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Can I do the intro? Sure. How about it?

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What's going on, guys? It's your host, Nick Eintzman of Cryptid Cocktail.

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It's a show where we have a few drinks,

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have a few laughs and talk about the spooky and the unknown, a.k.a.

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Cryptids. Joined today by the guy who's always on the show, David Prescott.

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David, how are you?

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That was a horrible introduction.

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You know, can I give it a go real quick?

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Oh, by all means, hit it up.

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All right.

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Hey, everybody.

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Welcome back to another episode of Cryptid Cocktail, part of your show,

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where we have a few drinks, share a few laughs, take a dive

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into the unknown. I'm your host, Dave.

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And today I'm joined by Nick.

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What's up, man?

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Oh, you know, it's

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I'm already exacerbated. This is a lot.

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Well, you know, I lost the mustache to the great wars of depression.

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And here we are, mustache lists.

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Oh, that's that's that's our fucking Vietnam right there.

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Just everyone in this generation.

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It's just that's our generation.

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Just like that one song by.

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Basement? No, it's it's like with you.

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You know what it is, that meme song that's going on right now.

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It's one of those Midwestern emo bands.

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That's just a one word name of a object.

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Oh, yeah. And the intro is like something from like Freaks and Geeks

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or that 70s show or it's like a super deep, super dramatic line.

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And then it goes into like a very melodic breakdown.

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Yeah. Yeah, that's.

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Panucci's pizza.

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That's finest. Yeah.

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Panucci's pizza is so good.

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But yeah. How you doing, bud?

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You're doing all right.

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I know. I know you got you got you got no mustache now due to the.

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I got no mustache to the war of depression of 2024.

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Things are good, man. Listen, I got no complaints.

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Yeah, just living, grooving, living moss.

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All right.

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I'm going to be so exhausted by the end of this episode.

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I could already tell you're here.

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You're you're you're on one today, Nick.

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I can already tell it's going to this is going to be a good episode.

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All right, Nick. Well, I'm glad you're in a good mood.

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Kind of, I guess, considering you you're in the throes of depression.

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Aren't we all, though?

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I'm telling you, all things considered, I'm in a very good mood.

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Thank you for having me on, Dave. I do appreciate it.

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Well, I know I wanted you on because this episode is technically for you.

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And honestly, if I'm being honest, it is your it was your idea.

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What do you think it is? I want to know what you think it is.

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Well, you told me that it was like something about UFOs.

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Yes. And being that are both from New England.

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Yeah. Are we touching the Benny and Barney?

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Are we touching Betty and Barney Hill?

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No, you were so far off.

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Fuck. All right, Nick, do you remember the Falkville

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Metal Man episode we did, which is, by the way, over a year old at this point,

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which is fucking wild.

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I do indeed remember Falkville Metal Man.

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Tinfoil Man lives.

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Well, in that episode, I offhandedly mentioned another incident

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that led you to say probably one of the funniest things

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that I've ever heard said on this show.

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And here I'll I'll play the clip to see if you can.

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If you if it jogs any memories, you're ready.

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No, I was born ready.

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So there's definitely, you know, at some point.

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All these connections of like, oh, this guy saw a metal man.

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Well, like these two, you know, a groomer and his groomy

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also saw this metal man about six days before.

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You know, he's probably linked these three up

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and probably keep the 46 year old away from the 26 year old

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and the 17 year old.

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But it was but those two were actually abducted and they said that they were.

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I want to hear their story. Well.

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I don't know. Is there anything?

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Although there is.

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I just didn't write an episode for it.

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Well, Nick, today I did write that episode.

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And today we are going to be discussing the Pascogula

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abduction incident.

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Let's go.

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Oh, my God, I was so far off.

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I do got some corrections up top, though.

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He wasn't a groomer and a groupie.

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He he was

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19 years old and they worked together.

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But we'll get into all that.

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I just want to say that so we don't get sued by whoever might listen to it.

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But yeah, so this is for you.

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You wanted this episode over a year ago, and I'm only now coming

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coming true on that promise.

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Are you ready to dive in?

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I'm super ready to dive in on this one. All right.

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So located in Jackson County, Mississippi, Pascogula,

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which I'm pretty sure is how you pronounce it.

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I had Google pronounce it for me.

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And even then, I don't know if the robot got it right.

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But Pascogula is located right where the Pascogula River

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drains out into the Gulf of Mexico.

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Now, while the city of Pascogula has a decent number of residents,

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roughly 20,000, it's not like a huge city by any means.

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I mean, Dover, New Hampshire, where we're from, has about like 34,000.

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And I think we came from a relatively smaller town.

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If you know, like that makes sense.

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Like, let's let's agree with that. Yeah.

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Let's put it this way.

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According to TripAdvisor, and I had to use TripAdvisor

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because Pascogula isn't on TripHobo.com,

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the number one trusted site for all of your travel needs.

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But but according to officially sponsored.

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But according to TripAdvisor, two out of the top ten attractions

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in Pascogula are a big lots and a Walmart, which I mean,

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coming from a town that size, which also sits on a river, I get it.

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But something else very notable happened to Pascogula

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that became kind of a big deal and not just a UFO community,

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but was kind of a big deal across the country.

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And that is the alleged abduction of Charles Hickson and Calvin Parker

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that was said to have occurred in 1973.

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Now, are you are you familiar with this at all?

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Besides the details that I gave you in the other episode,

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which were kind of not that true.

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No, I mean, I know I looked into it a little bit like after the fact,

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but that was a year ago, and I can better remember what I did a week ago.

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So now not in the slightest bit.

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OK, so on October 11th, 1973,

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42 year old Charles Hickson and Calvin Parker, who was 19 at the time

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and not 17, like I said in the Metal Man episode,

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decided to do a little fishing together after their shift.

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They wanted they were fishing for hard heads,

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which I learned is a type of sea catfish.

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So yes, there's your hard heads are nasty.

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Yeah, I don't know anything about them.

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It's a nasty fish.

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I feel like all I feel like all catfish are especially I mean, like

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maybe that's not true.

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But I've I've watched that show on the Discovery Channel where they go up

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with it, noodling, where they fucking throw their fingers in there.

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They just show their whole fist in a fish's mouth.

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Fuck that.

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Listen, they don't fuck around down there.

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This is a whole other game.

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It's all a nightmare, though.

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It's just all bad.

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Like, it's not.

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It's never fun.

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Like the people that I know that go fishing regularly up here, like

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they're not having fun with it.

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They're doing it to get away from their problems.

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Down south, they're fisting their problems.

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It's true.

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I mean, I guess.

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Yeah, I guess fishing in like in New England is like

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it's just an excuse to get away from the family and get black out on a boat.

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There's no other reason to do it besides that.

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I feel like. All right, Nick.

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I'm here. I'm listening.

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Just making sure you thought you were dead for a second.

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No, I dropped my phone on my cat. All right.

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So these two, they set up shop near an old grain elevator

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that was located along the shore of the Pascagoula River.

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After casting out a few times and not getting any bites in return,

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Charles had suggested that they try another spot,

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that spot being the iron piers near the old shop at her shipyard.

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Once they relocated, the pair got settled in and were about to commence

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with fishing when something strange caught their eye.

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They both noticed what was described as a bluish oblong orb.

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That's oblong orb doesn't really make sense, but you get.

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It's not a good name. Yeah.

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That seemed to be pulsating in the night sky.

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At first, they were just more intrigued by it.

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Like, huh, look at that. That's kind of weird.

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Because at this point, according to Charles, it was like two, maybe three miles away.

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Could be anything at that point, you know.

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I mean, a blue light in the sky, two to three miles away could just be fucking

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anything, you know what I mean? They just right there was like, well, that's weird.

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But that feeling of intrigue quickly turned to pantshitting

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fear when the object was suddenly a hundred feet away from them

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and only a few feet above the water.

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Well, yeah.

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Like, imagine that you're out with your buddy, like from work, your work friends.

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You're not like great friends, right?

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Well, I guess I found out that Calvin, the younger one,

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was friends with Charles's son and they and Calvin and Charles

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just both happened to work together.

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So they already had like already kind of like a relationship.

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OK. You know what I mean? So.

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They say you're just going out with your your friend's creepy dad

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that you also work with.

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Nothing weird about that. Yeah, you know.

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But yeah, so they see that thing and then like I get like it's far away.

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Cool. That looks weird.

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And then all of a sudden it's a hundred feet in front of you

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and it's just hovering above the water. Not ideal.

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No, no, by any means.

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And that's the issues, you know, you never know what you're going to get on the water.

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That's just a water thing.

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It's the sea facts.

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If you're on the ocean, you're on the lake.

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The tides could be angry that day.

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Fair enough. Now, when describing the encounter to Sheriff Fred Diamond,

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Charles Hickson described the object as being roughly eight feet tall,

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oblong in shape, and the only lights he could see coming from it

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was that previously mentioned blue light.

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And he said it was emitting some sort of like humming noise.

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Now, I'm going to assume like oblong, you know more about UFOs

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than I probably will ever know.

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But oblong in shape, I'm going to assume that's what people would call

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like a cigar shaped UFO.

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Yeah, it's kind of weird that it was that they labeled it as a blue oblong.

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I feel like it should be classified as a cigar, cigar shaped UFO.

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All right. Well, that well, that those were his words.

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I'm sure back in whenever this happened, it wasn't like the word cigar shaped

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UFO probably wasn't in the mainstream.

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You know what I mean?

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Not that it is now.

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Fucking only me and you and nerds know that.

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Now, staring down the barrel of a fucking UFO when all you want to do

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is just relax, have a couple of slits and fish with your young male companion

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wasn't fucking terrifying enough.

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This.

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This shit gets even.

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Hello, this is Cole, my young male companion.

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He's friends with my son.

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No, no officer, it's fine.

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He's he's a friend of my son.

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He's a friend of mine.

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I've known him since he was nine.

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We've gone fishing every day since then, but shit gets even wilder.

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Oh, they were something.

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And for what happens next, I'm just going to quote

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what Charles had said about what happened next, because I can't describe it

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any more eloquently than him.

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He says, quote, a door opened and this brilliant light came out of it.

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I couldn't figure out what in the world was happening.

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And all of a sudden, right in the end of it, this opening was laid up there.

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And three of them just floated out of the thing.

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They were they wasn't on no ground.

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He then continued on saying, quote,

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they were about five feet tall, had bullet shaped heads without necks,

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slits for mouth and where their noses and ears would be.

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They had thin conical objects sticking out like carrots from a snowman's head.

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They had no eyes, gray, wrinkled skin, round feet and claw like hands.

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They didn't have toes, but they had they had feet shape.

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It was more or less just a round like thing on a leg, if you call it that.

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End quote.

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You look bumped out.

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It's not it's not an ideal description of anything.

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It's like a metal man that meets like Sam, the sundown clan or the.

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Yeah, Sam, the clown.

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And I don't like it.

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It also kind of reminds you of the bullet guy from Mario.

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OK, head legs.

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Yeah. Well, yeah, the bullets straight up, though.

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Do you I can I can't send you a picture right now.

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But if you look up the Pascaguala alien, it doesn't look good up right now.

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Pascaguala abduction. All right, let's see it.

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Oh, God. Yeah, it's not.

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It's not. Oh, that is fucking ugly.

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It has it's like three spikes coming out of its face.

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So it looks like a medieval torture device come to life, kind of.

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That's it. There's a cool like picture I see of the two male companions.

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And then there's a picture of them, actually.

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And there's an Etsy little figure of him for one hundred and thirty six dollars.

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I might buy that. That's actually pretty cool.

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Of the Pascaguala alien. Yeah, I said Pascaguala Pascagula.

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I keep saying Pascagula.

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It's pretty sick. It's pretty damn cool.

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You did. So the reason why we brought this up in the Metal Man episode

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is because this this happened just days before the Metal Man incident.

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So there there are some kind of things that coincide as far as like

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mannerisms and how they acted that are kind of Metal Man ish.

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So like by now, the three aliens were hovering around Charles and Calvin.

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These things hover, apparently.

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They had feet, but they hover. It's weird.

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Charles says their upper bodies moved in what he described as a herky jerky motion,

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much like how the Falkville Metal Man was described as moving.

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And then once surrounded, one of the creatures, quote unquote, spoke.

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And by spoke, it made a series of buzzing noises

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that Charles thought was an attempt to put the men at ease.

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Like, we're not here to harm you.

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But considering what happens next, I think that he was giving orders

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to the other two aliens because.

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So you don't think it was like an ASMR buzz? Like a.

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No, it was not like that

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because after this attempt at, quote unquote, communication,

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two of the beings who remained silent the whole time floated behind Charles,

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grabbed him with their pincer like hands and picked him up.

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Now, Charles said that they didn't use any force when they picked him up,

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almost as if they had some sort of like anti gravity thing going on.

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I don't know. Like when they picked him up, he didn't feel any pressure.

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When they like he just they wrapped their arm.

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Yeah, you just kind of just didn't just floated, which is fucking not going to lie.

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I want to like is that you don't know.

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We're on two different sets of the spectrum.

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You know what that reminds me of?

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It reminds me of it reminds me of like a not close encounters

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of the third kinds where they just hold his hand.

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They walk Richard Draves under the ship.

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But that God awful movie with the cage at the end of the movie,

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like the end of the world and then all the little children get like, oh, knowing.

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Yeah, I don't like it.

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That movie so bad or good.

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I don't really know. It's not good, but that's what it reminds me of.

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Yeah. This that's that's that's one of those Nick Cage movies

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where I don't know if it's bad or good.

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I feel like that's the most Nick Cage movies and I'm here for it.

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So so while the other two were busy grabbing Charles,

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the third grabbed Calvin, who upon being grabbed by the aliens,

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just fucking conked out.

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So he's done. He just immediately passed out either due to fear or shock, whatever.

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And I get it. He's a young kid.

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I'd probably I'd probably be shitting myself literally at this point by now.

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So now the three alien robot guys and the two men are floating effortlessly

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back to their ship, where Charles remembers being escorted into an empty

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but very brightly lit room.

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They released their grip on him and now he's just kind of floating.

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They didn't set him down on anything.

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They just kind of like hung him up like a fucking shirt.

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There are like in that scene in

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so it's a movie with the Texas Chainsaw Massacre,

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where he just lifts her up and puts on the meat hook.

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It's kind of like that, but with no meat.

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Oh, they didn't. OK, cool.

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That was my next question. As long as he wasn't inhaled.

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Well, unfortunately, it does get worse.

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So now he's hovering. Oh, God damn it.

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He's completely paralyzed and probably thinking like, fuck, I'm dead.

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This is it. No one's going to find my body.

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So now, while hovering in the air, Charles said that a mechanical

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football shaped eye, roughly seven inches in diameter, scanned his whole body.

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He described it as, quote, some kind of instrument.

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I don't know what it was.

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I didn't see anything that I could call an instrument that I've ever seen before.

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It wasn't like no X-ray machine.

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There ain't no way to describe it.

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It looked like an eye, like a big eye.

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It had some kind of an attachment to it.

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It moved right in front of my face.

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I saw dials and gadgets moving around.

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It went behind me, then came back over me.

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It went all over my body, up and down, and then it disappeared back into the wall.

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I was just about out of my mind.

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I thought they were going to kill me.

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Folks would think we fell in the river and drowned,

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and nobody would ever know about this.

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End quote, the way he describes this, it reminds me a lot of

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when C3PO and R2D2 go to Jabba's Palace

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and that fucking eyeball comes out of the door.

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Yes.

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They like that's what I had pictured in my head when he started to discuss like.

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Yeah, no, that's yeah, that sounds about alien techie as you can get.

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You know what I mean?

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Just a floating eyeball, just kind of, you know.

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Football shaped scanning up and down.

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Yeah, I don't know what it would what it was doing.

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I'm going to assume maybe just checking them out.

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No, just just, you know, what's your vibe like, bro?

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This is a vibe.

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Bro, it was it was, you know, it was it was checking him out.

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And if he liked what he saw, he was going to buy, you know, the boys a drink.

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Blue milk. Blue fucking god damn it.

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All right. Now there were times during all of this,

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and the creatures left Charles alone during all of this.

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And he assumes that this was so that they could go examine Calvin,

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who fortunately maybe can't remember what happened to him while he was aboard.

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Charles estimates that they were aboard this craft for 20,

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maybe 30 minutes when their captors escorted them off the ship

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and dropped them back off onto shore.

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Charles kind of snapped out of his shock pretty quickly.

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He was, if I remember correctly, a Korean war vet.

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So mentally, I think he was able to kind of deal with something like this

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and process it kind of quicker.

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Well, not this specifically, but you know, like traumatic events.

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Yeah, dramatically.

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He was able to, like, you know, deal with a little bit better.

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Yeah, you get what I'm saying.

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Sadly, Calvin, only being 19 years old, I don't think he was mentally capable

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because when Charles snapped back to reality, oh, there goes gravity.

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Gravity. You beat me to it.

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He saw his young friend like just a pile on the ground.

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He was shaking, weeping, praying.

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Charles ran over to his friend's aid to try and snap him out of it,

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even slapping him a couple of times to like break the days that he was in.

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When Calvin finally, like, was able to be released from the grip of shock,

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I guess, he said to Charlie, quote, What in the world was that?

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To which Charlie replied, quote, I don't know, son, but they didn't kill us.

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End quote. And Nick, that is where we will pick up for part two,

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where we will go over the aftermath of their encounter, the police report,

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media coverage and how it affected their lives.

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All that good stuff. Where are we at, Nick?

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Well, like, I got to imagine.

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So as a brief, like Facebook look up, yeah, like there's a Washington post

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about the 50 year anniversary of, you know, two Mississippi men are believed

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to be inducted. Just got to I imagine it's got to be pretty big in that small

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town of Mississippi.

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I don't like these aliens. I like the way they look.

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I like they describe them like they buzz.

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Yeah, it's not the way they look is what bothers me the most, because it does have

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Falkmille Falkmille of mental mental man vibes.

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But it's like, like I said, it's like a medieval torture device come to life.

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It's just like, yeah, wrinkly, gross, covered in spikes, kind of like it's just

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not ideal. No one wants to deal with this shit.

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It's all gross. Oh, God, no, it's all nasty.

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Yeah, but it's all nasty.

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So I don't know if you noticed this, but the entire time that I was in this

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episode, I kept saying Charlie said Charlie, according to his.

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So Charlie is the one that's like pushing the story a little bit more.

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Well, OK, Charlie kind of he ran with this Calvin.

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Right. He I don't think he he didn't even tell his wife until like five days late.

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Like it was like it was already like in the news at this point before he told his

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wife like what happened.

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Like he's he he only just recently, I think, 2018, maybe earlier than that,

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is when he finally like wrote a book about his experience.

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He was so hushed.

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Charlie, on the other hand, he went on game shows like he fucking.

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So he was he was trying to, you know, take it, twist it and profit off of it.

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Well, here's the thing for Charlie.

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Well, here's the thing, though, with Charlie and Calvin, their stories never

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change. Yeah, they might have.

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Like Charlie might have been more outspoken about his experience, but like

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to give them credit, Charlie and Calvin's story haven't changed since then.

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You know what I mean?

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Like he might have been trying to like make a buck or two.

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But according to his son, because there's a new a new series on Netflix now called

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Encounters or something like that.

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And the first episode is about the Pascagoula or Pascagoula incident.

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According to his son, people are saying that he did profit off of it.

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But according to his son, he said that whenever his dad went on speaking

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engagements or he went on all these things, he only asked for whatever the

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wages would be for a misday at work.

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So I don't know what to think about it.

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Unfortunately, Charles, RIP, he passed away not not too long ago.

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But I don't know.

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Pour one out for Charlie, folks.

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There is, like I said, their stories never changed is all good.

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But, dude, what happened, like the aftermath of this is wild.

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How quickly it spread.

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And it wasn't just like a regional news story like this went nationwide,

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even international.

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Like this was like a.

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So is it almost like a like a Travis Walton fire in the sky type thing where

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like that small town became a haven really quickly for UFO nuts?

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Not I wouldn't say that.

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But in the world of ufology, ufology, however you want to pronounce it,

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this is like a big case.

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And it's wild that we and you never like dived into that before this.

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You know what I mean?

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Like this is how do we how did we not know this story?

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How did we not get a hold of this one beforehand?

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Interesting. Very interesting.

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I'm also sorry that the cat clearly cannot be in the office without me.

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So I apologize if she's as she's knocking into my microphone.

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It's fine. It's cute.

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She's making this podcast her own.

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She's putting her scent on.

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She is something she is something.

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All right. And is there anything you want to add to this?

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Is there any comments, any questions, any?

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No, no. I mean, I'm pretty, pretty excited to see what part two holds.

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And I'll I won't watch encounters, even though that was what I was planning on

467
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doing tonight.

468
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But there's so much I'll watch one.

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I'll watch episode two.

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Perfect. But perfect.

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I will say that the next episode is going to be a little bit more

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interesting. The next episode is going to be more informational, less alien.

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Does that make sense?

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I'm here for it. Yeah.

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OK. All right.

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But I love that for me.

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I love that for you, too.

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David, always a pleasure.

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You're a good guy.

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You're you're you're a phenomenal human being.

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Well, I guess, Dick, do you want to plug before we?

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If you want to see terrible watches about time and watches, go follow us on

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Twitch.Nick or unlimited time dot LLC on Instagram.

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If you're looking for a watch or want to, you know, talk about watches that should

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help your lifestyle, shoot us a message or give us a call.

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Is that it? That's it.

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Thank God that's over. All right.

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If you want to follow me on Instagram,

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you can follow me at Crypto Cocktail.

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Follow me on TikTok Crypto Cocktail Party.

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If you want to join the discord, follow the link in the description in my Instagram.

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It's very sad in there.

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If you do want to help support the show, we do have a Patreon

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www.patreon slash Crypto Cocktail Party, I think.

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Either way, five dollars a month helps keep the show going.

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But yeah, I think that's it.

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I don't got anything else to plug.

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Nick, do you want to say goodbye to everyone?

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It's been fun. It's been fun.

