WEBVTT 00:00:03.500 --> 00:00:13.859 Get ready to take off with Dynamic Golf. Welcome 00:00:13.859 --> 00:00:16.539 back, listeners, to our Dynamic Golf podcast. 00:00:18.140 --> 00:00:20.000 We've been away for a couple months, so we're 00:00:20.000 --> 00:00:21.739 excited to get back. We've got a lot of interesting 00:00:21.739 --> 00:00:24.719 new topics. As always, I'm joined by my partner, 00:00:24.820 --> 00:00:27.039 Tim McElvena. Tim Mc, how are you doing today 00:00:27.039 --> 00:00:29.100 down there in Tampa? Doing great. Thank you, 00:00:29.100 --> 00:00:31.420 Sean. Great to be back on the podcast. Great 00:00:31.420 --> 00:00:36.060 to have everything back up and running. I know 00:00:36.060 --> 00:00:38.299 we've got some great topics up today, and I'm 00:00:38.299 --> 00:00:40.939 super excited to talk about it and get back here 00:00:40.939 --> 00:00:43.500 with a little bit of our Oakley family and tell 00:00:43.500 --> 00:00:46.359 them what we're working on. Yeah, so we got a 00:00:46.359 --> 00:00:49.100 special guest coming up, Scott Johnson, our head 00:00:49.100 --> 00:00:51.840 golf professional at Oakley. We want to talk 00:00:51.840 --> 00:00:53.539 to him about the importance of like a driver 00:00:53.539 --> 00:00:55.219 fitting. I think that'll be a great segment. 00:00:55.899 --> 00:00:57.600 But, you know, what we really wanted to start 00:00:57.600 --> 00:01:00.420 off with TMAC was I walked out this morning and 00:01:00.420 --> 00:01:03.659 there's some ice on my windows. It's October 00:01:03.659 --> 00:01:07.000 29th or whatever date it is, 27th. Yeah. And 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:09.760 I'm like, uh -oh, it's here. You know, it's the 00:01:09.760 --> 00:01:12.140 first time I've had to pull out the ice scraper 00:01:12.140 --> 00:01:15.859 and stuff. So just kind of talking about, you 00:01:15.859 --> 00:01:18.000 know, it's funny, you know, like you said, like 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:20.099 you guys in Florida, you kind of go into New 00:01:20.099 --> 00:01:22.560 Year's season. Summertime is sort of the less 00:01:22.560 --> 00:01:26.560 busy time. It's definitely less busy, but you 00:01:26.560 --> 00:01:29.620 can play more golf from October through April. 00:01:30.379 --> 00:01:34.560 Conditions are better. But up here, it's the 00:01:34.560 --> 00:01:36.560 opposite. Like they almost are putting the clubs 00:01:36.560 --> 00:01:39.060 down, you know, pretty soon within the next week, 00:01:39.079 --> 00:01:41.579 probably two weeks at the most. So just kind 00:01:41.579 --> 00:01:45.939 of the importance of... keeping up with you know 00:01:45.939 --> 00:01:48.019 even like a little bit of a regimen in the gym 00:01:48.019 --> 00:01:51.540 or what are you going to do in the off time yeah 00:01:51.540 --> 00:01:54.799 off season we'll call it to continue to get better 00:01:54.799 --> 00:01:56.819 at the game like that's kind of the conversation 00:01:56.819 --> 00:02:00.700 when i kind of revolve around um so what what 00:02:00.700 --> 00:02:02.359 are your sort of some of your things that you 00:02:02.359 --> 00:02:06.239 even warm it up to go play golf like kind of 00:02:06.239 --> 00:02:08.139 how do you get prepared to play around the golf 00:02:08.139 --> 00:02:10.740 with vas or with your buddies or whatever that 00:02:10.740 --> 00:02:14.639 is well especially at a at a you know middle 00:02:14.639 --> 00:02:17.460 -aged i'd say you know at 48 years old you definitely 00:02:17.460 --> 00:02:20.039 want to warm up get the juices kind of going 00:02:20.039 --> 00:02:23.180 a little bit uh as far as kind of a you know 00:02:23.180 --> 00:02:25.960 warm up or practice a little bit definitely get 00:02:25.960 --> 00:02:29.080 out of the cart stretch a little bit um typically 00:02:29.080 --> 00:02:32.219 i'm kind of joked at or laughed at but i do jumping 00:02:32.219 --> 00:02:34.219 jacks to kind of start off just to get the blood 00:02:34.219 --> 00:02:36.620 moving you know i think that's a that's a great 00:02:36.620 --> 00:02:38.680 part just to kind of you know even if i don't 00:02:38.680 --> 00:02:41.319 have time to hit balls or or do something at 00:02:41.319 --> 00:02:44.219 least getting the blood to move out to the outer 00:02:44.219 --> 00:02:47.639 rims of the the limbs is important so i think 00:02:47.639 --> 00:02:50.039 even if you don't have any time to really swing 00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:52.340 a club if you can just do some jumping jacks 00:02:52.340 --> 00:02:55.000 or get your legs moving a little bit i think 00:02:55.000 --> 00:02:57.240 that's a great start especially especially in 00:02:57.240 --> 00:02:59.400 the winter time up there if you're doing anything 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:01.629 it's just getting that blood circulating again. 00:03:02.349 --> 00:03:04.969 Oh, it's funny because any other sport you do, 00:03:04.990 --> 00:03:08.590 are you just going to go in and do a cold? No, 00:03:08.789 --> 00:03:12.050 no, nothing like, you know, basketball, baseball, 00:03:12.370 --> 00:03:17.469 hockey, football, lacrosse up here. Like there's 00:03:17.469 --> 00:03:20.129 just, they're stretching. There's time, you know, 00:03:20.129 --> 00:03:23.409 teams are stretching. There's time in your. Getting 00:03:23.409 --> 00:03:25.129 warmed up, like you said, kind of getting the 00:03:25.129 --> 00:03:27.069 blood flowing, a little sweat on the brow type 00:03:27.069 --> 00:03:30.849 of thing. Why do we just assume that you can 00:03:30.849 --> 00:03:33.569 walk from the parking lot to the first tee and 00:03:33.569 --> 00:03:36.590 expect good results, right? It's really just 00:03:36.590 --> 00:03:39.129 crazy. I mean, I don't know how else to describe 00:03:39.129 --> 00:03:41.879 it. Yeah, I mean, I remember, you know, playing 00:03:41.879 --> 00:03:45.620 baseball in high school and in college. I mean, 00:03:45.639 --> 00:03:47.639 you're there at the baseball field two hours 00:03:47.639 --> 00:03:50.139 before, you know, first pitch. And I'm sure for 00:03:50.139 --> 00:03:53.159 basketball and everybody else, it was football. 00:03:53.340 --> 00:03:55.860 Think about that. They're starting two, three 00:03:55.860 --> 00:03:59.300 hours ahead. Yeah, and they are. They're stretching. 00:04:00.009 --> 00:04:01.689 They're either being stretched, they're being 00:04:01.689 --> 00:04:05.270 worked on. Again, we're not trying to make the 00:04:05.270 --> 00:04:08.229 listeners into tour professionals. No. But, again, 00:04:08.349 --> 00:04:10.590 if your expectation is to try to shoot lower 00:04:10.590 --> 00:04:13.490 scores, you've got to kind of watch what those 00:04:13.490 --> 00:04:16.009 guys and what those girls do on TV. Correct. 00:04:16.449 --> 00:04:19.529 We know that Scheffler and Rory and even Tiger 00:04:19.529 --> 00:04:22.949 was notorious, notorious for getting there three 00:04:22.949 --> 00:04:25.430 to four hours before his tee time. And then what's 00:04:25.430 --> 00:04:26.769 the other part of that, T -Mac? On the other 00:04:26.769 --> 00:04:29.180 side, after they play golf. Do they go in and 00:04:29.180 --> 00:04:32.420 have a beer and go home? No. Those days are done, 00:04:32.519 --> 00:04:35.399 aren't they? Right, right. Yeah, they're going 00:04:35.399 --> 00:04:37.779 to go back into the weight room. They're going 00:04:37.779 --> 00:04:39.379 to go hit more balls. They're going to go make 00:04:39.379 --> 00:04:43.660 more putts. So, yeah, I mean, for the wintertime, 00:04:43.740 --> 00:04:45.579 trying to keep the scope of this conversation 00:04:45.579 --> 00:04:48.879 to kind of like what can you do in the off time, 00:04:49.040 --> 00:04:53.319 you know, in your own house, in the local gym. 00:04:53.800 --> 00:04:55.439 What are some of the things that you can do? 00:04:55.519 --> 00:04:57.199 And the things that I've found, and I'll let 00:04:57.199 --> 00:05:01.279 you add in here, for me, there's so much good 00:05:01.279 --> 00:05:04.600 information out there on whatever social media 00:05:04.600 --> 00:05:07.259 platform you want to use. Instagram, Facebook, 00:05:07.500 --> 00:05:10.699 those are kind of my two that I go to. And you 00:05:10.699 --> 00:05:13.839 can start following people. Usually they're pretty 00:05:13.839 --> 00:05:17.019 hot. russian girls that are doing these things 00:05:17.019 --> 00:05:19.560 like okay you know like they're just always in 00:05:19.560 --> 00:05:22.819 good shape i mean i'm looking for and it's just 00:05:22.819 --> 00:05:25.360 like ai in general like you start you look at 00:05:25.360 --> 00:05:27.519 a few ab workouts and all of a sudden you get 00:05:27.519 --> 00:05:29.699 fed more ab workouts and things that are going 00:05:29.699 --> 00:05:32.839 to keep your core stronger absolutely and that's 00:05:32.839 --> 00:05:35.639 stability in the golf swing and i don't think 00:05:35.639 --> 00:05:37.699 it's it's talked about but it's sort of not like 00:05:37.699 --> 00:05:41.860 i don't really focus on it with my you know students 00:05:41.860 --> 00:05:45.920 as much as i should It is so important, and we 00:05:45.920 --> 00:05:49.980 see it in their body types, right? There is no 00:05:49.980 --> 00:05:52.879 more Craig Stadler. There is no more John Daly 00:05:52.879 --> 00:05:56.439 on tour anymore. No. I mean, I think Aldrich 00:05:56.439 --> 00:05:59.240 Podrick is kind of an outlier, to be honest with 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:03.120 you. Yeah, he is, but he's also 20. Correct, 00:06:03.379 --> 00:06:05.680 correct. He can get away with it, right? Yeah. 00:06:06.060 --> 00:06:10.480 So, I mean, David Duvall, I'm going back in time 00:06:10.480 --> 00:06:13.699 here a little bit, but he was heavy. heavy quote 00:06:13.699 --> 00:06:15.720 unquote heavy but he got in good shape and he 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:19.040 also struck the ball better which is so the point 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:23.120 being like you find your thing go and it doesn't 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:26.459 have to be a 45 minute workout it can be it's 00:06:26.459 --> 00:06:29.720 amazing what you can do isometrically 15 minutes 00:06:29.720 --> 00:06:32.160 on your living room floor and you'll work up 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:36.170 a sweat yeah Absolutely. P90X, I mean, those 00:06:36.170 --> 00:06:38.649 chair exercises, I mean, they basically have 00:06:38.649 --> 00:06:40.949 you with a chair in your living room and you're 00:06:40.949 --> 00:06:43.990 sweating. You can find anything, but you're absolutely 00:06:43.990 --> 00:06:47.189 right. A lot of our students that we see, they 00:06:47.189 --> 00:06:51.310 have core instability, weak muscles in certain 00:06:51.310 --> 00:06:54.329 areas that we need them to exercise. And to be 00:06:54.329 --> 00:06:56.430 honest with you, it's tough for us as instructors. 00:06:57.279 --> 00:06:59.959 or the student self that they can't make that 00:06:59.959 --> 00:07:02.120 movement because their body won't allow it. So 00:07:02.120 --> 00:07:04.959 the importance of getting into the gym, isolating 00:07:04.959 --> 00:07:08.259 those certain areas that, that need to be worked 00:07:08.259 --> 00:07:10.360 on in the core is the biggest part. I mean, if 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:11.959 there's anything you could do is just get up, 00:07:11.980 --> 00:07:16.079 do some sit -ups that you'll see your, your game 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:17.959 go tremendously because then you're starting 00:07:17.959 --> 00:07:21.060 to create that, that, that super engine that, 00:07:21.139 --> 00:07:22.959 that creates the golf swing, to be honest with 00:07:22.959 --> 00:07:26.220 you, which is the core. So what I see on, on, 00:07:26.889 --> 00:07:29.430 I don't do TikTok, but Instagram, Facebook, what 00:07:29.430 --> 00:07:31.529 I see for the most part, and again, the things 00:07:31.529 --> 00:07:34.949 that are fed to me are rotational drills. I think 00:07:34.949 --> 00:07:38.569 that's just, again, super underrated. There's 00:07:38.569 --> 00:07:41.430 just the straight flexibility that Rory has. 00:07:41.870 --> 00:07:43.870 You can't give that to everybody in the world. 00:07:43.910 --> 00:07:46.529 They don't have that God -given talent to be 00:07:46.529 --> 00:07:49.529 able to rotate his shoulders. And Tiger had this 00:07:49.529 --> 00:07:55.899 better than most. Yeah. So you got to go work 00:07:55.899 --> 00:07:57.879 at it. You got to go and it doesn't happen overnight. 00:07:57.959 --> 00:08:01.680 It takes weeks to kind of get your rotation of 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:05.399 your right shoulder, you know, wider, longer. 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:08.060 And I don't want to be the expert here because 00:08:08.060 --> 00:08:10.339 I'm not the expert, but you can go look up the, 00:08:10.360 --> 00:08:14.500 look these things up, find, find people that 00:08:14.500 --> 00:08:17.180 you like. I make a joke about the hot Russian 00:08:17.180 --> 00:08:19.480 girl, but at the same time, I'd rather watch 00:08:19.480 --> 00:08:24.259 a girl do a workout video than a boy. So, you 00:08:24.259 --> 00:08:27.600 know, I follow more of the 20 to 30 year old 00:08:27.600 --> 00:08:30.579 women that are doing workout videos. Hey, whatever 00:08:30.579 --> 00:08:33.940 keeps your mind engaged into the exercises is 00:08:33.940 --> 00:08:37.360 absolutely, you know, what you want to do. What 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:42.080 do you have some certain exercises that you constantly 00:08:42.080 --> 00:08:45.000 do indoors? I mean, you have access to a golf 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:48.600 simulator, which is which is very cool. But is 00:08:48.600 --> 00:08:52.179 there some exercises that you typically do indoors? 00:08:53.019 --> 00:08:57.200 I try to get to Planet Fitness at one of the 00:08:57.200 --> 00:09:00.559 local gyms four times a week. During the summer, 00:09:00.600 --> 00:09:03.259 it's less because I just don't have the opportunity 00:09:03.259 --> 00:09:07.019 or time. When the 12 -hour days are coming, I 00:09:07.019 --> 00:09:10.480 don't want to add the 13th hour to it. So now, 00:09:10.659 --> 00:09:13.379 again, kind of refocusing now, I usually break 00:09:13.379 --> 00:09:15.960 it up into about 15 minutes of stretching, just 00:09:15.960 --> 00:09:18.919 pure stretching, plenty of different sort of 00:09:18.919 --> 00:09:23.409 yoga moves to that, downward dog. sun salutations 00:09:23.409 --> 00:09:26.789 uh definitely like there's a uh one's called 00:09:26.789 --> 00:09:29.950 frog which is just really you're on you're on 00:09:29.950 --> 00:09:31.710 the ground and you're trying to you get your 00:09:31.710 --> 00:09:34.549 knees stretched out you know like like in a frog 00:09:34.549 --> 00:09:36.289 position and you're just trying to open up your 00:09:36.289 --> 00:09:39.110 hips right that's such a such an important part 00:09:39.110 --> 00:09:41.610 of the flexibility so anything can do where you 00:09:41.610 --> 00:09:43.549 where again you're on the ground on your back 00:09:44.669 --> 00:09:47.929 keep your knees bent so the feet are on the floor, 00:09:47.990 --> 00:09:49.549 but then you take your right leg and kind of 00:09:49.549 --> 00:09:52.629 cross it over your left leg. Those are some fundamental 00:09:52.629 --> 00:09:55.289 stuff that, again, we were doing in basketball 00:09:55.289 --> 00:09:58.570 and baseball and stuff. So anything to keep the 00:09:58.570 --> 00:10:02.070 hips more open, more flexible. So that's kind 00:10:02.070 --> 00:10:04.090 of the flexibility part. Then I'll go into about 00:10:04.090 --> 00:10:07.009 15 minutes of kind of strength training. And 00:10:07.009 --> 00:10:10.259 for my world at 54 years old, that's taken. kind 00:10:10.259 --> 00:10:12.679 of like a 10 to maybe 15 pound weight, probably 00:10:12.679 --> 00:10:15.039 a 10 pound weight. I really like some of these 00:10:15.039 --> 00:10:17.039 ones where it's kind of like you take it from, 00:10:17.100 --> 00:10:19.460 let's say you're standing, you got the weight 00:10:19.460 --> 00:10:21.559 in kind of your, in your hands. It's kind of 00:10:21.559 --> 00:10:23.940 by your waist, like by your left waist. And you 00:10:23.940 --> 00:10:27.580 basically would chop it up across your body to 00:10:27.580 --> 00:10:29.399 your right shoulder. Yeah. And you're trying 00:10:29.399 --> 00:10:31.039 to get some stretching. And again, that's such 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:34.639 good, like interior ab work or on the, you know, 00:10:34.639 --> 00:10:36.779 on the, uh, working on that cross crawl pattern 00:10:36.779 --> 00:10:39.320 a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Right. 00:10:39.710 --> 00:10:42.149 So, and I'll do 10, you know, 10, 10 reps of 00:10:42.149 --> 00:10:44.429 that. And it doesn't have, it's not the weight. 00:10:44.509 --> 00:10:46.490 It's about the flexibility with the weight of 00:10:46.490 --> 00:10:50.450 it. And then sort of the last thing I sort of 00:10:50.450 --> 00:10:52.450 always end up doing is probably 20 minutes of 00:10:52.450 --> 00:10:55.230 cardio. And just to keep, that's kind of the 00:10:55.230 --> 00:10:56.990 54 years old. That's kind of looking at the long 00:10:56.990 --> 00:10:59.029 -term stuff, keep the heart rate going, whatever. 00:10:59.169 --> 00:11:02.250 So when you do end up playing golf, you're playing 00:11:02.250 --> 00:11:03.889 18 holes. And even though you're in a cart, you 00:11:03.889 --> 00:11:06.669 don't get as tired as you would if you were just 00:11:06.669 --> 00:11:10.159 kind of not doing that. Um, that's a little mini 00:11:10.159 --> 00:11:12.460 microcosm of sort of what I do, but everybody's 00:11:12.460 --> 00:11:15.340 going to find their own. Um, you know, if you 00:11:15.340 --> 00:11:18.440 have the ability and the money to go, go to some 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:20.799 of these like stretch lab places, I think that's 00:11:20.799 --> 00:11:22.960 an amazing thing. Have you ever tried one of 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:26.019 those? Uh, no, I, I, I've gone to a chiropractor 00:11:26.019 --> 00:11:27.840 a couple of times, so I haven't gone to any of 00:11:27.840 --> 00:11:30.120 these stretch labs. So I'm, I'm excited to get 00:11:30.120 --> 00:11:32.580 into one of those where they're, they're designed 00:11:32.580 --> 00:11:35.200 for golf. So yeah, I've been hearing about it 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:36.700 and I've got a buddy that's working at one, so 00:11:36.700 --> 00:11:39.120 I need to get on over to him, but. Have you had 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:41.580 an experience with one yet? Yeah, down in the 00:11:41.580 --> 00:11:43.980 Brandon area, Bloomingdale area, when I was doing 00:11:43.980 --> 00:11:46.419 kind of the Chamber of Commerce for Valrico, 00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:48.919 there was a guy there who just kind of opened 00:11:48.919 --> 00:11:51.519 one up at the corner of Lithia Pinecrest down 00:11:51.519 --> 00:11:56.840 by an old store. And you just can't stretch as 00:11:56.840 --> 00:11:58.860 well as somebody else can stretch you. Again, 00:11:59.000 --> 00:12:03.730 look at the professional athletes. Baseball players, 00:12:03.830 --> 00:12:07.590 you go there an hour before a game and you see 00:12:07.590 --> 00:12:12.070 them just being stretched by the trainers. To 00:12:12.070 --> 00:12:14.190 be able to put your leg up in the air, great. 00:12:14.269 --> 00:12:16.590 We can kind of pull it with a towel. We can pull 00:12:16.590 --> 00:12:19.049 it with our arms towards us type of thing. When 00:12:19.049 --> 00:12:21.570 you get another person to kind of push on that, 00:12:21.730 --> 00:12:25.169 and we'll kind of get to that, whatever the flexibility 00:12:25.169 --> 00:12:27.470 is, let's say you can't get to 90, that's fine. 00:12:27.549 --> 00:12:30.470 But if you can get to 70 degrees, and the thing 00:12:30.470 --> 00:12:32.559 about that T -Mac is... two weeks from now you 00:12:32.559 --> 00:12:34.620 can get to 75 degrees and then you kind of keep 00:12:34.620 --> 00:12:37.899 working for 90 right like absolutely absolutely 00:12:37.899 --> 00:12:40.360 i i can i can remember in baseball you always 00:12:40.360 --> 00:12:43.340 went out with with two people right it was you 00:12:43.340 --> 00:12:45.419 and a partner right and you're you're stretching 00:12:45.419 --> 00:12:47.299 out the hamstrings like you're talking about 00:12:47.299 --> 00:12:49.279 you know you can remember you can see those guys 00:12:49.279 --> 00:12:51.519 out at spring training the guy's got his his 00:12:51.519 --> 00:12:53.139 leg high in the air and the other guy's stretching 00:12:53.139 --> 00:12:56.929 him out i mean it's just You know, you do, you 00:12:56.929 --> 00:13:00.090 get more of a stretch by using a, having a partner 00:13:00.090 --> 00:13:02.710 to help you to get those things or having a trainer 00:13:02.710 --> 00:13:05.210 or something like that. You're absolutely right. 00:13:05.289 --> 00:13:07.409 You just can't get to those positions without 00:13:07.409 --> 00:13:11.190 having that external help. I think the way to 00:13:11.190 --> 00:13:13.450 sort of sum this topic up here is, you know, 00:13:13.450 --> 00:13:17.840 go do your research. Maybe, you know, you and 00:13:17.840 --> 00:13:20.519 I, we can probably do another podcast specifically 00:13:20.519 --> 00:13:23.539 just on this part of this golf world here. Yeah. 00:13:23.639 --> 00:13:25.519 And maybe start bringing the listeners, some 00:13:25.519 --> 00:13:27.039 of the guys that we follow, some of the girls 00:13:27.039 --> 00:13:29.399 that we follow. That might be helpful for them. 00:13:29.419 --> 00:13:31.620 Maybe we can post some of that, you know, on 00:13:31.620 --> 00:13:34.720 our YouTube channel type of thing. But I think 00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:37.690 it's just. Just do it. Just go do something. 00:13:37.769 --> 00:13:40.769 Go do something for 10 minutes a day, and that'll 00:13:40.769 --> 00:13:43.809 turn into 15 minutes a day, and you'll build 00:13:43.809 --> 00:13:46.450 a good habit. What would you suggest for our 00:13:46.450 --> 00:13:53.750 listeners, a couple of followers, two or three 00:13:53.750 --> 00:13:58.149 that you follow that they could see who they 00:13:58.149 --> 00:14:01.970 are? as the rabbit hole is, it always spins you 00:14:01.970 --> 00:14:03.990 off into another direction to another person. 00:14:04.009 --> 00:14:05.769 But who would you kind of have somebody start 00:14:05.769 --> 00:14:08.110 you off, you know, to kind of take a look at? 00:14:08.149 --> 00:14:10.950 Yeah. Uh, I'm going to give you one for me. It's, 00:14:10.950 --> 00:14:14.870 uh, the girl's name is Haley Madigan, H -A -L 00:14:14.870 --> 00:14:20.610 -Y, H -A -Y -L -E -Y Madigan on Instagram. Actually 00:14:20.610 --> 00:14:22.470 on Facebook is where I'm kind of following her. 00:14:22.629 --> 00:14:28.059 Okay. Um, just again. She is the epitome of a 00:14:28.059 --> 00:14:30.600 person who's in good shape, but she also does 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:33.679 exercises that you can actually do. You don't 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:38.399 feel like you can't do this type of thing. I 00:14:38.399 --> 00:14:43.720 like her. The other one I would say is Christina 00:14:43.720 --> 00:14:48.240 Fit is her tag name. C -H -R -I -S -T -I -N -A 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:54.779 Fit. Those are two that I really follow. I got 00:14:54.779 --> 00:14:56.980 one more and this one's a little more hardcore 00:14:56.980 --> 00:14:59.639 and that's why she's good at it. But, uh, Sandy 00:14:59.639 --> 00:15:08.139 Sklar X fit. So it'd be S A N D Y S K L A R X 00:15:08.139 --> 00:15:11.480 F I T. Okay. Uh, and I tried some of her stuff 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:13.919 and she does, she, she does a bunch of stuff, 00:15:13.940 --> 00:15:18.039 but like legs and sort of, um, that core again, 00:15:18.100 --> 00:15:20.700 core muscle groups, but kind of more squat related. 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:23.440 Gotcha. You don't realize how important that 00:15:23.440 --> 00:15:27.120 is to be able to fire your hips, activate your 00:15:27.120 --> 00:15:29.960 glutes through the golf swing, turn your rotational 00:15:29.960 --> 00:15:34.419 part of your lower body. T -Mac, what is the 00:15:34.419 --> 00:15:37.379 number one thing people come to us? I would say, 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:39.200 I mean, hopefully you get this answer right. 00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:42.960 I want to hit the ball blank with driver. Oh, 00:15:42.960 --> 00:15:45.740 it's always they want to sink putts, isn't it? 00:15:47.049 --> 00:15:51.129 I know. Absolutely. They want more distance. 00:15:51.190 --> 00:15:54.429 They want to hit it further. That's right. That's 00:15:54.429 --> 00:15:57.470 what I'm saying. They want to bomb the ball. 00:15:57.610 --> 00:15:59.990 And the big thing that we see with the vertical 00:15:59.990 --> 00:16:03.610 studies is whatever vertical force you can put 00:16:03.610 --> 00:16:06.490 into the ground and lift up against, right, how 00:16:06.490 --> 00:16:09.029 much your vertical leap is is determined how 00:16:09.029 --> 00:16:11.389 far you can hit the ball. And a lot of people 00:16:11.389 --> 00:16:14.389 get lost in the arm swing and chest rotation. 00:16:14.470 --> 00:16:16.870 And that does help. But, you know, if you look 00:16:16.870 --> 00:16:19.730 at Rory McIlroy's vertical, you know, downward 00:16:19.730 --> 00:16:22.649 pressure into the ground, it's off the charts. 00:16:23.500 --> 00:16:25.899 being able to squat and open up your hips and 00:16:25.899 --> 00:16:29.639 vertically jump is a huge part to club distance, 00:16:29.840 --> 00:16:35.059 you know, distance. And that might be, that might 00:16:35.059 --> 00:16:38.080 be too much for our listeners, but at the same 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:41.399 time, like work towards it. Like they don't, 00:16:41.399 --> 00:16:44.500 you know, that's a, it's a grid point. Me and 00:16:44.500 --> 00:16:47.700 Scott Johnson are still continually working on 00:16:47.700 --> 00:16:50.080 that part of the game. We see younger players 00:16:50.080 --> 00:16:53.100 at our club who just bomb it and they have that, 00:16:53.399 --> 00:16:56.139 push off the ground feel that it's always kind 00:16:56.139 --> 00:16:58.039 of we used to call it posted right you're going 00:16:58.039 --> 00:17:00.679 to post up against your left side yeah this is 00:17:00.679 --> 00:17:03.039 this is a different generation they're you know 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:06.400 they're moving me and scott and kyle were talking 00:17:06.400 --> 00:17:08.539 about this yesterday like how does how does rory 00:17:08.539 --> 00:17:11.400 on his downswing of his driver if you watch him 00:17:11.400 --> 00:17:14.380 in slow motion again go go youtube this one easily 00:17:14.380 --> 00:17:19.059 rory picks up his left heel on his downswing 00:17:19.059 --> 00:17:25.400 with driver replants it basically towards the 00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:28.099 target, but in like an angle that you wouldn't 00:17:28.099 --> 00:17:31.140 think would be working. He's not opening up lateral. 00:17:31.180 --> 00:17:33.180 He's actually going the other way internally, 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:37.940 rotating that left hip to be able to get ready 00:17:37.940 --> 00:17:41.920 to push off the ground. And again, it's hard 00:17:41.920 --> 00:17:44.160 to explain through, you know, podcast world, 00:17:44.299 --> 00:17:50.019 but if you look to go YouTube. rory driver downswing 00:17:50.019 --> 00:17:52.180 left heel you'll see it what we're talking about 00:17:52.180 --> 00:17:54.720 but it's those little micro movements that you're 00:17:54.720 --> 00:17:57.660 talking about that just you know unfortunately 00:17:57.660 --> 00:18:01.839 our our common students just can't make or don't 00:18:01.839 --> 00:18:04.960 have the time or the ability to do that and those 00:18:04.960 --> 00:18:07.440 are the little things that give them the extra 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:10.099 zip that you know those are the things that make 00:18:10.099 --> 00:18:14.240 rory so long does that make sense i think i think 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:17.559 part of it this is a good kind of maybe ender 00:18:17.559 --> 00:18:20.220 to this part of it because again we we get into 00:18:20.220 --> 00:18:21.980 these things we get going which is what i love 00:18:21.980 --> 00:18:24.599 about doing these things with you is that um 00:18:24.599 --> 00:18:27.259 they don't know what they don't know people don't 00:18:27.259 --> 00:18:30.319 know what they don't know yeah like we just expect 00:18:30.319 --> 00:18:32.740 people to know certain things about the golf 00:18:32.740 --> 00:18:35.480 swing like of course you would start the downswing 00:18:35.480 --> 00:18:39.119 with your lower body and people don't right no 00:18:39.119 --> 00:18:41.039 they don't they start it with their arms and 00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:42.400 their hands because they're trying to lift it 00:18:43.389 --> 00:18:45.809 And it's such a fundamental thing to me and you, 00:18:45.950 --> 00:18:49.990 but they don't, they don't. So if you don't know 00:18:49.990 --> 00:18:51.910 what you're even trying to work towards, that's 00:18:51.910 --> 00:18:53.730 our job as the instructor is, okay, there could 00:18:53.730 --> 00:18:56.690 be 10 things wrong. I can't give you 10. I got 00:18:56.690 --> 00:18:59.589 to give you two. You might be so far away from 00:18:59.589 --> 00:19:02.309 thinking about vertical ground force on the downswing 00:19:02.309 --> 00:19:04.410 because you're not even close to the. how the 00:19:04.410 --> 00:19:06.069 arms are supposed to be at the top of your back 00:19:06.069 --> 00:19:10.730 first. Correct. Correct. You know, yeah, that's, 00:19:10.730 --> 00:19:13.210 that's a big part is making sure that your body's 00:19:13.210 --> 00:19:17.509 in a position to, to get into that. You know 00:19:17.509 --> 00:19:20.650 what I mean? So it's, you know, and that's the 00:19:20.650 --> 00:19:22.109 thing is you're right. You'll, you'll have a 00:19:22.109 --> 00:19:24.369 student come to you. They'll have a list of 10 00:19:24.369 --> 00:19:26.009 things, but you've got to kind of do a little 00:19:26.009 --> 00:19:28.450 triage. What's the most, what's the, the, the 00:19:28.450 --> 00:19:31.069 biggest thing we can fix today that can lead 00:19:31.069 --> 00:19:33.529 to maybe one or two other things down the chain. 00:19:34.059 --> 00:19:36.500 kind of wrinkling itself out a little bit and 00:19:36.500 --> 00:19:38.880 most of the time it's not what the student wants 00:19:38.880 --> 00:19:42.019 to work on but you know you got to kind of give 00:19:42.019 --> 00:19:44.039 them the medicine that they require not the one 00:19:44.039 --> 00:19:47.920 they want yeah so you know again good good kind 00:19:47.920 --> 00:19:50.160 of like wrap up like i love what you said is 00:19:50.160 --> 00:19:52.400 when you get to the golf course you do some stretching 00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:55.400 You can do that stretching at the house, too. 00:19:55.500 --> 00:19:57.500 Like, you're not going to lose the stretch between 00:19:57.500 --> 00:20:00.619 the house and the first tee. No. But, you know, 00:20:00.660 --> 00:20:03.920 I like your jumping jacks. I like your moving, 00:20:03.980 --> 00:20:06.720 get moving, moving around. Mark Dunn, one of 00:20:06.720 --> 00:20:08.319 our good buddies down there in Tampa, he would 00:20:08.319 --> 00:20:10.000 always come to these events, like the Zephyrs 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:12.859 Open. Crump does the same thing, Ron Crump. Like, 00:20:12.900 --> 00:20:15.559 they would take the club in their forearm, right, 00:20:15.640 --> 00:20:18.119 and the arm would be extended. They'd rotate 00:20:18.119 --> 00:20:21.529 the right wrist and left wrist. to kind of get 00:20:21.529 --> 00:20:24.049 the wrist flexibility starting, those juices 00:20:24.049 --> 00:20:26.430 starting to be active. Yeah. Do you remember 00:20:26.430 --> 00:20:29.450 that? Like that's a random thing, but. Yeah, 00:20:29.490 --> 00:20:32.250 they would warm up their forearms. You know, 00:20:32.250 --> 00:20:34.250 I've even seen guys, you know, take the end of 00:20:34.250 --> 00:20:36.609 the club and warm up their calves. The ankle 00:20:36.609 --> 00:20:38.690 mobility is very important in the golf swing. 00:20:38.769 --> 00:20:42.549 I think that's completely neglected. Wrist, forearms, 00:20:42.569 --> 00:20:44.029 those are important in the swing if you want 00:20:44.029 --> 00:20:45.750 to close the club face. How many times do people 00:20:45.750 --> 00:20:47.670 leave the face wide open on the first swing? 00:20:48.089 --> 00:20:55.309 Yeah, so. I guess go do some research, figure 00:20:55.309 --> 00:20:58.369 it out, figure out what works for you, what you 00:20:58.369 --> 00:21:01.430 have time for in your life. Absolutely. I don't 00:21:01.430 --> 00:21:04.250 have to do a 60 -minute workout every day. I 00:21:04.250 --> 00:21:06.250 do what I can. If I can't get to it, I'll try 00:21:06.250 --> 00:21:08.769 to do 15 minutes on the living room floor. If 00:21:08.769 --> 00:21:13.430 not, I'm going to be at my shop stretching while 00:21:13.430 --> 00:21:16.460 I'm talking to a member like this. You can do 00:21:16.460 --> 00:21:19.480 stuff while you're throughout your day and get 00:21:19.480 --> 00:21:21.559 out, like you said, like get out of the seat, 00:21:21.619 --> 00:21:24.319 go stretch for 10 minutes, five minutes, whatever, 00:21:24.440 --> 00:21:26.700 and then go back into your chair. If you have 00:21:26.700 --> 00:21:30.099 to do work from home, I get it. Yeah. So I think 00:21:30.099 --> 00:21:32.799 that's a good way to kind of, you know, start 00:21:32.799 --> 00:21:34.940 the process of kind of getting back into the 00:21:34.940 --> 00:21:38.140 off season workout type of stuff. Let's, let's, 00:21:38.140 --> 00:21:39.940 you know, kind of see what the feedback is from 00:21:39.940 --> 00:21:43.140 the listeners. And then we'll go from there. 00:21:43.220 --> 00:21:48.059 But. Yeah, so I think our next topic is going 00:21:48.059 --> 00:21:50.140 to be just a great one for people to listen to. 00:21:50.720 --> 00:21:54.119 Excited about bringing this one to our listenership, 00:21:54.119 --> 00:21:56.660 and that's going to be our interview with Scott 00:21:56.660 --> 00:21:59.259 Johnson. So when we get back, we'll have Scott 00:21:59.259 --> 00:22:01.059 on with us, and we'll go from there. All right, 00:22:01.099 --> 00:22:05.940 sounds great. Stay tuned. Hi, welcome back, Dynamic 00:22:05.940 --> 00:22:08.440 listeners, Dynamic Golf listeners. We're excited 00:22:08.440 --> 00:22:11.740 to have you. Again, this is a topic that I think 00:22:11.740 --> 00:22:15.400 is really going to be kind of... Eye -opening 00:22:15.400 --> 00:22:18.940 to a lot of our students out there, our golfers. 00:22:19.700 --> 00:22:22.359 And it's really cool for the Oakley members that 00:22:22.359 --> 00:22:26.200 physically listen to this podcast to have Scott 00:22:26.200 --> 00:22:28.039 Johnson, our head golf professional at Oakley, 00:22:28.140 --> 00:22:31.480 on. Scott, how are you doing this morning? Doing 00:22:31.480 --> 00:22:34.299 great, Sean. Nice to be here. How many balls 00:22:34.299 --> 00:22:37.119 have you hit so far today, Scott? That's funny 00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:38.779 you say that, Sean. I was just in the backyard. 00:22:38.880 --> 00:22:42.200 Probably hit 30 balls in the net. Yep. Yeah. 00:22:42.519 --> 00:22:47.970 Nice. I'm addicted. CMAC, that's what we talked 00:22:47.970 --> 00:22:49.890 about, right? Absolutely. You've got to find 00:22:49.890 --> 00:22:52.329 some time to practice and hit a few balls, even 00:22:52.329 --> 00:22:56.329 if it's in the backyard, right? It's 30, 40 degrees 00:22:56.329 --> 00:22:59.710 out, but that's okay. Ooh, ooh, ooh, wow. Yeah. 00:23:00.190 --> 00:23:02.569 Yeah. We're going to play golf a little bit at 00:23:02.569 --> 00:23:05.289 CMAC, and that's why he's getting pressed to 00:23:05.289 --> 00:23:09.970 take more than he needs. And there you go. Well, 00:23:10.049 --> 00:23:13.609 very good. Very good. So, Scott, I heard recently 00:23:13.609 --> 00:23:16.470 you had a club fitting. Is that correct? Are 00:23:16.470 --> 00:23:18.410 you working on some new clubs that you got out 00:23:18.410 --> 00:23:19.970 there in the backyard? Is that what we're doing? 00:23:21.470 --> 00:23:24.009 It's a new technique. Yeah, Sean and I went down 00:23:24.009 --> 00:23:27.470 to our simulator about 10 days ago, Sean, right? 00:23:27.710 --> 00:23:30.150 Yeah, exactly. Just for 15 minutes, Scott. That 00:23:30.150 --> 00:23:32.609 was supposed to be what we told. That's exactly 00:23:32.609 --> 00:23:36.089 what I was going to say. We have a woman who 00:23:36.089 --> 00:23:37.670 works in our golf shop, Alyssa. I said, Alyssa, 00:23:37.730 --> 00:23:39.750 I've got three golf shafts. I'm going to grab 00:23:39.750 --> 00:23:41.089 Sean. We're going to be in the simulator for 00:23:41.089 --> 00:23:44.210 15 minutes. As she said, an hour and 40 minutes 00:23:44.210 --> 00:23:50.910 later, I came back infuriated, angry, enlightened, 00:23:51.029 --> 00:23:54.789 all of the above. Just, it was such a, Sean's 00:23:54.789 --> 00:23:56.589 really good at the track man part of it. And 00:23:56.589 --> 00:23:59.430 he walked me through some stuff and I'm thinking, 00:23:59.490 --> 00:24:01.430 I've got three shafts. It's pretty easy. I got 00:24:01.430 --> 00:24:05.450 a 55 gram stiff. I got a 65 gram stiff and I 00:24:05.450 --> 00:24:08.490 got a 60 gram X and I'm going through them and. 00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:12.259 What we really found out was by lightening the 00:24:12.259 --> 00:24:16.460 shaft 10 grams, miles per hour went up, what, 00:24:16.500 --> 00:24:19.400 three or four, Sean? Oh, at least. I mean, you 00:24:19.400 --> 00:24:22.480 got up to 106 with that 55 -gram shaft with driver. 00:24:23.059 --> 00:24:27.119 Right. What happened to the ball flight? Oh, 00:24:27.140 --> 00:24:29.000 sorry. Well, couldn't find it on the golf course. 00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:30.720 Couldn't find it on the grid. Traction was looking 00:24:30.720 --> 00:24:33.599 for it. Oh, wow. I couldn't play. I couldn't 00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:37.440 play that, possibly. So then we went back to 00:24:37.440 --> 00:24:41.920 my original 65 -gram shaft, and I was okay. And 00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:45.599 then for, you know, just to try it, trial and 00:24:45.599 --> 00:24:49.599 error, we tried the 50 -gram X. And now me, I'm 00:24:49.599 --> 00:24:52.880 50 years old, and the last thing I thought I 00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:54.900 would be looking for is an X, but it did definitely 00:24:54.900 --> 00:25:01.930 control the dispersion better. And I lost. probably 00:25:01.930 --> 00:25:03.829 three miles an hour. I was down to one Oh two 00:25:03.829 --> 00:25:06.390 or so. It's funny. I'm 60 years old. And just 00:25:06.390 --> 00:25:08.730 like everybody else, I'm looking for distance 00:25:08.730 --> 00:25:11.349 TMAC, just like everybody. I want to hit it further. 00:25:11.390 --> 00:25:14.650 I don't want to hit it short. So, so, you know, 00:25:14.670 --> 00:25:16.230 you're down there and we go through the whole 00:25:16.230 --> 00:25:20.390 thing. And what Sean, Sean was very polite, very 00:25:20.390 --> 00:25:22.950 politically correct. He's great at this. You 00:25:22.950 --> 00:25:25.349 know, Scott, it's really not the miles per hour. 00:25:25.390 --> 00:25:27.589 That's got you. He goes, it's your delivery. 00:25:28.940 --> 00:25:31.440 And that was really a nice way to say, hey, your 00:25:31.440 --> 00:25:34.579 attack angle really sucks. Gotcha. Which it did. 00:25:35.079 --> 00:25:38.779 Yeah. There's so many factors, right? That's 00:25:38.779 --> 00:25:40.119 kind of part of it. There's so many different 00:25:40.119 --> 00:25:45.039 factors. And you're trying to drill down on what's 00:25:45.039 --> 00:25:48.720 the most important factor of it. What was the 00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:50.619 angle of attack and what did it change there? 00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:55.259 Well, two things. First of all, before. We go 00:25:55.259 --> 00:25:59.079 down, TMAC, we go down with 65 and 55 stiff shafts. 00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:01.779 Right? Pretty simple. Hey, we're trying to get 00:26:01.779 --> 00:26:04.819 further. And he's the one who, after we hit the 00:26:04.819 --> 00:26:07.779 55 like eight times, and you can tell, you don't 00:26:07.779 --> 00:26:09.700 need a track man to hear this. You can tell by 00:26:09.700 --> 00:26:12.180 the sound, right? You can tell by, he's like, 00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:13.980 I'm hitting everything on the heel or whatever 00:26:13.980 --> 00:26:15.519 it was. It wasn't close to the center anymore 00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:19.940 because, yeah, he was gaining speed, not distance. 00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:22.369 He was gaining speed. But he wasn't gaining distance. 00:26:22.829 --> 00:26:25.730 Ball flight was higher. Spin rate was higher. 00:26:27.109 --> 00:26:28.970 Basically, the height of the golf ball at the 00:26:28.970 --> 00:26:31.150 apex was higher. It was all bad. It was like 00:26:31.150 --> 00:26:33.769 20 yards bad. And then he's the one who's like, 00:26:33.869 --> 00:26:36.630 you know, I got this X -Flex up in the shop. 00:26:36.750 --> 00:26:39.190 Maybe we'll grab that. And it's the perfect in 00:26:39.190 --> 00:26:41.369 -between because it still keeps the gram weight 00:26:41.369 --> 00:26:44.789 at 60 instead of 65. A little lower than what 00:26:44.789 --> 00:26:47.490 he's currently playing. But the dispersion rate 00:26:47.490 --> 00:26:51.880 of the shaft, he delivers it. so consistently 00:26:51.880 --> 00:26:56.440 well that when he goes to a stronger shaft, we'll 00:26:56.440 --> 00:27:00.799 call it, the ball flight is straighter. That's 00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:03.839 like one topic, right? Yeah, absolutely. The 00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:07.599 second topic is the attack angle, which we both 00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:12.079 have worked on for going on 15 years of it. He's 00:27:12.079 --> 00:27:14.319 gone for at least probably five years of it. 00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:17.220 But I think, Scott, when you first started, when 00:27:17.220 --> 00:27:19.000 you first before you even got to the attack angle, 00:27:19.690 --> 00:27:21.910 T -Mac too, when you're doing a fitting, you 00:27:21.910 --> 00:27:25.289 don't want to get into lesson world. Right. Correct. 00:27:26.789 --> 00:27:29.130 Correct. You can get lost in that soup for sure. 00:27:30.130 --> 00:27:33.130 Yeah. Yeah. Do we want to change the person's 00:27:33.130 --> 00:27:36.230 golf swing or are we just trying to fit them 00:27:36.230 --> 00:27:38.369 for the shaft? It's different. You know what 00:27:38.369 --> 00:27:41.869 I mean? I wanted, I wanted, I wanted the lesson, 00:27:41.890 --> 00:27:43.990 if you will. I wanted the interpretation of all 00:27:43.990 --> 00:27:47.160 the numbers to, so I could. I understood them, 00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:49.200 but I wanted to say, okay. And my line to Sean 00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:52.160 was after about an hour and a half, as I'm sweating 00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:56.200 profusely, I said, how do I fix it? I know what 00:27:56.200 --> 00:27:58.140 they are. How do I fix it? What do we got to 00:27:58.140 --> 00:28:00.140 do to fix it? And there were a couple of main 00:28:00.140 --> 00:28:03.779 things that really needed to change. And before 00:28:03.779 --> 00:28:06.000 we get into that part, my attack angle on the 00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:11.799 was, was it negative three to four. Okay. So 00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:13.599 I'm hitting down on it with the drive. Okay. 00:28:14.660 --> 00:28:18.440 Horrible. Yeah. Horrible. Great with irons. I'm 00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:20.980 a really good iron player. That's funny you say 00:28:20.980 --> 00:28:26.059 that. Yeah. But with the driver, it really, a 00:28:26.059 --> 00:28:28.480 bunch of things needed to change. And as we moved 00:28:28.480 --> 00:28:31.119 towards the end of the fitting slash lesson, 00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:36.240 we got it to basically one degree down. So that's 00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:38.299 an improvement. You know, is it where it needs 00:28:38.299 --> 00:28:41.039 to be? No. Am I ever going to be a positive? 00:28:41.140 --> 00:28:46.079 I doubt it. I can get better because, Sean, remember 00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:48.180 the track man graph you showed me? If I swing 00:28:48.180 --> 00:28:51.200 at 103 miles an hour, it should go off to one 00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:56.259 distance. It's 278. I'm hitting it 255. I'm not 00:28:56.259 --> 00:29:02.359 even close. Yeah. So as I'm looking it up and 00:29:02.359 --> 00:29:03.880 I was looking at the stuff as we're doing the 00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:07.019 lesson, like, you know, the PGA Tour player average 00:29:07.019 --> 00:29:10.250 is... negative one to negative three down. We 00:29:10.250 --> 00:29:13.529 always think it's a positive number with driver. 00:29:13.730 --> 00:29:17.490 But what we see on TV and long drive contests 00:29:17.490 --> 00:29:20.250 is the guys who are the other way, the positive, 00:29:20.329 --> 00:29:24.650 like breaking positive seven. Oh, wow. He's slinging 00:29:24.650 --> 00:29:27.049 so far up on the golf ball and long drive guys 00:29:27.049 --> 00:29:30.230 do that. But you don't, it's just the point of 00:29:30.230 --> 00:29:33.150 like, you can't, you can't expect to get the 00:29:33.150 --> 00:29:36.619 maximum distance with roll and carry. If you're 00:29:36.619 --> 00:29:38.339 negative three or negative four, you're just 00:29:38.339 --> 00:29:41.420 delivering it with too much spin. Is that a setup 00:29:41.420 --> 00:29:44.099 issue, Sean? I mean, or is it just a T issue? 00:29:44.339 --> 00:29:47.700 Or are we getting a little too... Very good. 00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:52.099 Very, very good. So, tracking has video attached 00:29:52.099 --> 00:29:54.839 to it. So, Sean puts me on video face -on and 00:29:54.839 --> 00:29:57.420 I'm looking at it. The ball position is pretty 00:29:57.420 --> 00:30:02.339 good, but my shoulder tilt slash spine angle 00:30:02.339 --> 00:30:05.400 tilt... And weight distribution, let's see, my 00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:10.880 weight distribution almost looked 55 front, 45 00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:12.619 back. So I looked like I was hitting an iron, 00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:17.319 basically. And my spine tilt was not nearly enough. 00:30:17.500 --> 00:30:20.839 Not nearly enough. He goes forward. He moves 00:30:20.839 --> 00:30:23.940 towards the target for the listener with his 00:30:23.940 --> 00:30:26.440 spine. And that's not what long ball hitters 00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:30.299 do. Keep going. They actually at impact are their 00:30:30.299 --> 00:30:33.529 head and... upper body are going backwards for 00:30:33.529 --> 00:30:36.130 a split second. It's amazing to watch in slow 00:30:36.130 --> 00:30:38.210 motion when they actually, as they're coming 00:30:38.210 --> 00:30:41.569 into impact, their spine and their head is going 00:30:41.569 --> 00:30:43.990 for a right -handed player, moving towards their 00:30:43.990 --> 00:30:46.509 right foot for a split second, and then they 00:30:46.509 --> 00:30:49.450 go through. Not me. I was going right to my left 00:30:49.450 --> 00:30:51.809 foot because in your whole life you've been taught 00:30:51.809 --> 00:30:53.630 you've got to finish left, you've got to get 00:30:53.630 --> 00:30:57.430 left. Well, that's after you make impact, not 00:30:57.430 --> 00:30:59.670 as you're coming into impact. It really made 00:30:59.670 --> 00:31:01.819 a huge difference. it's funny we came up with 00:31:01.819 --> 00:31:05.559 a i have a little bit of a strategy i'm putting 00:31:05.559 --> 00:31:08.359 the driver head approximately four to five inches 00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:11.539 behind the golf ball now and i'll tell you one 00:31:11.539 --> 00:31:13.880 sean you don't even know yet so that puts my 00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:17.180 head my spine tilt in a better angle away from 00:31:17.180 --> 00:31:20.059 the golf ball great helps me swing up on a little 00:31:20.059 --> 00:31:25.259 bit and what it did was take my right forearm 00:31:25.259 --> 00:31:29.589 and lower it So it's underneath my left forearm, 00:31:29.769 --> 00:31:33.470 which in all good players, you see. In bad players, 00:31:33.670 --> 00:31:36.730 you see, you never see their left forearm because 00:31:36.730 --> 00:31:38.849 their right arm dominates for a right -handed 00:31:38.849 --> 00:31:42.150 player. You know, for a good player, their right 00:31:42.150 --> 00:31:45.309 arm is underneath, if you will, or passive, and 00:31:45.309 --> 00:31:48.390 you see their left forearm. And I noticed that 00:31:48.390 --> 00:31:49.690 the other day when I was in the back, I meant 00:31:49.690 --> 00:31:50.990 to tell you this, Sean, when I was hitting balls 00:31:50.990 --> 00:31:53.410 in the net, because as we all know, I'm addicted. 00:31:53.589 --> 00:31:58.230 And when I put the driver there, you can... Absolutely 00:31:58.230 --> 00:32:00.769 see my right elbow almost has a little bit of 00:32:00.769 --> 00:32:06.630 a bend in it. Absolutely. It never did. So TMAC, 00:32:06.670 --> 00:32:09.170 that goes to literally our high school coach. 00:32:09.250 --> 00:32:11.750 His name was George Hennessy. He would come up, 00:32:11.789 --> 00:32:14.490 and I do this in so many lessons with driver. 00:32:14.670 --> 00:32:17.190 It's amazing. It doesn't show up in a pitching 00:32:17.190 --> 00:32:19.369 wedge or an eight iron, but your right elbow 00:32:19.369 --> 00:32:22.009 has to be bent. You know that, TMAC. Your left 00:32:22.009 --> 00:32:24.269 arm's got to be dominant. So if you're not set 00:32:24.269 --> 00:32:26.779 up properly at the beginning, This is why all 00:32:26.779 --> 00:32:29.160 these things matter. Like, why does that matter 00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:30.920 how I set up to the golf ball? Because you're 00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:33.640 going to deliver it that way. Yeah. So, you know, 00:32:33.660 --> 00:32:35.480 if your right arm's on top from the down the 00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:37.880 line view, you're behind, you know, you're with 00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:39.940 the students hitting the golf ball, you're behind 00:32:39.940 --> 00:32:42.859 them, you're looking down range. And if you can't 00:32:42.859 --> 00:32:45.660 see their left forearm from the setup, you're 00:32:45.660 --> 00:32:49.980 done. You're done. Yep. There's almost no way 00:32:49.980 --> 00:32:53.940 to hit an inside out shot from that position. 00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:58.059 It just doesn't work. It doesn't work. So for 00:32:58.059 --> 00:33:00.240 those things, you kind of hit on his arm a little 00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:01.759 bit. Is that what you kind of do to get that 00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:03.700 right arm a little softer? Is that what you do, 00:33:03.799 --> 00:33:06.960 Sean? What I do with my students, I didn't do 00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:08.279 with Scott because I know he's working on this 00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:12.299 specifically. It's funny, his lag, he gets the 00:33:12.299 --> 00:33:15.059 club behind him. He does such a good job on his 00:33:15.059 --> 00:33:18.380 downswing. His downswing is always shallower 00:33:18.380 --> 00:33:21.539 than his backswing, and that's why he's such 00:33:21.539 --> 00:33:24.259 a consistent ball striker. So he's got that. 00:33:24.539 --> 00:33:26.779 kind of crook in his right elbow on downswing. 00:33:26.880 --> 00:33:31.240 But the fact, and we had a range session TMAC 00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:35.200 two months ago up at a golf course in Georgetown. 00:33:35.420 --> 00:33:39.559 Yeah. And we were both just ripping draws. Like 00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:41.740 we had the right foot so far behind the left 00:33:41.740 --> 00:33:44.640 foot, right hip, everything was designed to make 00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:48.160 it draw. Yeah. And killing it. And we, you know, 00:33:48.180 --> 00:33:49.799 go back to our normal valve swings and don't 00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:56.220 do it. Yeah. It's easier to do it on the range 00:33:56.220 --> 00:33:58.079 because, as we all know, there's no consequence. 00:33:58.420 --> 00:34:00.420 You don't have to play the mishit range ball. 00:34:00.900 --> 00:34:02.640 You hit it right, you hit it left, who cares? 00:34:02.819 --> 00:34:05.380 You just tee up another one. Now, with that being 00:34:05.380 --> 00:34:08.860 said, the range is absolutely the most important 00:34:08.860 --> 00:34:11.260 part when you're relearning things. And for me, 00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:14.960 that's why I'm in the net. And Sean, I literally 00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:17.440 will come home from work and see my wife, and 00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:19.320 she'll be in the kitchen, and I'll be like, I'll 00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:20.960 be right back, and I will walk in my backyard 00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:24.389 and hit 10 or 20. 30 golf balls and then come 00:34:24.389 --> 00:34:28.210 back in. And it's, it's a, I don't know, like 00:34:28.210 --> 00:34:31.769 a, it's a release for me. And it's a, it's what 00:34:31.769 --> 00:34:34.610 I want to do. I love, I absolutely am. I love 00:34:34.610 --> 00:34:38.570 golf. It's ridiculous. It really looks like that's 00:34:38.570 --> 00:34:39.969 what I say to people. I'm like, it's therapeutic. 00:34:40.269 --> 00:34:44.909 I don't know how to tell you. Yeah. So before 00:34:44.909 --> 00:34:47.849 we wrap this up, we can talk to Scott about this 00:34:47.849 --> 00:34:49.210 forever. Hopefully we'll have him back about 00:34:49.210 --> 00:34:50.969 other things. Cause he's just such a good resource. 00:34:51.090 --> 00:34:52.780 And I think it's. I think it's great for the 00:34:52.780 --> 00:34:54.800 Oakley members to hear it because we talked about 00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:57.500 it individually as members walk in. Yeah. But 00:34:57.500 --> 00:34:59.800 to be able to kind of get this message out to 00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:02.679 everybody and get them to realize a few things. 00:35:02.739 --> 00:35:04.960 First of all, you don't know what you don't know. 00:35:05.059 --> 00:35:06.800 You think you know stuff. You don't know stuff. 00:35:06.900 --> 00:35:08.380 We talked about that in the last segment. Yeah. 00:35:09.340 --> 00:35:12.360 You don't even know what you're working on. Correct. 00:35:12.659 --> 00:35:14.719 That's what me, Scott, and Kyle, and Garen are 00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:18.920 good at. We can identify this much quicker than 00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:22.840 you can through YouTube. So there's that. And 00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:25.559 then the other part of this is, Scott, we played 00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:28.340 Kernwood two weeks ago. What'd you shoot? I shot 00:35:28.340 --> 00:35:31.760 70. Perfect. Nice. What'd you shoot at Lake Winnipesaukee 00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:37.099 a month ago? Two rounds? I shot 75 -70. Yeah. 00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:39.119 Okay. Nice. I don't need to say anything. Do 00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:42.019 I team that? Click. Well, I mean, I think the 00:35:42.019 --> 00:35:43.940 big thing I take out of this is for the Oakley 00:35:43.940 --> 00:35:46.619 members is even your, even your head pro assistant 00:35:46.619 --> 00:35:49.980 pros are still working on, on parts of their 00:35:49.980 --> 00:35:52.119 game. And I think the bigger part is, is that 00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:55.179 even at any level, go get a lesson, right? I 00:35:55.179 --> 00:35:57.320 mean, don't be afraid to ask your, you know, 00:35:57.340 --> 00:35:59.940 your fellow pro or assistant say, Hey, I need 00:35:59.940 --> 00:36:02.199 help with my swing. Can you look at it? And you 00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:03.760 can see with the results that you're getting 00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:06.880 over there that it's, it's good stuff. A hundred 00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:09.579 percent. It's a hundred percent, but. You know, 00:36:09.579 --> 00:36:13.320 many of us think we're good or pretty good players. 00:36:13.559 --> 00:36:16.420 We really don't need help. You know what? There's 00:36:16.420 --> 00:36:18.400 a couple of things that, you know, one, definitely 00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:22.079 come see one of us or ask for help. And the second 00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:24.639 part is everybody's got a phone. Video doesn't 00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:26.699 lie. And when you start to see things on video 00:36:26.699 --> 00:36:30.320 and, you know, you – how many – Sean, how many 00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:31.820 people send you a video and say, look at this? 00:36:32.099 --> 00:36:33.800 And you'll be at home and you'll be looking at 00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:37.239 a member's swing from home going, oh. Yeah, we've 00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:38.760 got to get together and fix this with a couple 00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:42.659 items. It's just video is video. That's why everybody 00:36:42.659 --> 00:36:45.039 pretty much, T -Mac, swings almost the same now. 00:36:45.219 --> 00:36:48.860 Like every young player coming up, they're copying 00:36:48.860 --> 00:36:51.420 what they see, and they're seeing the best of 00:36:51.420 --> 00:36:54.579 the best. Yeah, video helps. Yeah, I agree with 00:36:54.579 --> 00:36:57.780 that completely. You can't hide from it, bottom 00:36:57.780 --> 00:37:00.630 line. I'm going to, I'm going to end this with 00:37:00.630 --> 00:37:03.070 saying one last thing I did tell Scott when we 00:37:03.070 --> 00:37:04.670 were kind of going through the, cause I didn't 00:37:04.670 --> 00:37:06.849 know if these questions were rhetorical PMAC 00:37:06.849 --> 00:37:08.929 when he was yelling at me, like, what do I do? 00:37:09.030 --> 00:37:11.929 How do I fix it? How do I get better? And I'm 00:37:11.929 --> 00:37:13.630 like a little intimidated by him still. Cause 00:37:13.630 --> 00:37:16.010 he's still like my 12 year old idol. Like I was, 00:37:16.110 --> 00:37:18.730 he was good when he was 17, I was 12 and I'm 00:37:18.730 --> 00:37:20.269 like, he's still really good. And I don't want 00:37:20.269 --> 00:37:23.570 to fix, I don't want to mess him up. But so I 00:37:23.570 --> 00:37:25.590 said this before in the podcast, reading the 00:37:25.590 --> 00:37:30.059 book. uh about byron nelson i mean 1954 he his 00:37:30.059 --> 00:37:32.719 statement it was with driver he's trying to keep 00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:36.039 his head behind his right knee at delivery okay 00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:38.559 wow go take that listener yeah everybody should 00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:40.579 think about that one that makes a huge difference 00:37:40.579 --> 00:37:42.679 yeah that's a that's a different way of looking 00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:45.300 at it um that's great that's wow didn't even 00:37:45.300 --> 00:37:48.260 think about that right no track man no nothing 00:37:48.260 --> 00:37:51.659 like they knew this is a new stuff it's not sean 00:37:51.659 --> 00:37:53.579 and scott and tim's new philosophy on how to 00:37:53.579 --> 00:37:56.880 say the golf ball You know, if you kept your 00:37:56.880 --> 00:37:59.119 head behind your right knee as you deliver the 00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:01.280 golf club with driver, you would swing up on 00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:04.059 it, period. Yeah, the modern swing, everything 00:38:04.059 --> 00:38:06.260 that we're all built on now, for sure, absolutely. 00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:08.679 Yeah, yeah. Well, then you go figure out how 00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:11.039 to do that and make the ball go straight. That's 00:38:11.039 --> 00:38:13.719 a different conversation. But anyway, so, hey, 00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:16.000 Scott, I really appreciate you coming on with 00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:18.099 us and look forward to talking to you more about 00:38:18.099 --> 00:38:19.579 some of the different things that you keep working 00:38:19.579 --> 00:38:21.539 on, which is great. Yes. It's been my pleasure. 00:38:21.699 --> 00:38:24.099 Guess what, Sean? Unfortunately, we'll have to 00:38:24.099 --> 00:38:25.940 go back into the TrackMan world to see if we're 00:38:25.940 --> 00:38:29.300 making any progress. Can't lie. You can't hide 00:38:29.300 --> 00:38:32.059 from it. Nope. I can't. You got it. I'll pay 00:38:32.059 --> 00:38:33.519 a little bit. I'm bringing a lot of money today. 00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:35.320 Don't worry. I'm bringing a lot of money. I know. 00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:41.949 We'll see you later on. Thanks, Scott. All right. 00:38:42.230 --> 00:38:45.369 So welcome back, listeners. I think we had a 00:38:45.369 --> 00:38:48.030 good session today. We got some different feedback 00:38:48.030 --> 00:38:50.690 in two pretty important areas. First thing is 00:38:50.690 --> 00:38:54.329 really, what are you going to do to kind of get 00:38:54.329 --> 00:38:57.369 ready to go play golf, sort of in the long term 00:38:57.369 --> 00:38:59.710 and sort of the short term? We were talking more 00:38:59.710 --> 00:39:02.690 sort of long term, like, okay, you got some time 00:39:02.690 --> 00:39:04.670 throughout your winter time period or throughout 00:39:04.670 --> 00:39:07.489 your even nighttime when you guys are in Florida, 00:39:07.630 --> 00:39:12.840 up here in the north. You know, go do something. 00:39:12.940 --> 00:39:15.300 Go find your thing. Go find something that you 00:39:15.300 --> 00:39:19.400 like to do. I didn't mention this in the segment, 00:39:19.559 --> 00:39:23.760 TMAC, but, you know, when I'm hitting balls, 00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:25.380 when I'm putting, when I'm chipping, when I'm 00:39:25.380 --> 00:39:27.460 going to the gym, I always have headphones in 00:39:27.460 --> 00:39:29.340 and I'm always listening to music. And just the 00:39:29.340 --> 00:39:32.690 time goes by quicker. Yeah, just you kind of 00:39:32.690 --> 00:39:34.889 get into a flow state, right? You kind of turn 00:39:34.889 --> 00:39:37.829 the mind off a little bit. You let the body kind 00:39:37.829 --> 00:39:41.369 of take over. And it's kind of the state that 00:39:41.369 --> 00:39:43.210 we want to be in when we're out there on the 00:39:43.210 --> 00:39:46.230 course. So I think that's great. I think that's 00:39:46.230 --> 00:39:48.250 why some of the people kind of take the radios 00:39:48.250 --> 00:39:51.510 out there or the iPhones out there and listen 00:39:51.510 --> 00:39:53.389 to them. Now some of them get a little crazy, 00:39:53.409 --> 00:39:55.469 but I think you're right. I think you're trying 00:39:55.469 --> 00:39:58.809 to get into that flow state, right? Yeah. And 00:39:58.809 --> 00:40:01.409 then, and also occupy it for me when I'm working 00:40:01.409 --> 00:40:03.869 out at the gym, it's like, I'm not thinking about 00:40:03.869 --> 00:40:06.250 necessarily exactly the reps or whatever, because 00:40:06.250 --> 00:40:09.289 I'm listening to music or podcasts or whatever, 00:40:09.369 --> 00:40:12.590 whatever keeps you going to keep you involved 00:40:12.590 --> 00:40:15.969 in what you're trying to do. Yeah. I would say 00:40:15.969 --> 00:40:17.690 probably set a time on it. Like, Hey, I'm going 00:40:17.690 --> 00:40:19.809 to go to the gym. I'm going to, I'm going to 00:40:19.809 --> 00:40:21.920 be there for 30 minutes. I don't know what I'm 00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:23.880 going to do yet. I'm going to figure out. I might 00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:27.039 do 15 minutes on cardio. I might do 15 minutes 00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:30.480 stretching. But start, again, sort of incremental 00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:34.019 things. I'm going to go twice a week. Oh, hey, 00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:35.880 you know what? I kind of feel better mentally 00:40:35.880 --> 00:40:37.739 when I go. I'm probably going to go three times 00:40:37.739 --> 00:40:39.739 a week. I'm going to find time. Hey, you know 00:40:39.739 --> 00:40:42.599 what? To your point, we haven't talked about 00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:44.219 your weight loss journey. Maybe we'll do that 00:40:44.219 --> 00:40:46.500 in a future one. But maybe you don't eat the 00:40:46.500 --> 00:40:48.400 piece of cake at 8 o 'clock at night. Right. 00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:52.719 Maybe you find the apple. Put the food away. 00:40:52.860 --> 00:40:55.940 So I think that's a great one. And then I really 00:40:55.940 --> 00:40:58.480 enjoy any time I get to talk to Scott. I work 00:40:58.480 --> 00:41:00.139 with the guy every day. I spend a lot of time 00:41:00.139 --> 00:41:04.739 with him every day. But just the amount of knowledge 00:41:04.739 --> 00:41:08.300 he's got. And I think, T -Mac, you can hear it 00:41:08.300 --> 00:41:12.360 from down in Tampa, like the passion. Yeah. wants 00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:14.619 to get better yeah i mean he's out there it's 00:41:14.619 --> 00:41:17.380 40 degrees where most of it well us here in florida 00:41:17.380 --> 00:41:19.699 we're bundled up with about six layers at that 00:41:19.699 --> 00:41:21.719 point but he's out there hitting balls he's excited 00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:24.019 about what he's learning and i think it really 00:41:24.019 --> 00:41:27.380 capitalizes the idea that you're never it's never 00:41:27.380 --> 00:41:29.619 too late to learn something new and being excited 00:41:29.619 --> 00:41:35.119 about it or Or just the passion that he had about 00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:37.380 the lesson that he had with you to get the understanding. 00:41:37.659 --> 00:41:40.539 I mean, here's a guy that could go shoot 67, 00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:43.639 65 very easily. He's still working on his game, 00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:47.320 on his craft, getting better. And you can hear 00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:50.019 the enthusiasm, the passion of learning something 00:41:50.019 --> 00:41:52.940 new. And he's just like a five -year -old kid 00:41:52.940 --> 00:41:55.000 getting out there ready to beat balls and get 00:41:55.000 --> 00:41:58.260 the imagination going. And I think it's great. 00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:01.380 Yeah. It's, it's exciting to, you know, just 00:42:01.380 --> 00:42:03.679 be around. Like we want to get better. We want 00:42:03.679 --> 00:42:05.599 to, we're trying to find it. We're trying to 00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:07.679 find more distance. We're trying to, I got a 00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:09.699 new putter in the bag today because the old one's 00:42:09.699 --> 00:42:12.599 not working currently. So you don't just stand 00:42:12.599 --> 00:42:14.380 still. You don't just keep doing what you're 00:42:14.380 --> 00:42:17.679 doing. Stupid definition of insanity type of 00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:20.039 thing. Like you got to change it up. You got 00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:22.440 to go do something different to get better. So. 00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:25.659 Yeah. And that's, that's the beauty of this sport. 00:42:25.739 --> 00:42:29.599 You, you continually. learn at this sport you 00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:31.800 can play it at 80 years old where basketball 00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:34.059 baseball you cannot that's the beauty of this 00:42:34.059 --> 00:42:37.300 sport is that at 110 if you're still alive you're 00:42:37.300 --> 00:42:39.360 still working on something to get better you're 00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:41.679 trying to beat that guy next to you or whatever 00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:43.840 it is so it's a it's a game for a lifetime which 00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:46.079 is wonderful i think you're trying to improve 00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:48.300 on your own stuff too i think there's some of 00:42:48.300 --> 00:42:50.239 that like we're trying to always get you know 00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:52.699 oh great i shot 40 on the front side maybe i 00:42:52.699 --> 00:42:55.389 can shoot 39 in the back there's hope They can 00:42:55.389 --> 00:42:57.489 make cars as well, like all that stuff. So, yeah, 00:42:57.570 --> 00:43:00.510 good first segment back in, our first session 00:43:00.510 --> 00:43:03.829 back in. We've got some good guests coming up 00:43:03.829 --> 00:43:07.889 now for the upcoming season. So, yeah, just stay 00:43:07.889 --> 00:43:10.829 tuned with us, Dynamic Golf listeners. Team Mac, 00:43:10.909 --> 00:43:13.550 you be safe down there in Tampa. Enjoy the good 00:43:13.550 --> 00:43:17.090 weather. And I'll let you know if I shot 78 or 00:43:17.090 --> 00:43:19.289 80 today, you know, one of the two. Sounds good. 00:43:19.329 --> 00:43:20.909 Stay warm up there, partner. We'll talk to you 00:43:20.909 --> 00:43:21.510 soon. All right.