Yes, sir.
Good morning. How are you?
I'm doing great, man. How you doing?
I'm doing good.
How's the weather up there in New England?
It's it's breaking.
I never I guess I forgot about this feeling, too.
When it gets to 40, it feels great.
Well, I'll take your word for that.
Yeah, I know, man. I know.
But when you've been living in the teens and the 20s,
I don't know. It's crazy.
We're going to I'm going to hit balls right now.
Get ready to take off with Dynamic Golf.
Hey, welcome back, Dynamic Podcast listeners.
I'm your host, Tim McElvanagh.
And with me always is our co-host, Sean Klotz.
Sean, today, I think we're going to dive into the second part of the swing plane.
Let's talk about it.
Yeah. Yeah, I think I think last week we just, you know,
there's so much to talk about when we start talking mechanics
and trying to help people out with their swing,
whether it's the middle of the winter or the, you know, first part of their season,
getting ready. So, yeah, I think it's I think it's something that should be dedicated
to because we don't want to kind of gloss over.
It's such an important part of the puzzle. Correct. Correct.
So, you know, especially, you know, with the first part that we talked about with
with hand path and where it needs to be,
you know, the second part is making sure that we keep that thing on plane
and get to the impact striking zone with a square club face. Correct.
I think so. I think the thing that I get with it, Tim, I can I, you know, people get.
OK, so one of the number one terms you hear from the member
that are the customers coming in, got anybody flip for golf lesson.
So what do you do with your driver?
Oh, I slice it. I come over the top and they have an idea what that means.
They do understand what that kind of means.
You know, to break it down on a podcast format is a little challenging
to the visual, but essentially from the top of the backswing,
you know, like we talked about last week, hopefully they get to the top
of the backswing with some some efficiency and some consistency or some,
you know, normality to correct elbow, you know, right elbows in a good position.
Left hand, left, our left left first might be a little bowed.
You don't know what that means. Go look that up on it.
There's plenty of YouTube videos on how to bow your left wrist.
Anyway, right. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
But then then sort of, you know, then the next question is, OK,
well, I come over the top or what do I do next?
Right. That's what you hear a lot. Right.
Well, that's great.
What part of my body moves next to initiate the downswing, to start the club
getting into the slot, another key term you hear a lot.
Yeah, I got the key. I got the club into the slot.
I love Carl De Niro, one of my favorite guys in the world.
Helped us out tremendously during the Zephyr Hills High School program.
Yeah, I think he may even still be coaching.
I'm not even sure.
You know, definitely had the honor of coaching Jared and Jordan,
you know, to his boys.
Yeah. Jordan was an amazing kid.
And, you know, Carl's done an unbelievable job starting a foundation
and creating a thriving foundation for Jordan.
Yeah. Jordan's way, right?
Jordan's way. Yeah, just again, same thing.
If you guys ever want to donate to something good, please, please
donate to Jordan's foundation, but Jordan's way.
So Coach Carl, we always call him Coach Carl,
was always talking about being in the pocket.
Right. That was his big term.
In the pocket.
Sean, if I just get the club in the pocket.
And it's almost a literal translation of what in the slot means.
It really does mean get your hands kind of to the club.
I mean, get your hands kind of to your right pocket on your downswing.
Yes.
Don't ever have your hands working away from your body at the top of your backswing.
Don't have them work away towards, like, away from your head.
Have it work down.
Yes.
Carl's an amazing coach.
Carl would always talk about bringing the hands to the pocket.
The butt of the club is going essentially vertically at this position
for the top of the swing.
It doesn't go horizontally.
It doesn't go away from you.
The club head doesn't work away from your body.
It works essentially towards your body.
But see, Mac, that's also happening because we're shifting our weight.
Is that correct?
Correct.
You're getting that lower body lead like we talked about in previous episodes
where, you know, if you get that left side starting, right?
Getting that pressure into that left side of that foot.
That club automatically kind of drops for you into that right pocket position
that you're talking about, right?
For that first, like, two, three, maybe even six inches for everybody.
Wouldn't you agree?
Yeah, absolutely.
And it is the part where I think people have trouble, you know,
even if you show them sort of what a correct leg position is from the top of the swing down.
What the pros do with their, how they keep that angle between the shaft and their left forearm.
Like, how they keep that angle.
I think you can show that to somebody, but there's such an ingrained thought
that a lot of players have of, I've got to lift it up.
I've got to get the ball up in the air, and I've got to get the club to the ball before the,
you know, before I even hit the ground, and it's just not the way it's done.
Well, it's the part of the swing that I see a lot of amateurs and a lot of good players, too.
They rush that part of the swing, right?
I mean, they just, there's this hit motion that starts to come into play
right when they get done with the top of the swing,
and the hands just go out and away from us in this hitting pattern.
Instead of having patience, right?
That's the big thing you've got to learn is to have patience to allow the process to continue.
And then once you get that thing to about hip high is where you're really going to start accelerating.
But you know, it's really tough to get your student to want to be that patient
to keep their hands that quiet for that long to get into impact.
So, let's talk about that because, again, we like to micromanage or micro-dissect some of these pieces.
And I maybe just kind of some of the things I've heard, you know,
I listened to you and I learned from you just as much as vice versa, I think sometimes.
So, I've been watching a lot of, you know, like YouTube's and different things
and kind of like how do the pros do it?
I love the AMG guys, the athletic motion golf guys, because they give you data to it.
So, what I've been hearing reading is that from the top of the swing to like you're saying,
maybe about, you know, maybe the mid-chest level, we'll call it, where your hands drop to mid-chest.
Not necessarily to your hips yet.
That hand speed is uber fast. It's uber fast at this point.
This is the Bryson DeChambeau. Think of his downswing.
His hands are moving so quick till about where the, again, hands are maybe chest level,
maybe down to the hip, to the belt buckle or belt level.
But then the thing about it is, T-Mac, is then the club, then it goes the other way,
meaning your hands actually decelerate.
I don't know if you've seen this, heard this.
They kind of decelerate a little bit because now the club head is starting to move super fast, right?
That's where the power, that's where you're really getting that whipping action.
They're bracing for impact.
Yeah, the whip like the Indiana Jones whip is kind of a good analogy for some people to kind of feel like
you could never throw a whip, not that we ever do this, right?
We're not cowboys anymore.
But we're not throwing the whip away from us.
It's hold, hold, hold, and then snap.
And that snapping motion that is just prior to impact and really, it's really post-impact.
But we want our listeners to feel like it's almost post-impact because everyone does it early, right?
They do it too early.
Correct.
Yeah, that's where the flipping of the wrists and kind of the, you know, again, sort of that.
If you started over the top from the top of your backswing, you've done it.
You're out of luck already.
But if you kind of can get your swing going in this right path, down swing from the inside,
and then you still have the extra right hand.
Yes.
You know, you're probably still going to kind of top it or hit like left shots.
It's really that whole synchronization timing of the left hip, pulling your hands down at the same position
and really getting out of the way, letting your body clear.
Yes.
So give your room for those arms, right?
Yes.
You know, and I think that's just people learning a little bit more about the cross-crawl pattern
that they have to have in the golf swing.
I think people get so bound up with here's the backswing and now here's the follow through, right?
Where it really is like we've touched on before is that when we get up to the top of the backswing,
there's a little bit of that lateral motion forward.
So it's kind of a dance, right?
It's kind of up and it's down where I think a lot of our students get it, you know,
there's two parts to it, right?
They think it's just the backswing and then once I get there, I just stomp on my foot and go,
which isn't correct.
You're going to have a little bit of that motion as the hands, the arms are still going up to the top.
You always see the great players.
They start that lateral movement that press down into the ground and they start to get it.
And if I gave somebody a baseball or a rock, they would do it naturally without thinking about it.
But once I put a golf club in their hand, they start to think.
Right.
Now they're trying to hit trying to hit the ball instead of swing the club.
And that's such a that's such an old, you know, good saying that Billy London,
one of my coaches I had for, you know, basically 12 years after college.
I think you did, you know, Billy, we ever talk about Billy.
We've talked about Billy, but I don't talk about it.
I don't think I've met Billy now.
Okay.
Yeah.
So he was Darrell Martin's coach and we talked about that and stuff.
But that was Billy's main tenant of his teaching was you always swing the golf club.
You never hit the golf ball.
Correct.
And that's such a simple saying, but it's so true that it's kind of where the whole like let the club head do the work.
Yes.
Concept comes from, you know, really you are you are letting gravity work.
You're building kind of the power up as you kind of make your downswing move,
like you're saying with kind of that little lateral.
I like the word pressure.
I hate the word shift as you're starting to hear as we talk more and more.
Yeah, I just hate the word shift.
It's such such more pressure to me as far as from one side to the other.
Yes.
But yeah, you know, when you try to hit the golf ball, that's when you get in trouble.
And I think there's no better example of that than than a short chip shot for people.
We're talking about, you know, full seven yards.
People try to hit chip shots.
They're awful because they they release the club past their hands and they wonder why they top it or flip it at the bottom or they can hit the ground.
Like there's so many bad things that can come from that, you know, and the chip shot is the mini golf swing.
It really is just a mini dynamic of a golf swing.
Correct.
Absolutely.
If you're struggling with those chip shots, I guarantee you struggling with your iron play as well.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
It's just the club, the object, the club that's moving faster with the chips or with the full swing and it just can't be so, you know, what?
Again, and then I got a lot of points to this because I think that I think one of the simpler ways and maybe, you know, you give us some years to I think one of the simpler ways for people to understand club
to
and
I like the alignment stick on the ground, not necessarily on your feet.
Your feet is a different one.
We talked about that last week.
More right next to the golf club to visualize, hey, if you're swinging left, if you're swinging
over the top or outside in, those are all similar terms.
Those are all similar.
And I want to learn how to swing to the right or inside out.
Then I need to put that object down right next to the golf ball and not hit it.
I like the idea of the object.
You got to be careful what object you put down because you're probably going to break
it the first few times.
I like to put it on the inside part of the ball is kind of what I'm saying.
You got to give yourself clearance.
You got to go slow like all the other ones we talked about.
You got to go slow and shorter swings and half swings and get the feel of it first.
Then you can maybe get the object a little closer to the ball, but you're trying to get
the feel in your body.
Correct.
Some of the things that I kind of do, Sean, is I think you're on the right track there.
I use the alignment rod on the ground too.
Sometimes you've got to kind of find out what works best for your students.
Sometimes visual aids work best.
Sometimes feels do.
One of the big things I find, and I'm sure you come across a thousand people that played
baseball in their time, right?
Big thing for me is I just kind of relate to old sports that they played.
I look at them and say, can you swing out towards the second baseman if they're a right-handed
golfer?
They look at me and they go, well, yeah, I can do that.
Then I look at them and say, right now you're hitting right to the third baseman.
Once they get the idea of visual in their mind of where they need to go, they kind of
do it.
They kind of get a good idea that they need to swing out to the right.
Then we start to see that positive path number that we're looking for on TrackMan.
Definitely.
Yeah.
It's funny how though, being in Florida for 35 years and now being up here for the last
year, the sports are different.
My typical relation is baseball is a pretty universal one, but I've been using a lot of
hockey.
Hey, do you play hockey?
Or do you play lacrosse?
Or a lot of the ladies have played field hockey as they grew up up here.
Okay.
Very interesting.
Then in Florida, it's, hey, did you play tennis?
Have you ever played baseball?
Yeah.
Pickle ball.
Yeah.
The sports are different.
It's funny how the sports are different up here versus down there.
But yeah, it's something if you can ever pull from their memory of what they've done in
their past, that is, I definitely agree.
That's kind of the premier one.
I will say as far as the object or the thing in front of you, I took a lesson about four
years, maybe three years ago from Mike Bradley down at Buckhorn.
Michael Bradley, PGA Tour player.
I think he's got about nine wins on the tour.
Great player, great guy, first of all, just a great person.
And I was kind of always a little intimidated by Mike, but he had helped me out literally
25 years ago at Bloomingdale Golf Club when he was on tour and he was down, visited his
dad 25 years ago and he was on the range.
I don't even know how we, I guess we had a mutual friend.
Anyway, so he gave me a lesson 25 years ago and he still remembered it, which I thought
was amazing.
Oh wow.
I asked about three years ago up up down at Buckhorn, I said, Mike, I'm really struggling
with driver.
Can I just, can we just talk about driving?
Of course.
What did he do?
He said, great.
Let's see, let's see at seven iron first.
Perfect.
That's the way you should do a driver lesson, right?
Yes.
It's because if you're doing it poorly with the driver, I'm sure you're doing it poorly
with a seven iron.
Correct.
So, so we had some seven irons and you know, seven iron is a little more manageable, less
fade at the time.
But the thing that he brought with him, which is such a old school, you know, typical way
to do it.
He brought up a equipment box, like a driver box, you know, like a cardboard box with him.
That's what he had in his, in the back of his cart.
And he laid that down.
Now he put it on the outside of the fall and he, and he aimed it towards like you're saying
towards second base.
If I'm aiming straight down the range, he aimed it kind of towards second base, right
field, however you want to use the term.
Yeah.
And he said, he said, don't hit the box.
And it's just amazing.
Like we're pretty good.
We're all pretty good hand-eye coordination people.
And you don't hit the box and the ball goes, ball goes right.
Perfect.
Like a magic trick.
Right.
Yeah, exactly.
That's what I'm trying to get rid of.
I don't want it to go right.
I don't want it to, I don't want to start left because that's the fade.
It slices, you know, start left.
So, yeah, it's just find something.
You know, we see a lot of stuff where they, you know, you can put the stick in the ground.
You can, you get the alignment stick.
You can swing around and underneath it and all that stuff.
I don't know.
The simpler, the better.
Yeah.
The more feedback, the better.
Absolutely.
I've come to find at least in, in my years of golf, and this sounds kind of crazy, but
whatever direction the ball's going, you probably got to go further towards that direction than
going away from it.
Does that make sense?
I mean, you know,
So say one more time for me.
I got a, I got a grass on the drive and I got to make sure I pay attention.
Gotcha.
So I'm going to be fine, whatever the issue is, whatever, wherever I'm going, right?
If I'm going out to the right, then I'm probably swinging to the left.
So if my problem is to the right, then I've got to go further to that direction than what
I think it's the way physics works is crazy.
But you know, if I want to get it to go left, I got to swing out to the right.
And if I'm a person hitting it out to the right, you're like, no, I'm not going to
do that, man.
I want to swing harder to the left to bring that ball back onto my plane.
So that's, it's kind of that mind bend that we have to get through a little bit with the
game of golf.
It's a, so I'll bring Billy one and up again, just yelling at me like on the range over
at the, where Keith was at the golf Grove there on Nebraska.
Yeah, the old golf Grove.
That's where Coulser was at before.
And then there was another one up on 41 that we hit balls on.
I mean, for hours we hit balls at Rocky point for hours.
Like you would just sit there or stand there with me.
And I'm, you know, I'm kind of scheduled like a little half hour, 45 minute session.
You'd be there two and a half hours.
I'm like, Billy, don't you have to go?
He's like, no, you don't have it yet.
Why would I go?
And I got nobody else.
So I think it was just great with that.
He just really, but he was set.
He wasn't, you know, I find my catch myself doing this.
He wasn't throwing 15 things at you.
He's like, you don't have this part yet.
Why would you think that we can move on Sean, if you don't have this far yet?
Yeah.
And, you know, and we would hit, you know, anyways, it was just, it was a great way to
wait.
Again, he's the guy who taught me how to teach and he was just so many good things, but his,
his fundamental tendon, other than the, what the club do, the work was Sean, the game of
opposites.
You want the ball to go right, you swing left.
If you want to go, if you want the ball to go left, you swing right.
If you want to hit it hard, you swing easy.
If you want to hit it soft, you swing fast.
All that stuff.
Right.
So fun.
And I think you bring up a really good point for our fellow instructors are listening to,
you know, if you're just starting out, you are very excited about the knowledge that
you have and you want to show it to people, but it's really hard for your students, as
you said, to copy 15 things and a half hour or an hour lesson.
So you're right.
I mean, Billy London's absolutely correct.
You know, try to find the one or two, three things that, that can help them for that session
and just stick to those things.
And you've got to exercise patience in yourself as well to hold back.
Isn't that true?
Yeah.
Cause they want the fix.
They came to you.
They're frustrated with something.
They're upset.
Hey, I'm paying you.
So there's already an implied service type of thing.
I'm paying you to fix me.
Yeah.
Right.
I don't really want to put the time and effort into get fit to fix it.
I don't really want to start eating better.
I don't really want to start going to the gym.
You know what I'm saying?
I want my TikTok 30 second quick fix buddy.
Exactly.
Right.
And that's, that's the pressure that we have.
Like what, you know, okay, great.
That's a starting point.
Great.
Um, but you've developed this habit over the last 10 years, sir, ma'am, uh, junior, I
don't care.
Like you've developed this thing that hasn't just all of a sudden come up.
You just figured out some way to kind of shoot 90 with it or break, you know, 80 somehow
because you're a good putter and chipper and putter somehow.
But if you want to get better, that's why I love hearing like Rory.
I told you last week, like Rory went and worked on his golf swing for three months this winter.
Right.
What?
It's Rory Flipper-Nakaroi.
It's not Tim Nakaroi.
It's not Sean Crawford.
Okay.
I mean, he's got the best swing in golf and he's out there revamping it.
So absolutely.
Absolutely.
So, so yeah, you know, to, to just, you know, give yourself patience, give yourself some
grace, go hit a boatload of smaller swing.
It's redundant to not that we say this, but I don't care.
Cause it's so, we know it.
That's the only way you get better.
You go hit smaller, shorter half swings.
Get the feeling back in your body.
Like you're saying, great point.
Yeah.
If I want to swing, if I don't want the ball to slice, I got to start the ball to the right.
What?
That means I got to swing the ball to the right.
Well, no, but when I'm on the course, I just aim more left than I can slice it better.
Okay.
Great.
You're going to do that for the rest of your time.
You're going to, you're never going to draw it.
And the great thing I always heard from old Mike Dameron, he says, the more that you aim
left, the more right you got to bring it.
So it just keeps getting more and more out of balance.
As the round goes on, you're just aiming more and more left to bring it more and more right.
And eventually you're going to hit that straight ball straight out of balance.
Yep.
No question.
Now it's, it's good.
So you know, find, find your thing, you know, find your object, find your, you know, your
thing that clicks in your head as far as, okay, do I, do I get it?
Do I get to get the path go more right?
I think I just working on path.
We haven't talked about the face angle for two weeks and we haven't gotten it, you know,
cause we don't want it.
We want you to get, and we're not trying to promote inside out.
That's the other thing too, right?
And team act like it's not always about trying to swing more inside out.
Cause you got students that do the other way too.
It's just, there's less of them.
Correct.
I just wanted somebody with a path of like seven, 7% positive.
That's really bad.
Right?
It's funny.
I feel like that's the harder one to teach.
That's the harder one to fix.
Correct.
Cause it for hours we're on the range telling people to swing right.
And now all of a sudden you got to tell somebody, okay, Hey, get your right shoulder to get
in front of your left shoulder and you downswing.
What swing left, make your show, make your arms go left.
What?
That seems so weird.
Yes.
Then you're, then they feel like they're swinging over the top.
They look at you like they're swinging over the top and you're like, dude, that's going
straight down the line.
You know?
That's exactly, exactly.
That's what you have because you've, you know, again, from whatever sport they've developed
from a lot of it's sort of body structure and kind of how their arms are.
Sometimes they have maybe a little, I don't know.
I don't want to say it's all like, it's just different ways.
You know, equipment can play a factor in that too.
If it's too heavy, you're going to drop that underneath the plane and swing really out
to the right too.
Could be.
It could be.
I guess I feel like this could be a bad generalization.
I feel like taller people usually fight over the tops or swinging lefts.
I feel like shorter people that might have a little bit too much weight on them in their
stomach area kind of swing a little more under and inside.
I don't know if that's a general statement or not, but I definitely think that the taller
people have trouble getting it inside or flatter, but John Rahm's tall and he does a great job
of it.
So, but he still swings left realistically.
Yeah.
He's just kind of outside it, you know, it's just different.
Getting back to your point about we don't have to swing out to the right all this time,
but the big thing is, and I think you put this in your little memo over there at OneStop
is that you want to get the path as close to zero as possible as an amateur.
Even if it's negative one or two degrees, that's a really good place to be or negative
or positive one or two is really good, but getting that as close to zero as you can is
really good and getting that ball, you know, it's not, maybe it's not a perfect draw or
that push draw that everybody's looking for, but that playable ball that's in the fairway
on the green, maybe it's a little right of your target or what have you, but you're still
finding that ball.
Yeah.
I would say that, you know, we're kind of spoiled because we have access to TrackMan
every day and we know what to look for and we have able to give students data, you know,
right off the bat.
If you don't have access to TrackMan or any launch monitor, you just need to look, you
need to aim to a target and you need to start hitting the ball, you know, again, outside
in left swing guy, then you need to aim at the target a hundred yards in front of you.
It doesn't need to be 200 yards, a hundred yards in front of you and can you start 10
golf shots out that start to the right of that target period?
Like that's how you start the process and it's not 10, it's probably, you know, 500,
but.
So what I would say is what is the original TrackMan for us when we were kids, right?
What was our data that we got from where our path was is that we looked at the divot on
the ground.
That was our original TrackMan, right?
You figured out what your path was by looking at the ground surface reaction that you had.
And if it was out to the right, then you had a, you're swinging out to the right.
And if you find that thing going left or toe deep going left, then you're swinging over
the top.
And that was that, you know, today, if you don't have a TrackMan and you are an instructor,
those are the things you look for out there on the field.
So it's, it's funny because I do a lot of teaching off of maths cause we don't really
have a grass area to hit off of, you know, so you're, you're a little limited with what
you can kind of see from that divot perspective.
And I'm the, I am the prototypical, my practice swing divots are literally tour quality, perfect,
straight, maybe even a hair from the inside of the outside.
But then you put a ball in front of me and the ball flight is relatively straight.
I mean, you know, in the real world, pretty good, but my, my divot pattern is left.
And so I'm, I'm all for understanding what your divot pattern is, especially if you're,
you know, pulling it or whatever.
I think it's very beneficial.
I use divot pattern, like with real grass, more with the low point number and kind of
maybe even where the direction of the, of the, but obviously direction is important.
It's just, you know, I, I, where are you bottoming out?
And then that's that again, kind of leads to the path issue.
Cause if you brought them out earlier, if you're kind of closer to the equator or even
never behind, but if you're closer to almost, we call it picking, right.
You kind of don't take a divot.
You kind of pick, you kind of pick them all off the ground.
And you're still solid.
You can still be solid, but that's typically that inside outside to the right swing path
guy.
Yes.
Whereas the guy who's a little bit outside in or swing left guy is kind of that more
divot ball first and then the divot is roughly, you know, one, almost two inches after the
ball.
That's a little extreme, but you get the idea.
Absolutely.
Because the angle of attack.
Yeah, it just changes.
It just changes.
So yeah, I, you know, get, get, get something out there.
Get, give yourself something to give yourself some feedback.
Put something down on the ground.
So you kind of have a visual of what you're trying to do.
Yeah.
And, and, and, you know, really be identifying where the starting line of that ball flight
is, which, you know, we talk about is so club face driven as far as what the face is doing,
but it really, they do work hand in hand the path path really kind of controls the spin
right to left or left or right.
Yeah.
But you know, it does start, it does, it does obviously come into play on the starting line
that the face is really.
So maybe next week we just talk about, okay, that's great.
Now we've got a good path.
We've established a great path.
We know what the path is doing.
Maybe next week we start talking more about what the face angle should be doing, how you
should be kind of arriving at that position with the club face.
Like you said, really matching up to what your path is doing.
That's the goal.
The goal is to, to make those two things the same, whether they're negative or positive,
it doesn't matter or left or right or whatever.
Yeah.
You know, the big thing I see with, with some of my students, even if they have a good path,
I've had a student just the other day had a really good path.
He was out to about two degrees positive.
But his club face was just as wide open as it could be, you know?
So you know, be mindful, even if you have a really good path, you've got to have a face
that that compliments what you're trying to do to make sure that goes straight.
Yeah.
100%.
I think we'll let's get into that one a little more next week.
Cause we can, we can talk about grip position and how your hands are on the club, you know,
the controls of the face and a lot of different things in that.
And there's, there's a lot to be said for that though.
Maybe the last thing I'll say about sort of the path part is so I've been teaching a lot
indoors, you know, at that, at the impromptu hitting bay that we've got in the pro shop
at Oakley.
And it's, it's probably eight feet from the mat to the screen.
Okay.
And we have some sidewalls put up probably four feet from the back wall of the screen
forward.
So there's, there's, and the screen is 10 feet wide.
Okay.
Um, it's, it's hard to do this, but I'm going to pick on a couple of juniors that I've taught
over the last four or five days.
I won't break their names up.
Obviously.
I've had a couple of juniors boy and girl, they've missed the entire enclosure.
Um, because at impact, so they miss it left, the club faces super obviously shot.
And I'll say to them, Hey, where's the club face?
Well, club faces left coach.
I said, yeah, exactly.
But it's because they're falling back right there.
The weights on their right leg.
That's the only way you can actually get the club face that far left and in the closure
that you're trying to hit.
It's eight feet in front of you with 10 feet wide.
And I'm not making fun of them at all.
Cause I've got, we got all, you know, men and ladies that do this.
Absolutely.
The, the, the kind of the point is like, if you, if you don't shift, if you don't put
the pressure from your right leg back into your left leg, as you make the downswing,
almost nothing else matters because you're going to be in a bad position.
Now they're doing it.
I've mentioned, I, when I said that story to you, they're both juniors, right?
So what they don't have, you know, every once in a while, I see it with an older, older
man or lady, but they don't have the wrist strength to maintain the club face to go straight
enough towards the screen.
It's just kind of why they're doing it.
You said it, you said it, you said it early.
We'll let you know.
Like the club head is too heavy for them.
So the shaft goes left or the head goes left them.
They've got grandfather's clubs.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
They just didn't, the clubs aren't necessarily designed for them.
So the point being of all that is your pressure has to be, you know, cheat downswing move
to make sure that the path goes more straight down the line and to make sure that the face
goes straight where it's trying to go to.
That's kind of the whole point of that.
Yeah.
So you got to have that, you know, as you said, keeping that path, you know, at least
as we said, closer to a zero or out towards the second basement, keeping it positive.
And then, you know, as you said, you know, next, next talk is, is how do we and what
do we need to do to get that face kind of square?
Yeah.
I think that's where we head towards and get people ready for the spring.
So did you catch any of the PGA tour this, this weekend at all?
Did you catch some of the guns coming out?
Yeah.
Those guys are first of all, they're, they're good.
You know, they're all 20 under par.
Well, it was a resort course to start off with.
Everybody was having fun for the first three days.
It looked like, it looked like everybody kind of cracked up and broke up a little bit on
the, on the final day talking about pressure.
So, yeah, I mean, it's, it's again, I've, I've never not even close to shooting 61,
but when pot get hot gutter sheets 61 on sets, the course record ties it, you know, typically
those course records are done on Thursdays, Fridays, you know, maybe some Saturdays, but
not typically done on Sundays.
Yeah.
Sometimes the girl, did you see the girls event, the ladies event yesterday?
No, I didn't.
I didn't.
What happened there?
So, so the lady who came to comes in second, she shoots 11 under par yesterday.
Oh, wow.
11 under.
Wow.
And she came in second, which is kind of harsh to say, Hey, how'd you do?
I shot 11 under.
Oh, great.
Did you win?
No, I came in second.
Um, because, because the girl that came in first was seven under par.
Um, but just, you know, again, just, it's, it's, it's just crazy how good all of these
players are and how there's just not a concern.
There's just, you know, if you're going to play golf, well, you can't have any fear.
You just can't.
Absolutely.
And these young kids that are coming out now, they're coming out of the college ranks and
they're just hungry to win.
I mean, and they, they, you know, they seem almost insulted if they don't win in the first
year or two where, you know, you remember back in the day, like, Hey, wait till you're,
you know, I remember Curtis Strange, you know, interviewing Tiger.
Oh, wait, you'll know.
Wait till you get to your thirties.
I mean, these kids are like, no, I want a major when I'm before I'm 25 and I want to
be in the hall of fame by the time I'm in 30 years old.
So I mean, they're coming out guns blazing.
Well, there, yeah, there's that Aldrich kid there, Pacquiao.
I mean, he's the longest hitter on tour, fastest ball speed on tour.
He's 20.
Just turned 20.
Not in the shape that you would look that you see on tour.
No, he's not in that type of shape.
He's heavy.
He's super strong.
Big kid.
I'm really, really like, if I could have you guys go like watch his swing, I would tell
you to try to emulate his base for his driver.
Yeah.
He's got such a good solid base.
It just looks very, very powerful.
Like he's really ready to make great.
He reminds me of like a Julius Boros or something like that.
Yeah.
If any of you guys know that go look that up.
But he was a hell of a golfer too and kind of has that same build, a very big athletic
kind of guy.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
He's got that and then he's also got, which at the same time he's got Joaquin Nieman side
bend.
Flexibility.
That's a lot for a Monday morning.
Right.
Exactly.
Flexibility.
Yeah.
And that's how he can kind of keep his positions, maintain his posture and just bombs it.
And yeah, he's not a great chipper and that's kind of what ended up costing him.
You know, you didn't get up and down on the playoff hole.
You did get up and down two out of three times out of a bunker to get to the playoff part
of it.
But he's just, so I'm glad to see Brian Campbell win, you know, kind of a journeyman player
that on tour, on and off tour since 2016.
So it was a good story and his girlfriend was like falling down, was so happy for him
and it was just kind of a fun, you know, feel good story type of thing.
Absolutely.
You know, and nothing to take away from Aldrick, but you know that kid's going to win on the
tour.
You know, he's probably going to win a couple of majors.
You know, he's going to be there, but this guy, Brian Campbell, this might be the highlight
of his career.
He gets a start on the PGA tour.
You know, I just feel for the guy because it's so tough for these guys to get on the
tour.
You used to be able to hold your card at the top 125.
Now it's the top 70.
So these guys to get a win and to really live out their dream.
I mean, he's a 31 year old journeyman, you know, at 31 probably he's probably got something
in the old ticker if by age 34, he's going to go, you know, run the old man's business
or something like that or, you know, something like that.
When this is just, I'm just, I'm happy for the guy.
I'm rooting for the underdog all the time.
All the time.
Yeah.
No, it's, it's like you said, and the other thing he gave up, you know, he gives up 40
yards of driving distance to the Aldrick, which is again, another good way to, for our
listeners like, Hey, there's multiple, multiple ways to score.
And he said that he said that.
He's like, he said, we've got to interview after at the end and you know, the girl, the
lady was like, you know, how do you, how do you even, you know, put that in your head
as far as how to, uh, you know, you know, you're going to get out driven by 40 every
time.
He, he answered us so well.
He's like, it's not my game.
He goes, I know it's not my game.
I just do what I can do.
I don't worry about what the other people are doing.
And I know that if I can hit the ball where I want to, and I've got a really good short
game and that's how he ended up like the last hole he hits the ball.
He hits the ball.
Uh, it should have been out of bounds.
It should have been in the drive on the last playoff hole should have been in the trees.
And he got this great bounce and it, you know, knocked back from the trees, back out of the
ground, onto the playing surface.
We'll call it.
He's got 321 yards.
Aldrick's got 224 yards to the green.
So he hits three wood or five wood to a position where he can hit it and he gets 68 yards left
in and gets 60 yards left into about three feet makes birdie Aldrick misses the green
and doesn't give it up and down.
You know, yeah, hit a clunky chip.
Yeah.
You know, so, uh, yeah.
The mental fortitude that Brian had to have for that.
I mean, just, just think about that.
You know, you never won on the tour.
You're facing probably what's going to be, you know, one of the top five stars in the
future head to head with all the big guys you're giving up, you know, 40, 50 yards to,
to, to this guy and to win, to come on top.
I mean, it just, as you said, it really goes to prove that there's more than one way to
skin a cat.
Right?
That's it.
The ball.
Yep.
You're right.
So no, it was good stuff.
Good stuff.
Now you're going out to practice a little bit.
You said, what are, what are you going to kind of work on here?
I'm going to work on here before we, uh, we break.
I just got up here to the range.
It is all completely frozen over and snow completely on this, on this range.
Perfect.
You should take, I should take some pics for the YouTube channel.
Yeah, let's do that.
Golf balls are on the ground.
They're frozen into the, into the water.
It looks like, uh, today.
So we're getting ready for a trip in about three weeks down to Charleston, South Carolina.
Okay.
So I got, I got a new driver, just like everybody else in the world.
We got new, some new product.
I got a couple of swing thoughts I'm going to go do.
I'm going to try to work on some, uh, trying to get my attack angle up on driver and, uh,
we'll hit it into the snow and see where it lands.
Love it.
So, well, very good.
Hey, if you guys liked and loved this, please think about liking and subscribing and, uh,
you know, keep working on your swing plane before we break.
Any final thoughts, Sean, before we go?
No, I'm good.
No, just keep, keep doing whatever you guys can do to get better.
You know, just if it's good to go to the range, great.
If you can go work out for a little bit, if you can go stretch, whatever.
Um, yeah, just keep, keep working on it.
That's what we're all trying to get better.
All right.
So thank you guys.
Have a good one and we'll talk to you soon.
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