Find other great podcasts like this one at podmoth.network.
Works sucks.
Am I right, Jay?
Yeah, Kay.
It does.
But luckily, the Fuck My Work Life podcast is here to help you through.
In this comedy podcast, we share memorable workplace stories through guests and listener
submissions in the hopes of brightening your day.
Or at least leave you thinking, maybe you don't have it so bad after all.
Listen to Fuck My Work Life on your favorite podcast platform and follow us on all the
socials at FMWL Pod.
Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of Cryptic Cocktail Party, a show where we
have a few drinks, share a few laughs, take a dive into the unknown.
I'm your host Dave and today I'm joined by, I don't know, tattoo artist and I guess purveyor
of the paranormal, I guess.
Joshua Belange, I don't know, how would you?
Does that work?
Yeah, I mean, that's as good an intro as any.
I've been loved all this stuff since I was a teenager, you know, I'm sure that's when
you got into this stuff too.
So I just loved all this stuff, the paranormal, and the but like for some fucking weird reason,
the Hellmouth Instagram took off with being a UFO page and I was like, I don't know why,
but I guess I'll just lean into it.
So screw it.
Well, I mean, I guess that's kind of good because you don't know what we're talking
about today, right?
Nope.
All right.
Well, this kind of falls into that category.
So all right.
All right.
You know, I don't know.
I guess my first question for you is you ever been to Wisconsin?
I've driven through, I've done multiple cross country trips.
Nothing, nothing, nothing solid.
Nothing solid.
All right.
Well, today we'll be heading to the heartland of America, which is Polk County, Wisconsin,
home to 10 villages, 24 towns and 25 unincorporated townships.
Polk County is basically your average rural farming community.
We've got a ton of those up where we're from in New Hampshire and Maine, especially the
further up you go into Maine where half the towns are just like numbers and letters and
like a series of dashes.
It's kind of that vibe.
Suffice it to say, not a whole lot of excitement in Polk County, Wisconsin.
I went to the official Polk County website just to kind of get an idea of the area that
we're going to be discussing today, just because I think it's good to get like your finger
on the pulse of, you know, get a little context of what's going on.
Yeah, get an idea.
So I went to the news section to see what's popping off in Polk County and got to say
high drama places.
All right.
For instance, on August 21st, the first human case of West Nile virus was confirmed in Wisconsin
on October 3rd of this year.
Yeah.
Oh, all right.
There's not a lot of lagging behind a little bit on October 3rd.
The headline read, quote, Circuit Court Grant stay allows equestrian season to continue
on Stower Seven Lakes Trail.
And on November 2nd, the Polk County Recycling Center held a very successful electronic collection
event.
So just a hotbed of activity over.
How are they judging the success of an electronic?
Is it just like they go by weight or like participation?
I would assume it has to be weight.
Yeah, there's no way.
Because if you've ever been to like a recycling center, it's all weight.
I don't know if you've ever delved into a scrapping metal.
Well, I've only ever been to a scrapyard once when I was looking for seat belts for a van
to go across country with, you know, to go across country with.
And they were like, we got some seat belts for your van.
Like over there, they point to this giant stack of cars.
And I'm like, this stack of cars is fucking 80 feet tall.
And I'm supposed to climb in to the bottom of this one and rip out the seat belts.
So like, all right, I guess I'll do it.
But that's that's my only experience with one of those places.
You pretty much summed it up.
That's exactly the exact experience you're looking for when you go for a scrapyard.
And a lot of fucking bees.
Oh, yeah.
Bees, flies.
They're not the cleanest in any way, shape or form.
But you know, surprisingly absent from the Polk County website, however, is the story
that we're going to be covering today.
And it's a story that is weird because I assumed that this area, something like this happening,
they would have tried to have like milked it for everything it's worth, like festivals
and carnival like they did with like the Hopkinsville Goblin and like Flatwoods.
Like you would think this would all the current stuff, you know, like tourism money.
And I can see, you know, yeah, you would think considering the most exciting thing is that
now you can continue walking your horse on a trail like something.
But that story is of William Bosac and his encounter with what is known as the Bosac
Kalman, aka the Bosac Humanoid, aka the Bosac bovine.
Are you familiar with this at all?
This is this is a new one to me.
The Bosac bovine is the best.
So I love that.
Yeah.
The alliteration just works.
So the story goes that on December 2nd in 1974 at around 10 p.m., William Bosac, a 68
year old dairy farmer, was driving from a co-op meeting in Frederick, Wisconsin, back
to his 450 acre farm in Polk County, having owned and operated his farm for close to four
decades.
Driving this drive to and from the co-op is something he's done a billion times.
So he knows this route like the back of his hand on this particular.
A lot of fucking acreage.
It's a big farm, right?
I guess it's a case.
Christ.
Yeah.
If it's a dairy farm, I guess you kind of need it.
I don't know shit about farming.
So I only know from what I've seen on Yellowstone.
That's much it.
They need the cows need to graze and the grass needs to not have some kind of disease in
it.
That's the only thing that you need to do.
Yeah.
I'm pretty sure that sums up farming.
It's as easy as that.
Cows got to graze.
Grass can't be gross.
Yep.
Perfect.
We're all set for when shit pops off.
On this particular night, though, the roads were shrouded in a low hanging, like dense
fog causing him to drive a little bit slower, be a little more cautious with his driving.
Now at this point, it's about 1030 at night and William is less than a mile from his house,
which is when they say most accidents happen, right?
Or something like that.
You know that?
Now, he's about a mile from his house when his headlights catch the glimmer of something.
That something is a 10 foot tall and three foot wide cone shaped object hovering in the
distance on the left side of the road.
I hesitate to call it a ship just because the description of it, it seems more like
an escape pod or a capsule or something.
It's not really a ship.
Yeah.
Three feet wide isn't big enough.
A large traffic cone.
Yeah.
And I also hesitate to say it's hovering.
The bottom part he described as being covered with the fog, so he couldn't say for sure
if it was hovering, but I'm just going to go ahead and say it is just for the story's
sake.
All right.
Yeah.
So at this point, Bozak did what I'm assuming either of us would do in this situation, and
that is he slowed down and then eventually stopped his car just close enough to get a
better look at this thing because fuck it, if we die, we die, right?
I'm not going to give him the opportunity to see it.
It's better to die, get ripped apart by some weird alien bullshit than dying because I
eat too much salt in hospital bed when I'm fucking 85 years old.
Exactly.
I would rather, I would rather, you know.
That's the outlook on life I'm looking for.
So after giving the pod a good once over, he noticed that there was a window made of
domed glass.
So I guess like a porthole more than, I honestly don't know the difference between a porthole
or a window, but I'm just going to say a porthole because it sounds more shippy.
Now through this porthole, he was able to see a very brightly lit compartment and in
that compartment he saw, well, hold on.
I'm just going to, I'm just going to read the quote of what he saw because I think he'll
describe it better than I ever could.
He said quote, I can remember it just as if it were yesterday.
It was a little taller than a tall man.
I can see a figure.
Cause I'm the tall one in my family and I'm five, ten.
Yeah, just a little taller than a tall man.
A little taller.
Perfect.
I'm all right.
I could see a figure with his arms raised above its head.
He was looking out the window and it was a different kind of character than you'd see
on this earth.
He then went on to describe this slightly taller than a tall man character like this.
He said quote, it looked a good deal like a man, but not from this earth, but it had
a face, had a different looking face than you'd see.
It had kind of a cow looking face, dark tan fur, except for its face and chin and a square
face with hair sticking straight out from the sides.
The ears stuck out from the head about three inches and the eyes were large and protruding.
The ears were calf like end quote.
So basically to sum up Williams description, it was a tall alien cow thing, slightly taller
than a man.
So there's just this cow man flying through space in this weird ship.
Yeah, pretty much.
Now this whole staring at people, all right.
Going off of the artist depictions, because obviously people have heard of this and then
the community has to draw it.
What I've gathered, have you ever seen Mac and me?
Of course.
It kind of looks like one of the parents from Mac.
So like the really tall ones, but like covered in brown fur.
That's a deep cut.
I got, cause I remember Mac with the little straw Mac.
Yeah.
And that's pretty much it.
Picture that.
I'm not sure kid yet.
Picture that like seven feet tall, but covered in brown fur.
Okay.
All right.
I'm just telling you what I saw.
Yeah.
All right.
The weirdest thing that Bozak noticed about this was that it looked scared.
It had its arms raised, eyes wide, like it wasn't expecting anyone to come through or
that it was like unaware of its surroundings and didn't want to start any sort of fuss,
which makes me think even more that it was some sort of like a skate pod or like an emergency
vehicle of some sort.
Cause if it's tall enough for him to just stand up and raise his arms and that's it.
Like what's he really, you can't really fly that.
I don't know.
Space travels weird.
They probably go.
Yeah.
Unless, unless it's kind of like a Superman thing where they getting sent off to that
other dimension.
Oh my God.
My brain, I've had a couple of drinks today already.
What's up?
In the spirit of cryptic cocktail hour, uh, the phantom zone, you know, so I just picture
this like cow man flying sort of like in like, you know, just like flipping back and forth,
you know, like maybe he's getting injected from this plate of existence.
Well, we'll get into theories of what it could be, but one of them was, and I didn't even
subscribe to it, was that kind of like in Superman, you know how, I guess in man of
steel, uh, Zod and his people were all in those, like, uh, those pods that they were
frozen in and they came out.
They're trying to say that he, that this dude's like an intergalactic criminal in that's what
it was.
It was like a, like a criminal pod, which yeah, that's still, that's, they were getting
sent to the phantom zone.
Yeah, exactly.
That's, but, uh, but either way, after about 10 seconds of eye contact with this thing,
which the 10 seconds felt like minutes to William.
That's a long time for eye contact.
His initial shock receded that early is, wow.
Yeah, that is a long time for eye contact, but his initial shock receded and in its place,
just fucking sheer terror.
He started to just straight up panic.
And at this point, Bozak said, fuck it, put the pedal to the metal and just high tailed
it.
So he's fucking speeding through the woods almost to the comforts of home.
Bozak thought he had put a good amount of distance between him and this bovine humanoid.
When he suddenly noticed that the lights in his car started to darken, the sound of his
engine started to slowly fade and his headlights started to dim.
Then Bozak hears what he described as a whooshing sound followed by a scraping against the roof
of his car.
Kind of like if you go under like a low hanging branch and you hear like that kind of thing.
That's what he said.
You heard.
Okay.
I don't know.
Knowing what juice he had left, he floored it just fucking barreling through the fog
all the way back to the safety of his homestead.
And once there, he was able to calm himself down, kind of just taking what had happened.
And after taking some time to just sit and collect his thoughts, he decided as a lot
of UFO and alien witnesses do, fearing what it might do to their relationships and social
and familial like reputations.
He decided, well, I probably shouldn't tell anyone about this because I'm going to sound
like a fucking lunatic.
What, when was the year of this one?
Uh, 68, I believe.
I feel like sensibilities has changed so much because now with one of us.
Yeah.
I mean, so still like I still still a window of like, everybody's like, everybody's gonna
think I'm crazy if I tell you, but if something like that happened now, I'd be running ringing
that bell all of social media.
Look at this shit I fucking saw.
Oh dude.
You know, and I'd be, I'd be milking it for all it's worth.
Yeah.
I get that, you know, 10 minutes of Tik Tok fame.
Yeah.
But then you're gonna have to like, yeah.
But then you're going to have one of those, like the, uh, the Vegas UFO backyard alien
thing.
Everyone's is going to be like, Oh my, yeah.
You know, no, I mean, I guess if you don't get video of it, you just have your story.
It's better than having shitty looking video of it.
You know what I mean?
Like every, every video that I post on my page is people like, well, it's 2023 and we
get this potato camera shit.
I'm like, dude, this is a shot in the seventies.
What am I supposed to tell you?
But like every moment, even that Vegas one that like some of those like, well, you know,
where they would zoom in and show like this is the face, the alien, like in between the
holes of the, like the fence and shit like that.
You'd be like, I don't know about this, this is pretty suspect, but, um, and back to the
bovine experience, you know.
Well, like I said, he decided probably best to not say anything to anyone.
I mean, I, yeah, mistake in the seventies though, in a rural, like Wisconsin Midwestern
town, you're a dairy farmer.
You know, I feel like it's not the most welcoming.
People aren't going to buy your milk.
They're calling up.
She's going to get made fun of at the co-op every weekend now.
Now the following day, William decided to shirk all of his duties on the farm and immediately
returned to where the ship craft pod thing was.
And obviously it wasn't there.
No evidence except for a patch of grass off to the side of the road where the object had
been hovering.
Now Bozak was able to keep silent about his encounter for about three weeks until he decided
enough was enough.
He was going to confide in his wife.
Now one thing I've learned from doing this show, that secret, that's a long time to keep
it a secret, but what I've learned, what I've learned from doing the show is that most people
who witness something like this and hold it in most of the time, they re the reason they
end up deciding it's time to tell someone is pretty much because they have like PTSD
or they're traumatized by what happened.
I just need to tell someone because like the weight is just crushing their soul.
Uh, but for William, it was a little bit different.
He didn't confide in his wife because he was plagued with trauma or fear, but for him it
was guilt.
He regretted not staying and trying to communicate with the scared being and like trying to show
that he was a friendly dude.
He told, uh, he told you, what?
It's like, you know, when I, I had an opportunity, like he's in the dairy and cow business and
he's like, look at this guy.
It's like, you know what, like maybe it is an opportunity here.
And I just blew it.
I should have, I should have reached out.
We could have done something good.
Had, you know, made millions.
If any, if anyone was going to be an ambassador for the human race, I want it to be a 68 year
old dairy farmer from Wisconsin.
Oh Jesus.
I don't, uh, he has the plane.
He knows the plight of the every man.
He knows what's the common man.
I mean, if anyone, it should be him.
Right.
And the fact that he felt bad about it now, I kind of think he should have been, he's
probably better than all of us.
Yeah.
He's got, he's got some ethics in there.
You know?
All right.
Well, yeah.
What he said was quote, I wish that someone had been in the car with me at the time.
I should have stopped and I tried to show it.
I was friendly.
I wish I could meet up with it again.
End quote.
Now on course it's, it's unclear if his wife had just like loose lips or if Bozak
decided to tell more people than just his wife about what he encountered.
But news quickly spread around about this dairy farmer and his encounter.
And a short time later, a story was written up about the incident in the St. Paul pioneer
press.
And this story caught the attention of Everett E. Leitner and Dewey Burscheid, I don't know
how to pronounce this last name, uh, who were investigators for the aerial phenomena research
organization or APRO for short.
Are you familiar with APRO?
I've never heard of them before, but apparently they were started by a really famous, like
I haven't heard of that one though.
Yeah.
Now Bozak was more than willing to talk to Dewey and Everett granting several like extensive
interviews with the pair, as well as setting up interviews with his family, friends and
neighbors who all pretty much said that the story was bananas, but that Will was an honest
man with a good reputation.
So they don't really have any reason not to trust that he at least saw something that
night.
So Bozak got it.
He knew the story was wild and that skepticism was from his neighbors, family and friends
and reporters were going to come with the territory.
He went on to say in an interview, quote, you know how the neighbors are.
They questioned it.
The editor in town didn't believe it.
I'm sure a lot of people are going to be skeptical after hearing what happened to me, but if
people don't believe me, I'll take a lie detector test to prove this isn't just something I
made up.
End quote.
So he stuck to his story, which I'm, you know.
Yeah.
He hasn't, I mean, is he, do you know if he's still alive?
Well, we'll get to that.
Oh, okay.
All right.
I didn't know if it's one of those like deathbed confessionals where he's like, no, me and
Marty, we, we got together and we made this thing because milk sales were down and we
really needed to get the attention.
I just keep saying milk, but I'm sure it's like beef and like, I can think it was, you
know, slaughterhouse shit.
Well, if it's a dairy farm, I assume there's milk and cheeses, curds, yeah.
Kicking around there.
Cheese was down.
Needed to be the figure a way to kick up business.
First of all, I've highly doubt that cheese was down in Wisconsin in 1974.
If anything, it was booming back then, but I don't know much about the cheese market.
Right.
We're good.
We're going to have, you know, we're going to have to take a pause.
We're going to have to look at the cheese market.
So the stats of the 70s, I think, I think I'm going to have to properly research this.
I'm going to have to go take a trip to Wisconsin, really get my boots on the ground and really
figure out what's going on here.
I think any ethical podcaster would do that.
Yeah, but I'm not going to do that.
All right.
Well, that's the difference between me and you.
Yeah.
That's what you would do it.
I am the other hand.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm looking up.
I'm on price side right now, seeing what what I can get.
Now according to Cryptopia.us, there have been a ton of speculation as to what this
cowboy actually was with theories ranging cowboy from just a straight up Bigfoot that
can fly a spaceship, which I'm just going to say no.
Bozak was a dairy farmer.
So if he says it looks like a cow, I'm going to believe him considering Bigfoot is.
I mean, he's an expert.
Yeah, clearly a primate.
Other theories say it was an emissary of its race.
Others say it's a fugitive, like I said to you, my favorite, though, and this is the
one I'm going to go with, is that it could be a highly evolved, time traveling descendant
of the cows that Bozak had on his farm.
What pivotal moment in cow history did he contribute to that they needed to appear to
him in that time?
Or maybe if it's a time travel and we just think of, and we just think of like our little
like, you know, we got a little wedge of time that we got going here and we don't factor
into it.
So if cows are that evolved and they go back and back or they go forward in time so far
where like they ended up having technology to be able to time travel.
Why would this even be anywhere near the time to like show up and be like, oh, well, you
know, we got like, is it like a Skynest situation where this is the farm in which like a cow
finally gained sentience?
He's like the John Connor of the cow universe.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, maybe that's where you're going with when you know we're talking about deathbed
confessionals.
Maybe something's going to happen.
But maybe hear me out, maybe the reason why all those cattle mutilations happened in like
the 90s and early 2000s, maybe cows do eventually become the superior race.
So the aliens are coming down trying to figure out, well, what are their weaknesses?
Maybe there's a cow gray space battle in the future, like a huge civil war.
And that's why they've been that's why they're attacking the lineage of cows in the Midwest.
Yeah.
And that's why I think we're living in very, in very important times for the cow.
The cow revolution that's about to happen.
Yeah.
Instead of the Planet of the Apes, the Planet of the Bovines.
I mean, not going to lie, I'd watch that anime.
But in the end, I guess we'll never really know what the bovine creature was.
As far as I know, this is the only encounter with the being of this description.
And sadly, the cow man never returned, especially not to Bozak's farm to pay him another visit.
And even sadder is that on December 22nd, 1996, William Bozak was found dead in his
home at the age of 90, 22 years to the day of his encounter with the Bozak cow man.
And he never got a chance to reconnect with them and show them that, you know, he was
just a just a nice dude trying to hang out.
But yeah, that both prints at the scene.
As far as I know, he wasn't murdered by the cow man revolution because apparently he played
a pivotal role in it.
I don't know.
But yeah, that's the story of William Bozak and the Bozak bovine cow man humanoid, whatever
you want to call it.
Where are you?
What are you feeling?
How are you?
How are you feeling?
It's interesting, but like, I don't understand why somebody would feel the need to embed something
like that.
So I don't, I don't discount that he saw something, but like as a cow thing, I think maybe he
just seen so many cows in his lifetime that he like maybe saw like an alien or something
like that.
And it's just like, he's like looking through this portal and he's like, oh, it's a cow
hedge.
Oh, is it, is it buddy?
Yeah.
The fact that he is a dairy farmer and he saw a cow man is kind of convenient in a way.
But I guess, I guess if you're just around cows all day, they're really your only point
of reference on how to do like, it's like the human brain, you know how we, we try to
see faces and everything.
Yeah.
Maybe he tries to see cows and everything.
Yeah.
It's like that.
Like whenever he sees a weird knot in a plank of wood, he's like, that's not a, that's clearly
a cow where everyone else would see like a face of a dog or something, you know what
I mean?
But fucking Jesus, he's like, no, that's clearly a cow.
Every burnt piece of toast to him is just a cow, not Jesus.
Well, I mean, I think that's a, it's, I think he maybe just had a, a, you know, a left bowl
encounter and then ended up turning into this bigger thing to him.
But again, I don't even know.
I don't know.
We'll never know.
Do I think he saw a cow, man?
No, but I don't, but I don't know at the same time.
But what, but like you said, what reason does this 70 year old man in the seventies have
to gain from it?
Like, as far as I know, he didn't like get a book deal or a movie, like nothing came
from it.
And he stuck to the story his whole life.
Right.
Like he didn't gain anything from it.
The only people who really gained something from it was probably those two UFO researchers
who interviewed him.
They probably wrote it in magazines and books and probably got paid to do some, but he just,
it's just like, fuck it, man.
I'll take a lie detector test.
I don't give a fuck.
Yeah.
Back in old YouTube days, I remember they're talking about how there was 72 different species
of aliens living on planet earth right now.
Now, how would we know?
And I can only tell you, I mean, you know, you know, there's like a guy will just be
standing in front of a group of people and he'll go to every single one of them.
Like, okay, dude, like maybe, but this is ridiculous.
I think I could name like maybe four or five at the most.
Yeah.
You got grays, tall whites, reptilians.
If you're going off, fucking Swery Carey from Project Camelot, you got the raptors and the
Palladiums or something like that.
Is that a thing?
Yeah.
I feel like that's a thing.
And then I think the Nordics and the tall whites, the same kind of thing, I guess.
Yeah.
But we also covered that.
I think they're the same people that live in the center of the earth in hollow earth.
Yeah.
Dude, I tried to get a flat earth person to come on my show.
Have you had that flat earth person come on yet?
Or have you done a flat earth show?
No, we did.
We did hollow earth.
I want to do flat earth, but I think before I do flat earth, I want to do hollow moon
because I think that's way funnier.
I used to work with the flat earther and he was also a proud boy and a Trump supporter.
So nothing he said I took seriously.
So I feel like it's funny how it's funny how those two worlds, they really intersect with
one another.
I think it just goes to show that they're just a bunch of bright, bright people.
But you know, smartest of the bunch.
I appreciate them.
All right, Josh.
Well, I appreciate you coming on.
We're pretty much at the end of it.
Do you want to plug your stuff?
I know you got your shop, your podcast.
Just let everyone know where they can find you.
Yeah.
I do a billion different things, tattoo or illustrator, and I run the Hellmouth paranormal.
So I just do t-shirts and just fun kind of stuff.
So you can either find me at joshuandrablander.com, which I thought it was cool.
Twenty years of getting that address.
But now where I'm like trying to give people my email address and like, all right, it's
me Josh.
Yeah.
I was afraid I didn't spell it correctly because there were so many letters.
Yeah.
It's ridiculous.
But yeah, you just Google my name Joshua Blander and it'll come up.
So yeah.
I'll be sure to link all your links in the episode description.
But yeah, make sure you follow him.
Make sure you follow us on Instagram and TikTok.
Crypto cocktail and crypto cocktail party respectively.
And with that Josh, do you want to say goodbye to everyone?
All right.
Well, thank you very much for having me on.
Yeah.
Have a good one.