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Sit back and get ready to take off with Dynamic

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Golf. Welcome back, everybody. Welcome back to

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Dynamic Golf Podcast. I am your co -host, Tim

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McElvenna, and with us as always, my partner,

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Sean Klotz. Hey, Sean, how are things going for

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you, big guy? Hey, T -Mac. Hello, Dynamic Golf

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listeners. Looking forward to talking to you

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guys. We've been out for a couple weeks, and

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we need to kind of get back into it. It's like

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our spring training up here for golf, and this

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is like getting back into the regular season

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for our podcast, too. So we've got so many cool

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events. The golf season is really starting to

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kind of kick in. Obviously, we've got Augusta

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in two weeks, and they've already played the

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Players' Championship. We can't even talk about

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that performance there. So there's just a lot

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of... A lot of good things happening in the world

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of golf right now. Yeah. Yeah. You know, getting

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to a little bit about Augusta, just kind of start

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off with, you can definitely see a lot of good

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players in the stable rounding out and into good

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form, getting ready. The Scotty Shefflers, Rory

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McIlroy, Min Wu now, a lot of good players rounding

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in form. So I think it's going to be a really

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exciting Augusta, especially with not having

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the big cat around anymore. Yeah. I mean, it's

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everything has to come to an end. you know and

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uh you know you and i have both kind of grown

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up with tiger being you know whatever the best

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best player in the world the best championship

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the best putter the best up and down game the

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best grinder he just he he brought so many people

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to the game i mean he just he just transformed

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the game of golf yeah um in many many ways uh

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with the amount of people he brought to the game

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honestly the economic diversity of who he brought

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to the game you know so it's it's poised it's

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ready i mean golf is so volatile right now with

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with live and kind of that whole you know we

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could do hours on that let's just kind of keep

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it keep it basic for today but uh yeah i mean

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seeing rory win it at the at the uh players championship

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you know he arguably in my little head it's always

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easier to make the comment from the couch on

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sunday than playing but he probably should have

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won on sunday i really kind of had it chances

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a couple birdies there on 15 and 16 but uh he

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made it through and he you know won the playoff

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uh on monday do you happen to watch some of that

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most of that yeah i watched the playoff uh you

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know i i'd be honest and i think most people

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would be honest when they saw uh jj spawn stick

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the first one on 17 into the water yeah it would

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to be honest we kind of knew he was under the

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when i saw that first tee shot on 16 and he kind

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of flailed it out to the right i mean i think

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we all know that feeling being so nervous on

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the tee and he just flailed it out to the right

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and you could tell right then and there he was

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nervous uh rory had him on the on the back heel

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to begin with but yeah i watched all the playoff

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but once jj spawn put that uh that first ball

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in the water i i knew it was over especially

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when i watched rory just stick it whole high

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and i was like wow this guy is on fire right

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now It's funny, T -Mac. Like, you know, I think

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we're going to do most of our podcast today on

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kind of part of the mental game of the golf.

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We do a lot of mental stuff on this podcast,

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but I don't think that we can ever do too much

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in the game of golf on the mental side of it.

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But, you know, it's again, that shot, like I've

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had an opportunity to play up there. And Sawgrass

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at Sawgrass TPC. Have you played it? No, I've

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never played it. So I always enjoy hearing stories

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about people when they come to 17 and what it

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looks like, the clubs that they use, the wind

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that they had to deal with. So please tell us,

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what was it like? Please tell us that experience.

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It's just, it's such an exciting, I mean, it's

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such a great golf course to play, obviously,

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because anytime you play a place where you've

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seen tour players play, you get a little more

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inspired. There's actually two. 18th out there

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this place called the valley and then there's

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the stadium course and the valley is on the property

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of uh TPC as well. We played a Pro -Am back probably

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about 10 years ago when I was up at Green Valley

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Country Club. Two -day Pro -Am. Brought three

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of my members from Green Valley. It was just

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a really cool event to play both places. I did

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shoot 93 at the Valley course. Yes, I am a PGA

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professional. I'm okay with all that. That's

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the harder one to me because the stadium course,

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I shot 78. you know back -to -back days like

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it's just funny like you get a little more inspired

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maybe that sometimes it's kind of those courses

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for horses type of thing you know like the valley

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course didn't set up to me the eye lines of it

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the sight lines of it um and again you're just

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inspired i was definitely more excited to play

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stadium course and some of the you know memories

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of some of these guys hitting shots at places

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so so bottom line is there's so many good holes

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in it and you know, golf course is good to you,

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Mac. And you've had this too, when you can still

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remember it when you only played it once and

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you still remember the holes, right? Yeah. Yeah.

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I mean, I've got those memories of Bay Hill.

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Like when I watched the tournament at Bay Hill,

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like I can remember those shots and see those

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shots. Cause I've got to play Bay Hill, but you're

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absolutely right. I'm sure that when you're watching,

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you know, the players championship, you know,

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what the shot is on three or four or any of those

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things. And you've got such a different perspective,

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which is always amazing. When we go back and

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watch tournaments, I always find, you know, even

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like the Valspar, I wasn't very interested in

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the Valspar, but since I've played the Copperhead,

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I will watch the whole tournament now just to

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kind of say, I've been there. I know what that

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looks like. That's a terrible place to be. That's

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a great place to be. So, you know, you get those,

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those great memories like you're talking about

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that mental side. It's. So the things that have

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changed now, again, 53 years old playing, when

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I go to a golf course, you know, for 30 years,

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I never looked at tee boxes. We just kind of

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always went to the back of the tee and pegged

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it up and you went. To the back tee, bro. That's

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what they tell us. Yeah. Now it's like, ah. I

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want to play 65 or 66 or a little bit of who

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you play with. If somebody wants to play 63,

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you'll play there. But the days of 7 ,000 are

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pretty much gone for me. I don't mind saying

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that out loud. But you see these tour players,

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they're playing tee boxes because there's a couple

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at TPC, a couple at Innisbrook, Copperhead, like

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you said, that you just didn't even know were

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back there. 35 yard par threes, you know, normal.

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Yeah. It's amazing when you watch tournaments,

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like I, you know, when I was watching the Valspar,

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I remember sitting on when they. we're teeing

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off on number one and I'm thinking, God, where

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are they teeing off from? And I'm thinking that

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was probably 70 yards back from where we played

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at. And I'm thinking, I didn't even know there

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was a tee box back there. And I mean, it's just,

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they're getting to the point now they're playing

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74, 75, 7 ,600 yards, which is, I mean, just

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wow. Oh, it's crazy. I mean, that tee box on

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number one at Copperheads by the starter shock

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team. Like that thing's back there. Yes. Yes.

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I mean, you're talking to the gallery back there.

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I mean, yeah, absolutely. No, it's so true. It

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is so true. So it's, but yes, I mean, 16, 17,

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18 at TPC are just three amazing holes. You know,

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obviously encourage anybody in Florida. I know

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it's expensive now. That's the other thing has

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changed. Yeah. It's such an expensive golf course.

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It's so hard to get on. we did go up there with

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some members actually from silverado probably

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you know six or seven years ago it was still

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you know 250 but now i think it's pretty exorbitant

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um 550 i believe yeah yeah i think you're right

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i think you're right so it's it it's such a good

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track 16 17 18 the the good thing and you're

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going to see this at augusta coming up here in

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two weeks when you have to make decisions on

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what shot what club to hit off of a tee box you

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know verse and also what club you're going to

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hit either to lay up for the normal people in

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the world or are you going to go for things for

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the other people in the world um you know it

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that that's to me where they become more exciting

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these golf courses because yeah i again i i there's

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just such a limited population that can just

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bomb it and hit the wedges in and you know so

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to play to play that kind of target precision

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sort of think about it which is kind of the way

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it's supposed to be anyways that's what golf

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was correct yeah you know we've kind of turned

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it into this sort of circus of hitting a 350

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and then hitting a wedge on and two putting and

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you know going on yes uh but yeah that you're

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supposed to be able to hit shots and shape shots

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too and that's the other thing i would say back

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nine even front nine at tpc you definitely had

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to be on the correct side of the fairway. You

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couldn't just, you know, kind of hit the fairway.

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A lot of blocked out shots if you're on the wrong

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side of the fairway. Am I right on that? Yeah.

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Yeah. And then that always kind of leads into

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the, you know, into the green complexes and okay,

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are you going to, are you going to short side

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yourself? And, you know, as we, as we get into

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our topic here, you know, of our conversation

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today, like the, one of the differences, one

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of the differences between A sub 80 round, somebody

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shooting in the 70s and somebody shooting 80

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or higher is you will see that person that that's

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a zero to five handicap. They won't short side

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themselves. They just won't. They won't take

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the risk of going at a flag. And we all call

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it with the flag that the superintendent puts

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in a bad spot. Well, yeah, the sucker pin placement.

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Sucker pin placement. We actually have a name

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for it. And yet we still do it. Oh yeah. Fall

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for it every time. Yeah. Oh, I can hit that shot

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with clearance on the left side of the green

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and bunker. I got to cover a barn. Yeah. I can

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hit that shot when you haven't practiced for

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three months or whatever. Right. Correct. Yeah.

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So, so, so to be able to hit to the, the different

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green complexes, we'll probably talk more about

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that. Maybe next week when we start really getting

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into Augusta, you got to be on the correct side.

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of the hole and the correct quadrant, the correct,

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you know, level of the hole type of thing. But

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you also have to have the correct angle, right?

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You know, I think a lot of people, as far as

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short sighting themselves, they always believe

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that if I get closer to the hole, I'm better.

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Um, but, but, you know, if I can, you know, get

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myself to a point where I get a good angle and

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maybe I'm not as close to the pen, it gives my

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wedge a chance to, to release and run and get

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a judge for it. But if I've short sighted myself,

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then I've got to play something very, very tricky,

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very finesse. Um, and I better have a lot of

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touch and a lot of practice. And I guarantee

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you 95 % of us are not doing that. No, no, or,

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or to your point to team Akamok. hitting a full

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shot into a green as opposed to trying to hit

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this half lob wedge, half sand wedge, three -quarter,

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80%. Again, if you have the opportunity to practice

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80%, 56 -degree wedge shots, great, good for

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you. But a lot of us are just kind of making

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this up as we go while we're playing. Yes. So

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they're not. Those guys on TV are not. Those

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guys, they've practiced that 70%, 56 -degree

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wedge shot with low ball spin coming off of it,

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wanting it to stop within seven feet of where

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the ball lands. They have that dialed in. Correct.

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The majority of our listeners don't. And that's

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not a negative to our listeners. It's just play

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to your strengths. Play to what you can hit.

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play to your strengths but the other thing is

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is play to what you practice though too i mean

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if you're a person that's out there driving the

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ball and hitting irons and all that stuff then

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play your full shot if you're not a guy that's

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out there working on your wedges and practicing

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it then why would you lay up to a to a yardage

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that you don't practice to You know, if you're

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practicing a hundred yard shots, then feel comfortable

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with it. Don't get, don't get lost in the mental

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trap that my buddy just put it, you know, 60

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yards ahead of me. And I got to get close to

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them, get to what's comfortable to you, have

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a mental, you know, you gotta be mentally strong

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on that. And I, and I think we're going to get

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to that a little later on in today's subject,

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but you know, you've got to have the, the, the

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mental fortitude to say, listen, I want to go

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to the a hundred yard mark and I want to put

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it there. And I don't care what my playing partners

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say or, or whoever's out there. Wouldn't you

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agree? Yep. Oh, a hundred percent. A hundred

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percent. Yeah. So it's funny. I don't even know

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if you'll remember this team, but you and I played

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in a pro pro event back at TPC Tampa, probably,

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probably within, it was probably 10 years ago.

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Yes. But it was somewhere between eight or 10

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years ago. Yes. And, and this is a positive story.

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It's going to start off sounding like I'm knocking

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you and I'm not, but. At that particular moment,

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at that particular time in the world, like I

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did hit it further than you, probably 15, maybe

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20 yards further with driver. I would agree.

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But there was a par four doggy left par four.

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I think it's number 15 out there. And I remember,

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I remember watching you play the hole and I never

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told you this story, which is kind of funny.

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I watched you play the hole and all you did was

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hit your drive straight, which is like your drive,

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like 97 % of the time you drive straight over

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just over the right -hand side of this water.

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there's a water feature that kind of comes in

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the left side of the hole. And I hit driver into

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the right rough and you got, you know, you got

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about maybe 207 to the flag. It's a long hole.

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It's probably the number one hardest tanning

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cup hole on the course. And you hit your hybrid

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up on the green and you had two putted and you

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made four. And I was over there making six and

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I'm like, Hmm. I probably should have done what

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TMAC did. I remember looking at you after I got

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done with the drive. I looked up at you and I

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said, is this a par five? And you looked at me

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and nope, this is a par four. That's correct.

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So yeah. Yeah. I remember looking at that going,

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wow, this is a par four boy. Welcome to the big

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leagues. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, it's, it's such

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a good, you know, point of the thing of like

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just play to what you just you can do what you

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can do you can't overdo stuff you can't make

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up shots that you haven't practiced you you know

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if you if you hit a draw hit a draw if you hit

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it 225 hit a 225 but you play a lot of golf courses

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playing between 225 and i mean again now i sound

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like you know me and you but like you hit a lot

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of golf you play a lot of golf courses from 225

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to 250 if you select the right tee box to play

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yeah you can enjoy the game quite a bit. Absolutely.

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You know, but playing from the fairway is typically

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the way to start the scoring process. Let's go

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with that. Yeah. I mean, if you, if you, if you

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set yourself up in rough to begin with, or behind

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a tree, then you're, you know, you're, you're

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looking, you're behind the eight ball to begin

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with. Right. And that you're always trying to

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scramble to get that shot back. But if you can

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just, you know, as I said, if you can just hit.

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You know, I look at some of my students and they'll

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hit it 200 or 225 down the middle. And they'll

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look at me and go, well, you know, I need to

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hit it 250, 260. And I'm thinking, well, who

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needs 260 into the woods? You know, it's 225

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down the middle, grab a longer iron. You're still

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straight, you know, play to your strengths. But

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I think, you know, you got to play to your mental

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strengths as we've talked about. Well, again,

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if they're picking the right tee boxes to play,

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we'll start there. It really does start from

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that. And don't have the ego on the first tee.

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Who cares? You paid your money. You want to play

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with your buddies. You're out there to have a

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good time. You just got to, hey, you know what,

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guys? I'm good from 6 ,200. I don't feel comfortable

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from 65. Because throughout the round, it'll

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start wearing on you as you do have to hit more

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hybrids and kind of like five irons in the greens

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versus seven irons and, you know. six irons and

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even par threes i see par threes coming to play

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a lot where that's a 190 par 3 instead of a 165

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and that really does change the scoring part

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of that I would like for them to change the name

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of the teas. That's the problem is that, you

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know, the red teas is called the ladies teas

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and there ain't no man that's going to go up

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to the ladies teas. Even when they're seniors,

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they're like, I won't go up to the ladies tea.

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We just need to need to, to uniform the names

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and just get rid of this stigma that sticks with

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these, these colors and just be like, Hey, there's

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a, there's a forward tea. There's a middle tea

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and a back tea. And these are the yardages. Which

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one would you like to play today, sir? There's

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no, you know, label or anything like. that but

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i guarantee if somebody says hey the red teas

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is ladies tea i guarantee a 80 year old man's

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meal i'm gonna play the whites you know it's

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just that stigma they've kind of started to do

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that but i mean they call purple or silver or

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something right they've kind of started putting

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some different colors to them but you're still

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right it's it's still and then you know as as

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we're changing the game of golf we might as well

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change the that number that says par on the scorecard

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too. We know we've had this conversation before,

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but I want the bogey number. I want, I want there

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to be a 90 line on that scorecard instead of

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the 72 line. Correct. And almost as you pick

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your, as you pick your tee boxes, let's pick

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your par as well. Yes. Which car are you shooting

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for? Absolutely. And that should be the, you

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know, there should be a 72 on the card, obviously,

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but there should be a number. If you're a, you

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know, a zero to 10 handicap, this is the number

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that we're looking for, right? A 90 or an 85,

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you know, put that number on the card, let people

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see that and let them know that it's, it's acceptable.

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You know, people, you know, if they don't see

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that number on there and they just keep seeing

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the 72, they, they, they have this self -worth

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that they're not performing very well. Every

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hole. Yeah, every hole. Because they walk off

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with a five on a par four. And, again, I won't

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get into all my little theory there, but, you

00:18:25.670 --> 00:18:27.529
know, they should make a five on that hole. So

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they think they've made a bogey, and really it's

00:18:29.789 --> 00:18:32.069
their par. Correct. It's really their par. So

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let's go with a 72, an 80, and a 90 on a scorecard.

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And then if you're, you know, pretty blatantly,

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if you're not good enough to get to the 90, keep

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practicing. You'll get there. Yeah. But let's

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make the whole thing way more achievable. let's

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put three different you know pars on scorecards

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with the different uh t boxes that are that are

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uh Non -binary with name, with colors, whatever

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you want to call it. Correct. Yeah, yeah. All

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right, we've figured out a lot, T -Mac. We can

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go home and call it a day. I'm with that. Exactly.

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But recently you were talking about that you

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came on down to Tampa and that you got to play

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a couple rounds of golf. And I think the listeners

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would really enjoy some of the stories or tales

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between those two rounds and what you did mentally

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different from the first round to the second.

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round would you like to share on some of that

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sean yeah i think there's there's just so much

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that can be brought from this you know when when

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i just come out of that mindset of teaching for

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the last two months indoors in a track man you

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know watching people trying to help them mechanically

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and then you get into a okay now i'm going to

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go play my own game of golf and i'm going to

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have a target and i'm going to not have a you

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know it's going to be outdoors and the weather

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is going to be nice by the way uh the ball is

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going to fly the correct distance or further

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than it does normally not further but the correct

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distance yeah um you know you're not playing

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in 48 degrees and it's windy and cold you're

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playing in 75 to 85 and the ball's flying what

00:20:05.700 --> 00:20:08.339
you expect it to so i mean again there's just

00:20:08.339 --> 00:20:11.380
so many factors you get off the plane on sunday

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afternoon you go to a you drive for six hours

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back and forth throughout the state of florida

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you get to a golf course monday morning 12 o

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'clock for an 1140 you know you get there at

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1145 for 12 o 'clock tee time you hit 12 balls

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in the first you know on the range you're like

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oh well i should be able to shoot yeah perfect

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warm -up i haven't putted since january i haven't

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made a putt i haven't chipped since the middle

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of march or whatever when i went to charleston

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so there's just so many things that come into

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the play so anyways the the the first hole par

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four and then i'll obviously listeners You'll

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stay awake, I promise. I won't go through this

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hole by hole. But I think the first two holes

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are really important to kind of share. So first

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hole is a par four. The dog egg left. Diamond

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Hill Country Club. Golf course down at Brandon.

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Public place. Let's kind of get to that because

00:21:02.279 --> 00:21:04.920
it's a little important. Public facility. People

00:21:04.920 --> 00:21:10.039
behind you. You know, kind of a busy day. It's

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a par four that you should hit it out to the

00:21:11.579 --> 00:21:14.349
right. I hit the driver, the three drivers I

00:21:14.349 --> 00:21:16.069
hit on the range, I hit really well. So I'm like,

00:21:16.089 --> 00:21:17.569
oh, okay, I'll hit driver instead of hitting,

00:21:17.630 --> 00:21:20.630
you know, seven wood off the tee. Hold it, and

00:21:20.630 --> 00:21:22.670
somehow, someway, I actually drove the green.

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Like, literally drove the green. It's about,

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you know, it's about 280 probably to drive the

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green. Ball probably bounced it, you know, let's

00:21:30.869 --> 00:21:34.230
be realistic. Ball probably bounced it 265. Might

00:21:34.230 --> 00:21:36.150
have rolled up there the last 15, but you're

00:21:36.150 --> 00:21:40.089
on the green. Yeah, great. You know? So immediately,

00:21:40.190 --> 00:21:42.440
my first thought is, don't three -butt. That's

00:21:42.440 --> 00:21:46.920
positive. That's a positive one, right? Yeah.

00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:50.700
I got about 60 feet, and I three -butted. I missed

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the second one. That's fine. Whatever. So I still

00:21:52.980 --> 00:21:55.099
made par, but I still feel bad about making par.

00:21:55.440 --> 00:21:58.720
Why? You know, again, you're a six -handicap

00:21:58.720 --> 00:22:01.059
golfer. Par is pretty good. You should make par

00:22:01.059 --> 00:22:03.559
a lot. Yes. But I'm already feeling bad about

00:22:03.559 --> 00:22:06.000
it. Second tee shot is par five, dogleg right,

00:22:06.079 --> 00:22:10.859
or straightaway. I decide to... Now I decide

00:22:10.859 --> 00:22:13.859
to try to hit a draw because, you know, I...

00:22:13.859 --> 00:22:16.559
Just hit a draw on the hole before, yeah. Yeah,

00:22:16.559 --> 00:22:19.500
exactly. And I don't. I leave the face open.

00:22:19.539 --> 00:22:22.019
I hit the ball in the water. Great. Okay, now

00:22:22.019 --> 00:22:25.019
it's kind of reachable. It's about 210 for the

00:22:25.019 --> 00:22:28.000
second shot. So I've got one drive, two penalty.

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I hit my third shot. Got 210. I'm like, all right,

00:22:30.579 --> 00:22:33.359
if I just hit this thing up by the green, chip

00:22:33.359 --> 00:22:36.039
it on, make a putt, I can still make par. Hit

00:22:36.039 --> 00:22:40.380
my 7 -wood up by the green. About 12 yards from

00:22:40.380 --> 00:22:42.539
the green. Great. Life is good. Got a chance.

00:22:42.660 --> 00:22:45.400
I chip it. Yeah, I chip it. I chip it again.

00:22:45.559 --> 00:22:48.240
I chip it over the green. I chip it one more

00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:50.599
time over the green. I chip it on and I chip

00:22:50.599 --> 00:22:54.779
it for nine. With four chip shots and a penalty.

00:22:56.200 --> 00:22:59.559
That's tough. So, yeah, exactly. So all the excitement

00:22:59.559 --> 00:23:01.700
of the day is like. I'm looking for the cart

00:23:01.700 --> 00:23:04.480
roll at this point. That's correct. I wish I

00:23:04.480 --> 00:23:07.779
drank. I wish I drank. So, you know, you kind

00:23:07.779 --> 00:23:10.400
of keep going around and start, you know, almost

00:23:10.400 --> 00:23:12.920
getting the rust off again. You get, go, go through

00:23:12.920 --> 00:23:17.299
the front nine, shoot 44 with the nine. So that's

00:23:17.299 --> 00:23:19.900
five over on the one hole and eight over total.

00:23:20.119 --> 00:23:22.400
So you're three over on the other, you know,

00:23:22.420 --> 00:23:25.099
eight holes and okay, great. Perfect. Number

00:23:25.099 --> 00:23:28.480
10 is a drivable par four to the right wind in

00:23:28.480 --> 00:23:30.680
our face. And I'm like, all right, I'm going

00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:32.240
to play smart. I'm not going to drive it over

00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:34.640
the water. I'm going to play left, open the face

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up, hit it in the water. And now I'm Roy, help

00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:44.640
me out. Roy McEvoy? Yeah, now I'm Roy McEvoy.

00:23:45.059 --> 00:23:47.319
I'm like, all right, I'm not just going up there

00:23:47.319 --> 00:23:49.539
200 yards from here because I carried, you know,

00:23:49.539 --> 00:23:52.220
most of the water. Could have just carried it,

00:23:52.279 --> 00:23:54.680
brought it up and dropped it and hit a ball in

00:23:54.680 --> 00:23:57.079
the green and made five. No, no, no, I'm going

00:23:57.079 --> 00:24:01.140
to keep hitting a ball from the tee box. Right?

00:24:01.799 --> 00:24:04.859
Hit another one in the water. hitting five off

00:24:04.859 --> 00:24:07.599
the tee, hit that one way left, but at least

00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:11.460
it's not near the water. Hit it, chip it on,

00:24:11.619 --> 00:24:13.940
two putt. Now I've made my second nine of the

00:24:13.940 --> 00:24:18.779
day. Great. 18 shots in two holes. Unbelievable,

00:24:18.859 --> 00:24:22.440
right? And nine over in two holes. Nine over

00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:24.660
in two holes because one was a par five. Yeah,

00:24:24.680 --> 00:24:27.440
so nine over in two holes. Great. And then I

00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:30.519
go birdie, birdie, par, par, par, par, par, birdie,

00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:34.829
par. finish the day so three birdies so you finish

00:24:34.829 --> 00:24:38.190
shooting 85 with when you got so you're 12 over

00:24:38.190 --> 00:24:40.630
13 over for the day and you're nine over for

00:24:40.630 --> 00:24:45.789
two holes so such a dichotomy of feelings in

00:24:45.789 --> 00:24:49.250
that whole world right yes i mean you have any

00:24:49.250 --> 00:24:51.190
rounds like that or have you had stuff like that

00:24:51.190 --> 00:24:53.470
where you've had to kind of recover and kind

00:24:53.470 --> 00:24:57.240
of bounce back I think I've had a few. I can't

00:24:57.240 --> 00:25:01.079
really think of any per se, but there's definitely

00:25:01.079 --> 00:25:03.279
been, you know, I've definitely had those rounds.

00:25:04.089 --> 00:25:07.130
where it wasn't very good. And either the last

00:25:07.130 --> 00:25:09.369
hole or the last two holes I've made birdie or

00:25:09.369 --> 00:25:12.509
Eagle. And to me, it's, I've always said to my

00:25:12.509 --> 00:25:14.890
playing partner, Vaz, that's like putting whipped

00:25:14.890 --> 00:25:19.069
cream on shit. You know, that's, that's what

00:25:19.069 --> 00:25:21.529
I kind of remember about those rounds, but yeah,

00:25:21.630 --> 00:25:23.869
I've played with people before, like yourself

00:25:23.869 --> 00:25:26.269
that have made big numbers on the, on the front

00:25:26.269 --> 00:25:28.490
nine and through some parts of the back. And

00:25:28.490 --> 00:25:31.069
then for whatever reason they find something,

00:25:31.150 --> 00:25:34.849
you know, or, or just it clicks, you know, all

00:25:34.849 --> 00:25:37.089
that time that they had out there trying to figure

00:25:37.089 --> 00:25:39.150
it out, something they found mentally clicks

00:25:39.150 --> 00:25:40.970
and then they're off running. And you're like,

00:25:41.029 --> 00:25:42.890
wow, this is fun to watch for the last three,

00:25:42.950 --> 00:25:44.809
four or five holes or something like that. You're

00:25:44.809 --> 00:25:47.789
like, this horse is running. Um, but then you,

00:25:47.809 --> 00:25:49.630
you get back to the clubhouse and you let them

00:25:49.630 --> 00:25:53.710
know, Hey, by the way, you know what the difference

00:25:53.710 --> 00:25:56.549
is? There's a big part. Like when you make the

00:25:56.549 --> 00:25:58.750
nine, right? there's two ways you can go about

00:25:58.750 --> 00:26:01.589
this do you just let the whole thing dissolve

00:26:01.589 --> 00:26:04.990
and just kind of destroy your entire day and

00:26:04.990 --> 00:26:07.990
or the other part of it is you've definitely

00:26:07.990 --> 00:26:11.789
like unleashed the worry factor because there's

00:26:11.789 --> 00:26:14.569
no more worry yeah it doesn't matter right if

00:26:14.569 --> 00:26:18.089
you could play in doesn't matter world from the

00:26:18.089 --> 00:26:22.009
first tee box you'd probably be pretty good but

00:26:22.009 --> 00:26:24.650
you know as you as you kind of go along as you

00:26:24.650 --> 00:26:27.900
kind of start oh i'm i'm one oh if you start

00:26:27.900 --> 00:26:30.859
counting right i'm one over through six okay

00:26:30.859 --> 00:26:33.619
as long as i could just keep it going and then

00:26:33.619 --> 00:26:35.880
you make a double and a par and a bogey and you're

00:26:35.880 --> 00:26:38.440
four over and you're like and whatever that is

00:26:38.440 --> 00:26:40.579
relative to your golf game you know listeners

00:26:40.579 --> 00:26:42.960
i don't we're just talking about this particular

00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:46.339
type of format so if you're trying to break 90

00:26:46.339 --> 00:26:49.920
and you you know you're four over or you're two

00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:52.000
over after six holes and you're trying to break

00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:55.119
90 you're in an uncomfortable zone. That's why

00:26:55.119 --> 00:26:56.559
I call it right. You're just not comfortable.

00:26:56.680 --> 00:27:00.240
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And once you get that

00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:02.140
done, you know, once you get that, that mess

00:27:02.140 --> 00:27:04.539
out of the way, you know, cause. I think what

00:27:04.539 --> 00:27:06.839
it is, is that before we start the round, we

00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:09.700
have this, we have a clean card. We have a blank

00:27:09.700 --> 00:27:11.619
piece of paper. It's beautiful. Nothing's been

00:27:11.619 --> 00:27:13.980
ruined on this piece of paper. Let's say there's

00:27:13.980 --> 00:27:16.480
hope. There's hope. It's a beautiful piece of

00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:18.259
paper that we're looking at. And then we go and

00:27:18.259 --> 00:27:20.720
throw a big, ugly spot on it. And we're like,

00:27:20.740 --> 00:27:22.880
well, and then we're like, I don't know. But

00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:25.440
if you, you know, I've always been thought taught

00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:27.839
of it. Once you make that mess, let's figure

00:27:27.839 --> 00:27:30.920
out how we can one, clean it up and to try to

00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:33.809
make it part of what we're trying to do. Right.

00:27:33.950 --> 00:27:36.390
I mean, let's not try to ignore it or anything

00:27:36.390 --> 00:27:38.170
like this. Let's try to make it a part of what

00:27:38.170 --> 00:27:40.289
we're doing. Let's learn from that experience.

00:27:41.009 --> 00:27:44.329
And if you keep your head down and you keep the

00:27:44.329 --> 00:27:46.410
work going, when you get done, you'll look at

00:27:46.410 --> 00:27:49.210
that piece of paper and know that you made something

00:27:49.210 --> 00:27:51.569
of what we would call art or something like that.

00:27:51.650 --> 00:27:54.289
You know, something that we've done. But if you

00:27:54.289 --> 00:27:56.470
just take off the you know, if you go, oh, my

00:27:56.470 --> 00:27:58.750
God, I've got this ugly spot on this thing or

00:27:58.750 --> 00:28:02.220
I've. you know, degraded this thing, then you

00:28:02.220 --> 00:28:04.220
just get mentally down. You've just got to kind

00:28:04.220 --> 00:28:06.460
of figure out a way to get yourself say, Hey,

00:28:06.460 --> 00:28:09.079
this is what it is. Let's move around it. And

00:28:09.079 --> 00:28:11.019
you know, I'm in a little bit of a hole. How

00:28:11.019 --> 00:28:15.180
can I dig myself out? Yeah. So it's, it's so

00:28:15.180 --> 00:28:18.960
good. Golf is boring golf period. Like that should

00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:20.940
be like a bumper sticker. Scott Lynch. Good.

00:28:21.599 --> 00:28:24.500
Scott Lynch. Uh, my, my buddy up here, Scott

00:28:24.500 --> 00:28:29.940
Johnson, uh, tour players. uh you know scheffler

00:28:29.940 --> 00:28:32.400
one of the descriptions sometimes he gets is

00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:35.740
he's kind of boring yeah yeah and rory rory's

00:28:35.740 --> 00:28:37.819
like i i want to be boring i want to be more

00:28:37.819 --> 00:28:40.000
like scotty scheffler yeah i don't want to you

00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:42.960
know right so so the the whole mindset of the

00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:45.819
one shot at a time play the shot in front of

00:28:45.819 --> 00:28:48.940
you which is not you know revolutionary stuff

00:28:48.940 --> 00:28:52.180
this is bob rotella this is Old cliche and stuff.

00:28:52.339 --> 00:28:53.599
I mean, they all say it, right? Yeah, exactly.

00:28:53.900 --> 00:28:56.039
Play one shot at a time. Play the shot in front

00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:58.000
of you. Play what you can play. You can't make

00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:00.920
– my big one, and I said this to myself a little

00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:04.079
bit recently, par fives, like you can't make

00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:07.279
birdie from the tee box. No. You know? You can't

00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:08.720
make birdie from the tee box. So what are you

00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:13.599
trying to do hitting it 261 instead of 255? Just

00:29:13.599 --> 00:29:16.319
hit it 255, whatever the number is in your world.

00:29:16.420 --> 00:29:19.700
Yeah. Again, from the people that are listening,

00:29:19.779 --> 00:29:22.720
hopefully. that are trying to break 90 and they're

00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:25.319
like, ah, if I can just make, you know, two more

00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:28.200
pars or whatever, uh, you know, yeah, hit it,

00:29:28.220 --> 00:29:32.519
hit it 220 yards in the fairway and go like,

00:29:32.579 --> 00:29:34.480
you're going to be like you said about the tree.

00:29:34.579 --> 00:29:37.059
You can't, you can't make par from behind a tree.

00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:41.140
No, no. Um, so yeah, so play, play boring golf.

00:29:41.259 --> 00:29:42.819
That's, that's kind of the one of the first things.

00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:46.079
And the other thing I go with is, and my girls

00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:48.720
are older than your girls, but you still watch

00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:51.960
the same Disney movies I do, is the Hakuna Matata

00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:56.480
mentality. Hakuna Matata mentality. When the

00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:59.140
monkey hits the lion on the top of the head,

00:29:59.339 --> 00:30:01.680
what did you do that for? It doesn't matter.

00:30:01.740 --> 00:30:05.039
It's in the past. It is. When you make that nine,

00:30:05.279 --> 00:30:08.160
you cannot fix it. All you can do is move forward.

00:30:08.420 --> 00:30:13.710
Correct. Correct. getting onto another same subject

00:30:13.710 --> 00:30:16.650
here, you talked about how you played your second

00:30:16.650 --> 00:30:19.490
round and you made some mental changes, uh, for

00:30:19.490 --> 00:30:21.150
your second round. What, what did you kind of

00:30:21.150 --> 00:30:23.529
do there to kind of help our, some of our listeners

00:30:23.529 --> 00:30:26.329
as well? Yep. Oh yeah, absolutely. So I played

00:30:26.329 --> 00:30:29.410
Buckhorn, uh, golf country club. So already,

00:30:29.630 --> 00:30:31.890
and it's funny, it's just, I didn't even realize

00:30:31.890 --> 00:30:33.490
I was going to do this, but like the kind of

00:30:33.490 --> 00:30:36.250
the same mentality about the TPC sawgrass. Like

00:30:36.250 --> 00:30:38.369
I was more excited to play Buckhorn cause I knew

00:30:38.369 --> 00:30:40.809
it would be in. better shape, and for the record,

00:30:40.890 --> 00:30:42.990
Diamond Hill was in really good shape for Diamond

00:30:42.990 --> 00:30:46.029
Hill. But you're just kind of amped up. You're

00:30:46.029 --> 00:30:47.750
playing in a nice place, right? You're just kind

00:30:47.750 --> 00:30:51.630
of excited. There's not three groups behind you

00:30:51.630 --> 00:30:54.829
on the tee box. It's a private facility, so we're

00:30:54.829 --> 00:30:56.670
lucky enough to play some courses like this throughout

00:30:56.670 --> 00:31:00.150
our time. You're playing with good guys. I got

00:31:00.150 --> 00:31:02.569
there an hour and a half early, so now I could

00:31:02.569 --> 00:31:04.089
chip and putt, and I'd already had the round

00:31:04.089 --> 00:31:06.700
before, so there's just so many... Things already

00:31:06.700 --> 00:31:09.259
in place, you know what I'm saying? They're already

00:31:09.259 --> 00:31:16.039
in place, ready to go. But my biggest thing on

00:31:16.039 --> 00:31:20.640
the range was that I committed to playing a fade

00:31:20.640 --> 00:31:24.980
the entire day, period. Every shot, every swing.

00:31:25.819 --> 00:31:29.160
I know how to hit a fade. You've played with

00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:31.779
me enough, T -Mac. We've tried to work on it.

00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:33.079
You've tried to help me. We've tried to hit a

00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:37.049
draw on the range at Silverado. i just uh whatever

00:31:37.049 --> 00:31:39.609
it is like it's just more body type it's just

00:31:39.609 --> 00:31:43.170
a comfortable shot i know what to do and i can

00:31:43.170 --> 00:31:47.230
do it and my fade is you know gotten way better

00:31:47.230 --> 00:31:49.730
in the past five years meaning it used to be

00:31:49.730 --> 00:31:52.150
kind of that weak butter cut they always call

00:31:52.150 --> 00:31:55.089
it which is always just a nice way to dress up

00:31:55.089 --> 00:31:58.970
the pig yeah oh it's a nice little butter cut

00:31:58.970 --> 00:32:01.819
i wish i could have that i'm like but Bottom

00:32:01.819 --> 00:32:03.539
line is like, I just decided to play this fade

00:32:03.539 --> 00:32:06.119
the whole day. And from the first tee box on,

00:32:06.200 --> 00:32:09.599
there's four driving holes at Buckhorn that really

00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:12.279
scare the life out of me. And number five, have

00:32:12.279 --> 00:32:14.299
you played Buckhorn? No, I've never played Buckhorn.

00:32:14.380 --> 00:32:18.599
So, okay. Yeah. So number five is a pretty narrow

00:32:18.599 --> 00:32:22.259
par four. You could literally hit seven iron

00:32:22.259 --> 00:32:24.900
off the tee and then hit like a hybrid into it

00:32:24.900 --> 00:32:26.940
because it's kind of a downhill. It's the number

00:32:26.940 --> 00:32:29.299
one hardest handicap all along the course. But

00:32:29.299 --> 00:32:32.420
if you do hit driver and if you do get the fairly

00:32:32.420 --> 00:32:34.619
or even the right rough, you're going to have

00:32:34.619 --> 00:32:36.759
a pitching wedge left in based on the conditions

00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:39.220
where the tee boxes are playing and kind of how

00:32:39.220 --> 00:32:41.259
it's rolling out in Florida right now as far

00:32:41.259 --> 00:32:44.420
as the, you know, grass. Yeah, conditions. So,

00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:47.380
yeah. So that was one where, you know, and I.

00:32:47.769 --> 00:32:50.809
At that point, I was even going into number five,

00:32:50.849 --> 00:32:52.809
so there's a little bit of that fear in my head.

00:32:53.089 --> 00:32:55.029
I'm like, oh, don't screw it up. Don't screw

00:32:55.029 --> 00:32:57.890
it up. You're right in your comfort zone. And

00:32:57.890 --> 00:32:59.809
you do. You just really got to commit to aiming

00:32:59.809 --> 00:33:03.930
at the left. There's a fence down on the left

00:33:03.930 --> 00:33:06.109
side of the fairway and a tree to the right of

00:33:06.109 --> 00:33:09.089
it. And I'm like, okay, aim at that tree and

00:33:09.089 --> 00:33:11.670
play the fate. And I did, and it worked out,

00:33:11.710 --> 00:33:14.269
and life was great. And then, you know, like

00:33:14.269 --> 00:33:17.210
hole number 13, hole number 11, they're all.

00:33:17.710 --> 00:33:20.150
They're all, which is part of why I like buckling

00:33:20.150 --> 00:33:23.589
because it all sets up for good fades. Number

00:33:23.589 --> 00:33:26.210
15, yeah, there's four holes that are really

00:33:26.210 --> 00:33:28.849
committed that, as I'm telling you the story,

00:33:29.009 --> 00:33:31.450
you shouldn't even ever try to hit draws on these

00:33:31.450 --> 00:33:33.029
holes because if you're going to try to hit a

00:33:33.029 --> 00:33:35.690
draw, all four of those holes you're aiming over

00:33:35.690 --> 00:33:38.250
out of bounds or water to try to make the ball

00:33:38.250 --> 00:33:41.150
draw back. So why wouldn't you just aim over

00:33:41.150 --> 00:33:43.980
the golf course? And if it goes straight, it

00:33:43.980 --> 00:33:46.279
goes straight. That's great. If you fade it,

00:33:46.339 --> 00:33:48.140
you're probably going to be in a fairway. That's

00:33:48.140 --> 00:33:51.700
great. You know? Yeah. If you roll it off the

00:33:51.700 --> 00:33:53.740
tee and push it or something, you're still fine.

00:33:53.859 --> 00:33:57.960
But why should you ever bring in hitting over

00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:03.079
out of bounds, water, hazard, trees, whatever?

00:34:03.720 --> 00:34:05.779
It's another good little lesson for our listeners.

00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:10.739
Don't aim over stuff that's bad. Well, over the

00:34:10.739 --> 00:34:12.800
grass. I think the other thing that you, you

00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:15.179
really bring to the point is that if you commit

00:34:15.179 --> 00:34:20.039
to a shot shape, you have a lot more ability

00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:23.280
to commit to a target, right? Like you're, you're

00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:25.519
looking at a target all the time to the left.

00:34:25.900 --> 00:34:28.800
You're not looking, you know, when you have the

00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:30.800
two way miss, or at least when I do, I'm looking

00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:32.559
at things to the right, looking at things to

00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:34.480
the left and I'm on the tee box, you know, and

00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:36.519
it's the last minute decision. Is it a draw or

00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:39.190
a fade? You know, but it'd be halfway down in

00:34:39.190 --> 00:34:40.909
the swing, right? Yeah. Oh, and we're going to,

00:34:40.929 --> 00:34:43.750
we're doing the draw on it today. Um, but if

00:34:43.750 --> 00:34:46.809
you commit to a shot shape for the day on the

00:34:46.809 --> 00:34:49.530
range, you commit to where you're going to be

00:34:49.530 --> 00:34:51.869
putting your, your eyeline and your sight line.

00:34:52.230 --> 00:34:54.590
And it just, to me, it just makes things so much

00:34:54.590 --> 00:34:56.449
simpler. I'm just looking on one direction. I'm

00:34:56.449 --> 00:34:59.710
working off that all day long. Um, unless there's

00:34:59.710 --> 00:35:02.269
some serious hazard that I can't do, then I'm

00:35:02.269 --> 00:35:04.829
maybe adjusting that, but I'm still going to

00:35:04.829 --> 00:35:07.929
play my fade or whatever it is. Right. But it

00:35:07.929 --> 00:35:10.070
just commits you to looking on one side of the

00:35:10.070 --> 00:35:12.550
course and working off of that. That's what I'm

00:35:12.550 --> 00:35:16.050
getting from this. It's so true. And then, you

00:35:16.050 --> 00:35:19.429
know, second shots, same exact way. You know,

00:35:19.449 --> 00:35:22.710
iron shots are just same exact way. You're not

00:35:22.710 --> 00:35:26.230
I don't think I'm not sure that I aimed at a

00:35:26.230 --> 00:35:29.230
flag the whole day. I really aimed at either

00:35:29.230 --> 00:35:31.849
left side of the green or center of the green

00:35:31.849 --> 00:35:35.920
the entire time. And the stats of the day, and

00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:37.480
this is kind of like another good one for some

00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:40.059
listeners to, first of all, understand which

00:35:40.059 --> 00:35:41.980
stats to sort of pay attention to and which ones

00:35:41.980 --> 00:35:45.980
don't. Don't pay attention to. So I'm in the

00:35:45.980 --> 00:35:49.079
plane Wednesday morning flying back, and I'm

00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:50.599
just kind of thinking about my round. So I go

00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:53.659
through shot by shot the round. A shot 73 was

00:35:53.659 --> 00:35:55.340
the score, which is great for me. I'm pretty

00:35:55.340 --> 00:35:58.179
excited about that. That's great. Yeah, exactly.

00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:02.860
And I had a double. I doubled number 16. Um,

00:36:03.239 --> 00:36:05.039
it didn't, didn't let it affect me. I got, uh,

00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:08.559
I went far birdie on 17, 18, which is good. Um,

00:36:08.820 --> 00:36:12.360
but I hit, this is a pretty, this is a pretty

00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:16.559
2025 PGA tour round of golf here that I'm going

00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:20.519
to explain stat wise. I hit four fairways. Okay.

00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:23.280
Okay. I hit four fairways, but the fairways that

00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:29.019
I missed, they were not, um, like penalty areas.

00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:31.679
Like I just, happened to miss the right side

00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:33.199
of the, you know, it was on the right side of

00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:36.260
the rough or whatever. I did hit it into three

00:36:36.260 --> 00:36:39.639
fairway bunkers, but I made par out of all the

00:36:39.639 --> 00:36:41.880
three fairway bunkers, which is pretty good.

00:36:41.960 --> 00:36:44.360
That's amazing right there. Right. Yeah. Like,

00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:46.619
like I hit, I hit three greens from the three

00:36:46.619 --> 00:36:49.119
fairway bunkers with pitching wedge, nine iron

00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:50.960
and pitching wedge. That's feeling confident

00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:52.820
with a short game right there. I can tell. Yeah.

00:36:53.139 --> 00:36:56.739
Yeah. Or, or ball striking or where the low point

00:36:56.739 --> 00:36:58.480
of your swing is or all the things we talk about

00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:01.849
and other stuff. You know, that's pretty, you

00:37:01.849 --> 00:37:04.409
know, you got to be stable, whatever. So four

00:37:04.409 --> 00:37:09.909
fairways, 12 greens, huge. That's PGA, starting

00:37:09.909 --> 00:37:11.769
to get PGA Tour average. They're pretty dumb

00:37:11.769 --> 00:37:15.610
with what they do. They're like 14 now. But 12

00:37:15.610 --> 00:37:18.170
greens in regulation, up and down four out of

00:37:18.170 --> 00:37:20.670
five times. Good. Guess what? That's important.

00:37:20.909 --> 00:37:25.469
Yes. Two bunkers up and down, green side bunkers.

00:37:26.139 --> 00:37:30.619
and then uh 31 putts and you know the whole putting

00:37:30.619 --> 00:37:34.719
world is like if you hit 12 greens your putts

00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:38.159
per round is going to go up because you're on

00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:40.340
the green more often right so i think it's a

00:37:40.340 --> 00:37:43.420
misleading stat sometimes you hear on tour i

00:37:43.420 --> 00:37:46.300
i like the strokes gain one i think i understand

00:37:46.300 --> 00:37:49.159
it but you know i'm saying like it's a if people

00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:52.159
track stuff you should really track to me it's

00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:55.489
those four numbers fairways greens up and downs

00:37:55.489 --> 00:37:59.409
putting you can tell a ton about what you need

00:37:59.409 --> 00:38:02.269
to work on if you can track those four stats

00:38:02.269 --> 00:38:07.710
yeah so just for our listeners right there and

00:38:07.710 --> 00:38:10.010
i think you bring up a really good point with

00:38:10.010 --> 00:38:12.989
just that number of 31 putts that meant that

00:38:12.989 --> 00:38:18.460
you only swang the club 42 times Right. So why

00:38:18.460 --> 00:38:20.460
would I go? And this is what I'm trying to get

00:38:20.460 --> 00:38:22.480
at. Why would I go to the range and pound a thousand

00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:26.260
balls? Right. It took you 42 shots to get around

00:38:26.260 --> 00:38:30.159
the course. It took you, you know, 31 putts where,

00:38:30.219 --> 00:38:32.900
you know, the, the, you had that club in your

00:38:32.900 --> 00:38:36.539
hand the most of any club. Right. So I think

00:38:36.539 --> 00:38:38.780
the big point here and what we need to get to

00:38:38.780 --> 00:38:41.159
is if you really want to work on your game, work

00:38:41.159 --> 00:38:43.699
on that putting, right. Work on that putting.

00:38:44.670 --> 00:38:49.269
I chipped it five times, so that's 36, 31 putts

00:38:49.269 --> 00:38:53.389
plus five chips. So now we're 36 and 37, right?

00:38:53.469 --> 00:38:56.170
We're 37 times hitting the golf ball. We are

00:38:56.170 --> 00:39:05.510
11, 12 times a hit driver. So, yeah, you start

00:39:05.510 --> 00:39:07.289
breaking those numbers down, you get micro on

00:39:07.289 --> 00:39:11.150
it, T -Mac, you're right. But I think the keys

00:39:11.150 --> 00:39:13.750
that I took from the round, first of all, was...

00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:16.699
A couple things like, okay, prepare, be there

00:39:16.699 --> 00:39:20.280
on time, get enough practice in, commit to what

00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:26.280
you're doing. And it was such a measured round,

00:39:26.380 --> 00:39:28.900
for lack of a better word. It was so even keeled.

00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:31.820
And again, when you're playing well, right? If

00:39:31.820 --> 00:39:34.820
our listeners are trying to shoot 82 or they're

00:39:34.820 --> 00:39:36.920
trying to shoot 88 or they're trying to shoot

00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:42.780
75 or 95. Yeah. Not being like emotionally. up

00:39:42.780 --> 00:39:46.659
and down if something bad sort of happens. And

00:39:46.659 --> 00:39:49.940
this is what you saw. This is what you see with

00:39:49.940 --> 00:39:52.219
tour players. And I see it with Scott Johnson,

00:39:52.340 --> 00:39:56.260
who's my head pro. And I think watching him play

00:39:56.260 --> 00:39:59.460
in Charleston for those four days and seeing

00:39:59.460 --> 00:40:02.099
how many greens he hits, he hits a lot of fairways

00:40:02.099 --> 00:40:04.079
too. He's just a really, really, really good

00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:07.199
ball striker. I'm okay with me being a little

00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:09.639
bit off on my driver as long as my iron play.

00:40:10.349 --> 00:40:12.789
is good and i can you know i know that i can

00:40:12.789 --> 00:40:15.190
still hit from the right side of the rough or

00:40:15.190 --> 00:40:17.070
whatever and there's not much rough in florida

00:40:17.070 --> 00:40:18.849
right now anyways but you get my point right

00:40:18.849 --> 00:40:21.989
like hey maybe it's more important for you for

00:40:21.989 --> 00:40:25.670
me to kind of go work on your ball striking the

00:40:25.670 --> 00:40:28.789
low point of your swing the consistency of where

00:40:28.789 --> 00:40:30.969
you're delivering the club that's the only way

00:40:30.969 --> 00:40:33.230
that you get out of three bunkers uh from 120

00:40:33.230 --> 00:40:37.429
to 140 yards away yeah is to know and to be confident

00:40:37.429 --> 00:40:40.300
that Right. There's a lot of people getting ferry

00:40:40.300 --> 00:40:42.900
bunkers and they're petrified and they hit it

00:40:42.900 --> 00:40:45.920
fat. Yeah. Typically. Yeah. You know, the big

00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:47.880
thing for me, at least for fairway bunkers, is

00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:49.719
I get that back in my stance. And the first thing

00:40:49.719 --> 00:40:52.539
I'm doing is I'm getting that ball. That's, you

00:40:52.539 --> 00:40:54.320
know, that's my thing. Other than, you know,

00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:56.360
the the green side bunker, it's completely the

00:40:56.360 --> 00:40:57.980
opposite. But that fairway bunker, I'm going

00:40:57.980 --> 00:41:00.039
to get a little bit back in my stance and I'm

00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:02.280
going to try to pick it or pinch it or whatever

00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:04.880
it is. But I'm not going to try to get in before,

00:41:04.940 --> 00:41:07.400
you know, before into the sand before that. That's

00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:10.469
for sure. that's really like i said like knowing

00:41:10.469 --> 00:41:12.829
where the bottom of your swing is and you and

00:41:12.829 --> 00:41:14.550
that's not something you can figure out while

00:41:14.550 --> 00:41:16.829
you're in there no you've had to figure that

00:41:16.829 --> 00:41:21.150
out prior to uh hitting the leaf in the backyard

00:41:21.150 --> 00:41:24.650
at my house in peabody massachusetts for you

00:41:24.650 --> 00:41:26.369
know the first three years of playing golf or

00:41:26.369 --> 00:41:29.269
hitting the t at the driving range just you know

00:41:29.269 --> 00:41:31.610
hitting the t knowing where it's at just really

00:41:31.610 --> 00:41:33.969
really understanding that right yeah recalling

00:41:33.969 --> 00:41:36.900
those mental uh those mental memories to, to

00:41:36.900 --> 00:41:38.800
bring you through this moment. Right. You know,

00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:41.380
those practice hours. That's it. And we both

00:41:41.380 --> 00:41:44.320
teach a ton and, you know, there's so much mechanical

00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:46.780
stuff going on with what sometimes when we get

00:41:46.780 --> 00:41:52.019
into teaching, but it is at its essence, a athletic

00:41:52.019 --> 00:41:56.800
motion and a, and a non -mechanical sport. Yeah.

00:41:57.119 --> 00:42:00.179
When, when you're playing well, it is, it is

00:42:00.179 --> 00:42:04.789
a hundred percent muscle memory. mental you know

00:42:04.789 --> 00:42:07.570
there's no mechanics of where's my right elbow

00:42:07.570 --> 00:42:11.170
halfway down on my downswing how is my left hip

00:42:11.170 --> 00:42:14.289
rotated it's not it's just not No, no. I mean,

00:42:14.289 --> 00:42:16.429
you're, you're really, to be honest with you,

00:42:16.449 --> 00:42:18.269
at least when I'm in the zone and playing like

00:42:18.269 --> 00:42:20.849
that, uh, probably the last thing I'm thinking

00:42:20.849 --> 00:42:23.809
about is my golf swing. You know, I'm just thinking

00:42:23.809 --> 00:42:26.510
about scoring, you know, where am I going to

00:42:26.510 --> 00:42:28.610
get on that green? I'm looking at things. I'm,

00:42:28.610 --> 00:42:30.789
I'm, you know, there's not even a thought about

00:42:30.789 --> 00:42:33.010
how to take the club back or where it needs to

00:42:33.010 --> 00:42:37.150
be or a pressure point, or it's just point and

00:42:37.150 --> 00:42:41.130
shoot. You know what I mean? And I think you,

00:42:41.150 --> 00:42:43.409
you brought up a really good point, especially

00:42:43.409 --> 00:42:46.769
for tour players as well, is that you get excited

00:42:46.769 --> 00:42:49.210
about certain courses, right? You get mentally

00:42:49.210 --> 00:42:51.769
into it. Right. And I think it's important to

00:42:51.769 --> 00:42:55.389
understand. And when you feel that mental, you

00:42:55.389 --> 00:42:57.650
know, that I'm really excited about this course,

00:42:57.710 --> 00:42:59.670
you know, I'm going to go play, let's say stream

00:42:59.670 --> 00:43:01.409
song or something like that. And I'm excited

00:43:01.409 --> 00:43:03.429
about the course. I want to go check out the

00:43:03.429 --> 00:43:06.929
facilities. You know, you're just. you're already

00:43:06.929 --> 00:43:10.409
at an advantage. Right. Um, but when you go play

00:43:10.409 --> 00:43:16.150
and not to knock it down, you know, I'm not nearly

00:43:16.150 --> 00:43:18.969
as excited. I probably played it a thousand times.

00:43:19.190 --> 00:43:21.929
Um, I'm going out there with my buddies. Um,

00:43:22.010 --> 00:43:24.309
my results are not going to be that good. Right.

00:43:24.429 --> 00:43:27.090
I went in there with a five minute practice,

00:43:27.130 --> 00:43:29.900
probably, you know, the turn I'm going to buy

00:43:29.900 --> 00:43:31.579
a beer or something like that. My round's not

00:43:31.579 --> 00:43:33.539
going to be that good, but if I'm going to a

00:43:33.539 --> 00:43:35.800
place that I'm mentally excited about and I'm

00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:38.460
going to be challenged by other golfers, then

00:43:38.460 --> 00:43:41.519
you can bet that, that at least us pros, we're

00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:43.000
going to get mentally excited about that and

00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:45.500
play well. Mostly back. I'm going to bring it.

00:43:45.539 --> 00:43:47.360
I'm going to bring it to this. If you go to play

00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:51.460
stream song, or if you go to play X golf course

00:43:51.460 --> 00:43:53.760
around us, I don't want to name the names, but

00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:56.019
we, you know what I'm talking about? Yeah. I'm

00:43:56.019 --> 00:43:59.119
telling you, it comes down to the wardrobe. right

00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:01.280
no yeah all right you're gonna all right you're

00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:03.460
cleaning your shoes your clubs you're cleaning

00:44:03.460 --> 00:44:05.820
your shoes you're wearing a different shirt you're

00:44:05.820 --> 00:44:07.860
but there's so many times that we've you know

00:44:07.860 --> 00:44:10.260
because we played let's just use silverado because

00:44:10.260 --> 00:44:12.659
we we've been there forever and played so many

00:44:12.659 --> 00:44:15.519
league rounds and wednesday nights and you know

00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:18.460
fun saturday afternoon but i mean it's just it's

00:44:18.460 --> 00:44:21.800
it's jump out of work it's go go meet up with

00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:25.039
the guys but it's It's 5 .30 at night. It's the

00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:27.019
end of the day. There's so much to have a different

00:44:27.019 --> 00:44:30.139
mindset. The ultimate casual golf, right? Right,

00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:33.880
yeah, to a 10 a .m. tee time that you're going

00:44:33.880 --> 00:44:35.579
to play with three other guys that you enjoy

00:44:35.579 --> 00:44:38.539
playing with. The golf course is pristine. It's

00:44:38.539 --> 00:44:41.239
just such a mental thing. So I guess the point

00:44:41.239 --> 00:44:44.340
is it's okay because both are good. You need

00:44:44.340 --> 00:44:47.260
some of the relaxed fun playing with your buddies

00:44:47.260 --> 00:44:50.400
rounds too. But that's where you do work on the

00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:54.949
draw. Right. That's the type of rounds you do

00:44:54.949 --> 00:44:56.730
work on the draw. But when you're playing and

00:44:56.730 --> 00:44:59.130
you're trying to do something or whatever, yeah,

00:44:59.329 --> 00:45:01.889
dance with the girl you brought. That was my

00:45:01.889 --> 00:45:05.909
University of Tampa. senior golf coach, Rick

00:45:05.909 --> 00:45:07.909
Christie, you know, that was what he told me.

00:45:07.989 --> 00:45:09.969
Klotz, just dance with the girl you brought.

00:45:10.130 --> 00:45:12.670
She might be ugly, but just play with her. Absolutely.

00:45:12.809 --> 00:45:15.389
Okay. Coach. Okay. I get it now. I think I get

00:45:15.389 --> 00:45:17.829
it. Right. And, and you're right. It doesn't,

00:45:17.829 --> 00:45:20.190
you know, and you're absolutely right. They don't

00:45:20.190 --> 00:45:22.150
draw pictures on the scorecard. Nobody cares

00:45:22.150 --> 00:45:25.829
if you play an ugly fade or a snap hook, but

00:45:25.829 --> 00:45:30.190
if you put a 72, 73, 74 on the card and you're

00:45:30.190 --> 00:45:32.059
whooping people. booty then they're going to

00:45:32.059 --> 00:45:34.460
be like well maybe maybe i need to be doing that

00:45:34.460 --> 00:45:37.900
instead the last thing i'll say about all that

00:45:37.900 --> 00:45:40.900
t -mac is so a couple things so you know 85 73

00:45:40.900 --> 00:45:44.860
two different days yeah you can you some people

00:45:44.860 --> 00:45:47.199
some people listening don't have the ability

00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:50.579
and don't take that arrogantly to have that differential

00:45:50.579 --> 00:45:53.780
some people are going to shoot 88 to 92 for the

00:45:53.780 --> 00:45:57.119
rest of their lives yeah great that's fine now

00:45:57.559 --> 00:46:00.559
If you want to try to shoot 82 or 81, come see

00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:02.739
us because we can probably help you try to go

00:46:02.739 --> 00:46:07.300
from 88 to 81. But there's some of that. There's

00:46:07.300 --> 00:46:09.199
definitely some of that. There's like, hey, you

00:46:09.199 --> 00:46:11.800
know what, Sean, that's great. I can't shoot

00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:14.099
74. Okay, well, if you're shooting 95, let's

00:46:14.099 --> 00:46:16.679
try to shoot 85. Whatever the differential is,

00:46:16.739 --> 00:46:19.880
that's not the point. The other thing I would

00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:22.239
say is, do you know how much my three daughters

00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:27.929
cared about me shooting 73? none right do you

00:46:27.929 --> 00:46:31.789
know how much my ex -wife not like people don't

00:46:31.789 --> 00:46:35.070
care it's it's it's important to you we put the

00:46:35.070 --> 00:46:38.070
time into it we put the effort into it but in

00:46:38.070 --> 00:46:41.070
the reality of the world it doesn't matter so

00:46:41.070 --> 00:46:44.409
don't put so much pressure on yourself because

00:46:44.409 --> 00:46:46.789
realistically you're gonna get up the next day

00:46:46.789 --> 00:46:48.949
you're gonna go to the gym you're gonna go do

00:46:48.949 --> 00:46:52.250
your job whatever it's fun it's fun to play well

00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:55.380
it is that you you know to me it's the and you

00:46:55.380 --> 00:46:58.579
have this too you get you like wake up the competitive

00:46:58.579 --> 00:47:01.619
spirit in your oh oh yeah this is actually this

00:47:01.619 --> 00:47:04.900
is oh yeah yeah i like grinding i'm a big i like

00:47:04.900 --> 00:47:07.420
crying i love crying i love getting up now i

00:47:07.420 --> 00:47:10.280
love getting up in a bunker you know from a green

00:47:10.280 --> 00:47:12.619
side spot that somebody's like ah okay he's gonna

00:47:12.619 --> 00:47:14.599
make bogey and then you make make a good shot

00:47:14.599 --> 00:47:18.039
you make a par oh great shot you know like it's

00:47:18.039 --> 00:47:21.360
it's a fun feeling yeah And I think that's what,

00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:23.800
what those guys chase all the time in professional

00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:26.420
sports in general. You've got to have, what I'd

00:47:26.420 --> 00:47:28.639
always say is that Tom Watson attitude, right?

00:47:28.739 --> 00:47:30.980
When you get that bad lie, you'd look at, he'd

00:47:30.980 --> 00:47:32.840
look over at Bruce and say, Hey, watch me do

00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:35.579
this. Right. And most of the people I play with,

00:47:35.619 --> 00:47:38.519
they'd like. Oh man, I can't believe this course.

00:47:38.579 --> 00:47:40.619
Look at what it gave me. I mean, there's every

00:47:40.619 --> 00:47:43.480
complaint in the world, but it, to be honest

00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:46.780
with you, look at it as an opportunity for you

00:47:46.780 --> 00:47:49.199
to overcome something and to achieve something

00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:51.880
great. And to be honest with you, if you pull

00:47:51.880 --> 00:47:53.920
it off correctly, people are probably going to

00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:55.699
remember that more than they are the score that

00:47:55.699 --> 00:47:59.659
you put on the card. So, so nobody in my foursome

00:47:59.659 --> 00:48:01.679
knows this on the last day at Buckhorn. When

00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:04.340
I, like I said, I doubled 16, 16 was just up.

00:48:04.590 --> 00:48:07.110
Badly played hole. I hit six bad golf shots.

00:48:07.969 --> 00:48:11.949
Made double. Great. I'm a little bit in my head

00:48:11.949 --> 00:48:14.050
because I just dirtied 15, so I was one under.

00:48:14.170 --> 00:48:16.449
I went to one under, and I got a little bit in

00:48:16.449 --> 00:48:19.829
my head of like, we're out of the comfort zone.

00:48:20.250 --> 00:48:24.610
What are we doing? It's not even the PBFU type

00:48:24.610 --> 00:48:27.210
of thing. If you don't know what that is, go

00:48:27.210 --> 00:48:32.710
look it up. The ABFU type of stuff. Just that,

00:48:32.829 --> 00:48:34.949
like, you're just out of your element. You're

00:48:34.949 --> 00:48:38.269
like, oh, I feel so comfortable. For me, even

00:48:38.269 --> 00:48:40.769
par. Now I'm one under. Oh, no, I got three holes

00:48:40.769 --> 00:48:45.869
left. So anyway, whatever. Make double. Par 17

00:48:45.869 --> 00:48:47.949
from the ferry bunker, by the way. I just realized

00:48:47.949 --> 00:48:50.690
that. Hit a pitching wedge again. Actually, it

00:48:50.690 --> 00:48:53.389
was gap wedge onto the green. Nice. So 18. Yep,

00:48:53.469 --> 00:48:56.329
18. I asked the guys. I'm like, and. There was

00:48:56.329 --> 00:48:58.090
a little match going on, and now we're back to

00:48:58.090 --> 00:49:00.269
even because we lose 16 -17. So there's some

00:49:00.269 --> 00:49:02.690
of these exterior factors coming in, right? Now

00:49:02.690 --> 00:49:05.070
we're on 18, and we're like, okay, this is for

00:49:05.070 --> 00:49:08.730
everything, right? Hit driver right down the

00:49:08.730 --> 00:49:11.809
middle. Hyped it. Beautiful little fade. Life

00:49:11.809 --> 00:49:15.230
is good. Get up to the ball, T -Mac, and my ball

00:49:15.230 --> 00:49:17.550
is not in the middle of a divot, but it's on

00:49:17.550 --> 00:49:19.670
the front edge of the divot. Okay, that's not

00:49:19.670 --> 00:49:25.309
the worst. Sandy divot. sandy divot not not david

00:49:25.309 --> 00:49:31.070
david right exactly so in my head i am saying

00:49:31.070 --> 00:49:34.449
to myself during this 45 seconds i'm like gd

00:49:34.449 --> 00:49:36.829
like tour players don't have to play from this

00:49:36.829 --> 00:49:38.550
they play from conditions that are perfect all

00:49:38.550 --> 00:49:40.650
the time and i'm like yeah no they don't actually

00:49:40.650 --> 00:49:42.230
they don't they don't always hit from perfect

00:49:42.230 --> 00:49:45.230
blood okay you've got an eight iron in your hand

00:49:46.460 --> 00:49:48.400
We're going to hit down through it. We're going

00:49:48.400 --> 00:49:50.760
to make ball first contact anyways. That sand

00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:53.300
behind the ball shouldn't affect your shot at

00:49:53.300 --> 00:49:56.079
all. As long as you make ball first contact like

00:49:56.079 --> 00:49:58.000
you've done for the last four hours, you'll be

00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:02.340
fine. Hit the 8 -iron T -Mac. The flag was left

00:50:02.340 --> 00:50:04.719
side of the green. I aimed it at the flag. Perfect,

00:50:04.780 --> 00:50:06.980
because I knew it was going to fade. It fades

00:50:06.980 --> 00:50:10.480
25 feet. I happen to make a 25 -footer down the

00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:14.329
hill for birdie. Woo! Hole. Might have gotten

00:50:14.329 --> 00:50:15.730
in the way, but, you know, we're going to walk

00:50:15.730 --> 00:50:18.929
off saying it's a good putt. Because that's the

00:50:18.929 --> 00:50:20.849
goal. The goal is to make it in the hole. Yeah.

00:50:20.949 --> 00:50:22.730
Right? That's the goal. So, yeah, sometimes the

00:50:22.730 --> 00:50:24.510
hole gets in the way, but the goal, the intention

00:50:24.510 --> 00:50:27.110
before you made the stroke was to hit it in the

00:50:27.110 --> 00:50:31.050
hole. So, you know, again, you feel good, but,

00:50:31.070 --> 00:50:34.349
like, it doesn't matter. Nobody really cares.

00:50:35.889 --> 00:50:38.449
Doesn't need to stop crying. Yeah. No, nobody

00:50:38.449 --> 00:50:42.150
cares. And you know, that's right. Nobody really,

00:50:42.150 --> 00:50:44.030
at the end of the day, your dog's still going

00:50:44.030 --> 00:50:46.170
to love you. Your kids are still going to give

00:50:46.170 --> 00:50:49.730
you a hug, you know, argue with you or love you

00:50:49.730 --> 00:50:53.050
no matter what, you know, but the, the, you know,

00:50:53.050 --> 00:50:55.369
at the end of the day, it's just about having

00:50:55.369 --> 00:50:57.929
a, a positive experience out there on the course,

00:50:57.969 --> 00:51:00.610
right. Enjoying your time with your friends that

00:51:00.610 --> 00:51:04.409
you do have. Um, and, and just. Trying to work

00:51:04.409 --> 00:51:07.630
on the things that you can control and staying

00:51:07.630 --> 00:51:10.730
and playing within yourself. But, you know, don't

00:51:10.730 --> 00:51:13.010
ever let this game get you to the point where

00:51:13.010 --> 00:51:16.170
you feel like your self -worth is not worth something.

00:51:16.349 --> 00:51:18.730
Because at the end of the day, it is just a game.

00:51:18.809 --> 00:51:21.269
And I do come across people that, you know, they

00:51:21.269 --> 00:51:23.409
feel like, you know, their self -worth is a little

00:51:23.409 --> 00:51:26.630
less because they can't, you know, shoot a 85

00:51:26.630 --> 00:51:28.969
or an 80 or something like that. And I'm like.

00:51:29.579 --> 00:51:31.719
This isn't life and death guys. This is just

00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:33.760
a game. This is something to go out and enjoy.

00:51:33.980 --> 00:51:37.139
As I tell some of my, my students think of this

00:51:37.139 --> 00:51:39.599
like a camping trip with golf clubs. Okay. You're

00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:41.460
going out there camping, you're hanging out.

00:51:41.599 --> 00:51:43.280
You're going to be four hours away from wife

00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:46.280
and kids. Enjoy your time. Don't, don't be miserable

00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:48.199
for those four hours and have to come home and

00:51:48.199 --> 00:51:50.619
then be miserable again, you know? Right. So,

00:51:50.719 --> 00:51:52.780
and you'll bring that attitude to your house

00:51:52.780 --> 00:51:54.480
too, you know, and that's a big thing you got

00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:57.059
to realize is once you're done with that round,

00:51:57.159 --> 00:51:59.659
leave it in the parking lot. Hey, I shot 73.

00:51:59.840 --> 00:52:02.239
That's great. Like you said, your daughter's

00:52:02.239 --> 00:52:03.559
not going to really care. That's great, dad.

00:52:03.679 --> 00:52:05.780
That's good. I shot an 85. That's great, dad.

00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:07.900
Really don't care. You know, leave it in the

00:52:07.900 --> 00:52:10.280
parking lot and go enjoy your day, but don't,

00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:13.099
don't let those bad feelings or bad things affect

00:52:13.099 --> 00:52:16.829
you. Off the golf course, for sure. Please. Absolutely.

00:52:17.670 --> 00:52:22.110
Good stuff. Good stuff. Hopefully we taught some

00:52:22.110 --> 00:52:23.949
people something there. Yeah, I think we dove

00:52:23.949 --> 00:52:26.250
into the mental aspects of the game a little

00:52:26.250 --> 00:52:28.730
bit. You know, I think the big thing people can

00:52:28.730 --> 00:52:32.210
take away is that if you keep a single -minded

00:52:32.210 --> 00:52:35.829
vision as far as, you know, your game plan. and

00:52:35.829 --> 00:52:38.269
stick to it you know that's that's going to help

00:52:38.269 --> 00:52:40.090
you with your mental fortitude even if you do

00:52:40.090 --> 00:52:42.230
or do not execute it for the day if you keep

00:52:42.230 --> 00:52:44.730
to your game plan and you keep that thought it

00:52:44.730 --> 00:52:49.070
will start to produce results for you yeah my

00:52:49.070 --> 00:52:53.230
my last words would just be uh play play on the

00:52:53.230 --> 00:52:56.010
golf course and practice on the range you know

00:52:56.010 --> 00:52:58.230
work on work on different things on the range

00:52:58.230 --> 00:53:01.449
absolutely try try to try to see what you find

00:53:01.449 --> 00:53:03.579
on youtube try to see what you're you know, your

00:53:03.579 --> 00:53:06.500
instructor is working with you on, uh, try to

00:53:06.500 --> 00:53:08.840
hit it, try to hit a draw when you normally hit

00:53:08.840 --> 00:53:11.159
fades, but do that on the range. When you get

00:53:11.159 --> 00:53:13.420
to the golf course, really be committed. You

00:53:13.420 --> 00:53:15.400
hear that on tour a lot too, right? The one,

00:53:15.460 --> 00:53:17.579
the one shot at a time. And I was really committed

00:53:17.579 --> 00:53:21.019
to the shot. And when you, like you were saying,

00:53:21.079 --> 00:53:23.480
saying during your, uh, you know, when you're

00:53:23.480 --> 00:53:26.639
not committed to that swing to that shot, the

00:53:26.639 --> 00:53:29.239
result is usually not a very good result. But

00:53:29.239 --> 00:53:30.840
when you're committed to something and you, you

00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:33.869
said, okay, I'm good. Long par -4. I think it's

00:53:33.869 --> 00:53:35.630
a par -5 before you're teeing it up. When you're

00:53:35.630 --> 00:53:37.650
teeing it up, it's like, it's par -5, great.

00:53:38.429 --> 00:53:40.530
I'm going to just hit it to the right side of

00:53:40.530 --> 00:53:43.230
that water hazard, and I'm going to have, you

00:53:43.230 --> 00:53:45.610
know, Sean's in trouble, so I really got to find

00:53:45.610 --> 00:53:47.369
the fairway. But you were really committed to

00:53:47.369 --> 00:53:50.909
that drive on hole number 15 at TPC Tampa, and

00:53:50.909 --> 00:53:53.550
you did it. And, you know, there's hundreds of

00:53:53.550 --> 00:53:56.409
shots I've seen you do like that, and that's

00:53:56.409 --> 00:53:58.750
partially why we play a little bit better than

00:53:58.750 --> 00:54:01.289
most, because we're committed to it. Yeah. I

00:54:01.289 --> 00:54:03.150
wouldn't say we've got any more talent than them.

00:54:03.190 --> 00:54:05.630
It's just, you know, the sticking to that mental

00:54:05.630 --> 00:54:08.730
facet of the game, you know, gets us through,

00:54:08.769 --> 00:54:11.210
gets us a little bit better score than some of

00:54:11.210 --> 00:54:14.090
our students, I would say. Yeah, absolutely.

00:54:14.409 --> 00:54:17.510
So, but with that being said, if anybody needs

00:54:17.510 --> 00:54:19.469
help with their lessons or needs help with their

00:54:19.469 --> 00:54:21.449
golf game, please give me or Sean a call. We'd

00:54:21.449 --> 00:54:24.230
love to help you. But that kind of wraps up today's

00:54:24.230 --> 00:54:26.650
podcast. If there's any last words that you'd

00:54:26.650 --> 00:54:29.739
have for us there, Sean. Just that we launched

00:54:29.739 --> 00:54:32.139
our new Instagram account at Oakley country club.

00:54:32.360 --> 00:54:36.179
Yeah. So Oakley CC golf shop. Yeah. I should

00:54:36.179 --> 00:54:38.920
know that. Yeah. Oakley CC golf shop. Love for

00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:42.239
you guys to follow us on Instagram. We're going

00:54:42.239 --> 00:54:44.400
to start as we go throughout the summer, the

00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:45.699
weather gets a little warmer. We're getting,

00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:48.019
we are going to start doing some of these reels

00:54:48.019 --> 00:54:50.139
and kind of some of the little short video clips,

00:54:50.280 --> 00:54:52.579
help you guys with your swing and your game.

00:54:52.639 --> 00:54:54.679
And just a lot of good information on there.

00:54:55.119 --> 00:54:57.440
Obviously for our Oakley members up here in Watertown,

00:54:57.440 --> 00:55:00.340
Mass, we'd love for you guys to follow that,

00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:03.280
but Oakley CC golf shop, and then, you know,

00:55:03.300 --> 00:55:06.679
definitely go to the dynamic golf .org as well.

00:55:06.940 --> 00:55:10.619
Yeah. So yeah, check out that Instagram page.

00:55:10.739 --> 00:55:12.639
That's going to be really exciting for us coming

00:55:12.639 --> 00:55:16.139
in the future. That's, that's kind of the way

00:55:16.139 --> 00:55:18.639
people are really digesting their, their information

00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:21.340
and content now is Instagram, Facebook, YouTube.

00:55:22.039 --> 00:55:24.099
Um, so we're just trying to get out there and

00:55:24.099 --> 00:55:26.199
help you guys. So if you guys have any questions,

00:55:26.380 --> 00:55:28.219
please reach out to us. We'd love to help you.

00:55:29.360 --> 00:55:31.159
All right. Well, we'll see you guys next week.

00:55:31.340 --> 00:55:33.079
Master's week, next week, TMAC looking forward

00:55:33.079 --> 00:55:35.139
to talking about that. Absolutely. Absolutely.

00:55:35.320 --> 00:55:40.280
So real quick, any picks? Oh, I'm going to reserve.

00:55:40.440 --> 00:55:41.980
I'm gonna wait till next Monday. All right. I

00:55:41.980 --> 00:55:44.059
like that. I like that till next Monday. Very

00:55:44.059 --> 00:55:46.320
good. We got a week to digest. All right. Very

00:55:46.320 --> 00:55:48.639
good. So want to thank everybody for listening

00:55:48.639 --> 00:55:51.360
to the podcast today. If you guys have any questions,

00:55:51.460 --> 00:55:55.320
reach out to us. You can reach us at dynamic

00:55:55.320 --> 00:55:59.239
golf podcast .org, or please go over to the Oakley

00:55:59.239 --> 00:56:04.179
CC golf shop golf shop on Instagram for us and

00:56:04.179 --> 00:56:07.599
get ahold of us. We'd love to talk to you. Sounds

00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:08.860
good. Alright, have a good one.
