1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,160 I love the topic for today. So you want to own a golf course? I love that 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,620 Yeah, I think it's a great, you know, just a little bit behind the scenes, but you know 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,620 Sit back and get ready to take off with dynamic golf 4 00:00:17,620 --> 00:00:23,620 Welcome back our dynamic golf listeners. I'm your co-host Tim McElvan and with me today is Sean Klotz today 5 00:00:23,620 --> 00:00:25,620 We've got a great subject Sean 6 00:00:25,620 --> 00:00:30,620 Why don't you enlighten us a little bit what we're gonna kind of talk about today and and and have a little discussion with 7 00:00:31,620 --> 00:00:37,140 Yeah, team. I could do good talk to you as always great to talk to our listeners from dynamic golf 8 00:00:37,940 --> 00:00:40,620 You know, we we've been talking about this for a while now 9 00:00:40,620 --> 00:00:44,620 We've been talking about this for a while now about the dynamic golf course and the dynamic golf course 10 00:00:44,620 --> 00:00:49,620 We've been talking about this for a while now about the dynamic golf course and the dynamic golf course 11 00:00:49,620 --> 00:00:53,620 We've been talking about this for a while now about the dynamic golf course and the dynamic golf course 12 00:00:53,620 --> 00:00:58,620 And the dynamic golf course is a great way to get your golf listeners from dynamic golf 13 00:00:58,620 --> 00:01:00,620 You know we 14 00:01:00,620 --> 00:01:06,620 We have so many different topics that we can talk about in the golf world. You know what Scottie Shuffler did over the weekend 15 00:01:06,620 --> 00:01:13,620 Yeah, it's just amazing as I mean, he just comes out again team act. He's got this new grip, which isn't really that new, right? 16 00:01:13,620 --> 00:01:20,180 Absolutely, and and he's winning by four or five strokes on the PJ tour, which is a is a pretty good win 17 00:01:20,940 --> 00:01:27,200 Against the top 20 in the field. I mean we're not talking about you know, you know playing against your local Muni 18 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:32,500 I mean we're talking about the top 20 in the in the field and he's beaten by four or five strokes with a new grip 19 00:01:33,060 --> 00:01:36,340 Top 20 in the world. Yeah top 20 in the world talk to the world 20 00:01:36,820 --> 00:01:38,860 like he said, he's not playing me you and 21 00:01:38,860 --> 00:01:45,340 And Ron Crump he's playing he's playing Justin Thomas and the boys and it's funny 22 00:01:45,340 --> 00:01:47,700 I mentioned that and this is even our topic which is great 23 00:01:47,700 --> 00:01:52,380 I'm glad we get into this a little bit because it's a good preamble, but I'm talking to my brother 24 00:01:52,380 --> 00:01:56,820 You know last night brothers PJ pro. He's been on the show a couple times. Yeah 25 00:01:57,340 --> 00:02:04,640 And what he's doing now T Mac is it reminded me of what Tiger did at the Pebble Beach in the US Open? 26 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:11,560 He won the US Open by 15 shots like they're all playing the same golf course. They're all playing the same tees 27 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,280 He's not playing further up Scotty Scheffler. Yeah, he's winning by 28 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,480 And you could see it on Saturday 29 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,600 I happen to watch just a little bit of Saturday in between football stuff and 30 00:02:21,920 --> 00:02:27,200 And you see him kind of creeping up a little bit right because he Justin Thomas was there and it just Thomas had the lead 31 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:32,080 And then I didn't even watch much of Sunday until last three holes because he just kind of know. Okay 32 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:38,280 Well, he's within one or two. He's probably gonna win and he's well, like you said one by six, maybe five 33 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:43,360 Yes, something like that. I mean, it's an impressive win against a field like that 34 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,800 I mean I was thinking you know when I first turned it on on the weekend 35 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,800 I think oh this could be a great one for a playoff 36 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:55,960 Yeah, you know one or two and he just I mean by the back nine. You're just watching, you know, dominance basically and and 37 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,680 I think we need to kind of take a moment and say 38 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:03,400 He could be you know in time if he keeps this stuff up. He could be one of the greats as well 39 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:08,200 Yeah, I mean he's his resume the last two years is ridiculous and I 40 00:03:08,920 --> 00:03:13,880 Certainly never thought I'd see somebody to dominate the tour like Tiger did now again 41 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:21,080 He still got a long way. Yeah, Tiger was on the was the number one player in the world for I maybe eight straight years or something 42 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,440 Some number of weeks was just incredible 43 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:31,240 So he's still got a way to go. He's kind of like Patrick Mahomes versus Tom Brady. He's still he's putting down some unbelievable 44 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:37,080 Benchmarks, but you know still go but it's just it's fun to see and I know 45 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:43,480 There's some credit not criticism. I mean, he's just you know, wow, he's too boring. Yeah, that's what we're all striving for 46 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:50,520 Absolutely. Absolutely boring golf is good golf. I mean we I want to play boring golf. That's our goal 47 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:55,000 We want to hit it in the middle of fairway. We want to hit the middle of the green or close to the green 48 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,800 And we want to chip cut it in and go and that's that's what we should 49 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,360 Strive for people like Seve, right? 50 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,040 Think about sort of the good short game people in the world Nicholson 51 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,520 Unbelievable short game didn't hit as many greens as Tiger did 52 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:13,880 Tiger, you know Tiger did a lot of greens also great short game, but you get my point like yeah 53 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,200 Short games great, but if you don't have to rely on short games 54 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:23,320 That's even better. Absolutely. I mean, I I think Scotty kind of reminds me a little bit like Jack Nicholson 55 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:27,640 And that Jack Nicholson is he's just fairways greens fairways greens 56 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,960 And I think a lot of people got used to many years of seeing, you know 57 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:37,000 Tiger Phil and and even Seve out in the trees making these spectacular shots that you know 58 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,960 Obviously our highlight reels all the time 59 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:44,840 But if you can just put it in the fairway and put it on the green and beat people by five 60 00:04:44,840 --> 00:04:50,280 That's the way to win. Yep. I think Bryson's figured that out a little bit lately. I mean he's 61 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,080 You know, he he is the 62 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,880 Just such a unique talent and and developed his talent over the last five years like 63 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:04,840 He can hit it so far. So he puts it in places that the golf course was the architect wasn't thinking about. Yeah 64 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,680 To be to be a spot for a landing area 65 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,400 So he's he's got you know, the 66 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:16,200 But he's also really become a good putter and and uh, you know the wedge shot he makes to 67 00:05:16,840 --> 00:05:20,680 The wedge shot out of the bunker he makes to win the u.s. Open this year against like 68 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:26,680 He that's you could stand there all day long with that bucket of balls and not hit that shot. So uh, 69 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:34,120 Yeah, it's uh, it's it's it's gonna be an exciting 2025 coming up for uh, I think some of these guys are 70 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,960 Xander and Justin. It's good to see Justin 71 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:42,120 Thomas play well and some of these guys, you know, Rory's Rory's still Rory. He's not going away 72 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,200 I would love you know, would love for both tours to be 73 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,320 Closer, you know playing in more events together 74 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:55,720 And we'll see how that all shakes out. But uh, yeah, it's it's there's just a lot of good golf in the world and you 75 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,120 You should watch them. You should watch the girls. You should watch the ladies play 76 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,480 See how they do it because it's so much more relatable to us. Yes 77 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:10,520 And uh, and and you know, i'm getting excited thinking about it going hit balls right now in the 38 degree weather here in massachusetts 78 00:06:10,840 --> 00:06:17,080 Absolutely, and then we've got the masters creeping right around the corner and everybody's getting into into into place for it 79 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,840 So I find it, you know, the turn of the year is always an exciting part 80 00:06:20,840 --> 00:06:23,960 You're waiting for the uh, was it the 18 t pebble beach? 81 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:30,040 You know in january it kind of gets your juices going and then you know, you're you're you're getting into it 82 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:35,320 Right bay hill and uh, all that stuff. So I know it's it's it's going to be exciting. Um, 83 00:06:36,840 --> 00:06:39,960 So switching the gears or whatever for the topic of the day 84 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,040 I think this is going to be a good one team back 85 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:47,160 This is almost one where you'd like to get some, you know, uh audience interaction and maybe we'll get some people to start 86 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:53,160 Send us some us some questions through youtube or our online platform type of thing. Um, I I 87 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,720 Bottom line, you know, we were talking about the social media 88 00:06:55,720 --> 00:07:00,280 So you want to own a golf course? That's that's the topic of the day. You want to own a golf course? 89 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,280 Meant to be a little bit sarcastic when we say it that way 90 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:12,360 Um, you know, I I know that we've both got some different stories of where we've been at where we're currently at what's currently happening 91 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,360 In our golf courses. Yeah 92 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:16,680 You know just 93 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,200 There's so many things that go into owning any business 94 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,160 No questions. I think it's a good one. I think it's a good one 95 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:27,160 So we don't go into owning any business. No question about it 96 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:32,120 But golf courses are unique because they're so 97 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:39,160 Predicated on weather. First of all, yes, you know, uh you own a business indoors. You're selling electronics 98 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,440 In a store, you don't have to worry about weather. Yeah 99 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:47,080 You know, so I think that's a big thing. I think there's you know employees 100 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:51,280 to get the right mix of employees, which is kind of the restaurant business model. 101 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:52,280 Yep. 102 00:07:52,280 --> 00:08:00,600 There's so much more technology now than there was 10 years ago, 15 years ago in our businesses. 103 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:01,600 Absolutely. 104 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,080 And it's developing all the time. 105 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:04,080 Yep. 106 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:05,080 Yep. 107 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:09,400 But whether it's more, you're kind of more specific to teaching. 108 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,080 I do teaching as well. 109 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,920 I do quite a bit of teaching, not as much as you, but during this winter time I was going 110 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:15,920 to. 111 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:20,920 So we got to be up to date on all the technology of that part of it. 112 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,720 Point of sale systems. 113 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:23,720 Yes. 114 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:30,520 You know, insurance, like there's just so many tentacles of owning a golf course that 115 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,440 I think it's an interesting topic for us to explore a little more. 116 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:34,440 Correct. 117 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,480 And I'm sure you've heard it from a member or buddy of yours that goes, man, if I own 118 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,960 this golf course, I would do X, X and X, right? 119 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,320 And you know, you just look at it and go, yeah, that, you know, the million dollars is going 120 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:47,580 to get you the golf course. 121 00:08:47,580 --> 00:08:51,320 And then the dream that you have is going to be the other two million that you're going 122 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:52,320 to need. 123 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,880 And then people just don't, don't concept. 124 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:59,320 They just think that once they own it, they'll just magically make it happen. 125 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,360 Money is going to roll in, right? 126 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:02,360 Yeah. 127 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:03,360 Yep. 128 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,240 Uh, the, the irrigation leak won't happen. 129 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:07,240 Correct. 130 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,040 Uh, weather's going to cooperate. 131 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:10,040 Right. 132 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:11,040 Yep. 133 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:16,440 And, uh, the carts aren't going to be damaged by the members or by the public players. 134 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,200 Like, yeah, the, uh, it's just, there's just so many factors. 135 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,120 I think, um, I think one of the things that, again, we want to keep this as like a broad 136 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,440 topic for kind of an insight into what we're going through, but at the same time, kind 137 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:33,080 of like, it's just a indicator of what can happen at any golf course in America. 138 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:34,280 Talk, talk to us. 139 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:38,680 I mean, Florida, Tampa, you know, you guys had some storms that came through in September 140 00:09:38,680 --> 00:09:39,680 and October. 141 00:09:39,680 --> 00:09:40,680 Yeah. 142 00:09:40,680 --> 00:09:44,800 And how, how did that, I mean, personally, how did that affect your teaching? 143 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:49,760 And then more big scale, how has that affected, uh, Silverado Golf and Country Club over the 144 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,760 last what, three months now? 145 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:52,760 Yeah. 146 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:53,760 Yeah. 147 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,880 So, um, we've had the unfortunate factor of having a couple of big storms, hurricanes 148 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:02,680 come through, uh, with, uh, a ton of rain, um, with the community building up what it 149 00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:03,680 is. 150 00:10:03,680 --> 00:10:10,240 Water's going in places that never has, uh, Silverado itself is still underwater somewhat. 151 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:15,440 Um, you know, the, the, this is December, this is December 9th. 152 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,000 That storm was in September. 153 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,000 Is that right? 154 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,040 Uh, it was in October. 155 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,440 I want to say the beginning of October. 156 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:26,400 Um, but to be honest with you, the course was already flooded prior to that, uh, with 157 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,920 a storm that came through there earlier and, and they were starting to make some, some 158 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:31,080 serious progress. 159 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:36,600 But when you get whatever it was, 16 inches or something like that, 24 hour span, you 160 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,000 know, there's no, there's no blueprint. 161 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,500 There's no, Hey, this is what we need to do. 162 00:10:42,500 --> 00:10:47,080 If we get this amount of rain, you know, there's, there's nothing to do there. 163 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:52,560 So Silverado itself is, is, um, I would have to say is probably right now written off as 164 00:10:52,560 --> 00:10:53,560 a big loss. 165 00:10:53,560 --> 00:11:00,240 They lost all their equipment, um, their carts, their, um, you know, all the equipment, their 166 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,240 tractors and everything like that. 167 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:08,360 Um, and that doesn't even count for the, uh, damage that was done to the greens and all 168 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,760 the other places where the water still lays. 169 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,880 Um, and is it operational now? 170 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,760 Is there people playing now or no? 171 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:20,360 No, there's, there's nobody playing, but they still have Brian out there, uh, keeping him 172 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:26,400 busy mowing, I think five or six or seven greens out there to kind of keep it possibly. 173 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:33,300 Um, but, uh, you know, the, the big thing for me is that, uh, I used to teach there 174 00:11:33,300 --> 00:11:34,300 on the driving range. 175 00:11:34,300 --> 00:11:38,560 People love to see their balls, you know, go through the air and all that. 176 00:11:38,560 --> 00:11:43,880 Um, and it has, it has significantly impacted my income. 177 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:49,120 Um, you know, not that, not that people don't want to learn at a studio, but there is a 178 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,440 lot of the, the old, I want to see, I want to hit a ball off grass. 179 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,560 I want to see it go in the air. 180 00:11:54,560 --> 00:11:55,840 And you know, I get that. 181 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:56,840 I really do. 182 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,280 There's, there's a reward of knowing that I hit it well and I got to see it go well 183 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,120 instead of into a screen. 184 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:07,840 Um, but it has been a big transition for me, um, to teach in a studio. 185 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,280 And now when I find myself out on a range, it is a quite different feeling. 186 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:15,560 Um, you know, cause you get used to all that technology that we talked about, you know, 187 00:12:15,560 --> 00:12:17,120 being in the studio. 188 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:24,140 Um, so it is definitely impacted me, but we're, we're, we're figuring out new ways to make 189 00:12:24,140 --> 00:12:25,140 income on it. 190 00:12:25,140 --> 00:12:26,140 That's for sure. 191 00:12:26,140 --> 00:12:27,140 Right. 192 00:12:27,140 --> 00:12:28,140 Right. 193 00:12:28,140 --> 00:12:31,400 Uh, I mean, so I'll start with the business side, then I'm going to go back to your personal 194 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:32,400 side. 195 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,440 So the business side is that, you know, I think we've talked about this a little bit 196 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:40,080 before, but I was the general manager and the head pro at Silverado for 13 years, basically 197 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:47,880 from 2008 to 2020, um, you know, worked for Mr. Smith and you worked with me for, well, 198 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,600 we worked together five years, maybe about five years there. 199 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:51,600 Yeah. 200 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:52,600 Yeah. 201 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,840 And, uh, you know, worked in the golf shop together and, uh, we, you know, did the daily, 202 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,560 daily things of running the Zephyrals open, running the different leagues throughout the 203 00:13:00,560 --> 00:13:05,200 winter time, you know, all the different parties we had, um, all the different rangers and 204 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:06,720 starters that worked there. 205 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,680 And it was just such a good family, right? 206 00:13:08,680 --> 00:13:11,160 I mean, that was the thing of that golf course. 207 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:12,160 It was a farmer's family. 208 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,720 You know, that's how I always thought of it was a farmer's family. 209 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,520 That's how I always thought about it with Brantley. 210 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:18,520 Yeah. 211 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,960 We didn't, didn't work on Easter, didn't work on Christmas. 212 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:26,600 Obviously didn't work on Christmas or Easter because that was the, uh, direction that Brantley's 213 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,680 wife, Susan said, Hey, this is the family time. 214 00:13:29,680 --> 00:13:30,680 Absolutely. 215 00:13:30,680 --> 00:13:34,120 And we really respected that and, you know, appreciated that your, your kids were, you 216 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:35,120 only had one at that time. 217 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,600 Like your kids were young, your family was young, growing. 218 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:38,600 Yeah. 219 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:42,080 My family was, you know, kind of getting, we were kind of in the middle of their ages 220 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:43,080 type of thing. 221 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:50,240 Um, so, but, you know, and again, we've talked to, you know, Brantley's past, uh, 2019, uh, 222 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:54,240 18, I think actually, sorry, it's 2018 is when Brantley passed. 223 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:55,240 Yes, sir. 224 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:56,720 Just to one of the pillars of the community. 225 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,440 I mean, bottom line, right? 226 00:13:58,440 --> 00:13:59,440 Absolutely. 227 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:06,880 And his brother, buddy, um, and they developed Silverado and the whole story is that when 228 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:12,280 the County came to, came to his dad, to Brantley's dad in like the mid eighties and said, Hey, 229 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,760 we're going to build this road in front of your property. 230 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:20,440 And they said, you can't, if you like, we've had this property since 1940, the water is 231 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,760 supposed to come from the high part of the County and it's supposed to go down through 232 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:28,440 the golf course or there wasn't any golf course at that point through this farm area. 233 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,560 The agricultural side. 234 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,520 And it's supposed to go out to Geiger road and down and keep going down towards Hillsborough 235 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:35,520 river. 236 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:36,520 Correct. 237 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:43,520 Um, and the County, you know, you're one small business owner versus the County who's looking 238 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,040 at development and you don't win. 239 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,040 No. 240 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,040 And right. 241 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:49,560 I mean, that's pretty much what happened. 242 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:55,040 And that, that road Geiger road acts as a dam for the water. 243 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:56,040 Yeah. 244 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,960 And that's the best way to describe it to people. 245 00:14:58,960 --> 00:14:59,960 Yep. 246 00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:05,760 And, and, and then they put Island Boulevard in there and then it really, I was, yeah, 247 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:06,760 exactly. 248 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:07,760 Island Boulevard. 249 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:08,760 You're right. 250 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:09,760 My bad. 251 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:10,760 I've got, but it was Geiger road at one point. 252 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,320 I mean, going down the side road, you're right. 253 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:13,320 I apologize. 254 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:19,520 Um, but yeah, so Island Boulevard gets, it just blocks up the, the, the water. 255 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:26,280 And it, it's funny because even when, you know, I worked there for, for, uh, who me 256 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:30,800 doy from, for two thought from 2000, 2003, when Brantley had sold the property, then 257 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,320 I come back and work for Brantley. 258 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:40,240 So we had been through, I'd been through two, we call them floods at silver Oaks, Silverado 259 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,800 during that 2000 to kind of 2020 timeframe. 260 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,680 Um, 19 front. 261 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:46,680 Yeah. 262 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,960 So nothing to what you guys have experienced over the last 10 weeks. 263 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:51,960 No, no. 264 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:53,760 I mean, I mean, not even close. 265 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:54,760 Yeah. 266 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,600 I mean, at this point, I think they're talking about, uh, the County coming in, uh, purchasing 267 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,400 it and turning it into a recreational park. 268 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,640 Oh my goodness. 269 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,000 So that's, that's the kind of rumors that I'm hearing. 270 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,320 I've heard retention area as well. 271 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:13,720 I've heard, uh, you know, so there, there's a lot, you know, but I really feel for the 272 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,720 homeowners, you know, um, 273 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:20,360 You know, they, they, they, they love that little golf course. 274 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,520 They supported that little golf course. 275 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,520 Um, and they, they, they bought into that community because they love that little golf 276 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:27,520 course. 277 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:35,640 Um, and it's a real shame to see that, that industry, um, that, that, that, that golf 278 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:36,640 course go. 279 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:41,800 Um, so it's, it's a real loss to the community and to the economy here for sure. 280 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,640 Oh, oh, I mean, that, and that was the, you know, again, getting back on track. 281 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:53,640 Back on topic, like our, I, uh, I, we had kind of put together a group of, uh, you know, 282 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,640 uh, uh, investors to purchase the golf course from Bradley. 283 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:02,280 Uh, Bradley, you know, we, me and Bradley had talked for 12 or 14 years about, you know, 284 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,800 and always kind of in a kidding fashion about trying to buy the golf course from him and 285 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,840 me and Jeff sweet superintendent, you know, we're gonna, we're gonna do that. 286 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,840 And, uh, it didn't work out for multiple reasons. 287 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,920 Um, Bradley always wanted too much. 288 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,640 She always thought it was worth a little more than I, than I thought it was. 289 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:22,960 And you know, I had the numbers, I had the P and L statement from the past 12, 15 years, 290 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:27,920 and I kind of knew what we could generate and you know, without the emotion part of 291 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,000 it, the price, the price type of thing. 292 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,640 Um, so, so it didn't work out and you know, it now retrospect, you're like, oh my gosh, 293 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:40,120 if that, if that had worked out, what would have, where would you be at now? 294 00:17:40,120 --> 00:17:41,120 Right. 295 00:17:41,120 --> 00:17:46,720 You'd probably be stuck with a, with a, with a mortgage of some sort and, uh, you know, 296 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:51,000 a piece of property that, you know, you, you, you don't know what you're going to be able 297 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,760 to do with it, which I'm sure the new owner is probably uncertain as well. 298 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:55,760 Wow. 299 00:17:55,760 --> 00:18:02,000 It's, it's so sad cause I, and now you come at it from the, from the employee side, from, 300 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:08,000 from your particular side, like for, you know, we generated a lot of, um, revenue money, 301 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,840 charity money for the people in that community through that golf course. 302 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,320 That's one of the things I look at. 303 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,640 And I, and I think you should kind of touch a little bit on that, how much the charity 304 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,760 dollars that, that you were able to generate. 305 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:25,440 I mean, you put a lot of functions together for that community, you know, from meals on 306 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,040 wheels to what was it? 307 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,600 The Thomas promise, the Thomas promise. 308 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,000 I mean, what a huge, yeah, right. 309 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,640 The Ruderman tournament, right. 310 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:38,960 Which was the children's, uh, hospital down in St. Pete, we gave money to, um, obviously 311 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:43,720 all the little, you know, softball league tournaments and church tournaments. 312 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,280 Um, just it was, I counted it, T-Mac. 313 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:51,680 So I was, did the, you know, I did the, I was sitting in church one day literally and 314 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,760 the pastor says, what are you going to do outside the four walls of this church to make 315 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,280 a difference in the world? 316 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:57,680 That's where that whole thing came from. 317 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,920 That's exactly, I'm not overstating that. 318 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:00,920 I'm telling you the truth. 319 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,600 That's exactly where that came from. 320 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:08,520 And, uh, I went to Brantley and I said, Hey, uh, I've got an idea on kind of a, you know, 321 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,160 we'll call it a business model for lack of a better term. 322 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,080 Um, I'd like to start giving back to the community. 323 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,640 And he was so on board with it. 324 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,640 Couldn't have done that without his right, without his blessing. 325 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:20,640 Yeah. 326 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,480 Um, going to show you who Susan and Brantley were. 327 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:28,560 And uh, yeah, I said, Hey, there's a way for the golf course to make money, but also there's 328 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:32,240 a way for us to be able to golf course, make money and, and give out some money throughout 329 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:33,240 the community. 330 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:39,320 Uh, Zephyrhills is one of the, that's partially why I drove there for 13 years from Tampa 331 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:44,160 from Brandon, because it's probably one of the most giving communities that I know of 332 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:45,160 in that area. 333 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,040 Um, they just take care of their own. 334 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,120 Um, all the businesses do. 335 00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:57,520 Um, Kevin Barr and, and, uh, made Thomas and John Kinsman and I, I'm going to leave out 336 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:58,920 17 different people. 337 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,200 So I don't want to keep going, but I mean, it's, it's the community was what it was. 338 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,120 It is what it is. 339 00:20:04,120 --> 00:20:08,480 Um, so yeah, so we, you know, the Ruderman, David Rudman tournament, which again, you 340 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,960 know, was a NASCAR driver that was a nephew of Brantley. 341 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:17,280 Um, so it was a hundred and $117,000 in the first two years that we did this each, each 342 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,560 year was around 115 grand. 343 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:24,360 And then Ruderman got big, the Ruderman tournament got big and that was like $38,000 in just 344 00:20:24,360 --> 00:20:25,360 the one fell swoop. 345 00:20:25,360 --> 00:20:31,240 And when he was like 2012, 2013, so yeah, where, where does, where you're right. 346 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:32,640 Where does meals on wheels go now? 347 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,400 Where does the, um, where did the churches go? 348 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,400 Where did the rotary go? 349 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:39,400 Right. 350 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:40,400 Yeah. 351 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,360 Rotary and chamber commerce and, uh, yeah. 352 00:20:44,360 --> 00:20:48,720 You know, and I'll be honest with you, they're, they're not, you know, I just, I haven't, 353 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,320 I haven't seen any of these, these scrambles or charity events. 354 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:57,480 And to be honest with you, the, the, the people that do kind of run it here in the community, 355 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:02,360 there's a little bit more greed than there was giving, let's put it that way. 356 00:21:02,360 --> 00:21:07,000 And that's, that's something that, you know, I, I kind of, you know, I really wish that 357 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,080 the community would kind of get back to a little bit. 358 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,640 Cause there's a lot of, a lot of people in this community that need our help, especially 359 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:13,640 after these storms. 360 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:14,640 That's for sure. 361 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:19,360 I was going to say, it just got exacerbated from what's happened over the last 10 weeks. 362 00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:20,360 I'm sure. 363 00:21:20,360 --> 00:21:21,360 So, um, no. 364 00:21:21,360 --> 00:21:27,080 And then personally, like you said, you know, one of, one of our best attributes as golf 365 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:32,280 pros, uh, PJ pros is, uh, is flexibility. 366 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:38,840 We have to be able to be flexible in our environment because you remember going to the education 367 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,920 classes team back when, when you're getting your like class, like level one, level two, 368 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:48,000 and they've got these nice little videos and doc, like videos of, well, what are you going 369 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,000 to do in this situation? 370 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:54,280 Mrs. Smith has, has broken the shaft on her club and she's playing in a tournament in 371 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,280 two hours. 372 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,240 How are you going to fix that situation? 373 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,640 Like it just sounds so, you know, perfect. 374 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:00,640 Absolutely. 375 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,320 How are you going to diffuse the situation? 376 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:03,320 How are you going to handle this? 377 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:08,600 I mean, I think we watched probably in the three, you know, sections that we had to do, 378 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:13,760 at least for me, 90% of it was how do you handle a situation where I really wish it 379 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,360 was a little bit more like, how do you run a golf club? 380 00:22:16,360 --> 00:22:18,360 Because I'm going to need to know that too. 381 00:22:18,360 --> 00:22:19,360 Yeah. 382 00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:20,360 Yeah. 383 00:22:20,360 --> 00:22:23,040 It doesn't happen that that's simply and succinctly. 384 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,260 No. 385 00:22:24,260 --> 00:22:28,820 But I thought you brought up a really good point earlier is that, you know, golf courses 386 00:22:28,820 --> 00:22:33,560 are one of those things that if you went to target or Walmart, you don't negotiate the 387 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:38,320 price or complain about the employees too much or say, Hey, that guy shouldn't be folding 388 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:39,740 a shirt in aisle too. 389 00:22:39,740 --> 00:22:46,760 But you get to a golf course and people, you know, they get a little opinionated, I guess 390 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:47,760 you could say. 391 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,760 Oh, wouldn't you agree with that? 392 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:50,760 You're being gentle. 393 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,080 You're being so nice. 394 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,080 You're being diplomatic. 395 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,240 Everybody's got an opinion. 396 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,240 They all know how to grow grass. 397 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,440 They all know what the best price is or the price that they should pay. 398 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,800 And it's not, you know, obviously it's not industry wide. 399 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:09,680 There's some golf courses that are super appreciative of everybody that works there and don't have 400 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:10,680 opinions. 401 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:16,960 But I don't know if I've been the one that I haven't heard somebody say to me, Hey, Sean, 402 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:17,960 you know what you should do? 403 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:18,960 Right? 404 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:19,960 Dot, dot, dot. 405 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,520 Like, yeah, it just doesn't matter. 406 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:23,520 Still in the blanks. 407 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,600 You know, yeah. 408 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:31,280 And he could be a super successful CEO of a, of a restaurant chain. 409 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,360 He could be somebody who can grow grass in his backyard. 410 00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:41,480 So he thinks he can grow grass on number seven and the green, you know, it, I see you listen 411 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:46,340 and it's part of our job to listen and you try to nod and then, you know, you definitely, 412 00:23:46,340 --> 00:23:53,720 there's just a, yeah, there's, there's certainly golf is challenging in that way of, of also 413 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:58,160 the negotiating, you know, haggling might be a better term of like, you know, you put 414 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,800 the price out there for the putter at one and nine. 415 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:01,800 What's my price? 416 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:02,800 Yeah. 417 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:03,800 Yeah. 418 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:04,800 Nope. 419 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:05,800 Nope. 420 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,640 Again, I don't go to target and say, Hey, I see that it's three 29 on this. 421 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:09,640 What can I pay for it? 422 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:10,640 Yeah. 423 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:11,640 What's the best deal you'll get? 424 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:12,640 Give me for this. 425 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,720 How about the price on the, on the, on there, you know, how about that? 426 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,840 You know, that is the best price. 427 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:23,120 Actually sir, we've already had this conversation prior to putting the price tag on the item. 428 00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:24,120 Yeah. 429 00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:26,760 So we've already figured that part out. 430 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,240 If you don't want it, it's no problem. 431 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:30,240 No hard feelings. 432 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,600 Cause then if you give them, you tell them it's the same price that, Oh, I'm going to 433 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:35,600 just lose. 434 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:36,600 Okay, great. 435 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:37,600 It's not emotional. 436 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:38,600 What did the walk away? 437 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:39,600 It's okay. 438 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:40,600 Yeah. 439 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:41,600 You know, you can walk away. 440 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,120 I mean, it's just, you know, everybody wants to negotiate. 441 00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:47,880 Everybody thinks they get a separate deal as you think and stuff like that. 442 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:52,440 And there's just that emotional attachment to a golf course, you know, compared to your 443 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,320 local, you know, whatever store it is. 444 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:56,320 So, yeah. 445 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:00,520 So you got to pivot now you got to pivot to, um, and I, and I totally understand what you're 446 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:05,400 saying, especially cause I taught outside for 15 years and then I taught, you know, 447 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:11,640 exclusively inside for three years and I'm teaching kind of both and it's, it's, I would, 448 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:16,680 you know, whatever, not advice to you, to you Mac is just the advice is that, uh, or 449 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:17,680 the thought process. 450 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,480 They're going to go, Oh, now I sound like the customer. 451 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,480 No, that's great. 452 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:21,480 Hey, here's what I would do. 453 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:26,040 But I do have a little experience in this world. 454 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:30,480 Um, you know, the, the technology is being embraced by everybody. 455 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:35,320 Meaning the more people that, you know, they, they want their numbers, they want their video, 456 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:36,320 they want their things. 457 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,400 Um, they want to see what they're doing. 458 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:43,200 And if you can, if you can become the expert, which you already are, you already are the 459 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,240 expert in the field. 460 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:50,080 They're going to come to you anyways, and you just embrace the fact that when they say 461 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,240 to you, well, I want to see what it does outside. 462 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:53,240 Okay. 463 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,240 Totally understand that. 464 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,240 No problem. 465 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,040 We can go to the range where it's a $10 bucket, or we can use the $20,000 piece of equipment 466 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,400 that they use on tour to evaluate your swing. 467 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:07,680 So you tell me which one you think is going to be more effective and then we'll go from 468 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:08,680 there. 469 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:09,680 But 470 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,960 And the big thing is, is, is explaining what the numbers are to our students. 471 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:19,040 You know, they look at all these things and it, it probably looks like a, a Mac truck, 472 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,320 you know, dashboard to them. 473 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,520 And they're like, what are all these buttons, you know, and then you explain, you know, 474 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,280 there's out of the 20 that you see there, there's probably three or four that we're 475 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:29,480 really zoning in on. 476 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,160 And once they do that, they start to have an understanding and stuff like that. 477 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,160 So 478 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,160 So, so, so funny. 479 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,440 You say that what I've done to you Mac in the past three months, I've been starting 480 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,320 to teach a lot more indoors because of the weather obviously up here. 481 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,320 Yeah. 482 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,200 I literally, and I, something I didn't do until the last three months, but at my studio, 483 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,720 at the store, I would put up my kind of eight D numbers. 484 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,920 Cause I thought I wanted to really look smart and intelligent to people and explain what 485 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,640 launch angle was and explain what ball speed is. 486 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:58,640 Dynamic loft. 487 00:26:58,640 --> 00:26:59,640 Yeah. 488 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,760 If you come in for a lesson now to you Mac, I might put four numbers up. 489 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:13,480 It might be a club path, face angle, carry distance, and maybe, maybe, um, ball speed, 490 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:18,240 but I'm trying to get people to focus on the four most important things instead of having 491 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,720 the other numbers up there. 492 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:20,720 Yeah. 493 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,400 And if you get somebody, you know, you get somebody who's okay, well the height is low. 494 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,600 Well, then you can go back and click the little height thing. 495 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,680 It still records all the numbers for everything. 496 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:28,680 Yeah. 497 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:29,680 But you just don't confuse them. 498 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:30,680 Does that make sense? 499 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:31,680 Yeah. 500 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,280 I use this angle of attack a lot. 501 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,400 Um, you know, that that's the one that I kind of use the most because once you explain to 502 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,480 people that you got to hit down with irons and up with a driver, it's like a light bulb 503 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:43,480 goes off. 504 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:44,480 Yeah. 505 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,720 So, and again, we all do different. 506 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:52,320 I, I use low point more than attack angle because low point is a physical number of 507 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:58,480 in front of or behind measured in inches, easier for them to see it on the ground rather 508 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,480 than trying to feel what negative two down feels like. 509 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:03,480 Yeah. 510 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,760 But just, just different again, you know, just different. 511 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,120 So yeah, I know we're getting a little off topic, but I think it's all part of the same 512 00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:10,120 topic. 513 00:28:10,120 --> 00:28:14,200 We're all talking about golf courses better and you pivoting just a little bit. 514 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,360 I wanted to ask you a question. 515 00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:16,480 I was very interested in this. 516 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,720 I was on the Facebook page there at Oakley country club and it seems like you guys had 517 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,300 a little excitement, a little fire. 518 00:28:22,300 --> 00:28:23,300 What happened over there? 519 00:28:23,300 --> 00:28:25,560 What's going on at my country club? 520 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:34,360 Wow, I mean, again, 1895, you know, 1898 was when this place was incorporated in 1895 and 521 00:28:34,360 --> 00:28:42,480 the date is 1898 as far as when it was started and, um, Donald Ross being there in 1900 and 522 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:43,800 there's a ton of history here at Oakley. 523 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,680 I mean, it's just the way it is, you know, first, first Donald Ross design. 524 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,560 So Friday morning around 4am, again, you want to own a golf course. 525 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:52,560 Yeah, here you go. 526 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,680 4am just like they do at 2pm in the afternoon. 527 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,600 You know, it always happened between nine and five. 528 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,160 That's not the way things happen. 529 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:05,880 Um, typically I would say also the other thing I'd say about owning the golf courses, I don't 530 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:10,960 think I've ever had a computer problem or something bad happened to me between 8am and 531 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,480 5pm on a Monday through Friday. 532 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:14,480 Right? 533 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:15,480 Right. 534 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:16,480 All of our stuff seems to break. 535 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,240 The Greensmore goes out at Saturday morning when the guy's trying to get ready for the 536 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,280 144 player golf tournament, whatever. 537 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,280 Yeah. 538 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,280 It's not the way we work. 539 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:25,840 It's not the way our world goes. 540 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:33,000 So unfortunately, capital U on Friday around 4am, uh, somewhere in that ballpark, there 541 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,760 was a electrical fire in one of the closets upstairs at Oakley country club. 542 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,160 Uh, that's all I know. 543 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,520 I don't want to, I don't really know anything else. 544 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,840 I just know that there was some type of fire that was started at, uh, from this particular 545 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:46,840 room. 546 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:53,640 Uh, thankfully the suppression, the sprinkler suppression system worked perfectly to, to 547 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,880 get rid of the fire or to stop the fire. 548 00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:02,000 Um, or at least minimize it until the firefighters got there from the two neighboring towns. 549 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,000 Right. 550 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:08,520 And they did their job perfectly, which is to get rid of the fire, stop the fire. 551 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:19,000 So when you, the, the, the fire damage, minimal, the water damage and the rest of it is pretty 552 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,440 major, pretty major. 553 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,900 So the way that water works is it goes to the bottom. 554 00:30:24,900 --> 00:30:29,960 So water starts at the third floor and then it goes down through the ceiling to the second 555 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,080 floor and then it goes down the ceiling to the first floor. 556 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,080 Yeah. 557 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:40,400 So that's essentially a half of the building of this country club that was built six, seven 558 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:41,400 years ago. 559 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,920 Uh, that's inoperable and can't occupy it. 560 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:52,800 And again, for purposes of today, we'll just go with the idea that, uh, you've got a December, 561 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:58,880 you got a December 7th, December 6th, uh, you've got, I mean, hundreds of thousands 562 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:03,840 of dollars of revenue coming through the next three weeks with Christmas parties. 563 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:09,680 You've got, you know, you've planned your office Christmas party at Oakley country club 564 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:14,120 for months to have your employees come in and have a nice time. 565 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,880 Um, you have a gala, gala, whatever that is. 566 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:23,800 Um, I believe it's a, I don't know if it's 125 years in the making. 567 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:29,960 All I know is that typically 300 members show up every December for a event where they give 568 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,240 out the year end prizes. 569 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:39,200 Um, that's arguably, you know, a hundred and a hundred thousand dollar a night for the 570 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,200 club. 571 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,200 It's all gone. 572 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,160 Like it's all, there's no, you can't, you can't operate. 573 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,160 You're done. 574 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,160 Yeah. 575 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:51,920 Um, so we, you know, the superintendent on Friday morning, we went and kind of toward 576 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:56,840 the place right after the fire, like around 10 o'clock and him and his crew, luckily, 577 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,220 cause they get there at 5 a.m. 578 00:31:58,220 --> 00:32:03,680 They were able to get into the building after the firefighters were there and they were 579 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,840 able to recover. 580 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,400 I mean, historical documents going back to 1903. 581 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:14,680 Um, you know, a lot of Ross library type of stuff, books and stuff like that. 582 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:15,680 I'm sure, right? 583 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:22,520 Pictures, books, uh, papers that are all, yeah, they're all, when you go into the big 584 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:29,440 rotunda ballroom area, they're all on different tables, floors, seats right now being literally 585 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,400 dried out and aired out. 586 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:37,040 Um, cause the water got, so it's a sad, you know, again, you want to own a golf course. 587 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:43,800 You don't expect, uh, uh, I mean, a monumental, uh, I don't even know how to describe that 588 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,280 flood that happened up at, uh, down at Silverado. 589 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,280 Like you said, 16 inches of rain in 12 hours. 590 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,760 An act of God, I guess. 591 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:52,760 Yeah. 592 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:53,760 Yeah. 593 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:54,760 Never happened before. 594 00:32:54,760 --> 00:33:00,520 Uh, and then you got the, uh, you got this, you know, a fire that just happened and it's 595 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:08,120 just stuff happens in the world and insurance is great and that will probably take care 596 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:15,560 of this, but how do you take care of the staff members who are down there, uh, expecting 597 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,400 to work currently for the next few weeks before Christmas. 598 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,680 Um, depending on that for the holidays, right? 599 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,120 I mean, a lot of employees depending on that, right? 600 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,680 That's what I was going to say, team back there. 601 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,400 They're compensated for their hours that they work. 602 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,680 Um, that's how they normally, you know, pay their bills. 603 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,640 And then Oakley is one of the most giving, generous clubs I've ever been at. 604 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:43,680 So when you and me and our wives go down to the pub for dinner, you know, on a Tuesday 605 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:48,680 night, we're probably going to give the server an extra 50 or whatever for, Hey, thanks for 606 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,480 your help all year. 607 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:51,480 Yeah. 608 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:52,800 Uh, it's all gone. 609 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:53,800 It's all gone. 610 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:59,040 Um, so there, you know, I, I'm not trying to be dire about it, but it's, it's the reality 611 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:06,000 of what it is to own a business, own a golf course, um, own your facility to, to think 612 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,720 about it 24 seven. 613 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:08,720 Yeah. 614 00:34:08,720 --> 00:34:10,640 There's no off time when you don't think about your facility. 615 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:11,640 Yeah. 616 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:19,040 I mean, for me at my golf store, um, you are, you know, and you're, you're just, um, we'll 617 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:24,720 pivot we'll change, you know, it'll, it'll, it'll become good in the future, but right 618 00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:28,040 now they're talking about, I mean, excessive damage. 619 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,360 I don't want to give a number and excessive timeframe for the golf course being closed. 620 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:37,260 I don't want to give a number cause we don't know, or we just don't know, but, um, yeah. 621 00:34:37,260 --> 00:34:40,280 So I think it's been a great topic for the people here inside. 622 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,680 I'd like to have one more question with you. 623 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:47,360 How has this affected you teaching and moving forward with this, this fire? 624 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,560 What has this done for your brand and your business there? 625 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:51,560 Yeah. 626 00:34:51,560 --> 00:35:00,720 So, um, in a great way, uh, basically around, um, November 15th, I had started a program 627 00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:04,360 called the gift program, which was game improvement focused training. 628 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,800 That was my little acronym. 629 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:06,800 I love it. 630 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,000 Game improvement, game improvement focused training. 631 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:15,480 And um, it was a five lesson package and the mandate was that you would come in for a golf 632 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:22,120 lesson and then you, I would give you, um, in homework to go do in between the lessons, 633 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,960 um, specifically geared towards track man. 634 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,480 So you're going to work on attack angle. 635 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,160 Like you talked about, we're going to work on club head speed, whatever. 636 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,520 And then you're going to come back for your second lesson, probably two weeks later. 637 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,360 And then you're going to keep that rotation for around a 10 week period. 638 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,200 Um, so in a great way, I sold 50 of those packages. 639 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,680 So I had people that were great. 640 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:49,560 I've been giving, yeah, I've been giving 10 to 15 lessons a week in the past four to five 641 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,520 weeks and track man's shut down right now. 642 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:54,520 It's closed. 643 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:55,520 Yeah. 644 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,280 Was the track man ruined at all or anything like that? 645 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,280 Or was it safe? 646 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,920 No, no, luckily it was on that side of the road or that side of the building that was 647 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:03,920 not affected. 648 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:04,920 Okay. 649 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,640 So that whole room is fine, but you still need the CEO. 650 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,640 You still need the certificate of occupancy to get back in the building. 651 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:11,640 Yeah. 652 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:12,640 Right. 653 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:13,640 Again, this just happened Friday. 654 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:14,640 This is Monday. 655 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,520 Like there's, there's going to be some things that are going to take place hopefully over 656 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,960 the next two to three months that'll kind of rectify this. 657 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:25,360 Um, and again, like Pete talked about T-MAC, that's one of the best things we do is we 658 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:26,360 pivot. 659 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:27,800 So we were flexible. 660 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:33,360 So Scott Johnson, the head pro myself, we talked about, well, we can, once those holidays 661 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:41,280 are done inside the pro shop, we can put the screen up inside the pro shop, move the displays 662 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:48,080 and put track man in the back and kind of make, we can turn it into a hitting studio 663 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:53,760 and at least give people the opportunity to come in and practice and, you know, take some 664 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,960 instruction and kind of get ready for the season. 665 00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:00,560 Cause again, I think that's, I keep going back to that, but that's what we do as, as 666 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:01,560 PGD members. 667 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,880 We are, uh, you have to be, you can't be black and white. 668 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:06,880 Absolutely. 669 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,800 You got to, as you said, you got to learn how to pivot. 670 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:14,840 I think, um, a lot of people don't understand or don't think of us as business people, but 671 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:20,240 you know, in the world of business, if I had a competitor or a company go down, these companies 672 00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:25,320 have to turn and pivot and turn it a different product or a different, you know, resource. 673 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,720 And that's what we do. 674 00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:28,940 You know, we find a problem, we hit it. 675 00:37:28,940 --> 00:37:35,960 And then we have to turn that into, you know, making lemonade out of lemons. 676 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:41,960 The reason you're a good instructor is because you don't give the student one way to grip 677 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:47,400 the golf club, one way to make a backswing, one way to make a downswing. 678 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:53,880 You have to, as an instructor, be able to give maybe the same message five different 679 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:54,880 ways. 680 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,680 And one of those ways is going to click with that particular student. 681 00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:58,680 Yes. 682 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,600 And that's really just a microcosm of what we do in our daily lives of like, if you just 683 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:07,200 taught, Hey, I've got to teach Ben Hogan's grip and you can't move on until you get master 684 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:08,200 Ben Hogan's grip. 685 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,200 No good. 686 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:14,360 You know, if you only took the club back a certain way, if you only made a pivot, obviously 687 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:15,360 there's parameters. 688 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,600 Obviously we want to make sure we start our downswing with our lower body or whatever 689 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:19,600 the thing is. 690 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:24,920 Like there's parameters, but there's different ways to explain that to people. 691 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:32,160 And like I said, microcosm of our daily life and a golf pro world of, you know, Mr. and 692 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:37,480 Mrs. Jones walk up and the first tee is full and it's 9 15 in the morning. 693 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,440 And Mr. Jones, would you like to be on number 10? 694 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:41,760 Well, yeah, that'd be great. 695 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:42,760 Can I get started? 696 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:43,760 Yep. 697 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:44,760 Absolutely. 698 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:45,760 Get started down there. 699 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,000 We've got an 11 15 that's available on the front nine. 700 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,760 So when you make the turn at 11 15 golf course will be clear. 701 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,640 Like it sounds so simple, but it's also not simple. 702 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,760 It's those things that, you know, make the experience of the, of the, whether it's the 703 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,920 customer in the public setting or the member of the private setting, make them enjoy their 704 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:02,920 day. 705 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:07,080 You've got to make looking, you gotta, you gotta make it look like thinking outside the 706 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,080 box is a normal reality, right? 707 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:14,040 You know, you've got to, you've got to have that and people just, okay, that's great. 708 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:19,120 And you know what goes behind the scenes to make that happen, but you never let them see 709 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,120 that, right? 710 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,240 It's like a, like a vaudeville show almost. 711 00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:23,240 Yeah. 712 00:39:23,240 --> 00:39:27,560 And then you're, you're, once you send, you know, typically this is done prior to, but 713 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:32,880 you kind of call superintendent and say, Hey, can I, can I get somebody up the back night 714 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,120 at nine o'clock and very sheepishly too. 715 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:37,120 Yeah. 716 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,920 So, I mean, again, there's a team that like, it's a, it's a teamwork of a different, a 717 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,400 lot of different people working together. 718 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,400 Yes. 719 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:44,400 It's a superintendent on board. 720 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:45,400 Oh yeah. 721 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,040 My guy's almost done finishing up cutting hole number 11. 722 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,280 Just give him five more minutes. 723 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:50,280 Yep. 724 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,280 Absolutely. 725 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,280 Great. 726 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:57,240 So go, go hit a couple of pots on the practice screen, head down to the first tee or 10th 727 00:39:57,240 --> 00:40:00,120 tee by nine 15, you'll be perfect. 728 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,520 And I think you bring up a great point at least for if you're going to own a golf course 729 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:09,480 or run a golf course is I think in one word is communication right there, right? 730 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,240 Communicating with your staff, communicating with your members, um, and communicating with 731 00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:15,520 your shareholders or owner, you know, right? 732 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:16,520 It's huge. 733 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:17,520 Yep. 734 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:18,520 So good stuff, sir. 735 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,520 It was a good one. 736 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:21,520 Yeah, absolutely. 737 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,080 So I enjoyed the chat. 738 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,080 Um, any, anything else you'd like to bring on up? 739 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:31,800 Uh, no, I think, you know, I think it's just, just, uh, when you walk into the golf shop, 740 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,440 when you, you know, just, just be, if you can be on that patient side, on that understandable 741 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,660 side, maybe we gave some people a little bit of insight into kind of why we make decisions 742 00:40:40,660 --> 00:40:45,320 when they walk in the door, that things are not always, you know, sort of just the black 743 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:46,320 and white. 744 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,320 There are some parameters. 745 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:53,480 And again, like any other business people, like 95% of these people are, are great, just 746 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:58,480 awesome, excited to be there and, uh, and appreciative of what we do. 747 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,920 And, uh, yeah, just it's, you know, enjoy, enjoy your day. 748 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:02,920 Don't, don't get stressed. 749 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,760 Don't get frustrated at your day. 750 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:05,760 Enjoy the day. 751 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:06,960 Where our goals make your day better. 752 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:07,960 That's our goal. 753 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:08,960 Absolutely. 754 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:09,960 Every day. 755 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:10,960 Absolutely. 756 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,360 So, um, one to thank all our listeners. 757 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,320 Um, you know, if this, uh, if you like this, please think about liking or subscribing 758 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:17,320 to the channel. 759 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,040 It really does a, does help. 760 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,800 Um, and once again, thank you, Sean, really enjoyed the chat here. 761 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:29,120 Um, I think people got a great insight of the pitfalls and downfalls or, or the, the 762 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,320 traps of owning a golf course when it just seems so easy. 763 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:33,320 Right. 764 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:34,320 That's it. 765 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:35,320 Exactly. 766 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:36,320 Team. 767 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:37,320 I kept great talking as always, and, uh, we'll, we'll see you soon. 768 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:38,320 All right. 769 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:53,320 Have a great day. 770 01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:10,320 Okay. 771 01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:11,320 Thank you. 772 01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:12,320 Thank you. 773 01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:13,320 Yeah. 774 01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:14,320 Thank you. 775 01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,380 you 776 01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,380 you 777 01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:17,380 you 778 01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:47,380 you 779 01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:17,380 you 780 01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:47,380 you 781 01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:17,380 you 782 01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:47,380 you 783 01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:16,320 you 784 01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,320 I'm right here sir are you doing? 785 01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:44,320 Doing great, doing great. So are you in the car I take it? 786 01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,320 Can you hear me Sean? 787 01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,320 Yeah, give me one second sir hang on. 788 01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,320 Okay, yeah. 789 01:14:50,320 --> 01:15:06,320 Alright, I'm in the car driving I had the alarm set for 10 o'clock make sure I called you and didn't want that going off for the interview so anyways. 790 01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,320 Gotcha, gotcha where are you driving to? 791 01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:22,320 I am actually going to hit some golf balls in a heated facility kind of heated like heat behind you is currently less than 40 degrees I think on the temperature gauge. 792 01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:23,320 Wow. 793 01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:27,320 That's just what we do here in Massachusetts 42, 42 currently. 794 01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:32,320 Getting used to it huh I bet that's a big change from being in old Florida isn't it? 795 01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:35,320 I am not enjoying this part sir. 796 01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:40,320 You guys had some black ice up there what about two weeks ago or so or something like that? 797 01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:53,320 We've had some snow the last couple I've had two snowstorms, one snowstorm we'll call it one snow event or whatever yesterday morning, Friday morning, I don't know they all blend together. 798 01:15:53,320 --> 01:16:02,320 But yeah, yeah I'm not getting used to it I'm not ever going to get used to it I'm going to try to head back as soon as I can but it is what it is right now. 799 01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:16,320 Absolutely you know what I remember as a kid you know you or at least when I was up in North Carolina you get out of the hot room into the hot shower out of the hot shower into the hot car you know you just kind of plan your day around where heat is going to be. 800 01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:25,320 Yeah, yeah, people keep telling me to buy a winter coat and I'm like I'm not buying, no, I'm not giving in, I just want to go from one spot to another. 801 01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:34,320 I'm not planning on staying in the cold weather like if I have to go to a Patriots game I might buy something but at this point. 802 01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:37,320 I don't think you got to worry about the Patriots making the playoffs. 803 01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:56,320 No, no we're safe there. 804 01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:10,320 I don't think you got to worry about the Patriots making the playoffs. 805 01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:39,320 I don't think you got to worry about the Patriots making the playoffs. 806 01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:09,320 I don't think you got to worry about the Patriots making the playoffs. 807 01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:39,320 I don't think you got to worry about the Patriots making the playoffs. 808 01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:09,320 I don't think you got to worry about the Patriots making the playoffs. 809 01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:39,320 I don't think you got to worry about the Patriots making the playoffs. 810 01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:28,320 And then also I just I want to include some part of the, I feel like it's one of the most criticized businesses around. 811 01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:37,320 So if me and you walk into Best Buy or Target, we don't question the pricing. 812 01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:40,320 We don't tell the manager how things should be running. 813 01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:44,320 And we don't talk about the layout of the store. 814 01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:45,320 Like you just go do it. 815 01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:56,320 But golf courses as you know are just so like, oh your greens should be, oh you know what you need to do to fix that, you know, say around whatever things called on the greens. 816 01:20:56,320 --> 01:21:03,320 You know, or you know like, hey you should mark these two for one and then you get, oh great sir, that's good, thanks. 817 01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:12,320 Oh yeah. And they want to talk about tee boxes, where they need to put car paths, you know, the guy shouldn't mow over there, you know, don't have the maintenance guys out on the course at this time. 818 01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:15,320 I mean, it's endless. 819 01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:18,320 It's good, right? I mean there's a bunch of topic right there. 820 01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:30,320 So I think between those two things, I think you lead with or I'll talk to you, I'll kind of interview you for the first part about, so Tim, let's talk about what's happened at one of the local golf courses since September. 821 01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:36,320 Kind of give me an update and kind of, you know, and then you kind of go through the different things that have happened over the last eight weeks. 822 01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:44,320 And then you say to me, you know, hey Sean, you know, I'm on the Facebook page for Oakley Country Club. I heard something happened over the weekend. 823 01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:46,320 Can you explain what that was? 824 01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:47,320 Yeah. 825 01:21:47,320 --> 01:22:00,320 So I think it, you know, it's going to be individual to our circumstances, but also we'll kind of make it as a broad stroke type of thing for golf courses in general and all the trails, you know, trails that come with it. 826 01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:07,320 So absolutely. And I think you having over 20 years experience as a GM can definitely, you know, talk about the business highlights of it. 827 01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:08,320 Yeah. 828 01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:13,320 And what people, what people imagine can happen and what is reality. 829 01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:15,320 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 830 01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:18,320 All right, so let's get started here.