Like they were they were in love, right?
I hope so
Because if they weren't if you make up your imaginary friend, you're not in absolutely in love with your imaginary friend
Why'd you make them up?
Hey everybody welcome back to another episode of cryptic cocktail party a show where we have a few drinks share a few laughs
Take a dive into the unknown. I'm your host Dave and once again for the third week in a row
I'm joined by the most handsome boy number two co-host of all time colby clark
What's going on?
What a sandwich compliment it was good, uh the most handsome boy, but
I just wanted to cut you a little bit. You are number two. Hey, that was after you nick that was spoken
By the fans. I had no say in this if I you're always my number one, right? You're my ride or die
I mean if i'm anything I want to be a man of the people so um, you know if the if the people have spoken
Then they've spoken
But you know nick i'm coming for your ass. Oh, so you call yourself a people pleaser then I mean
Is that what a man is that what a man of the people idiots? I have no idea way to way to twist my words
Yeah, right name three people that you've pleased colby. All right
Um
All right, good god, it's fine, uh, but no, how you doing bud?
I'm doing good. Yeah, good. You're looking good. Yeah, i'm just i'm just hanging at the house. Thank you. Um, I showered yesterday
Is that why your hair looks luscious today?
That's probably why it looks good. Look at them locks. I appreciate it. Yeah. Thank you. How are you? I'm doing all right. Um,
I got a sorry long story. Okay kind of long story. Uh,
So we have we have mice
Not like us pets. They're just at our house and right so unwanted. Yeah, so we got um
Like these like have heart trap things where they just go in and like a door shuts behind them and they're in there
So we're trying to capture this mouse and we decided that if we catch it
it's too cold to let it outside because we're
bleeding hearts and uh
So we bought a cage
All this stuff for it
And then when we finally captured the mouse it uh
It got out and ran away and we haven't seen it since so yesterday. We're oh no yesterday
We were like, well, we got to return all this shit to amazon because there was a we bought a lot of stuff for this
fucking mouse
Well, it's probably a good thing. Yeah, I said oh no, and then I was like well, didn't you want to let it go?
Yeah, but anyways, so kind of so instead of so we were in the process of like just starting the amazon returns
And then ali just goes but what if we just got a hamster? So now we have a hamster
Yes
It's a
Return of events a syrian dwarf hamster and we named him gimli after uh
The dwarf from lord of the rings. Perfect. It's cute. Love it
Oh, how is your cat doing? You got you got a new kitten. You have a name for it now. Yes, we do
um
I mean i've been saying bram
Uh, isn't like bram stoker because he's a little vampire
um
however
It might be brahm
I said brahm comes from abraham. I told ali is like oh they named they named it brahm after brahm stoker
She's like it's braham, but I think it's brahm stoker. Isn't it? Okay. All right
I'm 100 is this like niche is this I thought it was like the word niche. Yeah, it's like niche or niche
But it's definitely niche. Uh, but also yeah. All right. All right. I I think it's brahm when you sent it to me. That's how I
Assumed it was really okay. Yeah. All right
Maybe it's both moves like that fucking dress or is it bram fucked up the world. Is it bram stoker?
It's brahm stoker. I feel like i've always said bram stoker and when we liked the
The
Order of letters that that made we were pronouncing it as bram
What the fuck does that mean colby
Because I can't say that word because I because it has different meanings right it has different pronunciations
You can't say you can't say bram
So I say the that order of lettering the order of letters the way the word spells out to be
What we want we what we liked
When we saw it was bram
What we thought in our heads was bram you're gonna have a kid one day and you're gonna be like well
The order of letters is this way, but we pronounce it this way
It's gonna be like fucking like a skyler situation, but it's like sky ll
Aur
So we're just gonna have his middle name be constantly changing uh to like revision one revision two revision three
Three
You never come up with a fucking solid name for him you're gonna have to pay for so many social security cards
That's fine. Did you know that there are illegal names?
Uh like what?
Huh, isn't it the cool? So in different countries there are names that are illegal that you cannot name your child
Okay, how cool is that is there that's that's bonkers first of all and yeah exactly
But like what would they be?
Like like i assume in germany like shit that's adolf hitler or something like that
Right. Well, it's mostly stuff. That's like associated with like the devil and like religion because I was specifically
I was like this cat's gonna have an aggressive name. He's he has to something to do
We were close to doing like bills above but like bb for sure, you know, it's kind of cute
Yeah, right. My buddy had a buddy gang had a bunny and we named he named it b l is a bunny
I thought that was pretty good
Oh, that's good b l is a bug for short
Not that much
Oh shit, all right colby. Well, i'm glad the cat has a name now and it's not just you know
Cat at this point. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, i'm happy for you
And also I also wanted to ask because uh tim a co-worker of mine he listens to the show and he's been very concerned
That this cat doesn't have a name yet. So he will listen to this and hopefully
It'll put his mind at ease. He's not just like staying awake at night. Just
Curious and wondering and scared that this cat is nameless a named kitty
If that's with you, okay
All right colby. So for the past two weeks, we've been talking about the moth man. We talked about uh, yeah, we have corn stock
His curse and then we talked about
Uh the moth man sightings we didn't go through all of them because there's a shit ton of them
But we did go through a few like the fun ones at least
There was a there was a bunch that were like, ah, it was a big owl
Called big big hoot not big foot big out
Uh, they have some some people said they it was a crane. It was it's a whole thing but
Now we're going to get into the weirdly weird nitty gritty bullshit
Now initially I was going to do an episode after this
But I think this is a good closing to our moth man series because I wanted to do an episode on the men in black
But I feel like that dessert deserves like
Its whole thing because the men in black when I started looking into it are fucking wild
So today
We are going to go over
What I consider the weirdest part of the entire moth man
Uh universe, I like extended universe, I guess I don't know how else to describe it
And that is uh an encounter between a man named woodrow darren burger
and indrid cold
Great name which one
They're both pretty good names i've heard injured cold indrid cold you and you kind of look like
I can't the description of injured cold is kind of your that's the t-shirt. It's just my face on it
This is injured cold bro new merch dropping soon
What was the other one the burger name
Woodrow darren burger he goes by woody
Even but yeah, love it. It's good
Uh, so you've heard of injured cold. I assume kind of I mean at least from me saying it to you
only from you
That tracks I am the perfect specimen to tell uh
Cryptid stories too. Yeah, because I don't know most of them. This isn't really a cryptid though and also
It doesn't really have much to do with the moth man. It just
So happened that this was happening
Pretty much in the same time frame as when the moth man was happening, but we'll get into that
Are you ready to hear about woodrow darren burger and his encounter with injured cold? Super ready
Okay, let's get into it. All right, let's do it
Woodrow darren burger was a sewing machine salesman from mineral wells of west virginia
Which is about an hour east of point pleasant or as you so aptly uh renamed it point pleasure
Uh, oh, yeah, and I couldn't find anything literally anything about this town besides
Uh that it was east of point pleasant the reason being is I don't think I don't think this is technically
A town or a city or even like an unincorporated township according to the u.s. Census bureau
Uh, it's what is considered a cdp or quote census designated place which I don't 100% know
What it means?
The definition of it is a concentration of population
So it's possible that this that it just means that like it's just a bunch of people set up shop in an area
And the government just needs to keep tabs on them or something like that. Yeah
Yeah, it's like one of the yeah
What's the other name for that? We're
I mean they were popping it happened in philly
And they fucking like bombed the shit out of it. Um, it's just like he's free
Yeah, it was terrible. Um
Never mind
Uh where they just say yeah, this is our zone something zone. Oh you're talking about like in portland
Uh, yeah that one as well. Yeah kind of but it's not
Inside of another city. This is just like
A fucking area where it's like
A fucking area where grandfathered in sure, but yeah, but anyways, uh
On november 2nd 1966 just two weeks before
that first initial
Mothman encounter between the two couples that were drag racing around the tnt area at around 7 30 pm
Woodrow darrenberger was driving home from marietta, ohio after a long day of hawkins sewing machines
He was driving down route 77 around parkersburg, wester Virginia just before the route 47 juncture
When he says that he saw a car just
Blow past him
And then following closely behind that car was a 30 to 35 foot metallic cigar shaped craft
That darrenberger described as looking like the chimney to a kerosene lamp and being almost like a charcoal color
Now after passing woodrow's truck the craft swerved in front of him and slowed down. It wasn't like an abrupt slow
he wasn't like
Intergalactically like brake checking him but it he slowed down and it
He just it just caused woodrow's to also slow down and come to a stop behind the craft
The craft also kind of like kitty cornered like it was like, uh
That's the word i'm looking for it was across his lane of traffic and not like it wasn't like bumper to bumper
uh, he then
Thank you. It was
He then said that when the craft stopped it hovered about 10 inches off the ground and then a door on the ship opened
and a being exited
Woody described the being as just an ordinary dude
And this is he seemed to be about 35 years old roughly six feet tall with an olive complexion and dark brown hair
His arms were crossed in front of his body and he had a large
Fixed grin on his face
So, I mean yeah one day this will all be mine
No, just as soon as he exited the door closed and the ship shot straight up 75 feet in the air
Just kind of hung there
He approached woodrow's truck and politely asked woody to roll down his window and that he would like to talk to him
What he obliged but didn't say anything the being then asked why are you frightened? Don't be frightened
We wish you no harm. We are the same as you we eat we breathe we sleep we bleed even as you do
Please don't be afraid which is fucking unnerved first of all
Yeah
That's not comforting to hear from a fucking ain't like if
If you have to say all that then you know, there is a reason that they would be afraid in the first place, right?
Yeah, you know you're terrifying to look at. Yeah
uh
Because he just considering he had a permanent grin attached on his face and he was he walked out with his arms folded like his
Arms were across his chest. I'm just picturing like the everyday man. Just like tim allen from fucking tool time or some shit, you know
Definitely a flannel involved
No, it said that he wore a like a like a weird greenish blue metallic almost like a suit kind of
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, and he wore trousers and the material for the trousers were just trouser material
Way ahead of his time this guy's killing it fashion wise
Uh, and then after the being said all that to him that don't be afraid shit the being asked
What are you called? They call me woody
Yeah
Joe answered and then the being responded with
I am called cold
Now obviously as we just said no amount of reassurance from an alien being would ever put anyone truly at ease
So woodrow was completely freaked the fuck out, but he didn't feel threatened
Cold despite that being his name was courteous and genuinely pretty friendly
Uh cold then looked over at the city of parkersburg and asked what's that and woody was like that's a city
And after woodrow finished explaining to him the concept of what a city was cold replied
Oh where I come from those are called gatherings
Oh, wow
No, so this is what everybody has ever hoped for
Yeah, or or or envisioned that if you know another being came to earth that they would have to explain
You know these things that that we know as what they are. Yeah, pretty much. It's like every twitter meme, right?
Yeah, right. Yeah, they uh they chatted for a bit
He asked woodrow what he did for a living woodrow answered that he was a salesman
And cold informed him that he was a searcher but didn't go into any further detail for what that could possibly mean
I mean, but the wildest part about the wildest part about this aside from the fact that the dude came out of a spaceship
Is that injured cold?
Never actually spoke a word
His face was always a fix in that permanent grin this entire conversation was being done telepathically
Sure
Right, yeah, right. Mm-hmm. Now. Yeah. Yeah, he was either
You know speaking into his mind or or this man's mind was speaking into itself
Now this would rightly freak anyone out
But luckily cold didn't form woodrow that this would be the case at the beginning of the conversation
And that he did tell woodrow that he could either talk or just think his comments
Either worked for cold the conversation lasted about 10 minutes and after that cold told woodrow
That quote we will see you again and then just got on the spaceship and fucking left
Hey
Woodrow reported his encounter to the parkersburg police
And then he was then contacted by an air force representative that same night and questioned about his encounter for hours
By the next day the media had gotten wind of the story and that same evening
He went on live tv in parkersburg and was interviewed by the city police the state police the wood
The wood county airport and people from the datin ohio air force base, which is fucking
Wild like this dude is like fuck it. I got nothing to yeah, he balls to the wall like
And I respect him for it. But yeah, he was just like i'm gonna put all this shit out here ridicule be damned
I don't even think he has a family like he has like a wife and two kids
He's like, you know, fuck them. I think it like yeah didn't even think about the repercussions is more important
I mean kind of I guess
Dependent your face says no. I'm i'm uh, i'm i'm weighing
Uh the the importance of of mysterious shit
Well, luckily for mr
Derenberger the interview actually kind of helped his case after it aired several people came forward claiming
They saw lights in the sky along that same stretch of road where he had his encounter
An older man reported that he had saw a man matching injured coles description trying to flag him down on route 77
But the old guy was too afraid to stop
But the best reports were from those who saw derenberger pulled off to the side of the road and talking to this man
Because remember this took place on an active highway at 7 30 at night
So people were driving up and down this road. It's not like it was like 3 a.m
On like a backcountry road like people saw this shit go down
And his story was huge news in the area the parkersburg news covered this story
And the stories of anonymous witnesses for almost three weeks
He was interviewed by not only john keel for his book the mothman prophecies, but gray barker as well who was another
UFO researcher of the time
Now colby
This would be a cool story if this was it
Just a weird one-off alien sighting, but according to woody his encounters didn't end there
While driving home from the interview the day after the sighting woodrow claims that cold reached out again
But this time entirely telepathically like cold was nowhere around
He told woody that his name was indrid cold that he was from a planet called landulose
Uh cold described landulose as being pretty similar to earth water air plants animals that type of shit
Indrid went on to tell woody again that he was part of a group called the searchers
but this time
He clarified what that meant
And is that he was sent to earth to learn about the planet and its peoples
The conversation ended and woody would return home over the next month
His house would be like overrun with people outside his home trying to talk to him
Harass him or just try to catch a glimpse of the now infamous injured cold who woodrow claimed
Would make regular visits to him in his house
Where are we at right now with injured cold colby? Um, all right, so he was like
All right. Listen, I heard you talking shit
And I gotta do a return
Uh interview here, you know, I'll let you know. All right, if you're gonna be telling people about me, um
You get your fucking facts, right?
Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, so you gave him a little bit more context clues
um
Which makes sense. Yeah, I mean if I if I could but that's also on cold for not hear anybody's
Like did cold not think he was gonna go tell people like you if you're gonna
Right, like give me the the facts I need before I just start talking shit to people
Yeah, I mean you guys have developed a way to literally, uh, you know travel that far in space. Yeah
Um, but you didn't think uh, yeah, he might tell a few people
Well, but you thought of a whole speech they wouldn't be afraid of you
It's true
That means you had some understanding of what earthlings were like you knew that we were going to be fucking terrified of a smiling man
Not talking to me with his mouth
But you didn't have the forethought to think that i'm gonna tell someone about this
Some some see some searcher he is a fucking dickhead
They're they're so like cerebral but the face was just like something they made so like
We think that humans aren't afraid of smiling
And so they just put a which made it more terrifying
Yeah, well, he doesn't stop smiling. Well, that's the thing with like obviously you're not like super
uh
versed in like ufo encounters or something like that and like alien encounters or interdimensional being encounters it might be now that you've been on the
show a bunch of times but
one thing that i've learned from aliens and
Otherworldly beings is that everything they do to try to put humans at ease
Usually always has the exact opposite effects
Like yeah, it's it's never good
Yeah, they try to look human and it's just off a bit like fucking tom hanks and the polar express kind of thing
Like it's it's human but it's not
the men in black, uh water sugar scene
Yeah
Like it's human but it's off. It's not good
Yeah. All right. Yeah close. Let's get back. Let's get back to woody and
What he's been dealing with since this encounter, uh, the family would receive strange phone calls
Uh, mostly just odd beeps and electronic screechings or hums
Other times it was threats to stop speaking about his encounters the family even changed their number to an unlisted one
But the calls kept coming my theory is that this was the men in black because this is classic men in black behavior
Kind of just like trying to make you go insane. So that no matter what you say
Seems less credible kind of thing if that makes sense, right? Right. Yeah, it's like gaslighting in like a weird way
I you can't tell us everything we're fragile creatures, you know, we cannot know the whole truth
Or else are you quoting men in black in a movie right now and sue is that what it shit?
I might have been I don't know. I might have looked that up before we started now
this
Activity went out for months and his wife and kids were
Not cool with the situation
His wife did say that she encountered intercold a few times same thing with his kids
Uh, the kids were being harassed at school
His wife was getting the same kind of treatment being called a liar and just just not nice things
So she took the kids and moved to cleveland and shortly after divorced woodrow damn
now from here on
Woody and indor
Woody and injured cold became lifelong friends
They would communicate telepathically or injured would come come for a visit and even sometimes bring friends along with him from his home planet
Lanylos and they pretty much just
Came to like brag to woody about how much their planet rules and earth kind of sucks
All right, hold on here
They're like, yeah, it's great. Is that what is that what woody said pretty much? Yeah
Uh woody also eventually met indrid's wife. Can you guess what her name is?
um
Uh, so i'm just guessing based on like no context just what her name. Yeah, what is what is indrid cold's alien wife?
Oh, oh the alien wife. Yeah, right. Yeah
Something very like i am a human
Kind of yeah
Yeah, yeah
What's what's the most popular? Uh, like middle name uh lin or like ann or like something like very?
Kind of close her name was kimmy
Okay, all right
But not just not kim or kimberly. Nope. Kimmy the k i m m y
Real casual. Yes. Hey, i'm i'm i'm a i'm a human what's going on?
Hey
Kimmy they saw that on a on an intergalactic galactic broadcast of like saved by the bell or something. I don't know
Yes
Yep, uh now what do you
What do you learn that?
Lanulos was in a distant galaxy and that everyone lived there in perfect harmony kind of like a garden of eden type of situation
Yeah, nice try one night after hanging out indrid invited woody to check out the inside of his spaceship
And of course woody was like, oh boy what I ever missed her so they climbed aboard candy on the side
We figured out world peace
You want to come see these puppies I got in my spaceship. Oh boy, mr. Yeah
uh
So they climbed aboard and woody was just blown away
Mostly by like the fact that the doors could open and close on their own and then there's like dials and controls and stuff
But just like pretty simple automation. He's like in awe of like technology
Uh, he also is from a place
Uh that isn't a town
In west virginia, so he probably hasn't seen
a lot of it
We ain't got we we ain't been made of town yet
Maybe one day we might be no once upon the ship
Indrid asked woody if he'd like to go on a trip somewhere anywhere he wanted
So woody for some reason chose the amazon rainforest. I don't know why but anyway, so that's what they did
Don't just casually put that in there, right?
I know you just want to continue through and have no breaks here, but holy smokes
Yeah, of course they did
Let's look behind door number one to the spaceship you want to
uh
vacation to the amazon
But yeah, so that's what they that's what they did. They uh, they fucking flew flew over the rainforest
They got to see like the nice canopy
He saw tribes walking around because they're looking down like through a window or some shit
And then uh after scoping out the forest indrid was like this is cool and all
But you want to go see my home planet and woody was like fuck. Yeah, I do
So the one guy's got like like like like an amazon like a version of the amazon I can see
Um
After breaching the earth's atmosphere they got within about 600 miles of the moon
An injured ship docked with what injured called the flagship like a mothership
Woody claimed that this ship was 300 feet long and almost nine stories tall just like a just a big fucking ship
Now after docking with the flagship they were off
After traveling for some time the windows of the ship opened as they passed the planet saturn
And injured told woody that it may look like a dead planet, but underneath the atmosphere there were civilizations and even agriculture
Which I mean sure bud, whatever you say. It's only it's only 900 degrees on the surface of the fucking planet
But you know it is what it is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
And and we just opened the windows, uh in in just space not okay?
Okay, I got you they're not opening like it's like a plane how they have like the shades that come up and down
I think at least at least I at least I think it's like that
I have no idea
Right, right, right
But but but mainly he's like, yeah, no, there's there's shit going on over there
But anyways, they flew past saturn
Injured cold lied straight to woody's face and then the windows closed again and then in about 30 minutes
They were over injured's home world of lanulos apparently
His people could bend space and time so traveling is like it's nothing to them. They can just in and out whatever
I would love to have the
The be able to bend space and time. Yeah, they'd be nice. All right, you gotta get home
Just there
Oh done, you know, we're we're getting there. I fucking hope so. It's about time
We got some teleportation and you know
So once they got to uh, indras home world lanulos they boarded injured ship and undocked from the flagship and started flying over the planet
Woody stated that he saw cities fields and forests rivers just normal planet shit
And then from his vantage point
He said he could see people walking the streets and vehicles on the road and highways that had no wheels
But hovered over the pavement the ship soon landed and they went to indrid's house
His home was made of brick and glass and everything ran on nuclear power
Indrid's home was pretty much just like a modern smart home. It had automated everything kitchen laundry, you name it
And then after checking out indrid's digs
And it was like hey, why don't we take a day trip into the city?
So they went to a nearby city that was named number 27 gathering
right now just like any city there are hundreds of people just
Going about their day working shopping moving from place to place
But instead of walking they were using moving sidewalks like the kind you see in an airport. Yeah
Which sounds frustrating because I already hate when people walk on sidewalks like slow and or like four people across like
Imagine a moving sidewalk and someone's just standing on it like fuck you dude. Get out of my way. It's it's it's
it's so like futuristic that it seems like
it's like this is what I think the future is gonna be you know, like like I
I is is is he actually you know, like um
Seeing something that that could be in the future
You know what I mean? Like we come back around and like things that we thought were gonna be futuristic are actually futuristic
But some things are like I feel like we're gonna have this in the future. So i'll place this into my story
Yeah, kind of we'll get to
We'll get there now besides this like the moving sidewalk because this place is litter moving sidewalks. It's just all it is
There's moving sidewalks everywhere
It was pretty much just like any other major city on earth the streets were lined with stores businesses things like that
what he said that he saw like
but pretty much equated to
uh
Like our department stores kind of thing the only real noticeable difference at least to woody
Was that everyone was naked and everyone was hot?
just
What just a planet of like the most fuckable aliens you've ever seen attract it. Yeah. Okay, so hot is an attractiveness
All right, so you use the term or you're using the term hot. He did not say that they were
They were hot or that they were the most fuckable aliens he's ever seen that that's me. Right, right, right
My editorial spit on it
Perfect. Okay. All right now according to indrid the laniel oceans, which is what they're called
Had the belief
That they wanted to be seen as god intended and only wore clothing when it was exceptionally cold or while they were dancing
now, I don't know
if
Indrid means like I don't know
Their religion is it christian god like do they do we have the same god?
Like did they have a jesus don't make no junk, you know
I fucking hate you so much. That's that's the that's the view. Yeah, god don't make no junk. I mean fair
Uh, well, yeah woody not wanting to offend
Decided to disrobe himself
And nice he felt a little self-conscious because he was a little overweight
And then indrid informed him that the people of lanielos are physically human
But because of their healthy lifestyle, they eat mostly like fruits vegetables and seafood
They live to be anywhere between the ages of 125 and 175 years old
Their society is their society is focused on happiness and understanding
The children are in school until the age of 28 and are free to choose any job
They want after finishing and can change careers at any time
Which is wild
Wild commie bastards. Oh you want you want to get into communism their economy also works a little bit different
People weren't paid by their skills or experience
But instead were paid according to the size of their families and the basic needs to provide for them
Which I mean isn't a bad like that's pretty good, right?
That's crazy
So you're telling me that bernie sanders traveled through time
So they
Just to spread the word
Um, damn, okay. I mean it sounds like this guy just had some good ideas and he didn't know how to tell people about it
he's like I feel like
We might get into that a little bit at the end here, uh now after sure sure i'm gonna get it myself after his visit
To lanulos and you know, i'm sure he had to he had to have gotten freaky with one of those aliens
I assume I don't know. But anyways when he returned home all sexy, they're all just
fuckable
Huh? Yeah now after his visit. Oh my god, and when he returned home
He had another encounter with two different humanoid creatures that were decidedly not as friendly as indrid
Apparently indrid's home planet of lanulos wasn't the only inhabited world in the universe
One night woody and his friend jim were out looking for ufos in a spot where they can sometimes be spotted well
That night they got lucky enough because a little bit after they arrived a ufo landed in a field nearby
And they saw two humanoid figures step out of the craft woody and jim started walking towards them figuring they must be
Lanulotians, but then woody noticed indrid and two other lanulotians named carl ardo and demo hassan
demo hassan
Walking in from the other direction
Indrid telepathically informed woody that these beings were not from lanulos and that him and his crew were gonna flank these other beings
But woody needed to cause a distraction. So woody did just what I don't know those motherfuckers. I do not know them
Hold on
Woody, woody, woody, woody, woody slow down now. Listen, I need you to distract them
I know he's grinning and all but let me be real with you. The grin was just the thing we did
that we thought you guys would like and
He's not he's not us he's not us man
so so woody did just that by starting an argument with jim like a fake argument to try and draw the uh,
the other two humanoid looking people away from the
The attention of uh indrid and what was the other guy's name carl and demo?
Demo
Demos an explosive guy, you know, he deals with all the
you know, and that's where they got the idea for uh,
For oceans 11 to have a demo guy and I was just gonna say injured crewed up like it was oceans 11
Yes
This is our demo specialist his name is demo, uh, whatever
We'll we'll put something on the end of it to not make it sound too much like he's the demo guy
But anyways, uh woody and jim's distraction worked
and uh
Indrid and his crew got where they needed and confronted the other crew the humanoids or whatever
After a few tense minutes, which woody thought was going to get physical the two non-landu lotions
Uh got on their ship and just left once they departed
Indrid told woody that they were a race of beings called humanoids which is convenient and were from another galaxy
They looked like humans but with a few differences like a set of hair
They had little pin feathers like a bird of some kind
Uh around their eyes were wrinkly and red
Kind of fucked up. Uh, he also said that they weren't necessarily dangerous
But they did like to steal shit
including humans
And that they were responsible for the abduction of betty and barney hill is fucking kleptos that stole betty and barney
We fucking found them now just a few just a few months after this. I think it was like
I don't remember the amount of time but uh after this apparently there was a huge standoff between the humanoids and the landu lotions just above earth
uh, it included 11 ships total
and
Uh, they were all involved in the standoff, but luckily it ended peacefully and the humanoids were escorted to the edge of the galaxy
And banished from ever returning
so damn uh
Now there's a lot of yada yada yada going on because there's
Woody went through a lot of shit with indrid
eventually around this time, uh woody did ask indrid like like
What do you want from me and indrid told him I want you to talk to?
People share your story in your message tell your people how we live
Uh convince your people in government to tell the truth about ufos and change their ways the usual alien stuff
I guess right you know what I mean? Yeah, uh, but what he did just that. He wrote the book visitors from millennials
Which is a lot of this is from and also a lot of this is from the televised interview that he did
And he would talk to the media whenever he could he gave lectures interviews
Everything and anything to kind of tell the story of indrid cold
Uh, which again there's way more of we rarely like scratch the surface
But he he did try his hardest to keep that promise to indrid all the way up until his death in 1990
Now his daughter tanya who also tragically passed away at the age of 60
Uh picked up where her where her father left off writing the book beyond lanulos our 50 years with indrid cold
I don't know much about uh tanya or her relationship with injured cold. I don't know uh
She said she
She luke put it best when he said that she talks about injured like an old family friend
But I don't know how much interaction she actually had or how much she's trying to just capitalize off of her father's story
But also his story is kind of um
uh
Cartoonish in a way
A lot of people in the ufufo community
Don't buy into woody's story
I do think something happened to him on that first night
And the weird phone calls and the men in black stuff and like getting harassed and his wife leaving him that that I do believe is true
As far as anything past that
Is up for debate and it's not a debate that I want to be a part of
Now it is it is important to note that woodrow did go see a psychiatrist and was deemed a-okay
Which I don't know
What that was supposed to prove like it was supposed to prove that he wasn't crazy, which I mean cool
But that also proves that you could just
Make all of this shit up. You know what I mean? Yeah
Right, right
And uh, even john keel who interviewed him for the the mothman prophecies. Uh, he also wrote the forward
for woody's book visitors, uh from lanulos
He he didn't believe him at all. But but he did state that
Whether you believe him or not, it doesn't matter. He believed that what he was telling was the truth and deserves to be heard
And that that is the story
or part of the story
of woodrow
darren burger
And injured cold
How are you feeling colby? I want I want you to give me thoughts feedback theories
How are we feeling? Yeah. Yeah. No, I think you're
Kind of spot on with the interpretation of it, but maybe
Something did happen something real happened, but
He was in shock after that. Maybe he had some ptsd. Maybe it
it uh
Got worse and it it made him kind of dive further into
What in the world this could be? I mean, it's clearly like something that doesn't just happen every day, you know
It and maybe his brain reacted in a different way
And he was like, you know, i'm gonna be a bomb ass sci-fi writer. I'm like, okay
I'm gonna be the next asimov, you know, like let's go
Well, so you're kind of taking this so I was talking to luke uh fairy about this before and because my my
I haven't talked to him in a while and I just had a random message on instagram. Just being like
Uh, so what do you darrenberger's kind of full of shit, huh?
I love sending you those types of texts that are completely left field out of pocket
But I know that you'll you'll you'll get it. Yeah, and he's like and so he's kind of with you
He's like he's like I believe that he believes that this happened to him
I believe that he did experience something and then he kind of went on to say like
Well, because I was like I was like I do believe that the initial sighting happened. I do believe that the very first thing
With him being on the highway
He saw
Something a creature being whatever you know what I mean?
Well, because we have we have multiple stories now that that coincide right? Yeah, so that helps that case. I believe that happens
Everything past that point like everything past like the the
Weirdest thing that happened
Everything past like the the weird phone call like you know like the from that from that point to like the month after it
Where like his shit got really weird and then kind of like died down
I believe all that happened
I do not believe that he became best friends with an alien and then was on his ship and went to go see the
the amazon rainforest then
Was like invited to go
To go to his home planet with a bunch of naked aliens with a shit ton of moving
sidewalks
I and they all just happen to have the same guy also
Uh the len yuloshin celebrate christmas also on december 25th, so they have the gregarian calendar
Okay, all right. Yeah, it's kind of fucking weird. I
You guys had a jesus too
Like so I kind of get that like
But he said like that could all just be hallucinations injured cold did have the
ability to telepathically communicate why wouldn't he couldn't he produce
hallucinations in your brain kind of thing
But also that's kind of like what you said like maybe he saw what he saw that initial night
And then it was just fucked up
and then just like
Had the whole but he said he went he said he went to a fucking psychiatrist. They said that he
you know
Was given down on the sheet a okay?
Not even they just drew like the hands the hand gesture like the a
It's like a big a big red stamp, but it's just the the circular fingers like hey, okay
Uh, yeah, yeah, but yeah, so i'm gonna go. I don't know and then his his daughter like
I didn't read too much about his daughter, but what I did read is that her story is kind of consistently changing. It's not
the same every time
and then
Yeah, I feel like I feel like what happened was
And this is speculation on my part and don't hate me for saying this
But I think that he he realized the media attention he got literally the day after his first encounter
It was like I can capitalize off this
because possible
Most people who experience something like this they don't want anything from it and if anything it hurts their
Lives or the reputations he just went yeah, fuck it full force
And even after like to get john keel to write the ford for your book and even to get john keel to write the ford for your book
at the same time
Denouncing everything you're about to say in that book and still have people is fucking wild to me
But he did not care right like and then I think his daughter just trying to capitalize off of it because like
As far as I know she wasn't really around
like she like like the wife took the
daughter and son
And oh like not that like unless unless injured was visiting
And the wife's like leave us alone and it's just like yeah, but I want to like hang out with your kids
They want to come to land you look everyone's naked
They want to hear a couple stories. I got a story. I got some imaginary character
I mean did I say imaginary mad real characters real people real humanoids your dad's a real freak
He got naked with us, too
See, I could tell you think about your father a vision of a planet where everybody's hot
They're all fuckable
This is just best-case scenario here pretty much. Yeah, so
I don't know. What are you thinking? How you like?
I'm on board. I'm on board with with that interpretation of it. I mean my interpretation or would woodie's interpretation of it
No, no your interpretation. I I mean in general. I don't want to be biased on things
I can be coerced, but I I don't I don't think that it's so extreme to one side or so extreme to the other side
You know
Probably some shit happened to this dude and he was like, you know what?
I'm gonna
I'm gonna keep going with this. I'm gonna keep rolling with it because why not?
Yeah, I don't know
I mean if you have a negative experience with it then then yeah
You probably want to get out of there and then you probably later on in your life
You're like I just need people to know the truth and then if you have a great experience with it
And people are buying it up. Yeah, right a couple novels, you know, yeah, but I mean it
It definitely worked out in his favor, which is weird considering most of the times we talk about
Alien shit. It just doesn't like he went on like the whole ufo circuit like talking like lectures and stuff like that to like
like all those different ufo shit like he definitely profited off of it and
But what's at least with him?
Which is kind of weird is that he
As far as I know his story never changed
It was always like he knew
But maybe that's just because he wrote it down. So like I with me if I write something down
I cannot always kind of remember it
Like I don't know. I don't know sure
Sure, I'm not gonna malign the man because he's dead. I'm not gonna like like fuck this guy. This all could have happened. Sure
Sure, I don't know. But yeah, that is it is what it is
it is what it is, but uh, I uh, I I may be backtracking here, but
Intercold really like like he had a first and a last name. It is just I don't know
I feel like
His name would be like
Well, maybe indrid is his name is injured even a human name
Injured like what it like injured doesn't I don't know any I don't know anyone else named indrid
That I could think of so maybe like yeah, it's one of those names were like he was he's he's a searcher
He's been researching human life
Maybe like yeah, he came up with a name that sounded human
but
Isn't like on his home planet. It is he might he might not be in perfect name
Yeah, like it is the perfect name. So it almost sounds human, but it's a little alternative little wonky
Because like maybe on his maybe on his home planet of lanulos. Maybe his name is you know, I mean like no one knows
If I said my name your chest would explode into a thousand pieces and your head would collapse in on itself like
You know, so you had to go by inch
Yeah
That's yeah. Yeah true. He was assimilating like the grin
It was the joker from from the past
Oh shit, but yeah, well, I get me we'll never know
I've
you know
But uh, damn it. So yeah colby. That's the story of uh
woody darrenberger and uh indrew cold
Pretty good story. This episode is an hour long by the way, you know that we went fucking hard on this one
But it's all it's it's some gold in there. I mean
I I would be on the edge of my seat if I was a listener. I am a listener
Yes, thank you. I appreciate it. Also also a participant
All right colby, uh
Before we sign off. Is there anything you want to uh say to the people? Uh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah
um, uh, I play guitar in a band called lanterns and you can find us on uh
Spotify
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march, uh march 3rd and you gotta give cities and stuff like that because people don't know
Right. All right. So we're out of wells main and uh, we're gonna be playing a bit of benefit benefit on uh,
April 3rd at a brewery called sacred profane
uh march 4th, we're playing out in
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Uh, i'm not sure where manchester is but we got some shows coming up. We got a new drummer
Uh, I got some new material
Bang. Hell. Yeah, and uh lanterns is l n t r n s 207 on instagram and spotify you haven't
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