WEBVTT 00:00:04.780 --> 00:00:08.419 Sit back and get ready to take off with Dynamic 00:00:08.419 --> 00:00:20.940 Golf. Welcome back Dynamic Golf listeners. I 00:00:20.940 --> 00:00:23.000 am your co -host Tim McElvenna and with me as 00:00:23.000 --> 00:00:25.980 always Mr. Sean Klotz. Sean, how are you doing 00:00:25.980 --> 00:00:28.679 today? Hey T -Mac, good to hear from you again. 00:00:30.609 --> 00:00:32.070 Starting to enjoy some of the better weather 00:00:32.070 --> 00:00:34.750 up here in the Boston area this summer finally. 00:00:34.869 --> 00:00:37.049 It took a long time. It's almost July 1st. But 00:00:37.049 --> 00:00:40.490 good to kind of get out, you know, starting to 00:00:40.490 --> 00:00:43.350 practice and play a little bit more and, you 00:00:43.350 --> 00:00:45.030 know, given a bunch of lessons. And I just thought 00:00:45.030 --> 00:00:48.009 we might have a good topic of kind of something 00:00:48.009 --> 00:00:50.369 that doesn't really, you know, we talk about 00:00:50.369 --> 00:00:52.310 putting and all the different intricacies of 00:00:52.310 --> 00:00:55.329 putting. And I just feel like this one is sort 00:00:55.329 --> 00:00:58.740 of overlooked. We really drill down on the mechanics 00:00:58.740 --> 00:01:02.179 of the grip and the stance and the posture and 00:01:02.179 --> 00:01:04.400 sort of way to aim and all these different, you 00:01:04.400 --> 00:01:06.780 know, things on, you know, we talked about like 00:01:06.780 --> 00:01:09.079 aim point as a technology and just different 00:01:09.079 --> 00:01:12.420 ways to kind of get the ball rolling. But I think 00:01:12.420 --> 00:01:15.939 we kind of overlook some of the just basic fundamentals 00:01:15.939 --> 00:01:21.340 of pre -shot routine, what you should do. You 00:01:21.340 --> 00:01:22.640 know, we've talked about this in full swing. 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:25.099 You should have one. Yeah. You should have one. 00:01:25.599 --> 00:01:27.260 So let's talk about it in the putting world. 00:01:27.359 --> 00:01:30.840 I just see it come up more and more in our lessons. 00:01:31.060 --> 00:01:33.219 And I think this is very important because, you 00:01:33.219 --> 00:01:35.540 know, as instructors, we usually, you know, when 00:01:35.540 --> 00:01:38.219 people come to us, they're like. I get this all 00:01:38.219 --> 00:01:40.079 the time, and I'm sure you do too, is that I 00:01:40.079 --> 00:01:41.680 ask them, how's their putting? They always say, 00:01:41.739 --> 00:01:43.900 oh, the putting saves me every time in a round, 00:01:43.939 --> 00:01:47.459 and they just want to go to the full swing. Shark 00:01:47.459 --> 00:01:50.560 game's good. Shark game's good. Why do you not 00:01:50.560 --> 00:01:53.040 break 90? Correct. Correct. Why do you have 40 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:56.819 putts on the card? Exactly. But yeah, I think 00:01:56.819 --> 00:02:01.099 the importance of having a putting routine, where 00:02:01.099 --> 00:02:04.680 you should position your eyes, what you should 00:02:04.680 --> 00:02:07.180 be looking at when you putt. Wouldn't you agree? 00:02:07.379 --> 00:02:11.800 Yeah, 100%. And, you know, again, so many levels 00:02:11.800 --> 00:02:14.800 of this, so many layers of this. One of the questions 00:02:14.800 --> 00:02:17.120 that I ask people, like we're talking about, 00:02:17.139 --> 00:02:19.740 okay, well, my putting's good, my chipping's 00:02:19.740 --> 00:02:22.120 good, I can't break 90. Okay, how many putts 00:02:22.120 --> 00:02:24.759 do you have per round? Oh, I don't know. Well, 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:26.919 how many times do you get up and down? I don't 00:02:26.919 --> 00:02:29.099 know. If you don't know, how many greens do you 00:02:29.099 --> 00:02:33.189 hit? I don't really track that well. You've got 00:02:33.189 --> 00:02:37.150 to have the basic stats to know what to go work 00:02:37.150 --> 00:02:40.650 on because there may not be any point. I've played 00:02:40.650 --> 00:02:42.849 a lot of rounds in the past. Not a lot, but I'm 00:02:42.849 --> 00:02:45.409 starting to play a little more rounds. I always 00:02:45.409 --> 00:02:48.030 track my four fundamental things. I always track 00:02:48.030 --> 00:02:50.949 is fairways, greens, up and downs, and putts. 00:02:52.169 --> 00:02:55.069 Fairways, greens, up and down, and putt. I want 00:02:55.069 --> 00:02:58.449 the listeners to listen to that and not just 00:02:58.449 --> 00:03:01.370 gloss over that. Really go next round of golf. 00:03:01.960 --> 00:03:03.979 put on the, you know, you have your score on 00:03:03.979 --> 00:03:06.960 the top line or whatever, but two lines below 00:03:06.960 --> 00:03:10.020 that, you can put F and G and I do that. So if 00:03:10.020 --> 00:03:11.759 I, if I hit a fairway, I've got a little check 00:03:11.759 --> 00:03:14.840 mark in the, underneath the hole, the green, 00:03:15.020 --> 00:03:17.639 I get a little check mark up and down. I literally 00:03:17.639 --> 00:03:20.259 put the arrow up and down and then I put a P 00:03:20.259 --> 00:03:25.039 and, uh, if you start to know what you're really 00:03:25.039 --> 00:03:28.860 not good at, then you can really start to focus 00:03:28.860 --> 00:03:30.680 on the practice of what you should be good at. 00:03:30.740 --> 00:03:33.340 Correct. Correct. Yeah. You know, I think a lot 00:03:33.340 --> 00:03:35.300 of our students, you know, as we come to it, 00:03:35.319 --> 00:03:37.180 you know, they'll always remember the, the ball 00:03:37.180 --> 00:03:38.939 they hit out of bounds. Right. And they'll say, 00:03:38.979 --> 00:03:41.280 that's what crushed my score. Right. But I'm 00:03:41.280 --> 00:03:43.419 like, that's, that's one or two shots that we've 00:03:43.419 --> 00:03:45.319 lost there, but you know, you've fritted away 00:03:45.319 --> 00:03:49.419 shots on the green three putting and stuff like 00:03:49.419 --> 00:03:53.379 that. So that is, that is so true. What do you 00:03:53.379 --> 00:03:55.060 want to work on? Driver. My driver's not going 00:03:55.060 --> 00:03:58.939 good. Okay. Well, that's great. I can't tell 00:03:58.939 --> 00:04:01.099 you. Again, I've been playing a little bit more 00:04:01.099 --> 00:04:05.699 the last couple weeks. Just as a reference, again, 00:04:05.879 --> 00:04:09.360 I played last week. I went par -par, double -double 00:04:09.360 --> 00:04:12.259 -double, three doubles in a row, first from six 00:04:12.259 --> 00:04:15.520 over through five. Unfortunately, the fifth green 00:04:15.520 --> 00:04:17.740 is really close to the parking lot, TMAC. Uh 00:04:17.740 --> 00:04:19.990 -huh. you know what I'm talking about? Like it's 00:04:19.990 --> 00:04:22.449 your day off. And then you're like, what am I 00:04:22.449 --> 00:04:26.329 doing out here? Yes. Um, and then you kind of 00:04:26.329 --> 00:04:28.449 resettle. I had to put two of my no more bullshit 00:04:28.449 --> 00:04:30.589 lines on the card, right? One was for the first 00:04:30.589 --> 00:04:33.110 double. And then after the third double and the 00:04:33.110 --> 00:04:36.509 guy, I got to put another line. Um, but at the 00:04:36.509 --> 00:04:38.949 end of the day, I made nine pars in a row from 00:04:38.949 --> 00:04:42.250 there. And then like finished bogey par last 00:04:42.250 --> 00:04:45.240 year. So my, my, overall point of that story 00:04:45.240 --> 00:04:48.060 is my greens and my fairways and regulation were 00:04:48.060 --> 00:04:51.720 four hit four ways and four fairways yeah greens 00:04:51.720 --> 00:04:57.040 and regulation i hit 11. up and downs i was four 00:04:57.040 --> 00:05:02.459 for six and putts i was 31. right like if you 00:05:02.459 --> 00:05:04.879 don't know like fairways when we and you grew 00:05:04.879 --> 00:05:07.759 up t -mac fairways were uber important correct 00:05:07.759 --> 00:05:09.939 how important how important is that to the tour 00:05:09.939 --> 00:05:14.100 player now Not very. I mean, it's bomb and gouge 00:05:14.100 --> 00:05:18.180 now. That's it. That's it. You know. The three 00:05:18.180 --> 00:05:21.339 guys yesterday finishing up in the Rocket Classic 00:05:21.339 --> 00:05:23.920 there. Pot Guider. I'm going to get the names 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:26.180 wrong. Kirk. I can get Kirk. Yeah. I can't get 00:05:26.180 --> 00:05:29.360 the other kids. Grazerman. Grazerman. Grazerman, 00:05:29.480 --> 00:05:31.319 right? Yeah. Now we sound like the old people, 00:05:31.439 --> 00:05:35.220 T -Mac. We're doing good. But those guys are 00:05:35.220 --> 00:05:38.750 just routinely. three, I mean, puck getters leading 00:05:38.750 --> 00:05:43.649 the tour at 326 average. So, and Bryson's the 00:05:43.649 --> 00:05:45.769 one who changed, Tiger changed that a little 00:05:45.769 --> 00:05:48.850 bit, right? He kind of brought in the, okay, 00:05:48.889 --> 00:05:51.970 we're going to hit it long. But when he was off 00:05:51.970 --> 00:05:54.670 with his driver, he had to make these remarkable, 00:05:54.910 --> 00:05:58.829 you know, kind of saving shots, right? Well, 00:05:58.829 --> 00:06:01.209 he had the two iron stinger that he could always 00:06:01.209 --> 00:06:03.529 go to that, you know, would hit, you know, get 00:06:03.529 --> 00:06:07.660 out there 250 to 280. It is a fairway finder 00:06:07.660 --> 00:06:10.959 every time for him. Yeah, absolutely. And then 00:06:10.959 --> 00:06:14.680 that's why I say Tiger kind of brought it to 00:06:14.680 --> 00:06:17.480 the golf world of how many fairways are important 00:06:17.480 --> 00:06:20.980 because he hit so far. But Bryson, to me, is 00:06:20.980 --> 00:06:22.939 really the one the last five years that has really 00:06:22.939 --> 00:06:26.360 changed the dynamic of let's just hit it as far 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:29.500 as we possibly can. Like you said, T -Mac, go 00:06:29.500 --> 00:06:33.129 find it. Hit it on the green with a wedge. And 00:06:33.129 --> 00:06:36.670 then let's try to make a putt and go. So I know 00:06:36.670 --> 00:06:39.149 we started this talking about putting routine, 00:06:39.389 --> 00:06:43.290 but it all factors in, you know. So let me ask 00:06:43.290 --> 00:06:46.430 you, Sean, what is, you know, with our listeners 00:06:46.430 --> 00:06:50.009 here, what is the importance of a putting routine? 00:06:50.170 --> 00:06:52.970 And let me ask you, what is your putting routine? 00:06:53.189 --> 00:06:56.310 You know, what could we take away from you? Because 00:06:56.310 --> 00:06:58.189 you're an excellent putter and I'm sure you've 00:06:58.189 --> 00:07:00.370 got a great routine. Could you explain to some 00:07:00.370 --> 00:07:02.480 of the listeners of what? what your routine is 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:04.800 and the importance of it. Oh yeah, absolutely. 00:07:04.959 --> 00:07:07.079 I appreciate it. And I'm going to return this 00:07:07.079 --> 00:07:08.959 question to you. So you start thinking of yours 00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:11.560 as I know you, I know, you know, but like we 00:07:11.560 --> 00:07:13.339 all have different ones, right? We're all kind 00:07:13.339 --> 00:07:15.439 of different. You know, we should have some basic 00:07:15.439 --> 00:07:18.600 similarities of what we do. Yeah. Um, but from 00:07:18.600 --> 00:07:21.120 the start, we'll call it from the start, I'm 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:24.000 coming onto the green from the cart path or from, 00:07:24.019 --> 00:07:26.019 you know, from the fringe of walking onto the 00:07:26.019 --> 00:07:29.810 green, my balls. And my ball is some distance 00:07:29.810 --> 00:07:31.670 away from the hole. I've hit my iron shot on 00:07:31.670 --> 00:07:34.750 the green. And then while the other players are 00:07:34.750 --> 00:07:36.410 putting and chipping and doing whatever they're 00:07:36.410 --> 00:07:39.029 doing, I'm walking the putt from the, and it's 00:07:39.029 --> 00:07:41.850 just my normal pace, my normal stride. I count 00:07:41.850 --> 00:07:44.209 the number of strides I take between my ball 00:07:44.209 --> 00:07:47.769 and the hole. That's the very first thing I do. 00:07:47.850 --> 00:07:53.089 I get my number. 10 strides is 30 feet. Eight 00:07:53.089 --> 00:07:55.589 strides is 24 feet. I just divide or multiply 00:07:55.589 --> 00:07:58.149 everything by three. Just an easy number for 00:07:58.149 --> 00:08:01.170 me to keep in my head. So now I've got a number, 00:08:01.269 --> 00:08:03.810 and as I'm walking that putt, and I know you 00:08:03.810 --> 00:08:05.629 do this too, T -Mac, as you walk your putt, you 00:08:05.629 --> 00:08:08.370 can feel it with your feet, up and down, side 00:08:08.370 --> 00:08:10.949 hill, left to right, where the break is, right? 00:08:11.089 --> 00:08:16.069 All those things are so much more, to me, innately 00:08:16.069 --> 00:08:19.269 felt in my body rather than seen with my eyes. 00:08:19.290 --> 00:08:21.569 I can feel it with my body when I'm walking it. 00:08:23.870 --> 00:08:25.870 you know no different than when you walk up a 00:08:25.870 --> 00:08:29.410 hill you kind of start to walk up the hill like 00:08:29.410 --> 00:08:31.250 you realize that there's an uphill because your 00:08:31.250 --> 00:08:34.570 feet have sensors or whatever so so let me just 00:08:34.570 --> 00:08:37.370 stop right there the importance and i think this 00:08:37.370 --> 00:08:39.590 is a very important part for our listeners is 00:08:39.590 --> 00:08:41.929 that your putting routine starts before you even 00:08:41.929 --> 00:08:44.429 get on the putting green correct Absolutely. 00:08:44.429 --> 00:08:47.269 Every single time. Yeah. And I think that's something 00:08:47.269 --> 00:08:50.070 a lot of the amateurs or listeners probably don't 00:08:50.070 --> 00:08:51.710 do, you know, until they get behind the ball 00:08:51.710 --> 00:08:53.169 and they market, that's when they start looking 00:08:53.169 --> 00:08:57.190 at it. Right. You know, slow play, right? A lot 00:08:57.190 --> 00:08:59.649 of the slow play in the world is putting and 00:08:59.649 --> 00:09:03.289 the player not being ready when it's their turn 00:09:03.289 --> 00:09:07.090 to go. Yeah. Right. So if you are doing your 00:09:07.090 --> 00:09:09.470 homework and there's so much time to do homework, 00:09:09.730 --> 00:09:13.299 people are chipping, people are putting. You 00:09:13.299 --> 00:09:16.840 know, very rarely, not very rarely, there are 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:18.580 times, there are definitely times when you're 00:09:18.580 --> 00:09:20.639 the first one to go because you're farther away. 00:09:20.779 --> 00:09:23.879 I didn't mean to sound that arrogant. Like, no, 00:09:24.039 --> 00:09:26.059 we're a lot of times we're the first one to go. 00:09:26.419 --> 00:09:29.220 But there's still time because people are goofing 00:09:29.220 --> 00:09:31.539 around and they're going from the cart and whatever. 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:33.960 You have time. I don't want a slow play up in 00:09:33.960 --> 00:09:35.960 the world. I just want people to be ready when 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:38.799 they're about to putt, to have a plan, to have 00:09:38.799 --> 00:09:42.320 a strategy. Uh, and these things factor in. So, 00:09:42.320 --> 00:09:45.019 and I'll do this on the, you know, it's funny. 00:09:45.080 --> 00:09:47.820 My number in my head is probably around three 00:09:47.820 --> 00:09:51.159 to four feet when I stopped walking, but six 00:09:51.159 --> 00:09:53.340 feet and over, I'm still going to pace it off. 00:09:53.419 --> 00:09:55.259 Cause I need that number in my head of this is 00:09:55.259 --> 00:09:58.019 a six footer uphill, left to right. This is a 00:09:58.019 --> 00:10:00.740 12 footer downhill, right to left. It just, it's 00:10:00.740 --> 00:10:03.460 a helpful thing for me, how I'm going to make 00:10:03.460 --> 00:10:06.620 my shoulders work back and forth, how much pressure 00:10:06.620 --> 00:10:08.440 I'm going to put on my hands to make the stroke, 00:10:08.500 --> 00:10:12.330 that type of thing. Yeah. And the last part of 00:10:12.330 --> 00:10:15.769 this part is when you're reading, when you're 00:10:15.769 --> 00:10:18.830 walking up to the hole, where is the putt going 00:10:18.830 --> 00:10:20.629 to break the most, T -Mac? Where is the putt 00:10:20.629 --> 00:10:23.649 going to break? At the beginning or at the end 00:10:23.649 --> 00:10:25.429 of the putt? At the end of the putt, when the 00:10:25.429 --> 00:10:30.269 ball starts to die down. 100%. 100%, right? When 00:10:30.269 --> 00:10:32.850 it loses speed. So we get so caught up in the, 00:10:32.970 --> 00:10:37.190 again, the plumb bobbing guy. The guy who's doing 00:10:37.190 --> 00:10:42.110 aim point. The guy who's whatever. What's the 00:10:42.110 --> 00:10:45.509 green doing in Florida? Where's the green? Let 00:10:45.509 --> 00:10:48.049 me go up and look at the hole. I get it, but 00:10:48.049 --> 00:10:51.009 at the same time, I don't. I need to hit a 20 00:10:51.009 --> 00:10:55.309 -foot putt consistently 20 feet. Correct. Pace. 00:10:56.450 --> 00:11:01.070 Pace. How far? How hard? I don't know. I'm going 00:11:01.070 --> 00:11:04.519 to stop mine for a second. I think I want to, 00:11:04.519 --> 00:11:07.460 I want to, I want your feedback. I think teaching 00:11:07.460 --> 00:11:12.419 feel and pace and distance control for putting 00:11:12.419 --> 00:11:15.120 is arguably the hardest thing to teach. Would 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:18.659 you be agreement with that? Absolutely. There's 00:11:18.659 --> 00:11:21.220 a lot of feel, um, you know, it's not as much 00:11:21.220 --> 00:11:23.639 technique, right? It's, it's about, it's about 00:11:23.639 --> 00:11:27.600 feel. It's about imagination. You know, it's 00:11:27.600 --> 00:11:30.419 bringing those two things together. It's an art, 00:11:30.539 --> 00:11:33.399 right? It's bringing the art and not the science 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:36.419 to it. You know, we do see Bryson get a lot more 00:11:36.419 --> 00:11:39.279 scientific on the greens. But there's got to 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:41.600 be feel. There's got to be touch. There's got 00:11:41.600 --> 00:11:44.820 to be that inner Ben Crenshaw I always think 00:11:44.820 --> 00:11:48.159 of. So you've got to have that artistry in you 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:51.379 and not to be afraid to have that feel and that 00:11:51.379 --> 00:11:54.620 imagination. Play with those ideas. That's what 00:11:54.620 --> 00:11:58.240 I would say about that with feel for sure. Yeah. 00:11:58.279 --> 00:12:03.940 And the thing about teaching either a newer golfer 00:12:03.940 --> 00:12:08.509 or a mid or high handicap golfer. is they don't 00:12:08.509 --> 00:12:11.549 have the library in their head of the putts. 00:12:12.169 --> 00:12:15.409 They haven't had enough experience, especially 00:12:15.409 --> 00:12:19.590 new golfers, to even comprehend what 30 feet 00:12:19.590 --> 00:12:22.409 feels like in a putting stroke. Does that make 00:12:22.409 --> 00:12:26.389 sense? Yeah, absolutely. You know, you've played 00:12:26.389 --> 00:12:30.210 golf a long time. You play every Wednesday with 00:12:30.210 --> 00:12:32.610 the boys. You know, all the things when you're 00:12:32.610 --> 00:12:35.529 able to practice in between lessons and stuff. 00:12:36.740 --> 00:12:38.840 that's what we're building up is repetitions 00:12:38.840 --> 00:12:41.480 in our mind and our body of like how hard to 00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:44.779 hit it to that object. Correct. Regardless of 00:12:44.779 --> 00:12:46.379 where it's going to go left or right, just how 00:12:46.379 --> 00:12:49.500 hard we have to hit it. When you change a putter, 00:12:49.539 --> 00:12:51.480 when you change putters, it's a pretty traumatic 00:12:51.480 --> 00:12:54.080 thing. Yes. Because now the weight's different, 00:12:54.179 --> 00:12:56.080 the grip's different, the shaft is different, 00:12:56.159 --> 00:12:59.000 the look of the club is different. Just the face 00:12:59.000 --> 00:13:01.840 of the club, right? The inserts they have now, 00:13:01.899 --> 00:13:03.679 the multiple number of inserts they have now. 00:13:04.159 --> 00:13:08.360 Yes. That's how it comes off the face. I mean, 00:13:08.360 --> 00:13:12.440 it's not rocket science. The tiger patted with 00:13:12.440 --> 00:13:16.419 the same putter for 20 years, 15 years, like 00:13:16.419 --> 00:13:21.100 probably 30 years now. Yeah. Right. I think Scotty 00:13:21.100 --> 00:13:23.659 Cameron, Newport two or Newport, one of the two. 00:13:23.759 --> 00:13:26.159 Yeah. That he got from Mark, Marco mirror, I 00:13:26.159 --> 00:13:28.500 think at Windermere or something like that. So 00:13:28.500 --> 00:13:32.360 90s. Right. Yeah. So, so to me, that's, that's 00:13:32.360 --> 00:13:36.899 what, that's where like that. I am hesitant to 00:13:36.899 --> 00:13:39.340 change putters. And I think all of this is good 00:13:39.340 --> 00:13:40.799 information. I know we're trying to get back 00:13:40.799 --> 00:13:43.139 to the routine. This is why I love talking about 00:13:43.139 --> 00:13:45.200 talking with the stuff with you. Cause I think 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:47.100 we just, yeah, we do go off on tangents, but 00:13:47.100 --> 00:13:50.919 it's so good for people to listen to. Yes. Even, 00:13:50.980 --> 00:13:53.259 even just changing the grip and people, you know, 00:13:53.259 --> 00:13:55.639 all my grips are grips worn on. I need a new 00:13:55.639 --> 00:13:57.940 grip. Let me just try a different one. Oh, do 00:13:57.940 --> 00:13:59.990 you know the gram weight of that? your gram weight 00:13:59.990 --> 00:14:03.490 on this part on this grip is 68 grams you go 00:14:03.490 --> 00:14:06.730 to a heavier one it's 85 grams now you've changed 00:14:06.730 --> 00:14:09.389 the bottom of the club by 20 like the offset 00:14:09.389 --> 00:14:13.970 of the counterbalance has changed yeah and oh 00:14:13.970 --> 00:14:16.330 i don't why am i not putting better well yeah 00:14:16.330 --> 00:14:19.090 like I don't know. There's just so many factors 00:14:19.090 --> 00:14:21.309 to it. Well, at that point, you really got to 00:14:21.309 --> 00:14:23.129 get out to the practice putting green. You've 00:14:23.129 --> 00:14:25.570 just got to, you know, hone those feels again. 00:14:25.710 --> 00:14:27.909 You've got to reconnect with your putter, right? 00:14:27.970 --> 00:14:29.549 Your new putter. You've got to reconnect with 00:14:29.549 --> 00:14:31.389 that. And you've just got to build confidence 00:14:31.389 --> 00:14:33.929 seeing the ball go in the hole. And you've got 00:14:33.929 --> 00:14:36.529 to get a feel for lag putting of, you know, how 00:14:36.529 --> 00:14:39.210 far do I need to take this putter back? How do 00:14:39.210 --> 00:14:42.509 I, you know. attack this ball with this putter 00:14:42.509 --> 00:14:44.990 right and and just really you know if somebody 00:14:44.990 --> 00:14:46.350 bought a new driver they're out there on the 00:14:46.350 --> 00:14:48.590 driving range just pounding away on it right 00:14:48.590 --> 00:14:50.370 but you know they get a new putter and they're 00:14:50.370 --> 00:14:52.669 like they'll just go to the first hole and and 00:14:52.669 --> 00:14:54.929 oh my god i can't get a feel for this thing so 00:14:54.929 --> 00:14:57.230 you got to dedicate the time that you would with 00:14:57.230 --> 00:15:00.210 any other club um right with that putter right 00:15:00.210 --> 00:15:03.809 it's and what is the object of the game get it 00:15:03.809 --> 00:15:06.200 in the hole Correct, right? It's not about who 00:15:06.200 --> 00:15:08.159 drove it the longest or who put it on the green 00:15:08.159 --> 00:15:10.940 as many times. It's about putting the ball in 00:15:10.940 --> 00:15:15.960 the hole. Yep, yep. So like you're saying, they 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:19.779 take the putter, and I see it every day at Oakley. 00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:24.000 They run -ish up to the first tee because they're 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:26.419 eight minutes before their tee time. They'll 00:15:26.419 --> 00:15:28.860 hit three balls in the net. They'll go putt a 00:15:28.860 --> 00:15:33.889 couple of 30 -footers. Like what? Again, I don't 00:15:33.889 --> 00:15:36.250 care that we talk about stuff consistently because 00:15:36.250 --> 00:15:38.289 I think all these things are just so good people 00:15:38.289 --> 00:15:41.110 keep hearing. Me and you go to the first. If 00:15:41.110 --> 00:15:43.950 we get to the putting green before we play, because 00:15:43.950 --> 00:15:45.950 we're guilty of this too. We don't always get 00:15:45.950 --> 00:15:47.830 there an hour before or two hours before or whatever. 00:15:48.350 --> 00:15:50.470 But we go to the putting green. We putt three 00:15:50.470 --> 00:15:52.809 footers. We want to hear that ball go in the 00:15:52.809 --> 00:15:54.269 hole. We want to start building our confidence 00:15:54.269 --> 00:15:56.909 up quickly. Correct. And then expand to five 00:15:56.909 --> 00:16:00.440 feet. and miss a little bit less or more type 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:03.179 of thing, and then maybe roll a couple of 20 00:16:03.179 --> 00:16:05.379 -footers to get the feel of the distance of the 00:16:05.379 --> 00:16:08.179 green. But you don't want to sit there missing 00:16:08.179 --> 00:16:12.539 your first 15 putts from 12 feet because you 00:16:12.539 --> 00:16:15.379 think you should make eight of these. No, I want 00:16:15.379 --> 00:16:16.899 to hear the ball go in the hole immediately. 00:16:17.779 --> 00:16:21.539 I've made, I don't even know, 50 years old, 54 00:16:21.539 --> 00:16:24.250 years old. I can't, I'm going to tell you. close 00:16:24.250 --> 00:16:26.049 to a hundred thousand three footers in my life 00:16:26.049 --> 00:16:28.889 between practice and play. Yeah. And I still, 00:16:28.929 --> 00:16:33.029 I still want to go before I play hit some three 00:16:33.029 --> 00:16:36.370 footers to get that initial for that day. For 00:16:36.370 --> 00:16:38.669 that day, I want to see that three footer go 00:16:38.669 --> 00:16:41.450 in and feel good on the first hole in the second 00:16:41.450 --> 00:16:43.250 hole when I got it, do it. So I'm going to ask 00:16:43.250 --> 00:16:45.129 you a question here, kind of a layup question 00:16:45.129 --> 00:16:48.690 here, but I know that you have worked on three 00:16:48.690 --> 00:16:52.220 footing putts or three foot putts. You know, 00:16:52.220 --> 00:16:55.500 back from college, what is, and I know this is, 00:16:55.519 --> 00:16:57.879 what is your record for how many three putts 00:16:57.879 --> 00:16:59.539 you've made in a row? I think this is amazing. 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:03.039 Oh, this is pretty silly. Pretty silly. So always 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:05.519 putted with a chalk line. That was the goal. 00:17:05.660 --> 00:17:08.779 Great. Never, you know, always brought the chalk 00:17:08.779 --> 00:17:13.799 line to the practice green. And one day down 00:17:13.799 --> 00:17:17.500 at Summerfield, it was 222 in a row from five 00:17:17.500 --> 00:17:22.509 feet. Wow. Wow. Did you hear that folks? Wow. 00:17:22.509 --> 00:17:25.750 222. But it was instilled in me in college where 00:17:25.750 --> 00:17:28.470 you couldn't leave the practice green to go to 00:17:28.470 --> 00:17:31.009 the first tee until you made 53 footers in a 00:17:31.009 --> 00:17:35.190 row. That was the deal during practice. You had 00:17:35.190 --> 00:17:38.349 to make 53 footers in a row. Coach would watch 00:17:38.349 --> 00:17:41.109 you. Coach wouldn't talk to you, but he'd watch 00:17:41.109 --> 00:17:44.529 you. And if you got to 45 and missed it, you're 00:17:44.529 --> 00:17:48.779 not teeing up yet. Well, and I think that's important 00:17:48.779 --> 00:17:50.779 for our listeners to understand is that the coach 00:17:50.779 --> 00:17:54.980 was watching you make 53 footers, not hitting 00:17:54.980 --> 00:17:58.680 50 drivers out in the fairway. That's correct. 00:17:58.859 --> 00:18:01.240 Right. I mean, where's the importance at, right? 00:18:01.279 --> 00:18:03.380 Where's the coach's importance and where's our 00:18:03.380 --> 00:18:05.279 importance? It's on putting, making sure that 00:18:05.279 --> 00:18:08.660 ball goes in the hole. So, but getting back to 00:18:08.660 --> 00:18:10.900 your routine a little bit. So once you've kind 00:18:10.900 --> 00:18:13.849 of looked over the putt and kind of. checked 00:18:13.849 --> 00:18:16.670 out the topography of, of the hole. What do you 00:18:16.670 --> 00:18:18.750 kind of do when you get behind the hole, when 00:18:18.750 --> 00:18:21.390 you're looking from behind the hole, you know, 00:18:21.390 --> 00:18:23.309 behind the ball to the hole, what, what is your, 00:18:23.309 --> 00:18:25.230 your thought process? What is your routine right 00:18:25.230 --> 00:18:27.769 there? Yeah, definitely. So, so I've done my 00:18:27.769 --> 00:18:30.829 math. I've done my homework. I figured out what, 00:18:30.869 --> 00:18:34.990 where I'm trying to aim near the hole. We'll 00:18:34.990 --> 00:18:37.390 start there near the hole. Okay. Cause obviously 00:18:37.390 --> 00:18:40.029 not normal, not normally at the hole. It's usually 00:18:40.029 --> 00:18:42.980 right or left of it by some degree. I'm not a 00:18:42.980 --> 00:18:45.140 cup guy. I hear that a lot, and that's just me, 00:18:45.180 --> 00:18:46.539 and there's other people that really understand 00:18:46.539 --> 00:18:49.220 that. Are you a ball guy or a cup guy? I'm a 00:18:49.220 --> 00:18:52.680 point guy. I'm a point guy. I'm a target. I need 00:18:52.680 --> 00:18:56.819 to see a blade of grass, a brown spot, a whatever. 00:18:57.140 --> 00:18:59.059 Something on the green is going to be different 00:18:59.059 --> 00:19:00.819 than all the other green grass. You're going 00:19:00.819 --> 00:19:02.539 to be able to see it. Usually ball marks are 00:19:02.539 --> 00:19:05.220 really good, old ball marks. I think that's probably 00:19:05.220 --> 00:19:08.380 the best thing as far as a bigger thing to kind 00:19:08.380 --> 00:19:11.640 of see. So it's something up by the hole that 00:19:11.640 --> 00:19:13.700 I'm trying to. you know that i'm trying to visualize 00:19:13.700 --> 00:19:16.539 where where the ball is going to start to break 00:19:16.539 --> 00:19:18.640 and go back into the hole either left to right 00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:20.819 or right to left whatever that is and then i'm 00:19:20.819 --> 00:19:22.920 going to pull that spot from up near the hole 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:24.779 the target that i'm lucky to look at and bring 00:19:24.779 --> 00:19:27.500 that all the way back to something six inches 00:19:27.500 --> 00:19:29.460 to a foot in front of me that i can see from 00:19:29.460 --> 00:19:32.420 my peripheral vision t mac mean you've been friends 00:19:32.420 --> 00:19:34.420 for 20 years you've heard the same statement 00:19:34.420 --> 00:19:37.279 from me for 20 years is that right yeah that 00:19:37.279 --> 00:19:39.920 hasn't varied absolutely spot putting basically 00:19:39.920 --> 00:19:43.039 right finding that spot that's you know two three 00:19:43.039 --> 00:19:46.680 feet in front of you that you know you can i 00:19:46.680 --> 00:19:49.799 think that you can consistently roll over right 00:19:49.799 --> 00:19:52.200 instead of if i have a 12 footer that that hole 00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:54.079 starts to get a little bit smaller when i'm focusing 00:19:54.079 --> 00:19:56.579 on something 12 feet away is that correct yep 00:19:56.579 --> 00:20:00.539 yep yep absolutely and um the reason i pick out 00:20:00.539 --> 00:20:03.000 the point like i go less it's got to be to me 00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:05.859 less than a foot It's got to be six inches in 00:20:05.859 --> 00:20:08.160 front of me or a foot because I'm going to line 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:11.980 the golf ball up. And I recently this year been 00:20:11.980 --> 00:20:14.740 using more of the text of the golf ball, the 00:20:14.740 --> 00:20:19.440 Callaway, the whatever golf ball you play in 00:20:19.440 --> 00:20:22.559 line with that spot putting, you know, the thing 00:20:22.559 --> 00:20:24.200 you're talking about that six inches to a foot 00:20:24.200 --> 00:20:27.940 in front of me that's in line with my end target. 00:20:28.099 --> 00:20:31.079 Yeah. And that bigger text really has seemed 00:20:31.079 --> 00:20:34.029 to help me line up because now. Now that I've 00:20:34.029 --> 00:20:36.109 done all that, now I'm going to come alongside 00:20:36.109 --> 00:20:39.990 the putt. And before I put the putter down as 00:20:39.990 --> 00:20:42.390 far as behind the golf ball, I'm going to take 00:20:42.390 --> 00:20:47.849 one, sometimes two, one mostly, practice swings 00:20:47.849 --> 00:20:50.970 alongside the ball while I look at the hole. 00:20:51.730 --> 00:20:54.410 That's important right there. Repeat that again 00:20:54.410 --> 00:20:58.509 for our listeners, please. Yeah. So you do your 00:20:58.509 --> 00:21:00.369 homework behind the ball. Great. You come up 00:21:00.369 --> 00:21:02.539 alongside the golf ball. You're going to be on 00:21:02.539 --> 00:21:06.599 the same level, flatness, whatever, that you 00:21:06.599 --> 00:21:08.000 are going to make this putt because you're going 00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:09.859 to move in three inches when you actually put 00:21:09.859 --> 00:21:12.759 the putter behind the ball. Before I do that, 00:21:12.799 --> 00:21:15.299 my practice stroke is done there, and I'm looking 00:21:15.299 --> 00:21:19.799 at the hole as I'm making my stroke with my shoulders. 00:21:19.980 --> 00:21:24.140 And that visual feedback in my head is what I'm 00:21:24.140 --> 00:21:26.680 going to use. I'm literally saying to myself, 00:21:26.859 --> 00:21:30.000 how far, how hard, how hard, how hard. Yeah. 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:33.539 That's, that's important. That's why I don't 00:21:33.539 --> 00:21:37.119 three putt a lot. Still do, but usually pretty 00:21:37.119 --> 00:21:39.619 good lag putter for that reason. And I think 00:21:39.619 --> 00:21:42.220 that's a really important part because most of 00:21:42.220 --> 00:21:44.160 my students, when I get them in for a putting 00:21:44.160 --> 00:21:46.529 lesson or something like that. are looking at 00:21:46.529 --> 00:21:48.990 the club head going back and forth and not at 00:21:48.990 --> 00:21:52.569 their target. And I ask him, I'm like, where 00:21:52.569 --> 00:21:54.630 are you trying to putt to? Well, I'm trying to 00:21:54.630 --> 00:21:56.569 putt to that hole. Well, let's get our visual 00:21:56.569 --> 00:21:59.349 on that hole. Like any other athlete, if I was 00:21:59.349 --> 00:22:02.150 going to make a free throw, I'm looking at the 00:22:02.150 --> 00:22:06.609 rim, not the ball, right? If I'm a quarterback, 00:22:06.789 --> 00:22:09.210 I'm looking at my target, not the ball, right? 00:22:10.990 --> 00:22:13.930 Having that visual of looking at your target 00:22:13.930 --> 00:22:16.210 and then bringing that, as you would say, inner 00:22:16.210 --> 00:22:19.130 athlete out with that feel starts to make the 00:22:19.130 --> 00:22:22.769 best sense. Wouldn't you agree? 100%. Yeah, it's 00:22:22.769 --> 00:22:25.369 so well said. I think the funny thing that you 00:22:25.369 --> 00:22:27.250 just said, and I didn't really put it together 00:22:27.250 --> 00:22:29.430 until literally now. When you think about the 00:22:29.430 --> 00:22:31.269 quarterback, like the Tom Brady's, the Aaron 00:22:31.269 --> 00:22:33.910 Rodgers, the Brett Favre's, the Dan Marino's, 00:22:33.910 --> 00:22:36.369 whoever you want to go. Yeah. Like they're throwing 00:22:36.369 --> 00:22:41.019 to a space on the field. because so many times 00:22:41.019 --> 00:22:42.819 right the receiver hasn't even come out of the 00:22:42.819 --> 00:22:45.799 break yet yeah all right there's they're throwing 00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:48.160 to air yes and i think that's a little bit of 00:22:48.160 --> 00:22:50.220 kind of what we do with the golf putting world 00:22:50.220 --> 00:22:53.079 is like we're putting to a spot that's not ever 00:22:53.079 --> 00:22:56.619 the actual target again three foot straight putt 00:22:56.619 --> 00:22:59.579 five foot straight putt on a chalk line you can 00:22:59.579 --> 00:23:02.180 do it 220 times in a row because it's on a chalk 00:23:02.180 --> 00:23:04.599 line it's straight you got to have some kind 00:23:04.599 --> 00:23:06.779 of you know consistency with what you do but 00:23:06.779 --> 00:23:10.680 like it does become a very robotic, that's a 00:23:10.680 --> 00:23:13.140 good term, sorry, robotic motion from five feet 00:23:13.140 --> 00:23:15.980 if it's straight. All these other putts, especially 00:23:15.980 --> 00:23:18.279 up here in the New England area where you've 00:23:18.279 --> 00:23:20.640 got these kind of bigger breaks, I'll say, than 00:23:20.640 --> 00:23:23.259 typical Florida stuff. Florida's usually a little 00:23:23.259 --> 00:23:26.440 flatter, a little slower. You've got a putt to 00:23:26.440 --> 00:23:28.900 this imaginary, which is what the quarterback 00:23:28.900 --> 00:23:32.960 is thrown into, imaginary spot that you think, 00:23:32.980 --> 00:23:35.180 with all your math and all your experience, is 00:23:35.180 --> 00:23:37.180 going to make you give the best chance of making 00:23:37.180 --> 00:23:39.210 the ball go in. That's a great point. It really 00:23:39.210 --> 00:23:42.210 is. Absolutely. Absolutely. I think I never even 00:23:42.210 --> 00:23:45.950 put that together. Glad we talked. Just learned 00:23:45.950 --> 00:23:49.109 something today. So good. Good. All right. So 00:23:49.109 --> 00:23:50.630 now I've done, I've done my practice stroke, 00:23:50.750 --> 00:23:53.569 right now I've done one or two. Great. And this 00:23:53.569 --> 00:23:57.769 is all within some type of window of time. I 00:23:57.769 --> 00:24:00.509 don't, I don't really measure the, this time, 00:24:00.650 --> 00:24:02.779 meaning like. we've talked before on the pre 00:24:02.779 --> 00:24:04.779 -shot routine on the golf course and hitting 00:24:04.779 --> 00:24:07.180 a wedge or a six iron or whatever that's between 00:24:07.180 --> 00:24:11.119 16 .9 and 17 .1 seconds in my world that's my 00:24:11.119 --> 00:24:13.640 pre -shot routine from all the stuff good this 00:24:13.640 --> 00:24:18.720 one is not as it's it's definitely a a consistent 00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:22.400 time frame it's just a little variable just a 00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:25.289 little bit based on If I got the five footer, 00:24:25.309 --> 00:24:27.170 I'm probably going to take one practice stroke. 00:24:27.230 --> 00:24:30.509 It's really the longer ones outside of 20 feet 00:24:30.509 --> 00:24:33.230 that I'm going to probably take the one, maybe 00:24:33.230 --> 00:24:35.269 two. If I feel good with the one and I got it 00:24:35.269 --> 00:24:37.029 in my head and I know what I'm doing. Yeah. Good. 00:24:37.670 --> 00:24:40.730 But the two in the other thing about the practice, 00:24:40.730 --> 00:24:43.970 if it was a second practice stroke, it would 00:24:43.970 --> 00:24:47.210 be a consistent flow of the shoulders. That makes 00:24:47.210 --> 00:24:49.589 sense. Like I'm not taking a practice stroke, 00:24:49.730 --> 00:24:52.549 setting the club down again, taking another practice 00:24:52.549 --> 00:24:56.099 stroke. It's very loose in my shoulders and my 00:24:56.099 --> 00:24:58.599 feel, right? You're trying to get that putter 00:24:58.599 --> 00:25:01.119 head to kind of flow through there. Gotcha. So 00:25:01.119 --> 00:25:04.319 from there, and that's, I mean, I think I can 00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:07.339 almost think like you do. You want to follow 00:25:07.339 --> 00:25:09.240 up on that question? Because that's good stuff. 00:25:09.559 --> 00:25:12.779 But let me just finish it up. So then we go in, 00:25:12.779 --> 00:25:14.420 then we kind of move into the ball, right? Now 00:25:14.420 --> 00:25:16.519 we're going to put the putter face, the black 00:25:16.519 --> 00:25:20.420 text, the white line, the two balls, whatever 00:25:20.420 --> 00:25:23.460 the thing is on the alignment. tool of your putter. 00:25:23.599 --> 00:25:25.759 We're going to put that through the text of the 00:25:25.759 --> 00:25:28.960 golf ball. You know, many players use lines. 00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:31.700 Many players use the kind of triple track technology 00:25:31.700 --> 00:25:35.119 or the pro titles has got their little alignment 00:25:35.119 --> 00:25:37.200 tool thing on their ball, whatever it is. I don't 00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:39.119 care, but there's something that you're lining 00:25:39.119 --> 00:25:42.440 the club face up with the alignment tool on the 00:25:42.440 --> 00:25:45.480 putter through the golf ball, which is lined 00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:47.619 up to the intermediate target six inches to a 00:25:47.619 --> 00:25:50.019 foot in front of you. Okay, good. I put that 00:25:50.019 --> 00:25:52.900 down. Great. Then I'm going to separate my feet 00:25:52.900 --> 00:25:55.940 from there. A lot of people come in with their 00:25:55.940 --> 00:25:58.440 feet already separated, and then they put the 00:25:58.440 --> 00:26:01.920 putter face down. Yeah. No good. No good. Correct. 00:26:03.460 --> 00:26:06.500 So now I've got the putter face down. I know 00:26:06.500 --> 00:26:09.619 it's in line. Great. I got my feet separated. 00:26:09.740 --> 00:26:15.480 Great. At this point, I look down at the hole 00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:20.289 20 feet away. And I bring that gaze back to the 00:26:20.289 --> 00:26:24.430 golf ball. I try to track from the final target 00:26:24.430 --> 00:26:26.950 through the intermediate target with my eyes, 00:26:27.029 --> 00:26:30.750 literally like a line, and back into the putter 00:26:30.750 --> 00:26:33.670 face. And then I'm going to take my stroke within 00:26:33.670 --> 00:26:37.289 two seconds. I'm not going to sit there and think 00:26:37.289 --> 00:26:41.250 about all the mechanics of it. And then you can't 00:26:41.250 --> 00:26:43.349 fix it from that point. Once you did all that 00:26:43.349 --> 00:26:45.730 part, you can't fix it. You've just done the 00:26:45.730 --> 00:26:48.650 best you can. You've got to live with the results 00:26:48.650 --> 00:26:52.930 and go hit the next one. Absolutely. And a little 00:26:52.930 --> 00:26:55.009 bit of a follow -up question about your line. 00:26:55.390 --> 00:26:59.450 For me, I know what my answer is, but when you 00:26:59.450 --> 00:27:03.549 look at a line, do you kind of see an imaginary 00:27:03.549 --> 00:27:05.910 line or a color or something like that, something 00:27:05.910 --> 00:27:09.329 that kind of spots out to you, or are you just 00:27:09.329 --> 00:27:15.400 still trying to… hone in on that feel so there's 00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:20.059 a three i might have been six video vcr go back 00:27:20.059 --> 00:27:27.539 in the days vcr videotape golf specific uh kind 00:27:27.539 --> 00:27:30.420 of psychological package that i got in like the 00:27:30.420 --> 00:27:34.720 mid 80s peter jacobson was one of the main people 00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:37.339 on this and this is basically i know it was in 00:27:37.339 --> 00:27:41.109 the 80s uh mike reed was a really, really straight 00:27:41.109 --> 00:27:43.549 golfer back in the 80s, one of the shorter hitters, 00:27:43.609 --> 00:27:47.230 but they called him Radar. Yeah, yeah. And he 00:27:47.230 --> 00:27:49.789 was a little eccentric with his thoughts. That's 00:27:49.789 --> 00:27:52.109 the best way to describe it. A little bit out 00:27:52.109 --> 00:27:54.029 there, but you could tell he kind of had a different, 00:27:54.150 --> 00:27:56.450 kind of like a little bit of like when you listen 00:27:56.450 --> 00:27:58.109 to Mickelson talking about how he's going to 00:27:58.109 --> 00:28:01.349 hit an iron. Or a flop shot. Yeah, exactly. Just 00:28:01.349 --> 00:28:05.509 all the factors that go in. So Reed, Mike Reed 00:28:05.509 --> 00:28:08.220 was asked this question by Peter. Peter Jacobson, 00:28:08.220 --> 00:28:09.500 the same question. He's like, what are you looking 00:28:09.500 --> 00:28:11.720 at? And this is going to sound weird to the listeners. 00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:14.559 He goes, I'm looking for this row and this line 00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:18.339 of centipedes that's on the ground that's between 00:28:18.339 --> 00:28:21.279 my golf ball and going towards the hole. They're 00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:23.859 moving slowly, but it's a full line of centipedes 00:28:23.859 --> 00:28:26.319 all the way up to the golf ball, all the way 00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:29.539 up to the hole. And I have a little bit of that 00:28:29.539 --> 00:28:33.359 TMAC in my head. Great. Yeah, it's either that 00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:36.480 analogy. The better one that might not sound 00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:39.759 so weird is gave a lesson this week. It was a 00:28:39.759 --> 00:28:42.920 little bit dewy out on the putting green, and 00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:46.299 then you could see the line of the putt because 00:28:46.299 --> 00:28:49.160 the ball was going through the water. Yeah, I 00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:50.880 love that. That's the image, right? That's the 00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:53.720 image that you and I have in our heads. We don't 00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:56.000 always have it perfect. Whatever, we get it. 00:28:56.039 --> 00:29:00.990 But we have some type of line, ball. intermediate 00:29:00.990 --> 00:29:03.890 target and target hopefully goes in the hole 00:29:03.890 --> 00:29:07.009 or gets near the hole. Yeah. So yeah, it's not 00:29:07.009 --> 00:29:10.170 random. It's not, it's not, uh, are you looking 00:29:10.170 --> 00:29:11.849 at the back of the ball when you make the putt? 00:29:11.849 --> 00:29:13.529 Are you thinking about your head movement? Are 00:29:13.529 --> 00:29:15.809 you thinking about your right thumb on where 00:29:15.809 --> 00:29:20.369 it is on the script? No, no, none of that. Well, 00:29:20.490 --> 00:29:22.670 I think that kind of comes back to the idea of 00:29:22.670 --> 00:29:24.950 when we talk about like, Tiger or something like 00:29:24.950 --> 00:29:26.630 that. What did, what did Earl always tell him? 00:29:26.630 --> 00:29:29.569 Putt to the picture, right? So in Tiger's mind, 00:29:29.750 --> 00:29:32.309 he's, you know, once he gets that last look at 00:29:32.309 --> 00:29:34.910 the hole, the only thing he sees in his mind's 00:29:34.910 --> 00:29:38.029 eye is that last picture that, that, that frame 00:29:38.029 --> 00:29:40.710 of that hole. And he's not looking at, you know, 00:29:40.710 --> 00:29:44.009 the ball, the club, um, or any of that stuff. 00:29:44.049 --> 00:29:46.789 He's just imagining the feel of his shoulders 00:29:46.789 --> 00:29:49.450 or whatever he kind of feels. And he's got that 00:29:49.450 --> 00:29:52.680 picture of that hole in his mind. You know, and 00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:54.960 I think that's, that's very important as well, 00:29:55.019 --> 00:29:57.099 is that you want to have that last image that 00:29:57.099 --> 00:30:00.119 you looked at the hole in your mind and not get 00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:02.079 distracted by, you know, looking at the ball, 00:30:02.180 --> 00:30:04.500 looking at the club head, go back. That's a big 00:30:04.500 --> 00:30:07.279 one. Right. And there you go. That's a really 00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:08.980 good one. Right. I mean, I can't tell you how 00:30:08.980 --> 00:30:10.680 many times I look at an amateur and they're watching 00:30:10.680 --> 00:30:12.259 the club head go back and I'm like, that's not 00:30:12.259 --> 00:30:14.400 good. That's not going to happen very well. Right. 00:30:14.440 --> 00:30:17.240 You know, just, you know, you've got to take 00:30:17.240 --> 00:30:19.200 your mental clarity and you've got to kind of 00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:21.380 imagine yourself out of your body a little bit. 00:30:21.480 --> 00:30:25.200 and focusing on that spot you know that last 00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:29.119 image that you have and for me personally i always 00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:31.619 see when i'm really putting well i will in my 00:30:31.619 --> 00:30:34.160 mind i will see like a yellow line tracking to 00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:37.619 that hole okay so that that's personally me that's 00:30:37.619 --> 00:30:39.380 that's me but i really like the idea of what 00:30:39.380 --> 00:30:42.259 tiger always said put to the picture um you know 00:30:42.259 --> 00:30:44.599 have that mental image in your mind's eye of 00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:48.289 of that last image that you saw and not all the 00:30:48.289 --> 00:30:50.329 crazy stuff that's down below you at the time, 00:30:50.390 --> 00:30:51.849 right? Because you can get lost in the sauce 00:30:51.849 --> 00:30:57.289 there. It is why the chalk line is still one 00:30:57.289 --> 00:30:59.990 of the best training tools for putting. Because 00:30:59.990 --> 00:31:02.369 if you can get a five -foot straight putt and 00:31:02.369 --> 00:31:04.589 you can putt enough putts on a five -foot straight 00:31:04.589 --> 00:31:06.569 putt or three feet, start at three feet, I don't 00:31:06.569 --> 00:31:09.210 care. But then when you go on the golf course 00:31:09.210 --> 00:31:12.589 and you have this visual image in your head of 00:31:12.589 --> 00:31:15.529 the... line on your putter the alignment tool 00:31:15.529 --> 00:31:18.569 going back on the blue line or the red line of 00:31:18.569 --> 00:31:20.549 the chalk line yours is yellow that's great i 00:31:20.549 --> 00:31:22.549 don't care whatever the line is you know whatever 00:31:22.549 --> 00:31:25.069 it is but now it's just a visual image okay i 00:31:25.069 --> 00:31:28.170 just got to keep the the white line you know 00:31:28.170 --> 00:31:32.990 on the on the blue line it's such a yeah um so 00:31:32.990 --> 00:31:35.369 i think aren't you reading something didn't you 00:31:35.369 --> 00:31:36.769 tell me you're reading something recently about 00:31:37.529 --> 00:31:39.309 Kind of an older golfer that kind of had this 00:31:39.309 --> 00:31:42.470 mindset 70 years ago? Yeah, I've been reading 00:31:42.470 --> 00:31:45.109 a book by a gentleman, and I like going back 00:31:45.109 --> 00:31:47.430 to the oldies, and I'm talking about the real 00:31:47.430 --> 00:31:49.490 oldies, a gentleman by the name of Horton Smith, 00:31:49.670 --> 00:31:52.990 who was the first winner of the Augusta National 00:31:52.990 --> 00:31:55.809 Championship before we called it the Masters. 00:31:56.190 --> 00:31:59.650 Oh, okay. Because Bobby Jones was too, he didn't 00:31:59.650 --> 00:32:01.269 like the sound of it. He thought it was a little 00:32:01.269 --> 00:32:07.609 too... you know, yeah. So he, uh, even back then 00:32:07.609 --> 00:32:09.970 he was talking about the importance of spot putting 00:32:09.970 --> 00:32:13.430 what we're talking about. Um, and he used the 00:32:13.430 --> 00:32:16.789 analogy and I, I, he was a, he was a avid bowler 00:32:16.789 --> 00:32:21.289 at the time and he, and what he would say is 00:32:21.289 --> 00:32:23.329 that when you're bowling, right, you're looking 00:32:23.329 --> 00:32:25.130 at those little spots that are on the ground. 00:32:25.150 --> 00:32:27.329 If anybody's done any bowling and he would always 00:32:27.329 --> 00:32:31.220 say psychologically, it's so much. it's so much 00:32:31.220 --> 00:32:33.500 easier for the mind to predict where that ball 00:32:33.500 --> 00:32:35.440 or that bowling ball will go over that little 00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:38.819 spot to go through instead of looking at the 00:32:38.819 --> 00:32:41.960 pin way out in the distance. So that's where 00:32:41.960 --> 00:32:45.000 he took his, you know, idea of spot putting and 00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:48.119 all that. That's a great, great analogy. So good. 00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:50.579 And, you know, Bobby Jones would say that he 00:32:50.579 --> 00:32:52.859 was the only person he never saw three putts. 00:32:54.220 --> 00:32:56.079 Okay. You know, and we're talking about Bobby 00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:58.339 Jones, probably one of the best putters at that 00:32:58.339 --> 00:33:01.819 time with Calamity Jane, right? And they're also 00:33:01.819 --> 00:33:03.819 not putting on good surfaces, T -Mac, right? 00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:05.839 And look at those old putters. I mean, they're 00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:08.619 almost like a one iron in today's age, right? 00:33:08.779 --> 00:33:12.259 I mean, it's so much different. Not round. Yeah, 00:33:12.339 --> 00:33:15.240 we hit a ball like, you know, on a car path. 00:33:15.339 --> 00:33:16.880 We could take out a play immediately because 00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:18.500 we're too good to play with that thing. These 00:33:18.500 --> 00:33:20.930 guys are playing with. got a percha and feathers 00:33:20.930 --> 00:33:23.890 and whatever, you know, like, Oh yeah. They're 00:33:23.890 --> 00:33:26.109 not, not quality controlled at the, uh, at the 00:33:26.109 --> 00:33:28.029 Callaway plant. Yeah. It's, it's amazing. The 00:33:28.029 --> 00:33:29.829 book that I'm reading, you can look at the ball 00:33:29.829 --> 00:33:31.930 cause he's, you know, giving demonstrations and 00:33:31.930 --> 00:33:33.970 he's got a line on the ball, which, you know, 00:33:33.970 --> 00:33:36.029 was kind of, you know, ahead of its time. Yeah. 00:33:36.549 --> 00:33:38.630 He had a little line on the ball. He put like 00:33:38.630 --> 00:33:41.190 a little line with an arrow on it and he'd get 00:33:41.190 --> 00:33:43.190 like an old pen and he would put that on there 00:33:43.190 --> 00:33:45.470 to demonstrate stuff. But you look at this old 00:33:45.470 --> 00:33:47.450 ball and you're like, Oh my God, we would just 00:33:47.450 --> 00:33:49.710 throw that in the trash if we, found it somewhere. 00:33:49.829 --> 00:33:53.089 I mean, it's just a terrible looking thing. Um, 00:33:53.329 --> 00:33:56.490 but you know, these are the things that, you 00:33:56.490 --> 00:33:58.529 know, and I think that's why it's important to 00:33:58.529 --> 00:34:01.549 look back at the older days of generations. It's 00:34:01.549 --> 00:34:04.089 not, it's not anything new. It's not like we're 00:34:04.089 --> 00:34:06.589 reinventing the wheel here, but what we're trying 00:34:06.589 --> 00:34:09.489 to do is just bring back some of these great 00:34:09.489 --> 00:34:11.710 ideas that some of these great golfers had some 00:34:11.710 --> 00:34:14.510 really tough conditions, what worked for them 00:34:14.510 --> 00:34:18.289 and how can we apply it in today's age? Absolutely. 00:34:18.389 --> 00:34:21.289 So, so run through your pre -shot routine. Is 00:34:21.289 --> 00:34:23.030 it similar to mine? Do you do some of the same 00:34:23.030 --> 00:34:26.369 things different? What do you do different? Yeah, 00:34:26.409 --> 00:34:28.630 I think we do a lot of similar things. I think 00:34:28.630 --> 00:34:31.010 a lot of professionals do, but for me, when I 00:34:31.010 --> 00:34:33.889 start walking up to the green, I start imagining 00:34:33.889 --> 00:34:37.030 to me, I start imagining if there was a rainstorm, 00:34:37.110 --> 00:34:40.449 where's that water going to flow, right? Where's 00:34:40.449 --> 00:34:42.829 the water going, right? I'm trying to imagine 00:34:42.829 --> 00:34:44.610 what's it going to look like in a rainstorm, 00:34:44.670 --> 00:34:47.719 right? Um, and then once I get on up there, I 00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:49.800 want to feel what it is with my feet and my up 00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:53.139 down, kind of get that in my mind. Um, and then 00:34:53.139 --> 00:34:56.800 once I kind of get behind that, I, I, I'm basically 00:34:56.800 --> 00:34:59.119 looking at a spot, like you said, probably two 00:34:59.119 --> 00:35:02.099 to six inches, you know, or a foot in front of 00:35:02.099 --> 00:35:04.280 me somewhere where I can get that ball to roll 00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:07.550 over and I can feel confident about it. And the 00:35:07.550 --> 00:35:10.929 big thing is, is that I'm always trying to, and 00:35:10.929 --> 00:35:13.469 for me, I'm always looking at the hole as I'm 00:35:13.469 --> 00:35:15.969 taking my stroke, as you said, and just getting 00:35:15.969 --> 00:35:18.409 a feel with my hands and my shoulders of what 00:35:18.409 --> 00:35:22.190 I'm trying to do there. And then it's just basically 00:35:22.190 --> 00:35:25.469 line that ball up to that line, make the best 00:35:25.469 --> 00:35:29.130 stroke that I can. And I think it's important 00:35:29.130 --> 00:35:31.309 for the listeners to understand that even if 00:35:31.309 --> 00:35:33.429 you make a great putt and you don't make it, 00:35:33.489 --> 00:35:35.530 you still need to go in your mind and say, I 00:35:35.530 --> 00:35:38.150 made that putt. I did everything I could just 00:35:38.150 --> 00:35:41.250 because it hit a spike mark or it didn't go exactly 00:35:41.250 --> 00:35:44.070 the way that I went. You know, that's, you know, 00:35:44.070 --> 00:35:46.329 I made the best stroke that I could. Now it may 00:35:46.329 --> 00:35:48.610 come down to maybe I'm not reading the greens 00:35:48.610 --> 00:35:51.389 correctly. Maybe I need to look at it from the 00:35:51.389 --> 00:35:53.429 other side of the hole, which I think is important 00:35:53.429 --> 00:35:55.349 too. If you have time to do that, make sure that 00:35:55.349 --> 00:35:57.590 you're looking from both sides to get a, get 00:35:57.590 --> 00:36:00.570 a read on that. But you really want to get a 00:36:00.570 --> 00:36:03.980 feel. I think of looking at the hole, getting 00:36:03.980 --> 00:36:06.400 a feel with your arms and shoulders of what that, 00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:09.139 what that's going to do. And then just really, 00:36:09.179 --> 00:36:12.380 once you step into that putt, imagine that last 00:36:12.380 --> 00:36:15.179 look that you had at that hole and that's it, 00:36:15.219 --> 00:36:18.500 you know, just fire away. Right. Just, and don't 00:36:18.500 --> 00:36:20.260 sit over and freeze over the putt, you know, 00:36:20.260 --> 00:36:22.900 don't be, Oh my God, if I make this, it's a par 00:36:22.900 --> 00:36:26.079 or it's a birdie or it's a course record. You 00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:28.590 just gotta, you know, it's. every shot counts 00:36:28.590 --> 00:36:30.690 and it's just as important as the first shot 00:36:30.690 --> 00:36:33.510 that you had on the tee, you know, just make 00:36:33.510 --> 00:36:35.929 that putt, let it go. And once it, once it's 00:36:35.929 --> 00:36:38.889 gone, make sure for me, I keep my head down and 00:36:38.889 --> 00:36:42.250 I watch the spot where the ball went past. And 00:36:42.250 --> 00:36:45.030 I'm, and for me, I'm making sure that the ball 00:36:45.030 --> 00:36:47.510 is passing by my eyeline and I'm not looking 00:36:47.510 --> 00:36:49.969 at it. I think that's important as well. Cause 00:36:49.969 --> 00:36:51.570 once I start looking at it, the left shoulder 00:36:51.570 --> 00:36:55.550 comes up and wipe city, it goes. Yeah. I do think 00:36:55.550 --> 00:36:59.400 that's, uber important for most golfers that 00:36:59.400 --> 00:37:02.179 are maybe listening to this, because I'm a big 00:37:02.179 --> 00:37:05.159 fan of practice putting practice putting with 00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:08.300 my eyes closed, you know, that old drill of kind 00:37:08.300 --> 00:37:10.679 of like putting four footers and getting everything 00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:13.039 set up and then basically just shutting your 00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:15.840 eyes and then making your stroke. And you will 00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:19.000 be surprised at how many you do make with your 00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:21.880 eyes closed. Yeah. Because you're still, you 00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:24.650 know, And the other one, I just did TMAC this 00:37:24.650 --> 00:37:27.469 weekend. I had a little break in between lessons. 00:37:27.849 --> 00:37:30.409 So I was out there, you know, I just love to 00:37:30.409 --> 00:37:32.250 go to, there's a great chipping and putting area 00:37:32.250 --> 00:37:34.329 in the back of Oakley. And, you know, you're 00:37:34.329 --> 00:37:37.309 just kind of quiet, whatever. And so I did some 00:37:37.309 --> 00:37:40.010 of the Jordan Spieth, like looking at the hole 00:37:40.010 --> 00:37:42.929 type of stuff. Yeah. As I was making, as you're 00:37:42.929 --> 00:37:45.670 actually making the stroke, right? Mm -hmm. And 00:37:45.670 --> 00:37:48.530 I, again, sort of amazed. I showed it to one 00:37:48.530 --> 00:37:50.289 of my lessons yesterday, actually. And he was 00:37:50.289 --> 00:37:52.239 like. I can't believe I just made three out of 00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:54.679 five. I'm like, yeah, it's, I'm not saying play 00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:56.820 that way, but it's such a good sort of, again, 00:37:56.880 --> 00:38:00.300 look at the target. Your body knows what to do. 00:38:00.340 --> 00:38:02.380 Like you don't have to look at what we're doing. 00:38:02.420 --> 00:38:04.420 It's a great analogy. Same thing. Like the free 00:38:04.420 --> 00:38:06.420 throw shooter. You don't, you're not looking 00:38:06.420 --> 00:38:08.880 at your hand or your right arm when you make 00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:11.340 a free throw. Why would you ever, why would you 00:38:11.340 --> 00:38:14.199 ever anything athletically? Why would you think 00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:16.320 about your left leg when you're about to plant 00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:20.340 for a pitch in the baseball? Right. Are you going 00:38:20.340 --> 00:38:21.940 to look at where your left leg is going to land? 00:38:22.059 --> 00:38:27.460 No. No. No. The glove or the inside left part 00:38:27.460 --> 00:38:29.619 of the plate or wherever you're trying to throw 00:38:29.619 --> 00:38:35.940 it, same deal here. You know? Yeah. It's fine. 00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:39.659 I think we can keep going with this. This is 00:38:39.659 --> 00:38:41.920 great. I'm going to re -listen to this one, T 00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:44.239 -Mac, because I've learned some stuff today from 00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:47.889 you. This is just good stuff. Yeah. My last little 00:38:47.889 --> 00:38:51.349 thing, T -Mac, is let's go with the three to 00:38:51.349 --> 00:38:53.130 five footer. Okay. Because the three to five 00:38:53.130 --> 00:38:58.849 footer is the one that people arguably put the 00:38:58.849 --> 00:39:01.769 most amount of pressure on themselves out of 00:39:01.769 --> 00:39:05.010 any shot they hit on the golf course. Yeah. Right? 00:39:05.150 --> 00:39:07.690 Because they're supposed to make it. Because 00:39:07.690 --> 00:39:10.429 you're going to look silly if you miss it. Yeah, 00:39:10.449 --> 00:39:13.190 the expectations of making that, right? Right. 00:39:13.230 --> 00:39:15.590 How could you miss that? Correct. How could you 00:39:15.590 --> 00:39:18.869 miss a birdie? Oh, no, I've hit it in there three 00:39:18.869 --> 00:39:21.869 feet for birdie. Not, oh, good job, I've hit 00:39:21.869 --> 00:39:24.329 it in there three feet for birdie. Oh, no, I 00:39:24.329 --> 00:39:26.090 better not miss this because it's three feet 00:39:26.090 --> 00:39:29.789 for birdie. Correct. Or in other people's worlds, 00:39:29.829 --> 00:39:31.690 maybe it's they hit it in there three feet for 00:39:31.690 --> 00:39:34.829 par or three feet for bogey, whatever their level 00:39:34.829 --> 00:39:40.429 is. But it's so we put the pressure on ourselves. 00:39:40.750 --> 00:39:45.500 Yeah. Nobody else in the world cares. If you 00:39:45.500 --> 00:39:48.760 miss that, it doesn't affect the global economy. 00:39:49.940 --> 00:39:53.019 Right. Well, let me ask you this, right? So talking 00:39:53.019 --> 00:39:55.340 about the three and five footers, and I know 00:39:55.340 --> 00:39:57.139 you know this, right? How many times in your 00:39:57.139 --> 00:39:58.920 playing group does the guy next to you make the 00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:00.780 10 footer, the other guy makes the eight footer, 00:40:00.780 --> 00:40:02.340 the other guy makes the seven footer, and you've 00:40:02.340 --> 00:40:05.179 got this three footer and you're like, I better 00:40:05.179 --> 00:40:08.280 not be the SOB that misses. Right. I put it in 00:40:08.280 --> 00:40:10.500 here to three feet. I've got a birdie. And what 00:40:10.500 --> 00:40:12.219 usually happens, we're thinking about what all 00:40:12.219 --> 00:40:14.460 these other people just did and not focusing 00:40:14.460 --> 00:40:17.559 on what we're supposed to be doing. Right. And 00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:20.480 and we usually miss it. Right. Because we put 00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:23.239 all this pressure on ourselves because everybody 00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:26.199 else in our group made it from further out. Right. 00:40:26.300 --> 00:40:28.340 And then we're like, oh, my God, I better not 00:40:28.340 --> 00:40:30.280 be the guy that misses. I don't want to be the 00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:33.880 you know, the guy that chokes. Right. I play 00:40:33.880 --> 00:40:38.599 with better people than I do. I'm not sure. I'm 00:40:38.599 --> 00:40:41.739 not sure about that, but we have a good time. 00:40:41.800 --> 00:40:44.300 Let's put it that way. No, it's funny. But so 00:40:44.300 --> 00:40:45.840 the, what I was going to get to before I went 00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:49.699 on my little rant was I three to five feet. I 00:40:49.699 --> 00:40:52.820 really visualize the ball going in the hole. 00:40:53.239 --> 00:40:57.420 I see the ball over the blade of grass that I'm 00:40:57.420 --> 00:40:59.760 trying to aim at. And the ball is going in the 00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:03.219 hole before I take my stroke. Like that is part 00:41:03.219 --> 00:41:06.139 of that little. That's a great visual. Right? 00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:08.480 Like, when you look at the hole and you bring 00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:12.340 your gaze back, in your mind, you visually see 00:41:12.340 --> 00:41:15.059 the ball going in the hole. Yeah. And, again, 00:41:15.219 --> 00:41:18.039 I think, to me, I think that's what I learned 00:41:18.039 --> 00:41:20.260 this weekend when I was doing the putting or 00:41:20.260 --> 00:41:22.719 looking at the target, looking at the hole as 00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:25.519 I'm making the five -footers. It really does 00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:28.280 help with the idea of, oh, because now your eye 00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:31.039 is looking at the hole. You're looking at the 00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:33.679 blade of grass. Mm -hmm. looking at the part 00:41:33.679 --> 00:41:35.420 of the left side of the cup that the ball's got 00:41:35.420 --> 00:41:39.380 to roll in from and then again you kind of free 00:41:39.380 --> 00:41:41.980 yourself like you just your body just does it 00:41:41.980 --> 00:41:45.239 yeah yeah it's part of we talked about that like 00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:47.920 why we don't get in a car accident because you 00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:51.519 know we we visually have this acuity it's probably 00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:53.559 it's got to be practiced just like everything 00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:56.460 else in our world and you got to get better at 00:41:56.460 --> 00:41:59.079 it you can't just it doesn't just happen you 00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:02.639 have to get better at it But to have the confidence, 00:42:02.860 --> 00:42:07.000 as opposed to the situation you just described, 00:42:07.219 --> 00:42:10.900 which was, oh no, if I miss this, I'm going to 00:42:10.900 --> 00:42:14.699 look bad, which is every amateur golfer over 00:42:14.699 --> 00:42:19.539 a water hazard from 100 yards, what if I hit 00:42:19.539 --> 00:42:22.440 the ball in the water? And you and I are thinking 00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:25.739 about... How close can I hit it onto the next 00:42:25.739 --> 00:42:28.400 to the flag? Well, we start thinking about performance 00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:30.940 instead of technique, right? We start to put 00:42:30.940 --> 00:42:33.639 this, this idea of performance in our head, right? 00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:35.880 And that puts more pressure on us than just the 00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:37.940 technique, right? Just go through the process. 00:42:37.980 --> 00:42:40.460 You know, like Nick Saban says, enjoy the process, 00:42:40.519 --> 00:42:43.179 not the result. Right. Just keep going through 00:42:43.179 --> 00:42:45.420 the process and the results will come. Right. 00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:47.800 So I think you're absolutely right. The amateur, 00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:49.820 once he gets over a thing of water or something 00:42:49.820 --> 00:42:51.579 like that, or even the small, you know, five 00:42:51.579 --> 00:42:54.159 footer is that they're thinking about the result 00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:56.880 before the action where you're thinking about, 00:42:56.960 --> 00:42:59.719 you know, the action already being taken place. 00:42:59.739 --> 00:43:02.139 And now it's just have my technique flow through. 00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:05.699 Would that be correct on that? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. 00:43:05.900 --> 00:43:10.599 How old are the girls now? Three and six. When 00:43:10.599 --> 00:43:12.539 you miss a putt when you play with Voss on a 00:43:12.539 --> 00:43:15.900 Wednesday night match for $10, you miss a putt. 00:43:15.900 --> 00:43:18.800 When you come home, do they care about any of 00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:22.880 that? No, no. They just care about Dad being 00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:25.960 home and being in a good mood, right? Does your 00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:33.639 wife care? No. Nobody cares. I'm not what we're 00:43:33.639 --> 00:43:35.079 trying to do, and we're trying to get better. 00:43:35.869 --> 00:43:38.010 have our personal goals, do what we can, and 00:43:38.010 --> 00:43:42.449 beat our buddy for five hours or whatever. It 00:43:42.449 --> 00:43:45.630 doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't 00:43:45.630 --> 00:43:47.829 mean when I play golf today at 1 o 'clock, I'm 00:43:47.829 --> 00:43:50.090 not going to try on every single shot. I'm not 00:43:50.090 --> 00:43:54.869 going to try to win $10 from Scott Johnson. I'm 00:43:54.869 --> 00:43:57.070 going to try because it's part of why we do it. 00:43:57.929 --> 00:43:59.969 That's why I was practicing on Saturday at 4 00:43:59.969 --> 00:44:01.469 o 'clock because I knew I was playing Monday 00:44:01.469 --> 00:44:04.130 at 1 o 'clock. I had a window. I knew I could 00:44:04.130 --> 00:44:06.869 practice. I played okay on Thursday, and I'm 00:44:06.869 --> 00:44:13.309 looking forward to today. In summary, basically, 00:44:13.369 --> 00:44:16.570 figure out what your pre -shot routine is. Listen 00:44:16.570 --> 00:44:20.389 to podcasts multiple times. There's so many good 00:44:20.389 --> 00:44:23.670 things we just talked about. Absolutely. Loves 00:44:23.670 --> 00:44:26.429 the golfers. Have confidence. The way you get 00:44:26.429 --> 00:44:32.750 confident is by practicing the right way. It 00:44:32.750 --> 00:44:35.590 is in your head of the ball doing what you want 00:44:35.590 --> 00:44:38.289 it to do, which is going in the hole or getting 00:44:38.289 --> 00:44:42.250 close to the hole. Yeah. It's not going to happen 00:44:42.250 --> 00:44:44.030 by you sitting on the couch. It's not going to 00:44:44.030 --> 00:44:45.809 happen by you listening to this podcast. You 00:44:45.809 --> 00:44:48.949 have to take what we talk about, go do it. And 00:44:48.949 --> 00:44:51.650 then two months from now, you'll be a better 00:44:51.650 --> 00:44:54.050 putter. Applied science, right? Apply that science, 00:44:54.230 --> 00:44:57.489 you know, to, to what we're doing. Right. Um, 00:44:57.489 --> 00:44:59.949 coming back to the three or five footer for me, 00:45:00.030 --> 00:45:02.469 at least what I kind of envision a little bit 00:45:02.469 --> 00:45:04.710 is when I get over those, I always try to pick 00:45:04.710 --> 00:45:07.429 out a spot in the back of the cup. And that's 00:45:07.429 --> 00:45:09.769 the only thing when I, you know, and I really 00:45:09.769 --> 00:45:12.269 believe in, in having that in my mind's eye. 00:45:12.369 --> 00:45:14.010 And that's what I'm looking at. I'm looking at 00:45:14.010 --> 00:45:16.369 that tiny little speck that's in the back of 00:45:16.369 --> 00:45:18.110 the cup or something like that, or that little 00:45:18.110 --> 00:45:20.909 piece of grass in the back of the cup. And that's 00:45:20.909 --> 00:45:22.809 all I'm focusing on. And I've always believed 00:45:22.809 --> 00:45:25.750 in what Ernie L said, aim small, miss small. 00:45:26.730 --> 00:45:29.909 There you go. Yep. So absolutely. That would 00:45:29.909 --> 00:45:32.889 be not two cents for that. Good stuff, man. Yeah. 00:45:33.269 --> 00:45:36.349 So, well, good. I think we'll wrap it up there. 00:45:36.409 --> 00:45:38.909 Sound pretty good. Absolutely. Yeah. That was 00:45:38.909 --> 00:45:42.289 great. That was a lot of fun. I think we look 00:45:42.289 --> 00:45:45.010 forward to doing some, some podcasts here in 00:45:45.010 --> 00:45:47.030 the future with some of the members from Oakley, 00:45:47.090 --> 00:45:50.190 you know, kind of diving into sort of what makes 00:45:50.190 --> 00:45:53.269 them successful in their world. And then how. 00:45:54.090 --> 00:45:57.909 how that applies to golf. Um, this is a kind 00:45:57.909 --> 00:45:59.829 of maybe like a preemptive quick note for the 00:45:59.829 --> 00:46:01.650 future. I was talking to a gentleman this, this 00:46:01.650 --> 00:46:05.849 yesterday who is just, I mean, you know, super 00:46:05.849 --> 00:46:09.190 successful in the, in the scheme of kind of financial 00:46:09.190 --> 00:46:11.690 and sort of like business world. He's super successful, 00:46:11.869 --> 00:46:17.230 uh, older gentlemen. And, uh, he said to me, 00:46:17.269 --> 00:46:19.010 which, you know, you, me, you've heard this. 00:46:19.070 --> 00:46:21.829 He said, he said, John, you know, if I ever, 00:46:23.029 --> 00:46:25.070 thought about the decisions that I'd made in 00:46:25.070 --> 00:46:27.449 business over the years, as much as I think about 00:46:27.449 --> 00:46:30.250 trying to hit a wedge, I wouldn't be successful. 00:46:30.349 --> 00:46:32.949 And I'm like, yeah, that's exactly right. That's 00:46:32.949 --> 00:46:36.329 exactly right. So I think as we talk to some 00:46:36.329 --> 00:46:38.289 of these members and kind of, you know, drill 00:46:38.289 --> 00:46:41.590 down on sort of what makes them tick, I think 00:46:41.590 --> 00:46:43.630 that's a good thought for a lot of people too, 00:46:43.710 --> 00:46:47.670 is if you guys ever out there. thought so much 00:46:47.670 --> 00:46:49.769 about making a three -footer as you do about 00:46:49.769 --> 00:46:52.090 your business decision or whatever it is your 00:46:52.090 --> 00:46:56.389 thing you'd be in paralysis yeah on your business 00:46:56.389 --> 00:46:59.909 analysis by paralysis right yeah exactly yep 00:46:59.909 --> 00:47:04.730 100 so well good i'm excited to have a chat with 00:47:04.730 --> 00:47:07.449 him because uh you know having that mental freedom 00:47:07.449 --> 00:47:10.329 to to free you up and and just be reactionary 00:47:10.329 --> 00:47:13.010 instead of uh you know as you said being analysis 00:47:13.010 --> 00:47:15.869 by paralysis is important and it it comes into 00:47:15.869 --> 00:47:17.809 business and sports and every kind of aspect 00:47:17.809 --> 00:47:21.909 of our life. Oh yeah. A hundred percent. So good 00:47:21.909 --> 00:47:24.849 stuff. All right. Well, Hey, dynamic golf listeners. 00:47:24.909 --> 00:47:27.329 We enjoyed you guys coming along, listening to 00:47:27.329 --> 00:47:29.750 us. If you guys have any questions, please reach 00:47:29.750 --> 00:47:31.909 out to us. We'd love to answer any of the questions 00:47:31.909 --> 00:47:35.110 that you may have. You can find us on YouTube. 00:47:35.230 --> 00:47:38.449 You can find us on other platforms like Spotify 00:47:38.449 --> 00:47:41.230 and everything like that. Sean, any last words 00:47:41.230 --> 00:47:46.929 before we break for today? Again, go re -listen 00:47:46.929 --> 00:47:49.449 to this one. This is not one to be able to listen 00:47:49.449 --> 00:47:52.369 to one time. Come up with your own routine. Do 00:47:52.369 --> 00:47:56.070 it in your own time. Be consistent with it. Make 00:47:56.070 --> 00:48:01.190 it your own. And track. Track the number of putts 00:48:01.190 --> 00:48:03.489 you're making. And you can't track the number 00:48:03.489 --> 00:48:05.289 of putts without tracking the number of up and 00:48:05.289 --> 00:48:07.670 downs. Because you can't tell me that you have 00:48:07.670 --> 00:48:12.329 40 putts. And you got to get the greens and regulation 00:48:12.329 --> 00:48:14.369 matter, too. So you might as well do all of those. 00:48:14.510 --> 00:48:16.650 Might as well do fairways, greens, up and downs 00:48:16.650 --> 00:48:19.750 and putts because they just all matter. And they 00:48:19.750 --> 00:48:21.690 really kind of know what you really know what 00:48:21.690 --> 00:48:23.889 to work on. And they got apps now for that. Right. 00:48:23.989 --> 00:48:26.550 You can download an app and, you know, you can 00:48:26.550 --> 00:48:28.050 do it on your scorecard. But if you're one of 00:48:28.050 --> 00:48:30.210 the new age, you know, younger fellers, maybe 00:48:30.210 --> 00:48:31.929 you might want to get an app and you can just 00:48:31.929 --> 00:48:34.579 kind of. press that around and, and it'll, you 00:48:34.579 --> 00:48:36.719 know, statistically track that in your computers. 00:48:36.780 --> 00:48:39.980 Right. So 18 birdies, I think is when I've seen 00:48:39.980 --> 00:48:42.599 a lot team act, which seems to be pretty good. 00:48:42.659 --> 00:48:46.380 And, you know, yeah, you can get super technical 00:48:46.380 --> 00:48:49.019 of like, okay, two putts with inside of 30 feet. 00:48:49.059 --> 00:48:51.039 Cause you can mark how far you are from the green, 00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:53.300 you know, from the hole and you can put that 00:48:53.300 --> 00:48:55.179 in the app and yeah, have the stats there. I 00:48:55.179 --> 00:48:59.860 mean, yeah. So. Good, good. So as I said, I want 00:48:59.860 --> 00:49:01.679 to thank everybody for coming along and listening 00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:03.900 to us. As I said, if you guys have any questions, 00:49:03.980 --> 00:49:07.699 let us know. I'm Tim. That's Sean. And you guys 00:49:07.699 --> 00:49:09.199 have a great day. Thank you so much.