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Okay. Welcome back everybody. Welcome back to Dynamic Podcast.
I'm your co-host Tim McElvanagh and with me is my fellow co-host Sean Klotz.
And today Sean, please give us a great introduction for this gentleman.
This is a great one today.
Dynamic Golf listeners, I'm really excited to have Coach Jerry York with us.
Coach, just go ahead and introduce yourself a little bit.
Say who you are and we'll fill in the rest.
But I know you're a very humble guy too.
A long time Oakley member. I've been going on 28 years here.
As Sean has probably told you, Tim Mack, that this is Don Ross's very first golf course.
Yes.
It's just kind of incredible to play in.
Even though it's a short course, we're probably playing at 6,000 yards here.
He had a way to put the green structures and putting surfaces to make it the highest floor.
So I'm one of those guys that I played, I love it, but it's hard for me to score here.
So Tim Mack, it's 6,000 yards but it's also par 70.
I think that's the thing that people kind of take for granted.
So this is definitely shorter par fours.
But like Coach said, it's so much guarded by the greens and the structure.
And the course really hasn't changed since you've been here.
Is that right structurally?
No, everybody has their stone of lost here.
It still hasn't changed probably from a few different changes.
Land lost the houses.
But we're probably the first course I can think of that is Jack Nicklaus assigned houses all around.
We just put a course in the middle of the house right in the city, right in the neighborhood.
Well, the old times, that's what they kind of did.
They kind of used the land that they had.
But I think the sheer genius of what's held up to the test of time now with him is that he can make something that can last 100 years and we haven't changed it.
Which you see a lot of other courses getting revamped and re-changed.
So, so, so listeners, we need to we need to not gloss over this fact of who we have in front of us.
I know Coach York, I've only known for a month, probably one of the most humble people I've met so far.
But Coach Jerry York, he became the winningest winningest men's college ice hockey coach in history in 2012.
He's just got an illustrious career, coached BC for 24 years, 32, 28 years, 28 years.
Coach, coached hockey for 50 years, by the way.
That's that shouldn't be glossed over.
Five times as our mower goes by.
Yeah.
That's what's the good thing about this show.
We're alive.
Yeah, this is what we like though, right?
Team actually like to hand me out.
Absolutely.
We're we're here.
We're on the outdoors having fun, man.
Yeah.
So he's got he's a five time NCAA college coach champion.
They won the championship four times with BC, one time with Bowling Green.
Am I doing it right so far, Coach?
Yes.
Okay.
Good.
I mean, 12 frozen fours, which is the NCAA.
You know, that's the frozen four for a basketball basically.
Yeah, the final four.
Yeah.
He went to the NCAA tournament 18 times.
I mean, I keep going.
The Beanpot, Tim McAvain and for Florida listeners who don't appreciate the Beanpot.
It's really one of the best college tournaments around.
And it's just the four teams still coaches.
Is that right?
Yes.
So Harvard, BC, BU.
And Northeastern.
And up here, Team Mac, that would be like University of Florida playing FSU or Alabama
playing Auburn type of thing.
That's how distinguished that career that tournament is.
Wow.
All four schools are within eight miles of each other.
It's crazy.
I'll go to you.
So a lot of robbery there.
Oh my gosh.
He's only got nine titles in that in that little deal there.
But anyways, he wouldn't have agreed if we just talked about hockey.
He wants to talk about golf.
Let's talk about golf.
You know, I've coached 50 years.
So I've played a lot of fundraisers, a lot of events surrounding the schools at BC and at Clarkson up in
Northern New York and Balling Green and North West Ohio, which are surrounded by great golf courses.
So I've had a chance to play some and I need Sean here to help me get my handicap down.
I'm watching his YouTube and he's got me doing all kinds of things.
I'm skipping with the one leg up in the air.
So hopefully I'm getting better.
Well, he's a great coach.
I've seen him change some people swing around quite a bit and definitely take a putting lesson from him.
The guy knows a thing about the green for sure.
So, so Coach York, we're just talking literally five minutes before the podcast.
I was trying to tell him a story about how I had an instructor that I went down and I went to see down in Port St.
Lucie. His name was Rick Martino.
He was the director instruction for the PGA.
He worked at Oakmont and coach says, Oh, no, no, hold on.
I got to tell you the story about when I played Oakmont.
He's got coach just give us a little itinerary of where you've been able to.
Yeah, let's hear it.
What part of the first green they have despite the member telling me how quick it's going to be.
And I got that church, church.
I think I had each one of those church.
So it was a humbling day at Oakmont, but a fun, fun day.
What other courses have you had a chance to play?
I think I rate them.
I think Pine Valley, Chinacocca are probably my two favorites.
I really like the San Francisco golf club.
But without a club with a group of alumni for an event here.
And I always say I want to play Olympic.
I want to play Olympic.
And the guys go, listen to anyone play.
It was fabulous.
One hole there with a dual.
They had a notable two congressmen with duals.
One stride each other.
That's very cool.
That's cool.
And you know, it's just I don't know what course you play.
You get three good guys with you or ladies with you or whatever.
You can have a lot of laughs.
It doesn't have to be national or Inverness or something.
It's the company you keep that makes it enjoyable, right?
Yeah, it's just such a great game team.
We talk about all the time, right?
Yeah.
We talk about the people that we would dream to play with.
And half the time it's either our family or a friend or something like that.
And nobody really cares about the course.
We go play the local course around the corner, the local muni.
We're not going to be in the same place.
We're going to be in the same place.
As long as we've got a good group, we're happy to go, right?
And T Mac, it's one of those situations where you hit a good shot.
Oh, God, I've got this game now.
So you always try to improve and do different things.
That's the fun of it.
That's like life.
You coach, you always want to be better as a coach.
Every day you do challenges.
But yes, that's a fun way to go through the summers.
Not the winter, like you guys could do.
So, Coach, speaking about kids, I've got a little question for you.
Being an instructor myself and all that, when you see these kids, you know,
being a coach at a high level like yourself, what are some of the attributes
or what are some of the things that you kind of look forward to?
I mean, because, or look at, you know, what are some of the great attributes
that you kind of recognize that that athlete's going to make it or not?
You know, I think the perseverance, just to keep going at it, you know,
give it a certain level of talent.
I see so many careers, you know, just end when it gets a little more grit
from the player, you know, knocking down doors and just trying to get better
every single day, the competitiveness inside you.
We've sent a lot of players from our colleges to the NHL for, you know,
for our, that make a great, great living.
But a lot should have been there that didn't get there just because
they ran into some obstacles.
I think, you know, T-Mac, you become the best ball for Oakley,
and then all of a sudden you go to some other spot,
oh, where are these guys learning to play?
Yeah.
So, and then you actually have to fight through it and become the best you can.
Gotcha. Gotcha.
That's a great one, T-Mac.
You know, we've talked about that sometimes in our podcast about,
from the lesson perspective, right?
We give the gentleman, lady, whoever, child, junior, a lesson,
and that instantaneous, and it's become a little more the last,
we'll call it 10 years, with sort of the advent of the iPhone, social media,
some of those things, but that instantaneous gratification type of thing.
That's not how you use a couple of Boston guys.
Ray Bork became Ray Bork, or Jerry Cheever became Jerry Cheever,
or, you know, Cam Neely, like, those are all Boston references.
Some of the people won't get that.
Yeah.
It's not how Lemieux got it. It's not how Gretzky got it.
Gretzky wasn't the fastest, biggest guy, but he understood the game,
and he kept working at it every single day,
and I think that's from the golf side, you know,
bringing it back to what we're talking about as far as why people listen to us,
and why Coach York asks me every day.
He'll text me 8 o'clock at night, hey, I watched this YouTube video of you.
What do you think is wrong with this, right?
It's great. It's like that constant, never-ending, trying to get better at the game.
Yeah.
That's why we get up in the morning and do it.
Yeah.
Can you please teach them how to respond to a text?
I'm still waiting for some of those downhill sliders set up.
But, yeah, it's –
That's –
In golf, as fun as it could be, it could be so frustrating.
You see some of the people walk off the course that, you know,
they had four hours of the sun with good guys,
and they missed a three-quarter hour, you know, thinned out sandwich.
They all have been that.
God, it's a game, you know, for us.
We're not making a living out of it.
Absolutely. You're out there to have fun, camaraderie,
and, you know, just getting out and enjoying the day.
I mean, I see so many people get uptight about swings,
and I'm like, you're not good enough to get that mad.
Yeah, because they don't put the effort in.
So to touch on something, we have to touch on TMAC,
because we haven't done a podcast in a week.
Yeah.
You know, last Friday at the PGA Championship,
I don't even want to talk about the –
I really don't want to talk about the case or the police
or anything like that, but the fact that he showed up
three and a half hours for his tee time early, right?
So I think Coach York, you can give us some insight on –
your players don't show up on the ice, right?
That amount of exercise, weight room, stretching,
watching video, I imagine probably came up throughout your years
as a coach, like, change.
Yeah, I mean, just some insight on that.
I mean, the background of those type of golfers,
how serious they take the event, remarkable.
It carries over to, you know, Kobe Bryant in basketball,
how he prepared for games, and, you know,
Brad Moczano from the Bruins here,
who just lost, but he'd be the same way.
He's there so early for games.
And I'm not going to watch some of the baseball players,
you know, 8 o'clock game, getting to the pocket,
1 o'clock in the afternoon, about later, right?
It's just the work of, like, got to stretching.
And we've got guys running from our golf, from our car,
up the steps, grab a club and score the first tee.
Why not get it through all of this, right?
Right, right.
So, like you say, T-Mac, the expectation level's got to change
with the player, and I don't want to come off negative.
It's just be realistic with your, like Coach just said,
like you say, T-Mac, be realistic with your expectations.
You know, understand, hey, we're just going to go out there
and have a good time.
Let's do that.
It can be a social event, but you can't be throwing clubs
or getting mad at yourself based on how much you put into the game.
Well, I mean, if you want to get to the next level,
you've got to put in, you know, you've got to be there
three or four hours ahead of time.
That's why Scottie Scheffler's number one in the world.
You know, you've got to put that time in, that effort in to, you know, do that.
And I see, you know, I've got a couple students that are really good,
you know, probably Division I students, and I just, they just don't,
they could put a lot more work into it, you know,
be more apt about their practice, their nutrition, their sleep.
But, you know, as Coach said, you know, they get to a little bit tougher area
and they just kind of, you know, kind of shy away from it, to be honest with you.
Yes, sir, yeah.
I don't let that tournament go without, you know,
that last hole there with Deshambault, last roll of the ball,
go again, and we're thinking of a playoff,
and now all of a sudden the three-foot is to win, you know, 10 minutes later.
And I did watch Scott's putting lesson last night on YouTube,
and he talked about the three-foot putt.
He said, now listen, even the four is only, I think, an average of seven out of 10.
So here's a guy who could win a first major and he's got a three-foot putt,
and he just drains it.
Well, actually, we went around the cup to, yep, yep, we did.
Yeah, that was a good capture by the cup, to be honest with you.
That was, the cup kind of got up there and snagged that ball for him a little bit,
but good for Xander Schauffele, a gracious winner,
and I'm glad to see him win his first major, for sure.
Hey, Matt, let me divert something.
So do you have a specific pre-shot routine that you do every time?
Yeah, I do.
I kind of, to be honest with you, I waggle the club quite a bit until I get ready.
It's kind of like a Nick Price, to be honest with you.
I get kind of teased about it a little bit, but people like it, so it is what it is.
That's kind of my pre-shot routine.
Yeah, we've talked about this before.
Mine is between 16.9 and 17.1 seconds.
That's my pre-shot routine.
Steph Curry, you give him a basketball to do a free throw.
You tell him to bounce it twice, he's going to miss.
He only bounces it once, right?
Yeah.
So my question to coaches, hockey's such an active sport type of thing.
Not necessarily a pre-shot routine, but when they're on the bench,
getting ready to go back on the ice, like is there,
do they do the same thing when they come off,
or are they just trying to get rest, are they looking at video,
what are they kind of, how are they getting them prepared to get back on the ice?
As a coach, how are you doing that too, or as an assistant coach?
Well, I think that the player is, you know, resting, he comes back,
he's got to catch his breath, and really kind of sort of breathing for,
you know, 15, 20 seconds, and then start thinking about the next shift.
Because if he starts thinking about that missed puttum 17, he'd be a wreck at the 18th tee.
And, you know, hockey's mistakes made, you know,
you miss a check, you have wide open net, you go over it,
so when you get back, that chip's gone, and you kind of go into your next snap.
So that's really important, I think, in hockey, and I think that carries over to golf too.
Yeah, that's great advice right there for the crowd, right?
Absolutely, you know, how many times do we miss that puttum?
Who was the PGA golf, was it?
Macklew, they had the waggle, Casir, Sergio, everyone hit it awful.
Yeah, I've got kind of a little Sergio kind of thing, I kind of waggle the club,
and I couldn't tell you for certain how many times I waggle that thing,
but I try to keep myself active, and then once I kind of feel that shot in my head,
boom, off I go.
That's a good point right there too, is you don't want to stay stiff and static.
We gave a ladies clinic on Wednesday night, had about 30 ladies.
Again, we talk about this all the time.
If we presented a men's clinic, we might get two people,
but the ladies are more interested and active and want to,
I wouldn't say want to get better, they're more open to it.
But, you know, as we're teaching, you seem to do this,
Macklew, go up there and hold the staff to the club right below their hands.
It's amazing how much stress there is on that staff, right?
They're nervous, they're nervous, they're in front of you,
they're trying to do the right thing, they're so focused that they forget
that it's an athletic move, like Coach DeSess.
You've got to be ready to make, it's that fusion of mental and physical together.
Yes.
Kind of where that line is, and golf is very difficult because it's static.
Something's going to happen until you activate it, right?
Correct, correct, but you've got to bring that interathlete out somehow,
you know, that athlete of some sort.
And I just find for myself, if I just stand over the ball, I'm not good.
No, it's the putting thing, it's the matter of not, you know,
again, the routine for putting is so important.
Shockley makes the putt because he doesn't deviate from the routine.
He's made it millions of three-footers.
Yes, I know.
But Tim Mack, you and Sean are going to talk about this because you talk about grip pressure.
Yeah.
You know, Ben Hogue way back holds the club like a bird,
but all of us get up there and you can see the veins popping, you know.
You're picking, I don't know, I've got to be soft, I am soft,
but it's a hard thing to do when you're long pass three over the water
and your hands are like, what do you take guess for a sandwich of golf?
How do we stop that?
You know, what I kind of do when I get in pressure situations like that
where I start to feel the grip pressure, I actually squeeze the heck out of the club a couple times.
And then once I grab that club after the second or third time, that tension's gone.
You know, that's just what I kind of do.
I know that it's there, so let's face the problem.
So I just squeeze the club a couple of times really hard.
And then once I get that tension out, then it's just kind of, you know,
feel those soft forearms and just let it roll and don't worry about the results.
My answer to the question would be a little bit of the Tim Holtz lesson
that we had a couple of months ago when I was talking about grip pressure.
And essentially, the thing is to keep the pressure consistent all the way through.
Hang on.
So one of the best examples would be Jack Nicklaus, right?
Nicklaus covered the golf club because Tim Flick told him to hover the golf club.
Yeah.
The reason why he did it was so the consistent grip pressure stayed throughout the entire motion.
He didn't ground the club.
And then as soon as you lift the club off the ground, you're going to add pressure in your hands.
So, you know, it's an easy thing to talk about, a hard thing to do,
especially like Coach said out here, hole number 15 in Oakley is 100,
depending on where you're playing at, 140, 160, overwater, completely overwater.
There's no bailout.
So you have to be committed to the shot and you have to allow the club head to release some speed,
all that type of stuff.
As soon as you hold it tighter, it's going to stop.
It's going to inhibit your speed and you're barely going to hit the ground and kind of hit a bad shot.
So I do have a few tightness, full V1s in that pond.
T-Mac, on the grip pressure, it's tough to listen to your show.
You're going to hold it softly, but boy, it gets the ball sometimes, then you re-grip it.
So I'm going to just take it consistent with you before that re-grip just kind of.
So, T-Mac, just the continuation of Tim's lesson was when I get to a five and six iron,
this is a good one for you, Coach.
When it comes to about their hybrids, I would say, wedges, nine irons, eight irons,
our swing speed is much slower than it is with a five, six iron or hybrid.
Correct.
That's established because the club is longer.
So my problem is five and six irons keeping the ball point straight.
So Tim Poth told me, grip the club tighter, but just keep it consistent all the way through
because we know the five and six irons are going to be swung faster.
So the face is going to deflect more at that speed, right, T-Mac?
Correct. You're absolutely correct on that. Yes, sir.
Yeah. So by gripping a club a little tighter, it's okay as long as it's consistently tight
the entire time. And then I've hit some of my most straight five and six irons,
long irons, because we get that question a lot from students.
How do we get our long irons better?
It's okay to grip it tighter because you're going to keep the face more square through impact
and therefore, you know, the ball flight is going to be straighter.
So what I'm saying is I don't have the same grip pressure on my five iron as I do for my lob
60 degree shot from 15 yards off the green.
Yeah.
There's no curving like that.
Yeah. It just makes sense. I mean, with accelerated speed, you're going to have to have greater force to hold it.
So, you know, if you just, you know, with probably, as you said, once about past the six iron,
five iron and stuff like this, the grip pressure is going to gain a little bit on the Newtons on that for sure.
It's part of the reason Bryson went to the jumbo max grips. 100%.
He wanted something he could hold and grab onto.
He didn't want to have a thinner, smaller object, we'll call it.
So by doing that, he can now put as much pressure he wants in his hands, but then really turn his shoulders.
That's where he gets a big part of his power.
Yeah. And to touch on touch on Bryson, I think he's going to be a big favorite for the US Open.
I mean, he's been in contention for the last two majors.
So I'm anxious to see that guy go hard at the...
Is he allowed to play in it? Are they putting him in?
He's a US Open champ, isn't he? I think so. I'm not sure if there's things up.
I think it's the same thing. I think the live, that's part of the reason the live guys are the live guys.
They can still play in every major except for the players championship because that's the PGA sanction one.
So, but they get all the majors. So yeah.
While we got coach here, I got a question for me. Got me thinking, so coach,
the reason why Bryson is different than the player from 30 years ago, meaning like Corey Pavin or Tom Kite, the guys who hit it shorter.
Those guys couldn't compete now because you got Scheffler and Bryson and Rory just hitting these bomb drives.
So what's the difference in hockey? The goalies have more padding, right? They're bigger.
They're more dexterous or whatever.
But the speed that I remember from Wayne Gretzky, Paul Coffee, like these guys back in the...
It's not faster, right? They're bigger and faster as far as players.
No question. I was glued last night to the World Championships with Prague.
The US was playing Czechia, a 1-0 game, but it was like as fast as...
I mean, these are the best players in the world coming from the NHL representing their countries.
And you know, Pasnick and Zakic were the blue ones.
And we're our players from BC, Matt Boldy.
I think he's going to be the next American superstar in the NHL, a Modena or Brian Leach type of player.
But he's just a big, strong set of ice men that's in fabulous shape as all these top end players are.
And they're just quicker and they're just the better golfers, you know, the better hockey players.
Better baseball players. They're just getting bigger.
They're getting stronger.
I don't know how much you've seen this, but if you go watch some YouTube videos of Connor McDavid
and some of his pre... some of his hand drills, the kid from Chicago.
Yeah, the dark.
Like, it's amazing what they're doing with the puck and these pre-shot or pre-game drills.
It's just... it's... it's... when Tiger makes the Nike commercial 20 years ago
where he's just sitting on the range, tapping the ball in the club and then hitting it,
the cameramen are like, what the heck did you just do?
You know, the...
What the guys are doing is just... it's jaw dropping.
And then you realize why their hands are so good at the game.
Hey, Matt, you're sitting right now, hopefully, the next Stanley Cup winner down there, the Panthers, Florida Panthers.
One of my former players is the assistant general manager, Brett Peterson.
Okay.
And, you know, they got a great chance, you know, the ranges are good.
It's probably going to be a seven game series, but, you know, like Tampa did a number of years ago,
if Florida gets going now, wins the Stanley Cup, the state's going to be, you know,
it's clearly a football state.
You know, Coach, I've got to say that when hockey came down here, you know, 25 years ago, 30 years ago,
I didn't really think it had a Snowballs chance and you know what.
But I'll tell you what, Tampa Bay really rallied to it and hockey is huge down here.
I mean, it's almost rivalry in football, almost, to be honest with you.
It's amazing.
I think we've got the most sellouts on the NHL right now, most consecutive sellouts.
They're like 500, you know, 562 or something, the Lightning.
Also because they deliver a great product.
Yeah.
And it's a great location, too, to be honest with you.
Great location.
Family.
Coach would say this, too, I would think.
I don't know, but the sport in person is miles better than it is on TV.
Right.
Yeah.
It's just the opposite of golf.
Yeah.
Because they go to the golf tournaments and you need a periscope to look over and.
Yeah.
On TV, golf is fascinating for me.
Yeah.
It's just the opposite of hockey.
Yeah.
What else can we help you with in your game?
You've got a couple of PGA guys who are pretty good at their jobs.
You got anything else you want to know about?
Yeah.
What can we answer for you, coach?
Well, getting off the backside, the long time pro here, Scott Johnson has worked with me
for 24 years now.
And, you know, he loves my golf swing, except he always ends up with my right foot, my weight.
I'm trying to get that shifted over.
That's the hardest thing for me.
Most of the guys I play with don't finish like this guy I'm talking to, Scott, with
that high finish and the shoulder turn.
But how do we keep going to get off that right side?
That's my question.
Yeah.
John, you want to take this one or you want me to answer this one?
I can put my two cents in, so I'll go and I'll let you think about it for a second.
But basically, my best drill with that question to people is to take practice swings, take
your right hand off the golf club, take your right hand off the golf club.
Jerry's getting up to do it because he wants to.
I like it.
Yeah, so you're not going to not going to ground it, Jerry.
Take your right hand off the club right before impact.
Yep.
And then what you display your left arm.
There you go.
Right.
He just did it.
I wish I had the YouTube going right now.
He just did it.
We're downstairs in the patio.
We need to get the cameras rolling.
Yeah, exactly.
Got to get the cameras rolling.
Yeah.
When you take these.
I wish I had the video.
It's so people use their dominant hand, which typically their right hand.
We talked about that before.
But when you let go with that back arm and let the lead, the leading arm control the golf
club, you get to a natural finish.
Correct.
You just did it.
Yeah.
The right hand, a little bit of grip pressure.
The right hand holds on right.
Right.
And impact.
And you kind of think, yeah, instead of letting go, letting the left arm and the left, the
left side.
Yep.
Now he's got this perfect finish team back right foot off the ground.
I know.
Well, that's part of it.
You got to do it in practice form first.
Right.
But my my stat of the day or whatever, I feel like David Patrick is four players finished
with 96 percent of the weight on their left side or on their lead side of my college.
Correct.
They finished with percent of their weight on their back foot over here at Oakley Country
Club on the first tee box today.
We will see sometimes the opposite of that number or more importantly, usually 50 50.
They don't get their weight off the backside.
No, no.
I think you got to do it in practice swing.
And then and then to coach's point, you can hit golf balls coach with your right hand.
You just take the right thumb and right forefinger off the club, both hands on there.
But now you got eight fingers controlling it instead of.
Yeah.
Because it's that right thumb, right forefinger team that we see it all day long.
I'm over the top, right?
Yep.
Correct.
You know, I have I play with my brother a lot.
He back.
You know, we'll take videos of our driver and I really got off my right side.
I didn't go look at it when I was coming up the fairway.
Oh, it's like three quarters.
The weight is still there.
I'm up.
It's a false turn.
I mean, my weight's still back there.
Gotcha.
A drill that I typically use with my students is I get them to grab the impact bag.
Sean knows what an impact bag is.
It's basically just a big bag stuff with towels that we use for impacting the club.
And I get them to hold that.
And then I make them make a backswing and then I have them throw it to me.
And with that throwing motion, they typically get the feeling of that right side coming through impact.
Another drill that I have them do is just go down to the pond and take some stones and skip some stones on the water and get that natural feel that we we did as kids.
I try to get back to that and what we used to do as younger people.
Yeah, I know the impact back.
So yeah, actually just pick it up and bring it back and throw.
Yep, yep. I just stand over to the left and let them throw it hard at me and they get a they get a little sense of enjoyment doing that for sure.
One of the best drills in the gym is taking up that like four pound six pound medicine ball.
And basically doing what you're just talking about to get back any golf position golf stance and throw it against the wall and catch it.
Yep. Right.
Yeah, that's a really good one.
It's just it's explosion.
That's what we're trying to get to.
We're trying to explode off the ground.
Yeah.
Forget about posting and all these other terms that they're important.
But the average bear, the average golfer needs to get off that backside.
It's a great question.
Yeah.
But yeah, to be able to do you remember at CMAC when I was coaching the high school team, you were I think you were helping me in one of those years.
We would stand in the ninth fairway.
We have the kids throw the golf club towards the 150 yard marker.
Yes. Yes. Yes. I love that drill.
Right. It's the same thing.
I had somebody do it downstairs and track me and they hit the wall behind them because they hold on with the club so far the club goes back behind the left.
You got to get the club to extend the feeling of the club going out in front of you to the right, not left, not left.
And that that right hand that backhand just dominates so much.
It's full of actually iron all the way down the field.
Yeah. Yeah.
And if you're aiming at a target, 150 marker tree, whatever you want to do, you throw the club.
So it goes to the right hand side of the target.
The marker.
You don't have to.
You can't hold on with your right hand.
The sooner you do, the club goes behind you.
That's what it is.
So again, it's all practice.
But to have the golf ball in front of you and do all these things, it's the next level.
Yeah.
And from there, it's the next level of doing it in competition and then playing for five dollars and then playing in your senior championship.
Correct.
Absolutely.
I was thinking about golf and how I really get interested.
I always played, but I was never really interested.
I'm at Bowling Green.
I'm going to put a name at you.
You might both guys might remember.
But AJ Bonner was a club pro at the University of Coors, coached our team.
He came out with a series of videos where he hit a home run.
Have you ever heard him in all his videos?
It was really big back there.
I'd say that.
No, I haven't heard of him.
But I mean, I think that's really what a lot of the pros are doing now.
Just, you know, hit it hard and go get it really.
I mean, smash and grab.
Yeah, it's interesting.
You gotta look him up.
AJ Bonner, he had a series of videos.
Once he moved to San Diego, he started like a San Diego golf academy.
And he had this whole, you know, before video really became, you know, what do you call the old films, the DVRs.
DVDs.
DVDs, yeah.
But it's interesting to look up and actually back at a golf club with like a little baseball bat in the bottom.
Where you hit, you try to just hit a home run.
So you flick your hands and you do it from his knees, you do it sitting down.
It'd be good for you guys to look at.
I think you'd enjoy that.
I'm pulling him up on YouTube right now as we speak, my friend.
I'm all into it already now.
He's a great guy.
Every Friday afternoon, he'd take three coaches out and play.
Bowen Green had a university golf course right there.
So we'd play 18 with him.
He was just remarkably insightful and a great guy to listen to.
So he got us all involved.
Hit a home run, he said.
I love that.
He played in the airfield, I figured he had in Ohio.
Oh, I need to know how was that?
How was Muirfield?
Well, John Hines was a big Jack Nicklaus.
He kind of followed him around, but he became his general manager at Murfield.
And he brought us out.
My brother, my son, and stayed in the cabins there right there on the clubhouse.
We played 18 with John, so the second day we came out to play, he says,
we're going to get a little surprise here, Jerry.
Jack's going to come out and just walk a few holes in there.
That's great.
So he gets out and I figured that the par 3 over the water or the sand trap in the back of it,
I figure out what number that is.
So that's where he shows up.
So I thought I was playing pretty well.
Talk about we grew up in the golf club.
I hit the ball, I was so tight, nervous on it, but that was a great golf course.
John Hines, actually we had a big, we met dinner here a number of years ago.
We were honoring him and his wife Ellen.
We were great friends of Jack and Barbara Nicklaus.
That to me was a fabulous two days.
Murrfield was, I keep on looking back where the ball was playing,
where I was playing from, it was a completely different golf course.
Sure, I'm absolutely sure.
Would you say it's better or on par with Augusta National?
I've never played Augusta National, but I think it's, you've been there, real?
No, I've never been there.
What?
Coach, we're going.
We're going, come on coach.
Road trip.
T-Mac, if you ever get to play Murrfield, there's a course like five miles away called the golf club.
It's an amazing golf course.
The background, the books here and everything, I was reading about it.
A member of the Columbus Country Club got so frustrated with slow play and swimming pools and all that part,
he just built his own golf course.
He brought in, I think it was Jones, some really good architect,
and he said just spend as much money as you want.
But you've got to look it up, the golf club.
It's simply called the golf club, it's in New Albany, Ohio, and it's close to Murrfield.
Wow.
Yeah.
T-Mac, I told coach we could probably do three of these today.
He's got so much knowledge.
It's been such a great honor and really just great time.
I know he's, like I said, one of the most humble guys I know.
I'm looking forward to the summer to get more text at 8 a.m. or 8 p.m.
Perfect.
And hopefully if you come up here, we'll introduce you to him in person.
Yeah.
T-Mac, we need, because Sean says he's going to send you down a Oakley golf shirt,
so we just need your size.
If he doesn't do it, please call me in a week and I'll get one for you.
Yes, sir, Mr. York.
Thank you, thank you.
I'm a size medium, just so you know, so just send that out.
But yeah, yeah, that would be great.
Thanks, guys.
Are you a Johnny old guy?
Am I what?
A bit of a daddy guy, Johnny old guy, Peter Malat.
What do you like?
Who do I like for the senior championship?
No, for your golf shirts.
We got some fancier stuff down at Lake Parnadette and Silverado, sir.
Oh, yeah, I'm not used to all that fancy stuff.
We got Lululemon, we got Johnny O, we got Turtleson.
Scott does a great job at keeping the Pro Shop stock,
and we'll find one good for you.
Yeah, something simple.
I'm not a very big flashy guy, so.
If Sean's lost your address, he's saying, you have to hang up.
I get it, but I get it.
Hey, team, again, Jerry, thank you so much for coming on board with us.
Really appreciate it.
Hope we got some drills for you.
I guess I like that.
Yeah, so.
Throwing that weighted medicine ball.
There you go, that impact bag.
Throw that impact bag a couple of times, that medicine ball against the wall.
You'll get that finish.
You'll get that follow through.
Yep.
So, well.
Don has one in his trunk.
I've got to get it from him.
So, thank you, everybody.
Mr. York, thank you so much for being on Dynamic Card.
Jerry, Jerry, please.
Jerry, thank you.
Thank you.
And it was great.
Sean, thank you again.
Last words, anything you got for us before we break, sir?
Always good.
Next week we've got Scott Johnson, who is a two-time All-American at University of Tampa.
He's also the head professional at Oakley Country Club for the last 24 years.
He'll be a great interview just for a lot of different reasons,
and we look forward to having him.
So, just keep going, team, back.
Sounds great.
Really excited.
So, thank you so much, and we look forward to seeing you guys
and listening to you guys next week.
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