1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:27,400 Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of Cryptic Cocktail Party, a show where we 2 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,360 have a few drinks, share a few laughs, take a dive into the unknown. I'm your host Dave, 3 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,200 joined as always by Sarge the Destroyer. Say hello. 4 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:40,400 Hello. What's up? We also have a very special guest today. This week we are joined by Matt 5 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:46,080 Shang and for those of you who don't know, he's cohost of the Moth Boys podcast. He also 6 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,040 along with his cohost Mike and Jake coauthored the book of the White Monsters of Sherman, 7 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,320 New York. And they also organized the Cryptid Festivals, Cryptid Bash, as well as Veggie 8 00:00:54,320 --> 00:01:00,320 Manday along with Danner from Conjured Us Designs. And he also has a new book coming out soon 9 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:07,520 called Wonders of the Void, a study on cryptozoology. That's basically it. Did I miss anything? 10 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:14,400 That is good. A way to make us seem like lazy shitbags, Matt. Come on, I'm more than that. 11 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:23,440 Jesus Christ. Why don't you take a break, bro? Save some books for the rest of us to 12 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:32,280 write. Papazari playing his third book. And I said plantain because it's going to be a 13 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:39,680 Astro Bonny book. So alien plants I'm tackling next. Astro Bonny? That is awesome. Yeah, 14 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:44,680 it's fucking sick, dude. I feel bad boosting your ego this early in the show because now 15 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:49,400 I feel like this is how it's going to play out for the rest of it. I don't know if I 16 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,720 can handle that. I'm a middle child. I got ignored my entire life. So this is this is 17 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:59,000 perfect. I'm loving it. All right. How are you doing? But speaking of Cryptid Bash, I 18 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:05,080 know that just happened what? Last Saturday, the 17th. How is number four? So how was it? 19 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:14,320 Was it was good. It was really good. All the vendors did awesome. We had around 2000 people 20 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:22,320 throughout the day. Yeah, we had a bunch. All the all the best vendors and artists. Yeah, 21 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:27,840 we had we had, you know, you had a cryptic Clyde was there. My boy, he's been a guest 22 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:33,400 on the show a few times. Obviously, Conjuredust was there. I think it was a Bedlam there. 23 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:38,680 I think he was. Yeah, like pretty much everyone was there. Yeah, everyone was there. And we 24 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:46,480 had a good time. It rained the last hour. But it was funny. Like everyone, everyone 25 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:52,080 was already like was was like everyone tore down their tents once it started like started 26 00:02:52,080 --> 00:03:00,160 raining. Daner was like the only one up and he had he had like he had like 15 attendees 27 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:06,280 around his table underneath this small tent. And he was like telling like a grand story 28 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:11,320 about cryptids and stuff, because that's that's his thing. Right. Is like he dresses up as 29 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:19,480 like a camp counselor and he's like a scout. Yeah, like a scout master. Right. And yeah. 30 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:24,560 And then he just tells stories like people he's he I think next Cryptid Bash, I would 31 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:33,280 love to have him do like like a like a cryptid campfire tale thing where I was just going 32 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:37,960 to say like sit around a campfire or something like that. Right. And we can make like a fake 33 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:43,840 campfire that kind of moves up and down like this and kind of glows and have people like 34 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:51,560 stand around this fake fire while he tells stories of cryptids. He's he's very good. 35 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:56,360 Daner would be really good for like if there was ever like he's like he could do like a 36 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:03,620 YouTube children's show. Absolutely. Like absolutely. Because I met him once. It was at Squonka Palooza 37 00:04:03,620 --> 00:04:09,480 last year I think. Oh how was that by the way? Yeah. He last year was awesome. I had 38 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,800 a blast. That's where I like I met a bunch of people like I met Daner. I met Cryptid 39 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:17,800 Clyde. I met Bedla. Like I met everyone. They're all super like I still talk to those people 40 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:22,480 like to this day more so Cryptid Clyde because he his vibe is just everything I ever wanted 41 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:30,480 in a person. Yeah. He's brilliant. Yeah. But no it was it was really good. There was the 42 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:36,880 so me Clyde was across from me like our booths and then to the side there was like a anime 43 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:41,200 I don't want to say studio like artist guy. And I don't think he understood the assignment 44 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:48,160 of a family friendly family friendly event because he set up these huge boom boxes and 45 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:56,320 just started playing Wu Tang like as loud as humanly possible. And it was and just drawing 46 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:01,240 giant squatch sticks. I was going to say is there like some weird hentai. You said anime 47 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:07,080 and I was like was there like hentai? I immediately it was it was more so the fact that there 48 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:12,200 was small children around and Wu Tang Clan and old dirty bastard was playing at full 49 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:19,760 volume. I remember I went in the opposite direction. I was thinking like veiny tentacles. 50 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:29,040 No it wasn't. No it wasn't that. Liberal parents are the liberal agenda doesn't want their 51 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:34,060 children to toughen up at a young age. But I think labor laws child labor laws are destroying 52 00:05:34,060 --> 00:05:41,160 this country and I hate free or I hate people restricting freedom. So it's all part of you 53 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:45,520 know what? Go woke or go broke. You're right. That's on me. I should I should be thinking 54 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:53,240 outside the box. Yeah. Cool. That's that's that's great. I want to go I want to attend. 55 00:05:53,240 --> 00:06:02,640 It's just it's always so close. And Lisa is just such she's such a kind human and she 56 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:07,160 really is one of the nicest people. We had her on the show a while back. But unfortunately 57 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:15,840 we have you know Cryptid Bash and Squonkapalooza are right next to each other. Yeah. So it's 58 00:06:15,840 --> 00:06:21,880 we never end up going. But I think this year I'm going to make it a point to do that. This 59 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:28,500 year has just been crazy. I'm even all over the place this year. Yeah. I'm doing books 60 00:06:28,500 --> 00:06:36,200 and school and marriage. My fiance and I were planning a wedding and so awesome being a 61 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:41,320 congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. Being a chicken dad and a turkey dad and doing a 62 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:47,760 farm and it's it's it's a lot. But I love it. That is a lot. Holy cow. Do you like do 63 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:53,640 you try to sleep at all? No no no I hate sleep. I mean I have epilepsy too so it definitely 64 00:06:53,640 --> 00:07:01,920 helps that I don't sleep at all. No no famously famously the best way to cure epilepsy is 65 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:07,440 to stay awake and be stressed. Yeah totally. Yeah. Yeah. Exhaust your brain. Yeah. Yeah 66 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,160 of course. All right guys today we're going to do something a little bit different. First 67 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:17,880 of all I appreciate you coming on. Love the show. Thank you for having me. Oh you were 68 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:26,720 talking to forget it. I love my show. Thank you for having me. Yeah I love you. No Matt 69 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:32,000 clearly you know more about cryptids and the paranormal than I do which probably means 70 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:39,120 that you for sure know more about it than Sarge. So if if anyone is I mean that's not 71 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:44,440 really that's not really saying much. Yeah. So if anyone tuning in for the first time 72 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:50,440 the way the show normally goes that I will find a story and I will read it to Sarge because 73 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,760 he gets a general reaction to it because he genuinely has no idea what I'm talking about. 74 00:07:54,760 --> 00:08:01,300 So finding a story that like neither of you have heard of is proved to be a bit difficult. 75 00:08:01,300 --> 00:08:05,820 So what I did is I compiled three different stories that I'm going to share with you two 76 00:08:05,820 --> 00:08:10,920 lovely gentlemen. All of them are one off cryptid sightings. All of them like as weird 77 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:16,760 and obscure as I could find some in the US some overseas and hopefully neither of you 78 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:23,800 are familiar with these stories. But there's a catch. Sarge might know what it is. One 79 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:29,720 of these stories is a hundred percent made up and it is up to you guys to figure out 80 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:34,920 which one it is by the end of the episode. Does that sound good. I'm so ready. All right. 81 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:41,960 Yeah. I think so. There's only one rule and that rule is please don't Google the details 82 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:48,760 while I'm telling the story because you know what just for you I'm not going to do this. 83 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:53,080 I'm not going to Google it but I would totally. Yeah I know. I know. That's why I don't trust 84 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:59,280 either of you folks. I love the easy way out. You know what I mean. Like I'm a I'm a I'm 85 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,480 a follower. What's the point of having Google. What's the point of having Google. And now 86 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:08,440 they're doing a Google. You don't even have to click on a link. I just kind of pops up 87 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:13,880 and you know your phone just like I'm pretty sure what he's saying is bullshit. All right. 88 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:19,480 So that's the only rule. Keep your guesses till the end. You guys are able to you know 89 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,880 you can speculate as we go along. But at the end at the end at the end of the episode I'll 90 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:28,760 give you guys time to I know discuss amongst yourselves or if you want to choose different 91 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:34,760 ones it's up to you. OK. OK. Are you guys ready to dive in. Ready. Let's do it. OK. 92 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:39,960 So our first story takes place in beautiful Lima Peru in the year of our Lord. Nineteen 93 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:45,700 ninety five. It was after dark on the evening of August 29th when two men named Antonio 94 00:09:45,700 --> 00:09:52,360 Chavez Badoia and Julio L. de Romana were driving down the Pan American motorway with 95 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,920 the windows rolled down listening to Steppenwolf's born to be wild on full blast of course. 96 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:04,720 Allegedly now when suddenly weird detail to put in suddenly the driver swerved to avoid 97 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:09,920 something in the middle of the road. The men confused as to what it possibly could be stopped 98 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:15,000 to get a better look. Standing there in the middle of the road was what the men could 99 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:22,720 only describe as an alien Christmas tree. They said it was black ish quote unquote strange 100 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:28,360 being a Martian and that it resembled some sort of bush or shrub said about two and a 101 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:33,580 half feet tall and had a single shiny golden eye in the middle of what they could only 102 00:10:33,580 --> 00:10:38,920 assume was the head. They also said that it was orbited by what the men described as quote 103 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:44,140 gold and silver strips almost like garland or tinsel which is how the alien Christmas 104 00:10:44,140 --> 00:10:49,480 tree kind of description came about normally. It's to be expected. Yeah. So at this point 105 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,880 it's kind of cute like a Pokemon almost I feel like it's like it has that kind of vibe 106 00:10:53,880 --> 00:11:02,160 to it. That is until they noticed that there was kind of like a like a twinkle to it. Come 107 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,960 on. It was like Christmas tree lights. And then upon closer inspection they realized 108 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:12,120 that those twinkles were actually smaller golden shining eyes just like all over the 109 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:17,440 things. So I had one big guy and then like a bunch of little eyes like all over. So it's 110 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:24,000 like an eldritch horror kind of thing. Yeah. Tonight it's all bad. It's it's like something 111 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:28,480 you see in bloodborne. I feel like like one of those like imagine like imagine the amount 112 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:33,960 of money this thing must spend on by zine. Yeah. That's the first question I thought 113 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:47,400 of to just buckets. I care. Buckets. No. Like how does it get it. How does it get an appointment 114 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,840 with the ophthalmologist. Like how do you do the eye chart. It's like a hundred times 115 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:56,160 you got to do it. Don't worry about it. These are the details we need to know though. These 116 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:01,800 are the things that I need to know about. So the other thing too is that with all these 117 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:06,840 stories I only get I'm only going to give you the important details. I left out any 118 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:12,280 like like other deeds. So you're getting just the bare bones of these stories. I didn't 119 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,440 want to make it too easy. Sure. Just the tip just to see how it feels. You got it. So here 120 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:21,840 we got to we got two dudes driving down the highway. Sure. Come across a tree. Tree has 121 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:26,480 an eye tree has garland orbiting it. Don't know what that is. And then they'd realize 122 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:32,080 it has a bunch of smaller eyes. Fucked up. Disgusting. Now the men were only able to 123 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:37,800 observe the creature for about like a minute tops before a saucer shaped UFO swooped in 124 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:42,840 like out of nowhere and was just like hovering above their truck. In this instance the guys 125 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:47,720 were like fuck this and got out of there as quick as possible. They don't know if the 126 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:53,360 tree like got on the ship if the tree like was abducted by the ship or even if the two 127 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:58,240 were connected in any way. But I mean like come on you can't see an alien Christmas tree 128 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:03,080 in the middle of the road and assume that it's not associated with the right. Right. 129 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:07,920 Right. Yeah. No I mean these aren't these aren't like two random events. Yeah. They 130 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:13,400 have to be connected to each other. Fucking wild. So I want to live in the world where 131 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:20,880 they are two random events that happen concurrently. But I mean that happens. Like there was like 132 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:26,000 yeah like in Pennsylvania there was like was like the UFO Bigfoot like a bunch of UFOs 133 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,440 and Bigfoot were seen like all around one time like even like a bat squatch I guess 134 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,520 at one point was seen in Pennsylvania during the flap thing. Like so it could happen but 135 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:41,520 I don't think this is that scenario. Hopping off that that Bigfoot the PA UFO Bigfoot flap 136 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:47,920 there was actually a story of the beach six landing in Presque Isle in Erie Pennsylvania 137 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:57,960 and there was a UFO that landed on a beach and or like in this tree line in a beach and 138 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:03,640 later on a Bigfoot was seen coming out of the woods like a hairy ape and it like attacked 139 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:09,600 this car filled with teenagers making out or whatever whatever they were doing. I think 140 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:15,400 I do know that story. Yeah. And I almost covered it one time. Super cool. And it's it's literally 141 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:20,360 like 35 minutes away from me. I don't want to like derail the conversation at all but 142 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:29,480 I I'm gonna I feel like there is definitely there is definitely a connection to the to 143 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:35,200 the UFO the tree. No no no to the to the UFO. Well yes I hope there is otherwise you put 144 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:40,240 that in there for no reason. But no between Bigfoot and aliens I feel like there's a connection. 145 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:44,920 I've heard a couple of theories about it and there could be a connection. You're speaking 146 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:49,200 my language. Long time listeners of the show know that I am not the biggest proponent of 147 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:56,280 Bigfoot. Yeah I'm not 100 percent convinced. But I don't think it's if it does if Bigfoot 148 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:03,600 does exist I don't think it's alien. I want to believe that it is a just a terrestrial 149 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:11,160 like it's just here. And OK because I feel like the reason why I'm going to derail this 150 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,960 real quick is that we have derailed. Yeah. The reason why I welcome America. The reason 151 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:21,760 why I think that is because I feel like the invention of the theories of like it's an 152 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:27,760 alien or it's interdimensional is because no one can come with like conclusive evidence 153 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:32,800 of it. So like well you can't find conclusive evidence because it's interdimensional. The 154 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,120 bodies go back to wherever dimension they're from or the aliens come and pick them up. 155 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,560 Like yeah I think I feel like those are just excuses as to why no one's found conclusive 156 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:45,320 evidence. It's the same thing that people do with religion. Is that like a shitty thing. 157 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,200 I know it was interdimensional. That's what it is. It's got his interdimensional. That's 158 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:53,080 just how I feel. Jesus was abducted by aliens. I feel like they just it's like the moving 159 00:15:53,080 --> 00:16:00,280 of the goalposts to be like well we haven't found any bodies because they transport back 160 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:05,160 to wherever they're from or the aliens abduct that re-abduct the bodies. So that's why there's 161 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:11,680 no bones or whatever. The thing is we don't have any conclusive evidence of Bigfoot but 162 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,960 I like that your stopping point is like no there's no way there could be aliens. There 163 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:22,440 could definitely be a large ape man that people have been talking about for a while that we 164 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:28,600 can't ever find and the only photos we have of it are blurry but hold on. No spaceships 165 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:40,440 involved. So you're on the side of all the like dress up in military garb with an AR-15 166 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:45,120 and like go hunting Bigfoot. No no I do not. I don't want. They're that kind of person 167 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,840 where they're like it's flesh and blood. It couldn't be anything else. What are you talking 168 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:53,760 about? No I'm just saying I don't I don't I want it to be flesh and blood. Dave I'm 169 00:16:53,760 --> 00:17:02,240 going to cancel you right now. I'm not saying. All right how many tiki torches do you own? 170 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:08,320 Don't lie to me. No okay but for real though. You know what sucks is that I just shaved 171 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:16,200 my head today so now all these fucking things. Oh no. Oh god now I'm going to get cancelled. 172 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:25,520 Evidence with evidence these stories you know people seeing Bigfoot in association with 173 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:35,240 UFOs and like glowing orbs and all this paranormal stuff. I think I think truly scientific minded 174 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:42,260 people would be open to all suggestions until. I'm not saying I don't see I am open but here's 175 00:17:42,260 --> 00:17:47,040 the thing I don't really believe in Bigfoot so I'm not going to entertain any of them. 176 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:53,000 That's fine. No I don't. All this or any of this could be fake whatever. Can we move on 177 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:57,360 to the next story. Yes Christmas tree. Sorry. Yeah sorry sorry. This is my fault. This is 178 00:17:57,360 --> 00:17:59,920 my fault. Christmas tree is over moving on to the next story. So the next story brings 179 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:06,680 us to the great state of Maine but like the shitty part of Maine. It's like northern Maine 180 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:12,440 where like the it's a Canadian border where the towns don't have names. It's like designation 181 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:18,880 B five seven dash two like you know what I mean. Like four people live there and it's 182 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,960 terrifying to even venture into. But specifically we're going to we're going to be going to 183 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:28,280 the DeBooley Public Reserve land which is this. Oh I love it. Yeah it's described as 184 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:32,800 literally every other national park so I'm not going to bother you with the details. 185 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,800 Like have you ever been in the woods. Yeah it's got trees. There you go. Yes. Like that's 186 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:43,840 OK. Anyway it's a no. This story goes that on the evening of October 23rd 2016 Forest 187 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:50,040 Ranger Sarah McClain awesome name was heading into the woods for a routine patrol for the 188 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:54,480 evening as she moved deeper into the forest she claimed she began to feel what she described 189 00:18:54,480 --> 00:19:00,000 as quote an unusual pressure in the atmosphere. Simultaneously she also started to hear a 190 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:07,520 faint high pitching pitch pitch. Oh my God. A high pitched buzzing sound that sounded 191 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,000 as if it was like coming from all directions. She thought she initially thought it was like 192 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:16,640 a like an insect and I think like a cicada kind of sound. But it was October. I don't 193 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:21,680 think you want me to do an impression of that sound for all the listeners. Pretty please. 194 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:35,320 Yes. I have never wanted anything more in my life. Oh you changed pitch. That was good. 195 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:39,560 Well done. That was a good sound. I like that there were multiple notes in that song. Yeah. 196 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:47,200 That's the vocal range of an angel my friend. You're already more musically capable than 197 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:54,840 machine. Yeah. She she later recalled the sound as quote it wasn't like anything I'd 198 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:59,840 ever heard before. It wasn't just a sound. It felt like it was inside me vibrating through 199 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:07,720 my bones and the deep in my sex tape deeper. I went into the forest. The louder it got. 200 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,680 Now what I have to say to that is just don't go deeper into the woods Sarah. Like why the 201 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,480 fuck would you hear this vibrating your bones and be like you know I'm just going to keep 202 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:20,200 going. I feel like 90 percent of our episodes could be avoided if people just saw something 203 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:26,320 weird and just left. Yeah. I would suck. Oh it's weird here. I don't want to be here anymore. 204 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:31,600 Now anyways she she said the sensation she felt was hard to describe like the buzzing 205 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:36,600 seemed to distort the air around her which I guess would make the pressure changing make 206 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:41,640 sense. Then I got sonic vibrator. Yeah. Then out of the corner of her eye she got just 207 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:46,360 a hint of movement. She turned to see what all the hubbub was about and that's when she 208 00:20:46,360 --> 00:20:52,160 saw whatever the fuck this thing is standing there. She saw a figure that was at least 209 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:58,240 seven feet tall with an emaciated body. Its skin was pale and tight with strange patches 210 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:03,320 of like different tones and textures almost as if it was like stitched together from different 211 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:09,600 like skin sources. Its face was completely featureless like Slender Man but this is way 212 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:15,980 fucking gnarlier. So like Jared Kushner. Yeah. But but even without having. Oh no I meant 213 00:21:15,980 --> 00:21:20,080 expressionless expression. I was thinking especially like there's no life in his face. 214 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:24,560 That was my mistake. But even with that without having eyes she said that it kind of like 215 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:29,240 turned toward her as if it was like looking at her. But the worst part about all this 216 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:33,600 besides the fucked up features is like the way it moved. She said it didn't walk. It 217 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:40,320 seemed to flicker in and out of sight like lots of herky jerky movements and like Sarah 218 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:46,320 is just standing there frozen in fear because yeah dude like obviously. So it's like every 219 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:52,520 late 90s early 2000s horror movies. They just like sped up the frame. Jacob's Ladder. House 220 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,880 on Haunted Hill when all when all the nurses were fucking. Yeah the shaky thing. Yeah it 221 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:02,120 works and it creeps me out. Yeah. She said that it quote it was like watching something 222 00:22:02,120 --> 00:22:06,480 glitch in and out of existence. One second it was there and the next it would disappear 223 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:11,040 only to reappear a few feet closer. But it never felt like it was walking towards me. 224 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:17,440 It was just shifting and quote. Well luckily Sarah wasn't paralyzed with fear for long. 225 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:22,160 She finally regained her. I wrote composure but I don't want to say that because I feel 226 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:26,160 like you're not composed no matter what you do in the scenario. But you know not at all. 227 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:31,100 But she was finally able to like get the fuck out of there and just like hoofed it back 228 00:22:31,100 --> 00:22:36,040 down the trail as fast as she fucking could. Luckily for her she said that buzzing sound 229 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:41,760 faded as she ran. So I don't think like it was following her. But she did say that quote 230 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:46,180 I've never run that fast in my life. I didn't stop until I was at my truck and even then 231 00:22:46,180 --> 00:22:50,080 I felt like it was still watching me. So as far as I know as far as I know this is the 232 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,840 only sighting of this thing that I could find and I found a couple of stories written about 233 00:22:53,840 --> 00:23:05,240 it and the name of it is either severed kin or flesh skein flesh scheme no skein s k i 234 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:11,320 e n e i n. So somebody so somebody who doesn't have a mastery of English named this. Well 235 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:16,780 it sounds like fucking like Norwegian. Yeah. I don't know. Anyways that's all there is 236 00:23:16,780 --> 00:23:20,280 for that one. So how are we feeling about this story. We've got two stories so far. 237 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,000 We've got the Christmas tree the flesh skein or the severed kin whatever you fucking want 238 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,840 to call it. It's up to you dealer's choice. How are we feeling so far about Christmas 239 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:34,320 tree and flesh guy. Yeah both. There is in general how's life going. I like it. I think 240 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:40,440 the second one. Yeah I like the Christmas tree one. The second one is really cool. Really. 241 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:48,640 Yeah. The the the the the second one does sound like a horror movie. So I'm still I'm 242 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:53,880 kind of like right. OK. This might be some creepy pasta stuff. I have a I have a quick 243 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:59,240 question. When did this. Do you know what year this happened or when it was posted or 244 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:05,320 whatever. The story happened in October on October 23rd 2016. I wonder. And it was in 245 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:12,120 the the bully public reserve land in northern Maine which I looked up. It is a real place. 246 00:24:12,120 --> 00:24:17,200 That place does. I wonder. I wonder if she's experienced anything since then because I 247 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:23,160 was thinking like what if it's like the it follows thing and like it slowly kind of follows 248 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:28,840 you is kind of like slowly following you for an eternity. It follows is such a good horror 249 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,680 movie too. So good. I know I said I'm not going to give any more details than what I 250 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:37,920 put in the stories but there was like other things where I said like over time she did 251 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:43,640 kind of like like stuck in her mind kind of thing like and she had to go to like therapy 252 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:50,200 with like all this. Like I think at one point she said she saw a priest to kind of try like 253 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:55,080 yeah. And like was was the thing I like about that story though is that Maine isn't really 254 00:24:55,080 --> 00:25:01,160 known for a lot of like one off cryptic sightings. I feel like there's not a shit ton of them 255 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,520 there. Like you've got like the Spectre moose of Maine which is really just a ghost moose 256 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,280 and then well the woods devils New Hampshire. But like you know there's not like a lot of 257 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:14,000 shit in Maine. So that's why I like that one and us me and Sarge being both from New England 258 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:19,840 I was like fuck it. This is getting in right. All right. Are you guys ready for our last 259 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:25,000 story. I'm ready. I need to know it. Well do you guys have theory so far. Yeah I think 260 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:31,480 which one. So let's go. So like theories as in you said one was fake. All right. Do you 261 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:37,440 want. Yeah. Do you want that or do you want that after the third one. I'll give you after 262 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:42,120 the third one. But I like yeah you know it was we'll read the last story then we'll go. 263 00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:47,080 OK yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. All right. So our last story it's a bit of a shorter one 264 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:53,960 but fun nonetheless I think so also named my sex tape. Nice. I was just going to say that 265 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:59,400 he gets me he gets so I get you. I got you for this for this story. We're traveling to 266 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:05,480 Thailand. We're on the morning of August 31st 2005 10 residents of a small farming village 267 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:10,520 about four hundred and eighty eight miles north of Bangkok saw what they described as 268 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:16,480 a small yellow humanoid figure hovering above the rice and lemongrass fields that at the 269 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:22,520 time were owned by a man named I'm going to butcher this tea kit Kang Boon close enough. 270 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:28,200 I'm sure it's like yeah the first witness and my favorite witness of this whole story 271 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:35,720 was a 51 year old man named so Wang bun ratchet who I'm just going to refer to as bun moving 272 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:41,720 forward because I like it. That's cool. That's a lot. So yeah. So bun and I love him for 273 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:47,120 this and we see this a lot with cryptic stories. He prefaced his retelling of the encounter 274 00:26:47,120 --> 00:26:52,680 with the reassurance that he was in fact 100 percent completely sober at the time of his 275 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:58,480 encounter which I would hope so because he said that he witnessed this thing around 830 276 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:04,600 in the morning. You're not you're not doing good. You know if you're. Yeah. The worst 277 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,960 part is though you're not doing good if you're the kind of person who has to tell people 278 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:18,000 you were sober at 830 in the morning. I'm not drunk this time. He was he was biking 279 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:24,240 past the field when he spotted what he thought was an automated scarecrow in the field. Upon 280 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,880 looking closer he realized that this thing was indeed not the latest in AV and deterrent 281 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:41,520 systems but advanced an actual living creature. He's got automated scarecrow money. I like 282 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:46,880 how most people know so little about Thailand that he just had to be like oh it's it's four 283 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:54,000 thousand miles away from Bangkok because it's the only place anybody knows. Yeah. Yeah. 284 00:27:54,000 --> 00:28:01,360 The hovering quote unquote scarecrow looked over at bun gave him a knowing nod and then 285 00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:06,840 stared right at him with large dark blood red eyes. The witness said it looked at him 286 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:12,400 with an imploring gaze as if it was in need of some sort of assistance. But my dude was 287 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:17,560 like fuck that shit and rolled off to tell the other villagers what he was seeing. Let's 288 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:22,280 go fuck this dude up. Let's get our pitchforks. Come back with some pitchforks. Let's clean 289 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:28,960 this up. Dude's like please I need help. I'm bleeding bad. And he's like yeah no don't 290 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:35,280 worry about it. But upon upon upon hearing like upon the other villagers hearing what 291 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:41,560 he had seen several villagers including Bun's friend so why. Bun Yalik henceforth known 292 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:46,480 as Boon because I don't want to say those things over and over again. Race to the field 293 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:51,720 to catch a glimpse. Boon later told reporters that the entity was about 70 centimeters high 294 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:57,520 or roughly two foot three inches in American. It had yellow skin a flat chest and a very 295 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:04,120 small mouth. It had a big old bald head with big red eyes and large ears and no. No last 296 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:10,400 which is I'm getting very turned on right now. No. Boon said that him and the other 297 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:16,680 villagers watched this floating like Dr. Seuss character come to life just kind of like wander 298 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,680 about the field like he was just like this thing was just like floating around out of 299 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:25,920 care in the world just fucking hanging out for like about an hour. Now I don't know what 300 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:31,020 they did after. I assume they were just like well we got jobs. He's not hurting anyone. 301 00:29:31,020 --> 00:29:34,640 Let's just let him be. This is just how we live now. And they all just went about their 302 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:42,600 day. The entity was last seen at around 1030 a.m. by a villager named Kamab in Simon who 303 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:48,200 said he watched a quote unquote floating child just kind of hang out then stretched like 304 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:53,800 a piece of saltwater taffy turned jet black and then take off into the sky like a rocket. 305 00:29:53,800 --> 00:30:01,280 What the fuck. There's a bunch more to the story like like how once the news broke hundreds 306 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:06,720 of people a day came to the village and like fucked up all of their roads and stopped through 307 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:11,680 all of their fields and basically just like ruined everyone's livelihoods just to kind 308 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:16,080 of get like a glimpse at this thing that was already gone. But we can get into that later. 309 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,640 But anyways there you have it. That is the Scarecrow of Thailand and that is our third 310 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:26,760 story. So now it is up to you two to decide which one of these three stories did I 100 311 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:31,200 percent make up. I have to say it's the second one. Same. 312 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:36,480 Second one. It sounds like a creepy pasta that someone would write. Yeah it really does. 313 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:42,080 And the thing is with the like the jerking motion of like the no one describes it like 314 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:48,480 that until those movie came out until those movies came out. Her her herky jerky was my 315 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:55,600 that's his poor name actually. That's your sex tape. Herky jerky. It's just me alone 316 00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:11,440 flying. Yeah I'm like I'm like 70 percent. You crying holding a bag of jerky. Yeah. Just 317 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:18,080 Jack. Yeah. Just snacking on Jack. You usually got to pay good money to watch that kind of 318 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:28,480 thing. Someone eating jerky in a dark room crying. Well just fucking just just full on 319 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:33,600 punishing. No I got to say it's the second one. I'm like 70 percent sure it's the second 320 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:41,520 one. So herky jerky. It was the herky jerky. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the herky jerky. 321 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:50,640 All right. You guys ready for the results. Go. Yes. That's correct. Fuck. I thought I 322 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:56,000 got you with that one. I thought it was pretty good. I feel like you didn't describe the 323 00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:01,760 the modern horror movie. I have I it would have died. I have described herky jerky to 324 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:08,320 you on several episodes. Yeah but you made it sound like it was moving and yeah I don't 325 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,840 know the way you described it if you had not said that this would have been a much more 326 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:17,040 difficult decision. Yeah I did describe it the same way there's that one scene in the 327 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:23,040 the Twilight Boy Batman movie when he's like going down the hallway and they were shooting 328 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:28,000 the guns and every flash of the muzzle flash. Yes. I did describe it like that and I'm sorry. 329 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:34,080 That's what I thought. I thought I thought I did really know you did. Hey honestly you did good. 330 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,720 You did. Hey you did a great job. You did so honestly I thought that one was going to get 331 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:43,280 you because I assumed interdimensional would have been like a big thing you'd be like that's 332 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:49,360 got to be it. That's got to be it. But I do think Boone was interdimensional. Boone Boone's 333 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,440 fucking out of that one. I love that story. That one. Are you talking about the floating 334 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,520 scarecrow floating scarecrow. Yeah. You know what almost you know what almost gave up the 335 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,120 floating scarecrow for me and I was going to switch over as I was like how many people in 336 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:08,080 Thailand know what saltwater taffy is. Again I these are my words. Right. Right. But in my head 337 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:13,680 I like briefly thought about that. I was like how many are they really just munching down on saltwater 338 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:19,040 taffy in the 400 miles from Bangkok. I wonder where saltwater taffy was created. Was it like a like a jersey kind of trash thing? 339 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:26,400 We covered this. We talked about this. Yeah actually. So it was it did it did come about from New Jersey 340 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:34,160 and it's a joke. There's no actual saltwater in the taffy. What happened is there was like a hurricane that hit 341 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:41,360 Atlantic City and this is like a little boy goes to this flooded candy store the next day. The guy's like standing in like 342 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:49,840 knee deep water and the little boy's like hey you have any candy. And the guy's like yeah I got saltwater taffy because everything is flooded with saltwater. 343 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:57,440 So from what I understand that's where the term came from and then it just stuck. I mean that's pretty good. 344 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:03,600 I guess the jersey thing because it just seems like it would come from Jersey. That's what surprised me because like 345 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,480 I've never been to the Jersey shore so I didn't know if they had it but like you go to Cape Cod 346 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:17,440 saltwater taffy is like. So yeah that's uh that's the episode. Matt. Matt. Hi. Hey what's up. Before we 347 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:23,680 sign off I want to talk about like obviously like what you want to plug but you got your new book coming out and I'm going to be 100% 348 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:33,680 honest with you. I don't know what half the title means. Okay so um I've. Yes please please plug your upcoming library. 349 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:47,360 So I used to be a huge fan of all those like um those like alien biology shows that were on like 350 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:55,200 the Discovery Channel in the 90s. Yeah. Did you watch um did you watch Netflix alien worlds? Yeah it's 351 00:34:55,200 --> 00:35:03,040 fucking great. Did you watch that? No one talked about it. I loved it. It was one of my favorites. Yeah. No one talks about it and I think it's so good. 352 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:08,000 There was one where I thought it was kind of a cheap thing where it's like they had the one creatures on the hot side 353 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:12,880 of the planet and like the creatures on the cold side of the planet are the same but with. Yeah yeah. 354 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:20,880 Really? They really didn't try with that one. They did not try with that one at all. But like like speculative biology 355 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:29,120 it has oh it has been like since I was a kid like I have a a deep love and appreciation for science 356 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:38,320 evolutionary science um actually writing this book uh made me want to go back to school. Drove you further away from God. 357 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:47,600 Yeah I haven't been close to God since I was 13. Um I mean one really only needs to look at the giraffe to 358 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:52,400 recognize that there was no intelligent design there. Yeah you look at that that monster. 359 00:35:55,200 --> 00:36:01,440 Um but it yeah I I've been I've been uh I've been wanting to write something like this like I 360 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:10,160 I uh was like probably 10 years ago I started writing a book about uh Bigfoot like culture 361 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:18,240 and how they would evolve uh socially and biologically um. Oh very cool. So you're so 362 00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:25,040 so you're behind this the screenplay of uh Sasquatch Sunset or whatever the fuck that. Yeah I uh so our 363 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:32,000 plan we're we're gonna be actually we might be interviewing the director. I haven't seen it yet. I I heard it was great. 364 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:40,480 I haven't watched it yet. But the thing is is uh so it's a book about cryptids um assuming that uh 365 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:52,960 cryptids are aliens and so I take so astrobiology is for folks who don't know um is the study of uh 366 00:36:52,960 --> 00:37:00,160 uh life elsewhere in the universe and here on earth actually. But um yeah but it's taking what 367 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:09,600 we know about biology and evolution and applying it to other worlds. Um especially the worlds that 368 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:16,480 I place these cryptids on are known moons and planets. Besides one Veggie Man's planet I had to make up. 369 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:27,280 Uh and I called it I called it Flutolux and I created its its history and its plants and its atmosphere. 370 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:35,520 Um Flutolux sounds like either an off-brand like whole grain cereal. Like an Aldi version of 371 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:42,080 Froot Loops. Yeah yeah. Or it sounds like it sounds like something that you'd hear back to the future 372 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:48,320 when they're trying to repair the Delorean. The flux capacitor Marty. Like oh no the Flutolux has 373 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:53,360 gone down. The Flutolux has gone down with the flux capacitor cannot get up to 88 miles per hour. 374 00:37:54,000 --> 00:38:04,480 But this is my love letter to um biology and cryptozoology um and just space. Um so it's really 375 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:12,640 it's science heavy um but it's if you aren't savvy to all of that you'll still have a lot of fun. It's 376 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:18,320 very creative. What kind of what kind of research do you do like when you go to like when you when 377 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:23,440 you look at a planet or like a moon or something like that obviously you have to look into like 378 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:29,520 what kind of like atmosphere it has. What kind of like geological like geographical all that kind 379 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:34,560 of stuff. Like what kind of research do you have to do to find out about those to make sure that 380 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:39,680 your hypothesis of how certain cryptids would evolve there to become what they are today. 381 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,760 Does that make sense? What I'm trying to ask. Yep yeah absolutely. Um so I 382 00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:52,640 so I studied a lot under actual science. That was a heavy sigh. I'm sorry for asking. No no no no no 383 00:38:52,640 --> 00:39:03,920 no no no that wasn't a no. So I studied under a couple of scientists and uh I did I've read books 384 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:10,320 and books and books uh and it was about a year of study to write this book of just like reading 385 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:20,720 books and watching docs and like listening to lectures. Um so it's it's been a long time coming. 386 00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:31,200 Um and I just haven't had the time uh to write it and started and uh yeah it just it it felt so 387 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:37,920 natural writing this that I want to continue this series. Um and and and I don't think I think it's 388 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:44,720 something super unique to the cryptid world because no one has ever touched on this stuff. 389 00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:51,360 No one's ever thought no one's ever wrote about this. You know it's plenty of people have talked 390 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,800 about it. I'm actually super hyped on this because I didn't know the details. I want to read it. Like 391 00:39:54,800 --> 00:40:00,080 this I didn't know what this book was like fully about uh but now that you're describing it like 392 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:06,240 when I fall asleep at night this is a weird way to start a sentence. I can't wait for your book so 393 00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:13,120 I can fall asleep with it. No like I watch documentaries because I have to have the TV on. 394 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:19,680 Yeah me too. To fall asleep because I lived and live in the city so like noise and sound is always 395 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:24,800 like something I always needed and I'll always watch documentaries about either like the super 396 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:33,920 deep sea to see fucked up fish or like uh angler fish or outer space documentaries. Like I'll watch 397 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:38,880 like uh there was this there was a series that was kind of like planet earth but it was planets 398 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:44,720 and it was voice the voiceover was done by uh Spock from the new Star Trek movies. Oh sweet. 399 00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:50,800 Uh that tells you all like like how the planets reform like and it goes through each planet of 400 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:57,120 the solar system and then like I uh I watched uh the one what did we just talk about? Oh uh the 401 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:02,880 alien alien worlds. Like so now that I know that this is going to kind of combine everything that 402 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:09,040 I love into one kind of like thing including cryptids like this is I'm fucking. Yeah astrobiology 403 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:16,160 absolutely fascinates me. I just love the concept. Right and you'll you'll love you'll you guys will 404 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:23,440 love this. It's it's it's uh speculating the biology and the life of these cryptids on different 405 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:31,040 worlds and um yeah you're gonna really love my the the flatwoods monster because it involves earth's 406 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:36,960 ocean and I you're gonna you're gonna dig on that one. It's really cool. How did you like did you 407 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:42,960 pick a cryptid and then like kind of reverse engineer it and then kind of reverse engineer 408 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:48,080 how it would have started and then pick up planetoid or a planet or a moon based off of like 409 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:53,680 how you reverse engineered it or you're like you know what fucking this planet looks cool. I'm 410 00:41:53,680 --> 00:42:00,160 gonna put this cool cryptid with this planet and then just make it work. So what I did was I looked 411 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:11,120 at the characteristics of each cryptid and me being just like a nerd about space I thought of 412 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:20,000 a planet where so like I have at night I think about a lot of this stuff it goes through my head 413 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:28,000 just like you and um and I was like yeah I just was like hey this cryptid could live on this due 414 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:36,160 to these characteristics like say you know an atmosphere's gravity or how much water is on a 415 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:43,440 planet or if there is water you know one of the cryptids I talk about is is chemosynthetic so it 416 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:58,640 feeds it feeds off of it feeds off of gases and chemicals and non-living materials. Gotcha. And 417 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:06,560 so I think about you know the worlds first and then I take the cryptids and apply them to the 418 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:13,680 worlds and and it and it worked it just worked out so oh my god oh I want to just talk about 419 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:23,040 dude the Mothman chapter is gonna be fucking mind dude it's gonna be mind-bending it's totally trippy 420 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:31,280 now all of this all of this is based is speculative in science it's all based in science and science 421 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:39,600 theory but it's speculation because it's cryptids yeah obviously so people will enjoy it but also 422 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:44,000 it's uh there's gonna be illustrations in the book I didn't write down the illustrator's name but I 423 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:50,240 saw the uh I saw the concept art for the uh the grafted monster that you posted looks fucking sick 424 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:57,520 uh who's who's the illustrator again I'm sorry the illustrator is the amazing uh Jason Schlossman 425 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:08,560 and uh fantastic fantastic dude um and uh yeah I mean he he busted he busted them out real it was 426 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:15,840 like significantly quick but they were so beautiful um it's going to just add so good wicked talented 427 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:20,640 um now is the is the art is the artwork that you posted is that going to be the cover that like 428 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:27,840 satellite dish and then like the oh the cover the cover I'm going to release it's it's uh it's going 429 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:33,520 I'm going to I'll tell you I'll tell you the cryptid that's on the cover it's veggie man but it's a 430 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:40,720 very okay unique rendition of veggie man I think a lot of people will enjoy it I'm not gonna lie 431 00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:47,920 the the the illustration you posted when you like announced your book uh with the the satellite dish 432 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:55,760 in the forest and the old it it looks like a power violence album cover like it could be like it looks 433 00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:01,040 like it looks like well you could use that as like a nails yeah right right like cover art 434 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:07,920 that's a drop the old english font really and it it's a drop dead riff or it looks it looks like 435 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:13,840 that and I love it dude and uh all right so now I'm even more hyped to see what the veggie man 436 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:18,800 will looks like but I'm super hyped on this man yeah thank you um let's see what else what else 437 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,640 you got what else you got going on you got the book you you already released a book with your 438 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:28,720 with your compatriots and uh the moth man the moth boys white monsters the white monsters of 439 00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:36,560 sherman new york yep and we uh we uh we did that we did that a while um oh gosh what is it it's 440 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:42,560 probably two years now it was almost a year ago no I feel like it was like last year might have been 441 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:47,120 last year I don't know time's weird it's made up I'm gonna be 100% honest with you I didn't I didn't 442 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:53,920 read it yeah really it's so it's so it's so short it's so short you know what I mean like 443 00:45:54,640 --> 00:46:01,520 it's not well it's not that I can't read it I just don't I don't I don't want to 444 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:10,640 no I did I have so many books that I haven't read yet yeah they're mostly true crime and they're 445 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:17,840 sometimes sometimes story of my life just like dude they're just so boring like I bought killers 446 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,680 of the flower moon which is really good I got like halfway through that I was like this is 447 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:26,480 droning as fuck and then I tried to watch the movie and I was like this movie is way too long 448 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:34,720 I used to dude I used to read true crime books and dude it fucked me up so I was like I stopped I 449 00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:40,800 now and now I'm just reading I'm just reading like fucked up history books like I started reading uh 450 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:51,760 what was the one about the uh the Donner party oh yeah yeah that's the the the the the the the 451 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:58,080 indifferent stars above that book fucking rules yeah and it's like way easier to read it's way 452 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:02,880 more fun they cover the weirdo stuff yeah it's taken from like the journals of like people that 453 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:08,000 were there so it almost reads like uh I'm not gonna say like world war z but like it's kind of 454 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:13,920 like that where like it's journalistic stuff and also like all like whoo that is a solid book read 455 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:19,920 fucked up history books don't read true crime like the the Diatlov past book yeah was is really 456 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:27,280 fucking good like that stuff is where it's at if you guys true crime it's if you guys liked uh um 457 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:36,320 um oh gosh if you got liked world war z check out max brooks other book deevolution it's uh it's a 458 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:42,160 you know I just I just found out that max brooks is fucking mel brooks's son oh yeah yeah like no 459 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,240 one was gonna fucking tell me that well they made like a few out of it when he when he released the 460 00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:54,560 book I had no idea that's fucking wild like that's fucking wild yeah it's crazy there's his book 461 00:47:54,560 --> 00:48:02,320 it's called deevolution and it's um about this community living up on uh mount saint helens and 462 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:11,600 the town and the and the the the volcano erupts and it it it kind of secludes this town and bigfoot 463 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:16,320 who are fucking pissed off from the mount the mount exploding come and attack the town 464 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:23,600 and it's fucking awesome oh yeah dude it's so good I'm reading the fuck out of that that's awesome 465 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,760 you know as wild as I just watched like three documentaries in a row about the mount saint 466 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:33,120 helens explosion because I don't I don't know why it's the most like interesting it's a volcanic 467 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:39,280 explosion to me especially because there's one guy named harry truman who lived on a lake right 468 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:46,640 outside of it and he he was like yeah if I just you know if it erupts I'll just I'll just walk 469 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:51,200 faster than the lava and then he didn't realize that pyroclastic flows were a thing just got 470 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:58,160 fucking devastated and then but every time I watched the doc like every like he's in he's 471 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:02,160 in every single one of the documentaries and every single time he would get brought up I was like 472 00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:10,000 do you guys watch bob's burgers at all yeah uh the when they're when when uh she's singing the 473 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:16,160 songs like where is harry truman he's dead in the ground he's dead in the ground like that's all I 474 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:26,320 can think about watching this like anyways matt we've come to the end of the episode I want to 475 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,560 really thank you for coming on it's been a long time coming yeah I feel like this should have 476 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:36,000 happened probably sooner but schedules and you have a farm with chickens and now you have two 477 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:41,680 cats that are named what is it uh golem and schmiegel yeah yeah we found a cup someone ditched a 478 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:47,040 couple cats on the side of the road and we picked them up and nursed them back to health and so now 479 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:56,800 we have four cats we're getting we're getting sheep in the spring and holy shit yeah yeah dude 480 00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:01,840 I just want to come live I just want to like yeah I just want to camp in your backyard just for like 481 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:07,920 dude we got we got nine acres we got nine acres just just crash up anywhere you know done my wife 482 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,920 would lose her mind if she was on a like a farm with just like goats and chickens and like first 483 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:18,960 she'd be all about it but yeah I mean honestly guys if you're ever in the area western New York 484 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:26,240 is beautiful um and uh no I know I've been I've been out there a few times yeah uh I absolutely 485 00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:32,560 love yeah yeah I love upstate and western New York it's beautiful totally is all right matt 486 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:37,760 plug your shit where can people find you where can people do all your stuff like what do you got 487 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:44,720 moth boys you can uh the the it's a comedy it's a comedy thing it's about cryptids and 488 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:54,960 paranormal and it's it's bill gates bill gates said that it was the best podcast I've ever listened to 489 00:50:55,520 --> 00:51:04,960 so you know if you love if you love billionaires you're gonna love moth boys um if you like dead 490 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:10,800 billionaires you're gonna love billionaires and vaccines check out our podcast um but you can 491 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:20,480 listen to us anywhere uh anywhere anywhere except youtube we got faces for for radios not for cameras 492 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:28,960 anyway you think if i you had uh at moth boys on instagram at moth boys podcast and then uh my 493 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:39,680 personal is uh matthew x shang uh on instagram and i am not straight edge obviously i'm on the show 494 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:46,720 with these two so um all right gang i i had a blast thank you for having me on yeah yeah yeah 495 00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:52,960 uh all right and with that uh make sure you follow us on instagram at cryptococktail follow us on 496 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,440 uh tick tock cryptococktail party and with that sarge would you like to say goodbye and i love 497 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:04,720 you to the audience yeah i'm also an author oh yeah what you're an author it's mostly pictures 498 00:52:04,720 --> 00:52:08,960 it's mostly pictures it's almost all pictures sorry coloring book you can go to us 499 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:16,640 sarges supernormal.com get my coloring book for 9.99 and um take out your frustrations with being 500 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:26,400 a human being in 2024 on with crayons i love that um don't punch walls it is in there is there is no 501 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:34,560 ab absolutely no literary value to this book uh and that was the goal all along um and uh we thank 502 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:41,520 you for coming on matt and uh we love you our listeners we love you all anytime anytime anytime 503 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:46,400 i'm gonna hold you there night yeah hit me up if you want to cry with me if you want to just talk 504 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:56,640 whatever um i'll do that when i'm having a herky jerky moment just breathe heavy into the all right 505 00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:16,480 all right bye everyone goodbye bye