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Get ready to take off with Dynamic Golf.

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Alright everybody, welcome back to Dynamic Golf.

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I'm your co-host Tim McElvanagh.

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It win me today is Sean Klotz.

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Today Sean, we're going to talk about a few things.

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We're going to talk a little bit about TGL, which I think is a new exciting brand that's

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coming on out for golf.

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Also we'll have a little sneak peek into the PGA show.

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So welcome back listeners.

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Sean, take it away for us buddy.

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Uh, team, good to hear from you as always.

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Good to talk to our listeners.

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I'm excited about 2025.

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You know, you're always trying to reset your, reset yourself.

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Um, I think that's as I started doing some lessons indoors here in the facility at Oakley,

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um, you know, kind of, it's just such an easy way to kind of segue into the, into what the

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person is trying to do and improve on.

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So you just say, kind of say, Hey, what's one of your goals for 2025?

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So, um, I remember last year you were talking about trying to maybe increase some club head

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speed work on your own personal game type of thing.

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Um, is there anything specific that you're trying to do for 2025?

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I know you got the two little kids, so it's hard to play in tournaments and stuff, but

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well, it's funny.

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It's funny that you mentioned that.

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Cause I do remember last year, I was definitely into the speed.

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Uh, it was definitely trying to work on getting club head speed, but as time went on and family

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went on, uh, now I think my goal for 2025 is just to be able to play once a week.

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Okay.

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So, and I think a lot of our listeners can relate to that, you know, with busy schedules,

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uh, and, um, you know, time being compressed.

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I think they can understand that quite a bit.

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Well, it's, it's the life of a golf pro, you know, no matter what kind of, you know, how

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you've kind of, uh, position yourself, uh, doing more YouTube videos, trying to do, you

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know, obviously working with our podcast, um, while doing your maintaining your daily

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instruction to your people.

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And then also trying to be a dad and a wife or a dad and husband.

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And you know, there's just so many different things.

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And, uh, it's, it's part of why I enjoy being the PGA pro at a golf course, because it's

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just, every day is different.

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There's always something different that we're going to do.

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Um, you know, right now it's when I came back from vacation, it was okay, we got to somehow

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set up a simulator indoors from scratch.

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So it's, you know, imagination and inventiveness with what we do.

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And, um, and then now it's okay.

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Now I've got the, the facility kind of set up for it.

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So now you've got to advertise yourself and market yourself and get that word back out

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to the membership.

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And so that becomes a different hat.

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And then guess what?

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When the people actually will walk through the door, now you've got to do the golf lesson.

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Um, so you got to, you know, again, like I said, talk to them and Hey, what are your

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goals?

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Are you going to be Mrs. Smith there, Mr. Jones or whatever?

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And, uh, so it's just fun.

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I mean, I'm not in any way whining about it.

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I don't think you are either.

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It's just that sometimes like our personal goals kind of get, uh, put in the back, back

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burner because we're doing so many things to keep the food on the table and keep money

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coming through, you know?

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Absolutely.

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So, you know, I think a lot of our, you know, our listeners can relate to that.

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You know, sometimes golf kind of takes a, a, you know, a little sidetrack, but we do

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need to have our goals, you know, uh, trying to keep our, you know, even if we don't achieve

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them, at least having them on the board there, uh, and working towards them, I think always

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helps our game no matter how far along we get along in that, but we do, you know, have

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a goal, you know, even if it's a small goal, like, you know, what I'm trying to do is just

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accomplish playing one day, you know, one day a week.

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Uh, I think, uh, if you can kind of set yourself for that, it just helps your game as you further

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advance.

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And if, if that question was asked to me, so normally, you know, like I fancy myself

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as around like a four or five handicap golfer as a PGA guy, I know we're all supposed to

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be zero handicaps, but that's the people on tour.

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That's not, not necessarily guys who are working in the count or behind the counter, you know,

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40, 50 hours a week type of thing.

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Um, so my, it's funny, my goal probably this year is more about trying to score and, uh,

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trying to learn how to, you know, trying to learn how to navigate my way around this,

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this golf course here at Oakwood country club.

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Um, also trying to sustain kind of scoring.

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five rounds of golf.

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Um, and the, and again, the listeners will, as we talk, me and you talk, I think it's

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just so representative of what our listeners go through.

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Um, every round I played, I had a, I had a 30 and a 40.

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Like I had scores that you started with a three and started with a four.

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So, uh, you know, shoot 44, 35, the first round out.

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So you know, it's 79, a lot of people in the world would be happy, but you know, why can't

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you shoot 35 and why do you shoot 44?

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Gotcha.

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Um, you know, and, and it goes to some of the stuff we've talked about, like you shoot

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the 44, your first round back after not playing for eight weeks and I've got a new putter

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and I've got new irons that I haven't hit other than two times on the range.

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And I don't have the reps, right?

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I just don't have the reps in with those clubs or the confidence, right?

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I mean, you haven't, you haven't shot that, you know, 72 with that set of clubs where

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you're like, I'm ready to go and tack the course with that, right?

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Confidence is a big part of it too, with your new equipment.

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It's the, uh, to me, team, like a huge part of it is the, is the library of, of, of, uh,

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So what I mean by that is like a new set of irons, new shafts.

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still staying in the stiff world.

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But, but that gram weight is going to benefit me in the future, but to get used to the weight

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and kind of how the head comes through and how you have to kind of swing it a little

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bit, just be a little more patient with the club instead of trying to, so it, you know,

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you can go to the range and you can hit balls, which again, I will hit balls twice with them,

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but it doesn't replicate being on a golf course with a target, having to hit it over, over

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a bunker or over water, whatever.

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Um, and it literally showed in that round, like how that, how that changed with a score

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card in your hand.

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Remember, I mean, you know, with, you know, people forget about that.

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Just put a score card in your hands and that game becomes a lot, a lot tougher.

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Does this, does this happen to you?

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I'm gonna ask you this question.

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So, you know, like the first hole I played, and I mean, I'm not trying to micromanage

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this round, but I just think again, it's a good indicator for other people to listen

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to when we talk.

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Like this is what we, we go through the same thing that you guys go through as playing.

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So first, first hole, you know, again, kind of definitely rusty, hadn't played in eight

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weeks, whatever.

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bogey and I'd feel like team, like, I feel like if I make par on that first hole, I think

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my mindset changes pretty drastically in the round.

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Cause you feel like you're working from behind when you make your first bogey, double bogey

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on the first hole.

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I feel the same way, you know, for me, it's usually the standard double off the first

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hole and you just feel like you're, you're always chasing that whole front nine to get

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those two strokes back.

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And I, you know, I guess it just, and then you get another bogey along the way and you're

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looking at it, it's three or it's four over then.

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stay under 40 at this point.

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You know what I mean?

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If I can make a par or even a birdie on the first hole, I just feel like I'm gaining on

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the course and I'm off to a flying start.

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That's, that's funny you say that.

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Cause I actually, the next time I played that course, which was three days later, the next

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time I start on that course, I go par birdie par, and now I'm one under after three.

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Like, Oh, Oh, this could, this could be a good, good round of golf.

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Right here.

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So that, that, that round was the 38 42 round, right.

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Where I, where I was started off good.

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then number five is a difficult hole.

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one over and now your whole mindset changes and you start putting a little more pressure,

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a little more pressure on yourself.

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It's just, you know, we don't, we don't do what they talk about on the PGA tour.

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We don't do that enough, which is you talk to a PGA tour player, you hear them get interviewed

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after the end of the round.

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The thing that they talk about team, like I hear all the time is just taking it one

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shot at a time.

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Just playing one hole at a time.

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The old cliche they say, right?

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And then they're like, you know, I'm in front of me, can't worry about what's happening

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tomorrow.

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I'm just going to play good.

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And you know, hopefully that score will, will show up against the other player.

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Like they don't talk about if I break 66, I'm going to come in first.

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No, that's not how they approach it.

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So let me relate that to, to something that, you know, with that being said right there,

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I think a great point is that, you know, when you're out there and you're sick, right, or

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don't feel good and you're just one shot at a time, I just, I got to get through the next

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And then when you get done with the round, you find out that you, you shot a very good

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round and you just stayed in the moment the whole way.

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Have you ever noticed that as well?

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Like when you don't feel good or you're kind of out of it, or if you're in the zone, it's

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just, it's so much, it's just, there's not thinking ahead.

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It's not, I need to save this score or I could shoot this score.

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It's just the ball in front, hit ball, ball in front, hit ball.

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And you just keep repeating the process and somebody hands you a scorecard and says, Hey,

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your rounds done.

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And that's one of the hardest things for all of us to do is not, not play the, Oh, I make

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par on this hole.

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I'm going to shoot 37 or if I make bogey on this hole, I'm going to break 45 for the first

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time or right that whole game.

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We get so caught up in that instead of the, and again, you talk to good players and sometimes

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they don't know.

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Most of the time they don't know.

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A lot of times they, they're just kind of like oblivious to it.

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That's the really good, we, you know, we call them kind of like dumb golfers and you want

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to be kind of a dumb golfer.

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And that's not even a negative towards Darrell.

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But I mean, he's, he's just in the zone and he's not thinking about anything else other

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than golf.

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No, hit the ball down.

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I'm supposed to hit the ball down the fairway and I'm supposed to get the ball in the green.

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And that's how my head pro up here plays.

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He's just, just ironically consistent with, you know, ball striking is, you know, 14 to

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16 greens per rate per round.

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You know, he doesn't have the greatest short game I know of because he doesn't need it

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because he's, he gets more greens than I know of most tour players.

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Wasn't that like Jack Nicklaus, you know, didn't have the best short game, but when

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you're hitting fairways and greens, who really needs it?

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That's it.

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So yeah, there's just, there's a lot to be said about all that is just the last kind

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of point I'll make about the kind of the scoring world and the zone you're talking about is

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and that, that back nine, the 35, like you get in a rhythm and that's the, that's the

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term I like to use.

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You know, the, the rhythm of, and it's, to me, it goes down to the rhythm of your pre-shot

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routine.

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We've talked about that before is the same.

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It's a consistent, not deviating.

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Doesn't matter if you're one stroke down in a stroke play, but it doesn't matter if you're

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two holes down playing against the guy and you've got, you know, four holes to go.

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on the putting green on 17, 18, probably not going to break 90.

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Correct.

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That, that, that rhythm in the zone thing is kind of like the freedom, the heads kind

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of not in the way you're not in the way thinking about, Oh, do this.

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I'm going to know you're just ball target, ball target, hole target go.

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Yeah.

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I mean, usually for me, I've got either like some kind of conversation in my head, you

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know, or I've, I've got a melody or a song.

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And it just kind of takes me out.

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It frees me up.

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And it's very rare that I get in those moments.

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And I think that's why so many athletes try to chase that moment.

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But when you find that moment, it's kind of like, it's Zen, obviously it's just a Zen

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moment, but you know, once you snap out of that, it's, you're like, where the hell am

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I?

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What, what am I doing?

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You know, and then, then the mind starts taking over and then, you know, you can't even feel

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your hands in the club and you're like, Oh my God, there's a water that's 75 yards to

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the right at this point.

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You know what I mean?

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You just start thinking of all the bad things that could happen.

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So absolutely, absolutely.

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So yeah, I was going to say one of the best examples are, you know, uh, is the baseball

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pitcher trying to throw the no hitter, you know, and kind of how the guys on the, on

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the bench don't talk to them or don't even bring it up type of thing.

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And that's, that's really what you want as the golfer guys.

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You don't want somebody in your group to say, Oh boy, you're, you know, you're, you're seven

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over and you only got two holes left.

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Have you broken 80 before?

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You know, like you just don't want it.

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You want to just keep doing what you're doing to maintain that.

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So um, whatever those mental tricks are that you have to figure out on your own to make

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yourself, like you said, music is great rhythm, you know, keeping, just get out of the McCann

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X of it so much and keeping that free flow state is sometimes what you hear it's called.

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Yeah.

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Where you, you know, it's just, uh, it's the basic stuff, the less you stay, you know,

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the less you stay, you know, unless you get out of your way, the better, or the more you

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get out of the way, you're better.

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You know, the more you stay.

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Yeah.

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Just getting into that mental mindset where you're just like, you know, in beta zone,

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you know, you're just, you know, like everything's zoned out.

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You're just focused on a few things.

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There's not, you don't really hear a lot of things.

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Um, you know, at least for me that, that not that the game's going fast, but it seems like,

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Oh, I'm on hole 15.

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I just seemed like I was on hole six just a minute ago.

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You know, it's just, everything kind of flies by, but you know, as we get older and play

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less, those moments come less and less.

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It was more like a whole or two now, not a, not a whole round.

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Yeah.

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And that's, that's exactly what I thought when I was playing the four or five rounds

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because yeah, I had some thirties, but I also had some forties.

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The other component I'll bring up is the new putter, right?

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You got a new putter.

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It feels great on the showroom floor.

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It feels great on the new practice screen.

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It feels good.

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Like what putter did you get?

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Tell us, tell, tell everybody what you got.

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I mean, that's a big change for you.

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So Odyssey's got, um, I've kind of liked the Odyssey product for many years.

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They've kind of have some different variations to their faces.

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We'll see some new stuff coming up here at the PGA show, which is next week in Orlando.

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Really excited.

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Where a lot of the companies, yeah, we'll, we'll get to that in a second.

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Definitely.

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But this is a, it's a counterbalance putter.

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So it's basically like 38 inches long.

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Okay.

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Um, so you've seen like, uh, Ricky Fowler and Wyndham Clark were the two guys last year

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that we using this, that length of a putter and they had the long putter and I, and again,

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it's funny when you watch a tour of it now, how many different grips people are using

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on tour?

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Yes.

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Right.

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Like not, not the, obviously the rubber rubber is part of it, but just the placement of the

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hands.

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Did you say you were kind of doing claw?

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Yeah.

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Are you kind of a claw guy now or are you been?

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No, I'm back to conventional, uh, you know, back to conventional, but I'm sure once it

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goes south, I'll go back to the claw.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So I'm, I'm conventional grip, uh, but it's a 38 inch putter and I'm gripping it probably

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around 34, 35 inches.

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So I've got about four inches extended from where my hands are placed on the club above.

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So what it does for me, what it's helped me to do in the first two months of having the

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putter is, um, is just feel like it's a much more of that kind of pendulum shoulder motion

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type of thing where it's not handsy.

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Um, it's got a good face.

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It's called a, it's the white, white hot type of face.

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Is it the AI technology?

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I was going to say the AI one.

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Yeah.

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So that was last year.

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Me and you were down at, um, and reunion for rat when we're doing the Callaway.

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Yeah.

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I think it was reunion is a, is a great show that they provided for us.

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A lot of, a lot of knowledge on that one too.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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And, uh, and they got the different faces.

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They got the gold face, they got the red face, but the white face is kind of like their stock

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one we'll call it.

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Um, so I think, you know, again, as we talked to our listeners, like find it's got to look

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aesthetically good to you when you look down on it.

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So it's a, it's the Versa is the name of the actual head.

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Okay.

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Um, I always kind of liked that fang look, um, or the, the bigger mallet is what we call

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it.

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Um, this is that it's a Versa head and, um, it's got the white hot face.

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It's 38 inches.

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It's got a big grip.

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The grip is probably 21 inches long.

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Like it's really cause it's again, it's designed for either holding it against your left arm

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and bracing it.

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It's designed if you want to do a claw, if you want to reverse your hands, put it in

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a left hand low.

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So there's multiple ways that you can place your hands on the club.

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Just for me, what I've seen.

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So

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Have you done the arm bar thing at all?

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Have you tried that at all?

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Did you like that?

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If you tried that,

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I've, I've tried it, but, um, I, I don't feel like it, I feel like it's a little awkward

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on my left forearm.

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So it feels like it doesn't stay in place.

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Um, there's another grip out there by Odyssey, which is called a wrist lock grip, which is

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where essentially, if you think about the way grip is usually positioned on a club,

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it's actually kind of turned at a 90 degree angle.

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So it locks into your left palm kind of forearm in a better placement.

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Um, uh, you know, for whatever reason so far, and I was rolling this one great up here and

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like towards the end of October, November, and I probably one of the first putters have

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actually, you know, whatever the word is, it's going to sound arrogant, but like I actually

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purchased because we're lucky enough to get putters from some of these companies, but

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I've purchased this one, um, because I believed in it so much and the, the

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And that means something too.

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If a pro's going out and using their hard earned money to buy your product, that means

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they believe in it and they want that in the bag.

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You know?

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Right.

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Um, but where I was going with all this is as I was practicing with it before I did purchase

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it in October, November up here on the practice screen up at Oakley or the back practice screen,

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uh, cause I didn't have a chance to play with it too much because it got cold or whatever,

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but I just was, I mean, when I say go practice putting, you know, to me, it's probably making

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a hundred to 200 putts, you know, at a time.

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And then there are three and four footers, five footers, maybe.

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Um, and you, what I'm looking for team, I'm looking for to hit a five footer and, and

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see it go in and hear it go in.

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And again, going back to this, this story, like build the library in my head of good

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experiences with that club.

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Yes.

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So I transfer that to going down a floor to play golf six weeks later.

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And what I'm thinking about over the five footers is all those five footers that I made

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on the practice putting green at Oakley, not the five footer in front of me, just, I just

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made a bunch of these when I practice with it.

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And shockingly it translates into the ball going to the hole when you're actually playing

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memory recall, right?

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Memory recall, right?

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You know, bringing it, bringing those positive experiences to the putt that's at bear and,

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uh, you know, just not worrying about the pressure that comes with it, but the confidence

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of that you've made that a thousand times.

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I think I brought the story up before when we've talked and I don't care if I reiterate

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it 10 more times because it's such a great one, but Freddie couples masters, I think

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it was 92.

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I think that's what he won, but I'm pretty sure it was this year that year.

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He's got to hit a six iron, you know, um, onto the green to kind of to putt and kind

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of make the, make the, um, make par for that day or whatever it was.

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But it was a difficult shot in the reporter and Freddie, Freddie couples had a little

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Darrell Martin do them.

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Cause that makes sense.

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Like he had, right?

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He was just such an athletic figure and the game seemingly came very easy to him.

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Doesn't seem to me.

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He made the swings look repeatable and easy.

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Like he just rolled out of bed with that golf swing.

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Yeah, right.

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Exactly.

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But a reporter asked him like, you know, Hey, Mr. Couples, what were you thinking about

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on that hole?

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You know, you had a difficult shot.

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You had to go over the bunker and you had to cut it around and he just looked at the

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reporter just very matter of fact, like, do you know how many times I've hit six irons?

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Like do you know how many good six irons I've hit in my life?

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That's what I was thinking about.

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I wasn't worried about the bunker or the fact that I had to make this on there for two putt.

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Like I just thought about how many good six irons I've hit.

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And you know, so I think when, when me and you talk about, you know, to our listeners

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and like not preaching to them, but sort of like, Hey, if you want to be good at this

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game, you can't roll out of bed.

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Yeah.

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You know, you got to put the work in, you got to put the work in, which is any, any

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endeavor that we do in life.

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You can't be a good pianist unless you're playing the piano 10 hours a day, whatever.

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So yeah, the expectation of just going to a golf lesson and expecting to all of a sudden

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become better.

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Nope.

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That's not the way it works.

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No, it takes a lot of time, doesn't it?

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Yeah.

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You go to the golf lesson to get the plan to figure out what to work on.

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And then you go work on it.

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That's the, that's the, that's the reason to go to see a professional's advice because

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you know, you want to, you don't want to try to figure it out yourself because you can't

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see it.

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And what you think is important may not be important.

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And what you watch on YouTube, probably not applicable to you.

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Correct.

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So that's, that's, that's our little, you know, PSA golf lesson.

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Let me ask you a question.

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You're talking about that.

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You're going to work on your scoring for our audience.

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What are some things or some key things that you're going to try to focus in on, on scoring?

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Is it going to be short game putting is a certain combination of the two?

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Is there something that you're kind of focusing on for your scoring or numbers?

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Yeah.

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No, great, great question.

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Definitely.

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And this is the way that I would answer it for, this is the way you want to try to get

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again to break 90, to break 80, break six, 70.

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Hitting more greens and regulation.

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That's a simple, it's almost like the, let me just try to be more consistent conversation

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that we always talk about.

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Hitting greens and regulation, then that means that you got to lead back to what club am

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I going to hit off the tee box?

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Am I going to do, am I okay with hitting a three wood or even a seven wood off the tee,

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as opposed to just automatically pick and drive her up off the, you know, out of the

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bag.

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Cause I'm going to place myself in a better position statistically with a club that's

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shorter with more loft than I would with a club that's longer with less loft.

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So yeah, we, we have the luxury of not having to hit driver everywhere.

460
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,760
There's definitely some players that we work with that need to hit driver everywhere and

461
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,440
that's, that's fine.

462
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:44,800
So in kind of order, it would be, okay, I know when I see better players and when I've

463
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,960
played my best rounds, I've hit more greens and regulation.

464
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:53,480
So I already, you know, not arrogantly, I already believe that I'm one of the better

465
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:58,320
short game players that I know because I practice it and like it, but I need to hit more greens.

466
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:03,080
I don't need to keep putting pressure on myself by getting up and down.

467
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:10,600
I need to move my, my greens per average from 6.7 right now to ideally 10.

468
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,920
And then let's go to a tour level, which is around 12.

469
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,800
Again, be realistic with your expectations.

470
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:15,800
Yeah.

471
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,600
You know, tour tour players are, they're kind of going between 12 and 14.

472
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:24,720
Somebody's ridiculously scoring, you know, how they're scoring so well now.

473
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:31,040
But yeah, I would say that that'd be so in macro big picture, it's going to be, okay,

474
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,960
I need to hit more greens and regulation, which means I need to kind of think smart

475
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,960
a little smarter off the tee box.

476
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:43,000
Again, what mean you like, we're both really good inside of one 50.

477
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,520
So if you get the 400 yard golf hole, okay, I got hit the ball to 50.

478
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,680
If you got the three 80 golf hole, I need to hit the ball to 30.

479
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,600
If I got a 350 yard golf hole, I needed the ball 200.

480
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:58,160
I don't need to try to hit the ball to 60 with my driver every single time in those

481
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:04,360
circumstances, they need to get to one 50 and I'm going to have more luck from one 50

482
00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:08,880
in the center than I would from one 35 in the rough.

483
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,000
Gotcha.

484
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:15,460
So would you tell your students, would you say, um, with that being said that if I'm

485
00:25:15,460 --> 00:25:20,400
at the range, put the driver down and pick up the seven and eight iron and work harder

486
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,760
on that to make sure that your approach shots are where they need to be?

487
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:30,520
Yes, but it's, you know, it's, it's, uh, student specific.

488
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,760
If that makes sense, you know, like maybe they might need to work right.

489
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:39,920
Well, they might need to work on hitting three wood more off of the tee box and be comfortable

490
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,120
with hitting the three wood, which we hear that a lot from players, right?

491
00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:47,560
We hear that, uh, that, uh, they hit their three wood as far as their driver.

492
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:48,560
Yes.

493
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,100
You hear that studies have shown that they actually do because it has more loft, which

494
00:25:52,100 --> 00:25:55,640
gives them more carry, um, which gives them more distance.

495
00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:00,000
Um, you know, so yeah, I would highly suggest that for sure.

496
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,000
Right.

497
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,000
And, or it's the other way.

498
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,000
I'll say it's that way.

499
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,440
What you just described definitely.

500
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:09,720
Um, or it's the hit down on it already with driver, not correctly.

501
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,880
And they're doing that with a three wood and the balls coming out kind of like a lower

502
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,760
trajectory, but it's going straighter.

503
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,480
Um, and the ball might roll.

504
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,480
You might roll it.

505
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,840
Who, again, who cares if you carry it to 40 or roll it to 40.

506
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:27,160
If you got the ball out there, 240 yards and you're in the middle, nobody ever asks me,

507
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,800
you know, Oh boy, how far did you carry that drive?

508
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,600
No, it's all about how far did you hit it?

509
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:38,520
So you know, it is, I think you gotta be, you gotta be aware of what you need to work

510
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:39,520
on.

511
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,280
Um, how are you going to lower your scores?

512
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:47,040
Again, for some other players, it might be, they, they very, very possibly could go work

513
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,640
on their short game, chipping, putting bunker play.

514
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,480
I think that's kind of, I think that's one of those that I see when I play with, you

515
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:54,680
know, my friends or whatever.

516
00:26:54,680 --> 00:27:01,840
And they just, they just lose so many strokes and bunkers and it's, it's not about getting

517
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:06,560
it up and down all the time, but it's certainly about getting it out all the time onto the

518
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:07,560
green.

519
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:08,560
Yes.

520
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:13,240
Um, so when, when you play with the, the, the higher handicaps, right, that's the one

521
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,080
where you, that they, they, they're nervous about bunkers.

522
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,080
They're scared of bunkers.

523
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,080
They don't want to go in bunkers.

524
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,440
Yeah, well, I got to get better at my bunker play then.

525
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:23,440
Yeah.

526
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,800
Get, find yourself a bunker and a bucket of balls and get it out, figure it out.

527
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:33,840
You know, I would, that's one team act that I would tell my listeners, tell our listeners,

528
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:40,480
tell my students go watch YouTube because there's some pretty commonalities type of

529
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:41,720
things with bunker play.

530
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:46,200
You can't do certain things and you have to do other certain things to get the ball to

531
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,200
go out.

532
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:52,520
So yeah, there's different types of sand and there's different links of golf shots

533
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:57,880
and I get all that, but there's some certain things in a bunker you kind of, you can't,

534
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:58,880
you have to do.

535
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,200
You just can't, you can't hit a bunker shot with your weight on your right side.

536
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,080
That'd be that, you know, if the listener is asking, what are some of those things,

537
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,760
you just can't, you can't have your weight on your backside.

538
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,600
No matter what shot you have in the bunker, doesn't matter if it's front, back, middle,

539
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:17,600
nice lie, up lie, whatever it is, you're going to need some weight in that front side.

540
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:18,600
Yep.

541
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:19,600
Yep.

542
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:20,600
Yep.

543
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:21,600
You have to hit the sand first.

544
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:22,680
We're never hitting the ball.

545
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:28,880
Like it sounds like simple things, but no, these are, these are things to that, that

546
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:29,880
you should be aware of.

547
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,040
So I got to hit the sand first.

548
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:37,120
You know, whether you play a 56 or a 60, that's up to you.

549
00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:41,400
Whether you hit, you know, an inch behind the ball or six inches behind or, you know,

550
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,440
two inches behind the ball, whatever those are, those are kind of where we start getting

551
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,160
into distances and things like that.

552
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:51,480
But just, just go and, you know, again, it's not sexy.

553
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,520
It's not exciting to go do, but it's kind of fun.

554
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:59,240
I love going to bunkers and just kind of hitting bunker shots and, you know, imagination starts

555
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,440
to become a huge part of that right there.

556
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:02,440
Yes.

557
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,440
Yes.

558
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,840
You know, and you start to figure out how that club is utilized because you really have

559
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,120
to thump the sand.

560
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,680
You've got to give it a hit, you know?

561
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:13,120
And I see a lot of my students, they just, they, they get to the sand and they just stop.

562
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,560
And I'm like, what are we doing?

563
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,800
And I mean, if we were on the interstate, we'd haul ass up the on ramp and now you're

564
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:19,800
stopping.

565
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,160
I mean, keep going.

566
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,840
You know, that's, that's the big thing I see with a lot of beginners and some of my students

567
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,840
just stop in the sand.

568
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:27,840
That's a great point.

569
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,440
I was given a lesson this morning and I had two different lessons to two different people

570
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,440
and both ladies and they were both kind of different skill levels.

571
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:40,120
But the second lady who's kind of newer back into the game, you know, we talked about it

572
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,240
and you kind of kiddingly say it, but you know, she's not like, look, I don't know what

573
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,240
you've been doing.

574
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,660
I don't know what your friends have been telling you.

575
00:29:46,660 --> 00:29:49,120
You can't try to lift the ball off the ground.

576
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,220
We got to hit down into the golf ball to get the ball to go up.

577
00:29:52,220 --> 00:29:54,240
We're talking about a seven iron, eight iron.

578
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:59,020
It's the same concept in the bunker, which is again, my point, like a lot of people that

579
00:29:59,020 --> 00:30:03,720
are not good in bunkers try to lift the ball by, you know, helping letting the club.

580
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:04,720
Yeah.

581
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,400
The club releases past the hands now are getting a little more technical.

582
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,280
The club's trying to pass past the hands instead of hitting.

583
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,480
Like you said, thumping is a great term.

584
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:19,320
Again, my boss, Scott, who's just a really good bunker player loves practicing the bunker.

585
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,360
You can hear it from 10 yards away.

586
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:26,800
You can hear him hit a golf shot versus probably anybody else out here as far as bunker play.

587
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,400
So yeah, it always has that good thump to it.

588
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,600
I mean, it's just, you know, bam, you know, it's hit, you know, you're like, wow, that's,

589
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:34,680
you know, it's a great sound.

590
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,880
And when you pull it off, you're like, wow, I did that.

591
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:38,880
Yeah.

592
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:43,000
Um, the, the last part I'll say about like how to lower your scores.

593
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,000
Yeah.

594
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,080
I would say, and I've brought this up before too, but, um, again, these things are all

595
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,040
sets so good.

596
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:54,440
You got to be able to reset when you're on the golf course, you have to learn how to

597
00:30:54,440 --> 00:31:02,360
shoot 44, 35 or 42, 38 or find it, you know, somewhere in the middle of the round, hopefully

598
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,520
not after 44 shots.

599
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,920
Hopefully you figured out after two holes instead of, right?

600
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,560
Well I remember back in the day, and I, I still kind of use this for myself, but you

601
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,160
used to use this with the high school kids.

602
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,640
You put a line on the scorecard, you know, that's what I was going to bring up.

603
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:18,640
Yep.

604
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,640
You know, I thought that was always a great, a visual on your card.

605
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,240
It's something in your mind.

606
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,960
Um, and it just gives you, Hey, I've got to start from here.

607
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,240
Give myself a fresh start.

608
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,560
Forget about that in the past.

609
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,280
Uh, and let's move forward.

610
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:36,480
So, yeah, I know your daughters are watching all the Disney movies now and stuff, but,

611
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,880
uh, my girls are a little older than your girls, but the lion King, you know, that whole

612
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:46,320
like Hakuna Matata mentality of life of like, don't worry about it.

613
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,360
That monkey hits the lion on top of the head and says, what does it matter?

614
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:51,360
It doesn't matter.

615
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:52,360
It happened in the past.

616
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,360
You can't do anything about the double you just made.

617
00:31:54,360 --> 00:32:00,960
You can't, you feel bad, you're stupid, frustrated, but you have to somehow be able to reset,

618
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,920
change your mentality, change your mindset.

619
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:03,920
Okay.

620
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:04,920
I made double.

621
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:05,920
Great.

622
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,040
Now I'm going to start, now I'm going to make, I'm going to make my first par or I'm going

623
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,240
to make the first string of pars or whatever that is.

624
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,200
Or again, however you're, you know, what your scoring is.

625
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,640
If, okay, I got to make the first bogey, I got to make the first double.

626
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,440
I don't care whatever it is, but you got to start with one.

627
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,640
You can't make six bogeys unless, you know, and again, the players that we play with is

628
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,240
you can't make five birdies until you make the first birdie.

629
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,240
Correct.

630
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:32,560
You know, if that means you can't make the first bogey until you make the, you know,

631
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,800
if you're trying to make five bogeys in a row at your skill level, well, you got to

632
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:36,880
make one bogey in a row.

633
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:37,880
So absolutely.

634
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:38,880
Absolutely.

635
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:39,880
You got to start somewhere, right?

636
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,800
You got to turn, you got to find a corner and work your way out of it.

637
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:44,800
That's it.

638
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:45,800
That's it.

639
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:46,800
Yeah.

640
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,480
Don't, don't make these, don't make big numbers worse or don't make, you know, just don't

641
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:51,880
big numbers becomes a thing.

642
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,840
Again, that's with some of those rounds.

643
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,400
It's just, you know, you feel like you're almost speeding up.

644
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,400
That's a great term.

645
00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:59,400
Like you speed up in the middle of the hole.

646
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,400
You're like, ah, I just get to get out of the way.

647
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:02,960
I'm hitting the ball in the water.

648
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:03,960
I'm just going to chip it out.

649
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,560
I'm going to whatever I'm going to all these guys are putting.

650
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,400
I feel bad that I got to go hurry up.

651
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:09,400
Well guess what?

652
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,680
You just made triple and you just ruined your day.

653
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:12,680
Correct.

654
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,240
So, so yeah.

655
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,240
Yeah.

656
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,400
I definitely feel that when I'm on the course, that mind starts going real quickly.

657
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,800
Everything just seems to be going in fast motion and you're just, you know, you're

658
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,680
you're, you're hoping it slows down.

659
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,920
And I think just, you know, having some breathing exercises kind of helps you a little bit with

660
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:29,920
that.

661
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,720
Isn't it worse too, when you play like if me, you crumped and Jim cross went out and

662
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,160
played golf, we wouldn't, that wouldn't even happen to us.

663
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:45,640
But if I played as a single up and are out in Cocoa beach down, down there, kind of like

664
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:46,640
East part of the state.

665
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,360
And I felt, you know, you just feel a little awkward joining somebody.

666
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:51,360
Yeah.

667
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,280
It's like, you know, they didn't know each other, which was good.

668
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,240
But if you join it, if you're a single and you join a threesome and those guys have a

669
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,520
vibe and you don't or whatever that is.

670
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:05,920
And like, again, TMAC, like we're better than 90% of the golfers in the world.

671
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,400
And we're feeling this way.

672
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:08,400
Yes.

673
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:14,120
Like, you know, saying like, how can you imagine the 15, the 12 to 15 handicapped, the 25 handicapped,

674
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,720
the lady who's hasn't played golf almost on a golf course.

675
00:34:17,720 --> 00:34:24,720
And she feels intimidated to go join a group of people at a golf course.

676
00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:28,760
And you know, she doesn't hit a great off the first tee cause there's pressure already.

677
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,680
Then you go to the, now you're rushing.

678
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:35,360
Now all of a sudden you shoot 120 cause you're just, you've blown yourself up before he even

679
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,400
started and you couldn't wait to get off the golf course quick enough.

680
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,400
You know what I mean?

681
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,840
You're just rushing around that golf course.

682
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,400
You're like, let's get this over with.

683
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:47,680
And you forget that you're out there to enjoy a beautiful day, you know, hopefully a beautiful

684
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:48,680
day.

685
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,960
Hopefully it's not too bad, but you know, you're out there to enjoy, you know, nature,

686
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,880
your time with your friends.

687
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,200
And it just seems like, yeah, you're right.

688
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,880
If you get that really bad start, you're just, you can't wait to the 19th hole to get out

689
00:34:58,880 --> 00:34:59,880
of here.

690
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:00,880
Right.

691
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:01,880
Right.

692
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:02,880
Absolutely.

693
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,920
Dave, did you watch any of the TGL the last couple of weeks?

694
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:06,920
Sure did.

695
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,160
I've watched both weeks.

696
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,440
It's been very, very, very new and exciting.

697
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:17,680
I think, especially, you know, with the, with the tie that I have and that you had with

698
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:23,480
the simulators, you know, up there and down here, I think it's just the way of the future.

699
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,720
I think what it's going to be is, is a lot of the young kids are going to move towards

700
00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:28,880
towards playing, especially minorities.

701
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,240
I think it's a, it's an interesting event, right?

702
00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:37,400
It's not something same thing like me and you talk about when we go to, if you give

703
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:42,560
us 60 bucks, we're not going to, to top golf, like we're going to go play golf somewhere

704
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:43,560
in the real world.

705
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:44,560
Yes.

706
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,880
That's not what we love to do.

707
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,320
I can certainly understand the allure of it, the attraction of it.

708
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:57,120
I get it why it's, and I mean, I kind of let, you know, they're trying to get the team atmosphere,

709
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:02,720
which is, it's funny as you start getting ready for PGA junior league, you know, this

710
00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:05,120
spring I started putting that together.

711
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:10,280
Again, then, you know, one of the number one reasons why the kids play in, in junior league

712
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,400
is cause it's a team atmosphere, team orientation.

713
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:19,480
So as these guys are, as they're trying to, you know, let's face it, they're trying to

714
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:24,600
create, implement something that's not normally part of the golf world.

715
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:25,600
Yes.

716
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,160
The team atmosphere, right?

717
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,160
Yes.

718
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,260
And I think that's because I think what TGL and I think live even too, is they're trying

719
00:36:32,260 --> 00:36:34,800
to touch into that old college feeling, you know?

720
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:39,000
Like when you played college, playing with a team and stuff like that, you know, they're

721
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,320
trying to touch into that, that, that nostalgic feeling.

722
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:46,800
I think a lot of players like that team atmosphere, the rider cups, the president cups, you know,

723
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,320
playing for a team.

724
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,600
I think they like that.

725
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:55,840
And I think that's just becoming more popular now compared to what it was before.

726
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:56,840
Oh, absolutely.

727
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:03,440
I mean, it's, it's taking an individual sport and turning it into a team event is what they're

728
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:04,440
doing.

729
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:09,880
Uh, where all the other sports are essentially always based on team atmosphere.

730
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:15,360
You can have your standout individual players, Michael Jordan, LeBron James, Tom Brady, whatever

731
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,060
Jerry Rice, but they're, they're essentially team sports.

732
00:37:19,060 --> 00:37:21,320
This is going the opposite way.

733
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:27,260
Um, it's funny, like tennis is the other one that you would think would try to lean into

734
00:37:27,260 --> 00:37:28,260
this side of it.

735
00:37:28,260 --> 00:37:29,260
Yeah.

736
00:37:29,260 --> 00:37:32,160
I haven't really seen that happen because it is this, you know, it's such an individual

737
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,160
sport too.

738
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:39,480
Yeah, I don't know how you do that, but I mean, I know that I saw, uh, for LA, um, Serena

739
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,640
Williams I think is part owner of the LA golf club or something like that.

740
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,360
So she may be looking into how does this work?

741
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:52,040
How could I bring some kind of idea like what Tiger has into my sport and stuff like that?

742
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:56,360
So you may see a change like that in tennis in the next, you know, four to five years

743
00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:00,360
possibly with, uh, with her kind of studying how this model works.

744
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:01,800
And even if it does work, right?

745
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,400
I mean, why would, even if you have a good idea for tennis, let's see how this kind of

746
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,920
works and if they even, if it'll even go yet before you bring it up to the full speed,

747
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:10,920
maybe.

748
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:11,920
Absolutely.

749
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:12,920
Yeah.

750
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,280
The, uh, I know they, I don't know what it's, I'm not going to speak like I know what to

751
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:17,280
talk about.

752
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,800
I know there are a couple of tennis events that are sort of trying to be like team oriented,

753
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:26,240
but there's nothing like the rider cup, nothing like the president's cup, nothing like the

754
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:33,040
Solheim cup, like sport, you know, golf has done a decent job of trying to create that.

755
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:38,400
And I mean, Ryder cup is definitely the one that we know of and pay attention to.

756
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,560
Um, uh, so yeah, it was, you know, it's an interesting format.

757
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:54,040
I heard, um, so you had, uh, Tiger, Max Homa and Kevin Kisner and they're playing Justin

758
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,360
Rose, uh, Sargis, right?

759
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,800
Tahala, Tabatia or something.

760
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:00,800
Yeah.

761
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:07,360
And then, um, so the shot, it's funny, like what we, again, the insider view of this world

762
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,760
versus the, what some of our listeners look at it.

763
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,720
So the, the two things that really struck me that were funny during the part I watched

764
00:39:13,720 --> 00:39:18,720
on Tuesday night was obviously Kisner's shot out of the bunker that he bladed, hit into

765
00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:19,720
the stick.

766
00:39:19,720 --> 00:39:20,720
Yeah.

767
00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:21,720
Uh, just classic, right?

768
00:39:21,720 --> 00:39:29,440
And those guys, they were so real in their reaction to it that like he almost hit somebody

769
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,120
type of thing with what Tiger said.

770
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,120
Yeah.

771
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:37,920
And I don't know if that's, I guess I got to believe it's like, whatever you try to

772
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:43,360
develop manmade for bunker play is not the same as what we normally hit out of bunkers.

773
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:49,440
No, I mean, I, you know, there's just too much weathering that goes on on a bunker outside

774
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,480
compared to what you have on an indoor stadium, I think, you know what I mean?

775
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,840
I think, I like, I, you know, it looks pretty on TV.

776
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,640
I just don't know what the consistency of the sand really is.

777
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:00,640
Yeah.

778
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,000
Uh, and then he almost makes the next one.

779
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,960
Like the next one should have gotten in the tip.

780
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:05,960
It was amazing.

781
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:06,960
He just nipped the edge.

782
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,400
That was a beautiful shot too.

783
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:09,400
Wow.

784
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,720
That really would have been one of the best threes we've ever seen.

785
00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:13,160
That's what Tiger said too.

786
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:17,360
So there's that component to it that, okay, it's not really real.

787
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:22,280
You know, it's a little, it's definitely some type of, uh, manufactured golf that we're

788
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,280
looking at.

789
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:30,680
And the other one that I saw was the last hole was, um, Oma who first of all, the par

790
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,360
five, it was 729 yards, I think.

791
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:34,360
Yeah.

792
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,400
So that shows you that we're not in the real world.

793
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:43,200
Um, but he hits a second shot and he makes this kind of off the cuff comment where the

794
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:48,520
ball gets pulled to the left of the hole and it goes down into the canyon or whatever.

795
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,160
And he says, he's like, he's like, I didn't pull that.

796
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,160
And you know, and I, I pretty much believe him.

797
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,280
I pretty much think that, and I'm a track man guy.

798
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,400
I believe in all of it.

799
00:40:58,400 --> 00:40:59,400
I think it works.

800
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:04,560
It's, you know, it's just so, so well for everything that we're doing.

801
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:10,840
But, but I believe, I believe Max Holm has hit enough golf shots with his five iron to

802
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,880
know whether he pulled it eight yards left to the target or not.

803
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:15,880
Yeah.

804
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,840
So I don't know what that means for anybody.

805
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:23,240
It's just kind of a good indicator that, uh, you know, it's, it's, it's fun to watch.

806
00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:28,280
It's a good Tuesday night in the middle of January, but yeah, let's, let's get ready

807
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,000
for Augusta coming up and let's get ready for the, uh, some of the other tour events

808
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,000
that are real.

809
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,000
Absolutely.

810
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,000
Absolutely.

811
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,040
And you know, the next stop we've got, uh, the PGA show coming up right around the corner

812
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,040
for us.

813
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,080
Um, are you heading on up down here for the show at all or?

814
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:48,080
Yeah, it'd be different from what mean you have just, you know, had before in the past

815
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:52,000
because it was always in the middle of our season, uh, when I was in Florida, but now

816
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,440
it'll be again, kind of off season for us up here.

817
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,760
Uh, definitely more like go to go to demo day on Monday, on Tuesday.

818
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:04,000
I like kind of being able to see all the product and go hit some different shots with some

819
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,000
clubs.

820
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,040
Always a little weather dependent over there at orange County national of what's going

821
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,240
to happen with the wind and stuff.

822
00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:16,520
And then I still get the excitement on Wednesday and you know, Wednesday, Thursday, by Friday,

823
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:21,080
the vendors are so like, quote unquote, tired from being there that the energy is kind of

824
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,800
gone, but that energy is pretty solid on Wednesday and Thursday.

825
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:30,200
I like going down the, the, the small back row aisles, finding the new products.

826
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:31,200
Yeah.

827
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,920
Uh, I was talking to one of my members yesterday cause I gave him a lesson and he's like, you

828
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:36,920
going down?

829
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,960
I said, Mike, I still go all the time.

830
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:39,960
I still really enjoy it.

831
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,280
I said, I found, I found lab golf six years ago.

832
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:44,280
It was directed force.

833
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,440
You know, we talked about that.

834
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,800
Like that was a butter that was brought out six years ago and nobody knew what it was.

835
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,640
And it was on the back end of the, it was down by the vending machine.

836
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:54,640
Yeah.

837
00:42:54,640 --> 00:43:00,320
And now they've become this kind of, you know, new age products and they've got this new

838
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,320
technology.

839
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,240
No, they were doing this six years ago.

840
00:43:03,240 --> 00:43:09,000
We just had a small vendor and now it's directed force got bought by lab golf and you know,

841
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,320
better marketing, better advertising.

842
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:11,320
Yeah.

843
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,520
They had like a little ploy where you hung the putter in something and you swung it and

844
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,120
it was just completely balanced.

845
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,120
Wasn't it?

846
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,120
Am I wrong on that?

847
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,120
Wasn't there something like that?

848
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:21,120
Yeah.

849
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,680
Their, their deal was that always returned to face angle being square.

850
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:25,680
Okay.

851
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,080
That was the, that was that little, uh, like you said, that little ploy is a good term.

852
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:33,640
It was kind of their, you know, their, uh, marketing tool to show you that the ball,

853
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,480
the club face would always return to center.

854
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:43,880
Um, and it, and it does, and that's literally part of that, that, uh, kind of idea of the,

855
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:48,080
of the, uh, counterbalance putter that, that Odyssey has, you'll see Odyssey.

856
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:53,400
I've already kind of had the sneak peek of Odyssey's got a square to square putter, which

857
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:59,680
is the shaft is in the middle of the club head instead of, you know, on the front side

858
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:04,400
of call it, which is, yeah, that's kind of the lab lab golf design is that same thing.

859
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,760
If you put the shaft in the middle of the fate of the club head, uh, behind the club

860
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,680
head is the key, not parallel with the club head.

861
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:19,400
Then the moment of inertia, the, the toe and heel waiting, all that takes place, um, to

862
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:20,680
a much better degree.

863
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,340
And that's why you can, that's why you're starting to be able to get the feel of miss

864
00:44:24,340 --> 00:44:30,680
hitting cuts with these oversized ballots and getting better results.

865
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:31,680
Yeah.

866
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:32,680
Yeah.

867
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,880
These, these mallet putters are definitely the wave of the future.

868
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:39,920
They're giving you a lot more MOI and, and, uh, you know, return, you know, feel for

869
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,600
what it was compared 15, 20 years ago.

870
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,200
Yeah, that's it.

871
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,640
So yeah, I think we should, uh, we'll get together again next week.

872
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,680
We'll do one kind of after the show so we can kind of tell the listeners about what's

873
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,320
some of the new product that we saw.

874
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:53,320
Yeah.

875
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,520
Uh, kind of get them excited for 2025 and, uh, I think it's a good start.

876
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:01,040
I think it's a good, good session to get some people thinking about how to, you know, lower

877
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,440
their scores for 2025 and move on.

878
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,360
Are there any products that you're currently looking at there at the show or anything,

879
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,480
any, anything that's kind of catching your eye possibly that you're wanting to see there

880
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:11,480
at the show?

881
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:16,600
Um, I think, you know, part of it's being like industry specific or to the golf course

882
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,200
of things that we're looking for here, particularly at Oakley.

883
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,480
Um, so it's kind of part of it is, uh, honestly getting, we have a lot of people that walk

884
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:24,480
the course.

885
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,800
So we're looking at some different, uh, pole carts and that may not sound exciting, but

886
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:33,880
it is, it's still like this even technology and arts, you know, uh, I think there's some

887
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:34,880
of that.

888
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:39,360
I think there's, I always like to try to get to the hat brands and be able to kind of,

889
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,560
there's so much like, uh, individuality you can do with the hats now before you kind of

890
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:50,400
need to go, okay, I got 24 yellow, 24 blue and send them out to me and 144 shipments and

891
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,880
give me on May 1st and give me them on September 1st and we'll call it a day.

892
00:45:54,880 --> 00:46:00,400
But now you can really, you know, really customize for us here at Oakley where were the original

893
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:01,640
Ross golf course.

894
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,140
I like to incorporate that into the branding.

895
00:46:05,140 --> 00:46:08,440
I like to put the night, the 1898 there on the hat.

896
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,200
I like to put the little eight coin logo like, and just kind of think about some of those

897
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:13,200
different ways.

898
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,000
I'm kind of excited to like, I don't even know how to do all that.

899
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,080
I want to go talk to a couple of companies and say, Hey, here's what I want on that different

900
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,080
hats.

901
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:27,360
And I'd like to get sick, you know, six, six, six and six with four different color schemes.

902
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:28,600
And can we do that?

903
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:33,120
And you know, then, then those place in order in April and then let's do a different one

904
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,560
in June and then let's go for another one in August.

905
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:39,520
And you know, so the buying habits are different up here than they are down south.

906
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:40,520
Gotcha.

907
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:41,520
Absolutely.

908
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:42,520
Yeah.

909
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,560
And you know, obviously I always kind of, to me, I always, I'm going to walk by the

910
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:51,280
simulator types of places and see if, you know, not to say track man, but you know,

911
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:56,080
see if track man's got anything new and see if you can, uh, see if there's any new toys.

912
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,080
Yeah.

913
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,080
Yeah.

914
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,680
Clubs are, that's kind of, you know, it's not like the old guy here.

915
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:01,680
Clubs are clubs.

916
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,520
You know, every, every year, again, we were supposed to hit it 50 yards further.

917
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,160
We kept listening to our club reps.

918
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:07,160
Absolutely.

919
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:08,160
Yeah.

920
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,800
I should be hitting a thousand yards by now.

921
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:11,800
Exactly.

922
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:12,800
Exactly.

923
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:13,800
So yeah.

924
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:14,800
Well, good, man.

925
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:15,800
Good.

926
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,120
So want to thank everybody.

927
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:18,120
Thank all our listeners.

928
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:22,520
Uh, if you like this, uh, episode and, and, and like dynamic podcast, please think about

929
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:23,960
liking or subscribing to the channel.

930
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,240
It really does help.

931
00:47:25,240 --> 00:47:27,080
Uh, and, um, thank you.

932
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:28,400
Thank you, Sean.

933
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,400
Any last thoughts before we break?

934
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:31,400
Oh, great.

935
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:32,400
Great.

936
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:33,400
Uh, talking with you as always team.

937
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:37,160
I look forward to 2025 and, uh, just, just get out there guys.

938
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:41,720
I mean, do, do whatever you can in your garage and your backyard at the drive range.

939
00:47:41,720 --> 00:47:49,640
Um, you know, almost, almost the no practice or bad practices is okay, but you know, know

940
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,480
what you're doing when you're practicing, but, but go do it.

941
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:53,480
Yeah.

942
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,680
Get it, get a start, find a corner, work your way out.

943
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,640
And even if it's a wrong direction, at least you're moving in a direction, right?

944
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:00,640
Exactly.

945
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:01,640
There you go.

946
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:02,640
I like it.

947
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:03,640
So happy 2025 everybody.

948
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,640
Thank you and have a great day.

949
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:13,640
All right, my man.