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Welcome back to another episode of Cryptid Cocktail Party, a show where we have a few

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drinks, share a few laughs, take a dive into the unknown.

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I'm your host Dave, and I almost forgot to unmute my microphone.

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And I am joined today by Mr. Cryptid Clyde.

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What's going on, man?

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Hey, how you doing?

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Doing all right.

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Cryptid is your first name, right?

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So it's Mr. Clyde.

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Yeah, my dad is Mr. Clyde.

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It's just the Cryptid Clyde.

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Gotcha.

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Oh, but how you doing, man?

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I'm so glad that you were able to hop on this.

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I'm very excited.

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Hey, yeah, I'm good.

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Apart from the voluntary audio difficulties we had, I'm doing great now.

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Yeah, we found a workaround.

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And you know, through the magic of AI, I can make you sound like you're in the room with

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me, maybe.

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We'll figure it out.

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Fantastic.

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Yeah.

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But you're doing good.

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I haven't spoken to you in person since Squawkapalooza, which was the first and only time I've ever

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spoken to you in person.

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But I had a great time there.

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And I'm very glad that you were my booth neighbor, I guess.

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Yeah, same.

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What was the there was somebody playing music or something, right?

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There was.

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Oh, yeah.

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It was the balloon artist right next to you, right?

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No, it was it was the the anime artist that was across from us.

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And they were blasting Wu-Tang Clan and not like the family friendly.

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Not that there is many, but like this is this is a kid friendly event.

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So anyone who wasn't Squawkapalooza, this was like a family friendly.

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It was like a really in a park in a small town and it was like really nice.

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And then these dudes just set up these like a full on PA system and just start blasting

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the most aggressively violent rap, which I'm fine with it.

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But they're sure.

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I mean, Wu-Tang is for the children.

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So it's not.

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I believe that's what I messaged you.

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And I was like, good thing this is a family event because Wu-Tang is for the children.

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If it was anywhere else, this would be highly inappropriate.

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Absolutely.

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Absolutely.

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Every Chuck E. Cheese birthday has Wu-Tang playing.

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Oh, yeah.

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I mean, I used to work at Chuck E. Cheese, so I can confirm that that is the case.

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The animatronic.

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Yeah, they actually switched out the animatronic band that used to play at Chuck E. Cheese.

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And it's just animatronic Wu-Tang now.

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It's just nine nine dudes just going full bars on these eight year olds.

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The full what, like 36 chambers or whatever?

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Yeah, it's fine.

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Oh my God.

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Oh, that was so aggressive.

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I loved it though.

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It was.

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Yeah, it was great.

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It was great.

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Oh, well, yeah, man, I'm super glad that you were able to come.

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I guess for anyone who I guess for people who don't know who you are, I guess, do you

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want to do a shamelessly plug yourself for like a minute or two?

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I mean, I'm a dude who just likes to draw monsters and found that he used to do that

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by having a shop as my side gig.

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I do graphic design for a day job, but this is a way to do something actually follow my

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I know a lot of people who are graphic designers in their personal, like in their actual job.

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like monster horror artwork.

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Like, I need to stop designing logos for like, yeah, Vineyard Vines.

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I need to do something and they just get into this dark space.

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It's a real chicken and the egg situation for sure.

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So Clyde, you have no idea what we're going to talk about today, right?

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No, I'm coming in blind.

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And it's safe to say that I usually ask people, you're clearly a cryptids guy.

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So you might actually know what we're talking about today.

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As far as cryptids go, I know a little about a lot.

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So we'll see how this goes.

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So the original topic I had for this is what I titled the episode.

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And the first like four paragraphs are about that.

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And then I just went off the rails.

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So this episode either A, won't make any sense, like chronologically.

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But in researching the topic that we're about to discuss, I found that it went way further

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back than I thought it did.

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And like the roots of the lore in the story.

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So I had to kind of like, I had kind of like scrap my idea halfway through and then just

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shoehorn in the backstory.

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But I think I think I made it work.

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Now, Clyde, second question.

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You've been in New Orleans?

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As much as I would love to go, I have never been though.

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Well, I'm going to give you some backstory on New Orleans.

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So New Orleans is easily one of the most famous cities in the United States.

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I can't really find it hard to argue that.

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Most people know what New Orleans is.

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It's the home of some of the most famous people on the planet, like Lil Wayne's from New Orleans,

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Louis Armstrong and noted asshole possible white supremacist and front man of the band

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Pantera, Phil Anselmo is also from there.

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Just a wide array of people.

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It's a popular tourist destination thanks to its insanely good music scene.

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metal, all of it.

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Most everything that comes out of there is pretty much gold.

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It's best known for its Creole and Cajun cuisine.

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And every year the city holds one of the wildest and longest parties Mardi Gras, where the

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whole city goes all out basically for like two weeks, if not longer parades, shows, booze.

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People just whipping out their titties in return for like two cent bead necklaces.

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Again, just an all around good time for the family to enjoy.

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So that's I guess it's pretty much New Orleans in a nutshell.

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There's probably way more to it.

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No, no, that's all we had.

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I mean, when most people think about New Orleans, I feel like Mardi Gras like the first thing

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Yeah, I would assume.

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Now, if you're like me and you like the more macabre things about a city or a place, New

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Orleans isn't just all tits and glamour.

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So the city, the city does have a darker history to it.

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Like for example, from May 1918 to October 1919, New Orleans was home to an unknown and

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never caught axe murderer dubbed the Axeman of New Orleans.

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Who is a side.

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Oh, yeah, so who in the span of that year killed six people, injured six more and then

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famously ended by writing like a letter to the police or something like that, saying

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that if everyone in the city blares jazz music at this time on a specific date, I'll just

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pass through your city, which he did.

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Apparently like a bunch of like pretty much everyone was just blaring jazz, which is kind

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of fucked up that they just kind of bowed to the whim of the serial killer.

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But I think I would probably do the same toe.

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But in true New Orleans fashion, it was a party that solved everything.

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So yeah, that's very accurate.

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And they're probably going to do that anyways.

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Like, oh, let's see.

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It was also home to Jean and Pierre Lafetite, who were famous pirates of the time.

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And Jean gaining a little more fame due to his role on the Pirates of the Caribbean ride.

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When you when you launch off from that ride, it's from I think it's the East's landing

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or something like that.

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Let's see.

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Lee Harvey Oswald, the man who assassinated JFK also hails from New Orleans and supposedly

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assassinated JFK.

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Oh, sorry.

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Possible president murder Lee Harvey Oswald may or may not be from New Orleans.

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But undoubtedly the most like horrible person to ever come out of New Orleans is Madame

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Delphine LaLaurie, who was a very rich New Orleans socialite who tortured, mutilated

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and murdered at the very least 12 slaves in the attic of her mansion on Royal Street.

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It's believed that number is much higher and her crimes are only discovered because one

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of her enslaved servants, the cook, I think, just set the house on fire and she was like,

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fuck this.

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I've done with this.

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And so they set the house on fire so that people would come in and like find the crimes.

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Last podcast on the left just did like a really good two part series on it.

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So if you want to learn more about that, definitely go check that out.

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Now, Clyde, hear me out.

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All right.

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Yes, yes, yes.

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I know all this New Orleans history is fun and all.

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And I didn't even get into like the history of like voodoo or witchcraft in the area or

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like the billions of ghost stories and hauntings the city says because there's a shit ton of

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those because some.

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Or the cage tombstone.

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Didn't get into any of that.

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Actually, Nick Cage.

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Fun fact.

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I believe Nick Cage either did or still does own the Lollaree Mansion.

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Yes, I think I think he sold all of this fun tax stuff.

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So yeah, but at one point he owned that and he owned like the church with the graveyard

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in it.

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So anyways, something much darker lurks in the swamps around New Orleans, and it's a

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creature with the body of a man, the head of a wolf and a heart that's just brimming

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with Catholic rage.

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And that creature is known as the Rougarou.

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Are you familiar with the Rougarou?

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I know of it.

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And apart from being mentioned on a few podcasts, it did also because of the movie Wolf Cop.

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So yeah, I know about the.

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Oh, God, Wolf Cop, man.

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I forgot about that movie.

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Tragedy.

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All right.

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So said to stalk the swamps around New Orleans and a katiana, I don't know how to pronounce

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this.

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I'm just going to say that's what it is as well as sugar cane fields and woodlands of

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the surrounding areas.

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The Rougarou is essentially a werewolf.

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It's a cursed man who at night during the full moon is transformed into a towering monster

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with the body of a human, albeit covered in fur, just yoked as all hell.

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Long and sharp teeth and cloths.

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Oh, my God.

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Teeth and claws.

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I'm having a mild stroke right now.

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And the head of the wolf, it said that when the Rougarou is in its wolf like form, it

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always retains its full human intelligence, memory and sense of self, which is kind of

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an upsell if you ask me.

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I don't see any downsides to that because you could be pretty much a superhero.

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100 percent.

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I mean, in the argument of the Empire werewolf, I'm always the werewolf crew.

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So Abby, all of your senses and abilities.

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Hell yeah.

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I'm in a heartbeat.

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Now, tales of the Rougarou have been around for centuries in French folklore, starting

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with stories of the Lougarou.

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And this is where my script just kind of stops talking about the Rougarou altogether.

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I found out that the Rougarou is just the Lougarou, but since it's in Creole, they just

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made it a different sound.

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But Lougarou just means werewolf.

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So this episode is basically about werewolf.

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So we're going to have fun with that.

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Excellent.

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Excellent.

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This is dating all the way back to at least the 16th century.

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So not only were, you know, there are endless wars, hunger, disease, famine, droughts and

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dragons are all part of your daily worries.

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Now you also got werewolves to deal with in the 16th century, which is just sounds awful.

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Just piling on, right?

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Yeah.

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I mean, and during this time, a lot of people would just blame the Lougarou for a number

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of different things back then.

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So like something murdered all your livestock, the Lougarou did it.

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Your kid get killed, Lougarou.

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Your wife leave you for the blacksmith.

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That was the Lougarou.

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Lougarou.

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And just like in Salem during like the witch trials, if you were just like a general, generally

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like weird and off putting dude, there's a good chance that you're just going to be accused

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of and tried and probably convicted under the suspicion of being a werewolf.

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So yeah, it's just all good.

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Now for the most part, the Lougarou is used more as like a cautionary tale for children,

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like all good folklore is and should be used for.

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You got to really traumatize them young so that way it sticks with them, you know?

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Very Ray Riding Hood, a big bad wolf kind of thing.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's like if you don't clean your room, the Lougarou is going to fucking kill you.

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That kind of thing.

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That is until 1764 when a quote unquote real life Lougarou dubbed the Beast of Gévaudan

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terrorized the French countryside for about three full years, starting with the brutal

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killing of a 14 year old farm girl named Jean Boulet.

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I'm just making up how to say these names in French, but they sound fine.

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And that happened near the Allier River in June of that first year.

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It then continued its rampage, injuring and dismembering and even decapitating several

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people.

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News of the beast spread across France.

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People were rightfully terrified with the news eventually reaching the ear of King Louis

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the 15th, who ended up sending his own hunters and even his personal bodyguard, Francois

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Antoine to track and kill the beast.

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And on September 21st, 1765, Francois and his men killed a large wolf that they assumed

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was the beast responsible.

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So good for them.

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But I do believe that it's just like we got the wolf guys.

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So yeah, so probably one.

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So with a job well done from the king, him and his men dusted themselves off, collected

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their reward and just got the fuck out of there.

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But then the attack started back up again and continued for two years.

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But since the king had already told everyone that the beast responsible was dead and he

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didn't want to look like a fucking asshole, he just ignored it.

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He just ignored them this time in newspapers of the day.

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The authorities, they all did the same.

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So over the course of those like three years, the beast of Jeboudin killed at least 100

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people with some sources claiming the total number killed could be as high as 300, which

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is fucking bonkers.

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Like if you think about everything else happening at this time to be 300 people just killed

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by a werewolf, like that's wild.

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It's absolutely insane, especially even if we're going to go like the logical route of

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the being just a wild animal.

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Like that body counts huge.

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It's really high.

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It's like not OK.

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It was just so just like an all around bad time for everyone involved.

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But luckily for the people of Jeboudin, a local hunter named Jean Chastel put an end to the

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attacks when he shot and killed a large animal on June 19th, 1767 that witnesses described

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as a wolf, but like a super weird looking one.

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It had a massive head and his fur was red, white and gray, which no one had ever seen

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before.

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And to this day, no one really knows what it was.

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There are theories that like it was an escaped like juvenile male wolf.

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So like it had like a had a mane, but not like a full wolf.

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Sorry, lion.

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So like it had.

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Oh, yeah.

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Had a mane, but not like a full lion's mane.

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It's like the halfway transition, like teenage Simba from The Lion King.

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You know what I mean?

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Yeah, Simba.

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Yeah, totally.

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That's just, you know, hot.

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Oh, yeah.

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The hottest.

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I've also heard a high either was sort of out there a couple of times, too.

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I heard hyena as well that which this fur color actually kind of more tracks, I guess,

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to being a hyena.

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But like, what the fuck's a hyena doing in France?

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Like, oh, yeah.

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I heard these answers give any logic to it.

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No, that doesn't make sense.

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But I mean, it also makes no sense that there's a full on werewolf.

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So you know, really, really any explanation at this point, I'll take it.

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But you're probably wondering how did the Lugru, this French werewolf folklore end up

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becoming the Rugeru, which is now a staple in New Orleans folklore?

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Maybe not, but I'm going to assume you are.

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So I'm going to keep going.

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Well, that's good.

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It's it's pretty simple.

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They're one in the same.

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Like I said at the top, when the French settled to Louisiana, as well as the French Canadian

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immigrants who came centuries ago, they brought this folklore with them and the legends as

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well.

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And then the Canadian, the French Canadian ended up more assimilating with like the Native

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Americans and the indigenous peoples of Canada in the area.

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And then they kind of just melded all their shit together because Native Americans and

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First Nations people also had like wolf man.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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So that's how they kind of just they just melded America, truly a melting pot of cultures.

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You know what I mean?

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Well, yeah, I was going to say, actually, the whole thing is reminiscent of the Shunka

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Warrickon, which is also another weird kind of wolf.

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Sure.

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But yeah, so yeah, it was it was more the Rugeru.

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So the French came over and then they met with the Native Americans and indigenous peoples,

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the First Nations in Canada.

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And they're like, yo, you have a fucked up wolf.

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We have a fucked up wolf.

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Let's just kind of team up and we'll just kind of see how this plays out.

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But then those people emigrated to New Orleans.

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And what happened was the name Rugeru and Lugeru, like I said, are actually both used

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in Louisiana.

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It just depends on how you're feeling that day.

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And in reality, the most likely reason is because Cajun dialect is a mixture of both

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English and French and the Cajun and they're kind of just known to just completely change

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the pronunciation of words just to have them kind of like roll off the tongue easier.

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So Lou became Rue.

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And that's kind of how that happens.

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So you're probably thinking, well, how does one become a Rugeru?

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If exactly whether whether you want to avoid it or make a transformation like a big life

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decision.

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Well, there's a couple of different ways.

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One is kind of dumb.

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The legend has it that only a witch can make a Rugeru either by turning into a wolf themselves

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or by giving people the curse of lycanthropy, which is probably the lamest of all the legends.

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I'm not even going to humor that one.

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Another legend states that a Rugeru is only cursed for like one hundred and one days,

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but they can transfer the curse to another human if they shed their blood.

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Now, I heard two versions of this and neither of them make sense to me.

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So the first one is, is that the Rugeru has to spill the blood of a victim, not kill the

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person, just make them bleed.

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And that person becomes a Rugeru.

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And then the original one can go back to human form.

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But then the other person is a Rugeru for one hundred and one days unless it does the

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same thing or it doesn't tell anyone about them being a Rugeru or they or they don't

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tell anyone about the encounter they had with the Rugeru.

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So it's and then the other version is just it's that but reverse.

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So the human makes the Rugeru bleed and then the original one becomes human again.

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But now that person's a Rugeru.

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I don't it's like a weird fucked up version of like it's like it's like the videotape

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from the ring.

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It's either you die in seven days or you make someone watch the videotape.

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It's kind of like that.

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It's like a werewolf chain letter, basically.

404
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Yeah, it neither of them makes sense.

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I don't understand.

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Yeah, the other one day thing, that's a new one.

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I don't hurt that part.

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Now another way and this is probably my favorite way just because it's hilarious that you could

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have a Rugeru.

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This is according to French Catholics.

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So if you break or don't recognize the tradition of Lent for seven years, you'll be transformed

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into a Rugeru and then your only mission from then on out is to hunt down and kill other

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Catholics who do not follow the rules.

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So as a kid, it was raised Catholic and it's not practice Lent for over a decade.

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I guess you don't want to do it every time, you know, I'd rather watch your back because

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something's coming for you pretty soon.

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It could either end really good or really bad for you, man.

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I don't know.

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I just I love my meat and during Lent, man, what can I say?

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No fish, no lay fruit.

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But what if like what if your thing for Lent is giving up Lent?

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You know, or during up being a werewolf.

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Yeah, there's no.

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But Rugerus and Lugerus are werewolves.

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I'm just gonna say werewolves from now on because Rugeru is just not rolling off the

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tongue as much as I'd like it to.

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They aren't all that bad.

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According to legend, yes, they are mostly creatures of vengeance or at least that's

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what I read.

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But they're also beasts of protection and somewhat like a guardian angel.

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They've been known to befriend and protect the downtrodden and those society has rejected

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orphans, widows, the houseless.

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That's only if you're pure of heart.

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So if you're a shitty orphan, fuck off.

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You got to look out for Krampus and you got to look out for the Lugeru.

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Yeah, they're all coming for you.

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But let's say you don't want anything to do with those things.

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You just want to make sure that you never come face to face with a werewolf or a Rugeru

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in this case.

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There are a couple of different things you can do to kind of like stay off the radar.

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I guess one would be to make sure at least once every seven years you just observe once.

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The other one is classic silver.

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Just keep a silver something on you and they'll kind of just leave you alone.

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And then this one is kind of weird.

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Out of your house, you want to leave 13 objects.

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Now the reason for this is because they will for some reason instinctively try to count

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those items.

448
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Oh, the vampire with the rice stick.

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Yeah, but apparently Rugerus can't count past 12.

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So that's a fun wrinkle.

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So what happens is they'll get to 12 and then they'll just fucking short circuit and get

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really frustrated.

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And they're just like, it's like a game of Monopoly.

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They just flip the board and be like, fuck this game.

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I'm out of here.

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Just go back to whatever they're doing.

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But this one doesn't make any sense.

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And the reason why is because the legend says that you retain your sense of self and all

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that stuff.

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And is that the one caveat is that you are you as a human being in the head of a Rugeru.

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You cannot do math.

462
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Yeah.

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Math is just not in the equation for you.

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Literally.

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Oh my god.

466
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I had never learned that part.

467
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That's incredible.

468
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That's good, right?

469
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Yeah.

470
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Oh shit.

471
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All right.

472
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Well, there you go.

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Whatever.

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There you have it.

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That is the legend of the Rugeru, aka the Lugeru, aka werewolves.

476
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Yeah.

477
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Wow.

478
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That's I really I'm still getting over this.

479
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There is so of all the weaknesses of any counting the 13 was not on the trade.

480
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Yeah, I know.

481
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When I when I saw that, I was like, you, you got to be fucking kidding me.

482
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That doesn't make any sense.

483
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But I'm here for it.

484
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I love it.

485
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Oh my god.

486
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But do you do you think it's like 13 for like that weird like a like?

487
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Superstition.

488
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:08,880
There's there's a whole lot of weird stuff around 13, like a lot of again, this is the

489
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,680
years of Catholicism I was born into.

490
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:17,600
But you know, trills of biblical number that pops up a lot like the 12 tribes of Israel

491
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,600
and the temples and everything.

492
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,960
So you know, the 13th has always had this weird religious subtext to it.

493
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:28,640
So if we're going with the witchcraft explanation, I think that kind of lines up this not so

494
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:35,440
much the counting cart, but the numbers it itself is a spooky number.

495
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:41,040
Plus maybe back in like the 16th century, counting to 13, you probably never had to

496
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,040
do that before.

497
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,240
You know, they weren't you a baker's dozen back then, man.

498
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,120
Yeah, a dozen was a hard dozen.

499
00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:51,360
Anything past that is either two dozen or a half dozen.

500
00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:56,000
It doesn't matter.

501
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,480
Oh my God, that's I.

502
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:00,480
Yeah, go on.

503
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,440
Well, I was going to say, I'm glad you enjoyed the story.

504
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:05,440
Thoughts?

505
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:06,480
Where are we at?

506
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,520
Do you still have love for werewolves?

507
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,320
And this, if anything, has made it better for me.

508
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:11,320
I don't know about you.

509
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,520
I mean, I've always been terrible at math.

510
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,480
So the whole like flipping the table at number 13, 100 percent.

511
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:17,480
I'm there.

512
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,360
It makes it really humanizes it.

513
00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:21,360
It really does.

514
00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:24,360
I could emphasize that a lot.

515
00:27:24,360 --> 00:27:32,680
Yeah, no, I I love the werewolf legends in general, man.

516
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,840
It's just it's such a unique thing.

517
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:41,120
Like I feel like a lot of cryptos are either really, really like way out there, weird or

518
00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:43,120
like very, very grounded.

519
00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:44,120
Yeah.

520
00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:47,800
Like, you know, Bigfoot just primate is unkind.

521
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,520
That's relatively mundane.

522
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:55,680
But like werewolves right in this middle part of like it's human, but it's not.

523
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,200
It's got all these legends from different peoples and whatnot.

524
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,200
It's interesting.

525
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:05,120
But also like like the Bigfoot, I feel like most cultures, no matter where you are, have

526
00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:12,080
some sort of like hand therapy story in their like belief system and or just their like

527
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,080
history in general.

528
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,320
So, I mean, it's kind of like the Bigfoot in that sense.

529
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,360
Yeah, it is kind of a universal thing.

530
00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:20,360
Yeah.

531
00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:24,760
And it's it's also weird that it's primarily canines.

532
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:30,360
I think there's part of that is like, you know, us domesticating them so early on in

533
00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:35,120
our humanity, you know, that that's a part of our culture in a way.

534
00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:37,520
But you don't see too many other animals.

535
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,560
There are occasionally like I've heard like were hyenas and there's, you know, the bear

536
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,160
circus kind of thing from Viking legend, whatnot.

537
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,120
But it's most bugs.

538
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,120
Yeah.

539
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,120
Don't get too ahead of yourself.

540
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,680
I didn't put this in the story and I'm going to try and find it now.

541
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:57,840
But there are legends of there are legends of the Rougarou where it's not a wolf, but

542
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,360
it could be it could be a rabbit.

543
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,680
It could be a bear.

544
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:07,520
It could be a rabbit.

545
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:21,920
It's not it's not widely accepted, but that is that is one of the things is that it could

546
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,200
have the head of.

547
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,200
I just flash into light and I did a leap is basically man.

548
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,720
The giant rabbits wreak havoc.

549
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,520
Oh, oh, my God, a rabbit.

550
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:34,520
Yeah.

551
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,840
But it still has it still has the massively jacked human body.

552
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,240
Oh, that's just but just like a bunny head.

553
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,960
Oh, I don't I don't like that image.

554
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:45,960
It's not ideal.

555
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:52,480
No, because what's fucked up is that it still does all the same things that the werewolf

556
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,920
would do, but it's just a bunny now.

557
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,720
Oh, my God.

558
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:09,040
Just just picturing that bunny with a body count of three hundred.

559
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,680
That bunny's putting up numbers, man.

560
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:11,680
Tell you what.

561
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,480
And now the whole thing makes sense with Easter, man.

562
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,320
That just lined up to perfect.

563
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,640
Oh, my God.

564
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,520
I will just spit out my beer.

565
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,040
Oh, shit.

566
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:31,600
All right, that's it's about that time we're going to wrap things up.

567
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,320
I want to say, OK, thank you again so much for coming on.

568
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:36,320
We'll definitely do this again.

569
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:37,320
It's a goal.

570
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:38,320
We'll do 100 percent.

571
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:39,640
We'll do this again.

572
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,040
And hopefully next time the better audio version will work.

573
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,040
Let's hope.

574
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:50,200
But before we go, just tell people where they can find you, where they can buy your art

575
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,400
stickers, all that stuff, just so they know.

576
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,280
And I'll link it all in the episode description as well.

577
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:55,280
Oh, cool.

578
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,280
Yeah, I don't have many links.

579
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:58,280
I got Instagram.

580
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,720
It's just a cryptic dash Clyde on there.

581
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,280
My I'm sorry, not cryptic dash, cryptic underscore Clyde.

582
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:12,840
Cryptic dash Clyde dot shop is my website.

583
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,600
And that's actually it.

584
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,560
So yeah, hell yeah, man.

585
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:17,840
I appreciate you.

586
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:23,160
Make sure to follow us at Cryptic Cocktail Party on Instagram and Twitter.

587
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,480
Follow me on TikTok at Cryptic Cocktail Party.

588
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:30,560
I don't ever really use it, but it's fun to just find stock footage and then put voiceovers

589
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:31,560
over it.

590
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,160
But yeah, that's it for me.

591
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,680
You want to say bye to everyone?

592
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:50,120
Bye everyone.

