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Get ready to take off with dynamic golf.

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All right, welcome back listeners.

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Welcome to Dynamic Golf.

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I'm your co-host, Tim McElvano.

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And with me is my fellow co-host, Sean Klotz.

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Hey golfers out there in the Tampa area and the worldwide.

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Good touch base with you guys again.

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Team Mac, always great to hear from you.

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I was really excited to talk about that master's podcast we did.

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I think that's one that you really want to kind of go back and listen to a few times.

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Because not only your experience, my experience, it's such a great venue.

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And it comes up once a year.

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But I just, I thought when I went back and listened to it to you,

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I was like, oh my gosh, there's so much good information in here.

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Yeah, there's a lot of great stuff, a lot of great stories,

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a lot of great little hints to how to travel and what you kind of need to do

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for a first experience, right?

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Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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So, you know, with the turning of, you know, the masters,

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you know, their big dedication to junior golf,

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I know you're getting very involved with junior and PGA League.

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Tell me a little bit of some of the clinics and programs that you guys are running

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and doing over there up there in the New England area and stuff like that.

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Well, it's great because yeah, so, you know, we did down at Silverado

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when we were doing junior camps, you know, five or 10 years ago type of stuff, you know,

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and that was great.

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Anytime you get to, you know, you're supposed to grow the game, right?

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That's kind of our mission.

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One of our mission statements as PGA members is to kind of grow in the game.

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You know, we both started off, when did you start?

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Team Acura, a little bit older than me, I think, when you started, is that right?

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I started playing the golf, game of golf when I was five years old.

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Oh my gosh, okay.

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That was your grandfather.

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You think I'd be better than this.

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Yeah, year by year, right? Exactly.

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And who was your influence as your grandfather?

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I know your dad played too, but...

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My grandfather was a huge, you know, influencer for me.

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He was a very accomplished golfer, very good golfer, so learned a lot from him.

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Yeah, so, you know, up here at Oakley Country Club, we've got the PGA Junior League,

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which is a very kind of nationwide, you know, event type of thing program.

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It's great to see, first of all, like the support from the parents.

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So there's 52 kids signed up right now, which is between the ages of six and 14,

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I think is the age group.

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Oh wow, okay.

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Pretty big rate right there, yeah.

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Yeah, pretty good range, pretty good range.

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And they come, they have the opportunity, I'll use that for them,

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the opportunity to come out basically Tuesday, or yeah, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,

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from 3.30 to 5.

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And we do a, you know, instruction practice, kind of work with the golfers,

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work with the kids, do some chipping, potting, you know, hey, here's how to hold the club

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if they don't know how to do that.

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But then obviously with that range is kind of different skill levels too.

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So there's some, some kids are a little more accomplished, ready to go.

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But it is, it's kind of that introduction to the game and keeping it fun for them,

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which is I think a huge part of getting your junior into the game to make it fun for them.

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So they don't get, you know, it's a slow moving sport at some points too, right?

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And I think you bring up a great, great part there, especially with the parents support

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and stuff like that, is that you've got to make the game fun for the kids.

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I see a, I see a couple of parents, I wouldn't say a lot of parents,

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but some of them get a little too intense about the game a little bit.

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And I think that you've got to understand that, you know, golf's a game of misses

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and they're not all perfect and just enjoy the time that you're out there with your kid.

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So we've seen that from the high school perspective when we coached, you know,

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some of the local teams over there in Zephyr Hills, but, and you see the difference

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of some of how the parents, and it's every sport, right?

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It's, you know, our friend Ron Crump who's got a really accomplished son

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who's playing a lot of golf now, he also played a lot of baseball.

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Like you see it in the parenting of some of these parents where, you know,

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if you're taking it more seriously than the kid is, or if you're not making it enjoyable

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or fun anymore, the kid's probably going to back away a little bit and kind of shut down.

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So from our side, from the golf perspective side, it's just, you know, again,

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introducing, you know what, team up, this is something that happens a lot in junior golf.

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It's getting better, but they don't come with the right tools, right?

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They're given their uncles clubs that are cut down maybe a couple inches

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and they're heavy and not the right shaft weight and all this stuff.

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So I would agree.

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There's been a huge shift.

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that's kind of fit or cut to them or bought something from dicks that fit them better.

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Most of the time they're coming with an extra long club or extra weighted club

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than what they can swing and it gets them out of what they really need to be doing.

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And then so they have the opportunity again, Tuesday, Wednesday,

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basically a little match.

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It's called the PGA New League match.

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And they do it in a good way.

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It's kind of like the first tee operation does in Florida where, you know,

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they every three holes, they get a flag and essentially, you know,

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there's some scoring to it.

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It's scramble, which I like that.

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Oh, man, it's a scramble.

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Two player or three player scramble golf.

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So it doesn't put that, you know, kind of an innate pressure on the kid

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to have to make the shot because it is a scramble format.

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Keeps it fun, keeps it loose.

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But each time when I talk to them, when they go to different golf course,

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so, you know, my first question when they come back on Tuesday is, hey,

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you know, hey, how'd you play?

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Oh, we won our match by one.

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Like, oh, that's great.

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You know, how'd you play?

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Because they still have the competitive part of it in there, too.

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Yeah, that's great. That's great.

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I mean, and, you know, I like the ability to, you know, keep them in a safe space

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where, you know, you've got that extra partner behind you to kind of pick you up

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so you don't feel, you know, as much pressure as a junior out there for sure.

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And the way they try to do it is they try to pair kind of like a more

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accomplished or slightly older, you know, child with, you know, slightly younger.

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So you can kind of mentor the person a little bit, which is great.

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I see that even on the daily when we do, you know, daily with the instruction,

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you'll see the 12 year old girl out there, you know, helping the eight year old girl

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come along and kind of, you know, hey, you can be on my team type of thing.

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So it's just a good, I think it kind of gets back to the point of what you were

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just saying earlier is that to grow the game, right?

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We're here to grow the game.

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And I think there's an innate instinct in all of us to help other people along

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to help with this very difficult game and grow the game.

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And then the other thing, the last thing I'll say about the PGA Junior League,

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which is something they identified, I'm going to say maybe 10 years ago,

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as I had the show, you know, how they have those educational seminars.

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And I did one on, you know, junior golf type of thing.

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And one of the studies that they'd come up with was that the number one reason

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why kids were like playing in the PGA Junior League was because they got a uniform.

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They got a shirt.

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baseball or basketball, when we were young, we had, you know, we had, we were part

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of the team, right?

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In golf, an individual sport.

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So what the Junior League has kind of taken on when you see the kids come

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over here from a different course, they've all got their red shirts on and we've

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got all got our blue shirts on.

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They all say their last name on the back room.

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They got a number just like in basketball or baseball.

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So it's cool.

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It's an individual sport, but it's played as a team and there's a lot of support

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from each other and then the support of the parents is even just more beneficial too.

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Well, I think that, you know, they're doing a great job with, because, you know,

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golf is very much an individual sport.

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If you can introduce something as a, you know, a team or something like that, it

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doesn't seem so daunting or, you know, so hard to do, you know what I mean?

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I think kids get kind of turned off by the idea that, you know, that it's all on

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me and if I make the mistake, it's all done, right?

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And you're right.

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You know, and I think that being on a baseball team or a basketball team, there

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is kind of that, you know, I didn't have a great day, but my team still won.

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You know what I mean?

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So that builds confidence and stuff like that.

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So I love how they're doing that and bringing that, that, that atmosphere.

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And it's going to bring kids that aren't that talented right now to the game.

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And they're going to get a lot more talented because they have that opportunity.

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Well, you never know, right?

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You don't want to discount anybody.

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You never want to think that somebody can't because some of these kids will come

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back and you can see the progression of just the nine weeks we have with them,

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how much they progress and, you know, how much you, when you saw this, you know,

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10 year old girl four weeks ago and now she's hitting the ball 75 yards in the air

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on the range.

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You look on her face is just awesome.

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Yesterday, I got excited.

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She was so now it's, it is, it's why we, you know, partially why we teach that

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excitement of just kind of seeing that look on people's faces and just getting

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them into it.

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The other part of the team aspect, and this is something, you know, really

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publicized over the last, I'm going to say kind of 20 years is the, the writer

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cup, the president's cup, the Solheim cup, right?

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All these different team events that they produced in either amateur world,

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the Walker cup or in professional world.

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And that's a big episode.

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If they're watching, if their parents, mom, dad are watching the Walker

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cup or the Solheim cup, oh, what's that?

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That's a team event golf.

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Oh, you know, like it, it, it translates.

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It translates.

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Absolutely.

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You know, even, even something like the Zurich classic last week, talking

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about team events, you know, I, I think, I think there was something where there

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was a nine or 10 of the teams were college roommates or college.

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You know, so, you know, just that whole team aspect as you're coming through

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shines through.

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You can even talk about, you know, the, the other guys on the other side that

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have that team event, I'm not going to name the tour, but those guys are there.

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Oh, it's very true.

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But the team event is very, very cool for the kids.

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And I think that, you know, I think there's a lot of room for growth in that,

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that area for a lot of things.

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And I think there's a whole, another sport, whole, another industry that we're

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waiting to explore there.

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You really are spot on.

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Cause I forgot about the whole other tour that we're talking about thing.

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Adam Ember coming yesterday.

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It was like, did you see the Sergio's team was doing this?

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I'm like, I don't even watch it.

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I mean, I don't have the, I haven't figured out how to follow it, but yeah,

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like NASCAR has got team, you know, points to it.

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Like they're on the whatever team, you know, Joe Gibbs team or whatever.

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So it's, it's not like it's a unique thing.

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I think the PGA is probably, or the golf industry is kind of like moving.

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Well, what again, the other tour, the tour we're not having, they do so many

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things that are so different than the normal conventional, I wouldn't say

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boring, but conventional tour that we are so used to watching.

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They're trying to attract a different population.

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So they're making it shorts and shotgun and teams and points and go, right?

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And you got to say that, you know, not, not to say anything against PGA Jr.

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league, but it, it's kind of that same attitude, not that, you know, you know,

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but we want the kids to have fun, be out there in a team atmosphere, hit it as

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hard as you can, wear some shorts, play with your friends.

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You know, we're trying to get to that point.

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I think it's tough because we're so, you know, stuck in those old ways, but

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I think everybody's kind of moving that way to a team event, team atmosphere.

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And you just get more camaraderie with everybody.

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So, hey, I want to pivot just a little bit.

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I think, I think it's a great topic we just did, but let's pivot just a little

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bit.

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I just had a lesson this morning with a brand new first time golfer.

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She's, she's, you know, whatever, mid 40s, but

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brand new golfer, super excited about getting into the sport.

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And I guess my question to you, team, that without us talking about prior,

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which is good, sometimes it's going to get the off the cuff stuff.

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So I'm almost explained to the listeners, like, what do you focus on when you

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get that brand new golfer for that 45 minute session?

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Like what's your, what's your key points that you go through to make sure that

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they, you know, they start off on the right track?

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Really.

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I mean, really what I like to do is when I know it's a beginner, I have a

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club with a grip trainer on it.

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Okay.

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And the first thing I'm doing is I'm getting their grip correct.

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Um, you know, if it's 45 minutes on the grip, it's 45 minutes on the grip.

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I'll be honest with you, but if I get past that grip point, it's going to be,

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you know, stance and posture, you know, I want to lay that foundation for my new

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beginner.

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Um, you know, the other thing is I want to ask them questions about what they

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think the golf swing is and try to get into what they, you know, cause they're,

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they're going to have pre, you know, pre notions of what they think it is.

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And we need to kind of make sure those are straight and we're all aligned in

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thinking the same way.

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Um, but you definitely want to do grip stance and postures is the first, the

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Holy grail, the grail I think.

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That's, that's what I just did.

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As I just did, I think we're all, you know, usually in concert on that, that

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getting the connection between your body, which is your hands on that object,

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which is the golf club, the proper way.

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And, and, you know, going back to the juniors, a lot of juniors aren't

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gripping it, gripping it correctly, meaning they might have some separation

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between their hands.

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They're definitely not interlocking, you know, just yet, but even with the juniors,

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it's like, okay, hey guys, just get your hands together.

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I don't care if it's interlocked or overlap just yet.

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Just try not to have much spacing, but that's what we just did with the, uh,

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with the lesson was we talked about grip.

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And even when you talk about grip, you got to explain what a square face is,

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what a closed faces, what an open faces, because the hand position is in

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relationship to the face being square.

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Correct.

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Um, and then, and then, you know, okay, let's get in the athletic position,

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you know, a little bend in the knees.

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Definitely.

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I, I really like to make the person like, you know, stand straight up and then

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just, I put my left hand on my, my belt.

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I just didn't have it hurt to it on her belt, but I'm just trying to get her to,

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to basically bend over from the waist.

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I think there's always that even in the golf, we've been playing for years,

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they don't bend over enough for the waist.

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They stand too tall.

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And I think that's a great point right there that we need to just sit for a

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second, that, that when you put your hand on that belt buckle and push it back,

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there's a difference between that and just bending over.

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If you know what I mean, you're really pushing your hips back and stuff like

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this.

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And I learned that from you watching you do that.

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Um, you do a great job of putting that there and making sure the person

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understands not to just flop the chest forward, but to actually kind of move

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the pelvis back and move that body in an athletic position.

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Cause what they end up doing, if you, if you tell someone to bend over what

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you're saying, right?

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You tell us how to bend over from the waist, their shoulders are going to slump.

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Right now their arms are kind of like, no, it's just in a bad shoulder position.

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Again, tour players, especially you can see it a lot in most men, but ladies

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look like they're more precise with this for some reason that, that, that whole

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old school kind of put the club shaft on your back from your butt all the way up

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to your head type of thing.

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Like that's what it's supposed to look like.

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Your neck's not supposed to be hunched over from your shoulder.

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You're supposed to look in a bent over position, but it's all about having

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good posture.

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So if you don't have good posture at the beginning, it doesn't matter what

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you do from the rest of this one.

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Yeah.

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Again, kind of the basics.

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I mean, what was old Ben Hogan said, 90% of your misses due to your setup.

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So if you're not set up correctly, then it's, it's next to impossible to hit a

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correct shot.

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So I'm going to brag on this girl here a little bit.

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So her first swing she took today was 31 miles an hour.

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I say girl, she was again mid 40s, 31 miles an hour.

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Never, never picked up a club until this, this today.

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Right.

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Super excited.

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She's nervous, which is also a little side note of when you give golf lessons.

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You got to remember that they are nervous because they don't know how to do it.

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They don't know where to go.

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They don't know what to expect.

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Right.

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You know, the clubhouse, who's this guy? Is he going to laugh at me?

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A bunch of guys are going to be on the driving range.

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Look at me.

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I mean, it's got to be, it's got to be, you know, for, for us, it's like, well,

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we're just going down the driving range.

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But first, you know, female beginner, it's got to be pretty scary.

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You know, intimidating.

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So that's always like, if me and you went and did like ballroom dancing, how

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silly would we look or feel?

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Or if we went and did some kind of Pilates class, right?

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Right. Yeah. Like part of the reason I don't like doing yoga at clout,

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that in a classroom setting, because there's not a lot of six foot two guys

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in the back room looking comfortable.

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Right.

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But so anyways, so she started at 31 miles an hour.

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And you know, we, I mean, again, grip stance, okay, get your staying posture.

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Okay. Here's your backswing.

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Here's how we're going to make a good follow through and kind of talk through

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follow through a lot, which I think again, doesn't get her.

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We'll look by you and I, but it's a good thing.

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It doesn't get her. We'll look by you and I, but, but maybe by the rest of the

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world, like as far as why do I not hit it further?

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Yeah.

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Well, if you don't get to a good position, what is that matter?

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The ball's already gone because you're losing so much speed after impact or at

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impact that that's what pulls those guys up and those ladies up to these

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beautiful picture perfect followers.

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So she, last way she took, she was at 60 miles an hour with a seven hour.

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Wow. Double their speed.

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Isn't that crazy? That's great.

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She hit the ball 85 yards in the air, 102 yards total.

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I mean, and she's just demon.

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Super excited.

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So I probably had the biggest smile on her face as she was doing that.

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Right. I mean, just looked at, you know, you, you look like a God to her now.

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You know what I mean? It's up in the air. It's 85 yards.

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She can do anything right now.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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So I think that's, you know, I, you know, we get mired sometimes in our day to

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day operations and kind of what we're doing. You know, why are we in this

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business type of stuff? But then I have one of those and I'm like, Oh yeah,

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that's why I'm in this business. That's why.

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Absolutely. Absolutely.

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Paying it forward, making sure that we're, you know, passing the game forward for sure.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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So whether it's the six year old girl yesterday hitting it, you know, 40 yards

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in the air or whether it's the, you know, the 10 year old boy that made a chip

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yesterday when I told him to aim it a hole and he did, you know, it's just those

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types of experiences that make it fun, which is again, again, we kind of get

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married into the details of, Oh, we've got a big golf tournament tomorrow.

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We got to make it look good for the people, the members of the golfers,

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whatever. You know what? Those people are all coming out here tomorrow to have a

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good time and play golf and meet people and be social and, you know,

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and how many of those people worked with a PGA professional to get out there to

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play with confidence out there? You know what I'm saying?

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So when you look at those tournaments, just wonder how many

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how many people our industry have touched to make sure that they're out there

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playing and enjoying what they're doing.

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Yeah. Yeah. So we, we did a real quick, maybe the last thing I'll say for the

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day is basically we did a ladies clinic on Wednesday and we got kind of like a

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succession of things throughout the month of May and it was cutting right.

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It was a little chilly. It was like around 55 degrees. So chilly for me still.

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But my point is, and this always happens, remember when we did the clinics up

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at Silverado, this always happens when you post a clinic for ladies,

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we had 16 people sign up. Now, if I post that clinic for men, how many people

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are showing up to you now?

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I'd be surprised if three did.

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Like what is the deal?

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But if it was a long drive, if it was a driver episode, how many guys would show

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up for that one?

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Exactly. But it's just the, I don't know, it's the ego of men. It's the,

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but ladies are more inquisitive. How do I, and it was a great session.

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It was fun. It was like, okay, why, why are you walking your put off, Sean?

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Well, here's what, you know, like just inquisitive and that's, that should be

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the mindset of all of us. We should keep working on these different things.

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So not really a bash against men, more of like a, a hurray for, for ladies that

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they're still open to it.

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One last thing I would say is I would cap off on that is that I've always

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found that juniors and ladies work better in a group setting.

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They want to ask questions.

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Women are always inquisitive, like you just said, they always ask questions

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and they're always asking questions to their peers where men do not.

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You know, they don't walk over and go, Hey, what about your grip?

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What are you doing about that?

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No, women will just sit there and they'll get in a group and they'll talk

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and they'll chat and they learn very well that way.

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And then they're going to come with you with a question and you better be

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ready to get peppered with a couple questions.

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But I love how they, you know, juniors and women work, I think, learn

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best in a group setting when they're beginning.

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Oh, right.

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I agree.

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Hey, that was good.

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Good little session there, sir.

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It was good.

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Very good.

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So once again, want to thank everybody for listening.

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I'm your co-host, Tim McElvanna, with my fellow co-host, Sean Klotz.

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Great, great, great doing this with your team, Mack.

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Love, just, you know, chatting and then giving the, uh, giving our advice

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whether, whether it gets taken up by some of our players, hopefully they can,

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they can improve their game by some of the stuff we talked about.

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Absolutely.

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Great session today.

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We talked about the juniors talked about the ladies.

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Um, I don't think they get talked about enough, uh, especially in our

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industry, so touching on those points is always great.

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Um, we thank you everybody and have a great day.

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See you guys next time.

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Bye.

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