Hey everyone real quick before the episode begins just want you know that we had a little technical difficulties at the very beginning of the
Episode so for like the first ten minutes or so sarja's audios a little warbly and wank not wanky janky
But it does get better. I promise just muscle through it. It's not that bad, but with that enjoy the episode
Hey everybody welcome back to another episode of cryptic cocktail party show we have a few drinks share a few laughs take a dive into the
Unknown I'm your host Dave and as always I am joined by the handsomely
Handsome boy sarja destroyer what's going on man? Hey? Oh, what's going on everybody? I'm sage. How are you?
Asking me or the audience
Who I was listening okay, whoever wants to be a part of my life right now. Yeah, I really got to stop trying to ad-lib those intros
I just got to start saying as joy does always by Sarge because every time I do I tongue twist it up. I get fucked up
But anyways to answer your question even though it wasn't directed specifically to me. I'm doing fine. How are you bud?
I'm I'm I'm sick. Yeah, I've got a bit of the cold
Oh, yeah, so not sick like in a skateboarding way, but like sick is in like a health way
I'm rad is in a skateboarding way, but I am sick is in a
Physical health way mentally. I'm pretty much all there
For the most part okay there we go all right
Yeah, for the most part like you know I could be better you said that was such confidence
I was kind of questioned against maybe it's the cold getting to your head the way I look at it is it like I
Know what's wrong with me? You know and that's that's half the battle
Yeah, according to GI Joe knowing is half the battle
I don't know what the other half is because I don't ever say but it is what it is
I was the worst part is I was actually really excited. I had a good good start to the week
Lego has just released their D&D minifigure line. Oh
Yeah, that ass. Yeah, they got mind flares and tea flings and all kinds of cool shit and
I
Was very excited. I found a way to get all of them
Because even though they do blind bags
If you scan the little QR code on the bottom through like program on Jay's brick blog
I'm getting real. These are some real deep Lego cuts right now. Just you know
You can find all which ones in which box and that's what I did
I cheated the system. I'm sorry Lego, but I don't have time to fuck around and buy like 30 of these things
You cheated the system the same way that people when they go to like a Star Wars land at Disney
They cheat the system to try and find the black hyper crystals
You did the exact same thing and I know that's exactly what I did and I appreciate that if
Because I would do the exact same thing because fuck that look if I if I was like a ten-year-old kid
That was just using my paper route money or something to do this. Yeah
Okay, I'll take the time but I'm a grown-ass man
I can't be fucking around in a Walmart in the toy section for too long
They start asking questions that I can't answer. You know what I mean?
Yeah, but you at least you have the excuse of having children because you can have those children with you when you do it
You know what I mean? No, because then I would have to get them stuff as well, you know
Fair that is that's how children work. If you get something for you, you have to get something for them
Which is why I don't take them to Walmart
It's just asking for trouble today, sorry, we have a lot to go over today
I was trying to make this one episode. We might have to split it into two. I'm not sure either way
We're gonna get to this city sergeant
We're gonna be covering one of the most popular conspiracy theories no demand and this story has fucking everything
It's got time travel
psychic abilities monsters
possible
child Manchurian candidates
Like just all these things that are just like
Manchurian candidates like just all the things that you could ever want in a story, you know, it's it's got
Are you trying to audition for like info wars?
No, but listen today
We will be heading to Long Island the most populated island in all of America to discuss to discuss the conspiracy
so big so vast and so important to the fabric of society that
Only like two dudes are talking about being a part of it. And today that conspiracy theory is
the Montauk project
Now the title of this episode makes sense
Are you familiar with it right very yes, okay
So most of you listening even if you've never heard about it before you may be like more familiar with the Montauk project than you think
Due to the popular like the popularity of the show that everyone has seen stranger things which takes like heavy influence from this theory
Fun fact the show was originally named Montauk and was supposed to be set on Long Island
But they decided to go a different direction for like narrative reasons
Like you can't really put Long Island in quarantine. So they chose like the small town. I mean you could I mean you could but
You wanted it wouldn't be as an island. Yeah, but it's I feel like it's better being a small town
No, I agree. I agree. I totally agree. So how familiar are you with the Montauk projects?
So I'll say this I am very familiar with one aspect of the project that caught I think
everyone's imagination well
Every weirdos imagination for quite a while so everyone listening
But I know there's more to it so I haven't I haven't dug deep so when I said very familiar, I mean very familiar with
You know the the creature, okay, so so which so that's that's the aspect of it
You're familiar with yeah. Yeah, what was found on that beach? Oh, it's very excited about oh, so so that the Montauk monster or whatever that fucking
Raccoon mage that has nothing to do with the Montauk project
That's not oh shit. I thought that was like a part of it
No, that's just called that because it was found in Montauk
Coincidence yeah, so the orange of the month the oh my god
So the origins of the Montauk project is essentially the continuation of two major
Top-secret government projects one
MK ultra everyone's favorite it was an actual real program conducted by the CIA to develop mind control techniques with
it so it quote-unquote officially was conducted between the years of
1953 and 1964 the other project that it's a continuation of can be traced back further all the way to
1943 with a little incident known as the Philadelphia experiment
Yes that old chestnut. Yeah, so I did I'm a part of a battleship
So so so I did a whole episode on the Philadelphia experiment
Like a year ago, but for those who haven't heard it. Here's a quick rundown of what that was
In 1943 at the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard the US Navy was testing out new technology that was supposed to make ships invisible to radar
Using technology that was either made by or heavily influenced by Nikola Tesla
They tested this new technology on on a destroyer escort named the USS Eldridge which is too close to eldritch for me
Considering what happens next?
I think that was part of the part of the naming. Yeah, well, I can make this scary
Right, they didn't even
Which all right, but anyways once the technology was fitted onto the ship
The crew was boarded and they didn't even bother like
Undocking and like going out to sea before they turned this bad boy on
It was said by witnesses that they saw the ship glow green then vanish
The ship apparently traveled through space and time popped up in new for norfolk, Virginia
Before disappearing and then reappearing again back in Philadelphia. So the mission was kind of a success kind of
The crew in the process of dematerializing and then rematerializing apparently like
The human body doesn't like that. So it got they got fused together
Like that one scene in Jumanji when like robin williams is like
In the floor, you know what i'm talking about. You remember that scene, right? Yeah. Yeah, right. So it's kind of like that
Needless to say the navy was like
Let's put a pin in this for now and we'll circle back
And that's sudden you are no longer on a boat you are now the boat
Yeah, and so that's what they did
So this whole conspiracy theory the montauk project is based mostly on the account of three people with
the like the diciest of credentials and credibility
First we have preston nichols. Yeah, he's a man who claimed to have recovered repressed memories of being an engineer on the montauk project
He claimed to have been a part of every major breakthrough of the project and then wrote a book about the subject sense
Yeah titled the montauk project
Experiments in time. The second person is peter moon. His real name is vincent barbaric
He wasn't a participant in the project, but he's a writer and a publisher who co-authored the montauk books with nichols
And he his his role pretty much was he provided much needed like punch-up to the story to kind of make it more palatable to readers
And then the third person is
Duncan cameron
This dude he is the most important person in the montauk project
And this dude he is all over this story like is like if this story were to have a main character
Duncan cameron
Is the main character if we were doing stranger things. He's 11. Does that make sense? Okay. Okay. Yeah
Now according to these three highly reputable men
Uh, the government wanted to continue these efforts reputable
But they wanted to take them to a far more advanced and what some would call more quote-unquote
ethically questionable levels
so
That tracks so in the 1970s they spruced up the old montauk air force station and repurposed it for these experiments now
You're probably asking yourselves. What exactly were these experiments? Well
I want to I want to thank you for asking because i'm going to tell you
Uh first he's like
freshmen in college
Showering with the lacrosse team experiments. What is happening?
Uh, well is we're gonna start out it
It started out pretty simple it started out with your classic like mind control research pretty much just a continuation of mk. Ultra
This consisted of studying the effects of trauma hypnosis and subliminal programming on their test subjects
And now you're probably wondering well who were these test subjects well
Uh, they were yes, I was dave you read my mind
Are you part of the montauk project? I mean you never know but
But they were allegedly abducted children that were programmed through severe psychological manipulation
To become sleeper agents and they were known as the montauk boys, which is a way too fun name
for
Children, it sounds like the rival band to like
Uh, what's his name? Uh, the jersey boys
Frankie valley. Oh, yeah, we're we're the montauk boys. Let's go bring it on. It's kind of like that
But also now we know what happened to jhomba nairam. Do you think she was a montauk boy? Yeah, they replaced they replaced her
With a with a fake body red herring naturally got it
Uh, and then that I don't even think that's the proper usage of that word, but i'm a little sick and just let it go
Uh, so they they they inserted the red herring and then took the child
Uh to make her avril lavigne
And then boom solved it. I don't think I don't think
I don't think we solved it. You know what you're doing
You're thinking about it and you shouldn't think about it because it's a conspiracy theory
True, so but I feel like no you're right. Dan Hattcoys involved. I'm sure yeah
So these experiments were focused on understanding and controlling human thought processes
Uh through like I said different techniques
Right on. Okay, soj cool
Uh hypnosis subliminal messaging and the worst was trauma-based conditioning where they would systematically break the subject psyche
to induce
Dissociative identities and once that was achieved those like fractured personalities were then able to be programmed with specific tasks that could
Then be like remotely triggered at any time. So basically like a real like man being a red sox fan in the 1980s
Yeah, pretty it's basically that it's
It's trauma. Yeah, it's it's trauma and it's forced but it's forced trauma
I don't know what they didn't like go into specifics like what they did to break this person's psyche
I can only imagine it was like
playing barbie girl on
Like a loudspeaker all like basically I imagine it being similar to guantanamo bay torture
that's how you break a cycle or like or like
Like making fan lifelong fans of a baseball team watch bill buckna miss the easiest catching history
Right between the legs, baby right between the legs, baby
Not to derail this but i'm gonna um, I met him
After we won the 2007 world series. He threw out the first pitch
And he was walking down the street in boston and I saw him and I was like holy shit. That's bill buckner
Did you give him the finger?
No, I ran up to him and I shook his hand. I felt terrible for the guy. It wasn't even his fault
He should have never been put in that game his knees were made of paper
anyway
So I ran up to him and shook his hand I was like, mr buckman, i'm so
Sorry about you know
The last 30 years of your life. Yeah
Uh super nice guy. Um, but man had this been like 10 years beforehand. I might have punched him directly in the groin so
baseball players aside
uh
As far as I know you're you're a real one as far as I know these experiments were very successful
Uh as they progressed through these mind control tests the project then began to focus their efforts simultaneously on psychic research
Uh to aid in their endeavors the scientists at montauk developed a device allegedly
It was based on reverse like engineered alien technology called the montauk chair
Now a majority of this is going to take place in this chair
So this this chair was said to be able to amplify a person's psychic ability
Uh, particularly those with like latent telepathic and telekine telekinetic abilities and this is where our boy
Duncan cameron comes in
He's the guy that I said is pretty much like the main
The main character of the main protagonist. Yeah
Now he claims he was the main subject of experiments using the montauk chair now while seated
He said he would be connected to a network of machines designed to boost his mental powers and was tasked with attempting several different telepathic and
Psychic abilities including communicating telepathically remote viewing and psychokinesis, which is basically just like trying to like manipulating things with your mind
It's straight it's 11 from major things
Uh now nothing burps like narragansett. Yeah, so
Uh, all of this was like like the government had hoped that this could eventually be used
Like like weaponized for like military use. Yeah, so so so far we have mind control, which is a staple in pretty much any
Government conspiracy. Uh, we have you can't have a government conspiracy without mind control. I agree
We got psychic abilities, which is like it's given uh, it's giving uh, it's giving very like
Uh men who stared at goats vibes. So so like right so far
It's pretty standard shit when it comes to like unfounded conspiracy theories
Um, but before we continue how you feeling is this like what you kind of thought was gonna be like the concept?
No, no, this is like a whole
I mean, there's a chair involved which
I'm guessing remote viewing probably buddy. You just wait
So with the team getting some like just absolute a plus results from this montauk chair
They decided to go full guy fietti and just like kick it up a notch take it into flavor town
Yeah, what they're doing now is they're going to go with uh time travel and temporal manipulation now
The researchers wanted to use the psychic amplification technology that they developed with the chair to create time tunnels
Which are essentially wormholes that could connect different points in space time. We all know what a wormhole is
Now they did this by manipulating the energy fields around the person in the chair and in doing so
They could open up portals to the past future and even different realities. So
At the center of this is our main man duncan
Now he claims he was heavily involved with these time travel missions because if you're going to be part of a conspiracy theory
You always have to be the main guy
now
Yeah, he claimed that uh
Uh, he claims he was heavily involved with these time travel missions. They called them missions. Uh, he would be sent through
Of course they did. Yeah, he'd be sent through these tunnels on missions to various periods in like history include like
Uh ancient egypt world war two. He even claimed that he visited the lost city of atlantis stating that he observed. Okay. Yeah
Uh
You stated a very real place that we all know exists
Yeah, uh, but well, I mean it does because he observed their advanced technology and sophisticated society
And that the atlanteans had a high level of knowledge and mystical practices which were facilitated by their advanced technology and apparent psychic abilities
And he was even able to interact with these inhabitants and experience all this firsthand
Psychically, of course. Yeah
Of course, uh, he also you're crazy. You're crazy not to believe this
He also claimed to have visited dystopian futures and alternate realities
Uh, but this is just one component of the time travel experiments
uh, they also toyed with the idea of going back in time and changing the outcome of historical events because
What could go wrong? Of course. Yeah, of course
There's no way you could screw that up. No way in the world. Yeah
Well, they did attempt this by sending what they call operatives
To different key moments in the past to try and influence the outcome, but they soon realized that this was just a fucking
Just a bad idea
Uh, they're right. Yeah, their attempts often resulted in the creation of alternate timelines in history
like it ended up like
So basically they go back in time
History ended up being like diverged like based on them fucking with time and these timeline deviations were
Caused reality to splinter and just caused a big headache to the researchers
So as far as I can tell they didn't do much of it
In these experiments and time traveler where theorists claim like the connection like to the philadelphia experiment come into play
They say that the scientists at montauk were trying to figure out like the time displacement that happened during the philadelphia
experiment
Ended up like expanding upon and like refining that technology used to try and perfect their time travel like technology
But I do have a new theory
So they were going back in time and then they were splintering reality, right into different timelines
I think the montauk project is the reason that we have the mandala the mandela effect
And why like there's no longer a cornucopia on the fruit of the loom logo. I think this is
Why it happened?
Wow, like the bernstein bears bernstein bears. Yep locks. You know what I mean berenstein. Yep. Come on
and and and and uh
Just kenny chesney, you know
What does that have to do with anything?
Just like there'd be it'd be great if there was a timeline where he didn't have to hear his music
There probably is there the montauk project probably created a reality where there's no kenny chesney
There's one where kenny chesney and um lee harvey oswald changed places
So lee harvey oswald is a very successful country musician and yeah all the songs are about the ussr
Gotcha
And kenny chesney shoot uh shoots kennedy
uh
Instead in favor of guns and trucks
I kind of fuck with that. I mean it's possible who knows right? But anyways by the 1980s
By the 1980s the montauk project
Look look, we all know marilyn minrow killed him from the grave
Now by the 1980s the bot talk project shifted gears and they're now focusing on some more
stranger things
See what I did there like that. Oh, yeah good tie-in, uh now these new experiments involved
Interdimensional travel and contact with extraterrestrial beings it was made possible when the time travel experiments evolved into creating portals
Not only through time but now into other dimensions now these new interdimensional tunnels
Allegedly allowed beings from other dimensions and alternate realities to enter through to our world
Some montauk project conspiracists claim that this ability to supercharge their technology to the point of being able to travel
Interdimensionally was due to the fact that the project was working very closely with aliens
Okay, specifically involved
I thought you were gonna say tollhouse cookies and I was gonna get really nervous
No, specifically involvement from the greys and the reptilians because no conspiracy theory is complete
If the reptilians aren't involved
Uh now these aliens allegedly had their own agenda and were working in collaboration with the u.s government in exchange for technology
Technological knowledge and this knowledge is what allowed the scientists at montauk to manipulate the fabric of space time
That all makes sense. You can
You know, no, not at all. None of that made any sense, but i'm following the right i'm i'm i'm following very closely
I understand what you're saying, but none of it makes any sense. Okay, so you all right?
I guess when I said does that make sense? I are you following so you get it you get it
I'm following the story. No problem
all right, because my brain is has already been ruined by conspiracy, so i'm
I'm a part of this whether I want to be or not. Yeah, and I just can't wait for us to get into the chair
We've been in the chair. The chair has been in play this whole time
Everything is I know but i'm saying like I want to physically sit in this chair. Oh, oh
I can't imagine I can't imagine it's comfortable
I would love if it was just like a lazy boy and it had like a colander that you put on your head with a bunch
Of wires coming out of it. So the way I see it is that so you've seen stranger things, right?
Yeah, you know when they go into like the deprivation tanks and like 11's like floating and like saltwater
I think like that's stranger things version of this
Okay, it's got to be something like that like a bunch of electrodes all over your body and then somehow it's able to like just
like
What's the word i'm looking for?
like enhance your ability to do psychic things
Yeah, but only but you're sitting in basically what I also assume is a lazy boy
Yeah, because like if you're in a deprivation chamber, it's gonna dull
It's gonna like, you know dull all your other senses. Yeah
And so but in I have a question you bring
In in your visioning of this lazy boy
Does yours also have that thing from like the early 2000s where it went over the arm?
And like one end of it was like a weighted like cloth football like design thing
It had pockets in it to put like the remote and stuff
Yes, okay, naturally
Where else am I gonna put my cheetos exactly now sarge we have reached
What has been dubbed?
the final experiment
Are you ready for the final experiment?
You you you might not uh
You might not want to use that the final expo. Oh, you know what? I'm thinking of something else
I'm thinking of the final solution. Yep, different different
All together. Yeah now my brain went in the wrong direction there and i'm glad I reeled it back in you have a cold I get it
Yeah, but but also it is it is valid to assume that most conspiracy theories especially involving
Reptilians it does circle back to nazis most times this time most of the time
I don't I as far as I could tell there's no nazi scientists working on this
Maybe but anyways the uh yet
There is time travel after all no the uh
Sure, they did say they went back to world war two. I don't know who they were recruiting
I just picture a lightning strike and this is german in the room. Where am I?
It's it's well, hold on. So the final experiment
Is the culmination of pretty much everything the project had been building to
Uh in august of 1983 our boy duncan back at it again
Uh has now proven himself to be possibly the most powerful psychic and not just in like the montauk project
But in the world like he went to atlantis and uh, he was chosen to be the head of this experiment
It said that the goal was to be the head of this experiment
Um, it said that the goal was to push the montauk project research to like its absolute limit
Uh, some theories claim the goal was to send multiple individuals on a mission further into the future than ever done before to gather
Their information what information I don't fucking know. It was never stated
Uh others claim the objective was to open a large but stable time tunnel
That could be used like for regular travel through like different points in history
So they could be going back and gathering information or bringing people from the past to the present. Who knows sure doesn't really matter
Uh what the reason was because that shit went sideways real fucking quick now that makes sense
according to our boy preston nichols the one who had uh,
Recessed memories like brought forward
And was also an integral part apparently of all the shit that's going on
Uh our boy duncan he was seated in the montauk chair connected to the projects like alien psychic equipment
shit, uh as you and uh as you reach deep into his subconscious he maybe by accident
summoned a
Terrifying and horrific creature into existence as now lovingly referred to as the beast from the id
uh
Descriptions of the beast this uh, they describe it as a massive terrifying interdimensional creature
But his appearance varies depending on like which story you go with so some say that it's a monstrous
Shadowy figure with no defined form kind of like the smoke monster from lost
Uh other and others say it's taylor swift, uh, and well, no others. Well actually this description might
Others other accounts say it was a large grotesque animal or humanoid type deal
Uh, but even though there is debate taylor swift even though there's debate as to what this thing looked like
There are two things about this thing that are true one
This creature was a hundred percent from cameron's subconscious and two
It was not stoked to be outside of his said subconscious
Uh, what's this thing materialize? Yeah, it just started fucking shit up like almost immediately
He was it was like rampaging through the underground facility destroying equipment
full-on facilities
Uh brutally killing like any personnel that was unlucky enough to be in its way
And as the beast rampaged its way through the facility destroying like all the machinery and technology
Pretty much all the stuff that brought it into existence
It caused it caused a system-wide breakdown of like the entire project
This this thing wasn't called the final experiment because they wanted it to be it's because it had to be
Does that make sense? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we need what we you know, we need is we need this on a t-shirt
What which one the montauk creature?
What does it look like we don't know?
View listeners send in your submissions. We'll pick one or two
Yeah, new new art contest send us your depiction of what you think the montauk the beast of the id is
What we'll call it is the beast of the id and then in parentheses
probably
Or like artist rendition
artist rendition colorized 1970
Colorized 1970 no the time was only in black and white
Now the time tunnel that was being manipulated during the experiment became unstable causing fluctuations in the fabric of space time
And this led
To the inevitable emergency shutdown of the entire project because if you're fucking with space time and it becomes unstable
I think it's a good time to just like
Call it quits at this point
Yeah, knock it off
Now this process included the complete destruction of any and all technology used during the project including the montauk chair
So unfortunately sarge
You'll never be able to sit in the montauk chair. Sorry for your loss, but i'm just gonna make a new one
I'm gonna make a new one
Uh, the time tunnel was permanently closed for obvious reasons
Uh, and parts of the base itself were completely demolished with other sections being filled with concrete so that no one could ever
Like gain access to the underground facility
Uh now following the events of the of the final experiment and the subsequent emergency
Emergency shutdown the government went full cover-up mode
Uh any surviving participants had their memories erased or sometimes worse. I'm sure you can guess what the worst option was
uh
Just hitting the head with a shovel pretty much. Yeah
The charge went out of the memory eraser get me the shovel
Oh, the uh, the base was abandoned and sealed off
Any surviving technology or like continuing experiments that were going on removed to numerous other locations to continue under different mate and
under different names
Uh, and with that sarge we're gonna end like this episode on the montauk project
But don't worry because next week we will continue talking about weird sci-fi conspiracy theories with an episode on the montauk project sister
experiment
Known as project pegasus
Oh
What a glorious ass name too. It's so good now that story has everything
time travel to mars barack obama
Offer in health care to interdimensional illegal aliens. This is a young barack obama back when he went by the name barry
Uh, oh even better. Yeah, even better. Yeah. Yeah, uh, but yeah, so there you have it
That is the montauk project
How how do you feel about this?
This is a ride, right? This was a ride. Yeah more
This is like these were like my favorite conspiracy theories when I was younger
like time travel and
Because they're the only ones that only ones that matter and I feel like this doesn't hurt anyone
I feel like most conspiracy theories nowadays are just like it's mostly just it all just goes back to like
blood libel
Yeah, being anti-semitic or hurting the parents of children who died in school shootings. Like there's no good. Absolutely
No good conspiracy theories anymore this to me along with the philadelphia experiment
i'm not gonna say it's wholesome but like
I'm sure i'm also i'm sure there's deeper meaning to all of this and i'm sure it does it does somehow get anti-semitic somewhere
But I didn't look into that so i'm gonna play ignorance and just say it doesn't yeah
Yeah, I mean the only thing that might touch on the anti-semitism are the reptilians
Because of their ties to the illuminati and then you get to the Rothschilds
I mean, it's like six degrees of separation of racism. Yeah, eventually they had all roads lead back to
Jewish brothers and sisters, but that's that's the downside like I love conspiracy theories
This is one of my favorite ones
I think it's really good and like I said, even if you've never heard of this before you're probably more familiar with it than
And you think you are because of the show. Yeah, I think it's like this is basically like it's this is stranger things and it's awesome
Yeah, there was a lot of familiarity that that came out of it. I
as I especially love
the like
the creature
Yeah, like just a creature of this man's mind his subconscious just came to life
and uh destroyed a building now they didn't like go into
To detail on what they did with the creature and I tried to look so hard like I don't know if they like
Just sealed it in there or like once they closed the time portal
Did it disappear or was like once they unhooked him?
Did it go away because it was a product of his like subconscious?
You see it's funny that you say that because I was thinking that i'm like
Oh, are we gonna touch on the whereabouts because I was gonna ask you like, okay
What happened to the creature? Did they just cement it underground?
Yeah, I mean they and then when you said we were gonna talk about another thing
I was like, oh he'll get to it in the next episode. No project
Isn't like
It's not technically part of the montauk project and it's not like even I don't I call it the sister project
It's not really I just really want to continue doing these fun conspiracy theory things
but it's just wait until we get to underground bases project pegasus is one of those things where it's like
there are so many similarities that they're always talked about within the same like
Breath, you know what I mean? Same way though, like the the philadelphia experiment isn't technically the precursor to this if anything mk
Ultra is way more the precursor to this but it does tie in and project pegasus
The montauk project ties into project pegasus
Yeah, and I love that there was a connection to mk ultra because that's the other thing that always shows up in modern conspiracy theories
Yeah, I mean but it the the fucked up thing is that that was proven to be real and that is bonkers
Yeah, like my favorite part of mk ultra is uh project climax. Oh
No, he he's my least favorite. I had one of those this morning
Gotta have a little operation climax later on let me tell you I got an a plus on that project there was dioramas and everything
Um, yeah, I don't want to know anymore
Yeah, I don't want to know anymore it's bumping up yuck. Sorry to bump you guys out
um, but yeah, like
Look up look up operation claw our project see there. I think it's operation climax or midnight climax. That's it operation midnight climax
Oh my god, if I google any of these so fucked up. I feel like i'm gonna be like on a fucking list
Or it's gonna bring me to websites that I don't want to be at
That's if you google that you'll get to a website where it shows your own sex tapes like you didn't even know they were recorded
Well, it's like deep wet like dark web type shit
I love that just accesses your webcam and imposes your face on anyone. Yeah, but um
Yeah, so how you feeling so far? I mean there's more that I want I hate to say this but there's more to this story like
like fucking duncan he suffered like
quote unquote
PTSD and traumatic
Because he was part of the project quote unquote
Well, yeah, I mean if you go back and forth to the future and then the past like it's bound to mess with your brain a little
bit
Yeah, but let's be honest just getting used to the new money would weird you out
Like imagine imagine going from a time that only used cash
And then they're like here now you're gonna use your watch he shows up to atlantis it has to exchange his bills for like seashells
He's got to use wampum like fucking native american
Oh
Yeah
At least wampum was pretty
I would I would assume that like the montauk well, no because it doesn't make sense because he wasn't physically there
He was sitting in the chair. So that means he's like
he like astral projected to
atlantis
And that means that he's see that's what i'm trying to figure out is you said you said that they traveled back in time
But they used the chair. So
Was it like a quantum leap situation where they just inhabited someone else's body?
I don't know dude because it's all
Made up. Well, god damn it. I need answers. The only thing I think is that it is it is all made up
He like ash astral projected there and then it might yeah had to have been like but the way
I also see it kind of like how so there's a theory that like the men in black
Are like interdimensional beings but like that they
They're always dressed for the decade that they're in but not like the exact time period
Does that make sense like yeah, well, I see I had heard that it was like decades previous
Yeah, so maybe but or maybe it's like the century whatever but yeah, it's a century. I think so maybe like
The montauk project had a costume department and they had like all these different currencies and they were able to like when he ash
A rejected he was wearing like I don't know what atlanteans wear fish scale and fucking like shit denim shorts
And roller blades. I'm also saying this like at this point atlantis is underwater at this point
Like I feel like you must have gone there when it was not underwater
Right, but you know what I mean? Like I don't know. Yeah, just just a perfect
It my image of atlantis is everyone is wearing ray-bands
All the men have mustaches and mullets
And and then they're all wearing
They have mustaches and mullets and and everyone wears denim shorts and roller blades
That's atlantis the perfect like they had it all figured out. Yeah, as soon as you land all you hear is is
is uh jump
By van halen. I feel like you just described p town though
No, I just described lol
They do not lol does not have it figured out but let's be honest
It's
It's like it's like lol's fashion sense with p town's progressiveness
Okay. Yes, that isn't yeah, I thought that would work
All right, i'd go
All right. Yeah, so we'll continue on with this fucking these weird conspiracy theories next episode project pegasus
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I'm so excited. It's gonna get weird back when back when barry was ripping cools like you read about
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Yeah
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Oh, that'd be really funny though. If everyone we sent in was like this is bullshit
Fuck. Yeah, this is pure lies for my listeners
Clearly this person's having a delusional moment
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