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Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of Cryptid Cocktail Party.

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A show where I have a few drinks, talk at friends about cryptids, aliens, anything paranormal.

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I'm your host Dave and today I'm joined once again by my good friend Colby Clark.

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How you doing bud?

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Hi everybody.

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I'm doing good.

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Are you?

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Yeah, mind blown.

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You look like you're about to fall asleep.

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Do I look sleepy?

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You do, but you always kind of look sleepy.

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And I don't really smoke that much weed anymore so.

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It can't be, it can't be that.

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Says the man who has his microphone propped up on a weed jar.

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But I've had that for a while.

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The weed or the jar?

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Yeah, well both.

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Okay.

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So Colby, you joined us last week when we talked about the Flatwoods monster.

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How did you feel about that one?

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It was super cool, really creepy.

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A lot of bad decisions were made by everyone involved and highly interpretable.

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Yeah, I guess.

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I mean, I definitely don't think it was an owl perched in a tree, but who knows?

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I don't know.

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Who knows?

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I don't know.

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You don't know.

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It's not for me to say.

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You're right.

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It's not for us to say.

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Well, Colby, today I'm going to tell you about a story that is a little bit closer to home

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for you.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Today we're going to be talking about the Dover Demon.

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Oh.

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Not from Dover, New Hampshire, where we are originally from, but the Dover Demon of Dover,

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Massachusetts.

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I always forget there's a lot of Dovers.

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There's so much that, especially in New England.

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It's mostly, New England's mostly Dovers.

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And if not Dovers, there's Andovers.

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It's sub Dovers.

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Just a bunch of Dovers and sub genres of Dover.

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But anyways, have you heard of the Dover Demon before?

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Do you know what I'm talking about?

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It sounds a little familiar, but I don't know.

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I don't know any deep cuts.

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You don't know any of the meat and potatoes of the story?

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I don't.

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I don't.

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All right.

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Well, should we just hop into it then?

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Yes.

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Oh, also, I feel like we haven't done this yet.

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So we just called a cryptid cocktail party, a show where we drink drinks.

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And I talk at my friends about cryptids and a bunch of weird high strangeness bullshit.

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But we didn't talk about what we were drinking.

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And I'm drinking a delicious PBR.

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Colby, what are you drinking today?

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Oh, that's a good one.

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That's a go to.

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I'm drinking a double IPA from a modest man called When Disaster Strikes, which a disaster

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should strike when aliens are afoot.

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Am I right?

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No, fair enough.

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This one, I don't think is an alien.

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I don't know what this is.

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OK.

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But and I wouldn't say disaster really struck.

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I mean, it's probably devastating for the people who saw the Dover Demon, I would imagine.

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But that Flatwoods guy was like, I wish this never happened.

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I'll never get over it.

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Yeah.

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Seems like America will never get over it.

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It's like seems like you're projecting bad.

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Yeah.

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The Dover Demon didn't wake up and choose violence.

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I think it's just his nature.

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But anyways, let's let's hop into it, Colby.

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I want to tell you the story.

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I'm down.

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I'm down.

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Yeah.

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I'm debating if I should read this in a Boston accent.

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I'm not going to do that.

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Sounds too much.

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Just pepper it in.

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I'm good.

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Oh, it's definitely get peppered in.

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Don't you worry about it.

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All right.

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So Dover, Massachusetts is located just 15 miles south of Boston, right along the Charles

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River.

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It's one of the wealthiest towns in the state with a medium income of about two hundred

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and fifty thousand dollars amongst its five thousand residents.

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So it's not a big town, but it is rich.

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I think I read that every house has an acre or more.

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So not only is it a small town, but I feel like no one really lives near each other.

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Apparently, I don't know how big an acre is to you.

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I mean, if if you own a structure and you own the land, yeah, you're doing well.

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An acre.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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Farm talk.

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I grew up in the sticks that we would know what an acres I did.

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I used to have a wood stove in my house and I still don't know what a what a quart of

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wood means.

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All right.

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It's the unit of measurement used to measure wood.

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So, you know, the more you know.

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All right.

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Well, anyways, like I said, it's a pretty small town, not very big, but it does have

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some notable people from there.

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Do you want to say all right?

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We got Adam Gronofsky from the band The War on Drugs, like an indie psych band, which

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I thought they were from Philly, which I guess they are.

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But apparently he grew up in Dover, Massachusetts.

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Bowden I'm going to butcher this boat.

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Bowden, but ma haw hawk.

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I think he led the he led the team that performed the first full face transplant.

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So the movie face off.

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Yeah, sorry, Nick Cage and John Travolta.

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For that movie, right?

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Yes, because in that movie, they literally took each other's faces and apparently also

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their body build as well.

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And if if if we're going to make some some moves through science here, you know, let's

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make sure it's captured on video and produced in Hollywood.

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Obviously, and also Milt Schmidt, who is a former player, coach and GM for the Boston

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Bruins, as well as a Hall of Famer in the NHL.

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Milt or milk?

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Milt Colby.

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Either way.

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That's cool.

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Dude, if his name was milk Schmidt.

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Oh, God.

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But but all those people, they're just they're just small fries.

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All right.

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I think that's my favorite part about all these stories is the names like people do

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and naming their kids shit.

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Oh, they get better.

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And this story is pretty good.

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They have the most, I guess, New England names.

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Does that make sense?

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Milt Milt sounds like like they were too busy.

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They're too hard at work to do like a full name.

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The working class people, you know, Milt.

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It's not it's not Milton.

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The next one, not Milton, Milton.

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Now, Milt is on the certificate.

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Wild.

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But like I said, no one gives a shit about those dudes.

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The real star to come out of the small town is a creature that over the span of just 24

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hours in 1977 terrorized four teenagers and left a lasting impression on the town of Dover,

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New England and the world.

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That creature was the Dover Demon.

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Is that good?

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Is that a good voice that I really love it?

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I mean, as low as you can go there, you know, I can go lower.

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Dover Demon.

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Dover Demon.

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With the D on the end, you got to add the D.

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So the first sighting of the creature occurred on April 21st, 1977.

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Fucking Billy Botlet, dude, was driving with some buddies down far off.

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You probably fucking ripping back some Sam Summers, dude.

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There it is.

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Mixing a couple of fucking milkshakes, Bob.

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Dude, fucking quickie.

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My name is Billy Botlet.

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Nesquicks.

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I was in my fucking.

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Strawberry Nesquicks.

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I was in my fucking IROC, dude.

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I got a couple of buddies in the back.

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We're pounding back Sam Summers, dude.

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Driving down Farm Street, dude, it's like 10, 11 at night when all of a sudden in the fucking

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pucker brush, dude, there's a fucking little dinky dude and I was like, yo, what the fuck

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is this?

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He's just standing in the pucker brush, dude, and I'm fucking I'm half in the bag.

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You know me, I'm doing a buck buck 20 down the road.

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You know, it's windy.

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I'm fucking losing control, but I know I got it.

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You know, I used to read.

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I know, you know, we have fun.

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Well, you were having a blast, dude.

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Fucking buddies in the back.

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That's not that.

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Yeah, they got the region.

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But anyways, Billy Barlow was driving some buddies down Farm Street sometime between

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like 10 and 11 p.m. when he caught a glimpse of something in his headlights and he spots

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what he thinks may be a loose pet dog, cat possum.

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I don't know what they had for pets back then.

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I say back then, like so long ago.

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But it was something like slinking along a stone wall just off the road.

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As he gets closer to the pocket.

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He's right in the pocket brush.

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He was slinking along.

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Everyone's just going to talk like a roofer from the through in this entire thing.

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As he gets closer.

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I mean, how else are you going to make your money?

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As he gets closer, the figure turns to look at him.

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So the creature is about three to five to three to three and a half to four feet tall

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or exactly one Danny DeVito in height.

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What was he doing in Massachusetts?

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Barlow described it as a as a baby's body with long arms and legs and had long spindly

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fingers that he was using to grip the wall.

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The skin was hairless, peach in color, had a rough texture.

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He said that it looked like friggin wet sandpaper, which I don't even know.

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I mean, what like what is what sandpaper?

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Is that a texture?

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Is that a thing people think of?

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I mean, I mean, when your father and your father's father was a carpenter, you know

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what sandpaper looks like in its different forms.

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And how did he know?

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How do you know from a distance?

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Did he touch it?

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Did he touch the baby with long arms?

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Did you touch the baby?

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Did you touch it?

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Believe you, Billy, Billy, I don't believe you, Billy.

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Don't fucking lie to me, Billy.

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Billy, I'm going to throw you in the fucking mash.

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Departed movie.

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It's stuck in the pocket brush.

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He said his skin was like it was like wet sandpaper.

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Its head almost too big for his body.

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The head, they said, was probably the same size as the body that rested on a long, thin

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neck and the face was devoid of any features except for two large almond shaped eyes that

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seem to be glowing in Billy's headlights.

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Why are the eyes always glowing?

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I don't know.

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Always glowing.

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Well, with the flat was monster, I feel like that was like it was like a robot.

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So I mean, it probably had eternal like like it was emitting that light.

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They say the eyes are glowing.

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I think maybe it was just reflection from like, you know, when a dog has cataracts and

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you shine a light at it, it's right.

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Flex back.

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Right.

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It could be something like that.

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I don't know.

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I mean, I think somebody told me this the other day that you everybody gets cataracts,

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regardless of how good your eyesight is, it just depends on how long you live.

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So maybe it's just a very old creature and it did have cataracts and it was just super,

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you know, just had no idea where it was.

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Super lost.

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I mean, it's a little bit of help.

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Yeah.

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What if what if it's not a demon, but more of a not demon?

258
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I don't know.

259
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Yeah.

260
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I would.

261
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I mean, yeah.

262
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Oh, yeah.

263
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No, it's the.

264
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No, yeah, that's I don't know.

265
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I was going to say angel, but that's not right.

266
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All right.

267
00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,920
But the encounter with the cow was brief.

268
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It only lasted about a few seconds.

269
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Billy turns to his friends like, yo, you guys fucking seen this yet, dude?

270
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This fucking creepy beast right here.

271
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This fucking pretty sure I just saw Ken Casey on the side of the road.

272
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You know, he's a couple of years is deep too late to go record the new dropkick album.

273
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Do you guys see fucking Ken Casey on the side of the road?

274
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Guys, I think I just saw fucking Al Ba.

275
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Yeah.

276
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But apparently I can only imagine.

277
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But apparently no one in the car had seen what he saw.

278
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So he went about just dropping his buds off at home.

279
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He goes home and tells his father what he had seen, makes a sketch of the creature,

280
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which I'm going to text you right now just so I can get your other immediately beat him

281
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for making up lies.

282
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It is it is south of Boston.

283
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So I'm not I was on a roof all day on a 90 degree pitch kid.

284
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You're fucking coming home telling me these stories about these wild beasts you saw in

285
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the woods.

286
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Fuck you.

287
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Get to your room.

288
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Oh, oh, you saw a baby.

289
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Would you knock some fucking ho up from fucking Northy?

290
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And now she's fucking telling you she's got a baby with long arms.

291
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Fuck, listen to you spindly fuck.

292
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I know it's your kid.

293
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I know it's your kid.

294
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I'd say you a picture of the sketch.

295
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Tell me what you thought.

296
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Go make me a can of beans.

297
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Go out to Dinty more.

298
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That's what I think.

299
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Go make me some fucking dinty more.

300
00:14:01,820 --> 00:14:03,600
You know, a lot of people don't know about Dinty more.

301
00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,880
I don't know what Dinty more is.

302
00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,160
Dinty more beef stew.

303
00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:15,200
Got the most sodium any stew on the market.

304
00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:21,160
Wait, is that the selling point?

305
00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,600
This will dry your insides out faster than any other stew.

306
00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,120
You're going to be so fucking thirsty.

307
00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:28,120
What the fuck?

308
00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:29,120
Yeah.

309
00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:35,840
I bought a can of it because I've been telling Maddie about I'm telling my wife about Dinty

310
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more stew and not a lot of people know about it.

311
00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:39,520
It sounds made up.

312
00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:44,560
I figured somebody from Southy would want a can of Dinty more.

313
00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:49,560
Fuck, dude, that's diabolical right there.

314
00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:50,560
Right.

315
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It's reckless.

316
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Tell the listeners what you are seeing right now.

317
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Did it describe?

318
00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,680
Does it fit the description of what Billy said he saw that night?

319
00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:02,560
I mean, this is different from what I was envisioning for sure.

320
00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,400
This is like.

321
00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:11,680
Lizard like, I guess, in a certain regard, regad.

322
00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:17,080
It's got one of those alien heads, though, where it's like too much brain, too little

323
00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:25,720
body and it's got like cliff notes, like somebody was trying to write it out on the same piece

324
00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,000
of paper they were drawing stuff on.

325
00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:35,080
I, Bill Bartlett, saw this motherfucker.

326
00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:43,520
Yeah, that's that's he just saw like a big frog or something.

327
00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,400
Yeah, it's got to be a big frog, right?

328
00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,600
There's a giant salamander in Japan.

329
00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,040
Yeah, I can't be a big frog.

330
00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:55,480
Was this what what time period was this?

331
00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:56,480
What time period?

332
00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,080
You mean like what year?

333
00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:59,080
What year?

334
00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:00,080
Oh, 70s, 1977.

335
00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:05,080
OK, it was around like 11 o'clock at night, 1030, something like that.

336
00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:06,080
Yeah, right.

337
00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:10,840
Well, you're trying to think it's like they feel like, well, back in 1977, they had giant

338
00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,840
frogs like what?

339
00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,720
I'm trying to piece it together.

340
00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:20,920
The last one was, you know, there was there was the Korean War, I think it was, you know,

341
00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:25,920
I mean, they got those kinds of creatures over there and then they're just it was.

342
00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,520
It was like, you know, back in, you know, that.

343
00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:29,520
Yeah.

344
00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,840
But no, this is Massachusetts in the seven in the 70s.

345
00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,200
So just a great time.

346
00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,680
Definitely wasn't violent and racist completely.

347
00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:37,680
Right.

348
00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:38,680
Yeah.

349
00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:43,320
And they told and they told the authorities that they were just having a couple of Sam's.

350
00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:44,320
Yeah.

351
00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:49,760
But back then, I think it was if you didn't have a beer in the car, the cops legally had

352
00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,320
to give you one.

353
00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:52,320
Right.

354
00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:53,320
Yeah.

355
00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:54,320
Yeah.

356
00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,760
What a cool time.

357
00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:58,760
You got to get home.

358
00:16:58,760 --> 00:16:59,760
Here's one for the road.

359
00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:00,760
Yeah.

360
00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:01,760
Here's your fucking car.

361
00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:02,760
Here's your car.

362
00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:03,760
Yeah.

363
00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:04,760
Get after it.

364
00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:05,760
Yeah.

365
00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:06,760
I don't have any Sam Summers, though.

366
00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:07,760
Run along.

367
00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:08,760
Here's an arrogance.

368
00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:09,760
It tall boy.

369
00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:10,760
Here you go.

370
00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,760
You got to get against you got to crush it like Quint.

371
00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:13,760
Anyways.

372
00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,920
So anyways, that was he make sure you stay safe out there.

373
00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:17,920
Yeah.

374
00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:18,920
Stay safe.

375
00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:19,920
What are you buckled up?

376
00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:20,920
What are you a pussy?

377
00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:21,920
If I could take that off.

378
00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:22,920
Come on.

379
00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:23,920
Yeah.

380
00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,040
Also, if you're going to smoke cigarettes on the way home, make sure all the windows

381
00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:28,040
are up.

382
00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:33,120
If you roof for 10 hours today and you're not having four Sam Summers on your drive

383
00:17:33,120 --> 00:17:38,320
home, this is going to be hell to pay.

384
00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:39,840
You're going to start seeing lizards.

385
00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:45,040
Anyways, the second sighting comes just a few hours after when a 15 year old named Johnny

386
00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:50,480
Baxter was walking down was walking home from his girlfriend's house on Miller Road.

387
00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,480
He knows there's a figure walking towards him on the opposite side of the road.

388
00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,680
Johnny instantly notices his big old melon.

389
00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:01,680
And according to Baxter, he knew a kid on the street that had a huge head and assumed

390
00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:02,680
it was that kid.

391
00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:07,840
I know a guy like that guy that looks just like that.

392
00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:08,840
He calls.

393
00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:10,880
I was like, hey, yo, MJ, you bald was headed.

394
00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:11,880
Fuck.

395
00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:12,880
How are you?

396
00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:13,880
I'm paraphrasing.

397
00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:18,240
But he got no response from the figure.

398
00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,120
They continue walking towards each other till they're good.

399
00:18:21,120 --> 00:18:23,520
Well, like 15 to 20 feet apart.

400
00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:24,520
They both pause.

401
00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:25,520
Now, it's overcast.

402
00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:30,280
So so we can't really see anything.

403
00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,760
All Johnny can see is like a black silhouette.

404
00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,040
So he decided to go.

405
00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,360
Who is that?

406
00:18:35,360 --> 00:18:38,640
As you know, whenever you're walking down the street, when you don't recognize someone,

407
00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,000
you just scream at them.

408
00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,600
Who are you?

409
00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:42,600
You're hoping that they would.

410
00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:43,600
First of all, their name.

411
00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,720
First of all, they'd say I'm it's Tom.

412
00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,480
No, I would head down.

413
00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:50,480
Keep walking past them.

414
00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:51,480
Why would you?

415
00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,520
You don't know who's walking towards you at midnight on the street.

416
00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:54,520
Why would you?

417
00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:55,520
I don't know.

418
00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:56,520
Anyways, right.

419
00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:57,520
Right.

420
00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,600
So like I said, Johnny calls out who is that takes another step forward.

421
00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:07,120
As soon as he does, the figure darts into a wooded area just to the left of the road.

422
00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:14,520
So Johnny clearly lacking any sense of self-preservation decides to run to the woods after it.

423
00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,240
He follows the creature for a bit when he finally sees it about 30 feet away.

424
00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:22,320
He said that it was leaning against a tree in my head.

425
00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:26,000
I picture like leaning against really cool, like arms crossed.

426
00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,600
It's one of them, Abra one foot up.

427
00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,200
You know what I mean?

428
00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,920
Just like, yeah, super cool looking.

429
00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:34,640
I was expecting you.

430
00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:35,640
Yeah.

431
00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,280
He was like, oh, hey, bud, you want it?

432
00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:38,280
You want a bot, dude?

433
00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,800
You're trying to fucking rip this dog with me, dude.

434
00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,320
He says took you long enough.

435
00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,400
You slow fuck.

436
00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,000
You got some pansy feet right there, kid.

437
00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,000
You're not wearing chucks.

438
00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,000
Yeah.

439
00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,000
How many toes and fingers he got?

440
00:19:53,000 --> 00:20:00,800
It's right for four makes you fast.

441
00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:08,320
He described the creature exactly as Billy had just described it just a few hours earlier.

442
00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:14,040
Tiny baby body, long arms and legs, massive head, two large glowing eyes.

443
00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,440
After a few minutes staring at each other, Johnny's like, all right, I think it's time.

444
00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,560
I think it's time I'm going to have my head out of here.

445
00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,680
They just stared at each other for a little bit.

446
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,640
Yeah, just, you know, longingly into each other's eyes.

447
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:27,640
Taking it all in.

448
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:34,960
See, what I imagined is that like so the creature's arms crossed leaning against the tree, one

449
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,400
foot on the ground, one foot against the tree, obviously really cool looking, very James

450
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:39,400
Dean.

451
00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:46,640
And I figured Johnny going up to him, doing that like thing where like he puts his hand

452
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,440
like right next to his head, they're longingly staring into each other's eyes.

453
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,280
Kiss for a bit.

454
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:53,800
You know, this is my own fan fiction.

455
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,400
Yeah, don't worry about it.

456
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:56,400
Right.

457
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,920
This is part of my novel I'm writing.

458
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:06,480
Their initials are still carved on that piece of wood.

459
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,440
On that oak, that big old oak tree of love.

460
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:11,440
Oh, yeah.

461
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,280
They were right up against that birch.

462
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,280
Just kiss him.

463
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:16,280
Yeah.

464
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,160
No, no, no tomfoolery happen.

465
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,680
He's like, I'm going to go and just books it out of there.

466
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:28,600
He gets out of the woods and he gets to the road where a couple passing by in their car

467
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:34,280
notice him and they see how shook up he is and decide to give him a ride home.

468
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,520
And what is going on?

469
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:37,520
All right.

470
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,680
I understand there's a whole like demon going on, but also this 15 year old is out past

471
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,200
midnight just roaming the streets of Massachusetts.

472
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,760
And then he goes into the woods to find a monster, comes out and then a random stranger

473
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:54,280
couple just picks him up in their car and bring him home.

474
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,280
What time was it?

475
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:56,280
Like, what is going on here?

476
00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:01,760
I feel like if you did that today, like Amber alert immediately, like there'd be no, you

477
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:02,760
know what I'm saying?

478
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:08,720
It was they, they don't make them like they used to Dave.

479
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:09,720
They sure don't.

480
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,560
Do you mean societies or do you mean like weight?

481
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,280
Just in everything.

482
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,280
That's fair.

483
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:17,280
All right.

484
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:22,160
So the couple brought him home and then he too would sketch the figure he saw in the

485
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:23,420
woods that night.

486
00:22:23,420 --> 00:22:27,320
And I'm going to text you that photo right now.

487
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:34,520
This picture that he drew is so fucking funny to me.

488
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,680
I don't know why this is what he is.

489
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,920
What he drove himself.

490
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:44,360
He didn't like have a, you know, like you go in and you have the guy draw it for you.

491
00:22:44,360 --> 00:22:47,360
You think you want a fiver?

492
00:22:47,360 --> 00:22:52,680
Hey, listen, here's a description of what I saw.

493
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,880
He invested in his horrifying life experience.

494
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,200
Yeah, he's really holding onto that tree.

495
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,440
He's really like for dear life.

496
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,720
Yeah, it looks, but it looks like he's given to a show.

497
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,840
Like it kind of looks like he's pole dancing for him.

498
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:08,840
Right?

499
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:09,840
It's very seductive.

500
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:16,800
I mean, maybe his ass is on his head and just shakes it around a bunch.

501
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:22,840
You know, you're saying that he's clearly gotten no ass where a human ass would be.

502
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:23,840
Right?

503
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,000
I mean, I guess, but also it's a baby body.

504
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,000
Do babies have asses?

505
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,000
I mean, they do.

506
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,240
But like, I mean, like they don't have like they're not dummy thick.

507
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:36,640
I mean, maybe being dummy thick in the alien community is just having, you know, they value

508
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,200
the brain a lot.

509
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:39,200
Is that what it is?

510
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,200
Pretty dope.

511
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,200
You know, you got a lot of intelligence.

512
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,200
Damn, that's sexy to me, girl.

513
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,680
Look at how big your brain is.

514
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,120
You want to share a nest quick down by the fucking ocean?

515
00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:50,960
Are you trying to get a fucking strawberry quick, dude?

516
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,240
Fuck a couple of Roxie's, dude.

517
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,920
We'll fucking we'll party tonight, dude.

518
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,760
You got a big walk down to the child's.

519
00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:07,360
This is the most generic picture, the most generic drawing of just an alien in a tree.

520
00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:12,440
And then you try to point things out and write like a little note around it.

521
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:17,160
I like the fact that he colored it on black and had to be like silhouette.

522
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,480
Right.

523
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:26,000
For all you unartistic fucks that don't know what a silhouette is.

524
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,760
I love that it's just the silhouette.

525
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,640
My favorite is that his eyes glow faintly, just a black face.

526
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,640
There's nothing in there to indicate any sort of eyes.

527
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,160
He's not great at drawing eyes.

528
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,840
No, Johnny, if you listen to this, take a class, dude.

529
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,240
I'm sure there's like an adult learning something or other.

530
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,880
There's an annex somewhere you could fucking.

531
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,880
Yeah, you're close to.

532
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,240
He's closer down.

533
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,240
He go right down to RISD.

534
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,240
Fucking take a class or two.

535
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,240
Yeah, I don't know.

536
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,120
Go into debt.

537
00:24:57,120 --> 00:24:58,120
One class.

538
00:24:58,120 --> 00:24:59,120
All right.

539
00:24:59,120 --> 00:25:01,280
You want to hear about the third encounter?

540
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:02,280
I do.

541
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,600
OK, so the third and final sighting of the Dover Demon happened the next night around

542
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:13,000
the same time as Billy Baxter sighting the night before when Abby Robin, Robin, Rob,

543
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:21,200
Robin, Robin, I don't know, who was also 50 at the time, was driving home from a party

544
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,640
with her boyfriend when she noticed something off to the side of the road down in the pocket

545
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:26,640
brush.

546
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,440
Dude, she described what she saw as it was.

547
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,720
He says, oh, it's always in the pocket brush, dude.

548
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:38,760
But she described what she saw as a creature that was on all fours, like an almost like

549
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,280
a monkey with a big head and long arms.

550
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,160
She let out a scream, which caused her boyfriend to stop the car.

551
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,080
And when he did, he looked in the rear view mirror and standing in the red glow of the

552
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,920
brake lights stood what Colby?

553
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,240
Dover Demon.

554
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,960
There it is.

555
00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:00,240
Now the Dover Demon hasn't been seen since after these instances.

556
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:04,160
But like all cryptic sightings left a lasting impression on the small community where it

557
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,440
happened as well as the world.

558
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:11,280
The Dover Demon has been the subject of many documentaries, books, comics and more.

559
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,480
We may never know what the Dover Demon was or where it came from, which in my opinion

560
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:20,000
means could still be out there waiting to show itself once again.

561
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:24,520
Colby, what do you think of the Dover Demon?

562
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:32,880
I think I think the Dover Demon, I mean, judging by Billy's artistic endeavor here, it just

563
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,200
seems like a gray to me.

564
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:40,080
It seems like it was probably like a regular alien creature.

565
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,360
It's just a little lost looking for some directions.

566
00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:47,460
So there was a theory that it was just a regular old alien.

567
00:26:47,460 --> 00:26:51,880
But the thing is, there was no craft, no UFOs sighted in the skies.

568
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:59,320
And according to some report somewhere, the sightings all occurred in a straight line.

569
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:05,320
And it also all happened near bodies of water, which may indicate that whatever it was, it

570
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,000
was either migrating because it was just passing through the town, didn't cause any disruptions

571
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:16,080
besides people seeing it, or it is an aquatic being, which I don't believe because that's

572
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,080
to me, that's just gross.

573
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,680
I just don't like that idea.

574
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,800
Just not a fan.

575
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:27,920
Not a fan of that idea.

576
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,800
But there are some prevailing theories of what it might be.

577
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:36,300
Again, the gray is what people assume it might be.

578
00:27:36,300 --> 00:27:39,560
But also some people are trying to say that it was just a baby moose.

579
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,520
I don't know about that.

580
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:44,520
Oh, you don't?

581
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,320
None of these artists depictions to you seem like it would be a baby moose?

582
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:59,360
Because apparently baby moose, according to whatever the fuck, it's got long spindly whatevers.

583
00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:01,920
But I mean, it would have hair.

584
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:02,920
It wouldn't.

585
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,360
It's a little bit of hair.

586
00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:09,640
Yeah, but also apparently Dover, Massachusetts isn't anywhere near where like a lot of moose

587
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:10,640
would be populating.

588
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:11,640
Right.

589
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:12,640
Yeah.

590
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,640
So I don't know, but apparently baby moose.

591
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:16,640
They're up north.

592
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,640
Oh yeah, they're way up north, dude.

593
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,120
Get out here with baby moose.

594
00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:22,840
Not a damn baby moose.

595
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,320
It can't be a baby moose.

596
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,080
It's a fucking baby whale kid.

597
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,640
Remember that video?

598
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:29,640
I do.

599
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,120
The guy saw the sun.

600
00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:35,800
We were just talking about the, uh, he took my fucking pinky.

601
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:36,800
Video.

602
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,600
I don't know that.

603
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:40,600
I didn't either.

604
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:41,600
So he was talking.

605
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:42,600
I figured you would know.

606
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:43,600
I have no idea.

607
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:48,760
Those things you see on rotten.com is like trying to get like a shark or something.

608
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,680
Fucking took my pinky.

609
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,240
Oh God.

610
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,240
Yeah.

611
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,280
Massachusetts is wild, dude.

612
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,280
Massachusetts.

613
00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,280
Yeah.

614
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:00,840
There's a lot of strange things happening in Massachusetts.

615
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,480
I want to have you back on eventually.

616
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,080
Cause there's a few things in Dover, New Hampshire that I want to talk to you about and also

617
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,880
upstate New Hampshire.

618
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:19,520
Is that the actual origins of the Ninja turtles is they were actually, I gotta know.

619
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:27,040
Wait, I'm, are you trying to say the Dover demon is the inspiration for the turtles?

620
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,220
No, no, no, no.

621
00:29:29,220 --> 00:29:35,320
If there is a story about, uh, uh, monsters in Dover, New Hampshire, no, the Dover, New

622
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:40,080
Hampshire things that I was talking about creator of the teenage mutant turtle city.

623
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,080
Okay.

624
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,080
Okay.

625
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,080
I will tell you ghosts.

626
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,080
Ghosts.

627
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,080
Ghosts.

628
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,360
Talk to you about ghosts, buddy.

629
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:47,360
All right.

630
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:52,160
So Colby, again, I want to just to wrap it up.

631
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,160
Your impressions.

632
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,280
What do you think of the Dover demon?

633
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:56,760
Interesting story.

634
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,760
Um, interpretable.

635
00:29:58,760 --> 00:29:59,760
Yes.

636
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:08,160
Um, could have been, probably not baby moose silhouette, bad drawing.

637
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,160
It could have been a silhouette.

638
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:16,440
I'm not being a bob, it's just a silhouette.

639
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:22,440
What too many Nesquicks and Sam's and he wound up having an extraterrestrial sighting.

640
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:23,440
Yeah, dude.

641
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:24,440
I was fucking out the body.

642
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,640
And I was doing Ken Casey's Ken Casey's is like an Irish car bomb.

643
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,000
But what it is, it's a Sam Summers.

644
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:34,720
You take a shot of Nesquik, fucking drop it in, chug it.

645
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:35,720
You hop in a boat.

646
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:43,040
Then you fucking then you hop in your fucking 77 I rock barrel one bucks, 20 bucks, 30

647
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,600
down fucking Mill Road.

648
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,080
You fucking see a creature in the pocket brush.

649
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,800
It looks just like Gollum, dude.

650
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,800
He's like Schmiegel kid.

651
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:50,800
All right.

652
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,800
I want to talk more about pocket brush.

653
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,640
I never heard about pocket brush before.

654
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:55,640
It's cool stuff.

655
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:56,640
You know about the pocket brush, dude.

656
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:57,640
All right.

657
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,200
Well, thank you so much for too much time on the roof.

658
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,720
Thank you so much for listening, everyone.

659
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:02,720
I hope you enjoyed it.

660
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:07,240
Thanks again to my guest, Colby, for helping me get these first few episodes out of the

661
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,240
way.

662
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,240
And thank you for having me.

663
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,240
Oh, yeah, no problem, bud.

664
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,240
And with that, I will see you next.

665
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:14,240
Well, not see you.

666
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:28,920
I will talk at you next week.

