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16 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,200 Head to Immortal Workshop dot com and join the Metazoo revolution. 17 00:00:49,200 --> 00:01:07,520 Your collection and your wallet will thank you. 18 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:20,600 Hello, everyone. 19 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,280 Welcome back to another episode of Cryptid Cocktail Party, a show where we have a few 20 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,480 drinks, share a few laughs, and dive into the unknown. 21 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,400 Today I'm joined by Tuesday of the band Echo Break. 22 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:36,040 You might also know him from either guesting on a live show with every other band from 23 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:37,880 Ohio or just from being himself. 24 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:38,880 Goddamnit. 25 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:39,880 How you doing, man? 26 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:40,880 Goddamnit. 27 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,240 I mean, to be fair, that is a really good description. 28 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:48,720 If there's a band in Ohio, I've probably been on stage with them like once or twice. 29 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:53,160 I figured that would have been the best way to introduce you to the audience. 30 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:54,160 But what's going on? 31 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,160 How you doing? 32 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:57,800 I'm doing pretty good. 33 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,800 Just got my drinks. 34 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:05,200 Why don't you tell the audience what you are drinking currently? 35 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,680 The worst shit imaginable other than Bush Light. 36 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,640 It's fucking hard Mountain Dew, Black Cherry. 37 00:02:13,640 --> 00:02:15,920 Oh, it's so gross, dude. 38 00:02:15,920 --> 00:02:17,520 I don't know how you could drink that. 39 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,880 Where'd you even find that? 40 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:25,640 My roommate just gave it to me because I didn't have anything to drink and I don't have a 41 00:02:25,640 --> 00:02:27,920 fucking car to go get shit. 42 00:02:27,920 --> 00:02:32,400 So I was like, I really wanted to get some drinks and they're like, hold on, bestie. 43 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:37,080 And that's I don't think that's a bestie move. 44 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:38,480 That's like the opposite of. 45 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,280 Hey, they also gave me a bigger Smirnoff Smash. 46 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:42,280 So it's like whatever. 47 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:43,280 All right. 48 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:44,280 Well, yeah, I'll take that. 49 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:45,760 I got something to wash down with. 50 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,400 You got to chase your drink with another drink. 51 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:50,400 That's how you know it's good. 52 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:51,400 All right, man. 53 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,600 Well, thank you for coming on last minute. 54 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,300 This was a kind of a fly by the seat of the pants type deal. 55 00:02:57,300 --> 00:02:59,560 So I really do appreciate you help me out with this. 56 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,600 I guess my first question for you, this is an interview, but I do have a question for 57 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:03,600 you. 58 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:04,600 What is what is your relationship with cryptids? 59 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,040 Are you a cryptid guy? 60 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,020 Like, do you fuck with cryptids or is this like going to be just mind blowing all around 61 00:03:10,020 --> 00:03:11,980 for you? 62 00:03:11,980 --> 00:03:16,680 I don't really follow cryptids other than like the few local legends that we have in 63 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:23,920 Ohio and the lead vocalist of day walker who I assume is some sort of cryptid because like 64 00:03:23,920 --> 00:03:25,180 he meets the criteria, dude. 65 00:03:25,180 --> 00:03:28,000 He's been around for about a thousand years. 66 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:33,240 Everyone has really weird and badly cropped photos of him that don't really show him correctly 67 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,040 because he's dark skin. 68 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:39,600 He's elusive and he screams like, bro. 69 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,560 Well, give me some give me some facts about him after the show and maybe I'll write an 70 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:50,800 episode 300 Greg from day walker. 71 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:55,840 Well, today I'm going to tell you the story of the Grafton monster. 72 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,920 Are you familiar at all with what this is? 73 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,600 No, not at all. 74 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,600 How familiar with the state of West Virginia? 75 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,080 I've driven through it twice. 76 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,440 I let him that nothing. 77 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:07,440 All right. 78 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:08,840 Well, why don't we just dive right in? 79 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,200 I'll tell you the story and then just feel free to jump in with anything you need to 80 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:13,200 say or whatever. 81 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:14,200 Fuck yeah. 82 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:19,600 So the small town of Grafton is located in Taylor County, West Virginia. 83 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,840 The only reason why the city came into existence is because it's a junction point for the Baltimore 84 00:04:23,840 --> 00:04:25,920 and Ohio railroads. 85 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,880 They serve like several bunches, branches that are vital to the coal industry that were 86 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:30,880 in the region at the time. 87 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,200 I'm pretty sure they probably still are. 88 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,400 I honestly have no idea. 89 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:38,720 Grafton is also home to the West Virginia National Cemetery's. 90 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,640 The West Virginia Equal Suffrage Association was formed there in nineteen eighty ninety 91 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:43,640 four. 92 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,360 It was one of the first cities to observe Memorial Day. 93 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,720 And fun fact, Mother's Day was founded there in nineteen oh eight. 94 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,840 I don't know if that's impressive, but besides that, there's not really much going on with 95 00:04:53,840 --> 00:04:54,840 the town. 96 00:04:54,840 --> 00:04:56,840 It's just like a small little like booming. 97 00:04:56,840 --> 00:04:58,640 I don't know what's the word railroad town. 98 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:03,080 I just kind of can't believe they gave Frank Zappa's other band a whole ass holiday. 99 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:13,040 But like I said, there wasn't really much going on that is until June 16th of 1964 when 100 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:17,720 a reporter for the local paper came across what would come to be known as the Grafton 101 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,400 Monster, a.k.a. the Beast of Grafton. 102 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,280 You ready to dive into the story? 103 00:05:22,280 --> 00:05:23,280 Hold up. 104 00:05:23,280 --> 00:05:25,920 I'm going to let's see some pics of this. 105 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,840 I'm going to pull it up on Google Images. 106 00:05:27,840 --> 00:05:31,400 See if anyone has any badly crop photos yet. 107 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,800 You can't because I have to give you the description of it first. 108 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:38,320 OK, I don't want you to ruin the story, but you're doing it anyways, aren't you? 109 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:39,320 I can hear you typing. 110 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:43,360 You know, I'm getting the search queued up and I'll click enter whenever it's convenient 111 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:44,360 for you. 112 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:45,360 All right. 113 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:51,520 So the story goes that on that night, Robert Cockrell, a reporter for the Grafton Sentinel 114 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:56,840 now rebranded as the Mountain Statesman, which sounds like a militia that would be formed, 115 00:05:56,840 --> 00:05:59,560 was driving home from work around 11 p.m. 116 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,680 He was driving down what is now Yates Ave, a.k.a. 117 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:08,240 Route 119, a.k.a. Riverside Drive, a road that follows along the Tigard River. 118 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,360 I don't know if I pronounced that right. 119 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:15,440 But anyways, turning a curve in the road, Cockrell was met by what he described as a 120 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:20,440 huge white obstruction standing on a patch of grass located between the road and the 121 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:21,440 river. 122 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:22,440 Not really sure what he was seeing. 123 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,100 He slowed down to get a better look. 124 00:06:24,100 --> 00:06:29,500 There he saw what he described as a seven to nine foot tall, four foot wide creature 125 00:06:29,500 --> 00:06:33,760 that was boned white, had skin like a seal. 126 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:40,220 It also had no discernible head, but somehow was also emitting a whistling sound. 127 00:06:40,220 --> 00:06:44,200 So if you want to go ahead and look up a picture of it right now, feel free to because it is 128 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,400 probably one of the most horrifying things I've ever seen. 129 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,160 This is going to be interesting. 130 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,520 Keep that description in mind while looking at these photos. 131 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:57,200 Damn, brother, new amnesia DLC is looking tight. 132 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:02,600 What did you find of a good picture of it? 133 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:03,600 There's no good pictures of it. 134 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,120 It's all going to be artist renderings or screencaps from Fallout 76. 135 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,480 Yeah, that's what I'm seeing is fallout 76. 136 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,480 But that's pretty much what it looked like. 137 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:14,480 Accurate. 138 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:15,880 It looked like that. 139 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:17,520 Just a I don't know. 140 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,760 It reminds me of do you remember Looney Tunes at all? 141 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:21,760 Yes. 142 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,040 I know that you think I'm that young. 143 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:28,120 No, but you know that furry red alien that's always with Marvin the Martian, like the big 144 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:29,120 thing. 145 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:30,120 It looks like that. 146 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:31,920 Well, like no, no fur. 147 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,440 It's just skin. 148 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:37,600 Some of the other renderings I'm seeing kind of look like the yellow devil from Mega Man. 149 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,000 And I really don't know how to feel about that with trauma I've sustained from Mega 150 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,160 Man on the NES. 151 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,440 It does kind of look like that, doesn't it? 152 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:46,480 Yeah. 153 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:47,480 But it's pretty nightmarish. 154 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,400 Imagine like turning the corner of like a winding road and just seeing that. 155 00:07:51,400 --> 00:08:02,560 I like this picture of it because it implies that it ties our nipples. 156 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:03,560 That's very accurate. 157 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:04,560 Oh, my God. 158 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:05,560 All right. 159 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,360 Well, clearly freaked the fuck out. 160 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,280 Cockerel took off out of the out of their fast as he could. 161 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:15,040 Once home, he called up his friends, Jerry Morris and Jim. 162 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:19,120 I don't know how to pronounce Jim Mouser to go back with him to the spot where he had 163 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:20,120 seen the creature. 164 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,040 But when they returned, the monster was nowhere to be seen. 165 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:29,600 No tracks, no nothing except this faint whistling sound that seemed to follow them as they investigated 166 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,600 and some trampled grass where the creature was standing. 167 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:41,080 The next day, Krokel Cockerel Cockerel went to work at the Sentinel like any other day, 168 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,920 but decided not to say anything about his encounter because it's fucking crazy. 169 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,680 And I feel like in 1964, if you walk into your place of business claiming you saw a 170 00:08:48,680 --> 00:08:54,480 no headed nine foot tall seal skin monster, you'd probably be immediately fired and ridiculed. 171 00:08:54,480 --> 00:09:01,480 They'll be like, yeah, we got something for that pulls out the ice pick is given the lobotomy 172 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,760 right then and there like, no, no, no, it's fine. 173 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,120 You'll be calmer after this. 174 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:06,120 It's fine. 175 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:07,120 Trust me, Jack. 176 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:08,120 It's a swift procedure. 177 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:09,120 Is that is that 64? 178 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:16,840 Is that more like I think that's like 1920s like like flapper era. 179 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,480 It's all depends on where you are in the U.S. 180 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:19,480 That's fair enough. 181 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,680 Like I said, people still speak like that. 182 00:09:22,680 --> 00:09:25,760 They do in Maine. 183 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:30,600 But that is until he decides to keep quiet until he heard other people having a similar 184 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:31,600 encounter. 185 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,600 I guess he received more than 20 calls from people who claim to have also seen some like 186 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,400 headless bone white blob. 187 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,800 Now how they knew to call him, I don't know. 188 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:44,880 One source I read said that even though he wanted to be quiet, just like I'm sure you 189 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:49,000 have friends that would do the same way as I would, his buddies like loved the idea of 190 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,520 a monster on the loose. 191 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,160 So they went around town and pretty much told anyone who would listen to them that there 192 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,320 was a monster around town. 193 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,960 This led to people, mostly teenagers armed with baseball bats and literally any weapon 194 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,180 that was closest to them. 195 00:10:03,180 --> 00:10:05,920 They formed monster hunting parties. 196 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:11,000 Now this roving pack of armed teenagers could be found up and down Riverside Drive, not 197 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,080 far from where Cockrell had his sighting. 198 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:18,680 Now I honestly thought that when researching this, that like a pack of like armed teenagers 199 00:10:18,680 --> 00:10:22,760 roaming the streets would have easily have led to a lot of problems. 200 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,040 Like in the case of the Enfield monster, I don't know if you heard that episode, but 201 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,680 people just started open firing into bushes and shit like that. 202 00:10:29,680 --> 00:10:31,840 But as far as I can tell, that didn't happen. 203 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:36,960 But basically his encounter led to basically like the warrior situation. 204 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:42,680 Just like teens walking down the streets with like baseball bats and found like, I don't 205 00:10:42,680 --> 00:10:45,440 know, just found items. 206 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:46,640 It's wild. 207 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,080 If you want to check your phone, you'll know exactly what I've been thinking this entire 208 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:51,840 time you're explaining that. 209 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,280 Fucking Earthbound. 210 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,240 That is kind of what, but that without the head is got to be. 211 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,680 Yeah, that is a hundred percent the monster. 212 00:10:58,680 --> 00:10:59,680 Yes, I agree. 213 00:10:59,680 --> 00:11:00,680 A hundred. 214 00:11:00,680 --> 00:11:05,240 You just described the entire opening of Earthbound up to the star mad. 215 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:09,840 Well, I mean, maybe that's where they got the idea from. 216 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:10,840 Possible actually. 217 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,840 It is. 218 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:19,320 Now, like I said, these this roving group of teens, they didn't nothing happened with 219 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:20,320 them. 220 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:25,000 What did happen, though, was Cockrell was inspired by the teens and the new sightings 221 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,000 that he received. 222 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:31,440 He decided to write an article for the Grafton Sentinel, interviewing some of the teens and 223 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,160 sourcing some of the calls that he received. 224 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:38,120 He published his article titled, quote, Teenage Monster Hunting Party's latest activity in 225 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:42,040 Grafton scene on June 18th, 1964. 226 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:46,600 Some of the sightings in the article are wild, but this one right here is probably my favorite. 227 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,240 It's a bit long, but trust me, it's worth it. 228 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,040 So this is this is anonymous. 229 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:56,280 I don't know who sent this in, but it reads, I have seen the creature called the Grafton 230 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,600 monster several times when I was a young man. 231 00:11:58,600 --> 00:11:59,760 It is very real. 232 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,680 My first encounter, I was with my father cutting wood. 233 00:12:02,680 --> 00:12:06,640 He had finished and were loading the truck when our two dogs started barking. 234 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,720 He stood there and listened. 235 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,280 Something was walking, getting closer. 236 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,520 My dad told me to get the gun from the cab. 237 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:17,020 He carried a double barreled 10 gauge with zero double zero buckshot. 238 00:12:17,020 --> 00:12:19,880 Whatever it was, it picked up its pace and continued towards us. 239 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:25,340 All we knew for sure was it was big and wasn't scared of us, the dogs or the chainsaw. 240 00:12:25,340 --> 00:12:30,280 It stopped at 50 to 55 yards from us in the trees and went quiet. 241 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:34,560 My dad pulled both hammers back and stood in front of me, told me to be ready. 242 00:12:34,560 --> 00:12:35,560 The next thing that happened. 243 00:12:35,560 --> 00:12:36,560 I'll never forget. 244 00:12:36,560 --> 00:12:40,680 He stepped out, looked at us, took three strides in our direction, turned and walked back into 245 00:12:40,680 --> 00:12:41,680 the tree line. 246 00:12:41,680 --> 00:12:44,560 That was my first sighting of the beast and I'll never forget it. 247 00:12:44,560 --> 00:12:47,920 My second encounter was two months later at night fishing alone. 248 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:49,640 I spotted him on the opposite bank. 249 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,040 I got the hell out of the area. 250 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,720 Hands down, one of my favorite stories of this, this Grafton monster. 251 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,520 Just I love that every story that we tell on this, someone has a gun and they're ready 252 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:00,840 to shoot whatever it is. 253 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,120 And he just dips like a pussy. 254 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:08,760 Dude, if you're nine feet tall and four feet wide, I don't like what the like I don't think 255 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,480 a shotgun blast is really going to slow you down. 256 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,600 But maybe seal skin might not be that thick. 257 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,240 So I don't know unless it's like shark skin. 258 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:16,680 I don't know if sharks can seal soon. 259 00:13:16,680 --> 00:13:17,680 It's the same thing. 260 00:13:17,680 --> 00:13:18,680 I don't know. 261 00:13:18,680 --> 00:13:21,440 I don't care how tall am I'm still afraid of a shotgun. 262 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,440 Yeah, I'd be more afraid of the chainsaw, though. 263 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,760 I feel like if you're like a fucking cryptid, I don't think I don't know. 264 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,920 I feel like people shoot shit with shotguns all the time in these stories and then nothing 265 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,320 ever happens to them. 266 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:37,280 True, but like chainsaws are more of a sensory overload than they are like a truly threatening 267 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:38,280 weapon. 268 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:39,280 Until they fucking hit you. 269 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,480 Yeah, but it's way easier for a shotgun to hit you than a chainsaw. 270 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,040 That's not true from like 50 yards away. 271 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,040 You're really going to use that. 272 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:46,040 I guess buckshot. 273 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,040 It just kind of spreads. 274 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,280 But I feel like a feel like a shotgun is very close range weapon like he'd have to get real 275 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:54,400 close before you can do some serious damage with a shotgun. 276 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,400 Fair same with a chainsaw. 277 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:01,240 That's fair. 278 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:07,040 Are you just long ranging your chainsaw? 279 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,040 Do you have it on a string? 280 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,880 No, dude, it's one of those fucking those like lumberjack chainsaws. 281 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,560 It's like nine feet long. 282 00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:13,880 You know the ones I'm talking about. 283 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,080 Oh my God. 284 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:22,720 No, obviously the authorities couldn't just have like a bunch of regular dudes, now amateur 285 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,040 monster hunters walking around in the woods with like bats and guns. 286 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,960 So they decided there was to open their own official investigation. 287 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:35,160 So on June 19th, the same paper re released released another article claiming that the 288 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:40,000 town that the entire town was suffering from quote spring fever, dismissing the monster 289 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:44,500 altogether saying that the board locals were just imagining a creature, which according 290 00:14:44,500 --> 00:14:50,400 to them was just some dude pushing a cart piled up, pushing a handcart piled high with 291 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:55,400 boxes and at the low lighting caused them to take on a weird shape and have people mistake 292 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:59,640 him for a nine foot tall creature. 293 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:00,640 Interesting. 294 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,840 It's my that's my favorite explanation for a cryptologist. 295 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:03,840 She's a dude, dude. 296 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,640 And he's just pushing boxes. 297 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,440 What do you guys have against Steve? 298 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:08,840 Come on, bro. 299 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:09,840 It's just Steven. 300 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:15,200 Is she, dude, but who's fucking pushing carts full of boxes at 11 o'clock at night down 301 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:16,200 a road? 302 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:17,200 You know what I mean? 303 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:18,200 Obviously crackhead Steve. 304 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:19,200 True. 305 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:23,360 He was going around collecting cans and just got really enamored with these boxes. 306 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:24,360 Bro. 307 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:25,360 This is West Virginia. 308 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:26,360 True. 309 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:30,080 It's West Virginia, but 1964 crack wasn't invented yet. 310 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,480 So it's probably math or moonshine. 311 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,040 They both fuck with your brain. 312 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:35,040 Moonshine moonshine. 313 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:36,040 All right. 314 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:37,040 We'll go. 315 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:38,040 We'll go with moonshine. 316 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:39,040 Steve. 317 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,920 That's what he's probably coming down from his distillery and all those were filled with 318 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:42,920 jugs of moonshine. 319 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:43,920 God damn. 320 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,920 I think we cracked the case, dude. 321 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:46,920 Yeah, bro. 322 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:48,400 It wasn't a cryptid. 323 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:49,400 It's just moonshine. 324 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:50,400 Steve moonshine. 325 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:51,400 Steve, man. 326 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:55,760 No, obviously that's a fucking stupid explanation for what people saw. 327 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,080 But there are other explanations that I think are much better. 328 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:03,420 Gray Barker, one of the people responsible for putting Mothman on the map, thinks that 329 00:16:03,420 --> 00:16:09,400 maybe the grafted monster was an alien lab animal put here by extraterrestrials to test 330 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,480 the livability of planet Earth and that the whistling sound you were hearing was actually 331 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,840 coming from his spaceship. 332 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,240 Others suggest it's an interdimensional being. 333 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:25,140 But my favorite explanation comes from one of the teenagers who was monster hunting. 334 00:16:25,140 --> 00:16:29,760 And he thinks that it's just a regular old run of the mill boilerplate escaped polar 335 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:30,760 bear. 336 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,400 But I don't know where. 337 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,400 I don't know where. 338 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,760 Like no one like the case explanation is like, but where would it come from? 339 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:39,760 It's not lost. 340 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,600 Like, there's no just polar bears running around West Virginia as far as I know. 341 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:44,920 Definitely not natural habitat. 342 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:45,920 No, bro. 343 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,240 A polar bear would thrive in West Virginia. 344 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:49,440 You think so? 345 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:50,440 Those motherfuckers are big. 346 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,080 Those are bigger than regular bears. 347 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:53,080 Yeah, but it wouldn't. 348 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:59,720 Well, at least the ones we have out here in the Midwest. 349 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:04,520 I'm not going to say anything about like the bears that I have seen in New Hampshire because 350 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,000 no, the fuckers big. 351 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:12,720 But the polar bears in the Midwest are nothing to be fucked with. 352 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,360 No, the regular ass bears. 353 00:17:14,360 --> 00:17:15,360 My bad. 354 00:17:15,360 --> 00:17:18,720 Yeah, but he says this is an escape polar bear, not a regular ass bear. 355 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:19,720 It would not thrive. 356 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,680 I was saying it would thrive in West Virginia because it would be bigger than competition. 357 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:23,680 That is true. 358 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:24,680 That is true. 359 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,640 It would die very quickly, though, because there's no seals or anything. 360 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:29,640 I don't know what. 361 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,480 No, dude, it would start killing anything. 362 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:33,920 You think so? 363 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:35,360 Yeah, I don't know. 364 00:17:35,360 --> 00:17:36,360 I don't know. 365 00:17:36,360 --> 00:17:37,600 I don't know how polar bears work. 366 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:38,920 I don't know if they have to be cold. 367 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:40,520 Like, do they have to be cold? 368 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:45,320 No, I think they're just like a bear that evolved to sustain cold. 369 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:46,800 So it's got an extra thick coat. 370 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,960 And wouldn't the heat like kill it because it has that extra thick coat? 371 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:55,280 Like, it wouldn't be able to like bears that exist in the heat also have extra thick coat. 372 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,720 And usually it is to block off sunlight. 373 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,520 All right. 374 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,280 That's fair enough. 375 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:04,960 But yeah, that just works. 376 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:10,840 But yeah, we probably won't ever really know what Robert Cockerill and the others saw by 377 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,240 the Tigard River in 1964. 378 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:17,800 But it's clearly left an impact on Grafton with the Grafton monster being featured in 379 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:23,240 games like Fallout 76 and Metazoo and the subject of countless television episodes, 380 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,000 books and documentaries. 381 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,440 But yeah, that's the story of the Grafton monster. 382 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,280 What did you think, man? 383 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:34,560 Definitely very reminiscent of Earthbound. 384 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:35,560 That's your takeaway from it. 385 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:36,560 What did you think? 386 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,080 That's what like do you think like it's something that would have existed or do you think it's 387 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:44,520 just like they saw fucking moonshine Steve bringing down his jugs? 388 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:50,360 Honestly, in the most plausible argument sounds like the escape polar bear. 389 00:18:50,360 --> 00:18:51,360 But where would it have escaped? 390 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:54,880 I don't think there was just like a like, like, you know, when they when they when he 391 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,240 suggested that, I think they were like, well, there's no like zoos around here, like unless 392 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:03,200 someone was buying exotic pets back then and just one of them got loose. 393 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,920 Rich people on the exotic pets is nothing new. 394 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,920 And then getting loose is also nothing. 395 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:08,920 Yep. 396 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,640 That is very fair. 397 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,960 You'd some rich dickhead just lose his polar bears like, yeah, then that's the thing about 398 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:17,960 this. 399 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:18,960 But do you come forward at that point? 400 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,400 Like you're like, it's my polar bear or you're like, fuck, dude, they all think it's a lot 401 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:26,400 like you skip town, you change your name. 402 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:27,400 So some roller. 403 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:32,640 So some railroad tycoon had a polar bear just locked up in his yard and then it escaped. 404 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,720 He's like, I don't know what happened here. 405 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,680 Must have been a monster. 406 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:37,680 What do you mean? 407 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:38,680 Look, Green wasn't enough to feed him. 408 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,880 You're telling me he doesn't survive solely on Coca-Cola's. 409 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:43,880 I've seen the commercials. 410 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:44,880 All right, man. 411 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:49,360 Well, I appreciate you coming on. 412 00:19:49,360 --> 00:19:50,360 Help me out with this episode. 413 00:19:50,360 --> 00:19:52,760 Do you have anything you want to plug? 414 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:53,760 Anything you got coming up? 415 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:54,760 I know you got a show coming up soon. 416 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,520 If you want to plug it. 417 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,400 I actually have a shovel, a couple of shows coming up. 418 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:08,480 One, my last show with day Walker is going to be the second stage of chaos and carnage. 419 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:17,400 Fuck yeah, opening up for suicide silence, dying, beat is born of Osiris, Sugar Booger 420 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,560 bong or whatever that band's called from Ohio. 421 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:24,000 All I know is that born of Osiris was going off on their Facebook page the other day about 422 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,000 them. 423 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,760 It was the most funny thing I've ever seen in my entire life. 424 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,240 I love San Sioux, Singapore so much. 425 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,520 I'm really pumped to see them. 426 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,640 And then Echo Breaks first two shows out of hate. 427 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:40,480 The first two shows are coming up May 27th and May 30th. 428 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:41,480 Hell yeah, man. 429 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:46,000 Well, I don't live near you so I can't go, but I wish you all the all the best. 430 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,120 And yeah, thanks again for coming on. 431 00:20:48,120 --> 00:20:50,960 And with that, do I got to plug anything? 432 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:51,960 Oh, yeah. 433 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,960 Follow me on Instagram at cryptic cocktail party. 434 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,840 You can follow me on Twitter to at the same handle, but I rarely ever use it because Twitter 435 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:58,840 is a fucking nightmare. 436 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,560 We also have a co-fi. 437 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:05,440 If you want to support the show, throw a couple bones. 438 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,720 It's co-fi slash cryptic cocktail party. 439 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,720 But besides that, I don't think I got anything. 440 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,400 So with that, I guess we'll sign off. 441 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:36,360 You want to say goodbye to everyone later?