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Yes, sir.

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Good morning. How are you?

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I'm doing great, man. How you doing?

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I'm doing good.

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How's the weather up there in New England?

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It's it's breaking.

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I never I guess I forgot about this feeling, too.

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When it gets to 40, it feels great.

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Well, I'll take your word for that.

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Yeah, I know, man. I know.

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But when you've been living in the teens and the 20s,

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I don't know. It's crazy.

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We're going to I'm going to hit balls right now.

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Get ready to take off with Dynamic Golf.

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Hey, welcome back, Dynamic Podcast listeners.

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I'm your host, Tim McElvanagh.

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And with me always is our co-host, Sean Klotz.

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Sean, today, I think we're going to dive into the second part of the swing plane.

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Let's talk about it.

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Yeah. Yeah, I think I think last week we just, you know,

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there's so much to talk about when we start talking mechanics

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and trying to help people out with their swing,

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whether it's the middle of the winter or the, you know, first part of their season,

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getting ready. So, yeah, I think it's I think it's something that should be dedicated

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to because we don't want to kind of gloss over.

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It's such an important part of the puzzle. Correct. Correct.

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So, you know, especially, you know, with the first part that we talked about with

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with hand path and where it needs to be,

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you know, the second part is making sure that we keep that thing on plane

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and get to the impact striking zone with a square club face. Correct.

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I think so. I think the thing that I get with it, Tim, I can I, you know, people get.

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OK, so one of the number one terms you hear from the member

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that are the customers coming in, got anybody flip for golf lesson.

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So what do you do with your driver?

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Oh, I slice it. I come over the top and they have an idea what that means.

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They do understand what that kind of means.

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You know, to break it down on a podcast format is a little challenging

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to the visual, but essentially from the top of the backswing,

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you know, like we talked about last week, hopefully they get to the top

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of the backswing with some some efficiency and some consistency or some,

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you know, normality to correct elbow, you know, right elbows in a good position.

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Left hand, left, our left left first might be a little bowed.

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You don't know what that means. Go look that up on it.

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There's plenty of YouTube videos on how to bow your left wrist.

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Anyway, right. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

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But then then sort of, you know, then the next question is, OK,

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well, I come over the top or what do I do next?

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Right. That's what you hear a lot. Right.

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Well, that's great.

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What part of my body moves next to initiate the downswing, to start the club

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getting into the slot, another key term you hear a lot.

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Yeah, I got the key. I got the club into the slot.

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I love Carl De Niro, one of my favorite guys in the world.

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Helped us out tremendously during the Zephyr Hills High School program.

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Yeah, I think he may even still be coaching.

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I'm not even sure.

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You know, definitely had the honor of coaching Jared and Jordan,

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you know, to his boys.

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Yeah. Jordan was an amazing kid.

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And, you know, Carl's done an unbelievable job starting a foundation

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and creating a thriving foundation for Jordan.

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Yeah. Jordan's way, right?

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Jordan's way. Yeah, just again, same thing.

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If you guys ever want to donate to something good, please, please

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donate to Jordan's foundation, but Jordan's way.

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So Coach Carl, we always call him Coach Carl,

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was always talking about being in the pocket.

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Right. That was his big term.

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In the pocket.

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Sean, if I just get the club in the pocket.

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And it's almost a literal translation of what in the slot means.

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It really does mean get your hands kind of to the club.

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I mean, get your hands kind of to your right pocket on your downswing.

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Don't ever have your hands working away from your body at the top of your backswing.

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Don't have them work away towards, like, away from your head.

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Have it work down.

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Carl's an amazing coach.

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Carl would always talk about bringing the hands to the pocket.

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The butt of the club is going essentially vertically at this position

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for the top of the swing.

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It doesn't go horizontally.

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It doesn't go away from you.

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The club head doesn't work away from your body.

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It works essentially towards your body.

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But see, Mac, that's also happening because we're shifting our weight.

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Is that correct?

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Correct.

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You're getting that lower body lead like we talked about in previous episodes

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where, you know, if you get that left side starting, right?

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Getting that pressure into that left side of that foot.

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That club automatically kind of drops for you into that right pocket position

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that you're talking about, right?

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For that first, like, two, three, maybe even six inches for everybody.

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Wouldn't you agree?

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And it is the part where I think people have trouble, you know,

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even if you show them sort of what a correct leg position is from the top of the swing down.

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What the pros do with their, how they keep that angle between the shaft and their left forearm.

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Like, how they keep that angle.

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I think you can show that to somebody, but there's such an ingrained thought

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that a lot of players have of, I've got to lift it up.

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I've got to get the ball up in the air, and I've got to get the club to the ball before the,

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you know, before I even hit the ground, and it's just not the way it's done.

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Well, it's the part of the swing that I see a lot of amateurs and a lot of good players, too.

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They rush that part of the swing, right?

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I mean, they just, there's this hit motion that starts to come into play

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right when they get done with the top of the swing,

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and the hands just go out and away from us in this hitting pattern.

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Instead of having patience, right?

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That's the big thing you've got to learn is to have patience to allow the process to continue.

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And then once you get that thing to about hip high is where you're really going to start accelerating.

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But you know, it's really tough to get your student to want to be that patient

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to keep their hands that quiet for that long to get into impact.

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So, let's talk about that because, again, we like to micromanage or micro-dissect some of these pieces.

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And I maybe just kind of some of the things I've heard, you know,

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I listened to you and I learned from you just as much as vice versa, I think sometimes.

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So, I've been watching a lot of, you know, like YouTube's and different things

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and kind of like how do the pros do it?

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I love the AMG guys, the athletic motion golf guys, because they give you data to it.

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So, what I've been hearing reading is that from the top of the swing to like you're saying,

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maybe about, you know, maybe the mid-chest level, we'll call it, where your hands drop to mid-chest.

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Not necessarily to your hips yet.

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That hand speed is uber fast. It's uber fast at this point.

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This is the Bryson DeChambeau. Think of his downswing.

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His hands are moving so quick till about where the, again, hands are maybe chest level,

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maybe down to the hip, to the belt buckle or belt level.

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But then the thing about it is, T-Mac, is then the club, then it goes the other way,

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meaning your hands actually decelerate.

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I don't know if you've seen this, heard this.

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They kind of decelerate a little bit because now the club head is starting to move super fast, right?

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That's where the power, that's where you're really getting that whipping action.

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They're bracing for impact.

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Yeah, the whip like the Indiana Jones whip is kind of a good analogy for some people to kind of feel like

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you could never throw a whip, not that we ever do this, right?

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We're not cowboys anymore.

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But we're not throwing the whip away from us.

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It's hold, hold, hold, and then snap.

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And that snapping motion that is just prior to impact and really, it's really post-impact.

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But we want our listeners to feel like it's almost post-impact because everyone does it early, right?

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They do it too early.

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Correct.

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Yeah, that's where the flipping of the wrists and kind of the, you know, again, sort of that.

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If you started over the top from the top of your backswing, you've done it.

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You're out of luck already.

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But if you kind of can get your swing going in this right path, down swing from the inside,

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and then you still have the extra right hand.

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You know, you're probably still going to kind of top it or hit like left shots.

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It's really that whole synchronization timing of the left hip, pulling your hands down at the same position

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and really getting out of the way, letting your body clear.

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So give your room for those arms, right?

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You know, and I think that's just people learning a little bit more about the cross-crawl pattern

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that they have to have in the golf swing.

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I think people get so bound up with here's the backswing and now here's the follow through, right?

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Where it really is like we've touched on before is that when we get up to the top of the backswing,

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there's a little bit of that lateral motion forward.

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So it's kind of a dance, right?

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It's kind of up and it's down where I think a lot of our students get it, you know,

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there's two parts to it, right?

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They think it's just the backswing and then once I get there, I just stomp on my foot and go,

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which isn't correct.

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You're going to have a little bit of that motion as the hands, the arms are still going up to the top.

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You always see the great players.

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They start that lateral movement that press down into the ground and they start to get it.

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And if I gave somebody a baseball or a rock, they would do it naturally without thinking about it.

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But once I put a golf club in their hand, they start to think.

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Right.

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Now they're trying to hit trying to hit the ball instead of swing the club.

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And that's such a that's such an old, you know, good saying that Billy London,

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one of my coaches I had for, you know, basically 12 years after college.

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I think you did, you know, Billy, we ever talk about Billy.

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We've talked about Billy, but I don't talk about it.

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I don't think I've met Billy now.

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So he was Darrell Martin's coach and we talked about that and stuff.

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But that was Billy's main tenant of his teaching was you always swing the golf club.

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You never hit the golf ball.

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Correct.

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And that's such a simple saying, but it's so true that it's kind of where the whole like let the club head do the work.

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Concept comes from, you know, really you are you are letting gravity work.

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You're building kind of the power up as you kind of make your downswing move,

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like you're saying with kind of that little lateral.

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I like the word pressure.

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I hate the word shift as you're starting to hear as we talk more and more.

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Yeah, I just hate the word shift.

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It's such such more pressure to me as far as from one side to the other.

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But yeah, you know, when you try to hit the golf ball, that's when you get in trouble.

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And I think there's no better example of that than than a short chip shot for people.

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We're talking about, you know, full seven yards.

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People try to hit chip shots.

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They're awful because they they release the club past their hands and they wonder why they top it or flip it at the bottom or they can hit the ground.

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Like there's so many bad things that can come from that, you know, and the chip shot is the mini golf swing.

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It really is just a mini dynamic of a golf swing.

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Correct.

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Absolutely.

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If you're struggling with those chip shots, I guarantee you struggling with your iron play as well.

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It's just the club, the object, the club that's moving faster with the chips or with the full swing and it just can't be so, you know, what?

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Again, and then I got a lot of points to this because I think that I think one of the simpler ways and maybe, you know, you give us some years to I think one of the simpler ways for people to understand club

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I like the alignment stick on the ground, not necessarily on your feet.

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Your feet is a different one.

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We talked about that last week.

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More right next to the golf club to visualize, hey, if you're swinging left, if you're swinging

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over the top or outside in, those are all similar terms.

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Those are all similar.

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And I want to learn how to swing to the right or inside out.

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Then I need to put that object down right next to the golf ball and not hit it.

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I like the idea of the object.

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You got to be careful what object you put down because you're probably going to break

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it the first few times.

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I like to put it on the inside part of the ball is kind of what I'm saying.

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You got to give yourself clearance.

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You got to go slow like all the other ones we talked about.

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You got to go slow and shorter swings and half swings and get the feel of it first.

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Then you can maybe get the object a little closer to the ball, but you're trying to get

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the feel in your body.

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Correct.

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Some of the things that I kind of do, Sean, is I think you're on the right track there.

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I use the alignment rod on the ground too.

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Sometimes you've got to kind of find out what works best for your students.

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Sometimes visual aids work best.

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Sometimes feels do.

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One of the big things I find, and I'm sure you come across a thousand people that played

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baseball in their time, right?

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Big thing for me is I just kind of relate to old sports that they played.

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I look at them and say, can you swing out towards the second baseman if they're a right-handed

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golfer?

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They look at me and they go, well, yeah, I can do that.

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Then I look at them and say, right now you're hitting right to the third baseman.

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Once they get the idea of visual in their mind of where they need to go, they kind of

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do it.

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They kind of get a good idea that they need to swing out to the right.

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Then we start to see that positive path number that we're looking for on TrackMan.

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Definitely.

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Yeah.

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It's funny how though, being in Florida for 35 years and now being up here for the last

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year, the sports are different.

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My typical relation is baseball is a pretty universal one, but I've been using a lot of

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hockey.

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Hey, do you play hockey?

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Or do you play lacrosse?

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Or a lot of the ladies have played field hockey as they grew up up here.

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Okay.

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Very interesting.

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Then in Florida, it's, hey, did you play tennis?

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Have you ever played baseball?

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Yeah.

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Pickle ball.

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Yeah.

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The sports are different.

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It's funny how the sports are different up here versus down there.

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But yeah, it's something if you can ever pull from their memory of what they've done in

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their past, that is, I definitely agree.

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That's kind of the premier one.

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I will say as far as the object or the thing in front of you, I took a lesson about four

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years, maybe three years ago from Mike Bradley down at Buckhorn.

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Michael Bradley, PGA Tour player.

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I think he's got about nine wins on the tour.

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Great player, great guy, first of all, just a great person.

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And I was kind of always a little intimidated by Mike, but he had helped me out literally

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25 years ago at Bloomingdale Golf Club when he was on tour and he was down, visited his

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dad 25 years ago and he was on the range.

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I don't even know how we, I guess we had a mutual friend.

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Anyway, so he gave me a lesson 25 years ago and he still remembered it, which I thought

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was amazing.

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Oh wow.

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I asked about three years ago up up down at Buckhorn, I said, Mike, I'm really struggling

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with driver.

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Can I just, can we just talk about driving?

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Of course.

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What did he do?

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He said, great.

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Let's see, let's see at seven iron first.

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Perfect.

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That's the way you should do a driver lesson, right?

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Yes.

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It's because if you're doing it poorly with the driver, I'm sure you're doing it poorly

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with a seven iron.

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Correct.

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So, so we had some seven irons and you know, seven iron is a little more manageable, less

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fade at the time.

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But the thing that he brought with him, which is such a old school, you know, typical way

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to do it.

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He brought up a equipment box, like a driver box, you know, like a cardboard box with him.

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That's what he had in his, in the back of his cart.

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And he laid that down.

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Now he put it on the outside of the fall and he, and he aimed it towards like you're saying

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towards second base.

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If I'm aiming straight down the range, he aimed it kind of towards second base, right

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field, however you want to use the term.

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Yeah.

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And he said, he said, don't hit the box.

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And it's just amazing.

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Like we're pretty good.

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We're all pretty good hand-eye coordination people.

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And you don't hit the box and the ball goes, ball goes right.

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Perfect.

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Like a magic trick.

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Right.

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Yeah, exactly.

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That's what I'm trying to get rid of.

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I don't want it to go right.

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I don't want it to, I don't want to start left because that's the fade.

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It slices, you know, start left.

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So, yeah, it's just find something.

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You know, we see a lot of stuff where they, you know, you can put the stick in the ground.

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You can, you get the alignment stick.

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You can swing around and underneath it and all that stuff.

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I don't know.

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The simpler, the better.

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Yeah.

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The more feedback, the better.

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Absolutely.

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I've come to find at least in, in my years of golf, and this sounds kind of crazy, but

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whatever direction the ball's going, you probably got to go further towards that direction than

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going away from it.

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Does that make sense?

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I mean, you know,

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So say one more time for me.

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I got a, I got a grass on the drive and I got to make sure I pay attention.

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Gotcha.

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So I'm going to be fine, whatever the issue is, whatever, wherever I'm going, right?

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If I'm going out to the right, then I'm probably swinging to the left.

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So if my problem is to the right, then I've got to go further to that direction than what

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I think it's the way physics works is crazy.

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But you know, if I want to get it to go left, I got to swing out to the right.

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And if I'm a person hitting it out to the right, you're like, no, I'm not going to

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do that, man.

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I want to swing harder to the left to bring that ball back onto my plane.

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So that's, it's kind of that mind bend that we have to get through a little bit with the

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game of golf.

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It's a, so I'll bring Billy one and up again, just yelling at me like on the range over

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at the, where Keith was at the golf Grove there on Nebraska.

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Yeah, the old golf Grove.

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That's where Coulser was at before.

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And then there was another one up on 41 that we hit balls on.

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I mean, for hours we hit balls at Rocky point for hours.

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Like you would just sit there or stand there with me.

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And I'm, you know, I'm kind of scheduled like a little half hour, 45 minute session.

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You'd be there two and a half hours.

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I'm like, Billy, don't you have to go?

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He's like, no, you don't have it yet.

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Why would I go?

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And I got nobody else.

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So I think it was just great with that.

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He just really, but he was set.

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He wasn't, you know, I find my catch myself doing this.

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He wasn't throwing 15 things at you.

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He's like, you don't have this part yet.

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Why would you think that we can move on Sean, if you don't have this far yet?

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Yeah.

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And, you know, and we would hit, you know, anyways, it was just, it was a great way to

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wait.

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Again, he's the guy who taught me how to teach and he was just so many good things, but his,

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his fundamental tendon, other than the, what the club do, the work was Sean, the game of

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opposites.

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You want the ball to go right, you swing left.

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If you want to go, if you want the ball to go left, you swing right.

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If you want to hit it hard, you swing easy.

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If you want to hit it soft, you swing fast.

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All that stuff.

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Right.

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So fun.

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So fun.

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And I think you bring up a really good point for our fellow instructors are listening to,

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you know, if you're just starting out, you are very excited about the knowledge that

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you have and you want to show it to people, but it's really hard for your students, as

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you said, to copy 15 things and a half hour or an hour lesson.

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So you're right.

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I mean, Billy London's absolutely correct.

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You know, try to find the one or two, three things that, that can help them for that session

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and just stick to those things.

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And you've got to exercise patience in yourself as well to hold back.

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Isn't that true?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Cause they want the fix.

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They came to you.

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They're frustrated with something.

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They're upset.

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Hey, I'm paying you.

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So there's already an implied service type of thing.

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I'm paying you to fix me.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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I don't really want to put the time and effort into get fit to fix it.

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I don't really want to start eating better.

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I don't really want to start going to the gym.

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You know what I'm saying?

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I want my TikTok 30 second quick fix buddy.

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Exactly.

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Right.

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And that's, that's the pressure that we have.

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Like what, you know, okay, great.

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That's a starting point.

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Great.

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Um, but you've developed this habit over the last 10 years, sir, ma'am, uh, junior, I

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don't care.

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Like you've developed this thing that hasn't just all of a sudden come up.

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You just figured out some way to kind of shoot 90 with it or break, you know, 80 somehow

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because you're a good putter and chipper and putter somehow.

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But if you want to get better, that's why I love hearing like Rory.

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I told you last week, like Rory went and worked on his golf swing for three months this winter.

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Right.

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What?

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What?

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It's Rory Flipper-Nakaroi.

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It's not Tim Nakaroi.

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It's not Sean Crawford.

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Okay.

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I mean, he's got the best swing in golf and he's out there revamping it.

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So absolutely.

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Absolutely.

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So, so yeah, you know, to, to just, you know, give yourself patience, give yourself some

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grace, go hit a boatload of smaller swing.

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It's redundant to not that we say this, but I don't care.

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Cause it's so, we know it.

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That's the only way you get better.

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You go hit smaller, shorter half swings.

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Get the feeling back in your body.

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Like you're saying, great point.

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Yeah.

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If I want to swing, if I don't want the ball to slice, I got to start the ball to the right.

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What?

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That means I got to swing the ball to the right.

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Well, no, but when I'm on the course, I just aim more left than I can slice it better.

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Okay.

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Great.

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You're going to do that for the rest of your time.

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You're going to, you're never going to draw it.

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And the great thing I always heard from old Mike Dameron, he says, the more that you aim

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left, the more right you got to bring it.

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So it just keeps getting more and more out of balance.

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As the round goes on, you're just aiming more and more left to bring it more and more right.

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And eventually you're going to hit that straight ball straight out of balance.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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No question.

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Now it's, it's good.

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So you know, find, find your thing, you know, find your object, find your, you know, your

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thing that clicks in your head as far as, okay, do I, do I get it?

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Do I get to get the path go more right?

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I think I just working on path.

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We haven't talked about the face angle for two weeks and we haven't gotten it, you know,

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cause we don't want it.

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We want you to get, and we're not trying to promote inside out.

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That's the other thing too, right?

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And team act like it's not always about trying to swing more inside out.

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Cause you got students that do the other way too.

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It's just, there's less of them.

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Correct.

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Correct.

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I just wanted somebody with a path of like seven, 7% positive.

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That's really bad.

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Right?

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It's funny.

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I feel like that's the harder one to teach.

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That's the harder one to fix.

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Correct.

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Cause it for hours we're on the range telling people to swing right.

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And now all of a sudden you got to tell somebody, okay, Hey, get your right shoulder to get

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in front of your left shoulder and you downswing.

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What swing left, make your show, make your arms go left.

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What?

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That seems so weird.

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Yes.

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Then you're, then they feel like they're swinging over the top.

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They look at you like they're swinging over the top and you're like, dude, that's going

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straight down the line.

482
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,040
You know?

483
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,040
That's exactly, exactly.

484
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:50,080
That's what you have because you've, you know, again, from whatever sport they've developed

485
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:54,800
from a lot of it's sort of body structure and kind of how their arms are.

486
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,320
Sometimes they have maybe a little, I don't know.

487
00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,280
I don't want to say it's all like, it's just different ways.

488
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,480
You know, equipment can play a factor in that too.

489
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,960
If it's too heavy, you're going to drop that underneath the plane and swing really out

490
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,960
to the right too.

491
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:08,960
Could be.

492
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:09,960
It could be.

493
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,920
I guess I feel like this could be a bad generalization.

494
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:18,840
I feel like taller people usually fight over the tops or swinging lefts.

495
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:24,040
I feel like shorter people that might have a little bit too much weight on them in their

496
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:28,480
stomach area kind of swing a little more under and inside.

497
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:34,040
I don't know if that's a general statement or not, but I definitely think that the taller

498
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:39,760
people have trouble getting it inside or flatter, but John Rahm's tall and he does a great job

499
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:40,760
of it.

500
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:41,760
So, but he still swings left realistically.

501
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:42,760
Yeah.

502
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,080
He's just kind of outside it, you know, it's just different.

503
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,960
Getting back to your point about we don't have to swing out to the right all this time,

504
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,320
but the big thing is, and I think you put this in your little memo over there at OneStop

505
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:58,800
is that you want to get the path as close to zero as possible as an amateur.

506
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:04,060
Even if it's negative one or two degrees, that's a really good place to be or negative

507
00:25:04,060 --> 00:25:09,800
or positive one or two is really good, but getting that as close to zero as you can is

508
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:14,360
really good and getting that ball, you know, it's not, maybe it's not a perfect draw or

509
00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:18,540
that push draw that everybody's looking for, but that playable ball that's in the fairway

510
00:25:18,540 --> 00:25:22,500
on the green, maybe it's a little right of your target or what have you, but you're still

511
00:25:22,500 --> 00:25:24,080
finding that ball.

512
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,080
Yeah.

513
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:31,760
I would say that, you know, we're kind of spoiled because we have access to TrackMan

514
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:37,200
every day and we know what to look for and we have able to give students data, you know,

515
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,520
right off the bat.

516
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,320
If you don't have access to TrackMan or any launch monitor, you just need to look, you

517
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:48,400
need to aim to a target and you need to start hitting the ball, you know, again, outside

518
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,720
in left swing guy, then you need to aim at the target a hundred yards in front of you.

519
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,320
It doesn't need to be 200 yards, a hundred yards in front of you and can you start 10

520
00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,240
golf shots out that start to the right of that target period?

521
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:08,400
Like that's how you start the process and it's not 10, it's probably, you know, 500,

522
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,400
but.

523
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:14,800
So what I would say is what is the original TrackMan for us when we were kids, right?

524
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:19,880
What was our data that we got from where our path was is that we looked at the divot on

525
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:20,880
the ground.

526
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,440
That was our original TrackMan, right?

527
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:27,720
You figured out what your path was by looking at the ground surface reaction that you had.

528
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,440
And if it was out to the right, then you had a, you're swinging out to the right.

529
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,680
And if you find that thing going left or toe deep going left, then you're swinging over

530
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:36,680
the top.

531
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:41,960
And that was that, you know, today, if you don't have a TrackMan and you are an instructor,

532
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:46,080
those are the things you look for out there on the field.

533
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:50,000
So it's, it's funny because I do a lot of teaching off of maths cause we don't really

534
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,200
have a grass area to hit off of, you know, so you're, you're a little limited with what

535
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,920
you can kind of see from that divot perspective.

536
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:05,720
And I'm the, I am the prototypical, my practice swing divots are literally tour quality, perfect,

537
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,580
straight, maybe even a hair from the inside of the outside.

538
00:27:09,580 --> 00:27:13,280
But then you put a ball in front of me and the ball flight is relatively straight.

539
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:18,080
I mean, you know, in the real world, pretty good, but my, my divot pattern is left.

540
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:25,800
And so I'm, I'm all for understanding what your divot pattern is, especially if you're,

541
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,840
you know, pulling it or whatever.

542
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,880
I think it's very beneficial.

543
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:35,440
I use divot pattern, like with real grass, more with the low point number and kind of

544
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:41,600
maybe even where the direction of the, of the, but obviously direction is important.

545
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,560
It's just, you know, I, I, where are you bottoming out?

546
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,640
And then that's that again, kind of leads to the path issue.

547
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:52,360
Cause if you brought them out earlier, if you're kind of closer to the equator or even

548
00:27:52,360 --> 00:27:56,760
never behind, but if you're closer to almost, we call it picking, right.

549
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,880
You kind of don't take a divot.

550
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,280
You kind of pick, you kind of pick them all off the ground.

551
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,800
And you're still solid.

552
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:07,160
You can still be solid, but that's typically that inside outside to the right swing path

553
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,160
guy.

554
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,160
Yes.

555
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,760
Whereas the guy who's a little bit outside in or swing left guy is kind of that more

556
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:20,280
divot ball first and then the divot is roughly, you know, one, almost two inches after the

557
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:21,280
ball.

558
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,520
That's a little extreme, but you get the idea.

559
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:24,520
Absolutely.

560
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,160
Because the angle of attack.

561
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,720
Yeah, it just changes.

562
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:28,720
It just changes.

563
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:33,240
So yeah, I, you know, get, get, get something out there.

564
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,560
Get, give yourself something to give yourself some feedback.

565
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,240
Put something down on the ground.

566
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,120
So you kind of have a visual of what you're trying to do.

567
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,120
Yeah.

568
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:48,720
And, and, and, you know, really be identifying where the starting line of that ball flight

569
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:56,280
is, which, you know, we talk about is so club face driven as far as what the face is doing,

570
00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:03,280
but it really, they do work hand in hand the path path really kind of controls the spin

571
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,000
right to left or left or right.

572
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,000
Yeah.

573
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,920
But you know, it does start, it does, it does obviously come into play on the starting line

574
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,280
that the face is really.

575
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,520
So maybe next week we just talk about, okay, that's great.

576
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:15,520
Now we've got a good path.

577
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:16,520
We've established a great path.

578
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,320
We know what the path is doing.

579
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,720
Maybe next week we start talking more about what the face angle should be doing, how you

580
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:26,120
should be kind of arriving at that position with the club face.

581
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,480
Like you said, really matching up to what your path is doing.

582
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:30,480
That's the goal.

583
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:31,480
That's the goal.

584
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,960
The goal is to, to make those two things the same, whether they're negative or positive,

585
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,960
it doesn't matter or left or right or whatever.

586
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:38,960
Yeah.

587
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:43,920
You know, the big thing I see with, with some of my students, even if they have a good path,

588
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,240
I've had a student just the other day had a really good path.

589
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,440
He was out to about two degrees positive.

590
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:55,200
But his club face was just as wide open as it could be, you know?

591
00:29:55,200 --> 00:30:01,100
So you know, be mindful, even if you have a really good path, you've got to have a face

592
00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:05,560
that that compliments what you're trying to do to make sure that goes straight.

593
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:06,560
Yeah.

594
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:07,560
100%.

595
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,680
I think we'll let's get into that one a little more next week.

596
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:15,320
Cause we can, we can talk about grip position and how your hands are on the club, you know,

597
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,240
the controls of the face and a lot of different things in that.

598
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,920
And there's, there's a lot to be said for that though.

599
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:25,440
Maybe the last thing I'll say about sort of the path part is so I've been teaching a lot

600
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:30,560
indoors, you know, at that, at the impromptu hitting bay that we've got in the pro shop

601
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:31,560
at Oakley.

602
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:36,560
And it's, it's probably eight feet from the mat to the screen.

603
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:37,560
Okay.

604
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:42,960
And we have some sidewalls put up probably four feet from the back wall of the screen

605
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,160
forward.

606
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:51,720
So there's, there's, and the screen is 10 feet wide.

607
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:52,960
Okay.

608
00:30:52,960 --> 00:31:00,360
Um, it's, it's hard to do this, but I'm going to pick on a couple of juniors that I've taught

609
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,560
over the last four or five days.

610
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:02,840
I won't break their names up.

611
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:03,840
Obviously.

612
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:09,080
I've had a couple of juniors boy and girl, they've missed the entire enclosure.

613
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:17,760
Um, because at impact, so they miss it left, the club faces super obviously shot.

614
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,360
And I'll say to them, Hey, where's the club face?

615
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,040
Well, club faces left coach.

616
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,520
I said, yeah, exactly.

617
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,920
But it's because they're falling back right there.

618
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,640
The weights on their right leg.

619
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:32,000
That's the only way you can actually get the club face that far left and in the closure

620
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,400
that you're trying to hit.

621
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,080
It's eight feet in front of you with 10 feet wide.

622
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,480
And I'm not making fun of them at all.

623
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,840
Cause I've got, we got all, you know, men and ladies that do this.

624
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:43,840
Absolutely.

625
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:51,800
The, the, the kind of the point is like, if you, if you don't shift, if you don't put

626
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:58,200
the pressure from your right leg back into your left leg, as you make the downswing,

627
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,240
almost nothing else matters because you're going to be in a bad position.

628
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,240
Now they're doing it.

629
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:08,120
I've mentioned, I, when I said that story to you, they're both juniors, right?

630
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,520
So what they don't have, you know, every once in a while, I see it with an older, older

631
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:18,960
man or lady, but they don't have the wrist strength to maintain the club face to go straight

632
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,040
enough towards the screen.

633
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,320
It's just kind of why they're doing it.

634
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:24,880
You said it, you said it, you said it early.

635
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:25,880
We'll let you know.

636
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,560
Like the club head is too heavy for them.

637
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,960
So the shaft goes left or the head goes left them.

638
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,440
They've got grandfather's clubs.

639
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:37,440
Yeah.

640
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,440
You know what I'm saying?

641
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:39,440
Yeah.

642
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,160
They just didn't, the clubs aren't necessarily designed for them.

643
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:50,280
So the point being of all that is your pressure has to be, you know, cheat downswing move

644
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:55,400
to make sure that the path goes more straight down the line and to make sure that the face

645
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,400
goes straight where it's trying to go to.

646
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,240
That's kind of the whole point of that.

647
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:00,240
Yeah.

648
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,760
So you got to have that, you know, as you said, keeping that path, you know, at least

649
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:09,280
as we said, closer to a zero or out towards the second basement, keeping it positive.

650
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,920
And then, you know, as you said, you know, next, next talk is, is how do we and what

651
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,560
do we need to do to get that face kind of square?

652
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:17,560
Yeah.

653
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:18,560
Yeah.

654
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:23,000
I think that's where we head towards and get people ready for the spring.

655
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,920
So did you catch any of the PGA tour this, this weekend at all?

656
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,160
Did you catch some of the guns coming out?

657
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,160
Yeah.

658
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,160
Yeah.

659
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:32,160
Yeah.

660
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,040
Those guys are first of all, they're, they're good.

661
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,240
You know, they're all 20 under par.

662
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,800
Well, it was a resort course to start off with.

663
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,600
Everybody was having fun for the first three days.

664
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,520
It looked like, it looked like everybody kind of cracked up and broke up a little bit on

665
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,640
the, on the final day talking about pressure.

666
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:57,680
So, yeah, I mean, it's, it's again, I've, I've never not even close to shooting 61,

667
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:04,280
but when pot get hot gutter sheets 61 on sets, the course record ties it, you know, typically

668
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,080
those course records are done on Thursdays, Fridays, you know, maybe some Saturdays, but

669
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,160
not typically done on Sundays.

670
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,160
Yeah.

671
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,960
Sometimes the girl, did you see the girls event, the ladies event yesterday?

672
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:14,960
No, I didn't.

673
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:15,960
I didn't.

674
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:16,960
What happened there?

675
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:22,440
So, so the lady who came to comes in second, she shoots 11 under par yesterday.

676
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:23,440
Oh, wow.

677
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:24,440
11 under.

678
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:25,440
Wow.

679
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,960
And she came in second, which is kind of harsh to say, Hey, how'd you do?

680
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:30,960
I shot 11 under.

681
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:31,960
Oh, great.

682
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:32,960
Did you win?

683
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:33,960
No, I came in second.

684
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:39,000
Um, because, because the girl that came in first was seven under par.

685
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:45,720
Um, but just, you know, again, just, it's, it's, it's just crazy how good all of these

686
00:34:45,720 --> 00:34:49,320
players are and how there's just not a concern.

687
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:54,240
There's just, you know, if you're going to play golf, well, you can't have any fear.

688
00:34:54,240 --> 00:34:56,160
You just can't.

689
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,160
Absolutely.

690
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,760
And these young kids that are coming out now, they're coming out of the college ranks and

691
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,640
they're just hungry to win.

692
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:07,280
I mean, and they, they, you know, they seem almost insulted if they don't win in the first

693
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,800
year or two where, you know, you remember back in the day, like, Hey, wait till you're,

694
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,480
you know, I remember Curtis Strange, you know, interviewing Tiger.

695
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:14,880
Oh, wait, you'll know.

696
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:15,880
Wait till you get to your thirties.

697
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:21,000
I mean, these kids are like, no, I want a major when I'm before I'm 25 and I want to

698
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,600
be in the hall of fame by the time I'm in 30 years old.

699
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,560
So I mean, they're coming out guns blazing.

700
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:31,120
Well, there, yeah, there's that Aldrich kid there, Pacquiao.

701
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:35,800
I mean, he's the longest hitter on tour, fastest ball speed on tour.

702
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:36,960
He's 20.

703
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,040
He's 20.

704
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,880
Just turned 20.

705
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,840
Not in the shape that you would look that you see on tour.

706
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,640
No, he's not in that type of shape.

707
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:47,880
He's heavy.

708
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,200
He's super strong.

709
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,200
Big kid.

710
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:55,800
I'm really, really like, if I could have you guys go like watch his swing, I would tell

711
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,960
you to try to emulate his base for his driver.

712
00:35:58,960 --> 00:35:59,960
Yeah.

713
00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:01,560
He's got such a good solid base.

714
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,960
It just looks very, very powerful.

715
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,120
Like he's really ready to make great.

716
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,280
He reminds me of like a Julius Boros or something like that.

717
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,280
Yeah.

718
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,280
If any of you guys know that go look that up.

719
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:17,840
But he was a hell of a golfer too and kind of has that same build, a very big athletic

720
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:18,840
kind of guy.

721
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:19,840
You know what I mean?

722
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:20,840
Yeah.

723
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:25,600
He's got that and then he's also got, which at the same time he's got Joaquin Nieman side

724
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:26,600
bend.

725
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:27,600
Flexibility.

726
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:28,600
That's a lot for a Monday morning.

727
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:29,600
Right.

728
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:30,600
Exactly.

729
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:31,600
Flexibility.

730
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:32,600
Yeah.

731
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,760
And that's how he can kind of keep his positions, maintain his posture and just bombs it.

732
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:41,200
And yeah, he's not a great chipper and that's kind of what ended up costing him.

733
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,480
You know, you didn't get up and down on the playoff hole.

734
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:50,360
You did get up and down two out of three times out of a bunker to get to the playoff part

735
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:51,360
of it.

736
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,640
But he's just, so I'm glad to see Brian Campbell win, you know, kind of a journeyman player

737
00:36:55,640 --> 00:37:00,200
that on tour, on and off tour since 2016.

738
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:07,120
So it was a good story and his girlfriend was like falling down, was so happy for him

739
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,720
and it was just kind of a fun, you know, feel good story type of thing.

740
00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:11,720
Absolutely.

741
00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:12,720
Absolutely.

742
00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:16,600
You know, and nothing to take away from Aldrick, but you know that kid's going to win on the

743
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:17,600
tour.

744
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,560
You know, he's probably going to win a couple of majors.

745
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,600
You know, he's going to be there, but this guy, Brian Campbell, this might be the highlight

746
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,120
of his career.

747
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,480
He gets a start on the PGA tour.

748
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,680
You know, I just feel for the guy because it's so tough for these guys to get on the

749
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:32,680
tour.

750
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,000
You used to be able to hold your card at the top 125.

751
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,880
Now it's the top 70.

752
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,800
So these guys to get a win and to really live out their dream.

753
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:47,200
I mean, he's a 31 year old journeyman, you know, at 31 probably he's probably got something

754
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,760
in the old ticker if by age 34, he's going to go, you know, run the old man's business

755
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,640
or something like that or, you know, something like that.

756
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,720
When this is just, I'm just, I'm happy for the guy.

757
00:37:57,720 --> 00:38:00,200
I'm rooting for the underdog all the time.

758
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:01,200
All the time.

759
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,200
Yeah.

760
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:06,360
No, it's, it's like you said, and the other thing he gave up, you know, he gives up 40

761
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,880
yards of driving distance to the Aldrick, which is again, another good way to, for our

762
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:15,000
listeners like, Hey, there's multiple, multiple ways to score.

763
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,680
And he said that he said that.

764
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:21,000
He's like, he said, we've got to interview after at the end and you know, the girl, the

765
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,520
lady was like, you know, how do you, how do you even, you know, put that in your head

766
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:30,840
as far as how to, uh, you know, you know, you're going to get out driven by 40 every

767
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:31,840
time.

768
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:32,840
He, he answered us so well.

769
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:33,840
He's like, it's not my game.

770
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,000
He goes, I know it's not my game.

771
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,200
I just do what I can do.

772
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,480
I don't worry about what the other people are doing.

773
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,160
And I know that if I can hit the ball where I want to, and I've got a really good short

774
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,400
game and that's how he ended up like the last hole he hits the ball.

775
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:48,400
He hits the ball.

776
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,080
Uh, it should have been out of bounds.

777
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:56,360
It should have been in the drive on the last playoff hole should have been in the trees.

778
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:01,800
And he got this great bounce and it, you know, knocked back from the trees, back out of the

779
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,680
ground, onto the playing surface.

780
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:04,840
We'll call it.

781
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,400
He's got 321 yards.

782
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,060
Aldrick's got 224 yards to the green.

783
00:39:12,060 --> 00:39:17,640
So he hits three wood or five wood to a position where he can hit it and he gets 68 yards left

784
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:23,480
in and gets 60 yards left into about three feet makes birdie Aldrick misses the green

785
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,360
and doesn't give it up and down.

786
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,560
You know, yeah, hit a clunky chip.

787
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:28,560
Yeah.

788
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:29,560
Yeah.

789
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,480
You know, so, uh, yeah.

790
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,400
The mental fortitude that Brian had to have for that.

791
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,120
I mean, just, just think about that.

792
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,360
You know, you never won on the tour.

793
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,480
You're facing probably what's going to be, you know, one of the top five stars in the

794
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:48,320
future head to head with all the big guys you're giving up, you know, 40, 50 yards to,

795
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,480
to, to this guy and to win, to come on top.

796
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:56,120
I mean, it just, as you said, it really goes to prove that there's more than one way to

797
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:57,120
skin a cat.

798
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,120
Right?

799
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,120
That's it.

800
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,120
That's it.

801
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,120
The ball.

802
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,120
Yep.

803
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:03,120
You're right.

804
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,120
You're right.

805
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:05,120
So no, it was good stuff.

806
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,120
Good stuff.

807
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,120
Now you're going out to practice a little bit.

808
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,120
You said, what are, what are you going to kind of work on here?

809
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,880
I'm going to work on here before we, uh, we break.

810
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,400
I just got up here to the range.

811
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:17,160
It is all completely frozen over and snow completely on this, on this range.

812
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,160
Perfect.

813
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,520
You should take, I should take some pics for the YouTube channel.

814
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,200
Yeah, let's do that.

815
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,640
Golf balls are on the ground.

816
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:29,200
They're frozen into the, into the water.

817
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,040
It looks like, uh, today.

818
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,440
So we're getting ready for a trip in about three weeks down to Charleston, South Carolina.

819
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:35,440
Okay.

820
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,600
So I got, I got a new driver, just like everybody else in the world.

821
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:38,600
We got new, some new product.

822
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,640
I got a couple of swing thoughts I'm going to go do.

823
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:46,600
I'm going to try to work on some, uh, trying to get my attack angle up on driver and, uh,

824
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,880
we'll hit it into the snow and see where it lands.

825
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:49,880
Love it.

826
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:50,880
Love it.

827
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,080
So, well, very good.

828
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:57,280
Hey, if you guys liked and loved this, please think about liking and subscribing and, uh,

829
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,640
you know, keep working on your swing plane before we break.

830
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,520
Any final thoughts, Sean, before we go?

831
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:03,840
No, I'm good.

832
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,360
No, just keep, keep doing whatever you guys can do to get better.

833
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,600
You know, just if it's good to go to the range, great.

834
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,120
If you can go work out for a little bit, if you can go stretch, whatever.

835
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,200
Um, yeah, just keep, keep working on it.

836
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,640
That's what we're all trying to get better.

837
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:17,640
All right.

838
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:18,640
So thank you guys.

839
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,440
Have a good one and we'll talk to you soon.

840
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:21,440
All right.

841
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:26,780
Thanks for doing