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Sit back and get ready to take off with Dynamic

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Golf. Hey, welcome back, everybody. Welcome back

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to Dynamic Podcast. I am your co -host, Tim McElvenna.

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And with me, as always, Sean Klotz. Sean, tell

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us about a little bit what we're going to be

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looking at for the Masters Preview today. Well,

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T -Mac, I think this is really... You know, one

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of the best weeks in golf. I mean, I think it's

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you've been there last year. You finally made

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it. Yeah. Right. You made the trek. So I'm kind

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of interested to see, you know, we talked about

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it last year, but maybe some of your feedback,

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like being a first time visitor, like what were

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some of the holes that maybe like really impressed

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you? You know, the viewing audience doesn't get

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to see the front nine. too often no so um did

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you have any specific holes that you really were

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like surprised at how different they look in

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person versus real life type of thing uh yeah

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for me i mean i found that uh you know what was

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it number Well, obviously when you first start

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out, when you look at number one, you can't believe

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how much of an uphill that is just to start off

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with. And then when you look at, I think the

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changes that they made to number two, I mean,

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it's almost like you're hitting back there in

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a phone booth back there. It's so, so far back.

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And then I would say, I want to believe it's

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number seven, the par three that's over there.

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Number six. Yeah. I absolutely fell in love with

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that hole. You know, I don't think anybody sees

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it, but. For me, personally, that became my new

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favorite hole by far. Yeah, it's such a cool

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hole. I mean, number six, just the green itself,

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right? You got the top right template. You got

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a little kind of two -tier green. It's a par

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three. It's kind of like 180 from the back tee

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box, which is really close to five green. Yeah.

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That's another thing that I don't think that

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the players realize or the viewers realize. These

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holes are... They're right next to each other.

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There's not like cart paths, you know, where

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you have to go through woods or swamps to kind

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of get to them. You know, I kind of think of

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it like it's such a cool walkable golf course.

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I mean, it's very, very hilly. Yes. Everything's

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right next to each other. You know what it kind

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of reminds me of, and obviously in a much lower

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level, but when we went and played Palma Silla,

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you remember every time you got off the green,

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the tee box was really immediately right there

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next to you. Right there, yeah. It's definitely

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that old time. It just brings you back to the

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1920s, 1930s lore of golf where you had to carry

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your own bag, you had a four caddy with you,

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and when you got off the tee, the green was right

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there. and vice versa. You're right there. To

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me, the other one is, I mean, obviously, in that

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corner, you can see all the stuff happening right

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in front of you. You're playing 11. You're coming

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down that fairway, and you see, you know, you

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can visualize, like, what was that, three or

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four years ago? Actually, five. Actually, seven

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years ago, I guess, when Tiger won. You know,

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when the two guys there, Finau and who was the

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other gentleman who dumped it in the water? The

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guy that won the British Open. Trying to think.

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Remember the guy's name, you know who I'm talking

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about? No, was it Lowry? No, it was Fino, and

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I'll come back to you. We'll circle back on that

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one for sure. But yeah, 2019, you know, when

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Tiger won, absolutely. When Tiger won, yeah,

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18, I think, right? 18? I can't remember either.

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No, it's funny. But the point being that you

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see all that happening in front of you because

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you can see the guys, you know, either dumping

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into the water or hitting it close and the crowd,

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the roar of the crowd, you know, when they hit

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a good shot on. Yeah. You're playing number 14,

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which is a par four, and you see a great shot

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coming on 13, the par five, and the crowd, you

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know, kind of erupts because you're sitting there

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on 14 tee box. Mm -hmm. And you see all that

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happening right in front of you. So it's just

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such a cool golf course in that respect. Well,

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you've got so many views too. I mean, I don't

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think that the audience has no idea about that,

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obviously, but you, you, you have so many little,

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you're on little Hills and you've got little

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views to other parts of the course. You're looking

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through these pines. I mean, it's, it's like

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being in a fairy land, to be honest with you.

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It's amazing. The little views and the sounds,

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I don't think people really realize the sounds

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that echo, you know, and I was there for the

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practice round. And I remember I was out in the

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parking lot and. I think somebody made something

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or something like that. And you just heard this,

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this billowing sound slowly start to build like

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a jet engine and it just crescendoed. And you're

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like, Holy cow. And you really do have the hair

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on your back of your neck stand up because it's

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a sound that for your first time person, you've

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never heard something like that, especially on

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a golf course for God's sakes. Right. Right.

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Oh, absolutely. Yeah. And were you there on a

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tournament day or were you there on a practice

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day? I was there on a practice practice day.

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So I couldn't even imagine what it was like for

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like a tournament. You know, when Tiger, you

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know, made that amazing putt on 17, I can only

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in the back of my mind, try to, you know, get

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a glimpse of what that sound was like. And I'm

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sure it was just all inspiring. So I've got to

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correct myself. I'm making sure we autocorrect

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while we're doing this. So 2019, you are correct,

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with Tiger winning. And Francisco Molinari was

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the guy I was thinking of because they were all

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paired up. Tiger, Tony Finau, and Molinari were

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all paired up in that same group. And that's

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where Tiger hits it on the green on 12, and then

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both those guys dump it in the water, and that

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was essentially the end of there. Tournament.

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Their tournament, you know, he goes on and he

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birdies 15. And it's just, they've done, you

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know, over the years, they've changed the way

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the course looks because they did tiger proof

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it. He was negative 13 in that year. And I believe,

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I'm going to look that up while we're talking

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here too, I think it was negative 18 in the 1997

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year. Holy cow. Yeah. That's when the, like the,

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you know, the kind of powers that be at Augusta

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kind of got a little, Yeah, they were, they were,

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they were, I think Augusta got a little embarrassed

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by that. Uh, you know, um, you know, he, he definitely

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brought in a whole new generation of golf. And

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I think Augusta was definitely not prepared for

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that. And I think the next year after that, they,

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I think they kind of swung a little too hard.

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If you ask me, I think they, they, they, they

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try to make it too hard. And I just think. not

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that it tiger it tiger proof tiger to be honest

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with you but i think it took half the field that

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had a chance and threw them out for the next

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10 years or so if you know what i mean so if

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i read you from 1997 right there's a negative

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six and negative five you know minus four minus

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three minus three minus two minus two minus two

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minus two it was like six guys at minus two it's

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open now yeah so that that's that's the rest

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of the field and that was That was second place

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was Tom Kite, which is interesting because he's

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one of the shorter hitters, as you kind of remember,

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minus six. And then you had this guy named Tiger

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Woods at minus 18. You know, 12 shots in the

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front. And he did that at the U .S. Open, too,

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when he played Pebble Beach, and he won by 15

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shots or whatever. It's just playing a different

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golf course, right, really. You see Tom Kite

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shoot 69, 66, or 70 the last three rounds, and

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he's doing pretty good, except Tiger shoots 68,

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65, 69. And to your point, it's fun to see some

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birdies. It's fun to see the – like you talked

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about the sounds of the back nine there. Those

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roars at 16 when he chips in and the putt, even

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the putt, I mean, I'm going back some before

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you were born, but the putt that Nicholas made

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on 17 where you, you know, where you kind of

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see him in 1986, like that's such a signature

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moment for that, that golf tournament. Yeah.

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Yeah. So it's, it's, it's just such a great facility.

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Obviously, you know, you kind of always talk

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about that if you ever can get there. More of

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a museum than it is a golf course. It's so tricky

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in person. They were talking about that today.

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Like, again, same thing. 15 handicap guy. What

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does he shoot at Augusta right now? They don't

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break 100. It's not even close. Oh, we're probably

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not. I guarantee you we're not breaking 100 out

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there. I'm shooting 97. I'm posting 97. I'm posting

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97. Um, yeah, I'm sure the, you know, when you

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look at those greens are quick, um, you know,

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the complex is always running fast out there.

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Um, but. You know, one thing you will always

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see at Augusta is it always looks like it's just

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perfect. And, and, and you go there and you,

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and you have a responsibility, you feel a responsibility

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to keep it as perfect as you can. If you know

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what I mean, it's like being at a guest house

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and you're like, I don't want to mess anything

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up because there's nothing out of place. Even

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when you look at the drain cauldron, it's just

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perfect, dude. I mean, you're looking at something,

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it's shiny, it's beautiful. And you're like,

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God, they put even the time into, to that little.

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detail which is amazing yeah now they've got

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the uh they've got the guy the superintendent's

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crew out there with the scissors around the bunkers

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right because they're that's how they're kind

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of manicuring the bunker grass which is amazing

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just the edges everything about it like you said

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i was there but whatever it was 10 years ago

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Steve Bozeman our buddy and it was walking around

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with me and we got you're on hole number three

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four so three is the par four it's kind of like

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a shorter hole sometimes it's a birdie opportunity

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for these guys it's really strategic hole you'll

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see some guys hit iron off the tee versus some

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guys will kind of hit the three wood maybe driver

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because it's all about like the second shot going

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into the hole yeah and then that green is such

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a slopey front to back you know you got to be

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on the you know short of it ideally um short

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of the hole um and then four is a par three that

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can play up to 230 as far as distance over a

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bunker and the green again kind of get that little

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like a peanut shape you know to the right basically

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um so we're on we're kind of on three green we're

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just kind of watching what they're doing end

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of the day and you see these you know you see

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these john deere mowers tractors coming out It

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might have been Toro, actually. I think they're

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a Toro facility. For some reason, that sticks

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in my head. But you see them coming out of the,

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you know, whatever, out of the woods, must be

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kind of near the maintenance department, I guess.

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And you see them in line, like they're staggered,

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right, like three or four of them, and they're

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just going down number three fairway, and they're

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going to cut the fairway in a staggered motion

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just to create that cut, the way that the grass

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is manicured. It's just... And Steve went down

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to like run after them. He got kind of, you know,

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admonished by one of the one of the volunteers.

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Hey, there's no running here at Augusta. And

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he's like, oh, I know. I'm sorry. I just want

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to take a picture. And it's just such a it's

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such a unique facility. You're right. Absolutely.

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I mean, you know, it's it's world it's first

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class, world class all the way around, you know,

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even even down to like. The restrooms, they have

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you in, they have you out. The food is, I mean,

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I think I got a sandwich, a drink, a souvenir

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cup, some kind of like cozy thing. And one other

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little thing, and I think it came up to $10.

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Yeah. And I'm like, where is this out in the

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world? I wish these prices were out in the world,

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but yeah, it's, it's amazing. It's out. And then

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the, you know, the driving range itself is, is

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first class. You could sit there all day and

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watch those guys and just hitting balls on the

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range on that beautiful driving range as it is.

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And that's, that's a newer range too. Meaning

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like when I first got there in 03, 04, that wasn't

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the range. The range was in a different area.

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You kind of. Came in from Washington Street.

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He didn't come down from Beckman's Road. So that's

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a pretty new facility. Probably about 10 to 12

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years, I'd say, maybe. It's 2025. So yeah, probably

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around 2010, I think they put that in and really

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changed even the entrance to how you walk in.

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I still love, even again, for some of the listeners

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who maybe have gotten there, when you walk, you

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know, you kind of walk in through the entry gate

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and then you kind of get into the... clubhouse

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is sort of on the left and the pro shop is sort

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of on the right where you buy all your product

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but then you kind of come up to that little rise

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and then you see number one and like you said

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you see kind of one nine uh you see everything

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kind of going down towards almost like 16 15

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that area but it's you're at the top of the hill

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yep and uh you see i guess you see one two maybe

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eight might be the next hole you see that's a

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par five uh seven so it's just kind of all going

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down but i just put my head in that that alistair

00:13:49.720 --> 00:13:54.159
mckenzie bobby jones world of 1934 was the first

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time that they played the tournament so you know

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whatever that is early 30s when they're kind

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of building this course and you know just the

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vision just the vision and the ability to see

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that yeah you know and and it's it's amazing

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because i think you know both Bobby Jones and

00:14:10.490 --> 00:14:12.750
Alistair McKenzie, both when they got on the

00:14:12.750 --> 00:14:15.429
property, I, I think they did some moving around,

00:14:15.549 --> 00:14:18.289
but I really think that it's really, as Bobby

00:14:18.289 --> 00:14:20.850
Jones said, that that place was set there divine

00:14:20.850 --> 00:14:23.570
by God to have a golf course there. I mean, it

00:14:23.570 --> 00:14:26.870
really is. It really does. When you look at the

00:14:26.870 --> 00:14:28.769
holes, I mean, it, you know, I'm sure they did

00:14:28.769 --> 00:14:31.110
some jostling and moving around, but I mean,

00:14:31.129 --> 00:14:34.289
it really does set up pretty well for a, a golf

00:14:34.289 --> 00:14:37.580
course. Absolutely. Amazing. Yeah. Yeah, and

00:14:37.580 --> 00:14:40.259
another signature of the course, and it's funny,

00:14:40.340 --> 00:14:42.620
some of these guys, they kind of outdrive this

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part of the characteristic of the golf course

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now, but you do see that on certain holes, 7

00:14:47.600 --> 00:14:50.679
and 14. Those are two par 4s, not really kind

00:14:50.679 --> 00:14:53.139
of talked about too much. 17 actually has some

00:14:53.139 --> 00:14:55.500
of this component, too. Those are all, they're

00:14:55.500 --> 00:14:57.879
three par 4s. They actually all face the same

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way. I mean, they're all going from one side

00:15:00.610 --> 00:15:03.009
of the course to the other. But all of the holes

00:15:03.009 --> 00:15:06.309
are slight little dogleg lefts, and the fairways

00:15:06.309 --> 00:15:09.389
all have slight to the right components to them.

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So it works against the way that you're trying

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to shape the shot. And like I said, now these

00:15:15.149 --> 00:15:17.210
guys just kind of bomb it over the trees and

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pass as an Eisenhower tree out there, and that's

00:15:20.090 --> 00:15:22.940
not even considered anymore type of thing. But,

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you know, and then all three of those greens,

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7, 14, and 17, they're all different green complexes.

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And, again, 7 is one of the hardest, like, stroke

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over average holes that you'll see out there

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just because the green is so kind of tricky.

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You can, you know, depending on the pin position

00:15:40.799 --> 00:15:43.460
where they put it, you can kind of get the one

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on, I think, Saturday where it does kind of funnel

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down to the right and you can kind of hit it

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off the backboard. I guess the best way to say

00:15:52.559 --> 00:15:54.580
it, T -Mac, is you don't aim at the hole very

00:15:54.580 --> 00:15:57.519
often out there. You really aim at different

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parts of the green or different parts of the

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fairway to make the ball end up going wherever

00:16:02.220 --> 00:16:03.919
you want it to be. Well, I think you bring up

00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:07.259
a great point is that, you know, the imagination

00:16:07.259 --> 00:16:09.879
that Bobby Jones wanted to bring to the game.

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And that was one of them is that if you want

00:16:12.740 --> 00:16:14.840
to get it close to the hole, you've got to, you

00:16:14.840 --> 00:16:16.379
know, it's almost like playing snooker. I've

00:16:16.379 --> 00:16:18.919
got to send it up against that backboard over

00:16:18.919 --> 00:16:22.139
there and bring it down. Um, you know, now with

00:16:22.139 --> 00:16:23.960
the new wedges, kind of the guys kind of take

00:16:23.960 --> 00:16:26.460
that out a little bit, but you really kind of

00:16:26.460 --> 00:16:30.139
had to, you know, use angles and, and, and imagination

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to get the ball to really where you want it to.

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And even when you're out there in the fairway,

00:16:34.919 --> 00:16:37.059
you've got to think about, you know, not just

00:16:37.059 --> 00:16:39.899
your distance, but what are, what's my feet going

00:16:39.899 --> 00:16:41.600
to be like, you know, am I going to be uphill

00:16:41.600 --> 00:16:44.220
downhill? You know, how does that go into the

00:16:44.220 --> 00:16:47.159
green? And there's so much thinking that you

00:16:47.159 --> 00:16:50.799
have to do. Um, just with, with your setup alone

00:16:50.799 --> 00:16:54.399
in, in the angles, um, that, that you, you really,

00:16:54.440 --> 00:16:57.259
I'm sure it's just an absolute mind test, you

00:16:57.259 --> 00:17:00.419
know, even from hole to hole. Yeah, it's, uh,

00:17:00.440 --> 00:17:03.759
it, it is, it's, it's a great, you know, it's,

00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:06.960
it's. it's a start. It's funny again, being up

00:17:06.960 --> 00:17:09.440
here and now for the fall winter in Boston and

00:17:09.440 --> 00:17:12.440
kind of the whole like anticipation of spring

00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:15.599
people getting excited. We've had two good days

00:17:15.599 --> 00:17:17.940
in the past two weeks. The other 12 days are

00:17:17.940 --> 00:17:20.779
like today, which it's 38 degrees and it's sunny,

00:17:20.880 --> 00:17:23.319
but we wouldn't be playing cause it's too windy.

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But you know, last Friday was 67 and we played,

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but it is that passage of, of spring and whatever

00:17:30.740 --> 00:17:32.319
you want to call it. It's the first tournament's

00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:35.160
first major. Yeah. You know, it's a different

00:17:35.160 --> 00:17:37.720
feel than when you're in Florida because it's

00:17:37.720 --> 00:17:41.240
so nice all the time, realistically, down there.

00:17:41.960 --> 00:17:44.180
So you do kind of get a different feel being

00:17:44.180 --> 00:17:46.799
up here with the excitement, the anticipation

00:17:46.799 --> 00:17:49.779
of the tournament coming up. Yeah. It's almost

00:17:49.779 --> 00:17:53.460
like hopeful, we'll call it. So, you know, that's

00:17:53.460 --> 00:17:56.809
if you think you can play it. Well, it definitely

00:17:56.809 --> 00:17:58.730
has the start of that new year for you guys,

00:17:58.789 --> 00:18:00.809
right? I mean, you know, everything's cranking

00:18:00.809 --> 00:18:03.869
on up. The grass is green. The birds are singing.

00:18:04.009 --> 00:18:06.869
It's been cold and gray long enough. And now

00:18:06.869 --> 00:18:08.750
we're going to get to watch Augusta. So, yeah,

00:18:08.829 --> 00:18:12.450
I get that. That's for sure. Yeah. Did you happen

00:18:12.450 --> 00:18:14.349
to go out on the whole number five out there

00:18:14.349 --> 00:18:19.029
at Augusta? I was on all of them. I tracked all

00:18:19.029 --> 00:18:21.190
of them. Yes, sir. So I was on number five for

00:18:21.190 --> 00:18:25.670
sure. Yes. I always get that. long par 4. They

00:18:25.670 --> 00:18:28.029
backed that thing up a little bit since Tiger

00:18:28.029 --> 00:18:31.450
won it. It's got two massive bunkers left. There's

00:18:31.450 --> 00:18:34.690
another one. The hole works left and you've got

00:18:34.690 --> 00:18:37.130
to make sure you hit it right of these bunkers.

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That green is arguably the most diabolical kind

00:18:42.029 --> 00:18:45.029
of green that's out there. It just doesn't get

00:18:45.029 --> 00:18:47.529
viewed again enough because you've got to see

00:18:47.529 --> 00:18:50.420
the early golf channel. you know, coverage of

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it to kind of see what it's doing. But it's,

00:18:52.119 --> 00:18:54.279
it's so tricky, so tricky. And you're hitting,

00:18:54.380 --> 00:18:56.359
I mean, me and you were hitting hybrids into

00:18:56.359 --> 00:18:59.400
it, maybe seven woods for me. And these guys

00:18:59.400 --> 00:19:01.599
are hitting still, they're hitting six irons

00:19:01.599 --> 00:19:04.480
and seven irons, which means it's still a 190

00:19:04.480 --> 00:19:08.579
to 200 yard shot. And it's, it's, there's just

00:19:08.579 --> 00:19:10.839
some holes out there that you just, you make

00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:12.940
par and you walk away because you know that you

00:19:12.940 --> 00:19:15.619
got some par fives coming up. You know, you got

00:19:15.619 --> 00:19:17.579
a couple, maybe par threes that you can kind

00:19:17.579 --> 00:19:21.480
of get to. get close to but a lot of those par

00:19:21.480 --> 00:19:24.539
fours are really just let me let me make my four

00:19:24.539 --> 00:19:26.900
number one number one let me make my four let

00:19:26.900 --> 00:19:29.980
me start well yes yes just hold on to the par

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fours if you can they really are tough and you

00:19:33.500 --> 00:19:35.880
know true coming back to the bunker you could

00:19:35.880 --> 00:19:39.230
actually you could probably I would be able to

00:19:39.230 --> 00:19:41.369
stand in that bunker and probably raise my club

00:19:41.369 --> 00:19:43.910
up and it would probably just get to the top

00:19:43.910 --> 00:19:46.529
of the ridge. You would probably, you know, you'd

00:19:46.529 --> 00:19:49.069
stand up and more than half of your club would

00:19:49.069 --> 00:19:51.190
be up over that thing. But I mean, you could

00:19:51.190 --> 00:19:54.289
really, you could hide a VW bug in one of those

00:19:54.289 --> 00:19:56.630
things if you wanted. It really is deep. I mean,

00:19:56.650 --> 00:19:58.170
if you got in one of those, you're pitching out

00:19:58.170 --> 00:20:01.210
sideways. Yep. Yep. Absolutely. And that's those

00:20:01.210 --> 00:20:03.289
couple of ferry bunkers or greenside bunkers

00:20:03.289 --> 00:20:06.500
up on five that are. The greenside bunker on

00:20:06.500 --> 00:20:08.559
four looks challenging. There's just so much

00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:11.420
good character to it. It is because we know it.

00:20:11.440 --> 00:20:14.079
It's because the U .S. Open travels every year,

00:20:14.140 --> 00:20:15.819
so you don't pay attention. You don't know the

00:20:15.819 --> 00:20:18.279
courses as much as the British Open. Yeah, we

00:20:18.279 --> 00:20:20.839
all kind of know St. Andrews, and that's probably

00:20:20.839 --> 00:20:25.640
it on that rotation. That's about it. Yeah, PGA

00:20:25.640 --> 00:20:28.000
Championship, different year. So this is the

00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:30.799
one constant in sort of the calendar year, the

00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:34.589
beginning of the golf season. The hope and the

00:20:34.589 --> 00:20:37.150
excitement, all that stuff. So, yeah, it's a

00:20:37.150 --> 00:20:40.309
really, really pretty exciting time. Do you have

00:20:40.309 --> 00:20:41.809
any picks? Do you have anybody that you're kind

00:20:41.809 --> 00:20:45.589
of tracking? Yeah, so my picks for this year,

00:20:45.690 --> 00:20:47.589
I'm going with Scotty Scheffler. He's trending

00:20:47.589 --> 00:20:49.670
in the right direction. I think he's going to

00:20:49.670 --> 00:20:52.210
get over this hand thing. My second pick would

00:20:52.210 --> 00:20:54.789
definitely be Rory. He is coming off a very strong

00:20:54.789 --> 00:20:58.029
win with the players. I think he's a good pick

00:20:58.029 --> 00:21:01.769
right there. And I would say my dark horse would

00:21:01.769 --> 00:21:05.799
be Terrell Hatton. okay yeah he's always strong

00:21:05.799 --> 00:21:08.279
he's very like competitively strong mental guy

00:21:08.279 --> 00:21:10.640
yeah he's a fiery kind of guy he reminds me of

00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:12.980
myself out there on the course you know always

00:21:12.980 --> 00:21:15.779
mumbling and babbling to himself about you know

00:21:15.779 --> 00:21:17.779
things that really shouldn't be mattering but

00:21:17.779 --> 00:21:20.440
you know there i am that's good that's it how

00:21:20.440 --> 00:21:23.759
about yourself I'm probably going to go with,

00:21:23.839 --> 00:21:26.380
I think Morikawa's got a good chance. I think

00:21:26.380 --> 00:21:28.960
he's one of the best ball strikers. Yeah, he's,

00:21:28.960 --> 00:21:31.619
I guess, you know, T. Green currently, I think

00:21:31.619 --> 00:21:34.079
he's the leader on tour, which is still important

00:21:34.079 --> 00:21:35.960
out there. He's not as long as some of the other

00:21:35.960 --> 00:21:39.410
guys, but of course. you know, you can, you don't,

00:21:39.410 --> 00:21:42.630
you, you length is good, but kind of preciseness

00:21:42.630 --> 00:21:45.630
is more important. Correct. Um, so that's, that's

00:21:45.630 --> 00:21:48.609
always a good one. I like the Ludwig Aberg. Yes.

00:21:49.009 --> 00:21:51.690
Yeah. Uh, we just, he's just got such a solid

00:21:51.690 --> 00:21:54.289
golf swing. He's, you know, had a win earlier

00:21:54.289 --> 00:21:57.490
this year. And so kind of those two, and then,

00:21:57.529 --> 00:21:59.769
you know, we'll see what Bryson does. I think

00:21:59.769 --> 00:22:02.069
Bryson's, it's just funny that you don't pay

00:22:02.069 --> 00:22:04.900
attention to the live tour guys. Right. Cause

00:22:04.900 --> 00:22:07.000
we don't see them. So you kind of forget about

00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:11.059
Kepka Bryson. And yeah, it's just, I mean, to

00:22:11.059 --> 00:22:12.599
be honest with you now that they're, they're

00:22:12.599 --> 00:22:16.019
charging 60 bucks to watch it. And I just, I

00:22:16.019 --> 00:22:18.359
just wait for the YouTube video to watch it and

00:22:18.359 --> 00:22:21.160
I watch it that way, but you're right. It's sad

00:22:21.160 --> 00:22:22.619
because you've got all these players that you

00:22:22.619 --> 00:22:24.819
want to see and they just come to, you get to

00:22:24.819 --> 00:22:26.640
see them only in the, in the four majors nowadays.

00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:29.859
So it's tough to really say, Hey, how is Bryson

00:22:29.859 --> 00:22:31.599
in shape? But I think he's coming around pretty

00:22:31.599 --> 00:22:35.099
good. Right. Absolutely. Yeah. You've been able

00:22:35.099 --> 00:22:36.420
to get out and play at all. You got anything

00:22:36.420 --> 00:22:38.160
you're working on in your golf swing right now?

00:22:38.359 --> 00:22:42.440
Got out and played yesterday, working on the

00:22:42.440 --> 00:22:44.859
short game, working on chipping. I've been listening

00:22:44.859 --> 00:22:48.619
to a gentleman by the name of Dan Graves. He's

00:22:48.619 --> 00:22:51.220
a short game guy. If you guys happen to check

00:22:51.220 --> 00:22:53.240
him out, but I've been using his technique for

00:22:53.240 --> 00:22:57.269
chipping and pitching. Um, and really, really

00:22:57.269 --> 00:22:59.970
seeing some really good results. So if you guys

00:22:59.970 --> 00:23:02.089
have a chance, I think he's, uh, he's got a book

00:23:02.089 --> 00:23:05.049
out called the three releases, uh, of the wedge.

00:23:05.210 --> 00:23:07.970
Uh, so if you guys get a chance, listen to him,

00:23:08.049 --> 00:23:09.990
I think, and he's also got some YouTube videos,

00:23:10.089 --> 00:23:13.009
which are absolutely amazing. Uh, so that's what

00:23:13.009 --> 00:23:14.890
I'm really working on. Everything else is kind

00:23:14.890 --> 00:23:16.789
of coming in place, but you gotta have a decent

00:23:16.789 --> 00:23:19.750
short game to score. How about yourself? What

00:23:19.750 --> 00:23:21.890
you working on big guy? Yeah, we went and hit

00:23:21.890 --> 00:23:24.579
some balls on Monday and that. you know, 43 degree

00:23:24.579 --> 00:23:26.740
weather with the heater behind us type of stuff.

00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:29.339
And same, same story. We're just going to keep,

00:23:29.380 --> 00:23:31.299
keep the boat, keep the movement going. But,

00:23:31.359 --> 00:23:34.400
uh, we're filming each other. And I got Scott

00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:36.339
out there with me and, you know, just watching

00:23:36.339 --> 00:23:39.559
him repeat his golf swing and hitting, you know,

00:23:39.559 --> 00:23:41.019
he's like, I'm going to aim at that pole out

00:23:41.019 --> 00:23:42.740
there with the driver. And he hits the pole,

00:23:42.940 --> 00:23:45.660
you know, four out of five times, you know, it's

00:23:45.660 --> 00:23:47.839
two 60. It's not too 80. Like it used to be,

00:23:47.880 --> 00:23:50.869
but we're looking at. golf swing video and i'm

00:23:50.869 --> 00:23:52.950
like i hit seven irons and i'm hitting seven

00:23:52.950 --> 00:23:57.170
irons to the one 165 kind of 160 165 marker and

00:23:57.170 --> 00:23:59.809
they're good they're you know good little consistent

00:23:59.809 --> 00:24:03.089
pattern but the downswing i'm not making a good

00:24:03.089 --> 00:24:05.250
follow through my right foot's not off the ground

00:24:05.250 --> 00:24:07.289
it's like all the things i teach and talk about

00:24:07.289 --> 00:24:10.250
like hey get get shifted get your transfer yeah

00:24:10.250 --> 00:24:12.730
but then at some point the ball is going 160

00:24:12.730 --> 00:24:15.230
165 to the target you're trying to hit out you're

00:24:15.230 --> 00:24:18.529
like Yeah, don't look a gift horse in the mouth,

00:24:18.609 --> 00:24:20.329
right? I mean, there's more than one way to skin

00:24:20.329 --> 00:24:23.549
a cat. We are who we are. We don't get a chance

00:24:23.549 --> 00:24:25.769
to play as much or hit balls as much as we would

00:24:25.769 --> 00:24:29.029
like to. So for us, or at least for me right

00:24:29.029 --> 00:24:31.410
now, and for you with your little ones, you know,

00:24:31.410 --> 00:24:33.990
it's like, hey, let me try to get out there and

00:24:33.990 --> 00:24:37.849
break 80, feel good about it, you know, make

00:24:37.849 --> 00:24:40.890
a couple putts, maybe get under 77. And right

00:24:40.890 --> 00:24:43.089
now that's who we are. So keep working at it

00:24:43.089 --> 00:24:46.460
always. But the last. Last stat I'll give you.

00:24:46.480 --> 00:24:48.059
I heard this one, Scott, actually. We were talking

00:24:48.059 --> 00:24:51.839
about this one this morning. The number of range

00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:54.680
balls that Bryson hit yesterday. That was kind

00:24:54.680 --> 00:24:57.259
of the stat. And then we know who the second

00:24:57.259 --> 00:24:59.440
guy is, too. So kind of give me what your ballpark

00:24:59.440 --> 00:25:02.019
is you think that Bryson went out there and hit

00:25:02.019 --> 00:25:04.359
range balls with yesterday. I'm going to say

00:25:04.359 --> 00:25:12.150
he hit 22 shots. 22 shots? 22 shots. He hit 493

00:25:12.150 --> 00:25:15.210
range balls yesterday. Holy cow. Okay. I was

00:25:15.210 --> 00:25:17.089
way off. I thought he was just like working on

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a few things. Okay. No. 493. Holy cow. I mean,

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I'd be dead. Yeah. Max Homo was second. He was

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at like 290, which is kind of the point is a

00:25:30.309 --> 00:25:32.730
little bit like, you know, these guys work at

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it, T -Mac. We talk about it almost every podcast.

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Like you can't just expect to think about it

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and be good. they are top of their level best

00:25:40.799 --> 00:25:43.500
players in the world. And they're hitting two

00:25:43.500 --> 00:25:46.660
to three to 400 golf shots in a practice session

00:25:46.660 --> 00:25:50.740
two days before the event. So, wow. That's, that's

00:25:50.740 --> 00:25:52.420
a, that's a lot of work that they're putting

00:25:52.420 --> 00:25:54.420
in before the tournament and, and, you know,

00:25:54.420 --> 00:25:56.900
just the routine. I mean, you just, the dedication,

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I mean, you gotta be dedicated for. God, that's

00:26:00.900 --> 00:26:03.460
gotta be a two, three hour process. I would think

00:26:03.460 --> 00:26:06.460
so. Absolutely. You know, hitting balls, analyzing,

00:26:06.859 --> 00:26:11.079
thinking, talking, you know, wow. That's the

00:26:11.079 --> 00:26:13.400
quad next to you. Track man, something next to

00:26:13.400 --> 00:26:15.980
you that you're looking at each number and trying

00:26:15.980 --> 00:26:18.079
to improve on it. No, it's, it's, and it's that

00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:20.940
1 % better that they talk about. Just get 1 %

00:26:20.940 --> 00:26:24.119
better. And that's, that's amazing. So, yeah.

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So last thing before we break, what would be

00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:30.599
the tip of the day for some of our students?

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What would be a tip of the day that you would

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say? I'm a big fan. I'm going to say for this

00:26:36.039 --> 00:26:38.359
one, I'm going to say I keep seeing in my in

00:26:38.359 --> 00:26:40.759
my students that we work with. You got to keep

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your arms extended a long way on both sides of

00:26:44.079 --> 00:26:46.839
the swing. I think that people really kind of

00:26:46.839 --> 00:26:49.539
get used to get at that habit at the bottom of

00:26:49.539 --> 00:26:52.339
the swing of the impact there. They're trying

00:26:52.339 --> 00:26:54.740
to. you know you always hear kind of release

00:26:54.740 --> 00:26:57.660
the face or make the club face close but you

00:26:57.660 --> 00:27:01.039
do that you do that with your body and your arms

00:27:01.039 --> 00:27:03.460
are really they're set up at the beginning for

00:27:03.460 --> 00:27:05.220
a reason where they're extended away from your

00:27:05.220 --> 00:27:08.480
body and You make your rotation with your stomach

00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:10.799
turns to the right, your arms are staying in

00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:13.779
that same triangular fashion. You don't want

00:27:13.779 --> 00:27:15.720
your right elbow to come close to your body in

00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:17.700
your backswing, yet you want it to come close

00:27:17.700 --> 00:27:20.200
to your body on your downswing. But you've got

00:27:20.200 --> 00:27:22.599
to get – and watch these guys. Watch these guys

00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:25.460
hit driver this week. They are not – there's

00:27:25.460 --> 00:27:28.869
just so much width in their backswings. follow

00:27:28.869 --> 00:27:31.650
-throughs are always wide and long and finishing

00:27:31.650 --> 00:27:34.930
towards the target type of stuff and the hinge

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and the whole you know the hinge and kind of

00:27:37.309 --> 00:27:40.269
the fold of the hands on both sides it happens

00:27:40.269 --> 00:27:43.329
later it happens later than you think and i think

00:27:43.329 --> 00:27:45.289
that's a good one for people to kind of if you

00:27:45.289 --> 00:27:47.750
want some more length in your in your distances

00:27:47.750 --> 00:27:51.250
then you need to keep the club head essentially

00:27:51.250 --> 00:27:53.470
further away from the center part of your body

00:27:53.470 --> 00:27:56.839
yeah for a longer time. Absolutely. Well put

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right there. And, and something I have always

00:27:58.700 --> 00:28:01.200
taken away from, you know, watching you do lessons,

00:28:01.279 --> 00:28:04.380
you've always reiterated the point to your, to

00:28:04.380 --> 00:28:06.539
your students to maintain their structure out

00:28:06.539 --> 00:28:09.559
in front of them. So I've always taken that to

00:28:09.559 --> 00:28:11.940
heart and that, that really does matter. You

00:28:11.940 --> 00:28:13.920
know, you need to keep that width as you're talking

00:28:13.920 --> 00:28:16.680
about throughout your swing. Yeah. What's your,

00:28:16.700 --> 00:28:18.920
what's your short game. So give us a little insight

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into the graves thing. Like what's, what's something

00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:24.160
you're working on with the short game. type of

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thing right now? Uh, the big thing I'm working

00:28:26.220 --> 00:28:28.440
on the short game is that I've really, the big

00:28:28.440 --> 00:28:31.460
improvement I have taken is taking my grip from

00:28:31.460 --> 00:28:37.829
being a little too strong and really it really

00:28:37.829 --> 00:28:41.670
enables me to get the toe up a little bit and

00:28:41.670 --> 00:28:43.869
to be able to expose more of the bounce to get

00:28:43.869 --> 00:28:46.650
under it. Um, where I start to get too much of

00:28:46.650 --> 00:28:49.430
a strong grip, I start to get a little bit too

00:28:49.430 --> 00:28:51.569
much of a wrist hinge, and then I'm leading with

00:28:51.569 --> 00:28:54.630
the leading edge too much. Uh, and that's gouging

00:28:54.630 --> 00:28:58.490
the thing. So, and that, that, you know, you'd

00:28:58.490 --> 00:29:00.609
say, Oh, that's kind of an easy change, but something

00:29:00.609 --> 00:29:02.950
I've done for 40 years now, you know, you got

00:29:02.950 --> 00:29:05.329
to kind of think about those things. So that's

00:29:05.329 --> 00:29:07.880
what I'm working on right now. Love it. Love

00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:10.259
it. The point is always working on something,

00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:12.519
both of us. And you guys do that out there too.

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And enjoy watching this amazing event that happens

00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:19.140
every year. And we'll catch up next week. All

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right.
