1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,000 Find other great podcasts like this one at podmoth.network. 2 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,000 Find the Mustachioed Podcastio anywhere you listen to podcasts. 3 00:00:33,000 --> 00:01:01,000 That is M-O-U-S-T-A-S-H-E-O-D Podcastio. 4 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:08,000 Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of Cryptid Cocktail Party, a show where we have a few drinks, share a few laughs, take a dive into the unknown. 5 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:14,000 And today I'm joined by a longtime listener, first time guest, Kevin Valerie. What's going on, bud? 6 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,000 What's going on, Dave? Thanks for having me. 7 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:21,000 Yeah, I know you've been wanting to be a guest on for a minute now. 8 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,000 I'm very interested in the subject matter. 9 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,000 Are you though? 10 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:35,000 I don't really know anything. I didn't even know what the word cryptid meant. But, you know, we have a couple, I have a couple of people that I know are big fans of Sasquatch. 11 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,000 Yeah. 12 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,000 So it's been in the front of my mind lately. 13 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,000 Well. 14 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,000 And I'm always a big alien guy, so. 15 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,000 Well, lucky for you, I did choose an alien for you today. 16 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,000 Ooh, that's exciting. 17 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:54,000 It's fucking weird. And I don't know if anyone's ever seen it before or after. And I think this is a perfect one for you because I know you wanted weird, right? 18 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,000 You didn't want just like a run in the mill. 19 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,000 I do. 20 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,000 Like nothing. 21 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,000 I do like to dabble, dabble in the weird. 22 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:06,000 All right. Well, before we start, I just want to say thank you so much for coming on. You're looking good, for you're feeling good. You got a pedicure this morning, so. 23 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,000 I did. I'm all sparkly. Feel good. My calves are refreshed. 24 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,000 Wait, do they do calves during pedicures? 25 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,000 They do a little massage. They get a little calf massage. They get in between your toes. 26 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:20,000 I see. I see. I thought it was just a foot thing. I didn't realize it was just like a knee down thing. 27 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,000 It's a little bit of a pampering. 28 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,000 Wow. Well, sometimes it's good. You got to like release the stress. 29 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:31,000 Well, I had, like I said, I had a male, which was the first time. So he had strong hands. 30 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:38,000 And my wife was complaining that her patron or whatever the lady was spaghetti hands. 31 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,000 Oh, so you got. 32 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,000 I feel like I made out on that deal. 33 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,000 You were too rough with and she wasn't rough enough with. 34 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,000 All right. It was a little painful though. 35 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,000 The most painful pedicure I've ever had. For sure. 36 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:54,000 I mean, my wife did it. We did our first couples deep tissue massage like sometime during the winter. 37 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:59,000 And it was our first time doing it. And they're like, how much pressure do you want? 38 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:04,000 I was just like, I don't know, normal amount. I should have said, like, just put your fucking elbows into it. 39 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,000 Max. It's always max pressure. 40 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:11,000 It was nothing. And I didn't feel I felt almost more tense after then. 41 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,000 Like you missed an opportunity. 42 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:18,000 Yeah. I think I was disappointed in myself and that stress release released back into my muscles. 43 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:23,000 Suck it. No. Yeah. I was asked for just like Indian food. Max hot. 44 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:27,000 Oh, yeah. The hottest you got massage. Give me his most most pressure. 45 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:33,000 All right, Kev. Well, now that you're you're relaxed, you're the pressures off your relax as it gets, I guess. 46 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:37,000 Yeah, let's do it. Are you ready for this? I am ready. 47 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:43,000 All right. So the creature we're going to be talking about today is called the crazy critter of Bald Mountain. 48 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,000 Are you familiar at all? I'm going to assume no. 49 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:50,000 But no, not not not even close. OK. 50 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:57,000 Well, Bald Mountain is located in the southwestern corner of Washington state and is just one of 15 different peaks 51 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:05,000 within that mountain range that are also named Bald Mountain, ranging in elevation from fifteen hundred feet all the way up to eight eight thousand feet. 52 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:11,000 So it's not confusing at all. There's just a 15 different bald mountains all in this Washington state. 53 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:17,000 Yeah. OK. OK. So Bald Mountain, the bald mountain that we're going to be talking about, 54 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:23,000 sits somewhere in the middle of the height range of about six thousand feet. At least I think I can't find. 55 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,000 I can't find like a county or a town that the mountain is in. 56 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:35,000 So I'm just going off what other people have talked about, which is the problem with naming all 15 peaks Bald Mountain, like trying to find any sort of like 57 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:44,000 geographical one, bald to. Yeah. Like just get your shit together, Washington. Like I'm trying to write an episode and I can't fill it with fun, interesting facts about the town. 58 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:49,000 If there's no way to tell which one it is almost like Pluto being a planet planetoid. 59 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,000 How many how many mountains are there? How many peaks would be talking about? Yeah. 60 00:04:53,000 --> 00:05:01,000 No idea. But anyways, the crazy critter story begins on the night of November 14th, 1974, 61 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:10,000 when a fiery object was seen streaking across the night sky, eventually crashing to the ground roughly five miles away from Bald Mountain, which Bald Mountain, I don't know. 62 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:15,000 You don't know. I was about to say, where are we in Washington state right now? OK. 63 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:20,000 The the object is witnessed by several locals who reported the incident to local authorities. 64 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,000 And I just want to say that I would have hated to be like the police dispatch person that night. 65 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:32,000 They're like, nine one one, what's your emergency? Yeah. Hi. A giant fireball just like crashed up by Bald Mountain. Sir, you're going to have to be more specific. 66 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:37,000 Which Bald Mountain are you talking about? Where, sir? What? What fireball? 67 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:44,000 How how many? So I have the picture of my head, though. It looks glorious. Right. 68 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:51,000 I've always wanted to see like, you know, like you see those like Russian dash cams, like meteors falling and they like I want to see one of those. 69 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:56,000 Well, I feel like it's for some reason I feel like it's the Bothar for fire in the sky, but I'm not sure. 70 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:03,000 Like the picture of my head. I don't know. I've never seen a shooting star in my really in my entire life. Oh, my gosh. 71 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:07,000 Even growing up in New Hampshire, like with like there's like no light pollution. 72 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:17,000 Never once. Yeah. Oh, Colorado. There's a lot. But one time I went outside and looked up and I thought I was looking at a bunch of stars and slowly realized they're all planes. 73 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:26,000 What? They're all planes. They're all planes, all shooting. Even in those like, you know, remote countries, like I said, the light pollution is out there. 74 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:33,000 You think you have this gray star field and still the majority of our planes. That can't be right. It's disappointing. 75 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:38,000 That can't be right. I've seen it with my own eyes. It was disappointing. That doesn't make any sense, Kevin, at all. 76 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:44,000 You're saying all like most of the stars in the sky are planes. Way, way more stars than you think are planes. 77 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:50,000 When you add that total view, because the view just gives you the view. Doesn't give you there's not over stars. 78 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:57,000 You just see what's up there. And there are a ton of planes up there. Well, I'm sure there's a shit ton of planes, but you can't say most of them are planes. 79 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:04,000 There's clearly. Obviously, but viewable stars for viewable planes. Way more viewable planes and stars. That's fair. 80 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:12,000 In my opinion, I'll give you that. All right. So the locals all got to see like a sick light show in the night sky, but nothing really came of it. 81 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,000 They probably just assumed it was like a meteor or something. 82 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:24,000 But it wasn't until three days later that a few local residents would figure out that it may have been something significantly more than just like a rogue shooting star. 83 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:35,000 So on November 17th, like I said, just three days after the fiery object crashed down to Earth, local grocer Ernest Smith was out of the grocer. 84 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:46,000 It was back in the day when you could support your family on a grocer's wage. Right. Go ahead. Sorry. Wow. Ernest Smith is a deer hunting near Bald Mountain, quietly stalking through the woods, 85 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:53,000 decked out in camo and covered in deer piss. I assume. I think that's a hunting thing. I remember my uncle's to get bottles of deer piss to like. 86 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:58,000 I know you're in is involved for sure. That's all I know. I know there's a P involved in hunting, which is fucking wild. 87 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:10,000 But either way, Ernest was hoping to bag a nice 10 point buck, mount that shit on your wall type trophy thing, something that you like you could like brag to your friends about and like a Walmart parking lot while it's still in the bed of your truck. 88 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:18,000 That kind of deer is over that 10 pointer. Yeah. But what he would stumble across was decidedly not that. 89 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:29,000 In fact, what he saw was a creature so fucking weird that there's literally no parallel or comparison to it in all of like cryptozoology, paranormal or alien. 90 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:39,000 I hate the jackpot right now. I thought it was some Pocono stuff. This is good. As far as I'm aware, there's no other thing that has ever been described that looks like this thing. 91 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:43,000 I don't know if you're ready for this. Are you ready for this? I'm very excited to do it. 92 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:57,000 All right. So what he saw his description goes, quote, it was horse sized, covered in scales and standing on four rubbery legs that had suckers on it like that of an octopus, octopus's tentacles. 93 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:03,000 Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Its head was football shaped with an antenna sticking up. 94 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:15,000 And not only was it a nightmare, like a nightmare chimera, but that it was also bioluminescent that, quote, the thing gave off this green iridescent light, end quote. 95 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:23,000 It had to be bioluminescent. It just had to be. So where are we right now? How are you feeling? 96 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:36,000 I'm feeling like this is this is similar to like AJ when he was on here. I feel like I got to want to draw this thing. Oh, so I was amazed. I'll send you a picture like an artist depiction of it after we finished. 97 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:44,000 Oh, what was it? Oh, man. So I feel like I just need to bullet point the description. Yeah. So it's because that was wild. 98 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:57,000 Horse sized, covered in scales, standing on four rubbery legs with suckers like an octopus tentacles. Yeah. Yeah. Football shaped head with an antenna and it's growing green, glowing green. 99 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:09,000 So I feel like the scales have to be like iridescent. Yeah. I'm getting a shimmery type of mystical. Oh, so you think it's like light reflecting off the scales. 100 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:22,000 I fly. He may have some sort of bioluminescence, but I mean, the scales themselves have to be iridescent or maybe translucent or something. This seems crazy. See, in my head, I was thinking, well, it is it. We'll get there. We'll get there. 101 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:35,000 Doesn't get us. So he doesn't share whether the creature even noticed him or what it or his reactions like were to each other. I'm going to assume his reaction was somewhere in the ballpark of, oh, shit, oh, fuck, oh, shit, oh, fuck, oh, shit, oh, fuck. 102 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:49,000 Like a horse, a horse size. Yeah, which it was just a proper human response, I would think, to seeing it would do so much damage with tentacle arms and wow. Well, as far as I know, it didn't attack him. 103 00:10:49,000 --> 00:11:12,000 Yeah, horse size. That's fucking massive. I honestly think together how big it was until you just said horse sized again. Horses are fucking massive. And there's so many different horse and the horse can be really big. Like a Clydesdale. Yeah. Like you were looking at maybe its butthole. If you're lucky. Yeah. If you're lucky, you're looking at its butthole. 104 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:27,000 If you're lucky, it depends on what side of the tracks. If that consider that lucky or not, you're looking at a bottle Clydesdale. But putting that on a T-shirt. If you're lucky, you're looking at its bottle. Now, there should be a few of those to focus. 105 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:47,000 Now, if this thing had only been seen by the grocer, his story, like the description he gave and just overall vibe. That is a grocer. Yeah. He would have been seen as like this would have been seen as like the rantings and ravings of a lunatic. But lucky for him, he wasn't the only one who got a sight of what I will now be dubbing horseyla. 106 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:56,000 That's a combination of horse and Ursula from The Little Mermaid. I think that's what I'm going to be calling it from now on. That's tough. Horsyla? That's tough. Horsyla is tough. 107 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:13,000 It's easier than the crazy critter of Bald Mountain. That's an aggressive name. This does not seem critter ish to me. Critters are small. Critters are a little thing that meanders about and you could like throw a rock at it as people love to do. You throw a rock at it. 108 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:27,000 This thing is not a critter like a chipmunk. So maybe closer to horse than crazy critter, I guess. Now, a Tacoma couple, Roger and wife's name redacted Ramsba. I don't know the wife's name. 109 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:43,000 They were driving along State Route 7 through the Bald Mountain Range shortly after dusk. The evening air was filled with fog and as they were driving, they noticed a faint glow off the side of the road and assumed it was a quote neon sign in the fog just on a mountain highway. 110 00:12:43,000 --> 00:13:08,000 That's what it would be clearly because that's what you need in the middle of nowhere is a power source. Out of what I assume was a mixture of curiosity and confusion, they slowed down to get a better look. It was then that they realized what they were actually seeing was not a neon sign off the side of the road in the mountains because obviously, but was indeed the same glowing horse tentacle monster that Ernest had seen not long before that. 111 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:21,000 Now, do they have a description? Do they have a description? Oh, it was they gave the same description. The same, the horse and the tentacle, the whole thing. The whole length. 112 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:40,000 Man, like I am down with being a bunch of different types of aliens and multi-dimensional and interdimensional and visible and not, but this thing seems absolutely ridiculous. It's wild. And the fact that more than two people saw it. 113 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:49,000 I'm not saying it gives a credence. I guess the whole thing could be completely like someone could have wrote this as like a short story essay and then someone fucking ran with it or someone in the newspaper wrote this. 114 00:13:49,000 --> 00:14:01,000 I'd like to go with my gut on these things. My gut says, horse was real. This early with the information I have currently. 115 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:18,000 I'm inclined to agree and I'm not going to disagree, but it wasn't long after this second encounter that the local and regional news outlets started reporting on the encounters and they actually gave this thing its name, the crazy critter of Bald Mountain. 116 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:26,000 And even speculating that maybe the fire, fire object in the sky seen a few days later, maybe connected to whatever this thing is. 117 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:30,000 I can see putting those two things together. I mean, it makes sense. 118 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:34,000 It makes a lot of sense. Firey thing in the sky. 119 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:40,000 Horse sized scale tentacle-legged visible being. 120 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,000 They got to be related, is it? Yeah. 121 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,000 What do you got? 122 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:48,000 It's just, I don't know. You just want to look at these people in the eye. 123 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:57,000 They're telling the story because then if you if you could talk to them and see them, you could maybe get a real sense of their bullshit. 124 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:03,000 Yeah, I mean, if they had like genuine fear, genuine, like a generosity, I don't know, genuinely. 125 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:07,000 They're genuine. You could see it is what I'm trying to say. 126 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,000 Sure. 127 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,000 That'd be their integrity. 128 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:16,000 Maybe. I don't know. Now, Kevin, this has been a pretty weird story so far, right? 129 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,000 Yeah. Yeah. 130 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:22,000 We could probably end it here and be satisfied. Right, Kevin? 131 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:33,000 We could. Well, you're wrong, Kevin, because no good alien story isn't complete until there is a visit from the men in black. 132 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:38,000 Oh, so not too long after the stories of UFO was real. 133 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,000 I knew it. I knew it. Horseless was real. I knew it. 134 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,000 They don't show up unless there's an issue. Exactly. 135 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:55,000 So not too long after the stories of UFO crashes and weird horse aliens started hitting the papers, local sheriff William H. Weister launched an investigation into the matter. 136 00:15:55,000 --> 00:16:01,000 And I just want to say this. I love when small town police are like, we're going to be the ones to crack this case. 137 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:05,000 We got this. Like, it's the mid 70s. Your budget is maybe a grand. 138 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,000 You have four deputies. You have 11 bullets. 139 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:16,000 You have two sidearms between all of you. Like, you're the ones who are going to be the ones to once and for all prove aliens are real. 140 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:20,000 I don't know why. Put them in the back of the squad car. 141 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:28,000 I just love that concept that this old man sheriff is like, well, you know, he's ready to go. He's ready to go. 142 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:32,000 No way. Delusions of grandeur. These guys. 143 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,000 Well, waiting for their shot. They see that as their shot. 144 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:44,000 But I just people in the 70s, they just had like a undeserved sense of they were go getters. 145 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,000 Self starters. I guess working man's generation. 146 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:51,000 I think I think they had to do with all the lead in the air from all the leaded fuel. 147 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,000 I'm sure it just a lot of lead paint. Yeah. 148 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:59,000 Everything was lead lead pipes, probably radioactive. 149 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:04,000 The only thing that wasn't where it was the pencils. That's graphite. 150 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,000 Oh, it's always been graphite. Oh, has it really? Oh, yeah. 151 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,000 Ever led. Are you fucking with me right now? 152 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:15,000 Then why do we call it lead? That's that's what I'm saying. 153 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,000 No, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. 154 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:24,000 All right. Well, unfortunately for the sheriff and his deputies, they never got the chance. 155 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:33,000 Not long after opening the investigation, it was immediately halted by individuals claiming to represent the Air Force and NASA. 156 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:43,000 Now, the quote unquote officials were said to have been wearing military uniforms, but didn't seem to have any type of identifiable emblems or markings on them. 157 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:48,000 No, no insignia is just jumpsuits. And they were also allegedly heavily armed. 158 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:55,000 It's assumed that these officials probably came from McCord Air Force Base, which is in the area. 159 00:17:55,000 --> 00:18:08,000 OK. But once this crack team of extraterrestrial investigators showed up, any and all information on the critter disappeared and the critter itself was never seen again, leaving behind so many questions. 160 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:15,000 What happened to it? Did the men in black track it down and capture it? Use it for like weird experiments? Did it return home? Where was home? 161 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:22,000 Was it from space? It had tentacles in a globe. Maybe it came from the ocean where those traits are more common in deep sea creatures. 162 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:34,000 If so, how did it end up this far inland? I was thinking about the deep sea thing when during the initial description, it sounded like it had a lot of traits of a deep sea underwater creature. 163 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:38,000 Right. The bioluminescence tentacles. 164 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:47,000 The tentacles, obviously. The antenna on top of its head could be like an anglerfish type thing. It's scales. Horse size with tentacle feet. 165 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:53,000 Like you're going to need some sort of buoyancy. That's unless those things are like maybe it could be like anaconda strong. 166 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:57,000 Well, let's suppose it was it was horse size. It didn't say it was the shape of a horse. 167 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:03,000 Like you're picturing I think in your head you're picturing a horse's body. In my head. 168 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:08,000 It's a horse's body with tentacle legs. You named it horse-ula. Did you not? 169 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:22,000 Now in my head, it's a horse. It is a horse shape with where the horse's legs would be our giant tentacles that it flops around like when the octopodes or whatever walk on the bottom of the seafloor. 170 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,000 Yeah, it's horse size. All right. 171 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:37,000 Yes, yes. I feel like I got to see the artist rendering. I almost don't want to see the artist rendering. I want to bullet point the description and draw a few and then look at the artist rendering and see. 172 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,000 So you don't want me to say. 173 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:46,000 Where I'd land. You can send it, but I'm not going to look at it until after I get a few ideas sketched out. 174 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:51,000 Okay, I'll save it until you show me your sketches and I'll show you. 175 00:19:51,000 --> 00:20:01,000 You don't trust me. I do have a hard time with that. Maybe I don't like surprises. Although I didn't know the sex of my son until he was born, so I did. That was a big surprise. But anyway. 176 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,000 Horse-ula. So not a horse. 177 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:10,000 It's not necessarily a horse shape, but the size. 178 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,000 The shape is everything. 179 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:19,000 Do you feel better about it now or do you feel worse about it? 180 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:26,000 Well, more alien, less weird. It was way weirder when I had it as a horse shape. 181 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:34,000 Now it could be any shape which try to make some more sense with the, you know, like the appendages and the physical traits I had to work with. 182 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:43,000 It would have been wild if it was just like a chimera. This may have been a different podcast if I didn't think it was a horse from the beginning. 183 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:50,000 I'm happy with the way it's going so far. I mean, I'm all bored with the horse. We're already almost at the end of it. So that's, you know, we're killing it. I feel pretty good about it. 184 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:54,000 Yes, like one of those car rides that just flows by. 185 00:20:54,000 --> 00:21:02,000 All right. We may never get the answers to these questions, but hey, sometimes mystery is part of the fun with these types of stories and keeping it. 186 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:09,000 And it keeps it in the minds of those who like this sort of stuff, ensuring that tales like these don't just like fade into obscurity. 187 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:15,000 But Kevin, this we cannot let horse will fade. It's never going to fade. It will live on in my family for generations to come. 188 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:20,000 You're going to tell the story. Probably probably as a horse. I'm going to tell them when I leave the room. 189 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:25,000 I'm going to go upstairs and be like, but listen to this shit right here. 190 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:29,000 I'm going to tell you a yard. I'm going to spin you a yard and my son. 191 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,000 So, Kevin, that was the tale of the crazy critter of Bald Mountains. 192 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:41,000 Now I want to get obviously I know you love it so far, but like what do you think? But like where where are you as far as like some of these questions that people have? 193 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,000 Like, do you think that the reason why I never returned is because the men in black captured it? 194 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:53,000 Or do you think it well, I mean, I feel like it's all it's all so it's all so implied that the men in black showing up and then it disappearing. 195 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:59,000 Like, it's clear they want you to think that they have a handle on it. But did they ever they usually never do. 196 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:07,000 What came of the fiery crash, fire, fiery fireball crash? Was there at no wreckage ever? Did I? 197 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,000 I don't think anyone ever investigated it. 198 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:22,000 It seems to be like it's late, but there's like, oh, we found something like some sort of crash dome that this amorphous blob tentacle for horse being lived in. 199 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,000 This was piloting the interstellar universe. I don't know. 200 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:34,000 But you don't you would think you don't necessarily need some old spacecraft if you're going to, you know, maybe he just maybe blipped out. 201 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:42,000 Maybe he did open a portal. He had a little biome technological device where he boop boop boop and. 202 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:49,000 Well, maybe he opened up a portal on the side of the highway and went right to his world, which is underwater. 203 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:56,000 Maybe he built his water world like on Star Wars, but it was where they made the clones. 204 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,000 Oh, Kamino Kamino. 205 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,000 Very good. Yeah, look at that. 206 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,000 I got Star Wars posters all over my walls. I know my shit. I do. 207 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:09,000 I see. Yeah, I knew you know, but I don't you knew you knew that one piece thing. 208 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,000 You know a lot about this kind of stuff than I do. I don't watch one piece. 209 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:19,000 I just think it's funny that I asked you if you had the rest of my one piece stuff and you thought I just meant literally the one piece. 210 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,000 You had the one piece. I told a bunch of people that story. They're all laughing at me. 211 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,000 They knew my brother knew he's like, yeah, that's funny. 212 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,000 You know, no, I don't know. He's 15. I don't know. 213 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,000 Well, you got to be more of a nerd, Kev. I don't know. 214 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,000 I don't watch much TV anymore. Yeah. 215 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,000 Well, don't get into one piece because there's nine thousand episodes and it's still going. 216 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:42,000 So you'll never catch up. I can't I can't do those things too much for me. 217 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:47,000 I'll be an old man. But what you were saying about it open a portal. 218 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:52,000 I mean, like, I don't I don't think it would have been a nuts and bolts UFO type thing with this thing. 219 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,000 First of all, it has tentacles for hands. What the fuck is it going to do? 220 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,000 Then like what are we talking about with the firing? 221 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:06,000 If it's if it is a portal being near interment or then it does whatever the men in black are not going to be able to catch it because it can blip out. 222 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,000 But if it did come in the spacecraft and that thing crashed, 223 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:21,000 then maybe the men in black didn't get a hold of this actual physical being and haul them away in some base in New Mexico or something where your cloud is for your iPhone pictures right next door to each other. 224 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:30,000 I think that the fireball and the critter are just two separate events that just happen to like coincide with one another. 225 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:35,000 I don't think they're related shit. I mean, it's Washington. I mean, I'm sure like. 226 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:41,000 I guess, but I like you've never seen a shooting star and there I've seen four in one night before. 227 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,000 It's not like so uncommon. 228 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,000 I was brag about it. 229 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:48,000 But I guess I felt I did feel a little braggy when I said it. 230 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,000 I didn't mean to come off like that. 231 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,000 The men in black, I feel like they never actually accomplish anything. 232 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,000 They don't like the government agency. 233 00:24:55,000 --> 00:25:00,000 They just show up after the facts, tell you to stop talking about it, and then they just fuck off. 234 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:07,000 They don't do it. They don't do anything like when the Mothman was showing up around fucking Point Pleasant, they just showed up, acted weird as fuck. 235 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:12,000 And then that bridge still collapsed and killed a bunch of people like they're not preventing anything. 236 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,000 What are they going to do? What are they going to do? Exactly. 237 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,000 They're more just like document, observing document. 238 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:21,000 That's all. They don't have any real power and prevent you from talking about it. 239 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,000 That's all it is. They're trying to keep you on the wraps. 240 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,000 People still talk about it and then they don't die. 241 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,000 So like it's fine. They're probably just much better. Oh, but I don't die. 242 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,000 You're fine. Are you looking at your window right now? Make sure there's no men in black. 243 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,000 There's a turkey. Is a turkey? Yeah. 244 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,000 What is your life? It happens. It happens sometimes. 245 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,000 Oh shit. All right, Kevin. Well, that is the story. I appreciate you coming on. 246 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,000 Thanks for having me. 247 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,000 Usually, usually I tell my guests if they have anything they want to plug, they can plug it here. 248 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,000 I don't know if you have anything going on that you would like. Absolutely not. 249 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:59,000 All right. Sick. Well, thanks so much. I'm going to plug a bunch of shit. 250 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,000 Follow me on Instagram at Crypto Cocktail. Follow me on Twitter at Crypto Cocktail. 251 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:07,000 I don't ever use it. 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And if you want to support the show, there is a link in the episode description. 262 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:50,000 You can donate to the virtual tip jar one time, weekly, monthly, however much you want to pay me to keep drinking and talking shit. 263 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,000 But with that, Kevin, you want to say bye to everyone? 264 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,000 Well, I'd like to say it's probably worth it just for the Frogman episode alone, 265 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:03,000 because I've listened to that John Bunting Frogman episode a handful of times and just cracks me up every time. 266 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,000 Really? But yeah, no, thank you. Thanks for having me. Yeah, it's freaking hilarious. 267 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:12,000 I appreciate that. Yeah. Say goodbye to everyone, Kevin. 268 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:39,000 Bye, everybody. Thanks so much, Dave.