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So for today's subject, we're going to talk about the Masters, Scotty Scheffler, Nellie

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Korda.

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Sit back and get ready to take off with Dynamic Golf.

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Welcome back everybody.

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Welcome back to Dynamic Golf.

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I am your co-host, Tim McElvanagh, here with my main man up in Boston, Mass, Sean Klotz.

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Hey, Dynamic Golf listeners.

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Great to hear, great to talk to you guys again.

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Excited to go through this topic, TMac.

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I think it's going to be a great podcast for some of those players and people that watch

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golf and don't get a chance to go to the holy grail, the museum that we call Augusta.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So.

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How was your experience, TMac?

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I know you were able to get up there.

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What was that on the Monday or Tuesday practice round?

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I got on up there on the Monday practice round and I got to be honest, I did like a little

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video as I was heading on up there and I was very excited, very nervous at the same time.

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You know, there's a lot of things going through your mind, especially first, it's a long road

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trip up there.

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I'm doing it by myself and I'm going through rural Georgia.

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Sure.

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So, you know, about, you know, probably about three or four hours into it where I'm in Georgia

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and stuff like this, I'm thinking, wow, this is really exciting.

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And about 10 minutes go by and I go, I hope I don't break down because there is nothing

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out there.

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No, but an unbelievable drive up there and drive back as much as the experience of seeing

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Augusta going through the state of Georgia and through the back roads was just as, just

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as pretty as well.

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It's funny where it's located.

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You know, it's in that kind of Northeast section of Georgia, kind of pretty close to South

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Carolina.

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And like you're saying, there's just basically one lane road, you know, both ways kind of,

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I think it's route 25 or something coming off of 60, whatever the numbers are kind of

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out of Savannah.

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But yeah, it's just like, like you said, farm from church, church, church farm, you know,

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like some lumber, some logging stuff.

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But then you get into the city and then depending on how you come in, if you come off of 20

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from Atlanta, you know, you're basically right there if you're coming off of 20.

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But the way that I think you came in is it's like, it's not, it's not a very pretty section

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of town, right?

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No, I mean, where I came, I stayed in Waynesboro, which is just South of there and drove in,

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you know, not to say anything about Waynesboro, but I wouldn't put it on my destination up

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there with Orlando or any of those, you know, but once you, you know, once you get on into

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it, it is a little, you know, you're, you're using the GPS, you're going there in the middle

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of the night, basically trying to drive those back roads and stuff like that.

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I tried to get into this, but once you get to Augusta itself, you know, into it, it was

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very easy to get into and get out of it.

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T Mac isn't that that's even part of it too.

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It's changed since I've been there like 2003, 2004, like what I mean by it's changed is

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it's on Washington street, which is a busy two lane road with like Walmart and CVS across

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the street, right?

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Like it's just,

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I think 301 here in Zephyrh Hills, right?

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You just don't expect that golf course to be behind the wall or behind the fences of

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what you're just looking for it to be like this scenic drive and even, even Magnolia

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lane, it's literally on the side of, you know, you can see it, you can't stop there.

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They won't let you, but it's right off the sidewalk, essentially.

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The, the outside section of Augusta is, is definitely different than what you imagine.

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I would say like I was expecting something totally different and it just kind of looked

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like it was kind of a middle of a downtown little downtown that you're trying to scroll

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through and get to.

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And there's a lot of vendors and a lot of scalpers too.

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Oh yeah.

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And I've seen, so again, we're going to go through a lot of the stuff from Augusta is

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just the memories and kind of the unique experiences, how we really hope maybe some of our listeners

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have the opportunity to go or some of the guys who've already had a chance to go.

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We'll hope to get some good feedback from this one.

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But I remember one of my years, I mean, John Daly in his RV with his wife selling his shirts,

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t-shirts outside the CVS like in that parking lot.

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That's John Daly memorabilia.

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This is probably around 2009, 2010.

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And he is, he is him, his wife, they're taking Venmo, they're taking cash selling his like

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crazy to you Mac.

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It's crazy that that was happening outside the gates of Augusta.

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He didn't have the, he didn't have the eligibility to get in that year or whatever.

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Went up, made some extra money, went back to West Orange, you know, down, down in Orlando

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So, hey, you know, if that's your, you know, he's got a hell of a brand and a hell of a

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following.

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So, you know, go where the action's at and I don't blame them.

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So you walk, so you walk in off of Berkman's road, right?

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That's the main road that they kind of funnel you in through.

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And then you said, I think we talked a little bit like, you know, as a PGA member again,

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we're kind of blessed, but we also do this as our profession.

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So it's part of the reason we do it.

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Like you're able to kind of access the one lane that says PGA or LPGA numbers, this lane

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only.

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And then, and what I want to get from you is try to, you know, give this to our listeners

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is essentially when you walk through that little gate, then you start seeing the practice

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area to your left.

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And then you start seeing the pro shop to your right.

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And then, and then kind of, you go a little bit over the hill, you see the leaderboard

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on the right, and then you see the expanse.

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Like give me that.

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What that, because it's chills, right?

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It's chills in your body.

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Absolutely.

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So we'll start from the beginning.

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So once you're in line, you know, I'm traveling by myself, you hear a lot of good conversations.

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Not that, not that, you know, traveling with somebody is a bad idea, but you'd get to hear

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a lot of stories as you're going through the line, meeting a lot of good people.

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You know, as you come through, they've got this archway you come through it's, and they,

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and they do everything in a very structured way.

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They get you up to the line, they tell you to where to stop.

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Everybody's very respectful for what they do.

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There's a little sign off to the right that says LPGA PGA.

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You go on up there.

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It's absolutely first rate.

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Everything's first rate from the start to finish.

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It's just the service is unbelievable.

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You walk on in there and they check you on in very seamless, very easy, very, very nice.

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You come on in and you see this beautiful little building off to the right.

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And you're like, Oh my God, this is, it looks like a Kinkade painting as you're coming through.

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And as you come on up, you're, you come to the left and you see this beautiful driving

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range, which is absolutely iconic that we see every time on the golf channel.

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And then you, you come up around the golf shops on the right, which was extremely busy.

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Cause everybody's getting the collectibles on Monday, right masters.

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And then they, they did something they'd never done before.

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They opened up the course at seven 30.

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They usually do it at eight o'clock.

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They did it at seven 30.

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So I got out there a little bit earlier than most.

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And I just, I, you see the leaderboard where the guy's working on it.

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And then you, you come across there and it's just, I mean, it's, it's one of those things.

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Oh, you know, you've made it into heaven right there.

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It doesn't, it doesn't disappoint.

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That's the thing you build it up in your head for so long and it just doesn't disappoint,

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you know?

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No, it actually exceeds expectations.

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You know, I don't think, I don't think I've ever talked to anybody that came out and said,

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you know, I was really expecting something different, you know, everybody's like, Holy

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cow, you're going to be amazed.

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It's Disneyland for adults.

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It's a museum.

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So then where did you go first?

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Did you go down to the like amen corner?

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Did you kind of walk the front nine or would you do first?

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The first thing I did was I made a, I made a beeline pretty much to amen corner.

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I wanted to see everything, especially early in the morning with the sun coming up.

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And I had my camera with me, which you're allowed to during those days, practice days,

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bring a camera, don't bring a GoPro, but you can bring a camera.

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And as I wanted to get all those early morning pictures with the sunlight and got on down

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there and it's just, you know, when you think of the masters, you know, I don't think there's

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any three hole stretch that's more iconic than that.

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And you know, right.

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You talk to anybody, they're like, yeah, that's, that's what I remember about, you know, the

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masters, you know, especially those three holes.

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So so when you're first of all, again, you know, we don't have to go hole by hole, but

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we could, we could spend three hours doing this podcast.

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Walk down number 10.

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You again, you've watched this since you were five years old or whatever.

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You can't describe number 10 to people as far as the, the, the decent, right?

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It's the coolest hole.

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I just want to play it.

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You know what I mean?

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I that number six, I just want to just go and just play it over and over and over again

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because of the elevation and the look that you get.

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I mean, the look up there is just beautiful.

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You're seeing everything and you're going right down into this Valley.

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That's encouraging you to play this beautiful draw.

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I just wish every hole was like that.

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I don't want to play 10 because I still play my fade TMAC.

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So I don't know how, I don't know how I draw it around the corner, but it was a pretty,

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you know, you can tell how the players can gain, you know, as you're watching them, they

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can gain 40, 50 yards with roll.

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They might carry it because they're hitting a lot of three woods off that 470 yard par

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four or whatever, but they roll in it 50, 40, 50 yards to some type of almost like not

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bottom of the hill, but you know, they're getting that down there.

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as the beauty and the drive that you've got there is that, you know, when you look at

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Rory's big nasty hook that he hit there, it's, I mean, it's hardly even a hundred yards.

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I mean, you know, the, the camera made it seem like, Oh, it's kind of down there a little

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bit, but when you look at it, you're like, Holy cow.

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He just, you know, he hit that in the cabbage.

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He snap hooked that thing.

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And those cabins are, are beautiful, but they're not in play.

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But for him on that day on number 10, they were in play cause he hit it that far left.

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And then, then, then seeing Bubba's shot, if you go down, I think you told me you did

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right.

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And now Bubba Watson hits the shot for the right, the right trees.

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We'll call it maybe 120 yards away.

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I think he was, but he's dead.

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He's got nothing.

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There's no way to even contemplate doing what he did.

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He's literally going out, you know, almost 90 degrees parallel to his target.

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And it's amazing because if he isn't left-handed, I don't think anybody can make that stroke.

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And obviously if you're not Bubba Watson, you would never even imagine that stroke.

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But it's, you know, you look at it and you look at the hole, you look back at it and

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you're like, who had the joystick on that?

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That's, that's a, that's a video game thing.

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So I think when you start looking at stuff like that, how much these guys are able to

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bend the ball and control their distance under that pressure.

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It's, I mean, you just, you're like, I have no chance.

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That's a great point.

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I mean, you go do that in a practice round, maybe, but to actually have the gumption to

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do it during the event to know that, and you know, he had to make that shot that really

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propelled him to the wind.

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And there's, there's lots of those instances.

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That's why it's such a great tournament.

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I mean, that's why it separates itself mostly.

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I'm going to say for me, but also I'm going to say probably for you now too, you, you

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US opens are unbelievable.

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Super hard PGA champions.

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Really cool.

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British opens great, fantastic, but they change courses every year.

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So you don't get that consistency of, do you remember where Phil Mickelson was on number

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13 when he hit the five iron out of the pine straw onto the green?

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Like you don't get that because you, you know what I'm saying?

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You know, there's, there's a, you know, such a rich history to go back to these iconic

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spots and see these shots, you know, because it does get, as you say, like the US open

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to the PGA championship, we remember the shot, but I guarantee you, nobody remembers the

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course.

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Uh, what whole, you know, half the time, but you know, at Augusta we've seen it so many

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times it's just burned in our memory.

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I were a golf enthusiast.

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We work in the industry, we make money, we pay our bills through this industry.

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I could not name you one of the last five US open golf courses, right?

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I just couldn't.

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I might be able to tell you who won them, but that's, it's still, I know kept his one

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a couple, but like there's not a memory, but I remember Scotty Scheffler.

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I remember, uh, you know, John Rom I remember obviously tiger in 2009, like you, you have

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that associated with almost the year.

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Oh yeah.

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Nicholson won twice.

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Like you just have that memory in your head because of the golf course, you know, the

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golf course and the, just the pageantry too.

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I mean, it's always, you always remember the guy that's getting the green jacket the year

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before.

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You know what I mean?

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There's just something about it.

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The whole thing just burns in your mind where, you know, like, I guess the only reason I

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remember the PJ championship is cause Colin Murr Calif left, you know, the top fell off

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and you just kind of remember that, you know what I mean?

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Or the us open that, uh, what's his name?

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One where he had bird guy run in front of them.

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Um, you know, those are the ones I kind of remember a little bit, but yeah, you know,

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the British open was John British British open with John Vandeveld making a triple on

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the last hole.

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Like, but that's not a positive memory.

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It's that, you know, that's, that's the thing is most of the time it's not a positive memory

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is why we bring, come back to those.

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Um, you know, so that's why I like about the masters is that it comes back, as you said,

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year after year to a tradition.

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Um, that's that, you know, it's just absolutely timeless.

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So try to explain to our listeners.

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So for me, one of the things when I get back up there and I will get back up there is almost

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every fairway is tilted the wrong way for the shot you're trying to hit.

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Right?

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So my, my examples are 14, 17, which are holes that kind of get, they kind of, because 13,

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15, you know, 16 or so iconic 12, obviously 11, 11 is even a one that I could just put

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in that category.

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On 14, it's a slight, slight dogleg to the left and the fairway is tilted to the right.

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Like, and it's just awkward.

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It's just awkward enough where you have to be so aware of what you're doing.

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So it's not just bomb it, you know, like Bryson, Bryson was doing a pretty good job of bombing

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it.

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He was, he was hitting some ridiculously.

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The drive he hits on 13 on Saturday, I've tried to explain that to people over the week.

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You, you understand it now because you've been there, but you can't describe that drive

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to people who have not been there to hit that ball over the trees on 13.

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Yeah.

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Over the 14th fairway into the trees between 14 and 15.

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Like yeah, it's just ridiculous.

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It's unbelievable, you know, and, you know, with Bryson doing stuff like that, it kind

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of comes back to the idea of what Fred really saying, you know, expanding the course a little

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bit, you know, but you know, what these guys are able to do, you know, like the shoot at

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18 to hit through that.

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I mean, that's a, that's a hotel hallway.

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Good luck with that.

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But Bobby did a great job or Allerson McKenzie did a great job of making sure that you had

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the opposite lie to the green that you were coming into.

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So if the slope was back to front or right to left, he puts you on a slope that was left

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or right.

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You had to, you had to work your ball.

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You just couldn't rely on the slope to make the turn for you.

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You had to have some, some talent, some club.

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Yeah.

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One of the holes that I think it's miss again, because they don't show it so much, but I

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think five is one of the great golf holes I've ever seen.

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What do you think about number five?

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Like tough.

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That's what I thought.

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Where do you go?

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Where do you drive it?

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Yeah.

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The bunkers and the fairway are ridiculously deep.

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You don't want to go in those bunkers and left.

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And then the green is arguably one of the hardest greens out there, which is a pretty

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good conversation to have, but it's, it's got two to three tiers to it, depending on

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kind of where you're landing the ball.

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But it's just not a hole that's shown a lot because it's always back nine and Augusta

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type of stuff.

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Like you said, from six on, you start kind of knowing eight to par five up the hill,

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but five is just such a great hole.

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That's just, that's one of those, I'd like to know what the, you know, part, like the

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scoring averages over par hole.

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It's not birdies.

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There's not, they're not making a ton of birdies in the hole.

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They're definitely trying to make a four and go.

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Yeah.

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Number five is, you know, I got back there and I took a look at number five.

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I watched Dustin Johnson play that hole and it's an absolute beast to get it out there

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to the fairway.

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You could hide a car inside those bunkers without a doubt.

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I saw one of the guys go in there and rake it and I was literally just seeing the top

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of his forehead.

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It's great.

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And I wouldn't say he was a tall guy, but he was a medium sized guy.

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And then, you know, the fall off on the green is just severe everywhere.

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I mean, it's just sloping, you know, severely to the left over there where everything kind

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of falls off and you've got, you know, you've got to hit it to a perfect zone because there's

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little zones on there.

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But yeah.

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And the slope is, if I remember right, was really right to left.

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So you've got to play a draw into something that might take a fade or something like that.

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Right.

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Right.

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I think there is.

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So again, from 2003 when I was there the first time, because number 11, I'm going to go back

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to 11.

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Sorry, we're skipping all over the place, but there's just so much cool history to talk

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about.

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So number 11 was not 515 yard par four when I got there in 2003.

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The reason it became that long was because of the tiger effect that, you know, that,

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that, like you said, Fred Ridley, they just wanted to, they didn't like when he shot what

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it was a 19 under or whatever the number was, like he set the scoring.

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Yeah.

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He smashed the scoring record.

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But, you know, so they, they just tried to make, so they've made, they've made 13 longer

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in the past two years because they bought land from Augusta country club, which is an

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interesting thing.

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I don't know.

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You probably saw that behind 12 and behind 13, there's this other ridiculously private

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fancy golf course right behind 12 and 13.

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And what they do is they, they wanted to make 13 longer.

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So they buy part of that property of the Augusta country club.

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And, and they decided to make it whatever it is, maybe five 30 now instead of four 90

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for number 13.

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But number, number 11 is hard enough is my point.

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Yeah.

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It doesn't need to be 505 yards down a hill with a huge pond near left with no bailout

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other than right, which is what you see on Sunday, they all bail out right in that green.

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They're going to trip it up.

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You know?

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Well, the, the big thing is, is when you take a look at number 11 and you look back at it,

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you've got this mound of pine trees to the right.

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Yeah.

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The slope is severely right to left.

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And most of the time what these guys are doing now is that they're trying to play this big

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massive cut to get up around the thing, which leaves them with a, with a very severe slope

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into it.

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And then you're looking at this tiny, not, I wouldn't say tiny little pond, but you're

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looking at this pond over there that's getting larger and larger as the slope continues on.

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So you'll see a lot of guys and I would too, I would just bail out to the right towards

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where number 12 is.

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You know what I mean?

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And I would just, you know, probably chili dip something onto the green and try to three

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putt.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's what I mean.

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The trees on the right that you're talking about 11, they weren't there.

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They weren't there 15 years ago.

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They put them in.

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Wow.

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And that's, that's amazing.

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Cause it just looks like they've been there for a thousand years.

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You know what I mean?

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Nope.

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Nope.

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After about 2004 is when they started planting them and then they basically brought them

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in at, we'll call it mature size.

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And they've become that in the past 10 years.

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Wow.

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Cause they just, it's just, you know, that they can do whatever they want.

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They shut down.

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I think it's, I think their membership only has access to the course for about three months

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out of the year.

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I think they shut down after the tournament and then basically they're open from maybe

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like July through September is what I've heard.

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I don't know if you heard anything from them.

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Yeah.

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That's what I've kind of heard from, you know, through the thing is that they're kind of

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open during the summer.

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Cause there's a lot of people that have been asking like, Hey, what about another tournament?

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But I think Augusta is set for television for, you know, that two, three week period

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of time where it's really looking what they want everybody to remember.

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Um, and I, you know, and you can tell when you looked at the course back in November,

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when they played it in November during COVID, it was beautiful, but it wasn't sparkling

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azaleas.

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It was, it was, you know, so I think when you talk to the guys at Augusta and Salias,

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they would love to have more tournaments there, but for what they want everybody to remember

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the masters for is it really only has that window of two, three weeks, maybe.

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Yeah.

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It's a, it's unique.

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I certainly encourage anybody and whoever you can, I know there's the lottery.

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I've purchased tickets for a lot of our members in the past or just friends on eBay and kind

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of these websites.

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I've gotten burned one time by the way.

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And so definitely be aware of who you're buying from.

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Um, you know, bought some tickets that weren't, that weren't real.

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Um, but yeah, it's just, I don't know how you do it anymore because the prices have

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escalated so much again in the past 10 years, basically.

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Um, well, the one thing I saw a lot of, and, um, you know, I wouldn't, I wouldn't encourage

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this, but this is what I kind of saw a lot of, uh, is people just kind of hanging around

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the exits because everybody can go in and out twice.

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So a lot of people, you know, you're coming on out and they're like, Hey, are you going

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back in and da da da da da?

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You know, so, um, Hey, I've got a number in my phone right now to you, Mac, I'm a scalper

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that I use every time, every time I'm in, in, in going to Augusta, I'll call them up

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two to three weeks prior.

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He'll tell me what the prices are.

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I'll call them up three days prior.

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He'll tell me what the prices are, but I know his tickets are valid.

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Yeah.

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You know, so I mean, it's, it is what it is.

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There's a certain distance that they have to stay away from the entrance.

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Um, but you will start seeing some guys, whatever that number is, you know, yardage away from

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the, from the entrance.

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But, uh, yeah, I saw quite a number of scalpers as I was going to, I think it's Washington

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or something like that as they're, they're coming on down and stuff like that.

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So, um, but Hey, you know, there again, you're, you're taking a risk.

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You could be giving some guy 1300 bucks and get to the gates and thank you.

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Um, but you know, um, there's a lot of cool things there.

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Um, number six, I thought was great too.

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It's a very elevated green or a very elevated tee box, uh, to a green down below, um, that

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little area out to the right where they put that Sunday, uh, pen placement.

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That's that's tough.

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And that's, if they're putting it within, you know, birdie link for that, then they

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hit an amazing shot.

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Right.

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Right.

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And you say that and it's like, again, like hard to describe it.

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Just a plateau on top of the, of the green, like the greens got two tiers, arguably maybe

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three cause the top left is even a slightly different tier than the bottom.

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But that top right pin where that plateau is, it's probably, what do you think?

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Maybe 20 by 20, like where they can hit it into.

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Yeah.

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I I'd say something like that.

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Probably six irons or seven irons.

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Like it's not a short hole.

464
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,800
No, it's, it's like 187.

465
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:29,800
Yeah.

466
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:30,800
Right.

467
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:31,800
186.

468
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:36,440
And you know, this control cut, you know, seven or six iron in there.

469
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,920
Um, and you've got to, it's got to stop too.

470
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:39,920
I mean, it's not one of those things.

471
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,160
You just kind of land it there and it'll stay there.

472
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,240
It's it, it don'ts off all around.

473
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:50,280
And that behind it is, is almost an acceptable miss, but then that's a really tricky little

474
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,840
punch up, whatever you're going to do from that grass to, to, cause you got to make sure

475
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,800
it doesn't go down the bottom because now you're making five or something.

476
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,480
If it ever happens to go down the bottom plateau.

477
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:01,480
So absolutely.

478
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,600
There's just so many unique, we haven't even gotten to 16 or tiger makes the chip.

479
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,480
Did you be able to get down there and see the guys skipping and stuff?

480
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:13,960
Well, my funny story about tiger is, is that, um, um, I went to go, they said they was going

481
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,040
to tee off at a certain time.

482
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,120
I can't remember what it was.

483
00:25:16,120 --> 00:25:19,680
So I got down behind one green thinking, Oh, I'll get back over here.

484
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,560
So he decided he was going to go to 10.

485
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:22,560
Okay.

486
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:23,900
We'll go to 10.

487
00:25:23,900 --> 00:25:28,400
So I'm chucking on down to 10 and he goes on by and I missed him at 10.

488
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,560
They say, Hey, he's a, where's he at now?

489
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,520
And I hear this huge roar and I guess he's skipping a ball over on 16.

490
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:35,520
Oh, okay.

491
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,920
So I jump on around, go to 16.

492
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:38,920
I say, where's tiger at?

493
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,400
And he says, he's done for the day.

494
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,740
So I think he only played two holes or a couple of shots and warmed up, but I did see his

495
00:25:46,740 --> 00:25:49,720
caddy out there marking the course, doing, doing his job.

496
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,640
But, uh, yeah, tiger didn't have much of a warmup on Monday.

497
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:59,440
No, no, it's, uh, he played well, you know, that Monday, that Friday round that he played

498
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,920
27 holes, people don't realize how good he played because that was the windy conditions

499
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:08,640
and the tough and they had to play 27 and he just, he played super solid that, that

500
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:09,640
Friday.

501
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:15,480
But I think almost him trying to make the cut and get that record of what is a 24 straight

502
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,760
25, 25 straight.

503
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,800
I think he, you know, he probably won't ever admit, but I think that meant something to

504
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:22,800
him.

505
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:27,000
So he, he put a lot of energy into Friday because Saturday and Sunday he was spent.

506
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,000
Yeah.

507
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,000
Yeah.

508
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,000
I agree with that.

509
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,000
Um, and I think, you know, we got to get to the, you know, when we talk about tiger's

510
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:39,160
round on Friday and, and, and the wind conditions, you also got to talk about, I mean, I walked

511
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,760
that course on Monday and when I got back home, I couldn't walk for the next two days.

512
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,720
So it's not, you know, it's like, it's like trekking the, uh, you know, the Appalachians.

513
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,760
I mean, it really is.

514
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:51,760
Yeah.

515
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:57,960
Um, so I mean, for him to have the problems that he has with his legs, uh, to play in

516
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:03,680
those cold windy conditions to walk that course is a true Testament.

517
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,040
And if you're not a true golf fan, then you know, find the door, get out of here.

518
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,480
Cause that was, that was impressive, man.

519
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,440
I mean, I know it wasn't, you know, it wasn't what we all wanted.

520
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:19,920
Uh, but, uh, it is a true Testament of how hard it is to do that.

521
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,900
What I heard from Thursday to Friday of the coverage was basically like, he had like six

522
00:27:23,900 --> 00:27:31,800
hours of, of spacing because he's got to get up around 3 a.m. to get ready for his 6 45.

523
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:36,000
He teed off at early like seven, seven, seven 15 or something Friday morning.

524
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,560
Cause he had to finish.

525
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,440
So it just kind of gets a bad draw as far as what happens, you know?

526
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,960
Um, but again, that's kind of one of the things we've, we talk about sometimes on our, on

527
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,280
our podcast, like the amount of work these guys put in prior.

528
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:55,240
Now he's doing extra cause of his physical limitations, but they're all, they don't,

529
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,080
they don't go from the car to the first tee like many of our listeners, right?

530
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,080
Correct.

531
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,000
Or like us every once in a while, not every once in a while, unfortunately is what we

532
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,040
do sometimes too.

533
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,440
You know, we, why does it take us three or four holes to warm up?

534
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:09,760
Because we're not going to the range.

535
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:15,600
We're not chipping, hitting cuts, you know, they, they're, they're, uh, he's exceptional

536
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:21,280
because of what he has to do with his body, but at the same time, every morning, six,

537
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:26,800
30, seven o'clock, you see those guys out there chipping, hitting balls.

538
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:32,080
To me as the golfer who's, you know, kind of a pretty good four handicap now, whatever.

539
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,800
I'm just like, you guys know how to hit a chip shot.

540
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,760
What are you still doing practicing every morning?

541
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:38,760
But guess what?

542
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:39,760
They're practicing every morning.

543
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:44,960
I, you know, and I think for them, you know, they're getting a feel, um, you know, they're

544
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,880
going through their routine, you know, when we talk to our clients, I mean, they're, as

545
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,480
you said, they're just, they're jumping in the cart.

546
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:56,360
They're, they're choking down a sandwich or they're juggling down Coke or something like

547
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:57,360
that.

548
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,500
Um, you know, the thing I think people need to understand is that how much they prepare,

549
00:29:01,500 --> 00:29:05,680
how much they practice and how much they put into like their nutrition and their sleep.

550
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,600
Um, you know, I, you know, it's amazing.

551
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,020
You know, I talked to some of my guys and I'm like, well, what are you kind of putting

552
00:29:11,020 --> 00:29:14,160
into your body or, or what do you, what type of practice?

553
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,880
And it's just a blank stare.

554
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:16,880
Like what do you mean?

555
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:17,880
We're supposed to do.

556
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:18,880
What do you mean?

557
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:19,880
You know?

558
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:20,880
Yeah.

559
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:26,720
So, you know, the, the, for him to go out there and, and to perform like that, um, and

560
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:31,080
get his body activated at three in the morning to three hours ahead.

561
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:35,920
I mean, God, we'd be happy if our guys got there 30 minutes ahead.

562
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:36,920
Yeah.

563
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:42,040
We, we, I know we sometimes sound like we're on the soapbox of golf lesson stuff, but it

564
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,880
is like you, you get what you put into it.

565
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:49,440
So when you tell your buddy, Hey, I took some lessons from Sean Klotz and you know what?

566
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:50,680
They really didn't help me.

567
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:57,000
How, how much did, how much did you put into practice after we did the lesson or, or did

568
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:02,840
you, did you go do like what we told you to do, which was okay for a month, you're just

569
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:07,340
going to go hit seven irons or less and you're just going to work on the one move and then

570
00:30:07,340 --> 00:30:08,640
come back for another lesson.

571
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:09,640
Yeah.

572
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:14,320
And then the instant gratification of the public in general on a lot of things in general.

573
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:20,640
Um, so yeah, maybe the lesson without being too negative is just if you want better results,

574
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,160
well then put more action into the, into the process.

575
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,160
Basically.

576
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,160
Absolutely.

577
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,480
You know, I mean, work on the small things.

578
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,160
As you said, you know, how many times, even when you're given a lesson, you're like, okay,

579
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,320
I just want you to hit this small little shot and you know, the third shot in there, full

580
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,720
swing and you're like, wait a minute.

581
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:44,200
You know, you know, so you, you know, you gotta put the practice, the discipline to

582
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,200
practice.

583
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:46,200
I think that's it.

584
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,040
So, um, you know, it's amazing what those guys are able to do.

585
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,280
And if you want to get to that next level that, you know, what do they all tell us?

586
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:54,280
I want to be consistent.

587
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,200
Well, those are the things that you have to do to be consistent, not just getting a lesson

588
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:03,640
for an hour and then, or 30 minutes and then hitting a shag ball and saying, okay, I'm

589
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,640
a scratch golfer.

590
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,920
That or going to the course and you know, expecting it to be in there, it's not in there

591
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:09,920
yet.

592
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,360
It's going to take you, you know, a month to get in there or just that move.

593
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:19,600
But, um, go into the consistency, go into that kind of, um, conversation.

594
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:20,600
It's been pretty impressive.

595
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:26,440
The last, what six weeks, what Nelly court Nelly quarter slash Scotty Schaeffler have

596
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,360
just done in the golf world.

597
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:29,360
Absolutely amazing.

598
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:30,360
Absolutely amazing.

599
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,760
Um, you know, just winning like crazy.

600
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:37,960
I mean, I think if Scotty Schaeffler would have, uh, uh, won that one in the middle at

601
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,040
Texas, he'd be on a five run.

602
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,440
And we'd be talking about Byron Nelson's record.

603
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,400
We'd be talking about tiger's record on, on consecutive wins.

604
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,700
Um, just amazing.

605
00:31:48,700 --> 00:31:51,800
And then you look at Nelly quarter, I think where she have five in a row or something

606
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:52,800
like that.

607
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:57,480
A major last week, like, and part of this, so two things.

608
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:04,160
So the, the, um, demeanor that they have on the golf course never, never changes.

609
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,360
They talk about that with Schaeffler quite a bit.

610
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,840
Um, and, and quarter, like they just don't get up and down, right?

611
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,440
They just, and that's when I play with golfers at my club, when you play with golfers, when

612
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:20,760
we're working with people, if, if you're going to get so mad, you know what, this might be

613
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:25,920
a good junior, this might be, I've been, we've been doing a lot of junior league camps and

614
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,440
kind of, uh, we also did caddy orientation at the golf course last week.

615
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:34,040
So I've been kind of hanging out with call like 12 year old to 16 year old kids a lot.

616
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:39,600
That's a little awkward as a 53 year old man to say, but in a golf world, in the golf world.

617
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:40,600
It's acceptable.

618
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:41,600
Right, right, right.

619
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,800
But you know, even like the, cause they're mimicking what they see on TV.

620
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:46,800
Absolutely.

621
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:47,800
Right.

622
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:52,680
So it's just, uh, my analogy right now would probably be the NBA basketball player.

623
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,620
It's hard to watch the playoffs because of how much they whine every time they think

624
00:32:56,620 --> 00:32:58,040
they get fouled.

625
00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,040
Yes.

626
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,400
And, and when you go to a pickup game on the side of it, you know, in a neighborhood and

627
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,720
you see the kids playing, it's similar.

628
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:11,640
So overall point again, not soapbox, not trying to get on that is if you're consistent with

629
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:17,160
your attitude and your demeanor and kind of your expectation level and take the game for

630
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,680
what it is, if you know, if the whole goal is to come out here, be friends with your

631
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:26,280
kids, have a little two to our game camaraderie, that's perfect.

632
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:27,280
No problems.

633
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:33,640
Just, but if the expectation as the 15, 16 year old golfer is to try to get to high

634
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:38,840
school golf and then college golf and then see what happens, your level has to be on

635
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,320
a same even kill.

636
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,720
You can't be up and down because you're, you're going to, you're going to create more strokes

637
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,520
on the golf course and shoot yourself into an 80 quicker than you're ever going to shoot

638
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,520
yourself into a 68.

639
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:51,520
Yeah.

640
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:56,320
Well, I think the big thing and what you're getting to is that if you keep that same demeanor

641
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:01,040
and I've been kind of doing a lot of studying research on this here recently, um, you get

642
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,080
to stay in what we call the zone, right?

643
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:07,820
I mean, you, you, you get to keep your mind at, you know, basically a good beta level

644
00:34:07,820 --> 00:34:10,400
where it's not too high, not too low.

645
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,800
Um, you know, we, we focus on the process.

646
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,520
We're not worried about the outcome.

647
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,600
Um, you know, the day's a joy, you know, we're kind of walking through everything just seems

648
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,920
to fall in place, the zone.

649
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:27,840
And I think that's what these guys are in ladies, I'm sorry, um, are able to do is that

650
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:33,500
they keep their, their mindset and their consistency and their attitude the same, which in turn,

651
00:34:33,500 --> 00:34:38,920
I think just keeps their mind, uh, you know, not racing around and getting panicky and

652
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,720
worrying about the results as much as they are about the process.

653
00:34:42,720 --> 00:34:43,720
Yeah.

654
00:34:43,720 --> 00:34:47,880
They, they, and they, with all that being said, both those players are talking about

655
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:53,760
and I've seen it in the last two weeks, their short game is if not the best on tour, one

656
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,460
of the top 10 or whatever.

657
00:34:55,460 --> 00:35:01,040
So they never really get themselves into too much trouble because they can get up and down

658
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,040
if they get in trouble.

659
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,040
It makes sense.

660
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,040
Oh yeah.

661
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,040
Oh yeah, absolutely.

662
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,280
And the big thing I think for Scotty Scheffler is I think he always had that, but now he's

663
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,560
starting to see the putts roll in and adios folks.

664
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:12,560
I'll see you later.

665
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:13,560
Yep.

666
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:14,560
Yep.

667
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,160
His confidence grows and that happens to you and me when we play too.

668
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:23,320
You know, if we make the first five footer on the first hole, we're going to start feeling

669
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,420
good about making putts throughout the round.

670
00:35:25,420 --> 00:35:29,440
If we miss the first one, we, you know, it may not be as smooth as it might take us a

671
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,680
few more holes to get going.

672
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:36,640
But I played with a gentleman yesterday, kind of a classic, I want to say like a classic

673
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,200
7.58 handicap golfer.

674
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,200
Okay.

675
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:44,480
He's one under through six and he always says to me on the six screen, he goes, oh,

676
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,240
he goes, I have not been one under through six.

677
00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:50,240
Almost ever.

678
00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:52,920
And he goes bogey, bogey, bogey, right?

679
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,520
He finishes up two over and I said to him walking off number nine, I said, hey, if I

680
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,040
tell you, you shoot 38 on the front side, are you happy?

681
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,240
Oh yeah, I'd be happy.

682
00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:02,000
But now I'm not mad because I went bogey.

683
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,000
No, no, no.

684
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,160
You don't get to have a bogey.

685
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:09,920
If you, if your goal is to shoot two more, you know, two less than your handicap or to

686
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:14,360
break 80 or whatever those numbers that you're trying to do, you know, you've got to treat

687
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:20,320
it like in the, the kind of, again, as we were talking, those last three holes on number

688
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,320
eight, he had to drive dead left.

689
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,200
He hits his, makes his first bogey on seven.

690
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,200
So he's back to even.

691
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,000
That's fine for an eight handicap after seven holes.

692
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,000
Yeah.

693
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,680
He hits his drive dead left, into some trees.

694
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,440
He's like, oh, I got this window.

695
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,560
And I said, no, no, no, you don't have a window anymore, sir.

696
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,760
Your goal is to make bogey at this point.

697
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,080
There's no more window.

698
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,080
You got to pitch out.

699
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,280
You got to hit the ball on the front on the green and two putt and make five and they

700
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:47,280
move on.

701
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,480
And he did it and he made the five.

702
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,960
But I think if I wasn't there, he would have tried some three hybrid around the corner

703
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:53,960
or something, you know,

704
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:54,960
Correct.

705
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:55,960
Correct.

706
00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:00,120
You know, and, but it gets back to what you're talking about with practice.

707
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,480
Even that guy gets into trouble.

708
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,240
If he gets, you know, up to in front of the green and he's working on his short game,

709
00:37:05,240 --> 00:37:09,980
other than the range game, you know, you give yourself, you know, especially like Scotty

710
00:37:09,980 --> 00:37:10,980
and Nellie now.

711
00:37:10,980 --> 00:37:15,560
And if they get themselves in trouble, they don't try to take off more than they can chew.

712
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,640
And I think that's the big thing for our listeners to understand is, is play manageable golf,

713
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:24,000
put it, you know, 50 yards outside of the green or 25 yards away from the green, give

714
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,200
yourself a chance for that par.

715
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,200
But you're right.

716
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,320
If he would have gone with a hybrid, I mean, we're looking at, we're bringing in double,

717
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:36,040
triple, or, you know, maybe this is, this is my last little thing I'll say about all

718
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:40,840
the Scotty Schaeffler, Nellie quarter, mental strength to it is.

719
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:41,920
And I didn't even know this stat.

720
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,040
I just was watching the last four or five weeks with Schaeffler.

721
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:50,000
I said to my friend, I'm like, you know what he does better than anybody right now is he

722
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,400
makes a bogey.

723
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:52,400
His next hole is a birdie.

724
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:57,400
And I didn't realize he led the tour in that stat, which is literally bogey after birdie

725
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:58,400
stat.

726
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,200
We usually call it in reverse, right?

727
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,360
We call it the ABFU, the PBFU.

728
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,560
We can't say it on air, but the post birdie screw up type of thing.

729
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,800
Well, we, we call it the bounce back stat, right?

730
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,440
I mean, that's what, that's what we call it, right?

731
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,440
But we know what it is though.

732
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:15,440
Yeah.

733
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:16,440
But he does it the other way, right?

734
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,880
Which is that's the, that's what Tigger, that's what Tiger had.

735
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,840
So much better.

736
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:26,040
And now they're starting to, they see him on the leaderboard in quarter, sure.

737
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,840
I'm so it's the same way.

738
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,840
Like, Oh, yeah.

739
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,200
I can't catch him.

740
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:37,160
I mean, court is winning by large margins to walking away with victories.

741
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,160
Yeah.

742
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,480
You know, Scotty's doing the same too.

743
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,360
And they're not, you know, the thing is that not just winning like, you know, the Puerto

744
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,000
Rican open, you know what I mean?

745
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:51,320
They're winning, you know, the Bay Hill majors and, and, uh, you know, the players and stuff

746
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:52,320
like that.

747
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:57,660
They're winning at the highest level that they can and performing just admirably.

748
00:38:57,660 --> 00:39:00,440
And our stats show it when you look at their stats.

749
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,920
I don't know in my lifetime, I'm sure it's happened.

750
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:03,920
I just don't remember it.

751
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,500
Cause again, I said it to somebody this week.

752
00:39:05,500 --> 00:39:09,680
I don't remember when a master's winner won the next week.

753
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,200
Cause typically they take that week off.

754
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,440
Cause it's so much, you know, press media coverage.

755
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,480
You're so invested in that tournament.

756
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:18,880
I don't see them usually going out.

757
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:24,240
And he, it's funny cause on Thursday at the RBC, he, he shanked the ball out of the bunker

758
00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:27,440
on and he made like a double, but guess what?

759
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,000
He did the next solid made birdie.

760
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,000
Yeah.

761
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,360
And then I look up on Sunday and he's 20 under par.

762
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:33,360
And I'm like, what?

763
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,520
How did he, he was two over on Thursday afternoon at like four holes into it.

764
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:38,520
Yeah.

765
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,240
I mean, he does a great job of whatever mistake he makes.

766
00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:43,720
He just doesn't carry the baggage over the next hole.

767
00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:47,880
And it's just a brand new hole and it's looking for a birdie every time.

768
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,880
I mean, just unflappable.

769
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:55,760
And there is gotta be some shout out to the caddies to both of their caddies are perfectly

770
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,400
set for their personalities, bringing them along.

771
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:04,700
That is that caddy, you know, player relationship that Nicholas had with his caddy that basically

772
00:40:04,700 --> 00:40:06,240
tiger had with Stevie.

773
00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:12,640
You know, that was like those both guys are, those guys are both like fired up super exciting,

774
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,080
you know, super excited people, Stevie and tiger.

775
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,240
So perfectly fit for that 10 year category.

776
00:40:17,240 --> 00:40:18,240
Yeah.

777
00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:20,800
But Ted Scott is a, is the even keel.

778
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,320
Don't get, you know, don't get out of your way type of thing.

779
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:24,880
Keep staying in the moment.

780
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,160
And, and it's just, it's, it's cool to watch right now.

781
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,360
Everybody told me yesterday, it was like, ah, it's kind of boring.

782
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,320
I kind of don't like watching Scotty anymore.

783
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:33,320
Like what?

784
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,800
You got Larry Bird in your presence.

785
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,640
You got Michael Jordan in your presence.

786
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:38,640
Watch it.

787
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,000
I mean, it's like watching a no hitter.

788
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,280
I mean, you might not be watching home runs, but you're watching a no hitter guys.

789
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,640
Let's get in and bunker in and watch this.

790
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:52,240
You're watching something at the highest level that, you know, we rarely get to see, you

791
00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:55,000
know, and when we do, we should get very excited about it.

792
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:59,520
And so the big lesson for the audience is figure out how to bring some of that into

793
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,920
your game, whatever that is, you know, whatever that piece is that you can see when you watch

794
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,920
those guys, I don't care about his right foot moving.

795
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,200
Doesn't matter through impact.

796
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,040
He's as good as anybody.

797
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,200
He just looks a little different at the end.

798
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:17,680
Um, but it's a great, it's obviously a very, very structurally beautiful golf swing.

799
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:22,200
I mean, when you look at his path to the face to path, I mean, he keeps that, that face

800
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,120
square for so long.

801
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:26,680
Um, it's, it's unbelievable.

802
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:31,120
You know, I mean, we, we teach, you know, a little face rotation cause most of our students

803
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,120
just leave the face wide open.

804
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,120
Right.

805
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:38,200
But he does a great job of, you know, pretty much six inches before to six inches after

806
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,200
that.

807
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:44,280
That club is just absolutely square and just, you know, railroad tracks down the middle

808
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:45,280
every time.

809
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,280
I like, I like how his arms and a quarter does this to court has got the, we'll call

810
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,920
the more classic, beautiful, you know, simple golf swing.

811
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:58,000
Um, but I love how both of them, and again, good, good sign of good players, their arms

812
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:05,160
stay away from their bodies a long, long time, you know, set up wise, back swing wise at

813
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,920
impact wise, follow through wise.

814
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:12,720
And again, for what we teach from people that come to us, Hey, I want some more distance.

815
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:15,920
Well, if you want more distance, you have to have extension.

816
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:16,920
Correct.

817
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:21,520
You can't have your arms coming, your hands coming close to your body after impact, you

818
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,960
know, before impact, after impact, you got to extend your arms.

819
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:29,800
Think about the fighter, you know, the best fighters have had good extension with our

820
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:30,800
arms.

821
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:31,800
They've never had short arm.

822
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:36,800
And, uh, that's maybe a good takeaway for our guys, you know, guys and girls to take

823
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,200
away for their, their weekend practice or whatever.

824
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:40,200
Yeah.

825
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,160
I mean, you got to keep the hand path, you know, as I have, I always taught, you know,

826
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,760
keep your hands as far away from your sternum as possible.

827
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:46,760
Yeah.

828
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:51,680
So, um, you know, if, if you're, if your hands start, your radius to your sternum starts

829
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:57,000
getting a little shorter than the elbow start moving in the, the low point starts moving.

830
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,120
Um, so I've always just kind of, you know, kept with the idea of keeping my hands as

831
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,720
far away from my sternum as I can.

832
00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:08,720
And just thinking of width, same sport or a different sport, right?

833
00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:13,720
Tennis, baseball, like those sports are all the same way you, the best servers don't have

834
00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:15,000
their arms close to them.

835
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,600
Like it's always baseball, you've got to get your arms extended to be able to hit the

836
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:19,600
home run.

837
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,320
So just, just relate that to the golf swing.

838
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:26,520
If you just went and worked on maybe to tie up all this conversation, if you just went

839
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:32,440
and worked on that with a seven iron for a month and just did that, you would, you'd

840
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,160
be a better driver of the golf ball by June period.

841
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:41,000
Like, you know, you, you, it's kind of transfer into the other parts of your game.

842
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,000
Absolutely.

843
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,000
Absolutely.

844
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,000
Absolutely.

845
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:49,200
So, well, um, John, um, I appreciate it.

846
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:50,600
I had a great time today.

847
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:55,000
Um, I think the viewers got a good snapshot of what Augusta was today.

848
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,040
Um, kind of, you know, some of the little insides and outsides and Nellie Korda and

849
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,400
Scotty Scheffler and their consistency.

850
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:07,440
Um, so anything you would like to add before we, uh, break for today's session?

851
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,680
No, just, you know, just kind of have a purpose when you go practice, you know, think about

852
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:12,680
something.

853
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,440
You know, just don't just go out there and hit balls.

854
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:18,200
There's a big difference between hitting balls and going out there and having a purpose with

855
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:19,200
it.

856
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,200
So, you know, watch the people on TV, they're up there for a reason.

857
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:26,080
And then, uh, if you ever have a chance, don't turn it down, get to Augusta.

858
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,080
Absolutely.

859
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,080
Absolutely.

860
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,880
So, uh, want to thank everybody for listening.

861
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:35,840
Uh, this is your cohost, Tim McElvanagh, uh, and my fellow co-host, Sean Klotz.

862
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:36,840
Great talking to you guys.

863
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:37,840
Look forward to the next one, team.

864
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:38,840
All right.

865
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,280
We'll see you guys next Friday and we'll talk to you soon.

866
00:44:41,280 --> 00:45:08,040
Thank you.