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Hey everybody.

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Welcome back to another episode of Cryptic Cocktail Party, a show where we have a few

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fights, share a few laughs, take a dive into the unknown.

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I'm your host, Dave, and joined as always my lovely co-host, Sarge the Destroyer.

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What's going on, handsome?

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What's going on?

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What's going on?

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I had an eventful day.

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Did you?

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Someone described it as a main character day.

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I see.

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Well, hold on.

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So I feel like when people are, people describe someone else as a main character, that's not

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usually a good thing.

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No, no, it's not usually a good thing.

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And I recognized that it could be problematic, but I know based on who it was coming from,

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that it was like, oh no, you just, you know, you had a lot going on today.

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So it's, it's, it's Star Wars day, as we all know.

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And there was a fun run at my child's school.

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Now my son, he-

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There's no such thing as a fun run.

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Running is a nightmare.

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No, there's nothing fun about it.

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Okay.

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I'm glad we're on the same page.

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It's an evolutionary thing.

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I mean, you, you literally only do it to escape from animals, you know, when they were chasing

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you.

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And then we just, we were like, you know what would be fun is to do this, but without lions.

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Behind us.

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And I hate it, but my son was like, he loves running.

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Right.

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And he's like, most kids do dad.

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It's a fun run.

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You got to run with me.

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I'm like, yeah, sure.

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But he's like, I'm really fast.

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Just so you know.

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Okay.

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Oh, okay.

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All right, good.

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So we get about, you know, two seconds into this run and he is sprints, right?

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He, you know, jolts forward.

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That's not how you do it.

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It disappears over the horizon.

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Right.

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You're going to wear yourself out.

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If you just, you got to pace yourself.

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Right.

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And so my 42 year old ass, I'm like lumbering through and there's my son with his hands on

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his knees, trying to catch his breath.

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We haven't even made it a hundred yards.

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And I'm like, what's going on, buddy?

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Let's go.

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I thought you were fast.

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And so that was awful.

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And he just kept stopping the whole time.

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And I'm trying, I'm running the whole way through.

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Cause I, you know, I'm like a, I'm like a, like a freight train.

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I've got two speeds go or stop.

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And so I knew if I stopped, it was going to take me too long to get going again.

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Yeah.

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So eventually I forced him to go through.

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We did like an 11 minute mile, which couldn't possibly be slower for me.

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I'm not even fast, but I do more than, you know, an 11 minute mile.

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I feel like that's not terrible for a child though.

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It's not bad, but given how much he hyped himself up, he's like, Oh dad, I'm real fast.

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You're going to hold this kid to it.

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You're full of shit, but we were wearing matching shirts.

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We went to the Red Sox, Star Wars game.

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They do like Star Wars nights.

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So we both had matching Red Sox jerseys for Star Wars and we were both wearing Mandalorian

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hats.

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We had it.

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We, after we finished, we got medals and that was fun.

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And then we went to like a little party that they had at his school.

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And so there was tug of war.

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My son and I played tug of war and I, you know, I went easy on him cause he's a little

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guy.

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I'm pulling back and then jokingly, I put the rope over my shoulder and started walking

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away from him and he's holding on on his end.

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And then I feel it get, get real difficult and I turn around and there's eight elementary

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school age children digging their heels in as hard as they can.

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And so I was like, Oh, let's do it.

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Let's see how far I can go.

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I held my own for quite a while.

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I actually started to make a little progress and then this little meaty son of a bitch

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jumped on the end.

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And yeah, he totally stopped my progress and I had to give up cause it was just, it was

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too much.

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The boy was strong.

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Well, like I was telling you is that the husky kids are the ones you gotta look out for.

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Because, like I said, outside of that soft exterior, the, you know, the, as a husky kid,

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they goes, you know, everyone's like, Oh, he's so cute.

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Punched the cheeks.

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All that.

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That's rage.

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That causes intense rage.

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And like I said, it's mostly just rage and dense bake goods inside.

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So like, I believe I said to you, what did I, Oh, uh, uh, husky kids have the density

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of a dying son.

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They're pretty much, they're pretty much unmovable.

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Because they're usually short squat.

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Like the center of gravity is there.

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So if you get a husky kid to be the anchor in a tug of war match, you're done.

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It doesn't matter who you are.

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You're done.

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Absolutely.

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He looks, he looks like, like he's like, he's overweight, right?

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He looks like he's, he's a fat guy.

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He's built a little bit like Paul Sorvino.

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You know, from, so anyway, um, but he is solid.

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So rude.

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I feel like, but it's good.

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I like that.

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He is immovable.

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And I can tell that deep down, if he wanted to, he could destroy most people.

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He is just burly, but he looks so unassuming.

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He's like quiet.

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He's got glasses and braces.

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But I swear to God, that boy could punch a hole through a brick wall.

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Um, anyway, so after, after my son embarrassed me by inviting all of his friends, um, to

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a tug of war, I feel like, I feel like eight on one, like you're good.

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It's not embarrassed.

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Like no, no, no, no, no, I feel like once it gets to nine, but the thing is like all

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the dads were kind of like laughing at me.

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I was just going to say, I feel like even then the dads are like nine kids.

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That's a lot.

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I'm like, well, I'm like thinking to myself, get in here, you dicks.

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Like let's go.

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Let's all do this.

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You know, we can't show these, we can't let these kids win.

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We're going to show them who's boss.

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Couldn't make these kids fucking dirt.

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Fuck these kids.

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You little bastards.

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Anyway, they also sort of raise money for the school.

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They have a cow and the cow was fenced in this enclosure.

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For so long.

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No, wait, hold on.

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Hold on.

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Hold on.

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To raise money for the school, they have this cow.

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Is it a golden calf?

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Is this like a weird fucking like, is this a religious thing or are we like?

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This is going to get real country.

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And when I say real country, I mean, we live within, within 20 miles of like the, some of

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the greatest universities in America.

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You're about to say something that only I would understand and New England listeners

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will understand.

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So knowing that we live in a fairly, you know, it's a suburb, but it's still fairly metropolitan

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area, like from the top of, of the streets of route one, you can see the Boston skyline.

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And so there's, there's this field out behind the school and they've got this like fenced

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in area.

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You know, temporary fencing, of course, in this grids paint spray painted with white

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spray paint and they've got the cow.

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And basically you pick a square and if the cow happens to shit in that square, exactly

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where you're going with this, as soon as you said grid, I knew it was going to be a cow

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patty situation.

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Now like I can understand this.

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If there's a lot of cows in your, in your neighborhood, there's not a cow within like

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20 miles of my house.

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I don't know where they truck this fat son of a bitch in from, but the cow wasn't having

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I'm from New Hampshire.

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This makes complete sense to me.

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I would expect this in, in New Hampshire.

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Like they had to import the cow, you know?

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So anyway, this like a Dumbo drops the Jewish fucking fly it in by black and just drop it

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out the side.

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Yeah, exactly.

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So the cow is in this very flimsy enclosure and the cow decided I don't want to be here

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anymore.

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That tracks.

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So this giant son of a bitch breaks through the pen.

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I don't know if it jumped over the small fence that was there or like, anyway, it's just

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rampaging, but not angry rampage.

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Just like, you know, the cow doesn't want to be in there more.

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So it was just running, but the whole area is full of children.

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So like this cow is going to body one of these kids, I'm sure of it.

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And the cow starts running towards me and I'm thinking to myself, I don't want these

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kids to get killed.

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So let me stop the cow.

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And so I get the fuck are you going to do against a cow?

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Well, wait.

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So the cows wearing this like rope thing around its head so you can control it.

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And so I grab onto it and I'm holding onto it and I'm looking at this animal that is

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easily three times my weight.

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Do you have a smooch?

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And I'm looking into its big, you know, sweet brown eyes and I'm like, Hey buddy.

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But I'm thinking to myself, okay, now I have the cow.

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What do I do with it?

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Well, like I caught it if I'm holding its head, but I'm like, if this cow decides it

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wants to continue moving, this isn't a tug of war situation.

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The cow is going to win.

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Yeah, you'll get murdered.

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Yeah, definitely.

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So I'm like trying to calm it down and be nice to it.

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But I'm like also scared because this thing's fucking huge.

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And I see this girl running from the distance in the distance and you know that she's running

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one because she wants to get the cow away from me and bring it back to its pen.

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But two, because she definitely fucked up somewhere along the road and wasn't paying

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attention and that's how this like 600 pound beast managed to outrun her.

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And so she comes up and she's like, Oh, don't hold the rope like that.

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And I'm like, rope like, what are you talking about?

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I'm just trying to stop this thing from bodying a six year old.

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And so I let it go and she takes it, but the fat ass cow steps on my foot and I was like,

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okay, all right, I'm done.

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I'm out of here.

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It hurt like a son of a bitch because it's, you know, their feet are hooves.

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So it just jammed its hooves in the top of my foot.

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So eventually I just, I gave up.

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I feel like where you fucked up is that you didn't, you, you had the cow, you had its

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head, you were facing it, but you didn't do that thing that you do to golden retrievers

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where you just put your forehead on his forehead and they just know that you love it.

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I feel like that's where you see, that's where you fucked up.

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Cause I, I want to give it a smooth.

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I want to, you know, Hey girl, well, I was talking real nice to it and I was patting

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its face.

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I was like, Hey buddy, don't run away.

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Cause I don't want to die today.

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Well, there you go.

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So you called the buddy.

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Yeah.

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No, I was being friendly with it, but cows are notoriously known to be female.

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Wolves are buddies.

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Oh, right, right, right, right.

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And uh, we won't stand for that.

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You know, I'm actually mildly embarrassed that you say that right now because I remember

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when I first saw the cow, I thought to myself, what are that's a boy or a girl?

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This should give you out, this should give the listeners a bit of a clue as to how few

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farm animals we have on my end in Massachusetts.

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Oh, well I'm glad I could clear the air.

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That's fucking, I can't believe I thought that.

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I'm such a moron.

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What if it's a boy or a girl cow?

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It doesn't have any others.

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Oh, it doesn't have any horns either.

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You fucking moron.

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Oh man.

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I'm glad you're not there.

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I'm glad you, I'm glad that was my day.

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I'm glad you didn't stop.

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I'm glad you didn't get killed by a cow, but I am glad that you stopped it from murdering

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a bunch of children, although you did stop what would have been one of the best viral

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moments of your town that you live in.

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I should have just filmed it frankly.

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If anyone recorded it.

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Yeah, exactly.

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My day wasn't as exciting.

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I may have gotten a little bit drunk before we started recording this episode and now

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that's okay.

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I'll just catch up.

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Now I'm drinking this fucking bantha brew.

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Oh yeah.

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So I was speaking to Star Wars day, everyone.

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We're already 12 minutes into this episode.

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We haven't even come close to what we're going to be talking about today.

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Sorry, I had to tell somebody about the rampaging cow.

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No, that's fine.

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Real quick though.

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I did go to Nishamnee Creek Brewery up in Bristol County, Croydon to be exact, and they

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are doing their May the Fourth Brew With You celebration today.

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And I picked up some of their Bantha fodder, spring Bach German style lager, 7% alcohol.

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I've already had three of these babies.

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I'm ready to go.

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You're ready to go.

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I'm excited.

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So real quick before we actually before we start the episode, I might rearrange the segments

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of this episode.

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And this might be before your cow story.

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But we got it.

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We got Sarge, pay attention to me.

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Look at me.

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I'm paying attention.

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Look at me.

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I'm ready.

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All right.

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We got a really friendly.

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We got a really nice message on TikTok the other day.

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It was DM and from a listener.

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And I don't normally get a lot of like DMs from people talking about like, hey, like

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shows, you know, whatever.

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But this actually really touched me.

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And I did.

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I'm not going to say I got emotional, but like I've done the show for a year.

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We're only like 50 episodes in.

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And so for like to get feedback at all, it's fucking phenomenal.

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But to get a direct message, you know.

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So this is a segment I'm going to start calling wholesome content.

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And I made a soundbite for it.

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Are you ready for this?

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I'm ready.

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All right.

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So, OK, that was aggressive.

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So we got a message from a listener and I'm going to read it just because I think everyone

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should hear it.

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It says, hey, I just wanted to reach out and say I was super excited to have found your

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podcast and I really enjoy listening.

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I'm listening all week and I swear it's the perfect blend of laughter and learning.

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It's just effortlessly from it's just effortless for me to stay engaged and eager to keep listening.

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Also bonus points for being a metalhead.

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Hope you have a great rest of your week and I can't wait to hear more.

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Come on, man.

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I love that.

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Come on.

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That that makes all the work worth it.

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I mean, all the work you do.

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I do nothing.

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I just sit here and talk to you.

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But yeah, I mean, the research I because like the thing is, man, you do put a lot of energy

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in, you put a lot of work in this.

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There's a lot of research that goes into the show.

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And you know that that that makes it so worth it to know that somebody out there appreciates

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it.

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I always go.

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Yeah.

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I mean, that's just frigging great, man.

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So, yeah.

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So I guess going forward, if let's do this.

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All right.

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So if anytime anyone ever leaves a review on Apple or something like that or that's

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a DM, if you want to be part of the wholesome content segment, let me know and I'll I'll

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do it on the show.

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Also real quick before we get into the actual episode starting this week, if you sign up

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for our Patreon, it's five dollars a month.

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You will get unedited video episodes of the show.

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Whoo.

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Because the shows that we record tend to be at least an hour.

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The actual episode that comes out is 40 to 30 minutes because we go off on things.

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Yeah.

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So, yeah.

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So I'll make sure to keep my shirt on so you don't see my giant pepperoni nipples.

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So starting starting this week, if you sign up for the Patreon, you will get unedited

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video episodes starting with last week's episode and this week's episode.

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So you get two for one this week if you sign up.

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It's only five dollars a month.

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Not that, you know, like is whatever.

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OK, Sarge, let's do it.

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We're 15 minutes in.

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This is already going to be a nightmare.

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We're so far off of.

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That's OK.

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That's OK.

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I'm so excited.

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I'm so ready.

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All right.

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My nipples are hard.

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Let's go.

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Sarge, I'm going to can I set the scene for you?

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Please do.

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All right.

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On a rural property.

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That's how drunk I am on a on a rural property in the Manitash Ridge, nine miles north of

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Ellensburg, Washington, a man made a discovery so big that for the past 30 years, 30 years

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has gripped the paranormal and conspiracy community with fascination and intrigue.

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And this mystery has got everything.

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It's got Black Hawk helicopters, clandestine government agents, a dead dog.

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I'm so in.

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And this all started.

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I hope the dog died of natural causes, otherwise going to be very mad at you.

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I don't know how it died, but all of this started on February 21st, 1997, when that

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man, the owner of this property, called into Coast to Coast A.M. to tell Art Bell.

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I love Art Bell.

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He called Coast to Coast A.M. to tell Art Bell about his hole.

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This man's name is Mel Waters.

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And today we are going to be covering the mystery that is Mel's hole.

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Are you familiar with Mel's hole?

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We're so mature.

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Let's be mature for a second.

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Are you familiar with Mel's hole?

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I have not been inside Mel's hole.

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I texted you saying I was going to regret this episode because it's going to be so mature.

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Did I not say that to you?

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You did say it.

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And frankly, you didn't disappoint.

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I'm so excited about this.

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Tell me more about Mel's hole.

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I want to know everything.

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Does it require?

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Is there an echo?

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Surprisingly no.

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And we will go over that.

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No echo in Mel's hole.

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So all right, let's all just take a breath.

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So the story of Mel's holes is a rather unbelievable one.

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The only source of information about the hole and the surrounding mystery.

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The only source of information is some unverified writings on the on the wall of a public restroom.

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The only source of information about the hole and the surrounding mystery are from Mel and

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his numerous calls to Art Bell over the past few years.

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And while Coast to Coast AM is somewhat iffy source, it's kind of like, it's like all we

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got as far as this goes.

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So without any further delay, Sarge, are you ready?

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It's not my fault.

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You're talking to me about Mel's hole.

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I just wanted to listen.

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So any further?

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No more about the hole.

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How deep is it?

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Are you ready?

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Are you ready to dive into Mel's hole?

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Yes.

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Yes.

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I am so ready.

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Mel, I want to be inside your hole, buddy.

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So according to Mel, located somewhere on his property, there's a big hole in the ground,

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obviously.

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It's roughly nine feet in diameter with a retaining wall made of stone that goes down

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roughly 15 feet.

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And then after that, it's just like pure unadulterated darkness.

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Now, Mel and the owners of the property before him just assumed that it was like an old well

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of sorts.

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And both the previous owners, as well as his neighbors and Mel, used the hole as like a

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trash pit.

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They would throw like old tires, old refrigerators, like just like washing machines.

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And just any sort of like big debris or household trash, it just went straight into the pit.

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Yeah, I mean, why the fuck not?

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Exactly.

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But after a few years of this, Mel started thinking like, hey, man, we've been like all

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of us have been tossing things into this hole for like a good while now.

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Why isn't this thing filling up?

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And I feel bad for Mel.

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He's desperately trying to fill his hole and just nothing seems to be touching it.

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But he also thought like, why couldn't you hear anything ever hit the bottom?

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Like you said, you couldn't even hear an echo if you were to shout directly into Mel's hole.

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So Mel, being a curious guy, decided he was going to get to the literal bottom of this

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hole.

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Being the avid fisherman that he was, he grabbed a few large spools of fishing line and he

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grabbed a one pound weight and just went to where he just tied it around, tossed it, tossed

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in the line and let it unspool the full five thousand feet that the spool had on it into

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the hole.

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But it never reached the bottom.

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So he thought, well, maybe there's like water at the bottom.

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So he pulled the line back up.

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He attached a roll of lifesavers to the line and cast it down again.

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I don't know if he just had them on his person or if he went to the store by it either way.

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His thinking was that if there was water, they would come back up dissolved or at least

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like at the very least, like wet.

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Oh, I'm going to be honest with you.

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When you first said he was going to throw lifesavers in there, I was like, is he six?

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But they dropping him in there to see if they get wet.

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Like, OK, that that's actually a really good point.

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I didn't.

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I that's pretty that's redneck ingenuity.

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Right there.

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You know what I mean?

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Like he wanted to know if it was wet down there.

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And the best way to do that is, you know, throw something in there.

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It's OK.

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Yeah.

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All right, Mel, I feel like you underestimated your whole buddy.

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Could it help?

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Could it?

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You know, the the the weight would have come up wet, but that you whatever.

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But it's fine.

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But when he reeled the lifesavers back up, they were bone dry.

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So he attached another roll of five thousand foot fishing line onto the other five hundred

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foot fishing line to see if he could reach the bottom again.

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No about he does again and again until he ran out of spools of fishing line.

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And by this time, the length of the line was 80,000 feet.

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To put that into context, that is 15 miles into the ground with no bottom in sight.

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Right.

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Fucked up.

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But that's insane.

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Right.

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You got a deep ass hole, bro.

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That's what I'm saying.

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But besides the whole seeming bottomless, there were other things off about this pit.

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Like if Mel brought his radio out to the hole, like just to listen to music while he was

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experimenting with this hole, the wording, a little shoddy, smooth operator.

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Yeah.

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I should have worded this episode a lot better.

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I mean, typically when I'm messing around with a strange hole, I try to, you know, set

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the mood right.

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The signal would cut out and he would start getting broadcasts from somewhere else.

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One example he gave was that one day his radio started picking up what he called old timey

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music.

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So he decided to change the station to the baseball game.

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All seemed normal at first until he learns that the baseball game was being played in

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1967, which is 30 years earlier.

499
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,600
Now is that weird?

500
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:23,600
Yes.

501
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,640
Could have been a rebroadcast of an old game.

502
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:27,640
Sure.

503
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,000
But who listens to 30 year old baseball games?

504
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,160
You know what I mean?

505
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,560
Mel's dogs were also afraid to go near it.

506
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,800
And if you tried to get them closer, they would just straight up like dig their heels

507
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,400
into the ground and refuse to move.

508
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:40,400
And it wasn't just.

509
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,400
Yeah.

510
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:42,760
I mean, well, I mean, it's a good rule of thumb.

511
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:47,440
You genuinely don't want to involve, involve pets in your hole.

512
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,720
It's illegal.

513
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:50,720
Okay.

514
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,880
It does.

515
00:23:54,880 --> 00:24:00,080
But it wasn't just his dogs, his neighbors' dogs, as well as wildlife in general, just

516
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,800
did not fuck with this hole.

517
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,440
There was no insects around it.

518
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,440
Fuck me.

519
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:06,440
All right.

520
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:14,320
Birds flew around it and nature in general just avoided it at all costs.

521
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,440
That a bird never flew out of his hole is what you're saying.

522
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:18,440
It wouldn't even go near it.

523
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:19,920
It would fly around it.

524
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:25,280
But weirdly enough, plants grew very well around the hole.

525
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:29,280
Then when Mel was going around asking the neighbors if they noticed anything weird about

526
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:35,320
the hole, one of them told him one of the most redneck things that I have ever heard

527
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:36,960
in my entire life.

528
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:41,020
The neighbor told him that not long ago his dog had passed away.

529
00:24:41,020 --> 00:24:47,140
So he did what any good pet owner would do and lovingly and respectfully fucking yeeted

530
00:24:47,140 --> 00:24:50,200
that dead dog straight down the hole.

531
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,360
Just fucking call me.

532
00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:56,200
Let it go.

533
00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:01,320
So after just hooking his best friend into a bottomless pit like he's Gerard Butler in

534
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:08,080
the fucking 300, he saw his dog running through a little wooded area near the property line

535
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:12,140
and he knew it was his dog because it was wearing the same collar.

536
00:25:12,140 --> 00:25:17,400
He tried calling out, but the dog didn't respond and acted like it didn't even know who he

537
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:18,400
was.

538
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,160
Well, of course the dog didn't respond.

539
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,560
You just threw it in a hole.

540
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:22,880
That was exactly what I wrote down.

541
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:29,120
And I was like, yeah, dude, you just fucking chucked it down a well.

542
00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:33,120
I mean, my dog loves the shit out of me, but I'm pretty sure if I kicked her into a giant

543
00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:36,760
gaping hole in the ground, she's not going to be my best friend anymore.

544
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:37,760
Right.

545
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,160
Like even dogs have standards.

546
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,160
Sorry, I love you.

547
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,400
Love you to death.

548
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:47,640
But if you were to eat me into a bottomless pit and somehow inter-dimensionally came back

549
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,440
through and like was in the woods, right.

550
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,800
I'd be like, I'm going to get away.

551
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,280
I'm not going to come over to you.

552
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:55,280
Fuck you, dude.

553
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:56,280
But I'll say it was dead.

554
00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,000
So I don't know anyways, but anyways, honestly, like I would come up if you had done that

555
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,000
to me, right.

556
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,320
If you thrown me into a hole and I popped through like an interdimensional portal and

557
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,880
came out somewhere else, I'd be like, dude, you got to try this.

558
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,200
I mean, that would be, let's go check it out.

559
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,120
But also you were dead and now you're alive.

560
00:26:12,120 --> 00:26:13,880
So I feel like the dog should be grateful.

561
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,640
He just, you did him a favor, right?

562
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:17,640
Exactly.

563
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:22,800
And also the disrespect.

564
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,720
But anyways, after more fishing line, more stories from neighbors about weird things

565
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,960
surrounding the hole and now interdimensional dogs popping up left and right, it was becoming

566
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,600
a little too much for Mel and he decided it was time to reach out for some advice.

567
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:40,720
And he did that by being a call in guest on coast to coast AM with Art Bell.

568
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:46,800
Now as soon as there's no other place you can go to get reasonable hot takes on things

569
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,360
than to go to Art Bell on coast to coast AM.

570
00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:50,840
Art Bell's a fucking legend.

571
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,040
I will never speak ill of Art Bell.

572
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,040
RIP.

573
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,040
Who was the guy before him?

574
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,160
You know, it was Art Bell and then it was George Norrie.

575
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,160
Oh, that's right.

576
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,440
George Norrie was the guy after Art Bell.

577
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:01,440
Yeah.

578
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:02,440
I love both of them.

579
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,480
George Norrie's fucking, Art Bell's.

580
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:10,760
If you want someone to believe you immediately on no matter how crazy what you're about to

581
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,160
say is that's George Norrie.

582
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,560
Coast to coast AM is a place to go.

583
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,360
George Norrie always believes everyone.

584
00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:16,360
Art Bell.

585
00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:20,000
I think he played into it because he was a showman and he's really good at what he did.

586
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,200
And he because like we'll get into it later on.

587
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,200
Trust me.

588
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,200
Yeah.

589
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,920
But as soon as Art Bell's audience heard the story, like at least the story up to now,

590
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,400
it instantly became like a hot topic.

591
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,280
And at first, like this was a good thing.

592
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,400
People were giving Mel good advice on what to do to like, like to determine like the

593
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:43,600
depth of the hole, like using lasers or sonar to try and measure the depth, things like

594
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:44,600
that.

595
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,200
And then the downside coast to coast.

596
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,760
I don't know if people know this, but coast to coast is listened to by like millions of

597
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,160
people worldwide.

598
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,160
Yeah.

599
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:58,200
And thanks to context clues given by Mel on his appearance on the show, that means that

600
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:08,240
like millions of people now have like a pretty good general idea of where of where Mel's hole

601
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:15,360
and his property were located and not just fans of Art Bell's program, but the government

602
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:16,360
as well.

603
00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:20,520
See, so Mel's first appearance on Coast to Coast wasn't very long.

604
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:21,520
It was like an hour.

605
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,840
You want to keep the government out of your hole for the most part.

606
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:32,560
It was that that rings truer now than it did in 1997.

607
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,280
Mel's first appearance on Coast to Coast wasn't very long.

608
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,040
It's like an hour or so.

609
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:41,440
And in the first call, he disclosed that he wasn't on the property at the time that he

610
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,880
was giving the interview, but he was actually in the nearby city of Ellensburg for a couple

611
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,740
days and he did the interview from there.

612
00:28:47,740 --> 00:28:52,600
But when it was time for Mel to return home, he headed up to the access road that led to

613
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,640
his property and it found that it was blocked off by the military.

614
00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:02,480
And he'd also noticed that evidence of some heavy machinery that had been brought through

615
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:07,920
it, I'm assuming like tracks, like caterpillar tracks, like up to the thing.

616
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,840
So Mel was he asked like, what's going on?

617
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:15,920
It was told that there had been a plane crash on this property and he couldn't go home even

618
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,120
though there had been like no reports of a downed plane.

619
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,560
And as far as Mel could tell, there was no there was any evidence of anything like a

620
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:23,560
red light.

621
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:24,560
There was no smoke.

622
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,440
There was no fire like you couldn't see anything.

623
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:27,440
Do we know?

624
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:28,440
Do we know?

625
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:29,440
Serious question.

626
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,720
Do we know how big how big Mel's property was?

627
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:38,800
Yes, but is this like acres and acres of property or it's like a ranch.

628
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,040
OK, kind of deal.

629
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:46,200
Now Mel was told that he wouldn't be able to return home until the crash was cleaned

630
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,920
up and fully investigated like an investigation had been done.

631
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,600
And well, Mel, he didn't like that answer so much.

632
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:59,160
So he demanded to speak to someone in charge as I feel like we wanted to talk to the manager.

633
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,160
I get it.

634
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,760
I feel like this is the one time we're being a Karen might actually pay off.

635
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:05,760
I mean, it's his property.

636
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:06,760
Exactly.

637
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:11,080
I'd be fucking furious if the government was like, no, no, no, you can't go in your own

638
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,080
yard.

639
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,080
I'd be like, go fuck yourself.

640
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,080
I own this property.

641
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,080
You can't just.

642
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,080
Yeah.

643
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:17,080
My home is there.

644
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,080
My food is going to go bad.

645
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,080
You're going to you're going to replace my milk.

646
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,080
Milk is expensive.

647
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,080
Yeah.

648
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,080
Like, what the fuck?

649
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,080
That's messed up.

650
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,080
Uh huh.

651
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:29,960
So he demanded to speak to someone in charge and he was soon met by a man in plain civilian

652
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:37,680
clothes and was told that he could not access the land and that as of now, the land technically

653
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,240
wasn't his anymore.

654
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:46,240
And he told Mel that if he didn't leave right away, they might just happen upon a drug lab

655
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,360
or a weapon stash, something somewhere on Mel's property.

656
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:56,880
Mel said, fuck that and threatened to go to the press about all of this, to which the

657
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,040
man was like, fucking dude, go ahead.

658
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,240
No one's going to believe you.

659
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,240
But see, that's where for it.

660
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,240
That's where he was wrong.

661
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:10,240
OK, Mel did go to the press and there were people that did believe him.

662
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:17,920
And that newslet again was Coast to Coast.

663
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:24,960
So just you want to find you want to find people who completely believe that you've

664
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,860
got a very unique hole.

665
00:31:26,860 --> 00:31:33,640
There's a couple of places you can go besides only fans and Coast to Coast AM is the way

666
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:34,640
to go.

667
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:35,640
Yeah.

668
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:42,480
Now, just a few days after this encounter with this deep state operative, deep state

669
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,480
operative, sorry.

670
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,320
That's OK.

671
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,640
Art Bell actually called up Mel for an update.

672
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:57,200
Sarge, it's with this second call that we will pick back up for part two and dive deeper

673
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:02,240
into Mel's hole hole.

674
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,080
I'm going to suit up and I'm going in.

675
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,400
I had to do it.

676
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:07,400
Holy shit.

677
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:08,400
I didn't even realize it.

678
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,000
I was so wrapped up in the story that it's three.

679
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,560
We've been recording for like 40 minutes.

680
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:16,560
Yeah.

681
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:17,560
Yeah.

682
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,520
Well, it says 32 minutes, but that's fine.

683
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,960
Oh, no, we've been doing it.

684
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,560
Oh, ready.

685
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:26,560
Yeah.

686
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:31,920
So no, that's a good place to leave off because this is going to go for a bit and I want more

687
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:32,960
of Mel's hole.

688
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:40,280
But this story goes on so fucking long that it is like the I want to gaze into Mel's hole.

689
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,960
It's not even like you're a big fan of like the paranormal.

690
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:49,200
And you told me that you've done episodes of your podcast and like QAnon conspiracies

691
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,200
and all this stuff.

692
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:57,120
And I feel like this like this story fits into all of that because it is it is in 97.

693
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,380
There wasn't you couldn't do online conspiracy.

694
00:32:59,380 --> 00:33:02,680
You couldn't do a QAnon style conspiracy in 1997.

695
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:03,680
You could.

696
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,560
But it was like, oh, yeah, no, you had to go to like you had to go to like gun shows

697
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,080
and there's some shady dude handing out pamphlets.

698
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,080
Yeah.

699
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,880
Who's wearing like Vietnam era camouflage and coast to coast was really good.

700
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:18,560
And I think that's the thing about like at least with Art Bell, not with George Norrie,

701
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:23,000
George Norrie literally believes everything that is ever said to him.

702
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:30,760
Art Bell was very much a skeptic, but he didn't turn away people's stories.

703
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,520
He he's like he's like me.

704
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,320
We're like, if he doesn't believe the story, he's not going to straight out tell you.

705
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,720
But he does believe that you believe something has happened.

706
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:38,720
You know what I mean?

707
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:39,720
Exactly.

708
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:40,720
He was Art Bell was a showman.

709
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:41,720
George Norrie is a fucking shill.

710
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:42,720
Yeah.

711
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,720
I hate to say it, but I agree with you.

712
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:52,600
The thing is, I'm I'm a huge skeptic, but at the same time, you have to recognize that

713
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,880
there are going to be things I think would be incredibly arrogant to be the kind of person

714
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,120
who like just believes you know everything.

715
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:03,400
And I always find myself like somebody will say something kind of crazy.

716
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,120
And I'm like, wow, you're out of your mind.

717
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,120
And then in my head, I'm like, wait a minute, wait a minute.

718
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:14,160
Just because it sounds a little crazy doesn't make it completely untrue.

719
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,000
Maybe I just don't understand it yet.

720
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,160
Maybe I need to learn a little bit more.

721
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:23,040
And there have been so many times where I have heard something crazy and then looked

722
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,040
into it a little bit and been like, you know what?

723
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,360
You know, it's not real, but there's some real elements to it.

724
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:30,360
Yeah.

725
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:31,760
I'm the same way with conspiracy theories.

726
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,200
Like I I don't believe conspiracy theories.

727
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,200
Do I?

728
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:37,200
Yeah, me neither.

729
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,200
Do I entertain them?

730
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,680
I do in a sense that I don't entertain that they're real.

731
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,040
I do in the sense that they're entertaining to me.

732
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,040
Yes.

733
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,040
And I do.

734
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,360
And I do understand that people will believe them.

735
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,480
And I actually have been trying to reach out to people because May.

736
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:51,960
Wait, where are you?

737
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:52,960
This is May, right?

738
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:53,960
Are we in May?

739
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:54,960
Yeah.

740
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:55,960
May?

741
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:56,960
Still.

742
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:57,960
May has just started.

743
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:58,960
May is Mental Health Awareness Month.

744
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,760
And I do want to try and get someone who is more of an expert than us on I want to have

745
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:07,560
a good discussion on conspiracy thought and why people get into conspiracy thought.

746
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:08,560
Yes.

747
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,440
And I'm working on that now.

748
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,940
So hopefully by the end of the month, we'll have like a good mental health awareness style

749
00:35:14,940 --> 00:35:16,320
episode on that.

750
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,240
That's I'm in.

751
00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:26,160
But I feel like this like coast to coast AM is a good.

752
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:31,520
Coast to coast AM is a good breaking point from where you go from like the coast to coast

753
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,680
is where you go when you're like intrigued by aliens and conspiracy thoughts.

754
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:41,840
But it's a weird gateway drug because I listened to coast to coast AM because it was entertaining

755
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,880
and it was funny.

756
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:48,720
Coast to coast other listeners, they'll listen to coast to coast and then they'll branch

757
00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:52,040
off and they'll take it seriously and they'll go to.

758
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,640
And then Alex Jones becomes something that doesn't sound as crazy.

759
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,640
They'll go to Alex Jones or even later on.

760
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:06,160
Like nowadays, it's like Steven Crowder or like who's that dude that was with Kanye fucking

761
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:12,960
Fuentes, Nick Fuentes, that kind of stuff like coast to coast AM has that weird thing.

762
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:21,320
But Mel's hole was one of those things where like God damn episode two, we got to tighten

763
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:22,320
it up.

764
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:23,320
We got to tighten it up.

765
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:24,880
You got to tighten that hole up.

766
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:25,880
You got to tighten that hole up.

767
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,440
Yeah, but it's too loose.

768
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:28,760
The hole is too loose.

769
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:33,440
But Mel's hole, like it's one of those things that like it didn't matter if it was like

770
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:39,680
a are like people truly like were like kind of concerned for this man.

771
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,120
Like it was like a weird thing.

772
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,200
Like they people rallied around him.

773
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,200
You know what I mean?

774
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,080
Like I'm going to say this and it's going to sound funny.

775
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,760
I don't mean it to be funny.

776
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,680
People wanted to get to the bottom of Mel's hole.

777
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,400
Yeah, no, they did.

778
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:52,400
They did.

779
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:53,400
Yeah.

780
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:54,400
And I'm not saying that to be a smart ass.

781
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,400
It's going to sound funny.

782
00:36:55,400 --> 00:37:00,720
The truth is, I want to know what the fucking deal with the with Mel's hole is like, I want

783
00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:02,720
to know what's going on in there.

784
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:03,720
Well, God damn it.

785
00:37:03,720 --> 00:37:07,280
I can't you can't help it, but sound ridiculous when you say Mel's hole.

786
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,680
So you know, it's fucked up is that it's not fucked up.

787
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:10,680
It's cool.

788
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:16,240
But Mel's hole actually inspired a TV show starring Josh Brolin.

789
00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:17,240
And it's on Amazon.

790
00:37:17,240 --> 00:37:18,240
Season.

791
00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:19,840
What's it called?

792
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,840
Season two comes out this week.

793
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:22,980
It's called Outer Range.

794
00:37:22,980 --> 00:37:23,980
It's really good.

795
00:37:23,980 --> 00:37:24,980
OK.

796
00:37:24,980 --> 00:37:26,200
It's literally Mel's hole.

797
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:31,920
Like it's like it's you can't watch the watch season one.

798
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,000
Now knowing the story.

799
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,000
That's what I'll check it out.

800
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,760
It's good.

801
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,940
But spoiler alert for episode two.

802
00:37:41,940 --> 00:37:44,320
There might be more than one of Mel's holes.

803
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,080
Mel's Mel's got more than one hole.

804
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,960
He said double penetration situation.

805
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,400
Mel may have more than one hole.

806
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,960
He's just getting filled out like an application, isn't he?

807
00:37:54,960 --> 00:38:00,280
I think that's a good deal.

808
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,720
I want to put I want to put my finger Mel's hole.

809
00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:10,760
Well, I can't give you any spoilers, so we're just going to move on.

810
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,760
All right.

811
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,400
Thank you so much for listening, everyone.

812
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,160
Sorry for how immature this episode.

813
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:23,400
I'm a big child, guys, and I apologize for my behavior.

814
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:28,120
I am being serious when I say I genuinely do want to know how where this story goes,

815
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,880
because I'm actually very fascinated now.

816
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,240
I've never heard of this before.

817
00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:32,520
This might be a three partner.

818
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:33,520
There's a lot to this.

819
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:34,520
I'm OK with that.

820
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,520
I'm along for the ride.

821
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,480
I now have learned that I got to choose my words carefully.

822
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:48,200
There's a lot going on in all things.

823
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,200
So it might be a three party.

824
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:54,560
Anyways, if you want to follow us on Instagram, follow us at Crypto Cocktail,

825
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,960
Tick Tock Crypto Cocktail Party.

826
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:01,720
If you want to follow Sarge on all of his social medias, you can do that by following

827
00:39:01,720 --> 00:39:04,560
the link tree in the Crypto Cocktail Instagram.

828
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:09,480
Sarge, you got anything you want to plug?

829
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:10,960
Yes.

830
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,960
Citizens Guide to the Supernormal, my podcast.

831
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,880
We went on hiatus for a long time.

832
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,600
We are coming out with a new episode.

833
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,720
I don't know exactly when it's going to drop.

834
00:39:21,720 --> 00:39:26,680
It'll probably drop before.

835
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,000
Our next episode drops, but that's OK.

836
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,800
I'm going to let you know about it when we record next week.

837
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,080
I will let you know when Citizens Guide to the Supernormal is coming out.

838
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,080
Hell yeah.

839
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,080
We are.

840
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:43,560
Our first episode is actually going to be about execution methods because we like to

841
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:44,920
cover weird shit.

842
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:53,800
So it's Citizens Guide to the Supernormal and we are on all podcast platforms as well.

843
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,000
So yeah, I'll keep you guys posted.

844
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,000
But that's coming up.

845
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:02,640
I'm working with Maynard, who is actually my next door neighbor, and his lovely wife,

846
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:03,640
Laura.

847
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:09,760
And we are not as well researched as this podcast, but we do like to make immature jokes.

848
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:14,520
So Mel's Hole is certainly going to be something that we are all going to listen to and laugh

849
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:15,520
about.

850
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:16,520
Yeah.

851
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:17,520
But yeah, thank you.

852
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:22,160
Find us on Instagram and all the other socials and Citizens Guide to the Supernormal should

853
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,200
be coming out soon.

854
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,200
Awesome.

855
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:31,760
And if you want to support us on Patreon, me and Sarge, and by that I mean me.

856
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:32,760
Just kidding.

857
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,240
Yeah, just him really, because he's got to pay for the show.

858
00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:38,320
I just I just show up.

859
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,320
He does all the work.

860
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:40,320
It's a yeah.

861
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,320
I'm emotional support.

862
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:42,320
I'm an emotional support, Sarge.

863
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:43,320
Patreon.com.

864
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,880
Go to the cocktail party and it's five dollars a month.

865
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:55,240
You'll get unedited full video of the show.

866
00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:58,640
And I think that's you know, we'll and then we'll come up with some other stuff, maybe

867
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,680
some stickers, but it doesn't matter.

868
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,400
Either way, it's five dollars a month.

869
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:03,400
I'm happy.

870
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:08,400
I'm happy to like, I don't know, have a weird reaction to a statement for you on video.

871
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,880
You want me to wish somebody a happy birthday that I don't know?

872
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,480
Yeah, I'll do whatever.

873
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,120
Yeah, he'll literally do whatever for five dollars.

874
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,800
It doesn't matter what it is.

875
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,720
Yeah, I've got I'll show you my nipples.

876
00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:22,720
We'll do that.

877
00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:23,720
All right, sorry.

878
00:41:23,720 --> 00:41:24,720
Do you want to say goodbye to everyone?

879
00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:49,720
I love you.

