, things you would associate like

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with like a rat or like a sort of animal caught in the wall.

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Then whatever it was started stealing the family's food, which I mean, it's also kind

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of like not stealing, but like eating.

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Like, like you would just expect like a little varmint or whatever.

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Just munching.

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Yeah, just munching.

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So James, the father was like, fuck this and set traps up like, like in all the areas,

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like an animal could get in or out of, but no animal was ever caught yet the noise and

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like the stealing of the food continued.

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As the days passed, the sounds became a bit stranger.

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Like whatever this elusive entity was behind the walls, it started mimicking animal sounds,

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started making what sounded like spitting and growling sounds.

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What in the fuck?

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And then over time it evolved into speech.

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Now at first it's spoken broken and nonsensical sentences, but over time the speech became

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more articulate.

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And finally the entity was able to introduce himself.

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He said, my name is Jeff.

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And he claimed.

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So he said that my name is Jeff.

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And he claimed to be a mongoose born in New Delhi, India in 1852.

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So today's side, we're going to be talking about Jeff, the talking mongoose.

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Are you familiar with this at all?

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I am.

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I am lightly familiar with this.

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So I had a book a long time ago that my mom bought me and it was like a whole book of

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oddities, like, you know, strange rains and time slips in Versailles.

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And of course, G E O F F the talking mongoose.

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I do recall him.

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G E F. Oh, is it G E F?

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I thought it was G E. Okay.

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You got the G right.

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I am mildly familiar with with this story and I actually fucking love it.

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So I'm so glad we're covering it.

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So he said his name is Jeff and he claimed to be a mongoose that was born in New Delhi,

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India in 1852.

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But Jeff made sure to let the family know that he was no ordinary animal telling them

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quote unquote, I am an extra, extra clever mongoose.

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Now at this point, the family's like, what the fuck is happening?

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And they weren't like quite sure what to make of this voice, like, because it's coming from

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the walls like they don't like, was it a spirit, a fucking demon or like, is it actually like

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a talking mongoose?

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Like who the hell knows?

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But they kind of just like resigned to the fact that now they just have to like live

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with it now, which.

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Yeah, I mean, this is kind of a bold play for a ghost.

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Like you're already something that is hard to believe.

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But now you're expecting people to not only accept that you're a ghost that can talk.

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But you're a mongoose, but you chose the name Jeff.

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That's a lot to take it.

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I mean, Jeff's a great name.

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I mean, if you, if it is a great name, but not for a ghost mongoose.

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I mean, yeah, but if you were in a isolated cabin in the middle of the Isle of Man and

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you just heard coming from your walls.

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My name is Jeff.

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Like you'd have a blast.

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I would be extremely excited about this.

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Oh, I'm so glad I fucking stole that selfie.

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I would tell everyone.

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So, no, as time went on, Jeff's interaction became a little more complex, so to say, and

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his personality really began to shine.

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You know, he claimed to live in the walls of the farmhouse and made his presence by

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tapping on walls, moving objects and making a variety of different animal sounds.

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I don't know what they were.

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I'm assuming chickens, dogs, whatever.

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Like I fucking who knows.

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Jeff's and around this time, Jeff also started to let the family in on the fact that he's

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kind of like a mischievous little fucker.

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He's got, he's got like a kind of like a trickster vibe.

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There's no other way to be if you're a ghost mongoose.

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You have to be a trickster.

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Yeah.

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He would he would listen in on conversations happening in the house and would only interrupt

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to make rude or sarcastic comments, which is the best.

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That's exactly what I do.

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Like one example was James Irving, the father, were like trying like speak to Jeff, basically

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try to like, when I was like, who are you, spirit?

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Like just like get to know him better.

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And then Jeff would just openly mock him to his face.

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It's like, what are you doing here, Jeff, when you do need Jeff?

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It's like that kind of shit.

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Stupid.

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Like if James were to ask him a question, like something Jeff would say things like,

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quote, if you knew what I knew, you'd know a hell of a lot.

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Basically just calling him fucking idiot.

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Like, yeah, yeah.

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But Jeff wasn't always a dick.

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Jeff would sing popular songs from the radio from memory, imitate voices and recite nursery

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rhymes.

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He was also a bit of a gossip.

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He claimed he had the ability to travel far from the Irving's farmhouse and he would eavesdrop

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on like neighbors conversations and then bring the hot gossip back to the family.

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Just like I kind of hope that Jeff was actually just like the neighborhood drunk, just living

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in the walls.

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Yeah, just living in the walls.

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I mean, like he needed a place to crash and he's like, what's the most logical thing I

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could be to explain my presence?

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Oh, a mongoose named Jeff from India.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, Jeff would also just start saying random shit.

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Like he said, quote, I am a ghost in the shape of a weasel and I shall haunt you with weird

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noises and clanking chains and quote, or he would say, quote, I am not a spirit.

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I am an extra clever beast.

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End quote.

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Okay.

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Now, I don't know if you've noticed this, but both the sentences kind of like contradict

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each other.

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They don't make any goddamn sense.

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Yeah.

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But it seemed like being an enigma to the family, I guess, is like he loved that shit.

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Like he would claim to be like a spirit or a ghost while other times claiming he's like

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an actual living mongoose.

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Like he just, he just like sows confusion and doubt into whatever is going on.

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And why wouldn't he?

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Yeah.

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He described, he even described himself as being about 12 inches long with yellowish fur,

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a bushy tail and small hands.

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And at this point, Jeff had never like appeared in front of anyone yet.

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So like no one in the family knew like just what the fuck he is.

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He did eventually like show himself to the family.

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I think the father and the daughter were the first to like see him and the activity surrounding

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Jeff and the family kept on intensifying as time went on.

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And by 1933, Jeff seemed to take a liking to the Irving's teenage daughter, Voira.

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The two seemed, they like had like a special connection and they're like pretty close.

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And it's because of this connection and close relationship that much of this story like

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unfolded.

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Voira was home a lot while James and Margaret were out working.

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So she was, so she was able to like hear and see Jeff more than the other members of the

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family.

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And then this led some to believe that she was either like the focus of the phenomenon

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or like the cause of like channeling the entity or whatever.

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Like either intentionally or unintentionally, though Voira maintained that she had nothing

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to do with what happened like spiritually or even like hoaxing it.

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But as Jeff's presence became more entrenched in the household, he started to get what I

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would describe as a little manic.

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See actually before we get into this, how are you doing with this story so far?

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Are you, is this, are you familiar with all of this or are you just know?

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I'm fucking all in.

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I'm familiar with most of this.

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I forgot that he used to pick on the dad.

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He was a straight up asshole to the dad.

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Which is good actually.

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It should be because now it just makes it like a sitcom.

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This is like elf, but with a ghost.

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Yeah.

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Minus the cat eating.

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Yeah.

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We don't know that yet.

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We don't know what, what Jeff would know.

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And was looking true.

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I didn't include this in here, but he also had like, he had like a weird thing where

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like he can't, he didn't act as like a protector, but I think like the family thought he was.

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So they would leave him like little offerings, like chocolates and biscuits and he would

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take them and then he would say, thank you through the walls.

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And then he would just end up being a dick to the dad anyway.

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Like it's fucking hilarious.

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Like Jeff fucking rules, dude.

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Which is exactly like my cat.

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Nice to everyone but me.

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Pretty much.

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I'm the one who feeds him and he's just like, let me know on your hand for a little bit.

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This is basically like if a cat could talk, it's just fucking with you the entire time.

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But like I said, as like things started like increasing, he got a little bit more manic

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because word had started spreading about like what was happening at the Irving farmhouse

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and it started attracting the attention of both the media and paranormal investigators.

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So he became increasingly paranoid about being seen or exposed by outsiders.

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And then he just started, he just started making like fucking shit off the wall remarks

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like like about like what would happen if anyone saw his quote unquote true form stating

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quote unquote, I am a freak.

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I have hands and I have feet.

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And if you saw me, you'd faint.

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You'd be petrified, mummified, turned into a stone or pillar of salt.

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So he's like Goku.

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I don't know.

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I just don't get to see his true form.

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Yeah, I don't know anything about anime.

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I just, my teammate in Iraq used to watch Dragon Ball Z. And the only thing I knew is

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that you had this guy with black hair and it would turn yellow when he had achieved

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his true form.

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And then he was like super strong in a fight.

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Sure.

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That sounds a hundred percent right.

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I'm only saying that because I don't know anything about Dragon Ball either.

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So me either.

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Me neither.

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I feel like Jeff is insinuating here that it's like Pennywise the clown.

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Like, you know, like, like Jeff is like his, like what he can attract humans with, but

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his true form is just something so fucking horrific that your human brain couldn't comprehend

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it, which is hilarious.

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He hasn't achieved his true form.

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He's like, he's like your overly conservative neighbor who believes in, in contrails, but

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he won't or what is it?

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Chemtrails, but he won't tell you all that stuff at first.

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He doesn't achieve his true form until you get him drunk.

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Yeah.

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The first neighborhood barbecue is when that shit starts really coming out.

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Exactly.

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Exactly.

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Yeah, but, but despite Jeff's weird like existential crisis, he did continue to play his tricks,

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you know, stealing food, moving objects, and then eventually started throwing little stones

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at visitors or extended family members when they came and visited.

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I fucking love Jeff.

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Yeah.

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And again, just to be clear, like even though his behavior was mischievous, he was never

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malicious.

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Like he never, like he would say off the wall shit, but he'd never like attacked anyone.

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Like he was, you know what I mean?

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He never harmed anyone.

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He was just, he was like, like a shit talker.

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He was like a, like a fucking pole board troll kind of thing.

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Like he just said fucking crazy shit.

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Which I'm fine with too.

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Yeah.

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Now, uh, in 1935, the family finally allowed the haunting to be investigated.

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Harry Prince and his colleague, Richard Lambert were the lucky two who got this opportunity

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and the pair were rightfully skeptical of the family and their story of a fucking talking

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mongoose demon.

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But they would be, they noted that the family seems sincere in their claims and they weren't

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like gaining any fight.

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Like they, like they weren't making money off this story.

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Like they weren't going out.

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Like they know like a book deal.

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There wasn't like, it's 1930s.

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So it's not like there's like fucking TV camera crews everywhere.

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You know what I mean?

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Like they weren't gaining anything from it.

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So it'd be weird for them to just make shit up.

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But also they were isolated and alone and maybe this is a way to get people to come

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visit them.

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So you know what I mean?

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Like this, they needed some sort of interaction from the outside world.

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Yeah.

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I can see how this conversation goes.

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You know, we don't really see our neighbors that much.

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Maybe we should throw a party.

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And the dad's like, hear me out.

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I got an idea.

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I mean it worked.

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But needless to say, like their investigation into the matter was inconclusive.

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They couldn't find any hard evidence of Jeff outside of the family stories, but they also

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couldn't find any evidence disputing that Jeff wasn't real.

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They did hear some strange unexplained noises like here and there.

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And they got some photographs and some footprints and a first sample, though that was later

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dismissed as being from the family dog.

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But hold on.

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But the footprints though, they were a little more interesting.

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They were a set of four toed prints that didn't match any known species on the Isle of Man.

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So you know what I mean?

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Yeah.

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I'm all in, dude.

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I fucking love this story.

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I want it to be true.

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I will accept it uncritically.

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Now after the investigation, so between like 1935, 1936 timeframe, Jeff's presence became

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less frequent.

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But when he did make himself known, he would just say more just off the wall shit.

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And not and now it's like, and now it's like in an ominous tone.

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I'm going to fucking kill everyone here.

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He would say shit like quote unquote, I'll follow you wherever you go.

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And quote unquote, I have three minds.

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I am not like one of you.

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The fuck does that mean?

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Yeah, I don't know what that means.

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It sounds like Jeff had reached his incel phase.

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It's wild.

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He even shouted once, quote unquote, I am the Holy Ghost, which is at this time in this

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area like super blasphemous.

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And I feel like you should settle down, Jeff.

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Yeah, he's he's going a little.

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He's going a little off the deep end here.

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Little too much.

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Yeah.

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So as the years continued, just presence faded more and more from the family.

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And by the late 30s, they had reported less and less encounters.

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Then in 1945, James passed away and the family sold the farmhouse.

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And it seemed as though once the family left, Jeff kind of moved on as well.

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And there was no more reports either from the family or the new occupants of any antics

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from the talking mongoose.

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Vora moved to England and lived a quiet life after the events on the island, man, and always

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maintained that Jeff had been real.

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She did she did like a rare like interview like later in her life.

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And she expressed how frustrated she was that people doubted her story and insisted that

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she and her family were not part of a hoax and that she regretted the attention the story

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brought brought to her and her family.

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And she just wants to like leave the whole thing behind her in the past.

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I mean, for me, part of the reason I believe that this story is real to some degree, at

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least to the people who live there, is who would make that shit up?

477
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Yeah, right.

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Like if you want someone to believe that your house on an isolated island off the coast

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of England is haunted, you would you would pick a fucking sea captain or, you know, like

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a puffin, some kind of sea sea going creature if you wanted it to be an animal.

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You're not going to pick a fucking mongoose from India.

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Well, maybe they thought that fucking like Ricky Tiki Tavi was just like to them it was

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so exotic.

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They're like, what if he said it was an exotic animal?

485
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,200
Yeah, they're like Ricky Tiki Tavi is the tits.

486
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,480
Right. A whole fucking script about that instead.

487
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:24,480
Yeah.

488
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,880
But like, but so just what was Jeff the talking mongoose?

489
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,560
There are a couple of theories floating around.

490
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,560
I figured we could discuss.

491
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:32,560
Yes.

492
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:33,560
You can tell me your favorite one.

493
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:34,560
I got one that I like.

494
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:35,560
I'm pretty biased.

495
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:40,080
So, yeah, why don't we just try and solve this right now?

496
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,760
The first theory is that it's just a straight up hoax.

497
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,640
OK, I don't.

498
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,000
Some think that whoever came up with that.

499
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:53,660
So something that Voira was like solely responsible for what they think was a long term prank.

500
00:24:53,660 --> 00:25:01,360
They claim that Voira was using ventriloquism to like throwing her voice to create the voice

501
00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:06,680
of Jeff the mongoose, which is bananas, because that means you would have to practice ventriloquism.

502
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,200
You have to know what ventriloquism was.

503
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,480
Yeah.

504
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:11,560
Practice it.

505
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,040
And that like I just don't buy that one at all.

506
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,920
That one's a little too insane for me.

507
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,120
Yeah, it's not like they have YouTube.

508
00:25:18,120 --> 00:25:20,600
You know, she can't Google how to ventriloquism.

509
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:21,600
Right.

510
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:22,600
Come on.

511
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:23,600
Come on.

512
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,280
It's pretty bananas.

513
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,920
Number two is poltergeist.

514
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,920
This one seems the most plausible to me.

515
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,120
Like just behavior does closely resemble activity you'd see with poltergeist.

516
00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:39,600
Like, first and foremost, like the focus of Jeff was the young girl.

517
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:44,660
And it's like a lot of poltergeist activities for some reason does focus around young women.

518
00:25:44,660 --> 00:25:46,360
Also the fact that it's near water.

519
00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:49,360
Poltergeist activity also happens to be very prevalent near water.

520
00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:52,920
And it kind of makes sense that like as she grew up out of her adolescence, that like

521
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:57,320
that's why the reason Jeff's shit started like fading away.

522
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:02,620
But also like, you know, you add in like the mischievous and disruptive behavior of Jeff.

523
00:26:02,620 --> 00:26:04,220
Like it just seems to fit really.

524
00:26:04,220 --> 00:26:05,720
Like I don't know.

525
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,120
Does that make sense?

526
00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:08,280
I don't know that makes sense.

527
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,300
Yeah, but I think so.

528
00:26:11,300 --> 00:26:18,840
The reason that I'm leaning towards that too, is that with poltergeist activity, typically

529
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,080
it centers around teenage children.

530
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,000
She was a teenage teenage girl.

531
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,000
Yeah.

532
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,000
When they moved there, she was a teenager.

533
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,720
I don't know how young the thing is, though, like I don't remember.

534
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,640
I don't I don't think I've ever read a story with a poltergeist spoke.

535
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,020
Could be a mixture of both, though.

536
00:26:34,020 --> 00:26:35,020
Like you know what I mean?

537
00:26:35,020 --> 00:26:40,360
Like she could be trying to explain away all the weird shit that her that she knows is

538
00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:44,000
centered around her by learning ventriloquism.

539
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:49,000
It's like it's like a like a one to combo kind of thing.

540
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,840
Yeah, she wouldn't be the first awkward, isolated and uncomfortable teenager who resorted to

541
00:26:53,840 --> 00:27:01,720
learning ventriloquism.

542
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:06,560
The number three, the third theory is that it was a shared delusion.

543
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,840
So some people think that the family experienced some sort of collective delusion.

544
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,880
And as things would occur, they would just reinforce each other's beliefs in Jeff over

545
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:15,880
time.

546
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,320
So like over time, they just everyone was like, that's fucking Jeff.

547
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,920
I mean, I mean, that's also pretty plausible, weirdly enough.

548
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,640
It is, especially since you're isolated.

549
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,640
It's just you three in the house over time.

550
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:31,400
Like it is there was a story recently about a very isolated family in Australia.

551
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:36,480
This happened, I want to say, within the last 10 years or so, where they had some kind of

552
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,200
crazy delusion that they all shared.

553
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,920
And then one by one, the family kind of came out of it.

554
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,480
Now, they don't like to talk about it at all.

555
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:51,440
But during this delusion, they all ran away from their farm and like traveled across the

556
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:52,760
country.

557
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,840
And that's when they started to fall off.

558
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,600
Like as things got crazier and crazier, the two kids are like, oh, wait, no, this isn't.

559
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,240
Yeah, we're not being hunted.

560
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,040
Well, it's like that Ashley Judd and fucking what's his name movie where they think the

561
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,640
house is full of bugs.

562
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,680
Oh, oh, oh, yeah.

563
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:09,840
And they fuck another one you're talking about.

564
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:10,840
I can't remember what it's called.

565
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:11,840
And all that stuff.

566
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,920
And like they are like he she gets sucked into his like delusions turns out none of it's

567
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:16,920
real.

568
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:17,920
It's fucking wild.

569
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:18,920
Yeah.

570
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:19,920
I don't know what it's called.

571
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:20,920
Yeah.

572
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:21,920
Folly you do.

573
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,920
It's pretty much not the name of the movie, but that's that's the when two people share

574
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:25,920
delusion.

575
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:31,400
You know, there's twins from Sweden who went nuts in England and they both ran into the

576
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,360
middle of the road and tried to get hit by cars.

577
00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:40,400
And then one sister was in the hospital and the other one escaped from the hospital and

578
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:41,640
actually murdered someone.

579
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:42,640
Jesus.

580
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,080
They were sharing a delusion.

581
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:49,800
And now the sister who didn't murder someone is living in L.A. and the other sister is

582
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,800
in prison in England.

583
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,360
So yeah, that was possible.

584
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,440
And then number four, the final one we got this one.

585
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:58,800
I don't I don't know.

586
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:04,280
It's something Jeff may have been a cryptid or some sort of folkloric spirit cryptid.

587
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,280
I don't know.

588
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:06,280
I don't think so.

589
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,560
As far as cryptids are notoriously talkative.

590
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:09,560
Yeah.

591
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:10,560
Folkloric spirit.

592
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:11,560
Maybe.

593
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:17,160
I mean, he does have like a trickster kind of trickster God kind of feel to him.

594
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,240
But I mean, the point of folklore is that it's folklore.

595
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,560
There's nothing I mean, like, I don't think that one is real to me.

596
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:25,560
The Poltergeist seems the most.

597
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,040
Yeah, I don't buy it.

598
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:32,840
To me, Poltergeist seems like the most poltergeist or shared delusion would be my.

599
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:33,840
Yeah.

600
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,240
But then again, the other thing about the shared delusion is didn't didn't you say

601
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,560
other people heard it as well?

602
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,080
Not the talking, but they heard the strange noises and stuff.

603
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,880
They heard unexplained sounds.

604
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,520
But I mean, you're in a farmhouse on an island.

605
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:46,520
Right.

606
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,080
You know, you're going to hear sounds like, you know what I mean?

607
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,800
But in the end, I mean, I guess we'll never really know.

608
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:52,800
And who cares?

609
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,560
Like if we don't know, it's a fun, silly story of a talking mongoose that fucked with the

610
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,040
family for almost a decade.

611
00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,720
Like it's a fun story.

612
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:00,720
It's weird.

613
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,540
But yeah, so there you have it.

614
00:30:02,540 --> 00:30:04,720
That is the tale of Jeff the talking mongoose.

615
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,080
How you feeling, Sarge?

616
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,080
What do you think?

617
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,080
Thoughts, feelings?

618
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,080
I'm feeling pretty good.

619
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,400
My poltergeist has joined me.

620
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:11,400
Hi, Lucille.

621
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,600
How are you, sweetheart?

622
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:19,040
For those of you who are only listening to this, my dog has decided to crash the party.

623
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,040
She missed me.

624
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,000
I was gone for eight days, so I don't blame her.

625
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,000
I don't know.

626
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,000
I don't think a poltergeist probably makes the most sense to me.

627
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,800
The talking is like the only thing that's kind of throwing me off.

628
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:37,680
I don't think the shared delusion makes that much sense, only because, like, again, like,

629
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:38,680
why a mongoose?

630
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,400
OK, so so there you have it.

631
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,600
I think I think we figured it out.

632
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:44,600
I think it was a poltergeist.

633
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:45,600
Yeah, I think it's a poltergeist.

634
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,000
I think we solved it.

635
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,000
Case closed.

636
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,760
Yeah, we cracked the case.

637
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,400
We cracked the case in in 38 minutes.

638
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:57,520
Granted, 10 of those minutes I spent bragging about my trip to L.A., but nonetheless, I

639
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:58,760
think we cracked the case.

640
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:03,120
And then let's also say that, like, this is the reason why we're award winning podcasters

641
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,080
is that we we crack.

642
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,360
We get right down to it.

643
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:07,360
We figure it out.

644
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,360
It was for us.

645
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:09,920
A lot of this shit would just be unheard of.

646
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,280
I like the rest of you saps just talking about it.

647
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,280
Right.

648
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,280
We fucking solve it.

649
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,280
Yeah, we're boots on the ground, motherfucker.

650
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:23,040
But for real, I can't believe we won based on who we were up against.

651
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,040
Dude, like I just like who we are as people.

652
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,800
Just I can't believe we won.

653
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:28,800
I'm so grateful.

654
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:29,800
I'm so grateful.

655
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:35,560
All right, Sarge, do you have anything you want to plug before we sign off?

656
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,720
You know, we're getting we're getting close to the election.

657
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:43,640
So please go to SagesSuperNormal.com by my coloring book to help you ease your anxiety

658
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:48,200
while we wait for the downfall of our nation.

659
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,560
I'm just kidding.

660
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,520
The downfall happened a long time ago.

661
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,280
Now we're just the smoldering embers of what used to be America.

662
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,240
But still go buy the coloring book.

663
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:05,320
And I am not in the CIA as much as that gentleman in California insisted upon it.

664
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:06,840
He is incorrect.

665
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,800
They wouldn't take me because I'm an idiot.

666
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:14,640
You I feel like you're protesting a little too much, bud, coming off as someone who might

667
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,320
be in the CIA.

668
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,920
Me thinks the lady doth protest too much.

669
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:19,920
All right.

670
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:24,480
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671
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,320
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672
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,800
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673
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,560
and pretty much any platform and you'll find it.

674
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:32,560
Yeah, you'll find me.

675
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:33,560
I'm there.

676
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:34,560
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677
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,560
I know we're award winning podcasters, so it doesn't mean anything to us, but it actually

678
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,440
does help a lot.

679
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:43,440
It definitely helps.

680
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:48,040
You know, five stars, you know, leave five stars and then just shit talk us in the review.

681
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,040
I think it'd be really fun.

682
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,040
Yeah, that's fine.

683
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,040
That's fine.

684
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,720
You know, we should do is we should make we should make like trophies.

685
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,240
But like just had a like plywood and tin foil.

686
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,480
That'd be really fun.

687
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,440
Yeah, we should make a because I don't think that I don't think they gave out like a certificate

688
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,440
or anything.

689
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,440
So we could just make our own.

690
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,440
Yeah, I'll think of something.

691
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,800
Yeah, leave a rating review, Apple, Spotify, wherever you can.

692
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,200
We have a Patreon, it's five dollars a month.

693
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,320
We don't do anything with it.

694
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:15,320
It's fine.

695
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,000
It's just to support the show because things are expensive.

696
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,000
You don't have to if you don't want to.

697
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,360
But I mean, like it'd be cool if you did.

698
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,760
It'd be it'd be a lot cooler if you did be a lot cooler if you did.

699
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,640
All right, Sarge, with that out of the way, do you want to say goodbye and I love you

700
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:28,640
to the audience?

701
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,560
Hey, you guys, I love you.

702
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,360
Even though I'm an award winning podcaster, I didn't forget you.

703
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,120
My name is Jeff.

