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You can hear me, but you can't hear the music?

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Yeah, how am I supposed to get hyped up with no music?

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And whatever. Anyways, hey everybody. Hey everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Cryptic Cocktail Party. I'm your host Dave.

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I'm Saj! Hi! We're still working on it. I'm Saj the Destroyer from the internet.

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We're off to a rough start. Yeah, anyways, how you doing buddy? You looking good?

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I'm good. I'm good. I'm doing phenomenal. I'm taking my sons to Legoland out in Goshen, New York tomorrow.

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That's going to be a fun drive. Four hours through Connecticut.

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Hey man, I have to do it all the time to go back to New Hampshire. So it's not too too bad.

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You know Connecticut is... Oh yeah, but the problem is you have to drive through Pennsylvania.

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Well, I don't have to drive through... All right, if I was on like the Pittsburgh end, that would suck.

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But like I'm two minutes and I'm in Jersey and then I'm like a half hour from there I'm in New York and then like an hour or so I'm in Connecticut.

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Like once I hit Connecticut, I know I'm at like almost a halfway point to New Hampshire.

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Mostly because the traffic in Connecticut is way worse somehow than New York and Massachusetts.

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I think it's just because they all suck at being humans in general there. So, but I always wanted to go to Legoland.

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But are you going to like Legoland like the theme park or like Legoland like just like the store?

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No, it's a theme park.

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Okay. Now...

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Yeah, it's a theme park. It's got... The best part is when you get in the elevator, it plays disco music as it goes up.

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And there's like a disco ball and like the lights flash. It's... I don't know why.

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It activates something in my brain that immediately makes me 10 years old again.

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All right. See, I've always wanted to go to Legoland, but I've always been on the impression that you can't go if you don't have a child.

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I believe that's the case.

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Yeah, they do do do do. They do do like an adults only like night.

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Yeah, they do. They do an adults only night. Yep.

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But it's like once every like few months and it's always like in the middle of the weekday.

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Like I can't...

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Well, yeah.

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Like I'm not going to fucking like... Because I would kill to go to Legoland.

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I remember going... Off topic. I went... When I was a kid, we went to Germany because my grandparents live there.

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And we went to K'nex Land, not going to lie. Not as cool as fucking...

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Not as cool.

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Not as cool as Legoland.

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Close.

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Yeah. Wait, can you be taking your kids places? Doesn't want to have COVID.

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Like, isn't he fucking sick?

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Oh, no, no. He's good now.

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Okay. All right. Yeah. I mean, COVID doesn't last... COVID's not like old COVID. This is new COVID.

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New COVID takes like two days to get over and then you're fine. It's like a cold.

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Gotcha. Gotcha. All right. I just...

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But yeah, that sounds awesome, man. A bit...

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Yeah, I'm excited.

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Have you been before?

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. We went when it first opened for my son's 10th birthday. Now it's his 13th birthday.

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Is this like a welcome to puberty kind of like special occasion? Like in a few years,

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you're not going to want to do this. So let's get it over with.

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Oh, no. In this family, he will always want to do this because my whole house

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is surrounded by Legos, as you can see.

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Oh, yeah.

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So like, it's a whole thing. And for those of you listening, just know that I just showed a badass

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Lego collection. My entire room down here, it's 360 degrees of Legos. You can't look somewhere

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without seeing them. Yeah. Which makes it very hard when I'm working for me to have like serious

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HR type conversations when I'm also looking at three different Lego Millennium Falcons.

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Yeah, that's, you know...

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I mean, I'm at that point, too, where I'm literally trying to figure out what stuff to get rid of.

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It's like trying to pick which one of your kids is your favorite.

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Yeah. But I mean, that's I feel like that's easier said than done.

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Yeah. So, but yeah, so we're going to Legoland and I'm going to be a giant child for basically two

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days. Going down on Monday and then coming back on Tuesday.

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Well, if you see any cool fucking like cryptid Lego minis, fucking scoop some up and send them

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my way. I'll fucking, I'll then use a few a few ducats for that.

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You got it.

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Well, that's cool. That's a pretty good bright spot for your week. I got a really good

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I got a bright little bright spot that I came across today. So we live.

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Yeah. We live pretty close to not pretty close. We live like pretty much right beside 95 in Philly.

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And they just redid underneath like the entire length of where we live. It's

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like all parking underneath it. Like they made it like an actual usable space and not just

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under a bridge, which you know what I mean? But because of that, there is kind of like not a

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homeless problem, which I mean, it doesn't mean it's a problem, but someone put a sign made out

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of plywood and bolted it to a stop sign that says, oh, I love it. Take your drugs and sex and trash

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with you. And then it gives a, and then it gives a list of things that, oh, and also inside of all

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the O's and take your drugs and trash with you. And like the dotting of the eyes are all smiley

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faces. So I don't know if this is an adult or a child, but on it, it says, it gives a list of

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things they want you to take with you when you leave underneath that 95 needles, caps, crack jars,

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baggies, glass dicks, blunt, blunt guts, condoms, new and used with two exclamation points. And then

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a smiley face, like a smiley face underneath it. Now I, I, I pose to you this question. What is a

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glass dick? My first thought was like a crack pipe. My wife, my wife said, you know, maybe,

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maybe it's a dildo. I was like, first of all, glass dildos cost like way more than just regular

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silicone dildos. So then no one's leaving those bad. And then we both came to the conclusion that

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maybe this person who made this sign doesn't know anything about drugs. And they think that

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like the, like just a regular weed bowl, cause it kind of looks like a dick.

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Like, do you think they mean that? But also who's leaving behind glass bowls again,

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far more expensive than just make you getting a pen, like a pen and some tin foil. Like.

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That is amazing. I don't know. The sign made my day. It was one of the funniest. I knew,

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I knew a woman who had a pink bowl. It was like a light pink bowl and it was shaped like a dick.

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Yeah. I mean, I've seen. The bowl part was in the balls. Yeah. And then of course you.

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I mean, I've, I've, I've seen those before, but just, but I'd need to know what a glass

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dick is. And also the fact that I'm guessing it's just the pipe. It's just some unsophisticated

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Rube who's like, you suck it on that pipe. It's a dick. But also I walk underneath that

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this all the time. I've never seen whatever the fuck they're talking about. I mean,

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I've seen needles, but I live in the city. That is going to be needles no matter where you are.

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And it's not like, it's not like a pile. Like, it's not like a, I mean, it's not,

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it's not like a fucking hazmat situation where like you need, do you know what I mean? Like

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you see it. I mean, also you're under a bridge. Like what are you expecting down there?

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True. It's not fucking Narnia.

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And I'm a big fan of being underneath bridges. I like when I was in my youth and I was like,

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super punks, I'd go down on bridges, spray paint, fucking get drunk. I, I'm a big fan of hanging out

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under bridges. Yeah. And most people you meet under there, super nice. Are they addicted to

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heroin? Probably, but that's maybe, you know what I mean? But like, whatever. Never had a bad

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experience under a bridge. Now, obviously I can't speak for everyone because there's been a lot of

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terrible things that happened under a bridge, but fucking leave these people alone. There was that

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guy in Florida, I believe we had his face eaten off. I think he was under a bridge. No, that was

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on top of a bridge. That was like on like on top of the bridge. Okay. Sorry. They got helicopter

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footage of that bath salts guy. Are you sure? I really thought he was like coming out from

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underneath the bridge. No, you can walk in on the sidewalk. We watched you. You could watch it.

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I watched, I mean, I watched it, but it was a long time ago. It was back when the internet was fun

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and you could still watch stuff like that. Yeah. Speaking of the internet, uh,

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you ready to, uh, dive into today's topic? Oh yeah, that's right. We're, we're podcast.

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Yeah, I know. I forget sometimes too. Yeah, me too. All right. So today we're going to be going to

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the land between the lakes. Are you familiar with the land between the lakes?

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I've heard of it, but I also have been playing a lot of Elden Ring. So it could be, it might be

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fun like conflating the two. Yeah. All right. So the land between the lakes is a 171,000 acre

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recreational area that sits in both Kentucky and Tennessee between Lake Barkley and the Kentucky

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lake. Uh, altogether, it consists of more than 300 miles of shoreline, 200 miles of walking trails,

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and just like endless acres of unbroken forest. It's a spot where locals and tourists alike go

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camping, fishing, or, or partake in the more popular activity there. Bird watching. Apparently

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the land between the lakes or LBL for short, uh, is apparently the most popular inland birding area

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in the Eastern United States with over 250 species of birds observed there since 1963.

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I thought you, I added that in there because I know you're a bird lover. You have one who

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makes guest appearances on the show very frequently. You don't, let's, uh, let's just spell that myth

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right now. Um, my daughter is a bird lover. And you take care of the bird. So you love the bird.

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I got her two birds thinking this would help her learn some responsibility and, and relax a little

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bit. And then I found out that she was allergic to birds. Is that a thing? Yes. I guess, I guess so.

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That's something you can't find out until you're like pretty much in contact with a bird until you

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have one in your house that you have invested money in. And then me being the sucker that I am, I can't,

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I don't feel right going back to the pet store and being like, take these. So I took on these two birds.

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Okay. And now one of them who I think might be the Highlander because I've had it for like

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well over five years at this point. Yeah. Birds live forever, dude. So I like this bird. Okay.

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Because I've lived with it for five years. Gotcha. But I don't like all birds because they shit on

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stuff and I hate that. Yeah. So I'll just go to your nest and squeeze one out and grow a tail right

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above your heads. So just to reiterate, Sarge, bird lover. I figured you would love that.

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No, no, no. Oh, fuck. Not going to scrap the episode with, with all it has to offer the LBL

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land between the lakes. I'm going to call it LBL from now on because saying land between the lakes is

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aggressive. It's a tongue twister. However, LBL sounds like a weird fundamentalist version of like

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the Mormon faith, but the LBL has now become the focal point of the region's now $600 million

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tourism industry. And the area was also once designated a UNESCO biosphere reserve. And I say

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once was because the Trump administration withdrew it from the program in 2017. But in this lush area,

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a seemingly untapped nature, something more ominous may have made its home today, Sarge. We're going

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to be covering the beast of LBL and the land between the lakes massacre. Is this something that

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you might be familiar with? Do you think? No, no, no, I'm interested, but I do want to provide

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some context as to why Trump eliminated that bio biosphere. It was because it might be oil

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there or something designation. He heard that birds were migratory and then just immediately

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assumed they were all coming from Mexico. So I mean, are they not? I mean, they have vice

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over the winter. I don't want any migrant birds. They're the worst. Now in this area, there's always

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been talk of supernatural ship hauntings, Native American curses, mysterious orb like lights that

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hung around graves and over the waters. And these were presumed to be the spirits of those who graves

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were flooded. Oh yeah. So it's like a Bridgewater triangle situation. Well, kind of. So the land

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between the lakes was originally called the land between the rivers until the government came and

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made a bunch of dams. And then the government, the army Corps of engineers, usually they send out.

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Yeah. They were kind of, but the government was like eminent domain or whatever, and just kicked

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a bunch of people out of their homes. Entire towns ended up under the water. So, so there's a bunch

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of graves and like homes and shit underneath the water. So that's what they think. These lights

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that were above the water are. Yeah. According to one source I read, there are at least 250

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family graveyards scattered throughout the surrounding forests, as well as underwater,

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as well as as well as countless revolutionary and civil war grave sites and just a ton of like

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native American graves and holy sites now lost to the lakes and also the dense forest that no one's

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allowed to be in because it's a protected area. So it makes sense that there's some sort of like

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supernatural tomfoolery afoot, I guess is the best self don't go swimming there. Yeah. There's like

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entire towns that are just under this lake or both these lakes. But ghost orbs and bog witches,

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which is another thing that was rumored to have been lurking in the woods, aren't what we're here

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to discuss. The creature that strikes fear into the hearts of those that live and play in the area

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is known as the beast of LBL. It's described as being a wolf like creature that stands on his

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hind legs. It stands over seven feet tall with long course hair covering its entire body. Its head is

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massive. It wears a short sleeve white button down shirt, a black tie, and it keeps asking you if you

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want to go to church with it. Its head is massive and wolf like with an extra long snout with

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unnaturally sharp teeth. Like apparently the incisors on this thing are fucking like,

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like saber tooth almost, but like fits in the mouth. It's fucked up. Like unnaturally sharp

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teeth, like like scalpels. I don't know, dude. It's just what it said, bro. I don't know. Well,

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look, I'm, I'm trying to paint a picture of my mind. All right. I don't think they're like serrated

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or like razor sharp, but I mean like pointy sharp, like, I don't know. All right. Sharp

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and then a dog's teeth. Yes. Uh, it's, it's arms are long, but muscular ending in huge hands with

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long spindly fingers and sharp pony claws that could cut down any livestock in like one fell swoop.

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So we're talking like Kellyanne Conway right now. Pretty much. It's, uh, it's feet are like that of

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a man's, but the tracks that leaves behind are kind of unusual. It leaves behind like the barefoot

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impression of a man's foot, but where the toes are, it looks as though they're padded, like a

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paw print almost. Okay. It's howl is something even like the most seasoned of outdoorsmen know

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that when, like when you hear it, you just get the fuck out. It was described as an unnatural

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guttural sounds of painful hunger and agony. So that's not great. Okay. Uh, uh, so the beast of

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LBL is what the cryptic community would classify in these days as a dog man dog. Men are like pretty

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hot, quote unquote hot in the community right now for some reason. And it's cause of all the erotica

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on Amazon. Yeah. I did see one called nodded by the dog man. And I thought that was one of the

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funniest fucking things. Oh God. Oh God. It's, which implies that it has the penis of a dog and

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a nod. Okay. I'm glad we're all just to be on the same page here. Uh, yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately,

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I know what that means. I wish I didn't, you know? Yeah. Now I'm going to be, I'll be the first to

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say it just like big foot. I'm not convinced at all that the dog man is real. Okay. I'm just going

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to flat out say it. I don't believe in the dog man, but this story rules. So I'm just going to

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tell it cause I think let's go with it. Just go with it. Legends of the beast of LBL. Like they aren't

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new. It's been around for at the very least a hundred years or so, obviously again, it's gaining

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popularity now because everything is a dog man or a werewolf or something fucking stupid.

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Naturally, but it's probably been around longer. I mean, just like big foot. I'm sure the native

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Americans had like their own lore about it. Yeah. Uh, you know, like stories passed down from family

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member to family member, town to town. You know how oral traditions go. Yeah. And with each new

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encounter or story, the tales were like updated and changed to reflect the, the changes, I guess.

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Uh, some people told the story as the beast being a native American shaman who uses powers for evil

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and was killed in his wolf state. And now roams the area is kind of just like one last like, fuck you

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to like, yeah, the area, uh, others claim it was a cursed or disease man that at night turned into

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a werewolf basically. And that curse like continued down his bloodline, like to this day, you know,

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it's just like a continuation of that. And then like others just claim it's like straight up,

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just like the devil or whatever. It's just like demons. Um, turns out it's a guy who just cooks

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meth in the woods. Yeah. And uh, settings of the beast continue obviously to this day, mostly it

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coming out, killing some pigs and cows and shit, whatever horses. Uh, one dude said that he was

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cleaning his horse stables or something one night and the beast kind of like side jumped out of one

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of the stalls with its arms spread out. Like it was going to grab him like a, like, I'm going to get

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you. But, uh, but it just, it just screamed at him and then ran past him out of the barn.

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And the man who told this story also admitted that he quote unquote, what his overalls. So

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that's kind of funny. This is not the first time that we've heard of somebody who made poopies

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when they saw a monster and every time I hear it, I love it. It just, it adds so much to the story,

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but the story that caught my eye is a story that has, is a story that has no official police record,

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no media coverage. And the source for this is an article written by a gas station employee named

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Jan Peterson, who heard the story from two cops that came into their store at 3 AM and also claims

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there is a coverup. And that's why there's blackout on information. So process that information,

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however you want. It's wild because even knowing all of this, there's documentaries made about this

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story. There are multiple episodes. There's probably full podcasts dedicated to this story.

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And they know this, they know that this is, this is the only source. Absolutely amazing. So the

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story goes that one night in the mid 1980s, Jan Peterson was working the graveyard shift at a gas

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station when two officers came in looking shaken, terrified, and just all around like visibly upset.

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One of them even looked like he was going to like puke. Oh, so like normal cops. Yeah. So the cops

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come in, get some coffees and some waters and went outside and sat on the curb. Since there were no

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other customers, Jan decided to step outside and see what was going on or maybe help ease their minds

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or whatever. Just friendly small township. Uh, they, she even offered some roll aides to the man who

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looked like, uh, so he's going to puke. And apparently in her words with his shaking hand,

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he took them and put them in his mouth. It's, but I love it. Yeah. Uh, they sat in silence until one

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of the officers for some reason decided to go into great detail about their active murder investigation

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that they just came from. Random gas station employee. Now you got an honest face. Let me

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tell you about all the secrets from this investigation. Yeah. Now her telling of it reads like a creative

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writing prompt. So instead of me reading all of it and trying to put it into my own words, I'm just

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going to read to you what she wrote because one, yes, please. I'm lazy as fuck. And two, it's just

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way funnier. So now you gotta read it. Yeah. So this is what she says that they told her.

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Okay. Are you ready for this? I'm ready. Let's go. They had, they had gotten the call to help

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with an investigation at one of the many rural campgrounds down in LBL. The tour season was

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about to start in a few weeks. So the usual, also by the way, I'm reading this off of a blog that

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has like one of those old, like, like the color of the font and the color of the background are so

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aggressive to the eyes that reading this is very hard. What is it like black background with red or

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green font? It's yeah. Uh, it's actually like neon yellow. Now the tour season was about to start in

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a few weeks. So as usual, there were some early arrivals that had come to claim prime camping

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spots before the areas were overrun with tents, campers and travel trailers. The sun was setting

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low. I don't know how she got all this information because this is way too much. The sun was setting

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low in the sky when they arrived at the scene. Several other office official vehicles were

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already there and there are many more to come as they would see, you find out many coming from

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other counties and a few coming all the way from another state. Several of these, several of these

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to come were corners from different counties. One corner vehicle was already present as well as an

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ambulance, which would prove useless as there was no one to save. The victims were all dead,

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quite dead, completely, totally and thoroughly deceased.

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A young married couple that had come to take it easy for a few days were the first to discover

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the ghastly scene. Neither one of them wanted to stay behind while the other went for help. So they

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both nervously traveled to the nearest town, Grand Rivers and called the authorities. They did not

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return to LBL. They merely gave the arriving of officer directions to the area of discovery and

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rented a local hotel room. With the sun going down, it got dark pretty fast. So there was a

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flurry of floodlights from the cruisers being pointed in all directions, along with the excited

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movements of $50 flashlights being held by nervous restless hands, searching the trees, the grounds,

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the leaves, the shadows. You can tell that this woman, this was her time to shine. She was like,

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I have always wanted to be a writer and now I'm finally here. There was a parked motor home at

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the site, its frame being lit by a campfire close by a fire that had almost went out on its own,

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but had been rekindled by the new crowd of men in uniform so that they could have more light.

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The front and back doors of the home were open. One of the doors hanging by one hinge in a crooked

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slant through the windows, they could see zigzag movements of luminosity as the beams from flash

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lights search the interior. Bloody hand prints slid down the thin metal walls close to the front

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door and more bloody hand prints could be seen the length, the length towards the back door.

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There are images dancing eerily in the firelight, like some ancient tribal symbols.

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Bro, who taught this person to write? I don't know. Hold on. Adam and Bill, also she gave these

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people names to protect their identities. So Adam and Bill are the two cops. Adam and Bill did not

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even want to imagine what was inside the motor home, but then again, they would soon find out

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that it wasn't what was inside, but what was outside that would change their lives forever.

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There was already crime scene tape placed in numerous scattered parts of the area.

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The little white flags on metal stakes stuck into the ground marking evidence. Evidence of ripped

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clothing, bodies and body parts separated by limbs, a pile of bowels, pieces of loose flesh clinging

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to muscle tissue. What used to be three bodies that just hours before had been a happy family

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on a happy vacation to create happy memories. But now there were just three distinct buttocks.

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Is a father, a mother and a young son. The happiness was gone, destroyed by a psychotic madman

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or was it men? A murderous rage had taken place. Once so abhorrently appalling that there were a

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few witnesses to the scene that had kept their composure or held their recently eaten dinners

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down. At first sight, the victims appeared to be butchered by some unnameable weapon, possibly an

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axe or a chainsaw. Upon further inspection by the first arriving coroner, the wounds on the bodies

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were determined not to have been caused by a sharp instrument but rather by some piercing well-defined

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claws. In other words, by some keen mordently long incisors. Wildcat, bear, wolves? The coroner shook

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his head in baffled disagreement with each guest from the officers. The claw marks, for instance,

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on the back of the father's corpse was distinctly made by four long claws with a smaller digit like

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a thumb on the side. A span wider than a man's print, wider and different than bears marks,

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with deeply deliberate gouges in the flesh. Rake marks from an angry unknown source trying to grab

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its prey that was no doubt trying to escape. The wildcat and wolf's theory was dismissed as an

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as the open wound marks were apparently made by a more grandiose animal source. The marks were much

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larger than any mountain lion, wolf or coyote. Whatever did it had a larger snout and more

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sizable teeth. There was also indications of the larger areas of the cadavers, a bite marks where

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the flesh, meat and bone had been yanked away from the body. Like a human who bites into an apple and

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leaves the impression of his bite and teeth marks. So there so were the open wounds on these

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individuals. Bears, well they aren't native to the area but who knows maybe a grizzly did sneak in

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some way but that was far-fetched. He would have had to have traveled several states and crossed

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several rivers to even get close to this part of Kentucky. Everyone present was betting on the

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quote-unquote bear hypothesis anyway and no one even thought of anything, sorry this is so hard

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to read, even thought of so poorly written of anything else to be the cause of such a savage

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attack. A bear, it had to be a bear. From the back door of the motor home an officer stepped down

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slowly holding in his hands some type of garment, a dress, a small dress that would have fit a small

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girl of around five years old. He informed the onlookers that there was more little girls clothing

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packed inside the coach. Oh yeah they only found the bodies of the mom, the dad, the son so that's

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what. Okay. This meant that there was a missing person or an absent body, a member of the family.

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They all prayed she was still alive somehow, hiding somewhere. A new search began. As time went by

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additional law enforcement employees arrived as well as a few volunteer rescue squad members.

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Groups were spread out in assigned areas to examine and explore. Another coroner arrived to

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assist in the identification of and cause of death and much later a third one showed up. This one

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from a nearby state. All types of samples were placed in plastic bags marked as evidence and

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carefully stowed away. As they were packaging up what appeared to be one of the father's arms,

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one of the doctors noticed something wrapped between the dead fingers. Some tweezers slowly

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untangled a clump of long gray and brown hairs. This too was placed in the bag and marked and put

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away to be analyzed at a lab later. From somewhere in the woods about 50 yards from the campfire,

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a scream was heard. A man's shriek that turned into a long wail and then to whimpering. As others

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arrived they could see the gleam of several flashlights that the cop was holding. Several

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flashlights that the cop was holding. He was holding three flashlights. What the fuck. As

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others arrived they could see, they could see, oh they could see by the gleam of several flashlights

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that the cop was holding his hat in one hand and his light in the other. There was blood on his face,

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the front of his shirt and on the brim of his hat. More blood could be seen dripping on him.

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It was coming from above, high in the trees. The flashlight swung searching for the source of the

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mysterious bleeding. A very small hand could be seen dangling down from a tree limb way up high

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as well as a slender lifeless leg that still had a white sock still on the foot. The missing child

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had been located. It had been Adam that the blood had trickled upon, hitting his hat first, making

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him look up and then feeling the thick cold fluid sprinkling down his face and sliding down to his

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neatly buttoned shirt. It had been Adam that screamed. The little girl had apparently been

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carried up the tree and leisurely eaten upon while carefully laid across the large tree branch.

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More of the same long gray and brown hairs were found sticking in the bark and the tree nearby

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near her body. How are you doing so far, Sarge? I feel like I should check in on you.

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The writing in this is so bad that it's hard to pay attention. Like when she was like,

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it could have been a bear, but it had to have traveled across three states in a number of

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rivers. I mean, by that logic, it could have been a lion that just had to get in a boat.

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Like, are you fucking kidding? Yeah, it's not, it's not well, it's not well written.

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That's not it. She's like, oh, the dad severed arm and he has dead fingers.

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There was hair. Well, yeah, we know the fingers are dead because it's not attached to a person

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anymore. You fucking clown. This sounds like the worst Reddit creepy pasta I've ever read.

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Like, I'm sorry, guys. I know you don't know me from anyone. You don't know why I am this mad,

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but I am a creative writing minor. 90 percent of my degrees came from my ability to write a sentence

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coherently. And I'm not like an expert in grammar, but I know that like you don't need to say half

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the shit this person was saying. Like every other sentence is a redundancy built on the first on the

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previous sentence. Well, yeah, but here's the thing. This is this is what this is word for word. What

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the cops told her they. Yeah, exactly. It is word for word. The cops are like it was a cold,

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dark, sultry night. What are you talking about? It's a cold, dark, sultry. Yeah, don't worry about

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it. But anyways, after seven hours, most of the officers were sent away as a new team of investigators

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arrived. They were told not to talk to any one of the incident, especially not the media. I am sure

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that besides Adam and Bill, there were others who had to confess what they saw that night. If in fact,

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this whole event ever really happened, witnesses that had to divulge the awful secret of this,

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that atrocious, the atrocious discovery at one of the campgrounds at LBL. About a month after sitting

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outside with about a month. Oh, OK. About a month after sitting outside with Adam and Bill that

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night, they stopped in again during one of my midnight shifts. They're both rather quiet,

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more serious in nature, not like before the incident where they would get around while

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drinking their sodas and eating a snack or two. They had both aged in some odd way. Streaks of

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gray that had not been there before highlighted both of their heads of hair. Their faces had

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lines of worry and showed signs of stress. I would see them again and again many times afterwards.

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But on this particular evening, they informed me that they got word about some of the lab tests

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that were taken that dreadful night. The tests on the saliva taken from the from the bite marks and

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from the hair found on the man's fingers in the in the tree bark came back with an unknown species

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origin. The closest animal that they could compare it to was that of Canis lupus, a wolf.

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It's just full on jerk off motion. Thing is, this story, super compelling. I love the idea. I love

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everything about it except for the writing has completely ruined it for me. Now I don't even care.

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Now I hope everyone's dead. Yeah. But but that's I mean, and this goes on, but that's that's the

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story of the massacre of at a lab between the lakes. She just go on to say that whether Adam

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and Bill had played an elaborate hoax on me, I'll never really know for sure. But their sincerity

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and fear painted a picture of truth in their eyes and actions. And then she goes on to say there

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were several more stories that I've heard about this werewolf over and I'll be out, but I'm not going

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to fucking read any of that because I don't care. Yeah. I really hope she doesn't write any more

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stories because it would take forever for her to be like a guy got killed by an undisclosed bear

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like wolf like creature. Yeah. It would be 25 paragraphs and she would have 13 13 different

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sentences to describe how old somebody looked. Yeah. She does. She does say that you will never

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read about this in the papers or hear about it on the news or get a confession from any law enforcement

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official or man of office. The media will say it's a bunch of hoo ha or just prank, silly stories,

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urban legends, lies, tall tales and such. This is that's weirdly convenient because they told her

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right away. This is tourism country and that means millions of dollars to the area. So you can't scare

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off business. Can you? And by the way, that's a great place to end this. I'm only halfway down

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the page of the article. She already says everything she needed to say and she just keeps going. So,

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Oh God. Yeah. But wow. Yeah. There you have it. You find this on Reddit? No, no, this is on

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dude. If you Google massacre of land between the lakes or whatever, like you'll find like a full on

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documentary by small town monsters who was the most incredible fucking asshole bullshit that I can

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think of. And I've called them out before, especially when they called fucking the,

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they called the Ruger, a skinwalker and all they, they're just bad all around. They promote,

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they promote a bunch of native American legends as like, they just steal them. Yeah. It's bad.

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But yeah, there's like, this is like a heavily believed in thing in the cryptic community. Like

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they, they believe that this happened because it's gotten so muddied over the, because the

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original post no longer exists. This, I took this from someone who found it, was able to save it

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and then post it on the, it's actually a phantasmonsters.com the same one where I got

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the, the mantis man stories from that explains the over describing of the muscly arms of this

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creature. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. But there you have it. So yeah, what do you, what do you,

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what do you think? But writing aside, yeah, writing aside, I'm not, I'm not going to harp on it

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anymore. My anger has subsided. Yeah. Focusing on like the story itself, like how we, how we feeling?

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I mean, I like it. I like it, but I think, I think what's missing is just the, the, we got like the

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one story about the police. Yeah. I would have, and I'm going to just have to look it up myself,

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but I want to see like what other people have said, like what, what other people have seen,

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is there any consistency to the description of it? I mean, but I find it very interesting.

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Like the description of the beast. Yeah. Yeah. It's all consistent across the board. But I mean,

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if you, if you, if you grew up in this area, you know, with a description, you could easily make

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up the story. I want to find it. I just don't want to get eaten by it. You know what I mean?

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Set up some trail cams. Let's make this happen. But I mean, it's just like, it's like every story

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of anyone encountering the dog, man, it's always like, they always describe it as like, it's a

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ferocious creature that upon sight will murder you and you know, whatever. But it's like every

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story I've ever heard of the dog, man is like, I saw it. It looked at me growled and then ran away.

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It's like, no one, like, you know what I mean? It's like, I've never heard a story like I was

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attacked by it survived. And well, maybe with the family, the dog, man took a bite and was like,

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I don't like the way this tastes. And now he runs away from people. Cause he's like,

393
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Oh, broccoli. You know what I mean? Like you just don't taste good. So you're saying he's like,

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he's curious, like a shark, like a shark, like humans aren't in their food chain, but they'll,

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they'll take a bite. But then they'll spit you out. Like, yeah. Or maybe, or maybe like the family

396
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just played baby shark too much in the, in the, in the dog, man was just like, all right, I'm done.

397
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Well, this isn't, this isn't the mid 80s. So, so maybe they played some raffy. Oh, he was popular.

398
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They could have done that. I don't know. Dogs are very sensitive to sound.

399
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So maybe the dog heard that horrible music and decided to kill the whole family. Yeah. I just,

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the dog dog, man, I don't, I don't buy it, dude. I mean, it's weird because I do believe in a lot

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of weird shit. Do I believe in a lot of things that we talk about on the show? No. Are there some,

402
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are there some things that I do? Hell yeah, man. Like I want them to be real. Yes. Do I believe

403
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they're real? No. It's just like same thing with big foot and like any of the bigger quote unquote,

404
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like bigger cryptids, like the sightings are never compelling. It's always just like, I saw it from a

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distance, like at least with like the stuff that we cover, especially the more niche ones, like

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flat was like, there was people face to face with it. It was a one-off thing. Like they didn't see

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from a distance. They encountered a creature. They encountered something with this shit. It's like,

408
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yeah, you know, I saw a wolf man. He was, yeah, what ruined the believability for me was the

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terrible writing because my thought is this person was trying to write like a creepy pasta on Reddit.

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They weren't actually trying to tell a real story, but even if like it was real and like don't add

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like flavor, the flavor, like, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like that's why I think it's fake. Like

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it's fake. Like write what you remember, write down like what you can somewhat remember what they

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exactly said. Like don't add like, you know what I mean? Like fucking all this flavor texts and also,

414
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and again, the entire story that I told you was in the middle of this entire long fucking post. Like

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just give me the details. Like don't add like. That's why I said at the beginning, this was

416
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clearly her time to shine. Yeah. Like she needed to write this like super detailed, heavily described

417
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flowery bullshit when she could have just been like, I knew these two cops and they told me about a

418
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fucking wolf man that killed a bunch of people. Here's the details. Way more believable than

419
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it was a dark night. There were many flashlights, $50 flashlights. Yeah. So this is, so this is,

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this is the header of the article on phantoms and monsters. It says the article, the following

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article is written by Jan Thompson and forwarded to me by my colleague, Ben Peveller of the NAFS,

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the website where this article originally appeared was taken down by the author after she was deemed

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a liar and a fraud. Oh, Yatsi. There you go. I'm not the only one. And then it says, uh, I'm not

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going to go into the scenario considering the source of the accusation. The article has been

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reprinted by others though. I cannot attest to the exact content. Those, those, those versions

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presented Ben believes that Jan story is credible and he is from the area of the incident and has

427
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talked to others who have met Jan, but not, but not the office. All right. Uh, I also want to give

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credit to Barton Nunley, who brought this story to the public's attention in his documentary,

429
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hunt the dog, man, high strangeness in Western Kentucky. And then again, there's also a small

430
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town monsters documentary about it as well as countless episodes of podcasts, stuff like that.

431
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Like, I mean, you can believe it if you want, but to me, this is just fucking great. It's not real.

432
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It's it's bullshit. I really think it's like slender, man. It's a creepy pasta and this person

433
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thought they were going to pull one over and it just, all of it smacks of nonsense. But the other

434
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thing too, is that like, this is like the perfect, like you're this area already heavy heavily

435
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believes in shit like this. You know what I mean? Like it's been around forever. So to write this,

436
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to be from the area and then to have someone who's also from the area, part of like a fucking like

437
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cryptid paranormal group, like kind of give you their backing even makes it more credible,

438
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even though it's like clearly not like, yeah, but the, but the, the, the big red flag for me,

439
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and which I don't understand how no one else, because I hate to say it, but the cryptic community

440
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and the fucking conspiracy and like weird right wing, they all kind of mesh together at certain

441
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points. So they don't care about the fact that the biggest red flag was when she started out with,

442
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you won't find this in the newspaper. You won't find it in the media. There'll be no police records

443
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of this because they want to keep it hush hush because it'll impact tourism. Yeah. That's the

444
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biggest red flag. If you can't verify that this fucking happened, it didn't happen. There's no way.

445
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Yeah. Also the media cannot wait to report things. Exactly. And you're telling me that like

446
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Jan, not even like a firsthand witness. This is like a third hand witness. Like it's nonsense.

447
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It just absolute nonsense. It just frustrates me because like shit like this, like this is why I

448
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hate fucking dog man, big foot. And I hate all the new skin walker shit because like it just muddies

449
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the water of just like what actually might actually be out there. But also, I don't know. I don't know

450
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the history of the dog, man. Like, I don't know if this is like appropriation of like a Native

451
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American thing. It probably fucking could be. And we're just probably we're just being super white

452
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about it. And I don't want to do that. But who the fuck knows, man? I don't know. Yeah. The thing

453
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that annoys me the most about it. And this is what triggered me to believe that it wasn't real was

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just like you were saying, how descriptive she was about everything. Yeah. When you're telling

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somebody else's story, you don't you don't add flourishes. Yeah. I've never been like I've never

456
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witnessed something and then had to tell a friend about it and be like, yeah, man, dude, it was a

457
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it was a cold and brisk autumn evening. Yeah. Sun was setting just below the horizon.

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The amber unless you were trying to make a joke out of it. Like if you were trying to fuck around

459
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to the end, that would make sense. Well, like, yeah, like don't don't like the guys were like,

460
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:05,360
yeah, it's like seven o'clock. We went to this trailer. A bunch of people died and she's like,

461
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seven o'clock. The sun was just setting below the. Oh, no. My favorite part was this is this is where

462
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it started for me when I when my bullshit meter went off. It was a very beginning when she's like,

463
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the sun was setting low in the sky. Yeah. When does the sun set high in the sky? You fucking idiot.

464
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When when once have you ever seen the sun set, you know, at noon? What if there's a mountain in the

465
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way? Then it's setting high and it's still low. Not really. It's big mountain, Everest, big mountain.

466
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Also, is Kentucky and is Kentucky and Tennessee? I think there's some mountains that way. There's

467
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a lot of hills in Kentucky. I know for sure, but well, I think there might also be some mountains.

468
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I didn't look this up, but like is is the the line between the lakes? It's got to be like kind of

469
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that's like Appalachia kind of area, right? It's going to be our longest episode ever because

470
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we're just going to fucking sit here and talk shit about this for so long.

471
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I'm looking it up right now, but I feel like we don't ever break down the stories we're telling.

472
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I think this is a good time to do it because this is clearly nonsense, but I just don't understand

473
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how like if I Google massacre between the lakes, like you're going to get so many results and

474
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they're all going to do like this run right here. This is from July 29th, 2024. OK, so it is part

475
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of the Appalachian mountain range. Yeah, but if you Google the massacre of land between the lakes

476
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or land between lakes massacre, you get a bunch of like stuff like new like stuff like from this year

477
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talking about it and how like it's real. And again, the new like this article right here from 2024,

478
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it says the newest entry about the LBL massacres entitled Dogman territory, werewolves in the land

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between the lakes, which first of all, even though dog man's not real, it's not a werewolf. It's like

480
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it's not a dude who turns into a wolf. It's just a fucking wolf man. Like I don't like it's like

481
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:07,600
how like they did the Rougarou like they said that like the Rougarou is a werewolf. It's not

482
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huge. Yeah, they're just making more out of it than it needs than there needs to be.

483
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Like a werewolf, you're cursed. You don't want to be a werewolf like a Rougarou. You want you become

484
00:45:16,720 --> 00:45:21,760
like you actively seek out becoming that same thing with like the dog man. Like the dog man is

485
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just a fucking dog man. I don't know. Anyway, Sarge. Yeah, we're getting we're just

486
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two thumbs way down on the reality of this. Two thumbs way down.

487
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This one. And if I had a third thumb, it would be three thumbs down for the writing.

488
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Yeah. Oh, God. The writing was so bad. But anyways, this is uh, that's it. We're done.

489
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All right, Sarge. So that's the episode. We did good. I think it's a long survive. It's a longer

490
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one. It was dumb. It was really fucking stupid, but it was funny and I had a good time. Yeah.

491
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People will appreciate it. Yeah. All right. Is there anything you want to plug? You want to

492
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:03,600
you want to promote anything? I know you still got your coloring book. Yep. Sarge is supernormal.com

493
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still available. Nine ninety nine. Get your coloring book. Do it before the election because

494
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hopefully after the election, it won't be necessary anymore. It'll probably be banned if the other guy

495
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wins. And then you find me on the Internet. Just Google Sarge the Destroyer. I'm sure I'll show up

496
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somewhere on something that you are participating in. Yeah. Be it YouTube, TikTok X, which is the

497
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dumbest name for a website ever. So I'm still calling it Twitter, Instagram threads. I'm all

498
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over the place. But follow me and buy my coloring book because it'll be fun. Yeah. You can find links

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to all of his socials as well as where to buy the coloring book in the link in our bio on Instagram

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503
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I am wide open. Yeah. Support us on Patreon. It's five dollars a month.

504
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You know, we'll do some stuff maybe. Who knows? Let's do this. Besides that,

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I got nothing else. Sarge, you want to say goodbye and I love you to the audience?

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Hey, you guys, I love you. Thank you for listening.

