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Hello everybody! Welcome back to another episode of Cryptid Cocktail Party, a show

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where we have a few drinks, share a few laughs, take a dive into the unknown. I'm

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your host Dave and I'm joined once again by the beautifully bearded, glass-

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glasses-faced Luke Farris. Call me four eyes bitch, I don't know dude.

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They don't need to know that I am bespectacled. I was trying to do like an

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alliteration and then I lost it as soon as it came out of my mouth. It was

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immediately. I had no idea where you- I didn't even know you were trying to do

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alliteration. That too- well clearly I lost it. What's going on bud? Same shit as

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last time. Just got out of work kind of toasty. You're looking good. I know you

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were a little late recording today because you had to attempt to beat your

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high score at pinball. What game were you playing? That was on Medieval Madness.

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Oh. Classic Williams game. Obviously. You're a fool if you don't know what- what is it?

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Medieval Madness? What even- Medieval Madness is? Medieval Madness. Yeah. Honestly if you're

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into pinball like that's like the Metallica. It was like have you ever

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heard of Metallica? And like you're wearing like a metal band shirt. You get

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to punch that man. Oh gotcha. Of course I fucking played Medieval Madness asshole

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like that's like a basic bitch game. Yeah name four obstacles.

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Joust, Peasant Revolt, The King of Pain, and Catapult. I did not think this. I was just trying to make a

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riff off the gatekeeping thing but no all right I was- no I got it. I'm glad you're

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doing good dude. I ate a bunch of Chinese food for lunch before we started

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recording and now I'm like out of breath. I don't know if that's like like a

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diabetes thing. Are you allergic to soy sauce? No I'm not like out of breath like I

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can't like my throat's closing it's like I'm just winded because I ate so much

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food. No I get that. Yeah. Yeah during the summer I have no motivation to eat so I

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was called charcuterie summer and I always have a charcuterie board going

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through. Cheese can take your breath away. I would like I will let you know. What I

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mean like it takes your breath away in the same way that like I don't know

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seeing a sunset takes your breath away. No it's different. I lie on my couch with

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my shirt off just going for like a while. That's fair. All right well Luke I teased

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you earlier about what our episode is gonna be. Now for those of you

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listening today's episode is not a it's not a cryptid it's not a monster it's

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not an alien it's not a ghost it's not interdimensional it is a theory. It's

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ultranauts. No am I correct? No. No Luke today we're gonna delve into the world

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of completely insane. It's a theory that people just decided hey centuries of

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science be gone. I'm gonna believe in what I want to believe in. Do you know

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what it is now? Flat Earth. No close we're gonna talk about Admiral Bird and the

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Hollow Earth theory. Oh man. You're so close. All right you ready to dive into

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this man? Oh 100%. Okay so much like Flat Earth the Hollow Earth theory isn't a new

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concept. Ancient cultures and mythologies around the world have some sort of

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variant of it in their belief system. The Greeks and the Romans had Hades. The

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Christians have Hell. Tibetan Buddhists had a belief that there's an ancient

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city located inside the earth that is called Shambhala. I don't know if I'm

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pronouncing that right but I'm just gonna go phonetically with it because

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Shambhala sounds like a vibe to be honest. If someone was like on vacationing

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on Shambhala I'd be like dude fuck yeah buddy. Yeah that's like an Instagram

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influencer's like bitches we in Shambhala look at this yacht. Yeah Abiza first and

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then Shambhala for the last couple days. I made sure to order my white linens

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when we go to Shambhala because it gets it's warm there it's breezy. So during

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the Middle Ages both the Germans and the Russians had stories of portals that

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led to the center of the earth. Even the Native Americans believed the earth was

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hollow and was accessible through tunnels and caves across America whose

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locations would depend on which tribes beliefs that were being

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referenced at the time. So like I said it's nothing new and it's completely

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understandable that ancient cultures would have believed the earth was hollow

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because science hadn't been able to prove it otherwise or you know like

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really exist. Much. Yeah so but knowing what we know now with a wealth of

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knowledge at our fingertips and centuries of science and data to back it

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up just like flat earth theories there has been like a resurgence in belief for

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some reason of the hollow earth theory. Now I assume it's either because of like

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social media like TikTok or pop culture like the recent Godzilla, King Kong, like

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the monster verse like make really big references to it as well as the

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Aquaman movies which I've never seen because fuck DC movies. Well I mean

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depends the Batman was sick. The Batman was sick. The new Suicide Squad.

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The new Suicide Squad was good. No? So how am I saying that the DC movies are bad?

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Oh no. I agree with you but you're trying to get people to listen you

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just made a bunch of nerds mad. That's fine.

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But honestly Marvel sucks too. It's all just kind of they're all the same movie

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at this point now. Yeah I'm over it. So Luke what what happened? What happened to

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make people decide to just negate years and centuries of science and be like

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nah this is this can't be right. What happened here? So here's exactly what

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happened. So right when personal computers started gaining access to the

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internet yeah the first people to get that were nerds and they did for fun

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they had message boards and there were two sides you get assigned a side it's

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like a nerdy debate club that mostly the Flat Earth one was bigger but there was

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also Hollow Earth and that this one is two sided with Hollow Earth and also

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comes down to Hollow Moon. Hollow Moon is almost the topic of this episode. I could

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have taught this episode if it was on Hollow Moon but boomers essentially.

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Because then after these message boards were fully established yes boomers

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ended up finding them and they didn't get the joke. True. They did not know that

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they were supposed to like they're using like these bullshit like things to keep

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a debate going. Yeah well it was and like message boards back then like

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especially like the Flat Earth stuff is that like it was nerds they didn't

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really believe in what they were talking about but what you were right they chose

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a side and it wasn't trolling it was light-hearted ribbing like I believe

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everyone knew that everyone was in on the joke yes and then a bunch of

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dum-dums found those and were like oh man these Flat Earthers are making like

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a lot of sense. Same thing with Hollow Earth which spoiler for the rest of the

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episode they they were not making sense they were just smarter than you talking

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about something and you got tricked. That's right. That is so that was one part of it

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and then it also comes down to Hollow Moon where technically if you look at the

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math our moon shouldn't be no we're not gonna do that now we're not gonna do

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okay let's make this a three hour episode come on no just wait Luke all

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right well you are partially right on where the modern concept of Hollow Moon

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came from it actually started in the 1600s if you want to call that modern

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it's not ancient it's closer to where we are now than fucking cell phones right

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yeah it's with it with a book called the Mundus Subterranius which was a

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straight-up textbook written by Athanasius Kircher which made the claim

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that the North and South Poles were connected by like a big old tunnel that

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fed water through to either side I think maybe I couldn't find an English version

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of the book so I just went off of what Wikipedia had to say on it and even then

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it was very minimal because I think that's basically the gist of it is that

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in the middle of the world this is hollow it's a giant tube connecting the

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North and South Pole that's how the water circulates around the earth I don't

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know then in 1692 a dude named Edmund Haley trying to understand why the

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Earth's magnetic field was acting all like caddywampus concluded that the

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earth must be hollow sort of it wasn't so much like a hollow ball but consisted

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of three like three shells the outer shell the one that we're on and it's

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only 500 miles thick two inner consent concentric shells and then a core now

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these three shells had their own standard right had their own magnetic

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poles and rotated at different speeds which explained why the earth's magnetic

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field would shift which I mean he is kind of right about like it does shift

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because the mag like the core moves around but not so much in the fact that

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there's just a bunch of different rings it kind of reminds me of like the

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Time Turner from Harry Potter is what he's picturing opening of Game of Thrones

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or the opening of Game of yeah that's exactly it that is exactly it one guy in

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1780 proposed that caves near the Mississippi River was an entrance to

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Hollow Earth and then I'll buy into that just because of hellier and then in 1818

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a guy named John Cleaves Sims jr. came up with the idea that the earth is made up

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of a single 810 mile thick shell with openings at the poles that were 1400

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1400 miles wide and then inside there were four more inner shells with their

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own openings at the pole I don't know man this all just sounds like just

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like grifter Alex Jones theater like bullshit oh man dude sims got a

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statue erected of him in Ohio for just like making shit up but you get the idea

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that Hollow Earth is stupid and boring but it's also been around forever

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yeah so do you want to get to like a good story about it yeah no Dave no

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actually let's skip that one well this is gonna be the rest of the episode so

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I'm sorry where are we at right now in Hollow Earth are we are we bored yet

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uh there's so much there's so much more other shit like putting my Alex Jones

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hat on I'm very mad at the picture of a woman I have near my computer but no

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one's been there so no one's been where in the center of the earth yeah cuz

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it's that's the that's the hat that I'm wearing right now okay just let it go

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cuz it's full of lava I guess magma lava is when it's on magma yeah you were so

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ready to fucking correct me you asshole oh man all right um sorry I'm just

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trying to decide what beer I'm gonna drink next I got a rye ale IPA called

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green weenie or that one I know I'm choosing for you green weenie green weenie

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unless the next episode no you already did the hopskin Hopkins ditto goblins

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yeah you should have a stroke a little bit all right this is not my first drink

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so the story that made the hollow earth theory really jump back into the

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mainstream and give it a push on the smooth brain conspiracy theorists was

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when in 1997 the flight journal and quote-unquote secret diary of Admiral

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Richard B bird detailing his February 19th 1947 flyover of the North Pole got

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published his quote-unquote secret diary I'm putting this in quotes because okay

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wait first up I think every diary should be a secret diary unless it's on live

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journal this that is true the thing I got is that his apparently what after he

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died his son released his journal and then some college published it something

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I don't know all I know is that move nothing I'm gonna go right there it's a

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dick move yeah for your own son just put your shit out on the streets like that

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dude you ever read the diary of Anne Frank mm-hmm they should have you

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should cut a lot of a lot of that out well I get the historical importance but

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like what parts Luke I know the parts you're thinking like parts the 12 year

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old girl was finding out about genitals yeah that is fair yeah go to cut that one

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out okay I came to the same realization at a certain age as well but we didn't

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blast it into common practice reading for schools but a hum it I mean it was

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already a very humanizing diary but I mean I guess it kind of humanize was but

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you could have left that out fair enough all right but anyways let's get back to

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you want to read about a 12 year old girl talking about penises I didn't Luke

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let's get back to Admiral Byrd and his secret I like where we're going his

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secret diary starts out like this quote I must write this diary in secret and

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obscurity it concerns my Arctic flight of the 19th day February in the year of

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19 and 7 1947 there comes a time when the rationality of men must fade into

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insignificance and one must accept the inevitability of truth I'm not at

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liberty to discuss the following documentation at the time of this

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writing perhaps it shall never see the light of public scrutiny but I must do

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my duty and record here for all the read one little did you know that his shit

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fuck of a son is like yo he didn't want anyone to see this hey I got this thing

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now now from here he details his flight at 6 a.m. Byrd takes off from the Arctic

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base camp around 730 he radios back to camp to check in all is normal besides a

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few run ins with some turbulence everything is smooth sailing that is

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until a little after three hours into the flight he notices some discoloration

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in the snow with some it's yellow with some reds and purples mixed in they seem

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to go in a linear pattern now he circles the air a few times to get a better look

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when both of his onboard compasses start spinning and wobbling and he's unable to

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keep them steady so they're just going ape shit they're just fucking twirling

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all around and wait he's near the pole right he's flying over the North Pole

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that's what happens yes I know but he also notes that his controls feel slow

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and sluggish as if something is slowly moving his plane for him now only five

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minutes later at 915 he sees a mountain range in the distance that he has never

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noticed before and heads for them when his aircraft finally gets to this

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mysterious mountain range 45 minutes later he sees a lush green valley with

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a running river flowing through it the mountain sides are covered in thick

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forests he lowers his altitude and makes a sharp turn to better examine the

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valley and noting that quote the light here seems different I cannot see the

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Sun anymore and quote where are we at Luke I don't believe them you don't

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believe them oh you froze you froze there for a second so I didn't know what

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was happening yeah the audio was fine though um maybe you shouldn't be able to

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fly anymore just saying because you can't see the Sun because he doesn't know

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how instruments work well I don't think anyone has flown over the Arctic before

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I think this is like a new thing was this like the first flight to the Arctic

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I have no idea I don't look into that much because I feel like we always

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knew how compasses worked true magnet it is a magnet and it points at one thing

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this is fair but I guess yeah you are you are at the highest point of north

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you can get what else is it gonna do you go over it and all of a sudden it

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switches around like yeah you crossed it so like I said he lowers his altitude

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makes a sharp turn to better examine the valley noting that the light there is

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different he can't see the Sun anymore he makes another left turn so you know

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the circle when he spots an animal moving my compass is spinning when he

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spots an animal moving in the distance he drops his altitude to a thousand feet

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and whips out his trusty binoculars and what does he see I want to give you a

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guess what does he see when he pulls out his binoculars what is the animal that

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he's seeing the jackalope it's a fucking woolly mammoth ah yeah of course the

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ancestor of the jackal it tracks I was I was close you were just a couple you

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know but all right so he keeps flying and observing his surroundings and his

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instruments which are now telling him that it's 74 degrees outside now mind

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you he's supposed to be in the North Pole now it's about around 1130 and he's

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now over what appears to be just a beautiful countryside just amber waves

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of grain and spots what he believes is a city in states that his plane feels

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light and oddly buoyant and the aircraft's controls refuse to respond and

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it was pretty much flying on its own so he felt like he should tell a ground

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control that he thinks his plane knows what to do yeah pretty much it's a major

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time it's then that he notices a strange type of aircraft closing in at a very

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rapid rate he states they are disk shape and have a radiant quality to them he

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then goes on to write quote they're close enough now to see the markings on

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them it is a type of swastika this is fantastic you know what never mind no

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and Frank I want to hear everything she has to learn about any more pages to

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that book I want it well some people I know your mind immediately went to

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Nazis and that the tool society there is a theory that they did enter Hollow

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Earth and took refuge there I don't think that's what he's referencing I

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remember at the top I mentioned the mythological Buddhist city Shambhala oh

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what year was this again 1947 I'm yep no I should hold on so I think that's what

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he's talking about considering the swastika was a Buddhist symbol long

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before the Nazis or at least that's what I hope considering that bird was a

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World War two vet and this is not long after so I consider just like all my

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boys I honestly hope you wouldn't be like that stuck to see not he's like oh shit

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thank God an ally is here anyways continuing on now after noticing the

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craft your ports your reports of voice coming through the radio and he

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described it as having a slight Nordic or German accent oh okay oh no all right

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so maybe it's attention calm down I'm just saying is ahead of Germanic or

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Nordic accent maybe it's not the Buddhist city that we're all thinking oh

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yeah no cuz like I lived in Nepal for a little bit and there was swastikas

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everywhere but they did not have Nordic and or German accents no I think so

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they're all four and a half feet tall and had the accent you would imagine I

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think but so the voice relayed the message should I try and do like an

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alien like I'm not gonna try and do a German accent no no no yes you are not

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that no okay I will I will end this podcast ready yep welcome Admiral to our

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domain we shall land you on exactly seven minutes

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relax Admiral you are in good hands yeah I loved that because I couldn't tell if

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you're trying to do alien or German as combo it was right in the middle I love

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that sweet spot if I saw an alien with a swastika on his arm that's I know it's

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gonna sound that's exact all right now it's then when he realizes that the

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engines to the plane aren't even on and that the plane is moving on its own

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completely now at this point the mysterious now controller of Bird's

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plane starts starts the landing process Bird describes the descent as though

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caught in some great unseen elevator and they touched down with no more than a

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slight jolt now it's only 1145 only five hours and 45 minutes from the time it

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took to take off from when they ended up touching down in this mysterious

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possibly Nazi occupied world now here is what Admiral Bird writes in the planes

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flight log just after touchdown quote I am making a hasty last entry in the

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flight log several men are approaching on foot towards our aircraft they are

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tall with blonde hair in the distance is a large shimmering city pulsating with

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rainbow hues of color I do not know what is going to happen now but I see no

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signs of weapons on those approaching I hear now a voice ordering me by name to

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open the cargo door I comply and log and that is where we will return next week

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oh what happened next with Admiral Bird and his adventures into Hollow Earth

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because there's so much going on smash that like button hit that Bell there was

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so much to cover on this because like after the flight log ends it goes into

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him just recounting what happened through memory and it gets fucking wild

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and I could not fit it into a half hour long episode so I'm gonna break it down

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into segments so I'm saying through new format three hours long this is a

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knowledge fight I can't this isn't Dan Carlin's hardcore history I can't have

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oh I'm not even thinking hardcore history I'm thinking like astonishing

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legends each this is still part one it's just gonna be three hours long we're

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gonna delve and go now like they did nine hours on a whole a whole I don't

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know how they did it but it was great was it a sinkhole or just just a hole oh

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no sir was called Mel's hole it was uh I think I saw that documentary on Pornhub

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I found it on Pornhub but yeah

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oh shit Luke well here's the thing so we have the rest of Admiral Bird story that

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will cover that will cover recover next week but after that this is gonna be a

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series because I found out about con convex earth which is that is that we

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are not we are actually living we are living inside the Hollow Earth we're on

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the outside of the rim baby on the world we're on the inside of the rim

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thing imagine yeah yeah it's a whole no no I get you it's a you sounded like you

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were making like something a very hard to understand argument no I get it it's

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not a but thing I promise yeah like if I look up I can see China which spoiler

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alert I can't and also the Sun goes down sometimes but well no so you do you

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think about it all wrong oh I think I have no idea but it turns the whole

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thing Hollow Earth goes way way beyond what I thought I could fit into a whole

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half-hour episode so we're just gonna do that next week oh the level of dumb

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dumbest just keeps going my man it's absurd can part 7 be us on a bunch of

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turtles well that's what I believe is that we do live on the back of a giant

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turtle obviously that goes against my religion of believing Ouroboros holds

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the oceans together oh shit well Luke you're coming some turtles aren't friends

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you fucking idiot you're coming back next week we're gonna finish this off

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and we're not well no because this will happen for probably the next month

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because there's gonna be so much of it but if you want to go hollow Earth for

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the last our hollow moon for the last one I implore you to write an episode of

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high what I will take the reins for that one well we'll percent down we'll finish

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it up with hollow moon so everyone get ready for the next month and a half

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basically of Luke being on the show and then bonus patreon do the moon tunnel the

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fuck is the moon tunnel oh boy I'm working it in don't worry I don't know

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the moose out whatever well Luke thank you so much if you want to talk about

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weird journals found by weird men the moon tunnel is where it's at I bet there

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are a lot weirder journals from a lot weirder madden there's worse things

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written by worse people I fucking know that for sure but there's probably worse

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things written by better people but either way I mean thank you so much for coming on

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make sure everyone who is listening sticks around to next week to hear how

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this ends Luke I don't know if you have anything you want to plug I don't know

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what's that no fucking follow my Instagram spring-heeled Luke yeah

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bring Hilda it's mostly my cat my cat's great it's my cat and pinball scores

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yeah so if you're in the pinball follow Luke's Luke works at a pinball bar I

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guess he would call it that three years but no well he did work at a pinball

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bar yeah and now we just hang out there yeah now he's a barber bar barber bar

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bar bar that's attached to the pinball bar bar that I used to work at look at

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that's all next time where we just make a lol lol lol sounds for about 45 minutes

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well that's that's me my new podcast it's all just gibberish ASMR well probably

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get more followers alright everyone thank you so much for listening make

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taking them out of the store as soon as go fuck and get them because I approve

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best and diamonds yeah so snag one please do and with that Luke do you want

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to say goodbye to the lovely audience I'm good

