1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,600 Get ready to take off with Dynamic Golf. 2 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,720 Alright welcome back Dynamic Golf podcast listeners. 3 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:21,720 I am your co-host Tim McAlvanah and with me today is my partner as always Sean Klotz. 4 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:23,720 Sean, how are we doing today partner? 5 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,440 Oh we got a beautiful New England morning here at Femac. 6 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,600 It's around 40 degrees and we got some snow from last night. 7 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:36,280 I think we're going to get some of those pictures up on our website and kind of on the YouTube 8 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:37,720 area and stuff. 9 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,840 So it's just you know you got to remember where you're at. 10 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:41,840 Yeah. 11 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,360 Hopefully we're going to see some green grass here in about two or three months but right 12 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:49,280 now we are what we are so we got to kind of figure out different ways to keep our game 13 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:54,840 going and keep our swing moving and you know we do what we do. 14 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,520 We do what we got to do. 15 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,520 Well I think it's very interesting that you're you know when people see the pictures here 16 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:04,000 that you're going to go out and hit some golf balls today and you know 44 degrees and bright 17 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,120 and sunny is a pretty nice day up there in Boston right now isn't it? 18 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,480 Well you know again you can't just stay dormant right? 19 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,360 You don't get better by sitting on the couch. 20 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:14,520 Correct. 21 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:15,760 So you got to keep going. 22 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:20,960 You got to keep working at it and it's been what has it been about two weeks since I hit 23 00:01:20,960 --> 00:01:26,120 a ball because I was down in Florida two weeks ago but it just if you love the game like 24 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:31,520 we do and if you have the time like I do currently you got the two little ones there. 25 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:37,800 You're not as able to just you know jump out and go hit balls but you know it's a day off 26 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:44,440 and I did just come from the gym like because you know you kind of work on your core stuff 27 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:50,080 and flexibility at the gym but you got to hit balls so you got to practice. 28 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,600 Did you happen to watch any of the AT&T yesterday? 29 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:53,600 Yeah. 30 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,040 Yeah I watched a lot of the AT&T. 31 00:01:55,040 --> 00:02:00,840 Roy really surmised it with that eagle on what was it number 13 or 14 or something like 32 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,840 that and it was pretty well over after that. 33 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,640 You mean the driver 7 iron on a par 5? 34 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:08,640 You mean that shot? 35 00:02:08,640 --> 00:02:13,560 Yeah yeah that's a whole especially at that course you know what I mean? 36 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:18,640 And I played there before too and that's that route there that line that he took on his 37 00:02:18,640 --> 00:02:20,560 drive on 14 you don't do that. 38 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,320 That's not like those houses are in play. 39 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,520 You don't just go over the houses or at least normal people don't. 40 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:28,520 Human. 41 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,920 So yeah he said exactly. 42 00:02:31,920 --> 00:02:38,440 But I thought some of the commentary was interesting about how they said that maybe it's come up 43 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:39,440 maybe 18. 44 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,440 You played 18 great too right? 45 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,240 Tell the listeners how you played 18. 46 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:50,360 I played it beautifully you know right down the middle and onto the green and just you 47 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:51,360 know. 48 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:52,880 But iron off the tee. 49 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:58,240 Yes iron off the tee you know playing conservative golf making sure that you know he keeps it 50 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,560 in the fairway like we kind of tell some of our students right? 51 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,400 Yeah yeah he hits iron. 52 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:10,000 He hits I think he hits maybe 8 iron for second shot 7 iron way up to about 100 110. 53 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,440 He hits a 15 ledge on the green and then he two putts and there you go. 54 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,200 Like we've talked about that so many times in our world. 55 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,400 And that's such a daunting hole too you know what I mean? 56 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:25,040 You've got all that water to the left of you for a guy who draws the ball that's got to 57 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:30,360 be kind of intimidating and then to have the mental acuity to just take an iron off there 58 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,400 and do that is pretty stout stuff. 59 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:38,280 And he said it after the interview he said he's like you know if I had a two shot lead 60 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,560 I might hit driver but I had a three shot lead so I figured I might as well just play 61 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:46,640 smart and just hit three quality shots and you know and kind of bring it in. 62 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:54,160 But the thing I was trying to get to was the commentators were talking about that during 63 00:03:54,160 --> 00:04:02,160 the off season he hit balls into a simulator for three months because this is really funny. 64 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,360 He didn't like the shape of his swing. 65 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,560 He wanted to kind of work on his motion and the best way for him to be able to do that 66 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:14,520 was indoors seeing the video and he's Rory flipping knockaway. 67 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:20,320 He's not Tim McElveen, he's not Sean Klotz, he's not you know dynamic golf listener number 68 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:21,320 400. 69 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:28,240 He's Rory McElroy and he's changing his swing in the off season in a simulator trying to 70 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,240 get better. 71 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:36,360 Was it you know when he talked about it was it something to do with why his ball his like 72 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,980 you know wedges and stuff like that go left all the time? 73 00:04:38,980 --> 00:04:41,920 Was that kind of what is what is dynamic was? 74 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:46,280 So they didn't it was more the commentator who brought it up it wasn't Rory. 75 00:04:46,280 --> 00:04:47,280 Okay. 76 00:04:47,280 --> 00:04:51,560 But basically the commentator I don't know if it was A's Angers, you know CBS, it was 77 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:57,000 Jim Nance or whoever but it was one of those guys who was talking about he just felt like 78 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:05,120 his swing broke his swing would break down under some pressure situations last year and 79 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:10,480 another interesting comment that he did make is that he wants to be he's kind of patterning 80 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:17,080 himself in 2025 after Scottie Scheffler which again I think is like a really smart intelligent 81 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:23,520 way to see what the competition is doing and his main point was like he just doesn't want 82 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:24,520 to make bogeys. 83 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:30,160 He doesn't mind making you know making more pars but he just doesn't want to make bogeys 84 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:36,440 and then over the weekend at Pelwich he had one bogey and 36 holes. 85 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:41,800 Yeah absolutely makes the unbelievable you know driver 7 iron and even the wedge shot 86 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:48,040 on 15 that he that he stuck to yeah you know a foot or whatever. 87 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:52,240 And he had a hole in one too on the second day too so you know I mean had a pretty good 88 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:53,240 week right? 89 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,760 That's correct that's correct. 90 00:05:55,760 --> 00:06:00,040 Had the opportunity to play Pelwich back in 98 so it's always great being able to kind 91 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,840 of watch events where you've played the course but number 17 is is so hard like and they 92 00:06:04,840 --> 00:06:07,240 just make it look so easy. 93 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:12,440 They get the pin cut you know 12 paces off on the other side of that rough and it's a 94 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:17,440 narrow narrow green it's wide it's super wide you know left to right it's narrow front to 95 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:18,440 back. 96 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,640 These guys are just they're just good. 97 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:25,000 And if I remember right when you look at the tee you'd pretty much just look out towards 98 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,720 the ocean don't you? 99 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:27,720 Yeah that's correct. 100 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,560 And that's pretty intimidating in itself. 101 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,840 Yep because you I mean you could have different wind conditions which is what they had on 102 00:06:34,840 --> 00:06:40,920 Saturday apparently I didn't really watch much of Saturday but it was pretty miserable. 103 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:48,320 Yeah I think you know they're just so solid each time and the differences between the 104 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:56,520 winner and the second place is so minuscule minimal but there's you know 40 guys within 105 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,760 kind of six or eight strokes and it's all just kind of who makes the putts you know 106 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:05,960 maybe Rory distances literally distances himself from other players because he hits it so far. 107 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,040 So it's nice it's nice to be able to hit. 108 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:14,400 I mean the 14 on the second shot on 14 the par 5 he hit seven iron from 210. 109 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:15,400 Yeah. 110 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,200 They and you is seven wood or something or you know. 111 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:23,440 It's my five wood I think probably maybe a three wood at that point. 112 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,760 Yeah uphill uphill by the way. 113 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,720 It's like and he's just that's what Tiger used to do to the field right. 114 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:37,040 He could hit the ball so high when he wanted to and he could just dominate some of the 115 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,880 short not shorter courses dominate some of the golf courses because he was coming at 116 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:45,640 it from a different angle you know how his how his ball flight was coming in. 117 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,640 Well I think it kind of goes back to you know I've been listening to some of our old podcasts 118 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:54,040 but it kind of goes back to that conversation what we had with Sean Van Patten about the 119 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:59,680 strokes gained right you know how how each one of these players are looking for just 120 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:06,000 that minuscule of improvement to get better and it really is you know I think a lot of 121 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,760 those guys are going to that you know science and stuff like that now. 122 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:15,960 Yeah so so true so you know for our listeners today we're going to kind of tackle this this 123 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:21,960 weight shift pressure angle of attack low point sort of divot note you know to divot 124 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,960 or not to divot type of conversation. 125 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:29,240 And I think if you kind of put in some of the stuff that we're going to talk about not 126 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,520 all of it's going to be this is going to be one of the episodes you know I think people 127 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,520 should listen to multiple times because they're going to get a lot. 128 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:41,800 Yeah and we don't want them to try to do everything in one swing correct you know take take take 129 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,200 part of it and go work at it for two weeks and then come back and listen to it again 130 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,580 and put the next part of into play. 131 00:08:47,580 --> 00:08:54,120 So yeah I think what what's your I mean just you personally making a golf swing sort of 132 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,840 I guess maybe explain to the listeners you know we've we've talked about this a little 133 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:02,360 before in the past but let's really just go with okay what's the difference between hitting 134 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,540 an eight iron versus a driver like what are you thinking about when you're trying to make 135 00:09:06,540 --> 00:09:10,440 your golf swing and with those two different golf clubs as far as you know pressure and 136 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,840 weight and shift and all that type of stuff. 137 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:18,080 Yes so for me and what I'm trying to do at least with with my irons is so I'm trying 138 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:23,800 to hit down on them I want to feel like for me personally I want to feel like my lead 139 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:28,720 shoulder is going towards the ground in my downswing I want to feel that angle of attack 140 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:35,600 down and then in results with the driver per se I really want to feel like my left shoulder 141 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:40,760 or my shoulders are moving what what you would call a positive right moving up. 142 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:47,000 Okay those are my two big swing thoughts for that and you know right or wrong I think that's 143 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,160 the the right way to start if that makes sense. 144 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:56,320 Yeah absolutely and it's a great point it's the if you get anything from this podcast 145 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:01,760 the two clubs are swung in a different plane they're swung downward versus upwards your 146 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:08,120 body's working differently so for me I'm a little more lower body oriented than upper 147 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:14,240 body so what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to feel it in my feet and how that movement 148 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:21,240 works from my from my you know back foot into my front foot on an iron and that's early 149 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:26,440 early in the downswing like like arguably before the downswing even starts I'm already 150 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:31,480 trying to shift I'm going to keep using the word pressure I'm trying to shift the pressure 151 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:38,120 from my right foot into my left foot with an iron and it really is almost every iron 152 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:43,520 you know even up to hybrid so we're talking you know eight iron versus drivers we'll keep 153 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:49,360 it that simple but when you get to a longer club you start kind of doing it less for lack 154 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:54,800 of a better term okay but then I think I brought this up last time on our podcast there both 155 00:10:54,800 --> 00:11:03,800 the PGA show but that pressure shift I'm terrible this part with the driver if you got something 156 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:11,160 from this what I learned from the PGA show was at impact with a driver the pros have 157 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:19,440 around 10 to 15 percent of their weight on their left foot at impact front foot and that 158 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:24,120 means 85 percent of the weight is on the right foot yeah and then just like you said with 159 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:31,040 an iron we are completely the opposite inverse 85 on the left 15 percent on the right and 160 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:35,160 sometimes even more on the left as we get to a pitching wedge or we're hitting something 161 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,800 you know correct downward into it so I think that's the big picture stuff for our listeners 162 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:46,440 to really grasp and how you do that is probably a little bit up to you go try it go figure 163 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,000 it out go hit balls hit some I'm gonna hit some really bad golf shots today because I'm 164 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:55,200 gonna work on driver a lot and you know I'm not gonna transfer the weight correctly because 165 00:11:55,200 --> 00:12:00,680 I'm always kind of the downward attack angle with everything got you but yeah I think that's 166 00:12:00,680 --> 00:12:06,180 the main point is to get to realize that it's different because it's just amazing when you 167 00:12:06,180 --> 00:12:11,680 teach people and we take teach people every day like their concepts are they kind of have 168 00:12:11,680 --> 00:12:15,080 a general idea of it but or they don't they just think every club is supposed to be swung 169 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:19,880 the same way because yeah sometimes that's the conversation that the husband tells the 170 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:26,200 wife or that the grandfather tells the grandson or whatever you know absolutely so you know 171 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,180 and I think it's it's good to bring up that you you brought a little video back from the 172 00:12:30,180 --> 00:12:36,920 PGA show and some of the technology that we're using and that the industry is using to measure 173 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:41,760 those things is something called ball on I think it's like a shoe insole or something 174 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:47,160 like that which I think is a great technology I you know I'll have to do a little bit more 175 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:53,720 research and see just how accurate it is but it really does open up the door for instructors 176 00:12:53,720 --> 00:13:01,000 like myself and you to really show your students where pressure and weight go and have a measurable 177 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,740 you know visible measurement for people so I think that's that's really important too 178 00:13:05,740 --> 00:13:11,120 when you start looking into you know where you know when you start to explain these things 179 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:15,840 you try to get people a feel for it of course but I think if you can have you know it's 180 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:20,000 a new science and I think if you can give them a visual to see you know this is where 181 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:24,560 it's at and this is where it's at they have a greater understanding and I will say that 182 00:13:24,560 --> 00:13:28,760 even talking to some instructors showing that video they're still like they don't believe 183 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:35,360 it so it really is because I put it in the professional thing a professional app on on 184 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:39,720 Facebook and I got a lot of people no that's not true that's not true and I'm like guys 185 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,880 the data shows this and even if I look at swing catalyst it shows the data for this 186 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:50,200 so yeah you know it's tough to believe that but you know we're you know that's the great 187 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:54,920 thing about the new science that's coming to the golf industry so so it's it's funny 188 00:13:54,920 --> 00:14:01,120 I've you know been reading and studying golf since I was you know 15 or whatever I definitely 189 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:06,280 remember there being a book that I've gotten I think at the house Ben Crenshaw was kind 190 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:12,600 of it's a Ben Crenshaw book for our listeners you know younger than 40 would go look up 191 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:19,480 Ben Crenshaw Masters winner best putter arguably ever type of thing correct never a super never 192 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:24,360 a super long ball striker but he was kind of a student of Harvey Penick and again if 193 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,720 you don't know who that is you need to go do your research too correct there's a great 194 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:34,400 instructor right there right right Texas kid anyway so so he he his book was which I thought 195 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:39,320 was still fascinating is he's interpreting he's got his information on the left hand 196 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:44,800 side of hey how to initiate the downswing and then on the right hand side it's Byron 197 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:52,720 Nelson's information from 1955 oh wow and all Byron Nelson did was win 11 tournaments 198 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:58,520 in a row and you know he's pretty good too in the world of golf so but the thing that 199 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:05,480 caught me on the driver side on this picture was that Byron Nelson would he his statement 200 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:13,440 was when I hit driver accurately or accurately and the best distance that I hit driver it's 201 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:20,580 it's when I've got my head in line with my right knee at impact of the driver so your 202 00:15:20,580 --> 00:15:26,760 head has to stay significantly back yeah with your driver if you really think about where 203 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:31,480 the your right knee is at impact with the driver so you're way back yeah and that's 204 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,200 kind of the thing is like those guys didn't have track man Hogan didn't have all that 205 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:41,800 stuff and you know Bobby Jones and Byron Nelson and Sam Snead but but they got it they got 206 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:48,400 it so you know they kind of understood the laws of physics those haven't changed 300 207 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,920 years or you know whatever thousand years and I think you bring up a really good point 208 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:57,840 for a lot of our our listeners is that typically when I see people hitting the driver struggling 209 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:03,440 with the driver their head is moving you know in front of the ball right you know so I gotta 210 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:07,160 get my way to my left side Tim I gotta get my way to my left side I gotta finish I gotta 211 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:11,200 make this pretty finished correct how do I get that finish right and that's that's what 212 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:15,840 I want to show my students the video I gave you and stuff for some balance yeah they're 213 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,640 like well how do I finish I said I don't care how you finish I care what you're doing at 214 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:24,760 impact you could be ugly when you finish because some of these guys especially long drive guys 215 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,320 they don't finish pretty they're not a fit they're not it's not a finish pretty sport 216 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:32,360 anymore no it's a hit it as hard as we can and get it up in the air and launch it well 217 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:36,520 there's nothing pretty about Scotty Schaeffler swing right but he's just winning tournaments 218 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:42,640 yeah I mean I don't know about that but yeah I mean it's a it's a much more artist move 219 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:48,000 you know he's got his feet moving you know there's he's not Adam Scott he's not correct 220 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,640 right correct it's not text I got you I got you know it's not something you're like hey 221 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:57,960 I want to you know totally copy that but you know yeah you wouldn't teach it yeah but you 222 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:02,920 definitely if your student had it you'd have them keep it right yeah but it's that's a 223 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:08,080 good I mean side note but like this Scotty Schaeffler has got such width in his golf 224 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:12,040 swing we now don't want to get into wide narrow wide today but he's got such width in his 225 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:17,080 motion and I think that's a good takeaway for some of our listeners again go because 226 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:21,040 people get narrow and whatever let's let's keep it to what we're talking about but yeah 227 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:26,320 he's uh yeah but obviously his footwork feet work you know it's not fundamental to what 228 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:35,080 you would see from what again Rory looks beautiful it looks that whole thing looks musical well 229 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,960 you've got a lot of people copying his swing I mean you've got the lady on the LPGA that 230 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:44,000 won what two three years ago that's got the exact same swing as his you've got Tiger telling 231 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:50,360 Charlie to copy Rory's swing and yet he's at track manner and inside a studio trying 232 00:17:50,360 --> 00:17:57,280 to change it so yeah it's a baffling game isn't it so funny yeah it is so let's talk 233 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:02,160 about pressure and reverses weight shift because again that's something that you know we were 234 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:06,520 you know we're very similar ages we kind of were kind of brought up in the sport similarly 235 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,160 like it was always a weight shift thing like get your weight to your right side get your 236 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:14,080 weight to your back side yeah right and then and then on your downswing well get your weight 237 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:20,720 left as quick as you can I never really heard pressure I didn't I tell probably about I 238 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:28,720 I know when I heard it it was roughly about 17 years ago at a PGA teaching the PGA yeah 239 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:34,560 sorry in Port St. Lucie Rick Bartina was giving me a lesson he was the director of PGA instruction 240 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,420 to the whole PGA just an amazing teacher had the luxury of being able to go down there 241 00:18:38,420 --> 00:18:44,000 for a lesson because Doc Whalen got me a one like a two-hour package with him but it was 242 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:49,880 a it was just and this is 17 years ago and he had is the first time I saw the force plates 243 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:55,040 that's the first time I saw that in person and I got it I'm like oh my gosh we've been 244 00:18:55,040 --> 00:19:00,440 trying to tell people a hit off of a downhill lie for 10 years this makes it much more understandable 245 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:06,800 you know but so so yeah again kind of with your students and sort of how do you initiate 246 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,360 the backswing how do you initiate the downswing kind of what are you telling people about 247 00:19:10,360 --> 00:19:15,200 the difference between that pressure move versus like you know weight shift yeah so 248 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:19,600 I mean for my students I really when when they get up to the top of the the golf swing 249 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:24,560 and something that's kind of resonated you know just hanging around you and Sean Phan 250 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:29,100 Patton you know really getting that feeling of when I get up to the top I want to feel 251 00:19:29,100 --> 00:19:32,480 like and this is something Sean would drill into my head all the time is I want to feel 252 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:37,160 like I'm squashing on a grape before I start that downswing with my left foot so I really 253 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:42,540 want to feel like I'm pressing down hard on that thing to get that you know what we used 254 00:19:42,540 --> 00:19:46,400 to say in the old days or old instructors say just shift your weight right just shift 255 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,640 your weight to the left and now we're we're getting new terminology where it's really 256 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:55,920 put the pressure into the ground on the left foot to initiate that start does that make 257 00:19:55,920 --> 00:20:01,320 sense it does yeah there's there's you know again if they if listeners want to go go kind 258 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:07,160 of do some YouTube research there's a guy named Danny Maude that does a good video on 259 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:12,480 I think the again big picture stuff for the listeners it's if you're if you're in if 260 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:17,440 you're in posture and you're getting ready to make your golf swing the movement is on 261 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:23,920 the as you go back that right hip goes backwards and and the left the pressure goes into your 262 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:29,640 left foot initially on the takeaway like like you're gonna press off the ground with the 263 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:35,120 right leg because you're trying to get your right hip kind of tall now again I'm going 264 00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:39,720 to back up here a little bit yeah when I start my when I start my golf swing the first half 265 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:45,520 of it from from a address to hip high where my hands are hip high I've definitely moved 266 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:50,400 the pressure from my left foot to my right foot I need to make that clear I haven't moved 267 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:56,640 outside the box the box being you know kind of like in between your where your right leg 268 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:01,480 and left leg is so you haven't moved your weight but you've moved your pressure yeah 269 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:07,040 and you can do that and that's you know when we talk about go listen to this one five times 270 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:13,240 I need you guys to get that that's us that's such a it's not a small it's not a small difference 271 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:17,620 it's a big difference in how you start making a golf swing because weight shift is moving 272 00:21:17,620 --> 00:21:24,280 your entire chest mass you know center your body like your buttons on your shirt that's 273 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,000 moving that to the right if you literally just move that to the right trying to get 274 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:32,680 your buttons on your shirt to your right shoulder that's weight shift that's that's that's not 275 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,600 great that's not what we're trying to do we're trying to move pressure initially into your 276 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:41,600 right foot and then and then that feeling of that right hip going backwards and getting 277 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:46,640 tall goes exactly to your point to you Mac if I can get at that at the top of my backswing 278 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:53,040 if I can get that right hip tall and the right leg certainly never dead straight but straighter 279 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:57,800 than it was at the beginning correct still still some bend that sets me up for what you 280 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:03,640 talked about was okay oh now now I can work downhill into the golf ball and now I can 281 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:09,640 go the other way which is move the pressure back into my left foot early in the downswing 282 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:16,560 it's not arguably prior to the top of the backswing yep and I'm ready and then funny 283 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:22,840 I was watching one another YouTube video yesterday with one of my clients and and the guy on 284 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:27,640 YouTube he's like okay once you get there it was a he's a analysis of Adam Scott swing 285 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:32,120 and he's like once you get there once you've started the downswing and you get the weight 286 00:22:32,120 --> 00:22:36,760 the pressure back in your left side golf's pretty easy I'm like well I don't know about 287 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:42,280 all that for average people but yeah you know well it definitely simplifies things right 288 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,160 yeah yeah it should be like get out of the way like stop stop thinking at that point 289 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:51,440 you can't fix it go yeah momentum's the trains left the station at that point it is going 290 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:57,240 just ride with it at that point right yep that's the term momentum I love it yeah you 291 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:04,480 why would you want to stop the action the momentum yeah let it let it let it develop 292 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:09,600 what it and and be intentional with it and be you know let's go let's let's be really 293 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:14,360 intentional ball after ball give it yeah there we go now we're starting the next topic give 294 00:23:14,360 --> 00:23:20,560 it uh ball first do it after you know all those things come as a result of doing the 295 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:27,880 first part well correct correct so so for my students what I kind of do to get them 296 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:33,280 the feeling of that that start that pressure and stuff like that is what I do is I get 297 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:38,040 down on the ground and I hold their golf club and then I'd say go ahead and start your swing 298 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,880 and you'll notice that they don't they're not going to move their weight they're going 299 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:46,080 to start trying to use their hands and and their pressure and they start to feel where 300 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:50,520 that pressure goes into the ground now if they start to slide and move then then we 301 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,880 know that they're they're doing it incorrectly but if they if I hold that club and have them 302 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,640 start you know try to initiate that start they start to feel that their hands and their 303 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,480 pressure starts to go down into that leg and they start to feel that their hands and chest 304 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:08,240 start to move as one unit so you you hold their club at address is that what you're 305 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,600 saying I'm trying to I'm learning today too yeah yeah so I will hold it at address when 306 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,600 they're they're at address and then I will just have them say okay try to start your 307 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:21,280 swing and they will really start to feel that they have to kind of move these things in 308 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,040 a certain way without you know because they can't really shift at that point they have 309 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:29,600 to kind of move some different stuff so once I kind of hold that club there a little bit 310 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,480 and they kind of start that you can start to see the remnants of the right hip starting 311 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:39,400 to go back a little bit and not to the side so hold the club head itself or the shaft 312 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,200 no the club head itself just kind of get down on your knees and just hold the club a little 313 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:47,000 bit and then just say hey move the club just a little bit and they will start to get a 314 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:52,680 sense of where that pressure is and if they start to shift you're like hey and then they 315 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,000 will start to get the feeling of getting that hip back behind them and getting that that 316 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:02,560 weight shift back in that right heel so does that does that help them feel because so many 317 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:07,960 people pick the club head up early they just use their hands to pick the club head up does 318 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:14,440 that help them at all basically get that feeling of kind of like I always talk about like left 319 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:20,040 shoulder starts the club back like your your big mouth absolutely because if I hold that 320 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,920 thing I can't really use my hands to move it away I'm gonna have to engage bigger muscles 321 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:29,760 to get that to kind of move so absolutely it gets that that left shoulder to move it 322 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:34,600 gets everything to kind of move in in one unit and standard as you said the hands just 323 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,600 flipping to the inside and and then you're really you're gonna get a lift and then no 324 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:43,920 pressure right no no it's all it's all upper body there's no there's no lower body engage 325 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:48,160 let's just pick your hands up and hey how come I'm not hitting it as far as I want well 326 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:53,120 you're not utilizing you know all your all your body type of stuff so that's good that's 327 00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:56,400 a good one I don't think I've really kind of heard that one or seen that one so that's 328 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,640 good yeah it starts at the beginning right I mean if we can get it at the beginning part 329 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:05,160 right then it can go throughout but once you start to kind of get that lift right or that 330 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,960 slide then there's no pressure in those feet right yeah one of our buddies there Sean Van 331 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:17,160 Padden taught you know mostly by Tim Poults great teacher in the Zephyrals area his you 332 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:22,960 know his takeaway was always the grip moved first before the club head did that was always 333 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,560 a you know odd odd looking to us because we're so used to kind of having everything uniform 334 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:34,320 but his grip definitely moved you know maybe an inch to the right before his club head 335 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:40,240 started doing so his hands started moving laterally to the right and that really engaged 336 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:45,480 kind of the shoulder takeaway and then it just got him set up to be you know again kind 337 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,720 of more big big picture muscles big muscles instead of kind of small twitch muscles yeah 338 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:56,040 so he kind of drags the club back or drags his hands back before the club moves and that's 339 00:26:56,040 --> 00:27:00,080 the person that kind of showed me that drill to be honest with you yeah yeah no it's good 340 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,840 stuff good stuff are you a divot guy or you do you care about the divot let's just talk 341 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:09,160 about depth not really where it's going side to side that might be a different one for 342 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,480 kind of club path and stuff but what do you do you take a divot you take more of a divot 343 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,320 with a wedge than you do with a seven iron or how does it change as you go throughout 344 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:23,920 the clubs maybe well I can say this I I do take a divot I like to take a divot I know 345 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:29,480 that when I compress the ball I've got a nice divot ahead of the ball and I can tell when 346 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:34,360 I don't hit it that divot starts probably just one-tenth of an inch behind it and it's 347 00:27:34,360 --> 00:27:37,800 not the best result so I definitely want to have a divot I want to have it ahead of the 348 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:44,000 ball I probably don't have the longest divot as most people but if I can hit it with a 349 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:49,480 downward blow with an iron it's definitely compressed yeah yeah and then the driver is 350 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:54,040 what what's the thought process there with driver with in respect to I'm gonna use the 351 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,760 word low point like where the low point of your swing is because we're talking about 352 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:02,720 when you hit it when you have a divot there's a low point that is either like you just said 353 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:07,200 either slightly behind the golf ball I use the word equator equator is like right at 354 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,560 the golf ball you've kind of picked it perfectly clean there's no divot at all yeah or there's 355 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:18,000 a ball first and you start seeing a you know some type of length after that swing of divot 356 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:23,520 so with driver are you trying to do the same thing with the low point of the attack angle 357 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:28,000 no so I'm I'm trying to do something completely different with my low point on that I want 358 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:35,160 my low point to be before the ball typically what I do is I'll put a sleeve box a sleeve 359 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:40,040 box of balls behind right next to where my golf ball is and that's where I put my club 360 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:45,360 head behind the ball and that's where I want to imagine my low point to be and then after 361 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:51,600 that I want to feel like I'm swinging up to the gods yeah there you go yeah right left 362 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:56,760 shoulder going high and swinging up to the gods yeah I know you've done this one before 363 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:01,320 I'll do it here later on this afternoon but the head cover drill in front of the ball 364 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,680 you know really kind of making sure that you elevate the golf ball club club works up put 365 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:10,320 the put the you know started a foot out in front of it yeah started two feet out in front 366 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,920 of it I don't care but get the get the concept of working upwards with the driver with your 367 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:19,760 shoulders again the weight the weights got to be more on your right leg that that impact 368 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:24,840 and then it would be on the left leg yeah you're not looking for any type of divot before 369 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:32,420 you're trying to bottom out the swing roughly two to three inches behind the ball depends 370 00:29:32,420 --> 00:29:37,280 a little bit on swing speed and what you're doing and I think if you got if you kind of 371 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,800 like went with that concept of I'm trying to bottom out two to three inches prior to 372 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:45,000 the golf ball you might get to one inch you know it's one of those exaggeration feels 373 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,720 correct feel versus real yeah yeah yeah but at least you were on the right track and you 374 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:56,120 weren't working downwards and then the key for the driver and again this is a you know 375 00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:01,760 we got we don't have six hours we want to keep our audience coming back so you you also 376 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:06,440 have to maintain the loft of the club as it goes through impact you can't with driver 377 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:13,360 you can't you're not trying to add loft you're trying to add angle yes angle of attack so 378 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:19,960 yeah so the the hands do have to stay in front of the club head even though you are working 379 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:24,960 on an upward attack angle and that will help you drive through the golf ball you'll keep 380 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:29,880 just just think of it I think to me the easiest way it's not easy but the easiest way is to 381 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:34,200 think of you you've got a 10 degree object and when it makes impact with that golf ball 382 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:40,480 you still want to have in general you want to kind of have a feel of 10 degrees of impact 383 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:46,640 at the golf ball but when you add in the fact that you've swung two inches behind the ball 384 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:52,200 you're actually at you're actually making impact with roughly 12 to 14 degrees of kind 385 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,960 of the loft of the club has changed a little bit because your shoulders have changed not 386 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,840 because you've flipped your right hand added your right hand whatever you're not trying 387 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:04,360 to add loft that's I think that's really when people try to switch to driver and switch 388 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,960 to swing up on it this is where they get in trouble they try to start swinging up on it 389 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,440 and using their release of their hands and they just hit high they hit it shorter and 390 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,680 they're like ah this doesn't work let me go back to my other way well could you kind of 391 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:24,240 touch on now let me ask you this could you touch on you know we want to hit up on it 392 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,560 but could you explain to some of the listeners what that does and why we want to do it and 393 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,880 what that does to our spin rate I think that's pretty important for people to understand 394 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:37,120 with the driver can you kind of explain that a little bit for us 100% and again Byron Nelson 395 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:43,240 1955 he got it you know Ben Hogan got it like they understood it they just didn't have the 396 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:49,720 data analytics part of it behind them they just they saw the ball go out and roll forward 397 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:55,520 when they did one type of you know kind of delivery and then when they saw the ball go 398 00:31:55,520 --> 00:32:00,880 up and land five feet from there where the ball you know it doesn't go to roll which 399 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,440 is a lot of our listeners because they'll maybe hit a little cut or a fade or slice 400 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,600 or whatever and yeah you're just gonna hit that like high spinny shot that just kind 401 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:15,360 of hits and stops on the ground so these guys got it you know 60 70 years ago now with Trackman 402 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:20,960 foresight flight scope I don't care you can you know data wise show the person hey and 403 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,000 it just it's it to me it is this simple and it's not simple but it is this simple as far 404 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,560 as I understand the concept it's simple delivery is a different thing yeah I'm hitting I'm 405 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:34,760 hitting a sand wedge from 70 yards my full swing sand wedge this goes 75 yards currently 406 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:39,640 whatever so that means I move the ball position back in my stance probably one one ball further 407 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:44,680 right of middle that enhances my downward attack angle that means I hit down into it 408 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:52,080 that means I take my 56 degree wedge I deliver it probably with around 48 degrees of loft 409 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,160 because my handles in front of the club my weight shifted I've never really gotten to 410 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,920 my right side all that stuff has happened which makes the I hit down into the ball the 411 00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:05,880 ball spins up the face of the club and that's what is starting to cause the backspin to 412 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:11,760 make the ball go up in the air land on the green and depending on how good bad different 413 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:16,220 your conditions are and kind of your speed is you might actually see the ball hopefully 414 00:33:16,220 --> 00:33:20,880 at least just hit the green and stop or tour level you'll see the ball kind of hit the 415 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:28,200 green and kind of spin back and yeah and that's that's a that's a sandwich so driver complete 416 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,960 opposite I don't want to have any of that concept I want to hit the ball on the with 417 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:38,300 the correct loft 12 to 14 degrees of loft as I come through it I want to have this kind 418 00:33:38,300 --> 00:33:44,120 of attack angle when I'm working upwards into it so basically you would you would reduce 419 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:48,320 the spin on the shot so you know the more that I hit down into it the more it's going 420 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,680 to spin the less I hit down into it the more I hit up on it I'm going to reduce the amount 421 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:58,880 of spin that can be yeah that's big I think a lot of our viewers need to understand that 422 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:04,960 concept on its own right you know if I want to have spin I hit down if I want to have 423 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:13,520 less spin I hit up up yep right and yeah draws don't go further than then fades in the air 424 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:19,720 which is the common misperception that draws go further than fades on the ground because 425 00:34:19,720 --> 00:34:25,400 the ball is got top spin and right to left spin so it's top spin coming out of the out 426 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:30,560 of the where it's coming off of you know the ball the club so it's in the air 200 yards 427 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:35,240 and then it's got forward momentum as it hits the ground and goes forward and goes left 428 00:34:35,240 --> 00:34:40,960 oh I hit the ball 260 or 245 yeah great you carried it 220 but that's okay exactly we 429 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,640 don't care how far we carry driver typically we care about where it ends up so if you hit 430 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:52,360 a 220 yard fade it's probably going to go 224 yards once gets done if you hit a 220 431 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:57,000 yard draw with some right to left motion to it you're probably going to end up going 240 432 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:02,600 245 so that's why if you're trying to get more distance if you're working on hey I'm 433 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:07,880 getting a little older I'm not hitting as far as I want to then then maybe there's some 434 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:14,840 characteristics to delivering the club again sort of with a little less loft but still 435 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:20,280 still working upwards so because you're trying to read again draws have less spin than fades 436 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:27,560 period correct that's that's that's why tour players like to hit fades and into greens 437 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,120 and they're long enough they don't really care about what they do with the driver anymore 438 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:38,600 yeah yeah it's amazing so with our with our listeners with the driver what is the what 439 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:43,280 is you know when they get into the simulator or whatever it may be or their little track 440 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:48,880 man's at home or rat spodos or whatever what's the spin rate that they're typically you know 441 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,640 a tour player and an average player what are they kind of looking for with a spin rate 442 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:59,240 with the driver so they get some kind of understanding of where they're at yeah it so I feel like 443 00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:03,600 when we do this we're talking to you know maybe five percent of the population maybe 444 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:08,720 ten percent of the population but to answer the question I would say in general depending 445 00:36:08,720 --> 00:36:12,960 on speed of how fast you're swinging the golf club yeah you're looking for somewhere between 446 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:21,120 2400 and 3200 rpms right and basically you know it's very very you know not the golf 447 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:26,260 ball doesn't care so if you're swinging something at 120 miles an hour your spin rate should 448 00:36:26,260 --> 00:36:32,040 be closer to that 2400 maybe even lower I mean there's definitely as you watch TV and 449 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,520 you watch the ball speed numbers and kind of the stuff that Rory's doing and all these 450 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:42,720 guys on tour they might be going calling more a cow might be going for 22,000 or 2100 because 451 00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:47,720 he wants to see a lower ball flight he doesn't care about the height he wants to see it but 452 00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:51,920 saying that and then so then just to finish that point then the guy the guy lady who's 453 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:59,160 swinging it driver at 90 miles an hour or or less they need they can't do it at two 454 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:04,720 at 2400 rpms because it would just never get in the air correct you got to have some kind 455 00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:10,320 of you got to get the ball lifted yeah so you have to have some spin rate so that's 456 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:17,280 why forever or not forever for the last 20 years the companies realized okay well then 457 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:23,520 the senior guy the lady they probably need a 12 or a 14 degree driver instead of a seven 458 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:28,400 eight nine degree driver that's all it is right and that's to get into that angle that 459 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:34,240 we're talking about right of hitting it up and it as we as we age it's tougher to get 460 00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:39,040 our body in those positions so I think that's great is that is that some of our listeners 461 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,300 need to kind of swallow a little pride and probably go to a little bit higher lofted 462 00:37:43,300 --> 00:37:50,720 and I think I'm close to getting there myself so yeah no it's I mean again going back kind 463 00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:54,240 of like almost college a little out of college high school you know not high school but kind 464 00:37:54,240 --> 00:38:02,960 of the college to maybe the 1990 to like 2000 2005 there was the the driver for the long 465 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:10,120 drive guys and even some of the players on tour John Daly would be four five eight degrees 466 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:14,240 right if you were a good player back in 1995 you would be hitting a seven and a half or 467 00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:19,560 an eight degree driver yeah but that's because you had the speed to deliver it with you could 468 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:25,360 you could make the speed of the club now I don't believe I haven't I think I'm accurate 469 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:30,720 with this statement I feel like that the loft on the clubs for the average tour player has 470 00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:37,840 gone up to probably somewhere in between that nine to almost ten ten degree you know type 471 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,560 of and then you get to a senior tour player and they're probably ten to ten maybe to eleven 472 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:47,440 degrees because they they do they've kind of knackler they figured out that okay I do 473 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:53,600 want the ball to go up in the air but then when it comes off the you know from that apex 474 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:59,860 I needed to go forward or you know some pepper and that's what we see you know think us open 475 00:38:59,860 --> 00:39:04,360 think think some of those golf courses that are set up like runways yeah where they're 476 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:10,440 you know they're hitting 375 yard drives like gryson those types of guys they're not carrying 477 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:16,600 at 375 they're still carrying at 325 but the fairways are mowed at you know 10 or whatever 478 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:22,320 faster than your pro course and you're down right yeah yeah green speed and that's why 479 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:28,440 it comes off and you can see and they Augusta Augusta is probably a really really good example 480 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:33,280 because people know that golf course they know some of the looks that's why number 10 481 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:38,440 it's such a it's a 470 yard par four yeah and they're hitting three with off the tee 482 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,760 because they want to get it into the slot into that little where the hill goes and they 483 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:49,160 wanted to roll forward they're trying to carry it 260 but it's going to end up going 320 484 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:54,400 after the roll yeah so yeah that's a speed slot right that little little speed slot to 485 00:39:54,400 --> 00:40:01,320 get down there yeah yeah yeah it's it's it's just uh so you know big picture stuff get 486 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:05,920 your pressure correct move your pressure correct think about it in your golf swing start thinking 487 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:11,120 about go look up your youtube stuff go there's a ton of videos on all this stuff we should 488 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,480 start posting some more i definitely will i know i'm a slacker but i think the more 489 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:20,240 that we you know that and if you got questions same thing i'll be talking if you got questions 490 00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:25,760 let us know yeah chat with us let us know we we want to we don't want to just tell you 491 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,560 what we're thinking we want some to answer your questions too so yeah yeah and if you 492 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:34,680 guys have any you know any suggestions for future episodes please let us know obviously 493 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,320 um but yeah you know we just don't want to sit up here and just talk to ourselves we 494 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,800 want to engage with our listeners and and listen to their comments and and see what 495 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:48,440 they have to say absolutely yeah so good stuff i thought you brought up a really good point 496 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:54,840 with the the golf ball and the spin rate a little bit um you know how the technology 497 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:59,920 with you know like john daily having that older club with the eight iron eight degree 498 00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:03,920 stuff and i just think it's it's interesting now with track man and all that that these 499 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:09,000 guys have gone to these higher lofted clubs like you said um and they're just maximizing 500 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:14,320 everything i mean it's just a whole new frontier it's you know they'll they'll take a 10.5 501 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:19,400 degree driver where what probably 20 years ago you wouldn't find a pro caught dead with 502 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:25,040 one of those right no you know so they're just maximizing everything and just you know 503 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:30,920 just revolutionizing the game with everything i think i'm right with this stat i'm not i'm 504 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:38,480 not 100 sure but yesterday that drive that rory hit on number um on number 14 the par 505 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:43,080 five you know again i would literally go go look this one up because it was such an amazing 506 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:49,360 shot i think his apex of his driver was 145 feet in the air when that thing got to the 507 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:55,000 top of it um and that's just you know and again the announcer is like people i don't 508 00:41:55,000 --> 00:42:00,440 think i've even seen that on the stat sheet of the ability to get it that high because 509 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:05,080 if we told our listeners to go hit it 145 yards if me and you go in or 145 feet in the 510 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:10,480 air we'd hit the ball 210 yards right like it would just be a pop-up yeah i mean that's 511 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:16,720 basically 14 stories high 15 stories i mean think about that i mean you go find a building 512 00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:22,520 that's you know probably seven stories and i'd be lucky to get over that and and i mean 513 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:27,600 you got one that's 15 wow that's that's amazing that's absolutely amazing yeah put it in that 514 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:32,480 perspective yeah yeah and it just shows you what you know what what they're working on 515 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:38,240 and uh so it's it's uh it's all of it you know we've given you guys a ton of information 516 00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:42,320 a lot of kind of data that's what i said at the beginning like this is one you want to 517 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:46,720 listen to you don't want to breeze through this one because this there's just a lot of 518 00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:54,960 uh good kind of nuggets to all that um absolutely just to realize that yeah so uh work work 519 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:59,160 on your you know work on your how you start the swing like you said i like your drill 520 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:03,760 there t mac a lot i like that feeling of kind of you know using your arms and your shoulders 521 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:09,120 to start the swing but the pressure immediately goes from left to right really really early 522 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:13,560 in your backswing and then you know we've done this one before a little bit too but 523 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,940 then depending on which teacher depending on which kind of mode of thought you're listening 524 00:43:17,940 --> 00:43:22,600 to when you get to the halfway point in that backswing these two moves can happen at the 525 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:28,680 same time you can lift your arms you know finish the shoulder turn and you can also 526 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:33,640 put that pressure from the right leg back into the left leg at the top here like before 527 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:37,920 you get to the top of your backswing those two things can happen at the same time i get 528 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:42,480 a lot of deer in the headlight books when i show that to people um but it's such a rhythm 529 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:47,160 thing i really like it to me i like it to just be a just put the club in my right hand 530 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:51,720 and let the weight of the club as i work up in my backswing be the thing that kind of 531 00:43:51,720 --> 00:43:58,120 rocks me back to my left side so i'm already ready i'm ready i'm already atop my back swing 532 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:03,960 i'm already left i'm already left i can't try to get left from the top my backswing 533 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:10,400 i've got to already be in position to get to work the downswing because then it goes 534 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,720 to what you said the shaman pattern thing okay well now now what you do right you get 535 00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:18,800 it you get you get your student up there okay great what do i do now yeah well now you go 536 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:26,600 that left foot stamps on the ground crushes ants um hold the ground with your foot like 537 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:31,240 that left foot like it drives into the ground yeah because when you start the downswing 538 00:44:31,240 --> 00:44:36,640 and you get that left foot of the ground the next part of that downswing is to start pressing 539 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:41,920 off the ground with the left leg and get the left hip to go backwards so yep utilizing 540 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:47,320 those right there right absolutely and that's where you generate your power and force from 541 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:51,600 right i mean that's correct that's the main key and i think a lot of people waste a lot 542 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:57,960 of energy on the top part like you were talking about arm swing swinging around and they're 543 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:05,600 leaving or leaving probably 90 of their power source behind aren't they oh it's it's uh 544 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,800 go try to hit it go try to go you know go to i mean i don't know if you're going to 545 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:15,560 do this but go shoot a free throw with your legs straight just dead straight and no no 546 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,160 knee flex no knee bend just go shoot it and see what happens see if you just can make 547 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:23,400 a free throw with your arms and good luck i bet you don't even make it to the basket 548 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:31,120 nope nope though you have to use the ground to pressure to push off um so yeah i think 549 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:37,680 that's just such a simple good analogy yeah you know for people to get um sort of serving 550 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,940 in tennis is a good one too when you're going to make a serve overhanded not underhanded 551 00:45:41,940 --> 00:45:47,320 but when you're going to make a serve in tennis uh you know you're going to press off the 552 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,040 ground you're going to throw the ball up and you're going to you're going to start with 553 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,920 your knees bent you're going to throw the ball up your legs are going to get straight 554 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:57,120 your arms are going to extend and you're going to hit down and do it absolutely yeah absolutely 555 00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,960 you see them press into that ground just before they jump up and that's that's the motion 556 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,160 that we're talking about right there is is that pressing down just before you're about 557 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:11,160 to to to jump up basically uh volleyball go watch go watch college girls volleyball and 558 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:16,920 see them serve they're off the they're jumping off the ground to get to the apex of the ball 559 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:23,000 when they're serving yeah yeah it's not it's not sean and tim's theory like you know yeah 560 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:27,960 this is this is the deal this is how you play is how you play sports it's how athletes move 561 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:33,640 right yeah that's how athletes move and you know sometimes we we overthink it you know 562 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,680 as golfers thinking that we're not very much athletes but you you need to be athletic you 563 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,520 need to kind of move those legs and you're going to have a little bit of a squat feeling 564 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:50,200 on that left side right right it's it's funny like it's you know golf is a sport where you 565 00:46:50,200 --> 00:47:00,200 where you can play it and don't have to be very athletic correct very very much like 566 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:07,400 a okay stop that when i say that but you can make contact hit the golf ball a certain distance 567 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:14,040 and kind of get it around probably shoot between 100 and 120 that's fine you might be able 568 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:19,080 to you might be able to chip and putt and shoot 100 but the levels that we're talking 569 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:23,720 about about trying to go from 190 i got hit a little further great you got to hit a little 570 00:47:23,720 --> 00:47:29,480 straighter too from 90 to 80 okay now i got to hit uh more straighter i probably maybe 571 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:34,000 i have enough distance but i gotta hit more straighter uh then 80 to 70 is like okay that's 572 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,680 a whole different i gotta get now i gotta gain 15 yards because i gotta play par fives 573 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:43,280 and you know three shots and not not four shots and all that stuff that is just um so 574 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:49,800 it's a funny sport because so much of so many people can play it which is why we love it 575 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:54,080 yeah so all we're trying to do is tell you hey we know you're not going to take you know 576 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,120 go listen to the podcast we know you're not going to necessarily go to the range and work 577 00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:01,800 on it for two hours but start thinking about some of these things when you warm it up in 578 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:06,280 front of the first tee what was t mac talking about oh yeah i gotta drag the club back i 579 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:11,120 get it my what's shawn talking about oh yeah i get my pressure back on the left side whatever 580 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:15,240 like whatever you whatever tidbits that you take from this yeah and you will start seeing 581 00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:19,280 you'll be like oh my gosh they were right you know whatever yeah and you know if you 582 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:23,840 do take it out to the range and something isn't working you know send us a question 583 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,720 right you know we'd love to give clarification if you go out to the range and you're working 584 00:48:27,720 --> 00:48:31,720 on something send us a little something or send us a video we'd love to see what you're 585 00:48:31,720 --> 00:48:36,520 working on and doing we'll shoot you something back and say hey you need to clean this up 586 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,840 or this is looking great pal and and thanks for the support you know that's what we're 587 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:48,200 here for exactly so well i want to thank all of our listeners today i think that was a 588 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:53,800 great subject today shawn learned about the attack angle low point pressure points spin 589 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:58,920 rate and all that good stuff so is there anything else that you'd like to add before we break 590 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:04,200 for today uh honestly i think i think we covered a lot i think we covered a lot i think you 591 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:08,880 should try to take this in pieces don't try to do all of it go work on pressure shift 592 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:13,760 first and then maybe work on attack angle next and then work on kind of low point next 593 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:18,320 and then you know from there kind of figure out how to follow through and finish but uh 594 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:23,880 yeah just you know it's supposed to be a fun game yeah enjoy it absolutely absolutely so 595 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:29,400 want to thank you all our listeners to for listening today if you found this uh you know 596 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,320 podcast useful or helpful please think about liking or subscribing it really does help 597 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:54,360 the channel uh and without further ado thank you guys have a good one