Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to another episode of Cryptic Cocktail Party, a show where we have
a few drinks, share a few laughs, take a dive into the unknown.
I'm your host, Dave, and joined as always by Sarge the Destroyer.
What's going on, buddy?
What's going on?
Nothing.
Woo.
I'm feeling weird.
Started a new medication, so I'm feeling weird.
But I'm here physically.
Yeah.
Physically, I'm here.
I'm glad that you aren't, like, nude.
That's a plus.
True.
Although I'm not supposed to be drinking while on this medication, but I don't care.
That's the fun part about getting old, man.
I'm also not supposed to be drinking.
Well, yours is...
Your thing is worse than my thing, I feel like.
Do you want to tell the audience what's going on with you or do you want to keep it on the hot side?
Yeah, me and Ben Franklin and Henry VIII now have something in common.
I got the gout, like a 17th century lord.
Very proud of myself.
I mean, also, you're very regal and you have the name of someone who could be like a knight,
like Sarge the Destroyer.
Of course.
They would sing ballads about you back in the 1700s, I feel like.
Well, so I have a delightful skin condition known as psoriasis that I picked up from my time in the Middle East.
Yeah.
Typically, people get psoriasis from, like, just genetics, but I'm the only one in my family with it.
And it didn't develop until I came home from Iraq.
So we don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to figure that one out.
From what I know about psoriasis and eczema is that sometimes it can be brought about by stress.
It might be dormant in your thing.
So I would say going to Iraq, which is an active stress factor.
Somewhat.
Well, there's also some early data showing that exposure to burn pits could bring it on as well.
Gotcha.
But regardless, people who have psoriasis are twice as likely.
I thought you said that like Dada, like like you're like a baby with the way the baby says, dad.
I was so confused.
My dad said my dad said you could get out from anything.
I told you the medications fuck with my brain.
That's all right.
So the early data says that you can get psoriasis from burn pits.
I'm pretty confident that's where I got it from.
So I get to enjoy the psoriasis, the itchy scalp mostly.
Yeah.
Used to manifest on my face, but gratefully, that has stopped happening.
So I don't have a red face all the time.
Really fun times in my life being old.
But anyway, so when you have psoriasis, you're twice as likely to get the gout.
Yeah.
So that's exciting.
Yeah.
And I'm glad that I'm sharing all this information with the audience.
Just so you guys know, the things I do to survive.
I take so many pills in the morning.
Well, I mean, they care.
I mean, yeah.
You know, well, no, I know.
I know they care.
I don't I don't I don't think they want to care, but I feel like I'm forcing them to.
But yes, so it sucks.
Gout's a gout to pain in the balls.
But the good news is I'm going to be eating a lot healthier.
So I don't get it anymore.
I guess if you just limit like red meat and stuff like that and you don't eat
packaged, you know, beef jerky and shit, you'll be OK.
Sounds awful.
It's really terrible.
I fucking hate it. But but I'm going to be.
It'll also add like a bunch of years to your life, though.
I mean, let's be honest, like more time with your kids.
Exactly. And I'll I'll have I'll have the body of a Greek god,
because most of the time I just fill this thing up with cold spaghetti.
Oh, so, man, I've I've seen pictures of you from the past.
You were from back in the day when I was you were a fucker.
You were I guess I was I was a minx.
That's is that it?
Let's put it this way.
I wouldn't have kicked you out of bed for eating crackers. All right.
I was I was a zaddy.
So, yeah, I'm.
That's what the kids are saying, isn't it?
I food almost 40. I have no fucking idea.
I don't know. I don't know.
All right. So do you remember last week?
The episode we did last week on the Motto Talk project?
Yes, of course. OK.
So this episode is here for reminding me is going to be
it's going to be kind of like a continuation on that.
I don't know if you remember, but the end of at the end of last episode,
I said we're going to continue this on
because I'm really big into this time travel conspiracy theory ship.
So it's one of my favorite types of conspiracy theories.
So we're going to be continuing that on with the sister
project, I guess you could call it that.
It's a project Pegasus.
Are you familiar with Project Pegasus at all?
I I feel like.
I feel like it might be a brony thing.
It's like it's some kind of in cell thing that's going on.
Well, let's put it this way, if you're into Project Pegasus,
you probably are an in cell because.
Yeah, you might be a brony.
Yeah. So I shouldn't be mean to the bronies.
They haven't done anything wrong.
Yeah. I honestly haven't heard the word brony in years.
I don't even know if that's a thing.
Yeah, it is still a thing.
Is it? It is still.
I'm sure they exist, but I feel like, yeah, it's they're probably more accepted now.
Well, yeah, I mean, we're still in the process of
it's a it's a different age. Exactly.
All right. Sorry. So everything we know about Project Pegasus
comes more or less from one man.
This is a lawyer and self proclaimed whistleblower named Andrew Basiago.
Now, according to Andrew, Project Pegasus was a secret government program
operated under the under the Defense Advanced Research Agency or DARPA for short.
Are you familiar with DARPA?
Have you heard of it? Yes, yes, I am familiar with DARPA.
It's like a shadowy organization that does a ton of stuff and none of it's that bad.
But everyone thinks it's that bad.
Yeah. The way the conspiracy theories think about it is that it's like they're like
it's like they're like R&D for like crazy scientific.
Yeah, they're the ones that are like controlling the weather from that.
That's hard satellites they have.
And oh, I'm thinking of Harp. Yeah, you're right.
Yes. But the so the Defense Advanced Research Agency or DARPA
is probably the people behind Harp.
Like it's one of those it sounds scary and but it's literally just
them researching technology and stuff like that.
And if you put their name together, it sounds like like a long,
extinct musical instrument.
The DARPA Harp. Yeah, DARPA Harp.
Now you play it with the leg of a of a tyrannosaurus Rex.
So, OK, I don't even know what that means.
It's that's a dinosaur. I don't know.
I know. God damn it, Sarge.
All right. You go to public school up here because that that would explain it.
Why is the DARPA Harp played with this?
Because it's a long, extinct musical instrument.
This is circular now. And now we're going around in circles.
I'm I just so sorry.
Sarge, my brain is already fried.
I can't handle what is happening.
I'm derailing this show. Yes.
I did not sleep well last night, so that has a lot to do with it.
OK, let's let's circle back.
Let's keep going. Yeah.
Driving on driving on my last email.
So Project Pegasus was a secret government program operated under
under the Defense Advanced Research Agency or DARPA for short, not Harp.
Now, this went on during the late 60s and early 70s, 1968 to 1972, to be exact.
Now, the goal of this project, much like with Montauk, was to develop
and refine time travel and teleportation technologies
for military intelligence and geopolitical purposes.
There's no. Well, that went with the Philadelphia experiment.
So yeah, good idea, guys.
So there's with this one, though, there's no like with Montauk.
They did all these things, but they also did the psychological shit.
This does not. Yeah, stuff.
So at least there's that.
Now, Andrew claims that he was recruited into the Project Pegasus
at the ripe old age of six by his father, Raymond Basiago,
who was, I guess, an engineer for classified military projects,
according to Andrew.
Now, just like at Montauk, Project Pegasus like to recruit young.
And there's a couple of different reasons for this.
One, children's minds, according to Andrew, are much more adaptable
to the stresses involved with time travel and teleportation.
I believe that was our Kelly's methods as well, which included,
but are not limited to like disorientation,
spatial confusion and unspecified psychological effects.
I guess they like attempted to do like these experiments with adults
in the past, but they more or less from what I gathered,
like when just full on insane when they did it with.
So they essentially just made these children work at target.
Yeah, pretty much. Yeah.
Now, another reason to use kids is that their minds are easier
to condition and control than the minds of adults.
Kids are impressionable and can easily be like indoctrinated
into following the directives of their handlers, like
no questions asked. Right.
And the last reason is that no one is going to believe a kid
if they start like blabbing about a top secret teleportation
time travel operation.
Like if an eight year old kid ran up to you, it was like and you
and you were like, hey, buddy, what did you do this weekend?
And they were like, I went in a time machine and went back in time
and met Jesus. You'd be like.
Cool. Sounds like you had an eventful weekend and you just like
move on from that conversation like you wouldn't.
Oh, I wouldn't have moved on.
We would have. Yes.
And that way all the way to the end.
I want to know everything.
What I'm saying is that you would you wouldn't believe a word
they said, like you wouldn't.
Oh, no, of course not. But I would ask many questions.
Exactly. But I mean, that's also this is like really smart.
Like if you're using like a fucking eight year old.
Yeah, no, that's that's a good point.
Also, little kids have small hands.
So, you know, if the machinery breaks, they can put those little digits
in there and fix shit.
Well, yeah, it's kind of like a snowpiercer, how they use the small.
Yeah, yeah, no.
Well, it's funny you say that, because I mean, we'll get that
the size thing in a bit.
OK, so Sarge, let's talk about like what these nerds were up to.
So the central focus of Project Pegasus was teleportation and time travel.
Like I said, yeah, according to Andrew, the U.S.
government had developed three different devices to aid in this endeavor
with the help of some research notes that were, quote unquote, seized
from the late great Nikola Tesla after his death in 1943.
Now, there's some I see there's some like.
So some people say that the government stole these from him before it,
like they broke into his apartment before he died and stole this information.
Or once he died, they like.
Stole it from him, you know what I mean?
But anyway, so so these three pieces of equipment were teleporters,
Stargates and the Chrono visor.
OK, any questions so far?
Several. But I'm going to let you keep going because I'm going to derail it again.
So just ignore me.
All right. So let's start off simple.
We'll start. We'll start.
We'll start with tele teleporters, which is like the simplest of the three devices.
So Basiago describes teleporters as like the backbone of Project Pegasus.
These were physical machines designed to transport individuals
or like things from one location to another on Earth instantly.
He described them as being too large elliptical booms about eight feet tall.
And in the middle, they were separated by a quote unquote
she shimmering field of radiant energy.
I don't know what an elliptical boom is, but I can only assume
it looks like just like two giant pillars.
And in between it is like.
Like, you know, like the force fields in Star Wars, I assume it kind of looks like that.
Like that's just there.
And you'd walk through, you'd end up wherever you are.
But these teleporters, while impressive, were still limited to Earthly travel.
They didn't involve time travel, nor could they send you to like other planets.
For those types of things, Project Pegasus needed something even more advanced.
And this is where the Stargates come into play.
So unlike teleporters, which only dealt with spatial relocation,
Stargates could manipulate both space and space.
Stargates could manipulate both space and time.
Now, according to Basiago, a Stargate wasn't just a device
that would take you from like one location to another on Earth.
It could transport you across space time, opening portals
to different points in history or even different planets like Mars.
He describes the Stargates as complex machines that would create
a kind of wormhole, allowing participants to step into one place
and emerge either in the past, the future or, like I said, another planet like Mars.
So it's like, I don't know how I don't know.
Yeah, like it seems pretty simple, though.
The way someone described wormholes to me is if you had
Are you doing the thing where you fold a piece of paper in half?
Yeah. Yeah. No, I guess.
So like you got. Yeah.
And then it just connects them.
And yeah, the wormhole thing wasn't wasn't wasn't what I was confused about.
Well, OK. That's where I was like.
It's done. Yeah. Well, I mean, like, all right.
So so this is how it would work.
So basically you would step into a specially designed structure
known as a jump room.
They would flip on this, like flip the Stargate on, I assume, like
toggle some switches, turn some knobs and like the wormhole would open
and you just walk on through and I guess pop out wherever
you were supposed to like end up.
Yeah. Here's where I like I don't fully know how the time travel part of this works.
And here's why I get the teleportation.
Like you step into one thing, you pop out another.
That makes sense to me.
But as far as time travel goes, like, do you go in and pop out
like the same Stargate just in the past future or like Mars or whatever?
Do you go through and you go to second Stargate and you're in the past
or future there like if I'm in Philly and I have a Stargate
and there's another Stargate in Florida, like if I want to go back in time,
do I step through mine and then end up in the past in Florida?
Or do I come out my own Stargate in Philly just like in
but like in the past of Philly?
And does does this mean that like the government, like,
do they have to go back in time or the future and install Stargates
to be used at all points in time throughout history?
Or does the Stargate travel with me?
Because like, how would I get back?
Exactly. There's so many there's so many problems with time travel.
And the more I think about it, like the more I'm like, you can't you can't.
Because here's the thing, like, have you ever,
you know, the archaeological digs, right?
They're always digging in the ground and they can say like,
oh, you know, this is saying, you know, this is this era
and then further down is this era.
So let's say I want to go back to dinosaur times, right?
Would I just come out like 20 feet in the air and then fall to the ground
because the ground wasn't that high before?
I don't know. You could also be in the middle of the ocean.
Exactly. I just don't I don't like my chances, is I guess what I'm trying to say.
Yeah. But you know, I think our problem is, Sarge, what is that?
We're thinking about it. We're thinking about it.
Yeah, I don't think about it. Yeah, you just got to think about it.
Yeah. So anyways, according to Andrew, these Stargates were installed
in various secret locations all around the world,
including one at Curtis Wright Aeronautic Company in New Jersey.
There's also one at Los Alamos in New Mexico, because of course,
that's where there would be one. Yeah.
But those are just like terrestrial locations.
Andrew also claimed that the US government had a secret base on Mars.
So of course, we've got to put a Stargate there.
Naturally. Obviously.
And that brings us to our final piece of time travel technology.
The US government also developed a piece of equipment known as the Chrono visors.
The Chrono visor.
Now, the Chrono visor, for what I can gather, is basically just like the Oculus
headset, like it allowed it allowed participants to view historical and future
events as if they were watching like a live holographic broadcast.
It's basically like VR, like you can watch the events play out in real time,
but you can't like physically,
you aren't physically there and you can't interact with anything.
How this works, I have no fucking idea.
Like, I don't know.
How this would work.
And I'm but I mean, I would like to be able to use
of all the things that you've mentioned, I feel like I would prefer the Chrono visor.
Yes, I don't want to go back in time.
What if I encounter an illness that I'm not familiar with?
And my body just fucking dies immediately.
But what if I bring something terrible back and change all the other timelines?
I would rather just look.
I just want to know.
What stuff look like true and also with the teleporter,
like I don't want to have a fly situation on my hands, like I don't want to write.
Like, yeah, all this.
I don't know. I feel like Andrew wasn't a details guy
when he was coming up with this, like no, which is weird for a lawyer.
But also, I feel like for a conspiracy theorist,
like I feel like some of the some of them, like you can tell they're fake
because of the crazy amount of detail that they put into it.
But this is just like lazy, I feel like.
Well, I also think maybe he's not a real lawyer either.
That I don't know. I didn't look into it like maybe maybe he went to like
America, Samoa University, go land crabs.
You know what I mean? Not like a real. College.
Like he went he went to like Arizona State, you know what I mean?
Yeah, I got you. I got you.
Just kidding. My brother goes to Arizona State.
I'm just being a jerk.
But yeah, like I don't.
Is he like an expert in bird law? Like what's he's not?
You can't be a lawyer.
A real lawyer doesn't believe that you can travel through time.
Unless, of course, you're, you know, what's that guy's name?
He is a real lawyer and we will just.
Don't worry about it.
OK, hold your. He's like Linwood.
You know who Linwood is, right?
Yeah, yeah. That crazy son of a bitch.
Now, Andrew claims that the government used the chrono visor to view
like potential, quote unquote, future events.
And this allowed them to make strategic decisions based on like the probable outcome.
He went on to describe how the chrono visor would sometimes show
multiple different futures and then the government agents would use
this information to like prepare for different scenarios.
Apparently, 9-11 wasn't one of them because.
Yeah, neither was coronavirus.
Yeah. So anyway, so we just flew blind into that one.
Nice work, guys.
So when you're using the chrono visor, you're pretty much like a passive
observer of like the past and the future and you can't interact.
You can only watch like basically like a time traveling cuck.
But it's different.
It's like I like to watch.
But it's a different story with the Stargates, like participants
of Project Pegasus were indeed sent to different periods of time to observe
and in some cases, like influence historical events.
Andrew himself claimed to have witnessed the Gettysburg Address,
the drafting of the Declaration of Independence.
He interacted with future presidents, even saying that some people were groomed
to be future presidents and even went to Mars and.
Sarge, that is where we will pick up next week with Andrew's exploits
and time travel, his missions to Mars with Barack Obama.
We're also going to discuss his 2016 presidential run.
This man is still alive and you could call him today if you wanted to.
We're going to. You should get him on the show.
We're also going to talk about the connections between Project Pegasus,
the Montauk Project and the Philadelphia experiment, how they all kind of come
together. We're going to do all that next week.
Sarge, so far, we've been talking about the
project for the last two weeks, Sarge, so far, how are you feeling about Project
Pegasus? I feel like we went through a lot.
I am. I am erect.
We kind of rushed through a lot of it, too.
Like there's a bunch of shit.
I'm very hard right now.
We have piqued my curiosity.
Yeah, I need to know so much more and we need to get this guy on the show.
I can't imagine that he is super busy.
If you want to if you want to find out his contact information and reach out to him,
maybe he can give us.
Yes.
Send me his full name and I'm going to we're going to make this happen.
Yeah, like I said, he ran for president in 2016, so he's not he can't be that old.
If he was like six years old in the late 70s or early 70s.
We got to I got to just I want to know.
I want to know what kind of crazy he is.
Like, is he Rudy Giuliani crazy?
Like age just got the better of him or the Linwood crazy like shit in his pants?
I couldn't tell you.
I just know that it's going to be.
Well, it's going to be good.
Yeah, I'm worried about it.
So, yeah, they got to track him down.
This sounds super fascinating.
I am very excited for the next.
I love these kinds of conspiracies.
Yeah, because they're just so insane, but they also trigger this like spot in my imagination.
Yeah, my favorite is the fact that he brings Barack Obama into it.
And I know I'm going to love that.
It's the best part is that so he so he ran for president in 2016.
And we'll cover this more in the next episode.
But he did call out Barack Obama like during like all of that.
And of course, Barack Obama like never responded like he was.
But the conspiracy theorists took like his like
not even entertaining the idea that he was part of time travel missions to Mars
as like proof that he did have time travel.
You know, I mean, it's like the silence equals acceptance.
Kind of thing, of course.
And it's just like, fuck, dude.
But it gets so that's why I get so frustrated with the CIA when they're like.
We can neither confirm nor deny
our relationship with this person.
And it's like, well, I mean, come on, when you say that,
that just means you're confirming it, I feel like when someone says
I can neither confirm nor deny that, to me, that's just like office speak
for confirming it right.
But every once in a while, the CIA is like, no, we have no idea who that guy is.
It's every once in a while.
But they did it recently with some some jackass who was pretending
to be a CIA agent, and they were like, no, no, you were definitely not part of this.
But also, that could be that he mean he was.
I know you can't really trust him, right?
Very sneaky ship.
All right, Sarge, well, that's the episode.
Any last said any any last thoughts, comments, questions?
You can see how this is related to the Montauk project, though.
My mind is the telepathic and mind creatures.
Yeah, I can't wait for this to get real weird.
It's going to get it's already weird.
I want it to get real weird.
Yeah, it's going to get real good.
I'm so excited. All right.
So with that, Sarge, you got anything you want to plug?
Yeah, my coloring book, Sages supernormal dot com.
Nine ninety nine. It's a coloring book.
It's got activities in it.
And, you know, it's not for your kids.
So don't give it to them unless you want them to learn all kinds of new swears.
What else? Vote, please vote.
Yeah, please vote.
Please, please participate, because otherwise,
you know, I'm not going to get into the details, but you should vote.
And that that's all that's all I got.
You can follow us on the Internet.
You can just Google Sarge the Destroyer.
The only person dumb enough to use that name.
So it's pretty easy to find me.
Or you could just go to the
Crypto cocktail party Instagram and there's a thing there that has all of our links in it.
Yeah, I think that pretty much covers all of it.
Yeah, I'm just trying to help you out, man.
I know you're feeling a little foggy today.
No, you did it. You're great. I love you.
I wanted to jump in. I love you.
Let's see. I think that's it.
If you guys got any like stories you want to share with us, send
please share your stories.
Either one of us a message or an email at Crypto cocktail at Gmail dot com.
And when Bill's mafia dad shared that story, we still I still haven't read it.
I apologize. Bill's mafia dad.
I'm going to get to what I promise.
Yeah, we'll get I'll share that story next week.
Yeah, Chris cocktail at Gmail dot com or shoot any one of us
just DM, you know, keep it brief, keep it like, you know, also.
I was going to say keep it family friendly, but you know what I mean?
Like it's not family friendly.
So just make it.
Yeah. Just tell us the story.
I mean, if it's like a letter to Penn House kind of story, you know,
just the story, I mean, if it's like a letter to Penn House kind of story, maybe
one us first.
So I don't read it live on air.
But if you're fucking a ghost, just, you know, give us a heads up.
Still tell us, but send send animation, you know, draw it out for us.
Yeah, I'll leave the rating in review.
That'd be awesome.
Tell your friends about us.
Tell your dad, what's your dad like?
Tell him about the show.
And drink Narragansett.
Yes, please drink Narragansett.
OK, all right.
So with that out of the way,
would you like to say goodbye and I love you to the audience?
Hey, everybody. Goodbye.
And I love you.