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Hey everyone real quick before the episode begins just want you know that we had a little technical difficulties at the very beginning of the

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Episode so for like the first ten minutes or so sarja's audios a little warbly and wank not wanky janky

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But it does get better. I promise just muscle through it. It's not that bad, but with that enjoy the episode

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Hey everybody welcome back to another episode of cryptic cocktail party show we have a few drinks share a few laughs take a dive into the

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Unknown I'm your host Dave and as always I am joined by the handsomely

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Handsome boy sarja destroyer what's going on man? Hey? Oh, what's going on everybody? I'm sage. How are you?

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Asking me or the audience

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Who I was listening okay, whoever wants to be a part of my life right now. Yeah, I really got to stop trying to ad-lib those intros

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I just got to start saying as joy does always by Sarge because every time I do I tongue twist it up. I get fucked up

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But anyways to answer your question even though it wasn't directed specifically to me. I'm doing fine. How are you bud?

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I'm I'm I'm sick. Yeah, I've got a bit of the cold

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Oh, yeah, so not sick like in a skateboarding way, but like sick is in like a health way

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I'm rad is in a skateboarding way, but I am sick is in a

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Physical health way mentally. I'm pretty much all there

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For the most part okay there we go all right

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Yeah, for the most part like you know I could be better you said that was such confidence

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I was kind of questioned against maybe it's the cold getting to your head the way I look at it is it like I

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Know what's wrong with me? You know and that's that's half the battle

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Yeah, according to GI Joe knowing is half the battle

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I don't know what the other half is because I don't ever say but it is what it is

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I was the worst part is I was actually really excited. I had a good good start to the week

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Lego has just released their D&D minifigure line. Oh

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Yeah, that ass. Yeah, they got mind flares and tea flings and all kinds of cool shit and

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Was very excited. I found a way to get all of them

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Because even though they do blind bags

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If you scan the little QR code on the bottom through like program on Jay's brick blog

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I'm getting real. These are some real deep Lego cuts right now. Just you know

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You can find all which ones in which box and that's what I did

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I cheated the system. I'm sorry Lego, but I don't have time to fuck around and buy like 30 of these things

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You cheated the system the same way that people when they go to like a Star Wars land at Disney

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They cheat the system to try and find the black hyper crystals

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You did the exact same thing and I know that's exactly what I did and I appreciate that if

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Because I would do the exact same thing because fuck that look if I if I was like a ten-year-old kid

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That was just using my paper route money or something to do this. Yeah

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Okay, I'll take the time but I'm a grown-ass man

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I can't be fucking around in a Walmart in the toy section for too long

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They start asking questions that I can't answer. You know what I mean?

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Yeah, but you at least you have the excuse of having children because you can have those children with you when you do it

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You know what I mean? No, because then I would have to get them stuff as well, you know

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Fair that is that's how children work. If you get something for you, you have to get something for them

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Which is why I don't take them to Walmart

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It's just asking for trouble today, sorry, we have a lot to go over today

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I was trying to make this one episode. We might have to split it into two. I'm not sure either way

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We're gonna get to this city sergeant

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We're gonna be covering one of the most popular conspiracy theories no demand and this story has fucking everything

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It's got time travel

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psychic abilities monsters

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possible

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child Manchurian candidates

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Like just all these things that are just like

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Manchurian candidates like just all the things that you could ever want in a story, you know, it's it's got

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Are you trying to audition for like info wars?

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No, but listen today

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We will be heading to Long Island the most populated island in all of America to discuss to discuss the conspiracy

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so big so vast and so important to the fabric of society that

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Only like two dudes are talking about being a part of it. And today that conspiracy theory is

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the Montauk project

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Now the title of this episode makes sense

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Are you familiar with it right very yes, okay

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So most of you listening even if you've never heard about it before you may be like more familiar with the Montauk project than you think

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Due to the popular like the popularity of the show that everyone has seen stranger things which takes like heavy influence from this theory

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Fun fact the show was originally named Montauk and was supposed to be set on Long Island

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But they decided to go a different direction for like narrative reasons

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Like you can't really put Long Island in quarantine. So they chose like the small town. I mean you could I mean you could but

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You wanted it wouldn't be as an island. Yeah, but it's I feel like it's better being a small town

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No, I agree. I agree. I totally agree. So how familiar are you with the Montauk projects?

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So I'll say this I am very familiar with one aspect of the project that caught I think

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everyone's imagination well

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Every weirdos imagination for quite a while so everyone listening

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But I know there's more to it so I haven't I haven't dug deep so when I said very familiar, I mean very familiar with

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You know the the creature, okay, so so which so that's that's the aspect of it

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You're familiar with yeah. Yeah, what was found on that beach? Oh, it's very excited about oh, so so that the Montauk monster or whatever that fucking

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Raccoon mage that has nothing to do with the Montauk project

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That's not oh shit. I thought that was like a part of it

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No, that's just called that because it was found in Montauk

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Coincidence yeah, so the orange of the month the oh my god

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So the origins of the Montauk project is essentially the continuation of two major

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Top-secret government projects one

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MK ultra everyone's favorite it was an actual real program conducted by the CIA to develop mind control techniques with

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it so it quote-unquote officially was conducted between the years of

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1953 and 1964 the other project that it's a continuation of can be traced back further all the way to

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1943 with a little incident known as the Philadelphia experiment

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Yes that old chestnut. Yeah, so I did I'm a part of a battleship

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So so so I did a whole episode on the Philadelphia experiment

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Like a year ago, but for those who haven't heard it. Here's a quick rundown of what that was

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In 1943 at the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard the US Navy was testing out new technology that was supposed to make ships invisible to radar

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Using technology that was either made by or heavily influenced by Nikola Tesla

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They tested this new technology on on a destroyer escort named the USS Eldridge which is too close to eldritch for me

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Considering what happens next?

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I think that was part of the part of the naming. Yeah, well, I can make this scary

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Right, they didn't even

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Which all right, but anyways once the technology was fitted onto the ship

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The crew was boarded and they didn't even bother like

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Undocking and like going out to sea before they turned this bad boy on

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It was said by witnesses that they saw the ship glow green then vanish

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The ship apparently traveled through space and time popped up in new for norfolk, Virginia

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Before disappearing and then reappearing again back in Philadelphia. So the mission was kind of a success kind of

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The crew in the process of dematerializing and then rematerializing apparently like

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The human body doesn't like that. So it got they got fused together

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Like that one scene in Jumanji when like robin williams is like

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In the floor, you know what i'm talking about. You remember that scene, right? Yeah. Yeah, right. So it's kind of like that

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Needless to say the navy was like

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Let's put a pin in this for now and we'll circle back

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And that's sudden you are no longer on a boat you are now the boat

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Yeah, and so that's what they did

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So this whole conspiracy theory the montauk project is based mostly on the account of three people with

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the like the diciest of credentials and credibility

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First we have preston nichols. Yeah, he's a man who claimed to have recovered repressed memories of being an engineer on the montauk project

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He claimed to have been a part of every major breakthrough of the project and then wrote a book about the subject sense

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Yeah titled the montauk project

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Experiments in time. The second person is peter moon. His real name is vincent barbaric

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He wasn't a participant in the project, but he's a writer and a publisher who co-authored the montauk books with nichols

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And he his his role pretty much was he provided much needed like punch-up to the story to kind of make it more palatable to readers

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And then the third person is

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Duncan cameron

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This dude he is the most important person in the montauk project

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And this dude he is all over this story like is like if this story were to have a main character

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Duncan cameron

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Is the main character if we were doing stranger things. He's 11. Does that make sense? Okay. Okay. Yeah

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Now according to these three highly reputable men

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Uh, the government wanted to continue these efforts reputable

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But they wanted to take them to a far more advanced and what some would call more quote-unquote

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ethically questionable levels

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That tracks so in the 1970s they spruced up the old montauk air force station and repurposed it for these experiments now

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You're probably asking yourselves. What exactly were these experiments? Well

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I want to I want to thank you for asking because i'm going to tell you

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Uh first he's like

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freshmen in college

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Showering with the lacrosse team experiments. What is happening?

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Uh, well is we're gonna start out it

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It started out pretty simple it started out with your classic like mind control research pretty much just a continuation of mk. Ultra

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This consisted of studying the effects of trauma hypnosis and subliminal programming on their test subjects

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And now you're probably wondering well who were these test subjects well

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Uh, they were yes, I was dave you read my mind

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Are you part of the montauk project? I mean you never know but

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But they were allegedly abducted children that were programmed through severe psychological manipulation

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To become sleeper agents and they were known as the montauk boys, which is a way too fun name

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Children, it sounds like the rival band to like

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Uh, what's his name? Uh, the jersey boys

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Frankie valley. Oh, yeah, we're we're the montauk boys. Let's go bring it on. It's kind of like that

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But also now we know what happened to jhomba nairam. Do you think she was a montauk boy? Yeah, they replaced they replaced her

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With a with a fake body red herring naturally got it

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Uh, and then that I don't even think that's the proper usage of that word, but i'm a little sick and just let it go

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Uh, so they they they inserted the red herring and then took the child

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Uh to make her avril lavigne

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And then boom solved it. I don't think I don't think

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I don't think we solved it. You know what you're doing

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You're thinking about it and you shouldn't think about it because it's a conspiracy theory

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True, so but I feel like no you're right. Dan Hattcoys involved. I'm sure yeah

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So these experiments were focused on understanding and controlling human thought processes

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Uh through like I said different techniques

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Right on. Okay, soj cool

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Uh hypnosis subliminal messaging and the worst was trauma-based conditioning where they would systematically break the subject psyche

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Dissociative identities and once that was achieved those like fractured personalities were then able to be programmed with specific tasks that could

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Then be like remotely triggered at any time. So basically like a real like man being a red sox fan in the 1980s

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Yeah, pretty it's basically that it's

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It's trauma. Yeah, it's it's trauma and it's forced but it's forced trauma

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I don't know what they didn't like go into specifics like what they did to break this person's psyche

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I can only imagine it was like

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playing barbie girl on

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Like a loudspeaker all like basically I imagine it being similar to guantanamo bay torture

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that's how you break a cycle or like or like

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Like making fan lifelong fans of a baseball team watch bill buckna miss the easiest catching history

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Right between the legs, baby right between the legs, baby

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Not to derail this but i'm gonna um, I met him

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After we won the 2007 world series. He threw out the first pitch

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And he was walking down the street in boston and I saw him and I was like holy shit. That's bill buckner

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Did you give him the finger?

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No, I ran up to him and I shook his hand. I felt terrible for the guy. It wasn't even his fault

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He should have never been put in that game his knees were made of paper

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So I ran up to him and shook his hand I was like, mr buckman, i'm so

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Sorry about you know

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The last 30 years of your life. Yeah

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Uh super nice guy. Um, but man had this been like 10 years beforehand. I might have punched him directly in the groin so

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baseball players aside

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As far as I know you're you're a real one as far as I know these experiments were very successful

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Uh as they progressed through these mind control tests the project then began to focus their efforts simultaneously on psychic research

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Uh to aid in their endeavors the scientists at montauk developed a device allegedly

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It was based on reverse like engineered alien technology called the montauk chair

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Now a majority of this is going to take place in this chair

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So this this chair was said to be able to amplify a person's psychic ability

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Uh, particularly those with like latent telepathic and telekine telekinetic abilities and this is where our boy

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Duncan cameron comes in

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He's the guy that I said is pretty much like the main

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The main character of the main protagonist. Yeah

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Now he claims he was the main subject of experiments using the montauk chair now while seated

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He said he would be connected to a network of machines designed to boost his mental powers and was tasked with attempting several different telepathic and

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Psychic abilities including communicating telepathically remote viewing and psychokinesis, which is basically just like trying to like manipulating things with your mind

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It's straight it's 11 from major things

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Uh now nothing burps like narragansett. Yeah, so

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Uh, all of this was like like the government had hoped that this could eventually be used

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Like like weaponized for like military use. Yeah, so so so far we have mind control, which is a staple in pretty much any

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Government conspiracy. Uh, we have you can't have a government conspiracy without mind control. I agree

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We got psychic abilities, which is like it's given uh, it's giving uh, it's giving very like

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Uh men who stared at goats vibes. So so like right so far

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It's pretty standard shit when it comes to like unfounded conspiracy theories

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Um, but before we continue how you feeling is this like what you kind of thought was gonna be like the concept?

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No, no, this is like a whole

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I mean, there's a chair involved which

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I'm guessing remote viewing probably buddy. You just wait

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So with the team getting some like just absolute a plus results from this montauk chair

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They decided to go full guy fietti and just like kick it up a notch take it into flavor town

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Yeah, what they're doing now is they're going to go with uh time travel and temporal manipulation now

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The researchers wanted to use the psychic amplification technology that they developed with the chair to create time tunnels

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Which are essentially wormholes that could connect different points in space time. We all know what a wormhole is

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Now they did this by manipulating the energy fields around the person in the chair and in doing so

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They could open up portals to the past future and even different realities. So

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At the center of this is our main man duncan

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Now he claims he was heavily involved with these time travel missions because if you're going to be part of a conspiracy theory

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You always have to be the main guy

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Yeah, he claimed that uh

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Uh, he claims he was heavily involved with these time travel missions. They called them missions. Uh, he would be sent through

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Of course they did. Yeah, he'd be sent through these tunnels on missions to various periods in like history include like

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Uh ancient egypt world war two. He even claimed that he visited the lost city of atlantis stating that he observed. Okay. Yeah

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You stated a very real place that we all know exists

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And that the atlanteans had a high level of knowledge and mystical practices which were facilitated by their advanced technology and apparent psychic abilities

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And he was even able to interact with these inhabitants and experience all this firsthand

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Psychically, of course. Yeah

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Of course, uh, he also you're crazy. You're crazy not to believe this

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He also claimed to have visited dystopian futures and alternate realities

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Uh, but this is just one component of the time travel experiments

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uh, they also toyed with the idea of going back in time and changing the outcome of historical events because

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What could go wrong? Of course. Yeah, of course

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There's no way you could screw that up. No way in the world. Yeah

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Well, they did attempt this by sending what they call operatives

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To different key moments in the past to try and influence the outcome, but they soon realized that this was just a fucking

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Just a bad idea

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Uh, they're right. Yeah, their attempts often resulted in the creation of alternate timelines in history

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like it ended up like

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So basically they go back in time

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History ended up being like diverged like based on them fucking with time and these timeline deviations were

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Caused reality to splinter and just caused a big headache to the researchers

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So as far as I can tell they didn't do much of it

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In these experiments and time traveler where theorists claim like the connection like to the philadelphia experiment come into play

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They say that the scientists at montauk were trying to figure out like the time displacement that happened during the philadelphia

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experiment

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Ended up like expanding upon and like refining that technology used to try and perfect their time travel like technology

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But I do have a new theory

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So they were going back in time and then they were splintering reality, right into different timelines

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I think the montauk project is the reason that we have the mandala the mandela effect

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And why like there's no longer a cornucopia on the fruit of the loom logo. I think this is

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Why it happened?

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Wow, like the bernstein bears bernstein bears. Yep locks. You know what I mean berenstein. Yep. Come on

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and and and and uh

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Just kenny chesney, you know

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What does that have to do with anything?

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Just like there'd be it'd be great if there was a timeline where he didn't have to hear his music

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There probably is there the montauk project probably created a reality where there's no kenny chesney

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There's one where kenny chesney and um lee harvey oswald changed places

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So lee harvey oswald is a very successful country musician and yeah all the songs are about the ussr

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Gotcha

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And kenny chesney shoot uh shoots kennedy

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Instead in favor of guns and trucks

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I kind of fuck with that. I mean it's possible who knows right? But anyways by the 1980s

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By the 1980s the montauk project

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Look look, we all know marilyn minrow killed him from the grave

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Now by the 1980s the bot talk project shifted gears and they're now focusing on some more

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stranger things

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See what I did there like that. Oh, yeah good tie-in, uh now these new experiments involved

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Interdimensional travel and contact with extraterrestrial beings it was made possible when the time travel experiments evolved into creating portals

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Not only through time but now into other dimensions now these new interdimensional tunnels

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Allegedly allowed beings from other dimensions and alternate realities to enter through to our world

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Some montauk project conspiracists claim that this ability to supercharge their technology to the point of being able to travel

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Interdimensionally was due to the fact that the project was working very closely with aliens

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Okay, specifically involved

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I thought you were gonna say tollhouse cookies and I was gonna get really nervous

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No, specifically involvement from the greys and the reptilians because no conspiracy theory is complete

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If the reptilians aren't involved

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Uh now these aliens allegedly had their own agenda and were working in collaboration with the u.s government in exchange for technology

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Technological knowledge and this knowledge is what allowed the scientists at montauk to manipulate the fabric of space time

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That all makes sense. You can

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You know, no, not at all. None of that made any sense, but i'm following the right i'm i'm i'm following very closely

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I understand what you're saying, but none of it makes any sense. Okay, so you all right?

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I guess when I said does that make sense? I are you following so you get it you get it

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I'm following the story. No problem

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all right, because my brain is has already been ruined by conspiracy, so i'm

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I'm a part of this whether I want to be or not. Yeah, and I just can't wait for us to get into the chair

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We've been in the chair. The chair has been in play this whole time

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Everything is I know but i'm saying like I want to physically sit in this chair. Oh, oh

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I can't imagine I can't imagine it's comfortable

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I would love if it was just like a lazy boy and it had like a colander that you put on your head with a bunch

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Of wires coming out of it. So the way I see it is that so you've seen stranger things, right?

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Yeah, you know when they go into like the deprivation tanks and like 11's like floating and like saltwater

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I think like that's stranger things version of this

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Okay, it's got to be something like that like a bunch of electrodes all over your body and then somehow it's able to like just

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like

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What's the word i'm looking for?

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like enhance your ability to do psychic things

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Yeah, but only but you're sitting in basically what I also assume is a lazy boy

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Yeah, because like if you're in a deprivation chamber, it's gonna dull

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It's gonna like, you know dull all your other senses. Yeah

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And so but in I have a question you bring

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In in your visioning of this lazy boy

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Does yours also have that thing from like the early 2000s where it went over the arm?

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And like one end of it was like a weighted like cloth football like design thing

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It had pockets in it to put like the remote and stuff

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Yes, okay, naturally

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Where else am I gonna put my cheetos exactly now sarge we have reached

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What has been dubbed?

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the final experiment

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Are you ready for the final experiment?

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You you you might not uh

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You might not want to use that the final expo. Oh, you know what? I'm thinking of something else

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I'm thinking of the final solution. Yep, different different

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All together. Yeah now my brain went in the wrong direction there and i'm glad I reeled it back in you have a cold I get it

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Yeah, but but also it is it is valid to assume that most conspiracy theories especially involving

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Reptilians it does circle back to nazis most times this time most of the time

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I don't I as far as I could tell there's no nazi scientists working on this

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Maybe but anyways the uh yet

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There is time travel after all no the uh

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Sure, they did say they went back to world war two. I don't know who they were recruiting

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I just picture a lightning strike and this is german in the room. Where am I?

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It's it's well, hold on. So the final experiment

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Is the culmination of pretty much everything the project had been building to

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Uh in august of 1983 our boy duncan back at it again

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Uh has now proven himself to be possibly the most powerful psychic and not just in like the montauk project

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But in the world like he went to atlantis and uh, he was chosen to be the head of this experiment

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It said that the goal was to be the head of this experiment

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Um, it said that the goal was to push the montauk project research to like its absolute limit

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Uh, some theories claim the goal was to send multiple individuals on a mission further into the future than ever done before to gather

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Their information what information I don't fucking know. It was never stated

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Uh others claim the objective was to open a large but stable time tunnel

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That could be used like for regular travel through like different points in history

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So they could be going back and gathering information or bringing people from the past to the present. Who knows sure doesn't really matter

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Uh what the reason was because that shit went sideways real fucking quick now that makes sense

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according to our boy preston nichols the one who had uh,

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Recessed memories like brought forward

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And was also an integral part apparently of all the shit that's going on

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Uh our boy duncan he was seated in the montauk chair connected to the projects like alien psychic equipment

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shit, uh as you and uh as you reach deep into his subconscious he maybe by accident

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summoned a

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Terrifying and horrific creature into existence as now lovingly referred to as the beast from the id

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Descriptions of the beast this uh, they describe it as a massive terrifying interdimensional creature

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But his appearance varies depending on like which story you go with so some say that it's a monstrous

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Shadowy figure with no defined form kind of like the smoke monster from lost

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Uh other and others say it's taylor swift, uh, and well, no others. Well actually this description might

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Others other accounts say it was a large grotesque animal or humanoid type deal

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Uh, but even though there is debate taylor swift even though there's debate as to what this thing looked like

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There are two things about this thing that are true one

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This creature was a hundred percent from cameron's subconscious and two

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It was not stoked to be outside of his said subconscious

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Uh, what's this thing materialize? Yeah, it just started fucking shit up like almost immediately

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He was it was like rampaging through the underground facility destroying equipment

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full-on facilities

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Uh brutally killing like any personnel that was unlucky enough to be in its way

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And as the beast rampaged its way through the facility destroying like all the machinery and technology

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Pretty much all the stuff that brought it into existence

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It caused it caused a system-wide breakdown of like the entire project

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This this thing wasn't called the final experiment because they wanted it to be it's because it had to be

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Does that make sense? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we need what we you know, we need is we need this on a t-shirt

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What which one the montauk creature?

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What does it look like we don't know?

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View listeners send in your submissions. We'll pick one or two

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Yeah, new new art contest send us your depiction of what you think the montauk the beast of the id is

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What we'll call it is the beast of the id and then in parentheses

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probably

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Or like artist rendition

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artist rendition colorized 1970

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Colorized 1970 no the time was only in black and white

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Now the time tunnel that was being manipulated during the experiment became unstable causing fluctuations in the fabric of space time

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And this led

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To the inevitable emergency shutdown of the entire project because if you're fucking with space time and it becomes unstable

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I think it's a good time to just like

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Call it quits at this point

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Yeah, knock it off

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Now this process included the complete destruction of any and all technology used during the project including the montauk chair

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So unfortunately sarge

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You'll never be able to sit in the montauk chair. Sorry for your loss, but i'm just gonna make a new one

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I'm gonna make a new one

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Uh, the time tunnel was permanently closed for obvious reasons

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Uh, and parts of the base itself were completely demolished with other sections being filled with concrete so that no one could ever

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Like gain access to the underground facility

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Uh now following the events of the of the final experiment and the subsequent emergency

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Emergency shutdown the government went full cover-up mode

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Uh any surviving participants had their memories erased or sometimes worse. I'm sure you can guess what the worst option was

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Just hitting the head with a shovel pretty much. Yeah

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The charge went out of the memory eraser get me the shovel

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Oh, the uh, the base was abandoned and sealed off

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Any surviving technology or like continuing experiments that were going on removed to numerous other locations to continue under different mate and

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under different names

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Uh, and with that sarge we're gonna end like this episode on the montauk project

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But don't worry because next week we will continue talking about weird sci-fi conspiracy theories with an episode on the montauk project sister

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experiment

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Known as project pegasus

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Oh

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What a glorious ass name too. It's so good now that story has everything

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time travel to mars barack obama

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Offer in health care to interdimensional illegal aliens. This is a young barack obama back when he went by the name barry

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Uh, oh even better. Yeah, even better. Yeah. Yeah, uh, but yeah, so there you have it

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That is the montauk project

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How how do you feel about this?

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This is a ride, right? This was a ride. Yeah more

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This is like these were like my favorite conspiracy theories when I was younger

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like time travel and

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Because they're the only ones that only ones that matter and I feel like this doesn't hurt anyone

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I feel like most conspiracy theories nowadays are just like it's mostly just it all just goes back to like

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blood libel

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Yeah, being anti-semitic or hurting the parents of children who died in school shootings. Like there's no good. Absolutely

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No good conspiracy theories anymore this to me along with the philadelphia experiment

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i'm not gonna say it's wholesome but like

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I'm sure i'm also i'm sure there's deeper meaning to all of this and i'm sure it does it does somehow get anti-semitic somewhere

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But I didn't look into that so i'm gonna play ignorance and just say it doesn't yeah

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Yeah, I mean the only thing that might touch on the anti-semitism are the reptilians

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Because of their ties to the illuminati and then you get to the Rothschilds

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I mean, it's like six degrees of separation of racism. Yeah, eventually they had all roads lead back to

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Jewish brothers and sisters, but that's that's the downside like I love conspiracy theories

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This is one of my favorite ones

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I think it's really good and like I said, even if you've never heard of this before you're probably more familiar with it than

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And you think you are because of the show. Yeah, I think it's like this is basically like it's this is stranger things and it's awesome

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Yeah, there was a lot of familiarity that that came out of it. I

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as I especially love

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the like

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the creature

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Yeah, like just a creature of this man's mind his subconscious just came to life

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and uh destroyed a building now they didn't like go into

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To detail on what they did with the creature and I tried to look so hard like I don't know if they like

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Just sealed it in there or like once they closed the time portal

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Did it disappear or was like once they unhooked him?

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Did it go away because it was a product of his like subconscious?

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You see it's funny that you say that because I was thinking that i'm like

433
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Oh, are we gonna touch on the whereabouts because I was gonna ask you like, okay

434
00:33:25,300 --> 00:33:27,620
What happened to the creature? Did they just cement it underground?

435
00:33:27,700 --> 00:33:30,580
Yeah, I mean they and then when you said we were gonna talk about another thing

436
00:33:30,580 --> 00:33:33,940
I was like, oh he'll get to it in the next episode. No project

437
00:33:35,540 --> 00:33:37,540
Isn't like

438
00:33:37,540 --> 00:33:43,380
It's not technically part of the montauk project and it's not like even I don't I call it the sister project

439
00:33:43,780 --> 00:33:48,020
It's not really I just really want to continue doing these fun conspiracy theory things

440
00:33:48,740 --> 00:33:53,140
but it's just wait until we get to underground bases project pegasus is one of those things where it's like

441
00:33:53,860 --> 00:33:57,300
there are so many similarities that they're always talked about within the same like

442
00:33:57,300 --> 00:34:04,500
Breath, you know what I mean? Same way though, like the the philadelphia experiment isn't technically the precursor to this if anything mk

443
00:34:04,500 --> 00:34:09,400
Ultra is way more the precursor to this but it does tie in and project pegasus

444
00:34:10,180 --> 00:34:12,660
The montauk project ties into project pegasus

445
00:34:13,300 --> 00:34:19,300
Yeah, and I love that there was a connection to mk ultra because that's the other thing that always shows up in modern conspiracy theories

446
00:34:19,460 --> 00:34:24,820
Yeah, I mean but it the the fucked up thing is that that was proven to be real and that is bonkers

447
00:34:24,820 --> 00:34:30,420
Yeah, like my favorite part of mk ultra is uh project climax. Oh

448
00:34:31,380 --> 00:34:34,660
No, he he's my least favorite. I had one of those this morning

449
00:34:39,780 --> 00:34:45,160
Gotta have a little operation climax later on let me tell you I got an a plus on that project there was dioramas and everything

450
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:49,320
Um, yeah, I don't want to know anymore

451
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:55,160
Yeah, I don't want to know anymore it's bumping up yuck. Sorry to bump you guys out

452
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,440
um, but yeah, like

453
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:06,920
Look up look up operation claw our project see there. I think it's operation climax or midnight climax. That's it operation midnight climax

454
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:12,360
Oh my god, if I google any of these so fucked up. I feel like i'm gonna be like on a fucking list

455
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,240
Or it's gonna bring me to websites that I don't want to be at

456
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:23,400
That's if you google that you'll get to a website where it shows your own sex tapes like you didn't even know they were recorded

457
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,040
Well, it's like deep wet like dark web type shit

458
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:33,640
I love that just accesses your webcam and imposes your face on anyone. Yeah, but um

459
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:40,200
Yeah, so how you feeling so far? I mean there's more that I want I hate to say this but there's more to this story like

460
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,240
like fucking duncan he suffered like

461
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,120
quote unquote

462
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,120
PTSD and traumatic

463
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,400
Because he was part of the project quote unquote

464
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:58,120
Well, yeah, I mean if you go back and forth to the future and then the past like it's bound to mess with your brain a little

465
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,400
bit

466
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:04,040
Yeah, but let's be honest just getting used to the new money would weird you out

467
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:08,440
Like imagine imagine going from a time that only used cash

468
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:15,720
And then they're like here now you're gonna use your watch he shows up to atlantis it has to exchange his bills for like seashells

469
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,560
He's got to use wampum like fucking native american

470
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,320
Oh

471
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:28,520
Yeah

472
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,520
At least wampum was pretty

473
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:35,880
I would I would assume that like the montauk well, no because it doesn't make sense because he wasn't physically there

474
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,280
He was sitting in the chair. So that means he's like

475
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,320
he like astral projected to

476
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,240
atlantis

477
00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:48,440
And that means that he's see that's what i'm trying to figure out is you said you said that they traveled back in time

478
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,440
But they used the chair. So

479
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,280
Was it like a quantum leap situation where they just inhabited someone else's body?

480
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,920
I don't know dude because it's all

481
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:02,760
Made up. Well, god damn it. I need answers. The only thing I think is that it is it is all made up

482
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:07,400
He like ash astral projected there and then it might yeah had to have been like but the way

483
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:12,200
I also see it kind of like how so there's a theory that like the men in black

484
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,680
Are like interdimensional beings but like that they

485
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:22,440
They're always dressed for the decade that they're in but not like the exact time period

486
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:28,040
Does that make sense like yeah, well, I see I had heard that it was like decades previous

487
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:34,200
Yeah, so maybe but or maybe it's like the century whatever but yeah, it's a century. I think so maybe like

488
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:40,680
The montauk project had a costume department and they had like all these different currencies and they were able to like when he ash

489
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:47,720
A rejected he was wearing like I don't know what atlanteans wear fish scale and fucking like shit denim shorts

490
00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:53,080
And roller blades. I'm also saying this like at this point atlantis is underwater at this point

491
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,760
Like I feel like you must have gone there when it was not underwater

492
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:03,400
Right, but you know what I mean? Like I don't know. Yeah, just just a perfect

493
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:08,360
It my image of atlantis is everyone is wearing ray-bands

494
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,640
All the men have mustaches and mullets

495
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,760
And and then they're all wearing

496
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:20,120
They have mustaches and mullets and and everyone wears denim shorts and roller blades

497
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:27,160
That's atlantis the perfect like they had it all figured out. Yeah, as soon as you land all you hear is is

498
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,640
is uh jump

499
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,000
By van halen. I feel like you just described p town though

500
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,520
No, I just described lol

501
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,880
They do not lol does not have it figured out but let's be honest

502
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,880
It's

503
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:52,220
It's like it's like lol's fashion sense with p town's progressiveness

504
00:38:53,240 --> 00:38:56,200
Okay. Yes, that isn't yeah, I thought that would work

505
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,600
All right, i'd go

506
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:03,960
All right. Yeah, so we'll continue on with this fucking these weird conspiracy theories next episode project pegasus

507
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,840
Get ready to hear some fucking mind-boggling shit about mars

508
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:12,200
I'm so excited. It's gonna get weird back when back when barry was ripping cools like you read about

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525
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It's a little bit. Yeah, I mean if you give us a huge downer one, we're gonna have to make jokes somewhere

526
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Yeah

527
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,320
Or just negate the story all together and be like this is bullshit just pretend it happened. Yeah

528
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,960
Here's another lie from one of my listeners what a great endorsement of the listener segment

529
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,920
Oh, that'd be really funny though. If everyone we sent in was like this is bullshit

530
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,920
Fuck. Yeah, this is pure lies for my listeners

531
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,800
Clearly this person's having a delusional moment

532
00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:52,520
Anyway, anyway, sorry, do you want that to happen to you?

533
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Uh, thank you for listening. Sorry, i'm sick

534
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