1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:28,760 Well, welcome to the cryptid cocktail party. 2 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:33,200 This is a show where we have a few drinks, share a few laughs, and take a dive into the 3 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:34,840 unknown. 4 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,560 I am not your host Dave. 5 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:42,040 He had an apportionment commitment come up, so I'm going to fill his very big shoes and 6 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,280 surprisingly comfortable underwear. 7 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:49,520 My name is Sarge and diving down the rabbit hole with me today is my neighbor Maynard, 8 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,480 my partner in crime and dare I say, my muse. 9 00:00:52,480 --> 00:00:55,800 Say hello to the people, you rare and glorious bastard. 10 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:56,800 What's going on? 11 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:04,040 I figured today would be a good day to, you know, crack a nice one of these bad boys. 12 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:05,040 Is that an arrogance? 13 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,040 It is. 14 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:07,040 Cheers, my good man. 15 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:08,040 You got it for me. 16 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:09,040 It's very good. 17 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,040 It's very good. 18 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,040 Love this IPA. 19 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,720 What's been, so what's up Maynard? 20 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,960 For those of you who don't know, Maynard is actually my next door neighbor and my best 21 00:01:16,960 --> 00:01:17,960 friend. 22 00:01:17,960 --> 00:01:19,520 We do a lot of things together. 23 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:26,400 Yeah, we had dodged some rain the other night, had some good fire while, you know, in some 24 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,840 marshmallows and things like that and some beers. 25 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:33,800 Our kids, our kids play together and then I throw things over the fence from time to 26 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:34,800 time. 27 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:35,800 Yeah, yeah. 28 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,840 And your dog looks over at my cats and you know. 29 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,080 Yeah, my dog definitely wants to eat your cats. 30 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,080 That's for sure. 31 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,840 And summer is, you know, when everybody's out in the yard and all that stuff. 32 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,200 So there's a lot of shared experiences just between grilling. 33 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:52,840 Well, that's normally because you're out there grilling and then I just hear you shout, 34 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:53,840 Hey Sarge! 35 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:54,840 Yeah, pretty much. 36 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:55,840 I mean, how can I not? 37 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:56,840 I mean, I'm a good neighbor. 38 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:57,840 I got a reputation to live up to. 39 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:58,840 Yeah, well, of course. 40 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,800 And I like that one of our neighbors refers to us as Sarge and Maynard. 41 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:03,800 That's actually. 42 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:04,800 Yes, that's great. 43 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:05,800 He threw me off the first time. 44 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:06,800 Yeah, me too, because I'm like, what did he say? 45 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,200 And then I was like, oh shit, he knows our secret identities. 46 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,440 I guess we're also telling people that those aren't our real names. 47 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,000 Yeah, yeah, but that's okay. 48 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,000 That's all right. 49 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,200 Well, I don't think anyone thought my name was Sarge. 50 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,960 I don't think anyone thought I was born with that one. 51 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:25,200 My parents have a weird sense of humor. 52 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:32,200 All right, so we're going to talk a little bit about a very fun topic. 53 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,880 It's not going to be anything crazy. 54 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:35,880 Hang on a second. 55 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:36,880 The bird is still chirping. 56 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:37,880 Normally I quiet her. 57 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:38,880 Hold on. 58 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,880 All right, back in the game. 59 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,200 All right, so today's episode is going to be a fun one. 60 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,280 It has been a favorite story of mine ever since I was a little kid, but I didn't really 61 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,600 know the whole thing. 62 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:55,800 And so I did a deep dive because Dave handed over the reins to me. 63 00:02:55,800 --> 00:03:01,200 So after I'd broken his house, tried on his clothes, stole a pair of his underwear, sat 64 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:02,200 down and wrote the script. 65 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:03,200 It did not fit. 66 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:04,200 Did not fit. 67 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:05,560 He is significantly smaller than I am. 68 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,200 I am a fat man. 69 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,480 Okay, so here we go. 70 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:16,000 Maynard, how familiar are you with former president Jimmy Carter? 71 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,680 I mean, I know he's a former president. 72 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:25,200 He's probably one of the most generous people ever, like building houses for people literally. 73 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,080 I mean, I know he's still barely alive, right? 74 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,760 Well, no, no, I know what you mean. 75 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:31,960 I'll touch on that in a sec. 76 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:32,960 A lot has happened this year. 77 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:33,960 I'm like, I had to check. 78 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:34,960 I know. 79 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,320 We just lost Richard Simmons, Sharon Doherty and Dr. Roof. 80 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:39,320 Shannon. 81 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:40,320 That's what I said. 82 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:41,320 Oh, sorry. 83 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:42,320 No, no, Shannon Doherty. 84 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:43,320 Or maybe I did say Sharon. 85 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,320 I don't think I did, but I could have. 86 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:48,320 I could have. 87 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,040 Audience, settle that in the comments later. 88 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,280 So you're absolutely right. 89 00:03:54,280 --> 00:04:00,560 Jimmy Carter was America's 39th president and currently America's oldest living former 90 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,000 president not only today, but in all of American history. 91 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:12,560 So he was outlived every other American president, both physically and throughout history as 92 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:13,560 well. 93 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,320 Nobody's ever lived as long as he has. 94 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,320 So before his presidency, he was in the Navy. 95 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,320 He was a state senator in Georgia and the governor of Georgia. 96 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,360 And while much can be said of his former of former president Carter's time in the Oval 97 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:30,800 Office, good and bad, you know, depending on who's talking, his post presidential career 98 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:36,240 showed him to be an accomplished statesman, a tireless philanthropist. 99 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,760 But this is not a political podcast. 100 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:44,060 We are going to discuss his establishment of the Department of Energy or the Department 101 00:04:44,060 --> 00:04:45,540 of Education. 102 00:04:45,540 --> 00:04:47,240 We're here to discuss his policy. 103 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:48,240 We're not. 104 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:49,240 I'm sorry. 105 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,960 We're not here to discuss this policy of arming Pakistani Mujahideen after the Soviet invasion 106 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,720 of Afghanistan made him a boy. 107 00:04:55,720 --> 00:05:01,640 We're here to discuss Jimmy Carter, cryptid witness. 108 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:02,640 Say what? 109 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:03,640 Yeah. 110 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:04,640 All right. 111 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:05,640 Allow me to set the scene. 112 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:10,420 Every American president has a favorite vacation spot. 113 00:05:10,420 --> 00:05:16,520 President Clinton and Obama enjoyed the picturesque shores of Martha's Vineyard. 114 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:21,640 President George Bush, Sr. spent his time in Kennebunkport, Maine, and his son spent 115 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,760 time at his ranch in Texas. 116 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:30,400 But President Jimmy Carter, his vacation spot, was located in his hometown of Plains, Georgia. 117 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:31,960 You with me so far? 118 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:32,960 Mm hmm. 119 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:33,960 OK. 120 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:39,780 So thus, in April of 1979, a weary President Carter had taken a well-deserved break on 121 00:05:39,780 --> 00:05:42,460 his idyllic family farm. 122 00:05:42,460 --> 00:05:47,280 On Thursday, the 19th of April, the son warmed his tired body as he drifted in his flat bottom 123 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:48,280 fishing boat. 124 00:05:48,280 --> 00:05:51,240 The surface of the pond was relatively still in the light. 125 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:57,840 Spring breeze, save for the lazy ripples radiating from a baited hook patiently cast into its 126 00:05:57,840 --> 00:06:00,560 serene depths. 127 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:06,160 In this tranquil scene, President Carter likely sat pondering the complexities of American 128 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:07,880 politics. 129 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:13,560 The problems of the world and the weight of being the most powerful man in it. 130 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:20,040 He was facing increasingly hostile press, the spread of Soviet aggression, rising inflation, 131 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:24,560 and a looming energy crisis as the day wore on, the president stared at the calm waters, 132 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:30,080 allowing himself a brief moment of serenity before returning to the maelstrom of increasingly 133 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,880 chaotic reality. 134 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,240 There are many sounds that can be associated with the natural world. 135 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:42,160 The birds singing, the whine of a mosquito passes the ear, the lap of water as it meets 136 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:43,160 the shore. 137 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,080 It's easy to miss these sounds and moments of reflection, but some sounds, no matter 138 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:52,360 how quiet, can break through the silence and bring us back to our senses. 139 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:57,440 Such was the case on that tranquil pond on the afternoon of April 19th, 1979. 140 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:02,160 The sound of the water surface being broken drew the President Carter out of his quiet 141 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:03,160 reflection. 142 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:09,200 Perhaps, he thought, it was a fish betraying its location, or a turtle seeking safety in 143 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,200 the murky depths. 144 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,880 There are any number of things that would cause little more than a glance before we 145 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:19,280 return to our contemplation, but this was not the case. 146 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:25,760 On that day instead, President Carter witnessed the malevolent splash of a waterborne demon. 147 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:26,760 What? 148 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:27,760 Oh yeah. 149 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,840 This shit's about to get real, bro. 150 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:30,840 Waterborne demon? 151 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,800 Alright, listen man, I wrote this, so I took a little bit of artistic license, but I think 152 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,640 you get the gist of what I'm saying. 153 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:38,640 Alright? 154 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:39,640 Okay. 155 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:44,920 Confused by the impossible thing he was seeing, President Carter twisted his body to face 156 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:46,460 the oncoming threat. 157 00:07:46,460 --> 00:07:50,640 The creature rose above the wake, its ears pinned back in steely determination. 158 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:55,800 Bearing its teeth, the creature moved with surprising grace and speed, its eyes flashed 159 00:07:55,800 --> 00:08:00,880 with the cold intensity of a determined predator stalking its prey. 160 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:06,760 From the depths of its infernal soul, a guttural hiss issued forth, piercing the human Georgia 161 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:07,760 air. 162 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,960 Stunned for a moment, President Carter's mind raced. 163 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,160 What the hell was he seeing? 164 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:19,280 How is it possible that this creature could be bearing down on him with such passionate 165 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:20,280 tenacity? 166 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,100 Quickly, President Carter returned to his senses. 167 00:08:23,100 --> 00:08:27,880 Every human bears the capacity to defend themselves under the right circumstances. 168 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:32,520 From the days when humans were little more than small mammals evading the cunning brutality 169 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:37,120 of larger beasts, when cornered, humankind can fight if needed. 170 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:43,040 Calling back in the primal ferocity honed through generations of surviving the vast 171 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:48,760 array of threats nature has cultivated, President Carter reached for the nearest weapon. 172 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:53,240 Adrenaline surged through his veins as his calloused hands gripped the smooth wooden 173 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:54,240 shaft of the ore. 174 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:59,320 While not a perfect weapon in the traditional sense, many men have done far more with far 175 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:00,320 less. 176 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:06,280 The creature bore down in the water, its resolve undeterred by the brave former sailor. 177 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:10,360 Carter braced himself and wielded the makeshift cudgel as his primitive ancestors had done 178 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:11,800 before him. 179 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,720 The distance between the President and his would-be challenger closed quickly, but it 180 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,000 felt like ages. 181 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:21,560 You see, soldiers have referred to moments like these throughout history. 182 00:09:21,560 --> 00:09:28,000 Mere moments in time feel like eternity as minds prepare for trial by combat. 183 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,640 Senses are heightened. 184 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,900 Every color is brightened. 185 00:09:31,900 --> 00:09:33,680 Every sound is amplified. 186 00:09:33,680 --> 00:09:37,000 Every smell is overwhelming. 187 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,920 And the skin shivers as nerves twitch with anticipation. 188 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,640 The creature reached striking distance with an alarming agility, but the President was 189 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:45,640 ready. 190 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:50,680 He brought the ore down mightily, its force multiplied by the sheer will to survive. 191 00:09:50,680 --> 00:09:55,160 The rising torrent buried the creature beneath the waves. 192 00:09:55,160 --> 00:10:00,200 The President's chest heaved, his lungs greedily drew in air, his muscles tightened, his blood 193 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,800 coursed through his veins like a swollen river. 194 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:04,800 The creature retreated. 195 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:10,440 Its body trembled as it desperately tried to escape the threat posed by a man with nothing 196 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,880 left to lose. 197 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:19,480 Weeks later, President Carter, back on a chair at the White House, while surrounded by security, 198 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:24,000 he was constantly reminded of what transpired on that fateful spring afternoon. 199 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:28,560 He quietly sipped from his glass of fresh lemonade, which somehow tasted a little sweeter 200 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:31,480 now that he had almost tasted death. 201 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,600 At first, no one believed President Carter. 202 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:39,100 His closest aides whispered amongst themselves about the improbability of a man facing such 203 00:10:39,100 --> 00:10:42,280 a threat in the modern age. 204 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,400 This was the tale of the bygone era. 205 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:49,640 Men rarely met a creature capable of dispatching them in the late 20th century. 206 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,600 However, all the rumors would be silenced by the contents of the envelope sitting on 207 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,080 President Carter's lap. 208 00:10:55,080 --> 00:11:00,160 In it were high resolution photos captured by the White House photographer. 209 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:04,840 The initial images were unclear, so the President demanded all resources necessary be allocated 210 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,480 for the amplification of the footage. 211 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:13,040 The President rested his glass on the table and slid out one of the photos. 212 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:21,120 There he was in all his glory, the paddle held high, ready to drop on the ghastly form 213 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,720 of the killer swamp rabbit of Sumter County. 214 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,480 The killer swamp rabbit? 215 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:34,520 So this is clearly a little bit of satire. 216 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:42,320 So there is a very famous photo of Jimmy Carter standing on his flat bottom boat. 217 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:46,280 I did do research and find out what the weather was in Georgia because I wanted to create 218 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,380 a rich storytelling environment. 219 00:11:49,380 --> 00:11:50,920 So I hope I was able to accomplish that. 220 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,120 I hope I kept you with rapt attention. 221 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,560 Oh, definitely. 222 00:11:55,560 --> 00:12:01,840 There literally was a swamp rabbit in its swim at Carter's boat. 223 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,920 And it wasn't a big deal. 224 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:05,320 Like he didn't make a big deal out of it. 225 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:09,240 He just splashed the water with the oar to get the rabbit to jog on because the rabbit 226 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:10,520 was behaving strangely. 227 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:14,320 It was kind of gnashing its teeth and stuff like that. 228 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,120 So apparently the rabbit swam to shore. 229 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,240 But for some reason, the White House photographer took a picture. 230 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,440 And for some even worse reason, I don't know why Carter needed this, but he asked for the 231 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,560 photo because no one believed him. 232 00:12:26,560 --> 00:12:33,320 Now, the problem was the media got a hold of this story and begged him to release the 233 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:34,320 photos. 234 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:35,320 Yeah. 235 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:36,320 Yeah. 236 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:37,320 Right. 237 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:38,320 The media. 238 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:39,320 Wow. 239 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:40,320 The media ruined something again. 240 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:41,440 And he's like, no, you know, you don't need you don't need it. 241 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:42,440 It's not a big deal. 242 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:47,560 Now, I'm not saying that this is what killed Carter's presidency, but it did become a massive, 243 00:12:47,560 --> 00:12:52,040 massive joke in the media that he was assaulted by a killer rabbit. 244 00:12:52,040 --> 00:13:00,760 Now to tell you how far this crazy mythology went, when I was a boy, my father told me 245 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:06,800 this story, but in the story that he told me, he said Carter basically said he was chased 246 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:11,400 by like a man sized rabbit while he was fishing in a pond. 247 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,400 Well, that's what it sounded like in your story. 248 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:15,400 Right. 249 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:20,040 Because that's how everybody made it sound is that Jimmy Carter is crazy and thought 250 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,820 he was being chased by a man sized rabbit. 251 00:13:22,820 --> 00:13:25,560 But when you see the picture, I don't know if you found it. 252 00:13:25,560 --> 00:13:26,560 I can try and bring it up. 253 00:13:26,560 --> 00:13:27,640 I just looked it up. 254 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:28,640 It's hilarious, right? 255 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:29,640 Because it's just a little rabbit. 256 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,320 But they made such a big deal out of it. 257 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:33,320 Rabbits get swim. 258 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:34,320 Yeah. 259 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:39,280 And if you Google the story, there's like tons of stories about it, sensationalizing 260 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:40,280 it in some ways. 261 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,520 And most of them were skewering him. 262 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,280 But just a cursory glance and you're like, oh, wow, that really did happen. 263 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:46,680 He was chased by a rabbit. 264 00:13:46,680 --> 00:13:50,440 But even Carter himself was like, no, it's just trying to get out of the water. 265 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:54,240 I just didn't want it in my boat because I didn't know if it had rabies or something. 266 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:55,240 Yeah. 267 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:59,200 Like anything a normal human being would do in that scenario. 268 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:00,200 Yeah. 269 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:06,720 But then to add insult to injury, Ronald Reagan shortly thereafter, after he became president, 270 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,040 released the photo. 271 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:14,920 So now it's even crazier because people already had it in their minds that that Jimmy Carter 272 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,760 was being attacked by a rabbit. 273 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,800 And now they see the photo of him swinging the oar at this little tiny rabbit that was 274 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,720 probably, you know, just trying to get out of the water. 275 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,500 And it's just it's the worst. 276 00:14:27,500 --> 00:14:29,800 But it's absolutely being railroaded. 277 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,240 But for the longest time, I thought I thought that Jimmy Carter really believed he was being 278 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,400 attacked by a man size rabbit. 279 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:37,400 That's insane. 280 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:38,920 Can you imagine how that would have rolled out with the Internet? 281 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:40,480 Oh, God, it would have been a disaster. 282 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,240 It would have been an absolute. 283 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,320 Imagine the memes like, oh, they would have been. 284 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:46,880 It'd be horrible. 285 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,200 Now we're not done with President Carter. 286 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,880 Oh, no, my friend, there is more to go. 287 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:56,000 You see, President Carter wasn't just our first cryptid witness. 288 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,400 He is also the first president to admit that he saw aliens. 289 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,200 Well, I shouldn't say aliens. 290 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,240 I should say UFO. 291 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:06,520 So I'm bringing it up right now. 292 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,720 Something you know what it was. 293 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:09,720 Yeah, exactly. 294 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:10,720 Exactly. 295 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:17,280 So in 1969, two years before he became the governor of Georgia, Carter was prepared preparing 296 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,720 to give a speech at the Lions Club. 297 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:26,400 And a little after seven, one of the guests called his attention to a bright white object 298 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,520 about as bright as the moon. 299 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,480 And it was about 30 degrees above the horizon to the west where they were standing. 300 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,200 This is from the Wikipedia page. 301 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,680 I didn't think it warranted being put in a script. 302 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,900 It would have taken a long time to just write this when I could just say it. 303 00:15:41,900 --> 00:15:47,160 So it moved toward the direction but stopped beyond a stand of pine trees some distance 304 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:48,160 from them. 305 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:52,200 The object then changed color first to blue, then to red, then back to white before appearing 306 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,120 to recede into the distance. 307 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:59,000 Carter felt that the object was self illuminated and not solid in nature. 308 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,120 I don't really know what that means. 309 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:06,000 I don't know if he thought it was like a like a phosphorescent cloud. 310 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,000 Right. 311 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:11,000 Carter's report indicated that it was witnessed by about 10 or 12 people and it was in view 312 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,920 for 10 to 12 minutes. 313 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:18,000 Now in 1973, he says there are about 20 of us standing outside of a little restaurant. 314 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,440 I believe a high school lunchroom. 315 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,960 So that's not a restaurant, but okay. 316 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,080 And a kind of green light appeared in the western sky. 317 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:26,080 It was right after sundown. 318 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:30,680 It got brighter and brighter and then it eventually disappeared. 319 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,560 It didn't have any solid substance to it. 320 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,520 It was just a very peculiar looking light. 321 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,240 None of us could understand what it was. 322 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:42,080 And then in 2005, he said all of a sudden one of the men looked up and said, look over 323 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:43,080 in the west. 324 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:44,080 And there was a bright light in the sky. 325 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:45,080 We all saw it. 326 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,120 And then the light got closer and closer to us. 327 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:49,120 And then it stopped. 328 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,000 I don't know how far away, but it stopped beyond the pine trees. 329 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:56,440 All of a sudden it changed color to blue and then changed to red and back to white. 330 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,680 And we were all trying to figure out what in the world it could be. 331 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,960 And then it receded into the distance. 332 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:08,960 So they say that in 1976, there was an investigation into this, which seems kind of crazy to me. 333 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,760 Like they even bothered to look into it. 334 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,760 And then, this is really bad for Jimmy Carter. 335 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,880 Most people present at the meeting did not recall the event, or did not recall it being 336 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:20,880 anything important. 337 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,960 So it's really embarrassing. 338 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,920 Oh no. 339 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:30,520 According to Fred Hart, the only guest contacted who remembered seeing the object, he said 340 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:36,160 it seemed like there was like, this is so bad, seems like there was a little like blue 341 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:40,240 light or something on the other or other in the sky that night. 342 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,920 Like some kind of weather balloon they send out or something. 343 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,440 It's been pretty far back in my mind. 344 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:45,440 Wow. 345 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:46,440 Yeah. 346 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:47,440 Sorry, Jimmy. 347 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:48,440 Yeah, it's really embarrassing. 348 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,840 Really, really embarrassing. 349 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,000 But when you think about what the guy said, he's like, oh, it might have been like a, 350 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,920 I don't know, weather balloon or something. 351 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,080 That makes me think like, like who got involved there? 352 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,880 Is the men in black a part of that or am I just crazy? 353 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:02,880 Am I crazy? 354 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:03,880 I'm probably crazy. 355 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:04,880 Yes. 356 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,200 As soon as weather balloon starts getting thrown in, you're like, all right, someone's 357 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:08,200 trying to cast them down. 358 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,200 Yeah, right. 359 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:13,040 Like, did somebody pay them off to not talk? 360 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,440 I mean, I can't imagine that's the case. 361 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:20,360 I'm sure it was just like a weird thing and they all just forgot about it. 362 00:18:20,360 --> 00:18:24,680 But it's weird that Carter remembered it so vividly and everyone else was like, nah, Jim's 363 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:25,680 just weird. 364 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:26,680 It's like magic. 365 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:27,680 Don't worry about it. 366 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:31,560 And of course, the rabbit situation doesn't help, right? 367 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:32,560 No. 368 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,360 Jimmy Carter had some problems. 369 00:18:34,360 --> 00:18:38,600 He had some problems in his presidency as well, because we're not going to talk about 370 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:45,160 the political side of things, but he did do an interview with Playboy and he famously 371 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,760 said that he had lust in his heart in Playboy. 372 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:49,760 Wow. 373 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:50,760 Problematic. 374 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:51,760 Jimmy. 375 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:52,760 Yeah. 376 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,360 He also had a crazy brother who just kept doing dumb shit. 377 00:18:55,360 --> 00:18:57,360 I don't know if you've ever heard of Billy Beer. 378 00:18:57,360 --> 00:18:58,360 Who's his brother? 379 00:18:58,360 --> 00:18:59,360 Oh, yeah, yeah. 380 00:18:59,360 --> 00:19:00,360 Billy Beer. 381 00:19:00,360 --> 00:19:01,360 Yeah. 382 00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:02,360 Yep. 383 00:19:02,360 --> 00:19:03,360 Yeah, totally. 384 00:19:03,360 --> 00:19:07,040 So for those of you who don't know, I thought I'd talk about it for a second. 385 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,240 This would be a little fun history lesson. 386 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:13,640 Billy Beer is a brand of beer first made in the United States in July 1977 by the Fall 387 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:14,640 City Brewing Company. 388 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,640 It was promoted by Billy Carter, whose older brother, Jimmy Carter, was then president 389 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,960 of the United States in October 1979. 390 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:26,080 Fall City announced that it was closing after less than a year. 391 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,560 The beer lasted less than a year. 392 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:30,560 That's pretty bad. 393 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,520 I saw a can of that at an antique store in New Hampshire one time. 394 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,120 I was like, what is Billy Beer? 395 00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:36,120 Oh, you did? 396 00:19:36,120 --> 00:19:37,120 I was. 397 00:19:37,120 --> 00:19:39,920 Oh, I would really want one of those. 398 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,760 Apparently on the can, it would say brewed expressly for and with the personal approval 399 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:49,320 of one of America's all time great beer drinkers, Billy Carter. 400 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,680 Had this beer brewed up just for me. 401 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,160 I think it's the best I've ever tasted and I've tasted a lot. 402 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:56,560 I think you like it, too. 403 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,680 Probably not the best thing that the brother of a president could say. 404 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,320 Yeah, I've got pound beers all the time. 405 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:03,320 Made my own. 406 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:04,320 You're going to love it. 407 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:05,640 Yeah, that's rough. 408 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,880 What a rough situation. 409 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,240 So yes, that's President Carter's situation. 410 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:11,480 I feel bad for him. 411 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,280 That's pretty savage. 412 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,040 When you think of all the things that he's accomplished in his post presidential career, 413 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,760 it feels so bad for him. 414 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:19,760 Yeah. 415 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:28,560 And then I hope that the more stuff that he's done afterwards is what he goes down as being 416 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:29,560 for. 417 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:30,560 Yeah, I mean, I think that will be. 418 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,120 I mean, he did do some great things as president and then he had some scandals like every president 419 00:20:34,120 --> 00:20:35,120 does. 420 00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:39,160 I think ultimately, he'll be remembered for all the great stuff he did. 421 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:45,160 But yeah, that's my story, President Carter and the killer rabbit, the were rabbit, I 422 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:46,880 almost want to say. 423 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:52,080 And as someone who really genuinely didn't know the rabbit story, I'm like, okay, where 424 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,080 are you going with this? 425 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,760 Because I don't really think this is like this. 426 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,520 Is this Hawkins, Indiana? 427 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,120 Was this Stranger Things? 428 00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:03,280 Was a Demogorgon jumping out onto the boat? 429 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:04,280 I know. 430 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,480 It's such a weird story. 431 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,920 And it's so weird that the press made such a big deal out of it. 432 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,480 Like imagine the president was just out in a boat and a rabbit swam by and he like kind 433 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,800 of pushed it away with an oar like nobody would care. 434 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,880 Well, yeah, the press was just so different back. 435 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,560 Yeah, they were looking for a reason to lambaste the guy. 436 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,200 Yeah, because like inflation was getting kind of bad. 437 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:23,680 Now they just make up stuff. 438 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:24,680 Yeah. 439 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,600 So they either make up stuff or they take like a nothing burger story and report on 440 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:29,840 it for months. 441 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,880 Or just release half a quote so they can talk about it out of context. 442 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:34,880 Yeah, exactly. 443 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:35,880 All right. 444 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,160 Well, that's all I got. 445 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,400 Maynard, do you have anything you want to promote? 446 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:40,400 Maybe a social media? 447 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:47,240 You can find me on Twitter and Instagram and threads. 448 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:48,240 Yeah. 449 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:49,960 TikTok at Maynard rules. 450 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,160 All one word, no underscores or anything. 451 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,360 Maynard is spelled with an E, by the way. 452 00:21:56,360 --> 00:21:58,760 And rules is spelled with a Z. 453 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,320 May and a nerd. 454 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,680 No, just an S. 455 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:02,680 Oh, yeah. 456 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:03,680 So Maynard rules. 457 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,840 And then of course, you'll find me at SajahDestroyer. 458 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:13,520 There's a link on the Cryptid Cocktail Party Instagram where you can find all my stuff, 459 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,640 all Dave's stuff. 460 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:20,920 And if you haven't already, go to Sajah Supernormal, pick up a copy of my coloring book, 999. 461 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:21,920 Yes. 462 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:22,920 Can't go wrong. 463 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,520 It's 50 pages of joy. 464 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:25,520 Got mine over here. 465 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,720 You did a great job coloring yourself, by the way. 466 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:28,720 Yeah, like, you know, I try. 467 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:29,720 Yeah, it looks so good. 468 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:30,720 Get in the camera. 469 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:31,720 Yeah. 470 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,720 Get some nice, nice colored pencils. 471 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:40,080 10, 10 to 15 minutes of just unadulterated, leave me alone, I'm coloring time. 472 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,080 That's why I did it. 473 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:42,400 That's exactly why I did it. 474 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,200 You just need that time to just kind of chill and come. 475 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,200 Not think about anything else. 476 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,200 It is. 477 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,200 All right. 478 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:49,960 Well, thank you all for listening. 479 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,360 You guys, I love you very much. 480 00:22:52,360 --> 00:22:53,480 Be easy. 481 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,520 Go easy on President Jimmy Carter. 482 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:04,040 And I love you.