1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:22,480 Hey everybody! 2 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,600 Welcome back to another episode of Cryptic Cocktail Party, a show where we have a few 3 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,840 drinks, share a few laughs, take a dive into the unknown. 4 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:33,080 I'm your host Dave and today I'm joined by someone who is a self-described Southie 2 5 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:34,080 Sarge of Destroyer. 6 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:35,080 What's going on bud? 7 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:39,080 I am a Southie 2. 8 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:40,080 That's fair. 9 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,680 I heard you say that yesterday when I was listening to your new episode and I was like 10 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:44,920 I gotta use that as the intro. 11 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:45,920 It's so fucking good. 12 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:51,680 But hey, to me, you're a P-Town 8. 13 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,200 I'm a Nashua 10. 14 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,640 That's so fucking true. 15 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,120 Manchester 9 maybe. 16 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:59,840 I'll give you a Manchester 9. 17 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:00,840 Yep, Manchester 9. 18 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,440 Oh my god, Portsmouth, I'm a 1 if I'm lucky. 19 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,960 Oh dude, so I lived in Dover right next to Portsmouth. 20 00:01:07,960 --> 00:01:10,160 Even I don't feel good going there. 21 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:11,160 Yeah, yeah. 22 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:12,160 What's going on bud? 23 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:13,160 How you doing? 24 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:14,160 I'm good. 25 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:18,600 I just came back from a midsummer festival. 26 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:19,600 Yeah? 27 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:25,760 Yeah, I saw my daughter making one of those flower crowns and I decided maybe this would 28 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:33,400 be a good time to leave, to move on before we start burning down a large wooden building 29 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,440 and pushing old people off a cliff. 30 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:41,440 Yeah dude, it's a spoiler alert by the way for those of you who haven't seen a movie 31 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,080 that came out 10 years ago. 32 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,840 I was going to say, I think people will be fine. 33 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,760 I loved that movie the first time I watched it. 34 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:55,000 I was like, oh yeah, no, this sounds very Scandinavian, everything that's happening 35 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,240 like throughout the entire movie, I was like very Scandinavian. 36 00:01:58,240 --> 00:01:59,240 Yeah. 37 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:06,520 My, my father is Norwegian and Swedish, so it's very. 38 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:12,080 The one thing about those like 824 like horror movies though, like hereditary midsummer, 39 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,240 I think the witch is also like one of those is that you can only watch them once. 40 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,840 Like I mean, I've watched, I've watched, I've watched midsummer a few, I can't watch, I 41 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,520 can't watch the descendants more than, is it descendants? 42 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:25,520 The descent? 43 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:30,920 Which is, which is the one where the little kid gets decapitated like four seconds in. 44 00:02:30,920 --> 00:02:31,920 Hereditary? 45 00:02:31,920 --> 00:02:32,920 The little sister? 46 00:02:32,920 --> 00:02:33,920 Hereditary. 47 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:34,920 I don't know why I'm saying descendants. 48 00:02:34,920 --> 00:02:35,920 Hereditary, I can only watch. 49 00:02:35,920 --> 00:02:40,640 Hereditary descendants is kind of like, it's kind of the same in a way. 50 00:02:40,640 --> 00:02:41,640 Kind of, right? 51 00:02:41,640 --> 00:02:44,800 So I can only watch her hereditary once. 52 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,040 I mean, you can watch them multiple times, but you're going to, you, but once you know 53 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:49,640 what's going on, it's like, meh. 54 00:02:49,640 --> 00:02:50,640 I don't know. 55 00:02:50,640 --> 00:02:52,720 I really love the ending and midsummer. 56 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,760 I just think it's like the coolest ending. 57 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,640 I loved the witch. 58 00:02:58,640 --> 00:03:01,160 I thought that was a phenomenal movie. 59 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:02,160 I love the witch. 60 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:08,760 If we're going to talk about amazing endings to horror movies, there's only one that actually 61 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,200 matters and I've been saying this for fucking years. 62 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,640 The best ending to any horror movie ever is The Mist. 63 00:03:15,640 --> 00:03:16,640 Hands down. 64 00:03:16,640 --> 00:03:17,640 Oh yeah. 65 00:03:17,640 --> 00:03:18,640 The best. 66 00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:24,200 Like the ending is so fucking just like, oh, you're so close. 67 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,080 You were so close and you just fucking murdered everyone. 68 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,480 The ending of The Mist is like the story of my life. 69 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:35,520 Just in terms of like, I'm almost always fucking myself over. 70 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:41,400 Yeah, but are you fucking yourself over to the point where you're metaphorically murdering 71 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,000 everyone in the fucking car? 72 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,760 Because I'm afraid of them being enveloped by a mist. 73 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,920 No, I haven't done that yet, but there's still time. 74 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,560 Dude, I remember when that movie first came out. 75 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:58,320 I went to theaters to see it and when they're driving down like 95 and I kept seeing signs 76 00:03:58,320 --> 00:03:59,520 like, I know that highway sign. 77 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:04,440 I know that highway sign. 78 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:09,560 But then they re-released it in black and white and I don't know why, but for some reason, 79 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:10,560 so much better. 80 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:11,560 Oh yeah. 81 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:12,560 So much better. 82 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:13,560 Oh yeah. 83 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:14,560 I think it's because the CGI doesn't look as trash. 84 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:19,920 Like there's that one scene where the tentacle comes out underneath like the door and it 85 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,400 just looks so bad. 86 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:22,800 But anyways. 87 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:27,160 I know we've got a whole podcast to record, but while we're on the subject of horror movies, 88 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,280 I have an unpopular opinion and I think we're probably going to lose some followers for 89 00:04:30,280 --> 00:04:32,960 this, but I have to say it. 90 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:37,880 The 1990 remake of Night of the Living Dead is as good as the original. 91 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:38,880 I'll take it. 92 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:39,880 It is. 93 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:40,880 It's just as good. 94 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,880 It's not better, but there's no way it's worse. 95 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:49,960 No, but also, yeah, I don't. 96 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,800 I mean, Romero was involved with it. 97 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,720 Toby Hooper directed it. 98 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,920 I mean, it's just so good. 99 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:57,920 I'm going to be honest. 100 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,440 I liked Zack Snyder's Dawn of the Dead. 101 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:01,520 I thought that was really good. 102 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,200 I didn't mind that the zombies ran. 103 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:04,400 I didn't give a fuck. 104 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:05,400 The one, the fucking- 105 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:06,680 Yeah, that didn't bother me at all. 106 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,960 That made them scarier to me because they move faster. 107 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:09,960 Yeah. 108 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:14,680 And then the pregnant lady who fucking dies because the zombie baby was inside of her 109 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:15,680 and fucking- 110 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:16,680 Oh, holy shit. 111 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:17,680 Yeah. 112 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:18,680 So good. 113 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:19,680 That was horrifying. 114 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:24,320 And like, I think people get mad about fast zombies and I'm like, you're mad that they're 115 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:25,320 scarier? 116 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:26,320 I don't understand. 117 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:27,320 Yeah. 118 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:28,320 Way more terrifying. 119 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:29,320 And it also makes way more sense. 120 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:30,320 But also- 121 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:31,320 Yeah. 122 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,520 And if you watch like South Korean, there's a good South Korean zombie movie called Train 123 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:36,520 to Busan. 124 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:37,520 Oh, man. 125 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:38,520 That sounds crazy to me. 126 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:39,520 Those zombies. 127 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,640 It's so good. 128 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,200 There's a sequel that I haven't seen because I can't find it anywhere. 129 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:48,480 I'm sure it's just because I'm lazy and don't want to pay for it. 130 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,840 So I haven't found it because I wasn't looking in the right places. 131 00:05:52,840 --> 00:05:57,800 The first one is usually on Netflix and it is fucking terrifying. 132 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:58,800 All right. 133 00:05:58,800 --> 00:05:59,800 I'll have to check that. 134 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,080 In the ending, it's just a kick in the balls. 135 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,480 It's almost as difficult as the mist. 136 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,960 See, I love- That's the thing with me. 137 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:12,600 I love horror movies that end on just the most bummer of notes. 138 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:13,760 You know what I mean? 139 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,760 Not even to horror movies, just movies in general where you think the good guy is going 140 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:22,400 to win and they're almost there and then it's just, nope, fucking donezo. 141 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:27,000 I'm not talking about the end of Freddy movies when everyone's driving away and then the 142 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:31,520 mom gets ripped through the- I'm talking about real life fucking consequences that are just 143 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:32,520 dumb. 144 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:33,520 Like fucking Midnight Meat Train. 145 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,360 You ever see that movie? 146 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,800 It sounds like the name of a sex tape. 147 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:41,800 It kind of is. 148 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:46,560 It's got fucking Bradley Cooper and that's all you need to know. 149 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,400 And there's Mole Men under this dude. 150 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,920 It's bonkers, but- Now I need to see this. 151 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:54,920 You really do. 152 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,360 Now I need to know about this movie. 153 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:57,360 So good. 154 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:58,360 Midnight Meat. 155 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:03,240 And it also has- Who's that dude from like, I think it's Gone in 60 Seconds, the one that's 156 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,600 always quiet, big, tall, lurch looking motherfucker. 157 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,200 Oh God, that's everybody in Hollywood. 158 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:09,760 I'll send you a pic. 159 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:10,760 We'll figure it out. 160 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,280 But he's the Midnight Meat Train guy. 161 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,480 I'm not going to explain the whole movie. 162 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:15,480 I'm going to look it up. 163 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:16,480 I'm going to look it up on IMDB. 164 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,880 I was about to explain the whole movie to you, but I realized we're like eight minutes 165 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,280 in and we haven't even come close to starting to talk about what we're talking about. 166 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:24,600 Not what this podcast is about. 167 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,320 People are tuning in for the first time like, I thought this was supposed to be about cryptids. 168 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:29,960 What is happening right now? 169 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,960 We could do a podcast where it's us half remembering horror movies. 170 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:38,680 And trying to explain the plot. 171 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,600 A brief synopsis based on what I remember after a night of drinking. 172 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,240 It's got Bradley Cooper and the guy from Gone in 60 Seconds. 173 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,200 And there's a train and then there's meat. 174 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,440 It's fucked up. 175 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:49,440 That's all you need to know. 176 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:53,120 Well, I mean, like the worst part is Gone in 60 Seconds has like 20 guys and you just 177 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:54,760 described half of them. 178 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:55,760 He's the one that doesn't talk. 179 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,720 Like they call him up on the phone and he answers the phone and they're like- 180 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,240 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 181 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:02,680 I know who you're talking about now. 182 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,640 I couldn't, I don't know what else he's in. 183 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,760 But I mean, I feel like it's always Vinnie Jones. 184 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:08,760 I think that's who it is. 185 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,160 That like British soccer player. 186 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:11,160 That's who it is. 187 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,160 Yes. 188 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:13,160 Yeah. 189 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:14,840 I didn't know he was a soccer player, but I always expected him to be like a hooligan. 190 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,320 Like you could see him just fucking someone up after a game. 191 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:21,360 I'm pretty sure he used to be a soccer player, but excuse me. 192 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,720 He played footy as they say in England. 193 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:24,720 All right. 194 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,880 Well, we're in America so why don't you fucking tighten it up, bud? 195 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,280 Get your house in order. 196 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:29,280 Calm down. 197 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,600 Now that our women's team is the best in the world, we can call it whatever we want. 198 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:33,600 Exactly. 199 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,920 Oh, I was about to go into the tangent. 200 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:36,920 I can't do it. 201 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:37,920 We're not doing this now. 202 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:38,920 All right. 203 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:39,920 No, we're not doing this. 204 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:41,080 So I have to get back to the. 205 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:42,360 This is a show about cryptids. 206 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:43,360 I promise you. 207 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:44,360 It is. 208 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,480 But unfortunately for you today, we're going to be moving away from cryptids and we're going 209 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:47,480 to cover something a little different. 210 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,840 This is a show about weird shit and we're doing it. 211 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,880 We're going to be covering a case of possible mass hysteria. 212 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:59,080 Now mass hysteria is a word thrown around a lot and I'm not quite sure a ton of people 213 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:00,080 know what it means. 214 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,040 I think I like dumb people on the Internet use it to like explain it like Covid. 215 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:05,520 It's like the far right things. 216 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:09,080 Covid was a case of mass hysteria with the mass and all that shit. 217 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,120 Or even like right when there was like all the the protests, like the George Floyd protests, 218 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:17,200 like that was just a case of mass hysteria, not people wanting basic human rights. 219 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:22,800 But dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria. 220 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:30,900 But in reality, that's not what it is, mass hysteria or mass psychogenic illness is defined 221 00:09:30,900 --> 00:09:35,060 as the spreading of illness like symptoms through a population where there is no infectious 222 00:09:35,060 --> 00:09:37,680 agent responsible for the contagion. 223 00:09:37,680 --> 00:09:41,200 Basically meaning one person sees something doing something weird and a lot of anxiety 224 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,780 in the town and then they just fucking do the same thing. 225 00:09:43,780 --> 00:09:48,160 Some prime examples of mass hysteria would be the dancing plague of 1518. 226 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,940 We're in Strasbourg, France, a man named Frau Trofea. 227 00:09:50,940 --> 00:09:52,360 I think I pronounced that right. 228 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,960 He just started dancing in the streets and then within a month over 400 people joined 229 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:02,040 in like day and night couldn't stop dancing, just fucking cutting a rug until they physically 230 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,520 couldn't anymore. 231 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,840 With some even dying due to strokes, heart attacks and exhaustion. 232 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:18,880 Yeah, my understanding is they had boogie fever. 233 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:37,280 Another example is the Tanganyaka laughing epidemic of 1962 in the area now known as 234 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,240 in Tanzania or what is now Tanzania. 235 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:45,280 This happened a year after Tanzania gained its independence from England, which is fucking 236 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:51,400 wild that that was in the 60s because I assumed the entire fall. 237 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:57,920 It blows my mind like how long England hung on to some places like Canada. 238 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,280 They're still involved with Canada and Australia. 239 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:01,720 The Queen is on their money. 240 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:02,720 I think yeah. 241 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:08,280 But anyways, schools there had to be shut down sometimes for weeks when dozens of schoolgirls 242 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,280 started laughing and couldn't stop. 243 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:15,840 By the time the epidemic had subsided, over 1000 people were laughing uncontrollably with 244 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,680 some of the students also suffering from rashes, fainting and respiratory problems. 245 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:22,640 I'm assuming because if you're just laughing constantly, your fucking whole shit is going 246 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:23,640 to get ruined. 247 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:24,640 I don't know. 248 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:25,640 Yeah. 249 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:26,640 Oh yeah. 250 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:27,640 No, you're going to you're going to suffocate. 251 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:28,640 Your muscles are going to hurt after a while. 252 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:29,640 Your face. 253 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,680 I mean, your your cheeks are going to hurt from smiling. 254 00:11:32,680 --> 00:11:35,760 Yeah, I'm sure the capillaries in your eye, like you just fucking like everything. 255 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,640 But also at the same time, it could have been one of those things. 256 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,800 And I don't know why I was like, you know, when you were like 12 at a sleepover and you're 257 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:47,040 trying to sleep and then one person starts laughing and then you start laughing and then 258 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,040 just game over. 259 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,100 But then like everyone stops laughing. 260 00:11:50,100 --> 00:11:52,760 But then you start laughing again because of the laugh. 261 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:53,760 It's like one of those things. 262 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:54,760 It could have been that. 263 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:55,760 Yeah. 264 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:56,760 Yeah. 265 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:57,760 Laughter is contagious. 266 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:58,760 It's entirely possible. 267 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,920 It makes us all happy, you know, and this one instance laughter was not the best medicine. 268 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,160 No, no, because people almost died. 269 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:06,680 People got hurt. 270 00:12:06,680 --> 00:12:11,440 Now, the most the most famous case of mass hysteria and one that hits close to home to 271 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,360 both Sarge and I is, of course, the Salem witch trials. 272 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:16,500 Citizens guide to the supernormal. 273 00:12:16,500 --> 00:12:19,200 We did like three episodes on it. 274 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:24,340 One of them's real boring and I apologize, but we covered it in depth. 275 00:12:24,340 --> 00:12:26,160 We did fucking research. 276 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,160 Yeah. 277 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:28,160 So I'm not going to go. 278 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:29,160 Which is rare. 279 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,560 I'm not going to go and bore everyone with the details of this because I'm like, I'm 280 00:12:31,560 --> 00:12:35,760 a hundred percent sure that everyone listening to this is probably familiar with the Salem 281 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,720 witch trials, but it was super fucked up and resulted in the deaths of 14 women and five 282 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:40,720 men. 283 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:45,240 Now, luckily, the story we're going to cover today, no one died or suffered from any long 284 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,160 term effects, at least not like physically. 285 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,360 I'm sure like mentally this kind of fucked everything up. 286 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:55,120 Today we're going to be covering the Mad Gasser of Mattoon, the name given to the person or 287 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:59,880 persons that were responsible for over a dozen gas attacks that took place in Mattoon, Illinois 288 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:00,880 in 1944. 289 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,280 Are you familiar with this? 290 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:06,440 Were they just going with the most cartoony sounding name possible? 291 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,160 Well, the Mad Gasser of Mattoon. 292 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,520 Well, it's Mattoon, Illinois where it took place. 293 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:12,520 He was called the Mad Gasser. 294 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:17,160 He was also called the Mad Anesthesiologist, which I think is kind of fucking cool. 295 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,320 It is, but it's too many syllables. 296 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:20,320 True. 297 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,720 And also I feel like you could have made it in the alliteration. 298 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,280 Like I feel like there's something there. 299 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,840 You could have done better. 300 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,320 But yeah, the angry anesthesiologist. 301 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,040 Actually, that might be what it was. 302 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:35,040 I don't know. 303 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:36,040 I don't think it was. 304 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:37,040 I didn't write it down. 305 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,040 The Mad Gasser of Mattoon to me is the best name, so I chose that one. 306 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:46,480 What's killing me about the original name though is that they were one letter away from 307 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:51,040 just a great, great name. 308 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:55,240 The Mad Gasser of Mattoon would have been so much better. 309 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,720 You know what I mean? 310 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:58,720 Like just. 311 00:13:58,720 --> 00:13:59,720 Oh, good to start a change. 312 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,120 Or just kiss. 313 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,040 Change that petition to name change the name of Mattoon to Mattoot. 314 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:11,400 I think I think we're just go there immediately after the name change and open up a Boston's 315 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:15,520 baked bean shop. 316 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:16,520 But not the actual food. 317 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,200 I'm going to sell just those those candy coated peanuts. 318 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,200 That's all it's going to be. 319 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:22,200 You don't like those. 320 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:23,200 Whatever. 321 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:24,200 You're an idiot. 322 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:25,200 That's not my thing. 323 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:30,120 I you know, they're from here that we have all these like things that we're like, oh, 324 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,360 you know, Boston's famous for this. 325 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,400 No one likes Necco wafers, bro. 326 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:35,920 No one likes them. 327 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,200 Yeah, they're disgusting. 328 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:42,080 But growing up, growing up in New England, that was a staple in every Easter basket I've 329 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,560 ever gotten in my entire life for some reason. 330 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:50,480 And Halloween, because nothing says safe candy to eat like something wrapped in wax paper. 331 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,280 Well, I mean, we also. 332 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,080 I was about to go into candy brand, but we got a lot to cover today. 333 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:57,080 Sarge got that. 334 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:58,320 You got to get back into it. 335 00:14:58,320 --> 00:14:59,560 We got to get back into the game. 336 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,280 So are you familiar with the Mad Gasser? 337 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,560 I am moderately familiar with this. 338 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:06,560 Yes. 339 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,080 But I'm sure you're going to tell me things I didn't know about it. 340 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,960 I only really remembered it because it was just such a hilarious name to me. 341 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:13,960 Yeah. 342 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,280 It basically just sounds like someone farting in people's bedrooms, like someone's like 343 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:17,280 fucking Dutch oven. 344 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:26,440 So the first attack, the cereal crop duster, the first attack took place in the early morning 345 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:30,880 hours of August 31st at the Grant Avenue home of Urban Rafe. 346 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:35,360 Rafe claims that he was woken up by a strange odor in his bedroom, thinking it was a gas 347 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,120 leak in the house, which was probably my first thought too. 348 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:42,280 His wife tried to go check the kitchen stove, but found she was partially paralyzed and 349 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,340 wasn't able to get out of bed. 350 00:15:44,340 --> 00:15:49,000 On that same day, an unnamed young woman reported a similar incident where she was awoken by 351 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,720 the sound of her daughter coughing in the next room, but was unable to check on her 352 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,340 because she too was suffering from partial paralysis. 353 00:15:56,340 --> 00:15:57,560 So far, this is kind of weird. 354 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:02,640 The two incidents happened fairly close to one another, so with like similar symptoms. 355 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,280 But for me, like if I would just heard this, I'd be like, that's nothing crazy. 356 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,480 It could just be like an isolated incident. 357 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,000 You know, they're pretty much right next to each other. 358 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:15,560 But that all changed on the next day on September 1st at around 11 p.m. that night. 359 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:20,200 Aline Kearney had just put her kids to bed when she reported smelling a strong, sweet 360 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:24,360 odor, thinking nothing of it and assuming it was coming from the flowers outside. 361 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:28,720 She went about her business, but then that odor grew stronger and she started to feel 362 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,320 her legs becoming weak and numb. 363 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:35,120 She starts to panic and yells out for her sister, Martha, who was there at the time. 364 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:39,120 Martha runs over and she too notices the strong odor and determined that it was coming from 365 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,880 the bedroom window, which had been open this time at the time. 366 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:47,280 Now the police were called, but when they got there, they found no evidence that there 367 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,840 was like a prowler on the loose. 368 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:54,000 Finally around 1230, Aline's husband, Kurt, he got home from work. 369 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:58,000 He was like a taxi driver and wasn't there during the time that like all this shit went 370 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,000 down. 371 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:03,160 But when he when he arrived home, he found an unidentified man snooping around one of 372 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,600 the houses, like one of the windows of the house. 373 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,980 He gave chase, but was unable to catch him. 374 00:17:07,980 --> 00:17:12,080 He described this man as tall, dressed in dark clothing and wearing a tight fitting 375 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:13,080 cap. 376 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:17,560 And this description would be like the go to description throughout this whole idea, 377 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:22,120 because like their story was the first one of the attacks to be published in the media. 378 00:17:22,120 --> 00:17:24,440 Got it. 379 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:25,440 Where you at so far? 380 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:26,800 Because this keeps going. 381 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:31,560 I'm still trying to figure out like what journey. 382 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:38,600 Sent two people on that they would name their son, Urban Rafe. 383 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,480 The man was named in a thesaurus. 384 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:42,480 They just opened the thesaurus. 385 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:43,480 We're like, uh, urban. 386 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:44,480 All right, that works. 387 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:49,800 I honestly, I don't want to name urban, but it reminds me of I don't have a, I don't have 388 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,380 a problem with it. 389 00:17:51,380 --> 00:17:58,000 I'm just trying to figure out what made you put that word in front of the last name. 390 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,880 It's the 1940s. 391 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,800 That's all I could go. 392 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,240 Let's name my kid after a highly developed area, but let's be nondescript. 393 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,760 I call him Dallas or something. 394 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,280 Urban sounds good. 395 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:18,260 So the days following the publication of the Kearney attack, there were another six attacks 396 00:18:18,260 --> 00:18:22,680 that were reported, but there wasn't any evidence that a mad gasser had been roaming around 397 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,640 fucking shooting gas into people's houses. 398 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,360 Nothing physical or you know, odor wise, like the cops would come. 399 00:18:27,360 --> 00:18:28,360 They couldn't smell anything. 400 00:18:28,360 --> 00:18:29,360 There was nothing there. 401 00:18:29,360 --> 00:18:34,320 In fact, there wasn't any real evidence at all that there was a good person doing this. 402 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:39,440 The only quote unquote evidence was found on September 5th and that night around 10 403 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:44,160 PM Carl and I don't know how to pronounce this name, but I think it's a bowler. 404 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,400 Maybe you'll be a Bula. 405 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:47,400 Probably Bula. 406 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:48,400 Bula cords. 407 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:49,400 That sounds way more right. 408 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:50,400 That's what we'll go with. 409 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,240 Carl and Bula cords return home from a night out. 410 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:57,680 After spending some time inside, they noticed what looked like a white men's handkerchief 411 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,960 set sitting on their porch right outside their screen door. 412 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:02,180 Bula. 413 00:19:02,180 --> 00:19:07,280 She picked it up and for some fucking reason just put it up to her face and gave it a big 414 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,280 ol whiff. 415 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:17,080 Smell like chloroform to you. 416 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:22,360 As soon as she did this, she just became violently ill. 417 00:19:22,360 --> 00:19:25,940 Her face swelled up, burning in her mouth and throat, vomiting. 418 00:19:25,940 --> 00:19:29,920 Some sources saying that she started bleeding from her nose and mouth and like the other 419 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,760 victim started feeling weak and getting partial paralysis of her legs. 420 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,400 Dude, why would you like? 421 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,680 I've never seen a strange piece of cloth and be like, what that smell like? 422 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:40,680 Like what? 423 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,080 Let me give this a deep sniff. 424 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,080 Let me investigate. 425 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,600 Along with Bula, mistakes are made. 426 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:52,200 Along with the cloth, a well used skeleton key was also found on the sidewalk in front 427 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:58,360 of the cords home and alongside that a large almost empty tube of lipstick, which I don't 428 00:19:58,360 --> 00:20:01,480 see how it's relevant, but okay. 429 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:07,360 Now the cloth that Bula snorted like a line of Adderall was analyzed by authorities, but 430 00:20:07,360 --> 00:20:11,880 they found no chemicals on it that could explain the reaction that she had. 431 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:17,400 Now at this point, obviously people in the community were starting to get a little concerned 432 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:22,440 and the police were severely understaffed because remember this is 1944 in a small town 433 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:23,440 in Illinois. 434 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,920 Like a majority of the men were off fighting in World War II. 435 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:31,120 So people kind of took it upon themselves to police in the only way that us Americans 436 00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:37,360 know how and that is armed posses roaming the streets with shotguns and pistols at night. 437 00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:40,280 When does this always happen? 438 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,000 Because it's America, man. 439 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:46,280 Remember the Providence, the Providence one that you were, I mean the Provincetown, same 440 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:47,280 thing. 441 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:51,760 They're just like, you know, you know, we need, we need everybody with a gun to go outside 442 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,680 and make this even less safe. 443 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,840 Yeah, that's what, yeah, they did. 444 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,840 It was wild as that in Illinois. 445 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:02,120 They also had the, um, the Murfreesboro mud monster was there. 446 00:21:02,120 --> 00:21:04,840 I think there were some people going around with guns there. 447 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:09,000 And then there was the Enfield monster, bunch of people with guns there and they were shooting 448 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,640 into bushes and shit. 449 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,720 Like whenever something moved in the shadows, they just started fucking blasting. 450 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,760 Well, you know, America. 451 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:16,760 Yeah. 452 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:21,320 Um, but anyway, so yeah, dudes walking around with shotguns, pistols, uh, women carried 453 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,480 bats or clubs whenever leaving the house and many residents started staying with friends 454 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,720 and family so they didn't have to sleep alone. 455 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:32,120 Uh, eventually the police had to be like, guys, you can't be roaming the streets with 456 00:21:32,120 --> 00:21:33,120 guns. 457 00:21:33,120 --> 00:21:36,480 Like I know it's fun, but it's like a public safety thing. 458 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,360 Call it, call back the posse. 459 00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:41,320 We, we, you're not helping. 460 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:42,320 Yeah. 461 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,240 They also issued a statement that you shouldn't linger in residential areas because one of 462 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:52,840 these roving bands of vigilantes just might straight up fucking kill you. 463 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,000 So many reasons, so many reasons you could get shot. 464 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:01,060 So eventually the FBI was called in to help with the investigation as well as five squads 465 00:22:01,060 --> 00:22:04,800 of Illinois straight state troopers to help with like just patrolling the streets since 466 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,800 the police force in Mattoon was basically cut in half during this time period of extra 467 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:09,800 policing. 468 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:14,960 Uh, more physical evidence did pop up like a footprint in a flower bed under a window, 469 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,880 uh, tears and screens, but nothing that really pointed anyone in any direction of like who 470 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:20,960 the perpetrator could be. 471 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:25,080 But like I said, there were dozens of attacks with most of them being false alarms. 472 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,640 Uh, there are some credible ones though, like the Rafe and Kearney attacks that I mentioned 473 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:34,200 earlier as well as the Bula cords one kind of on September 6th, Fred gobble. 474 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:38,200 So he believed to be the gasser on September. 475 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,440 Now you just make it up names on September 7th. 476 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:41,920 And this one's my favorite one. 477 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:46,200 Uh, someone claimed they saw blue vapor and heard a motorized buzzing sound that they 478 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,920 believed to be from a quote unquote gassing machine. 479 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:54,800 Uh, September 13th, you're going to think I made this up. 480 00:22:54,800 --> 00:23:01,320 Uh, Bertha Birch claimed to have seen the gasser and claimed it was actually claimed 481 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:06,000 it was actually a woman dressed as a man and the footprint that I had found that they had 482 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,040 found earlier that I mentioned, uh, that this is the footprint that they found. 483 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,040 They found a woman's footprint. 484 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,040 Um, that explains the lipstick. 485 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:19,080 I mean, kinda now eventually on September 12th, the day before that Bertha saw the gasser 486 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,920 that was a woman dressed as a man, the police issued a statement saying that they were going 487 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:27,560 to reduce their priority, uh, that was afforded to gasser reports and announced that the entire 488 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:32,600 incident was a result of totally explainable happenings that were just being exacerbated 489 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:33,600 by public fears. 490 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,120 And it was a sign of the anxiety felt. 491 00:23:36,120 --> 00:23:38,760 This is such a gaslighting thing to say. 492 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:46,000 It's a sign of the anxiety felt by women while the local men were off at war. 493 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,200 Oh man. 494 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,680 This is the most American episode ever. 495 00:23:52,680 --> 00:24:01,040 We got, we got roving bands with guns, a dude with a fart problem and good old misogyny. 496 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,360 Dude, just, I mean, talk about hysterical. 497 00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:04,360 Am I right? 498 00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:06,320 Hey, let's get this. 499 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,320 All right. 500 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:12,200 No, what's weird is that after there's this announcement though, the gasser reports kind 501 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,240 of just faded away. 502 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:20,080 So was it mass hysteria or was there actually a madman going around gassing people in their 503 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,520 homes just for thrills? 504 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,440 Well, there are a couple of theories on what actually happened. 505 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,320 One, there was an actual assailant. 506 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,280 Some researchers have come to the conclusion that at least some of the attacks were the 507 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:37,800 work of the mad gasser of Mattoon and they did carry out a series of gassings as reported. 508 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,560 The second obviously mass hysteria. 509 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:45,380 So two weeks after the supposed attacks began, Thomas V. Wright, the local public health 510 00:24:45,380 --> 00:24:50,240 commissioner announced that yes, there had undoubtedly been a few gassing incidents, 511 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,480 but a majority of them were likely due to hysteria. 512 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,160 People hearing about a sensationalized attack in the press and then panicking whenever they 513 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:03,320 quote unquote were confronted by an out of place odor or a shadow in the night. 514 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,280 And most of the symptoms that had been reported due to the gassings like weakness, temporary 515 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,920 paralysis, swallowing of mucous membranes, things like that, they're all symptoms of 516 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,520 like mass hysteria. 517 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:20,200 And it didn't help that the first headline to come out during the attacks were Mrs. Kiernan 518 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:25,080 and daughter first victims, which led the public to like at large to assume that there's 519 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,080 going to be more attacks. 520 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:31,480 If you label someone as the first victim, you're kind of putting it in people's heads 521 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,280 that they're just going to fucking keep going. 522 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:39,760 Now, I know if only they had, if only they had not called it world war one, we wouldn't 523 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,080 have had the second one. 524 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:45,320 Whatever dude, fucking back to back world war champs, bro. 525 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,700 Come on, dude. 526 00:25:47,700 --> 00:25:52,560 Come on, America, bro. 527 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,960 Now another theory is toxic waste and pollution from war manufacturing. 528 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:03,000 The Mattoon was a pretty big manufacturing like town even before the war and even up 529 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:08,600 until like basically they were like the Detroit of Illinois, if that makes sense. 530 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:09,600 Yeah, yeah. 531 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,360 I mean, and it only got worse after we opened the bean shop. 532 00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:14,360 Exactly. 533 00:26:14,360 --> 00:26:21,440 So during this time they were fucking making a bunch of shit for the war effort in the 534 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,200 press conference that took place on September 12th. 535 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:28,040 Police Chief Cole told the press that the odors and symptoms could have been the result 536 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:33,400 of pollutants or toxic waste released by nearby plants, specifically Atlas Imperial. 537 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:40,000 And he theorized that carbon tetrachloride or trichloroethylene, both chemicals having 538 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:45,760 a sweet smell and can produce the same symptoms that were being reported may have been released 539 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,120 from the plant and spread to the town. 540 00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:52,120 Well, Atlas Imperial, they did not like getting called out like that. 541 00:26:52,120 --> 00:26:55,880 And they fucking clap back with their own statement, basically saying, sit down, shut 542 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:56,880 the fuck up. 543 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,520 You don't know what you're talking about. 544 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:03,560 Saying in their own statement that they only had five gallons of carbon tetrachloride in 545 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,040 stock and they were all contained in firefighting equipment. 546 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:13,960 They also deny that any quantity of trichloroethylene that they had at the plant could be responsible 547 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:19,960 as you would need so much of it to make the town sick and that factory workers would have 548 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:25,360 experienced similar or even worse symptoms long before anybody on the outside of the 549 00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:29,720 factory would have been even remotely affected by it. 550 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:34,680 Another theory and sorry, I don't know how this dude keeps cropping up in our fucking 551 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,760 stories even once not about cryptids. 552 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:45,640 But this was featured in Lauren Coleman's book, Mr. Mysterious America, where a description 553 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:50,520 of an illustration of the Mad Gasser reads, quote, the artist depicts them as a not quite 554 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,960 human possibly extraterrestrial being, end quote. 555 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,320 So we know that one's not real. 556 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:57,680 Settle down, Lauren Coleman. 557 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:58,680 This is bullshit. 558 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,800 It made me so angry, I muted myself by accident. 559 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:07,360 Go back to your grasshopper menu, dick. 560 00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:08,360 Yeah. 561 00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:13,000 So in the end, since no one was ever caught and with such a little evidence, like who 562 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,680 knows what really happened in this town or if the gasser is real or not. 563 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:17,680 But there you have it. 564 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,880 That's the case of the Mad Gasser of Mattoon. 565 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:20,880 You got any theories? 566 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:26,000 Because I got I got a theory and I don't know about this makes me just the whole story is 567 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,000 amazing. 568 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,080 I I was right. 569 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,480 I didn't remember all of it. 570 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:38,600 And so my theory is you're in a town in the 1940s. 571 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:39,680 Sounds awful. 572 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,520 Your windows are always open. 573 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,320 You know, you picked up some smells. 574 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,760 Somebody what time of year was this again? 575 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:48,760 It was September. 576 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:49,760 So it's like pretty much summer. 577 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:50,760 Pretty much. 578 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:51,760 Yeah. 579 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:52,760 Yeah. 580 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,440 So I mean, your windows are still open. 581 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,480 People feel probably passing out because it's hot. 582 00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,480 Yeah. 583 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,040 You know, back then they didn't exactly hydrate. 584 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,840 I mean, well, I remember coffee in the morning, whiskey at night. 585 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:11,280 I was going to say everyone, everyone like they were just eating just the rawest of red 586 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,720 meats and just whiskey. 587 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:14,720 I've seen mad men. 588 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,040 I know it's not the 40s, but like it might as well be like I just picture everything 589 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,760 pre 70s is just mad men. 590 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:22,800 Yeah. 591 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,280 Their idea of salad was like a garnish next to a stick. 592 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,960 No, it wasn't their idea of salad fucking like a jello. 593 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:31,960 We're jello. 594 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:32,960 Jello salad. 595 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,960 I'm glad we both got that. 596 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,720 So they're also rationing. 597 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,720 So people are not getting nutritious food. 598 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:41,800 There's like a whole thing. 599 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:48,040 If you want to go down a crazy rabbit hole, look up FDR's his rationing recipes that like 600 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,520 his wife put together. 601 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:50,880 Oh, God, dude. 602 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:57,120 Basically, people are eating like weird versions of hot dog casserole. 603 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,280 I think I think it probably was just kind of a stinky town. 604 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:08,160 And then it just it sort of expanded once, you know, hysteria set in and everybody just 605 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:14,800 went a little, you know, a little looney tunes, which is it makes sense for a town called 606 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,100 Mattoon. 607 00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:19,720 So I have a theory and. 608 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,480 I think this might be a theory that was actually positive at the time. 609 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:23,840 I don't really know. 610 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:28,280 I think that at the beginning, there was something going on. 611 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,880 I do think that there was someone gassing the town. 612 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:36,680 But you got to think the police was at half manpower and they were in a town at the town 613 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,840 of like at the time, I think like fifteen thousand people. 614 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:40,840 It's like a small city. 615 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:41,840 You know what I mean? 616 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,560 Like so they probably they probably didn't have the resources to like really look into 617 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:52,320 it and they didn't put the full effort into trying to find the quote unquote Mad Gasser 618 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,620 when the initial attacks began. 619 00:30:54,620 --> 00:31:00,040 But then once like the population started like freaking out about it and then the actual 620 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,120 mass hysteria started like really running rampant. 621 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:09,920 I think when by the time they took it seriously, the Mad Gasser was already done doing his 622 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:16,240 thing and they had no chance of like they waited way too long to actually take it seriously 623 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,240 before they could actually. 624 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,040 So I think it's like column A column B thing. 625 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,040 Like I do think there might have been someone, but I do think that it caused mass hysteria 626 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:28,080 and no help to the media because they were just fucking like, of course, the media has 627 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,840 never done a good job with things like that. 628 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:30,840 No. 629 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,800 And plus in the 40s, every headline back then was a fucking like it. 630 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:35,800 I saw a newspaper article. 631 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:36,800 I saw a newspaper article. 632 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,800 I was like Hitler in Germany. 633 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,160 Then I was like Mad Gasser of Mattoon. 634 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,720 It's like you can't put those two things side by like that's going to cause the anxiety 635 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:46,720 of people. 636 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:51,280 There was no what if it was like a rogue Nazi spy, right? 637 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:57,000 Well, I mean, rogue German spy and he's just been living off a cabbage soup for two weeks. 638 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,480 Then he's like, I'm going to guess everyone is his town. 639 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:01,480 Open your windows. 640 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:02,480 Here comes my butt. 641 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,800 Dude, there was fucking U-boats in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, like by the imports with New 642 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:06,800 Hampshire. 643 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:07,800 You know what I mean? 644 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:08,800 Like they got there was a plot. 645 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:09,800 It was. 646 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,680 Yeah, there was a plot to blow up a bridge in New York. 647 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:17,840 And the only reason it got foiled is because the Germans got like shit faced and they kept 648 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,080 bragging about what they were going to do. 649 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:24,080 Yeah, like, like, like, I mean, I don't think it was someone just eating fucking. 650 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,840 I mean, if anything, it would be the Irish corned beef and cabbage farting in your windows. 651 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:32,600 But also Germany loves their sauerkraut and that is made from cabbage. 652 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:37,880 But also during the 40s, I feel like I think I read something during this where the Irish 653 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,040 were used for some things and it was not good. 654 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,920 So that's true. 655 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,080 But anyway, so popular guys. 656 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,080 That's my theory. 657 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,480 I think that initially there may have been something. 658 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,760 I mean, I work near a chemical plant every once in a while. 659 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,640 You will get a whiff of something. 660 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:54,640 Yeah. 661 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,520 I work at a print shop, which is right next to fucking Dow Chemicals. 662 00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,520 Yeah. 663 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,520 Which is why mostly your mustache just falls off. 664 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:02,520 Yeah. 665 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:03,520 So you'll get a whiff of something. 666 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,000 But I mean, so that could be happening in this town, too. 667 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,080 But I do believe that there was something happening. 668 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:12,760 I don't believe that lady that that lady saw a fucking blue mist and heard the hum of a 669 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:13,880 fucking vaporizer. 670 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:21,680 I don't think that was no, no, no, that was just somebody's vibrator to cure the hysteria. 671 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:29,000 But yeah, I think it's too far. 672 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:33,840 I think initially there was and then I think the cops dicked around too much. 673 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:39,160 And then when shit got real, they couldn't do anything about it. 674 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,240 So like, oh, no, you're all fucking making it up. 675 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,240 Yeah. 676 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,400 Like their whole idea solving crime back then was just finding the nearest minority. 677 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:52,640 Well, yeah, well, it's like that fucking that that old John Mulaney joke was like, like 678 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,520 CSI is now like they're like fucking Dustin for fingerprints and collecting blood back 679 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,680 then like there's a dead body draw a chalk line around it. 680 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:05,440 So remember where it was. 681 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,240 That's all they had to go. 682 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,240 Exactly. 683 00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:10,680 They're like, well, there's no brown people in this town. 684 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,480 Let's blame the Italians. 685 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,640 But even then, like there was no suspects and I and I. 686 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,960 Well, yeah, I mean, that's a tough thing. 687 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:25,400 Like, you know, there's no stereotype that involves creating gases. 688 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,280 I mean, there could be. 689 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,040 But also, I guess if you it could be warfare. 690 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,400 I'm not I'm not going to say that. 691 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,600 I'm not going to I'm not going to go down the road of being like it's women being hysterical 692 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,760 because the men aren't around. 693 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,320 But I do think that like during like during World War One and World War Two, like gas 694 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:42,680 warfare was a big thing. 695 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,760 You're probably reading about that in the newspaper. 696 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,120 You smell something weird during a heightened time of like tension in America. 697 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,800 Like you smell a weird smell that you've never smelled before. 698 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,120 You might be thinking it is a chemical attacker or something. 699 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,800 You know, I mean, like it was like back in like 2002. 700 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:01,480 And if you saw white powder anywhere, it was immediately anthrax. 701 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:02,480 You know what I mean? 702 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,400 Like so I don't want to get canceled here, but if because we look this up. 703 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,080 I know I'm going to get canceled. 704 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,080 And then I said it. 705 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:14,000 Nothing has ever come from the statement. 706 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,000 Yeah. 707 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,000 But look, I do. 708 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,000 You might as well. 709 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,000 You might as well said like, I'm not racist. 710 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:24,240 But when I was doing research on the Salem witch trials, one of the things that we came 711 00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:33,480 across in the research was studies that being to fucking DJ that you got to give her a vibrator 712 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,480 and send her to the seaport to the coast. 713 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:45,760 No, what what we came across was that women were slightly more susceptible to mass hysteria 714 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:46,760 than men. 715 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:47,760 Fucking tell me about it. 716 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:48,760 Am I right? 717 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:53,680 Women can't spell overreact without ovary. 718 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:58,720 In real life, though, that was that was what we came across. 719 00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:01,200 And I still don't think this is mass hysteria. 720 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:06,560 I think the police would definitely gaslighting the women in a super fucked up way like, oh, 721 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,600 your husband's away at war. 722 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,440 Must be a vagina getting in the way. 723 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,160 I don't think that was the case at all. 724 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,240 You know what I mean? 725 00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:17,320 But I'm just saying like, did I hate when my vagina gets in the way? 726 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:18,320 Dude. 727 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:19,320 Oh, man. 728 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:24,480 I love that internal plumbing. 729 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:31,560 But bottom line, what I'm trying to say is there is some truth to just like pointing 730 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:38,120 it at a bunch of women victims and going mass hysteria only because that was a commonly 731 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:44,080 held belief that was somewhat backed up statistically, like a little bit slightly better than chance. 732 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:50,360 However, coming back to this, it's not a big enough group, not a big enough sample size 733 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,800 to be able to say, oh, it's just mass hysteria. 734 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,280 What do we talk about? 735 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,280 What? 736 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:56,280 Twelve people, maybe? 737 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:57,280 Yeah, they were affected by this. 738 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,280 And some of them. 739 00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,920 So some of them were men. 740 00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:00,920 Yeah. 741 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:01,920 So how is the argument? 742 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,960 Oh, your husband's away at war, except for Jim, because he couldn't get married to a 743 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:06,960 dude back then. 744 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:12,640 Well, I think what it was that if you were a man in America in 1944 and you weren't at 745 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,840 war, you're pretty much a woman at that point. 746 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,840 What are you doing? 747 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:23,360 Here's a fucking pussy. 748 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:31,320 I don't know what to do with it, but I'm going to the seaside anyway. 749 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:36,560 This is well, I mean, technically, they'd have to go to a Great Lake, right? 750 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:37,560 Isn't Illinois? 751 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:38,560 Oh, yeah. 752 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:39,560 Good call. 753 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:40,560 Good call. 754 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,680 It's a long drive to get to the ocean that way. 755 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,280 They'd have to go to New Jersey, I think. 756 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,280 Illinois. 757 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,560 Dude, I don't know where. 758 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:49,560 I just realized. 759 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,720 The nearest waterway would be Illinois is where is. 760 00:37:53,720 --> 00:37:58,640 So you've got Illinois, a little bit up is Michigan. 761 00:37:58,640 --> 00:37:59,640 Next to it is Indiana. 762 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:00,640 OK. 763 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:05,200 And then I believe Ohio, Pennsylvania, New York. 764 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:09,680 I'm drawing this out on a map for those of you listening in an audio thing. 765 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,920 I don't want you to be like, oh, such things. 766 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,080 Pennsylvania is right next to anyway. 767 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,160 This has been Sarge's geography corner. 768 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,680 Thank you pointing. 769 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,040 The only reason I'm doing that is because I've been to some of these places. 770 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:27,400 My brother lives in Michigan and I know that Illinois is right below. 771 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:28,880 I've been to every single one of these states. 772 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:29,880 I couldn't fucking tell you where. 773 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,880 So that's the Mad Gasser. 774 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,680 I mean, it's not like it's not much. 775 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,200 It's not like a big story. 776 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,840 It's not crazy, but like there's weird shit going on. 777 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:39,840 It's a great story. 778 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,280 Anyways, so that's it. 779 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:46,800 Sarge, you got anything else you want to add before we plug our shit and do our thing? 780 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:47,800 Yeah. 781 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:48,800 Yeah. 782 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:49,800 I think this story is amazing. 783 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:59,920 It reminds me of another story of a slasher who was going around slashing ladies and stabbing 784 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:00,920 them in the butt. 785 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,440 Oh, I remember the bus. 786 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:03,440 That was recent, wasn't it? 787 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:04,440 Yeah. 788 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:05,440 And that was no, no, no. 789 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:10,440 I think like this was back in the, I want to say 19 early 1900s as well, because this 790 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:15,040 is when hat pins were a thing and women were carrying around hat pins for weapons. 791 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:20,360 And it turned out that was also attributed to mass hysteria. 792 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,360 You know what I was thinking of? 793 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:24,360 Gaddafi. 794 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:29,080 If ever anyone was stabbed, deserved to get stabbed in the butt. 795 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,080 It was Omar Gaddafi. 796 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,080 All right. 797 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,440 But yeah, there you have it. 798 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:34,440 That's the story. 799 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,360 Uh, sorry, do you want to plug anything before we sign up? 800 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:38,360 Yes. 801 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,360 I got a comic book, not a comic book, a coloring book. 802 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,520 I keep saying comic book because my brain's broken. 803 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,040 I think that means we just need to write a comic book. 804 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,400 We do need to write a comic book. 805 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:47,400 Ready? 806 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:48,400 The Adventures of Sgt. 807 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,400 Dave. 808 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:50,400 It's us paranormal investigators. 809 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:51,400 Yes. 810 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,200 But we never find anything, but we're always terrified. 811 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,040 It's like Scooby Doo, but we never. 812 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,400 Oh yeah. 813 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,320 We're just too scared to go in 90% of the time. 814 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,200 So we're sitting in a car out front drinking. 815 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,960 Just the windows defrosting because it's cold outside. 816 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,120 We can't, we can't go outside. 817 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,680 I'll just do my best Zach Baggins impression and just scream the whole time. 818 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,400 Just immediately want to fight demons. 819 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:24,400 But cry and scream every time I hear like a pipe settle. 820 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:25,400 Fuck you demons. 821 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:26,400 What the fuck was that? 822 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,400 I mean, I mean, so it's good. 823 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,680 Um, so you got a color. 824 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,360 So I got, I got a coloring book. 825 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,240 I'm very excited about this coloring book. 826 00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:45,480 It's um, if you go to sarges super normal.com, that is, uh, Sarge and then an S and then 827 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,100 another S for super normal. 828 00:40:47,100 --> 00:40:48,320 So Sarge is super normal. 829 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,320 Gotcha. 830 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,320 Two S's in the middle. 831 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:51,320 Don't let that throw you off. 832 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,120 Um, it's, it's going to be released on July 5th. 833 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,400 Everybody should buy it on July 5th. 834 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,640 Um, because then we can become a number one bestseller and then fucking take that random 835 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:03,640 house. 836 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,880 You've been saying that, but I don't understand. 837 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,400 Does that like, if it's, does that mean like because it's all bought on a single day, you're 838 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,720 a bestseller or because there's like a cutoff and it's like on September on January. 839 00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:20,040 So basically there's categories, there's these categories that books fall into. 840 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,760 Um, and, and you don't really see that. 841 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,280 Like when, so when you see something on the bestseller list, there's probably a number 842 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:27,720 of reasons why it's there. 843 00:41:27,720 --> 00:41:29,320 A bunch of factors. 844 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:30,320 Yeah. 845 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:34,400 So in this case it's, you know, it's an adult coloring book that is being released on July 846 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:35,400 5th. 847 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:43,280 So let's say I sell 25 of them and no one else sells any or everybody else sells one 848 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:44,400 or two. 849 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,560 I'm a bestseller for that day. 850 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:52,080 So Amazon slaps a bestseller sticker on there and says, Hey, boom, you did it. 851 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:59,200 I actually did that accidentally with a short story I wrote on Amazon and it was a bestseller 852 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:05,680 for one, one like 15 minute period, but it's still considered a bestseller. 853 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:06,680 That's fucking hilarious. 854 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,240 And I'm not even, that wasn't even deliberate. 855 00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:11,680 That was an accident and it still worked out in my favor. 856 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,460 Uh, I have written a couple of short stories. 857 00:42:14,460 --> 00:42:20,680 When you try to buy this book, this coloring book on July 5th, you'll see my author page 858 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:25,760 on Amazon and I have two short stories that you can only get digital and then you can 859 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:30,160 get the coloring book in, in real life. 860 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,120 And uh, and then you can find me on the street and I'll sign it for you for no reason. 861 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:35,120 Yeah. 862 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:42,040 If you're just roaming the streets of Massachusetts, you can find me, follow the clues on my Tik 863 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,640 Tok and you'll find me somewhere. 864 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,480 Just fucking just stand outside the fucking palladium dude. 865 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:47,480 He's he'll be there. 866 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:48,480 Yeah. 867 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:49,480 Metal. 868 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,480 He's going to go see fucking a monomar. 869 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:56,680 Chances are if a modern Martha's in is somewhere playing near Massachusetts and you go to that 870 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,000 show you will find me. 871 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,760 So uh, all right. 872 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:01,760 So yeah. 873 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,560 So sarges super normal.com go that. 874 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:06,560 I just super normal.com. 875 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:11,440 It'll be, oh my God, I'm dying. 876 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,080 The Mad Gaster is coming for me. 877 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:18,200 Uh, if you want to follow us on Instagram, it's at crypto cocktail. 878 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:22,000 Uh, there's a link in the description that you could find all these links and sarges 879 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,000 super normal be in there as well. 880 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,720 Uh, if you want to follow him, all those links are in there where to find us. 881 00:43:27,720 --> 00:43:28,920 I mean, you're listening to us. 882 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,800 You already know where to find us there. 883 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:31,800 Yeah. 884 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,720 Uh, come and find us more, more finding us. 885 00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:37,320 Follow me on everything just for the fun of it. 886 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:38,320 Everything. 887 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,800 Listen to us on Patreon, I guess. 888 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:41,800 I don't know. 889 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:42,800 Yeah. 890 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,000 Just the thing is $5 a month. 891 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,560 Just give us your money. 892 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,760 And I basically respond to every DM. 893 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:53,000 So if you ever have a question or want me to appear at the opening of a shopping mall 894 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,720 in your neighborhood, just show me a DM on Instagram. 895 00:43:55,720 --> 00:43:57,920 I'm going to respond to you at least once. 896 00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:58,920 Yeah. 897 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:03,280 At least at the bare minimum once at the bare minimum once. 898 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,040 And sometimes I respond more than you want me to. 899 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,520 And then you block me, but that's not my fault. 900 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:10,520 That's on you. 901 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,240 That was just me being friendly. 902 00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:17,360 Um, I do, I can make the promise that you're not going to see pictures in my wiener because 903 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:18,360 I don't do that. 904 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,160 Well, you're going to pay for that kind of action. 905 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,880 I was going to say now people aren't going to DM you. 906 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,320 So yeah, uh, follow us, follow him. 907 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:32,240 Patreon $5 a month, patreon.com slash crypto party. 908 00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:34,000 And then I think that's it. 909 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,240 Sarge, say goodbye and that you love everyone. 910 00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:49,040 Hey, I love you.