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Sit back and get ready to take off with dynamic golf.

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Hey team Mac, how you doing today?

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Doing great, Sean.

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How are you doing today?

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Good, man.

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Good.

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We're taking a little break from our podcast for a second.

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We thought we'd kind of talk about the place we do some of our teaching down here at One

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Stop Golf Club.

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Great facility.

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You know, if you're somebody, especially during the winter time, I find this to be a great

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facility with the weather being what it is, being cold.

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It is such a treat to come inside, play a round of golf, or give a lesson, whatever

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it may be, but it's just a great atmosphere, especially during the winter time, to come

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in and play.

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So for $60 a month for our base membership, you know, it's a great value.

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Great value.

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I mean, think about all the other memberships people are paying for for real golf courses,

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struggling to get tee times, $60 a month.

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I mean, you're going to pay $40 just for a round of golf, right?

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So here for $20 more, you can play virtually every day if you wanted to on a different

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course every day.

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Unlimited.

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Unlimited play.

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I mean, I just think it's a great deal, great value.

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And from the teaching perspective, and you know, when we say teaching, we actually mean,

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hey, you come in and work on your own game.

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You can see a lot of numbers on Trackman.

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Absolutely.

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It's such a good way to be able to work on club head speed, trying to improve that.

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Or if you're trying to have trouble with your, you know, the face is going left, but you

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think your face is going left on the range, but you can actually see the numbers with

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Trackman.

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Driver is great in here because of the spin rate numbers and how to.

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So it's a great facility for you guys to come in and use on your own, but then also obviously

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to come down and get a lesson from Team Acre for myself.

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Absolutely.

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It's $60 a month, one stop golf shop, FL.com.

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That's our website.

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Easiest way is to really just go on that website.

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If you want to contact me, Sean Klotz, the owner at Lake Bernadette, you can do that.

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Or Tim Malkovana has Swing Theory Golf.

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We've both been doing lessons in here.

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And like you said, winter time, you know, it's dark at six o'clock now.

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So I've been doing a lot of lessons at six now.

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Yeah.

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It works well for the people who have to work from nine to five.

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Correct.

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There's that working guy, you know, and it's nice to be able to come inside because there

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is no driving range really around the area that has lights.

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So having a facility that you can practice at, teach at, and having all the toys that

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we have here is absolutely amazing.

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I just find that for a teaching standpoint, you can get to the issue that the student

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has so much quicker, identify that issue, and you're giving them tangible data.

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It's just not a shot in the dark or, hey, this is my opinion out on the range, right?

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This is real data that we're using to improve your game.

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So the cameras that we have in here, the data that we have in here, I just find it so easy

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to help improve our students at a very rapid rate.

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Perfect example, I had a gentleman come in at eight o'clock this morning because he's

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got to go to work, you know, at nine o'clock.

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And we did a half hour session.

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He's got some stuff to work on for the week.

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And now he knows what to work on.

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That's the whole key of our teaching in general is to have a plan when you go on the golf

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course on the range rather than, which is what he said to me.

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I watch a lot of videos on YouTube.

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I'm like, well, that's great, but nothing's really relevant to what you're doing.

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You do the things you do.

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So from the club perspective, $60 a month for the individual membership, $130 for a

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full membership.

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And then again, we've got a Bluetooth speaker here.

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We've got a TV that's got all kinds of TV channels, sports channels on it if you want

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to.

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So it's a place to practice, but it's also a place to enjoy yourself, entertain, have

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fun, bring in your own food, clean up after yourself, which is what you always ask.

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But the members have been great.

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The members have been great.

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So really nice facility in Wesley Chapel just outside of Zephyrh Hills.

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Very easily findable.

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www.one-stopgolfshopfl.com.

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Sean Klotz.

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Tim McElvanagh, swingtheorygolf.com.

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That's it.

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So thank you guys very much and come on down and see us.

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I thought it would be interesting.

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We talked about it a couple of weeks ago, but like, you know, we've been interviewing

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different people from the golf community, but I'm not sure the listeners and kind of

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the viewers kind of know who we are.

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You know, we kind of obviously throw out our teaching philosophies and some of the things

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we've done in our past.

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I thought it'd be nice to kind of get like a good in-depth look at what you've done and

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kind of where you're coming and where your goals are and that type of stuff.

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So basically first question I might have for you and the viewers is how'd you get into

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golf?

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Like did you start when you were young or how'd you get into the game?

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So as a kid, I started when I was about five years old.

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When I was a little guy, my dad was a struggling attorney.

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My mom was a secretary of life, it's Pasco.

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And he would take me up to a driving range up in Bushnell, which had a driving range

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and it had one of those old, you know, had a batting cage, but had one of those old arms

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that went like this, so it would throw the ball.

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And he would sit over there in the corner and he would read the Wall Street Journal

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every time.

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He was a stockbroker as a trade and a very good accomplished golfer.

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And he taught me three things that I think I still work with today, at least two of them.

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One was the grip and two was he'd always told me to place a pole from my head to my rear

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end and rotate around that, which to be honest with you, we still use to this day.

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Yeah, some of the simple things, right?

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Correct.

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And still work.

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Did you play a lot of sports when you were growing up and you were a baseball player?

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Yeah, I played a lot of baseball, played soccer, played football, you know, tried every sport

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that I could.

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Tried tennis.

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I was terrible at that.

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So, you know, my parents really encouraged me to play a lot of different types of sports

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and stuff like that.

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Baseball was my main love at that time.

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And that was really all I had there.

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And you went to Zephyr Hills High School?

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Yes, sir.

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Graduated in 95.

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Played all four years on the varsity baseball team.

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Starting center fielder from there all four years.

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Did you have any prospects to go play college and now you went to USF?

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Abbey.

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I was up there for two years.

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I think I got a little homesick.

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I came on back home and then enrolled into PHCC at the time and then transferred to USF.

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And then, you know, we've worked together obviously in the past and stuff and obviously

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good friends and sort of, I know you've done a lot of different jobs in the golf industry.

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And you've kind of been from maintenance to head pro to general manager to cart guy to

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hot dog man like we do all the time.

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I think there hasn't been a spot in the golf industry I haven't worked.

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And I think that gives me a great perspective, you know, when I talk to other people in the

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golf industry is that if it's the maintenance guy or if it's the bartender behind the bar

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or if it's the guy behind the shop, I've done all those jobs before and I can kind of relate

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to their frustrations and what they're trying to do.

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But, you know, golf is one of those things and I think you know it very well, you've

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got to wear a lot of hats.

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You know, especially as a general manager or head pro, you've got to, you know, fill

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in a lot of gaps at times.

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It's something that reminds me of that all the time is PGA school, you got your class

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A PGA card a couple years ago, I think.

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Yeah, two and a half, three years ago now.

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So basically when you go to PGA school and kind of get your, they've changed it up to

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course curriculum but basically you used to go level one, level two, level three.

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And you have to like physically go to the sites or whatever but I remember PGA level

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one, kind of like one of the old school mentor guys who's kind of leading the lecture.

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You know, and you go into this classroom and there's a list, he's got this list of PGA

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duties.

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And it's like 54 items long.

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Golf cart technician, right?

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Again, how to fix the toilets.

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Hey, maybe if you're a little bit of a teaching pro that's good, you get that concept.

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Can you read a P&L statement?

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Like there's just so many things.

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So many things.

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And I think the public doesn't understand how much the golf pro and what he does behind

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the scenes.

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You know, they just think that we take tee times and give lessons and just sit in the

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office.

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Or play.

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Or play.

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Oh yeah, they think we're always playing.

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It used to be, right?

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That's a concept that used to be and I think that's changed a little bit with some of the

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corporate ownership of places that they almost don't, they don't want you to play.

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No, they want you to stay, you know, tied more to the office, more customer relations

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and stuff like that.

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And it is kind of a shame because, you know, a lot of people get into this industry because

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they are good golfers and their game certainly diminishes as they get into it.

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But it is definitely, you know, a job where you've got to wear a lot of hats.

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You know, and people pay for it.

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So again, being friends the last 15 years or whatever, I think you've kind of, to me,

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maybe found your niche.

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Is that a good way to say it?

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Absolutely.

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And kind of what led to that over the last three, four years that you kind of started

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your own company with Swing Theory Golf?

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You know, just for me, you know, I think having so many different jobs in the industry, you

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kind of figure out what is best for you.

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What, you know, when you go home at night, what job do you do that gives you the least

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frustration when you come home?

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Or what you're good at, by the way.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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What are you good at, you know?

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And I found that my skill set in the world of golf was more teaching.

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I'm just, I've tried the general manager, I've tried the head pro and stuff like this.

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I'm just not a person that is going to be in the pro shop very much.

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I like being out on the range, I like being outdoors.

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And I've always been that way.

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You know, even in school, I was always the kid that was running to the door for P.E.

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or trying to get out or anything like this.

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So I'm doing much more.

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You did maintenance for Jovita.

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I did maintenance for Jovita.

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I started with Saddlebrook at 16 as my first job doing maintenance there under Al Schramm,

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an old name if you guys know him.

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And just, I enjoyed everything about the golf industry, just being out there on the course.

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You know, I think there's just something about it, especially early in the morning,

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when you get on out there and you see the dew and you see the sunrise come on up,

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there's something very special about that.

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Even the nighttime when we play the leagues during the summer, very cool,

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very fun to see the sun going down.

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Me and you have both played a million rounds of golf.

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We're trying to get in, trying to rush in the last four balls.

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Oh, yeah, we're getting in and dark, you know.

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I can't tell you how many times we've come up Silverado at 18 and it's pitch dark.

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That's exactly right, exactly.

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So you developed your own company, essentially started your own company.

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So tell us, talk to us.

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So I developed a company called Swing Theory Golf.

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And what it is is basically my teaching platform to help people, you know,

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better with the game of golf.

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I envision it being, you know, a full-size academy way down the road, you know,

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someplace where it has instructors.

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We have, you know, mental specialists, nutritionists and stuff like that.

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But right now it's just kind of the cornerstone of just getting it to just me, myself,

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and getting really understanding of, you know, what works best for teaching people,

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you know, my philosophies and all that as I try to build this corner around

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and try to build it up.

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So not in a good or bad way, but there's many instructors that have like,

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almost like you have to do it their way type of thing.

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I think some of the better instructors are the ones that kind of work with the player

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and adapt our philosophy, our theory to them.

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Again, when you're going through PGA school, there's some principles and laws about,

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hey, you can't grip the club like this.

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You have to put your hands together in some fashion, overlap or interlock,

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whatever that is.

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So do you have, I guess maybe again, philosophy-wise, is there either,

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who do you like to teach best or what, like, do you prefer certain, you know,

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age groups, skill sets, skill levels, and it's fine to say, hey,

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I like working with juniors, I like working with more skilled players,

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like whatever that is, or are you pretty comfortable with all

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and you can kind of work with it around all?

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Well, with me living in Zephyrhills, you know, our main clientele is going to be

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older retirements and beginners.

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And to be honest with you, I've really found a great niche with that.

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I enjoy working with beginners.

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I've worked with some elite players, but there's something about when that

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beginner hits that first good shot and they turn around with that,

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oh, God, look, you know they're hooked.

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They're absolutely hooked and they're going to chase that feeling that they got

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there for the rest of their life.

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And you know that you've made a call for your industry.

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Where, not that I don't like working with elite players, they're great,

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but they're going to play the game for the rest of their life anyway.

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You know what I mean?

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So for me to bring a new person into our industry, into our game,

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is really my main philosophy or goal.

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The rest is, as you said, it's just principles and rules and laws and setup.

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And just, you know, try to get them as comfortable as they can with their setup.

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I think it's really the big philosophy for it.

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And then, you know, work on the swing as it goes through.

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But just making sure that I work with beginners and get them comfortable on the

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course and enjoying the game is my main goal.

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Yeah, that's great.

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And there's so many new people getting into the game.

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Yeah.

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For the last three or four years, you're probably seeing a little uptick in that.

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Oh, absolutely, absolutely.

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There's a lot of, you know, a lot of ladies, beginning ladies,

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wanting me to introduce them to the game of golf, which I absolutely enjoy.

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I mean, I think a lot of pros kind of, you know, steer away from that because

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they're not the elite player.

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They're not going to have that beautiful swing on the range where everybody's

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looking at them.

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I think if you can just get away from all that and just understand that you're

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working with somebody one-on-one in that little bubble and making them better,

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that's all I care about.

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Yeah.

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I think from that perspective, just kind of that, we'll call it, you know,

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middle to senior level golfer, maybe some ladies, maybe some guys.

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To me, what I've experienced is there's a lot of people that have either sat in

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an office for 30 years, so they sat down.

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Yeah.

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Right?

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So their flexibility isn't what it should be.

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Correct.

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Might be, you know, a little out of shape.

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It might be whatever that is.

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Maybe just not have the muscle mass like the elite players have.

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So they don't know what they don't know.

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Correct.

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That's my point, right?

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Correct.

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They don't know that they're supposed to turn a certain way.

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Yeah.

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Right?

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They're trying to do it with their arms instead of their turn.

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Yeah.

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So whatever those things are that really end up, like you said, they get that look

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on their face when they hit the good shot.

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Correct.

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You know?

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Yeah.

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That's what brings them back.

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That's what gets you as excited as a teacher.

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Absolutely.

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I think that's the most excitement you have is when they hit that ball and they

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look around to you.

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And you just, you know, it's kind of like for me, I've got a five-year-old home when

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they open up that first Christmas gift and they're, that whole shock.

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I just, I want to have that.

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I'm addicted to that.

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Right.

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To be honest with you.

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So.

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Do you like teaching driver versus irons versus short game versus putting?

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Like, is there something of those four or five or even mentally, you know, course maintenance

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or course management?

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Like, kind of give us what you feel.

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I like honing personally into the short game and into course management.

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I think there's, personally for me, I think that's where more of the scoring is going

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to happen for the player.

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But you know, just as well as I do, everybody wants to hit the long ball or the iron or,

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you know, have some understanding of how to hit those.

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And just in the lesson today that you had, giving the guy a perspective of hitting up

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on the driver.

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You know, I think, you know, giving him some kind of understanding of, you know, drivers

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are up and irons are down or, you know, major, you know, things like that.

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So.

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To me, it's like, to me, I've been teaching since, and I got my card in 2003, but probably,

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you know, secretly teaching since 98 or whatever, you know, we're just taking money on the

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side.

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But, so let's say that 25 years, like, it's almost like Groundhog Day every day to me.

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Meaning like you just got a new batch of people.

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Yeah.

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And had it this morning with actually one of our guests, Tom White.

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Okay.

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And he's like, I'm in here at 8 o'clock talking about some chipping stuff.

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And like me and you, and I'll say it this way, and I think you see this when you teach.

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What we think is obvious is not obvious.

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Correct.

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That make sense?

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Yes.

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So like what we think, hey, you should, when you chip, the club face should go towards

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the target.

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Yeah.

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Tom, who's a very accomplished player, hadn't heard that before.

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Yes.

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Right?

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So I think those are some of the things that are cool to be able to share with people.

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Yeah.

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And to get them, again, we sometimes, like we blow by it in a lesson.

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Yeah.

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That make sense?

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Yeah.

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And you know, it's funny that you say that, I mean, because we'll get to the point of

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just like the grip and the stance.

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And you'll look at the guy and you're like, wow, this is a lot to take in.

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And you're like, this is just that part of it.

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That's it.

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I mean, we've got this much more to go.

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And it really is true.

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We do take it for granted that these people are learning it for the first time.

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You know, they're really, they're trying to take this all in.

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Yeah.

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And really there's times where it's 35, 40 minutes just working on grip and setup.

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And it's tough because you've got the engine behind you going, I want to go, I want to

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teach them more about the swing, but you've got to slow down to their pace.

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Yeah.

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You know, I think that's the big thing is that you've got to understand that you've

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got to teach them at their own pace.

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Yeah.

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And they have, I mean, the fundamentals of it, like, again, there's a reason why it's

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PJ Laws, PJ Fundamentals.

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And then they're sort of like, hey, you can do some things differently in this part of

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the swing.

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Right.

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To make different things happen.

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Correct.

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You don't always have to be exactly, because even now, even now on the PJ Tour, no two

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golf swings are the same.

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Yeah.

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We saw that more 20, 30 years ago with the difference between Jack Nicholas on the Palmer

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Gary player Lee Trevino.

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Yeah.

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Ray Floyd.

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Those five golf swings are completely, they look different.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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But Jim Furyk looks different even though he's kind of past his prime now.

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But he's literally probably the best ball, or one of the best ball swingers.

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One of the best ball swingers of all time.

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Yeah.

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So he took the eight.

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Mr. 58.

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I mean, come on.

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Right.

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So his takeaway looked odd compared to the traditional Adam Scott, Tiger Woods, you know,

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the Luke Donald, the guys who just look so precise with it.

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Oh, perfect.

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Yeah.

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But it does come down, okay, you can do some different things, but when you get back down

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to impact, these are the things that we're going to make sure of it.

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Correct.

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So again, if you're a grip, we'll just keep going with the grip.

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If your grip is like this, so to me, when I get the guy who's got the grip really strong,

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right, that's when you say, that's the hard one to change.

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Yeah.

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Because most people don't come in this way.

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No.

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They're usually this way because they're either hockey players, baseball players, whatever.

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Yeah.

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So those are the ones where, again, as your students, this is kind of what I like to know

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from you, but as your students, you're like, okay, yeah, yeah, I got the grip.

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Can we talk about the back swing?

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No.

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No.

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We've got to stay on this point right here.

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I definitely see that, especially with the grip.

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I see so many different grips, and the old saying is, when I was coming through the PGA,

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and it's changed now since I started to wear them, is that if you change a grip, you lose

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a customer.

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Right?

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I mean, you'd never, the whole thing, and then at the end of my PGA thing, they said

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that if you don't check somebody's grip, you're not worth a darn as an instructor.

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So you're kind of like this.

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But I really do believe that the first thing you should start with is the grip.

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Right?

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Just look at the grip, make sure that's correct, and then everything else behind the line.

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It's funny you say that, because you'll get the customer, the client, who is so averse

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to changing grip.

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And I think that to me is sort of the better player, that 10 to 15 handicap who is trying

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to get down to eight or seven.

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And they're so used to their grip, and they don't want to change.

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Right?

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The lady, the senior, the starter, the beginner, the junior, you can kind of get down, okay,

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hey, this is, you know, we're going to start with the club, we're going to grip it from

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here, and then, it's almost the starting, they don't have any bad information.

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Correct.

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But the guy who's got eight handicap, who's been getting it around the golf course with

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the bad grip, and wants to stop hooking it and hitting it low, hey, we've tried all the

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other things.

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Right?

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We've tried all the other tools in the trade.

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Correct.

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And if you don't, and if you don't start with this one, so we're not always talking about

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just grip, but we're just using grip as the example.

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Correct, correct.

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You know, you've got to, you know, it's tough with good players, single digit handicaps

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to change those certain things, because they have a certain belief in their mind.

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And it's funny that you'll go to some, you know, they'll tell you what they think's wrong

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with their swing, right?

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Right.

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And then you visualize it and you see it, and then you tell them something that wasn't

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even on the map to them, right?

489
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,760
And it's tough for them to kind of come around and say, this is what you need to do.

490
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,760
It's not what you think it is.

491
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:11,760
Right.

492
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:12,760
It's this root problem right here.

493
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:13,760
Right, right.

494
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,760
And that's the toughest, you know, that you get from it, especially with the lower handicaps.

495
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:18,760
Yeah.

496
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,760
And I talked to you, we talked about that on a podcast a couple months ago where I went

497
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:22,760
to get a lesson from Tim Poults.

498
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:23,760
Mm-hmm.

499
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:24,760
Right?

500
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,760
I thought, there was this going on in my golf swing, and he didn't even come close to that.

501
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:27,760
It was something totally different.

502
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:28,760
Right.

503
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:29,760
And it was back to grip for the record.

504
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:30,760
It was actually back to grip.

505
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:31,760
Hey, you're too weak.

506
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:36,760
Your left hand's too weak, and you're not holding on to the club face, it's going to

507
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,760
move it up and down, and you're weak grip, and the ball's going to go right.

508
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,760
So strengthen your grip up, or literally strengthen the pressure.

509
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,760
And I think that's a sign of a good instructor.

510
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:46,760
Yeah.

511
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,760
Somebody that's able to see the things that you're not.

512
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:49,760
Yeah.

513
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:55,760
And point those out, because obviously you're coming to me or somebody for a reason, right?

514
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:56,760
Yeah.

515
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,760
And your ideas and your thought process is not correct.

516
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:00,760
Yeah.

517
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:01,760
Right?

518
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:02,760
And then when we kind of see that and we put you on something else.

519
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:03,760
Yeah.

520
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,760
I think it starts to open up their game and their mind, and they start to look at different

521
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,760
avenues of where their swing is.

522
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:10,760
Definitely.

523
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:15,760
So the other group of clients we get is the, well, my buddy's a really good player, and

524
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:16,760
he told me to do this.

525
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,760
Okay, well, how many lessons has your buddy taught?

526
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:20,760
Correct.

527
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:21,760
He might be a two-handicap.

528
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:22,760
Yeah.

529
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,760
He might be able to get the ball around and do things on, might have a different body

530
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,760
type, might be stronger, faster, different athletic ability than you.

531
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:30,760
Yeah.

532
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,760
But that's not what the problem is.

533
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:33,760
Yeah.

534
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:40,760
So, and then the last component to that is I'm trying not to pick on the husbands.

535
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:41,760
Okay.

536
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,760
Oh, I know where this one's going.

537
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,760
But the wife who comes in, she's tried a couple rounds, she's tried a couple range sessions,

538
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,760
her husband's telling her something.

539
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:51,760
Yeah.

540
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:56,760
And then they come in, okay, well, my husband told me to keep my head down.

541
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:57,760
Okay.

542
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:02,760
That might be something at some point in the golf swing, two months from now.

543
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:03,760
Keep your eye on the ball.

544
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:04,760
Keep your head still.

545
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:11,760
I mean, it's the most common advice I ever hear, especially with the ladies that I play

546
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:12,760
with.

547
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:13,760
They're being told by their husband.

548
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:18,760
They're being told by their husband, right, who's played for 30 years, 40 years.

549
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:19,760
Yeah.

550
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:20,760
Not well, probably.

551
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:21,760
Probably not well.

552
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:22,760
Right.

553
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:23,760
I wouldn't have gotten a lesson from them either.

554
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,760
But it's their only reference point, right?

555
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:27,760
Right.

556
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:28,760
They're trying to get introduced into the game.

557
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:29,760
Right.

558
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,760
And they look to the only person in the household that's played it.

559
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:33,760
Yeah.

560
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,760
And they're trying to go with any advice that they have.

561
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:36,760
Yeah.

562
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:41,760
And one thing that has crept throughout the whole ages from maybe Bobby Jones all the

563
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,760
way down is keep your eye on the ball.

564
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:44,760
Yeah.

565
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:45,760
Right.

566
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,760
And I don't know any sport or anything where I'm keeping my eye on the ball as I'm tossing

567
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,760
it or throwing it or making a motion.

568
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:54,760
Right.

569
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:55,760
Always target on it.

570
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:56,760
Correct.

571
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:57,760
Correct.

572
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:58,760
Yeah.

573
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:04,760
So getting women to understand that they've got to let their head rotate through the swing

574
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,760
is a huge accomplishment for them.

575
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,760
And to be honest with you, I hear this all the time.

576
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,760
Boy, that's a lot easier on my back.

577
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:12,760
Right?

578
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:13,760
Right.

579
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:14,760
It's an athletic motion.

580
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,760
If I was throwing something, everything's going in that direction.

581
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,760
My eye's not staying on the ball as I'm coming through.

582
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:20,760
Yeah.

583
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:21,760
That's right.

584
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:26,760
And that's one of those things when I get the beginning lady, they kind of go, huh,

585
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:27,760
really?

586
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:28,760
And I'm like, that's the worst advice.

587
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:29,760
Don't tell your husband, but don't do it.

588
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:30,760
Right?

589
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:31,760
I'm pretty adamant.

590
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,760
I just tell them, I say, hey, bring your husband next time.

591
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:35,760
Yeah.

592
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:36,760
Let me tell him.

593
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:41,760
And it's funny because what I'll do is I'll say, luckily sometimes I'll have somebody

594
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,760
who's a decent player on the range and I'll say, watch their head.

595
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:45,760
Right?

596
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:46,760
Yeah.

597
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:47,760
That's a good way to do it.

598
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:48,760
Watch their head.

599
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:49,760
Watch what they're doing.

600
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:50,760
And it's kind of like an eureka mode.

601
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:51,760
I can move my head.

602
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,760
I have that freedom to do that.

603
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:54,760
Right?

604
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,760
And I think as golfers, I think they think there's more restrictions than there is freedom.

605
00:24:58,760 --> 00:24:59,760
Keep your head still.

606
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:00,760
Yeah.

607
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:01,760
That's what they do.

608
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,760
They keep their head still and it limits every body motion that we're trying to do.

609
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:05,760
Correct.

610
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:06,760
Correct.

611
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:07,760
So that's a real big one.

612
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:08,760
I touched on a couple things there.

613
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:13,760
So one of them is to me, I was watching the Instagram video last night, which I do almost

614
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:14,760
every night.

615
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,760
We kind of go down that rabbit hole sometimes.

616
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:17,760
Absolutely.

617
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,760
We do it just as much as you guys do.

618
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:20,760
Absolutely.

619
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,760
But one of the things is like when you're, a great point when you said about like throwing

620
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:29,760
the baseball, shooting a basketball, you know, when you're shooting a basketball, you would

621
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,760
never look at your hand and the rotation.

622
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:32,760
No, never.

623
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:33,760
It's where, it's what am I trying to go to?

624
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:34,760
It's what's the target?

625
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,760
Baseball, you're looking for the glove or you're looking for the side of the plate,

626
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:38,760
right?

627
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,760
Which part of the plate we're trying to hit.

628
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:41,760
Absolutely.

629
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,760
And it's also a very mental image in your head because when you're back here and you're

630
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,760
turning to throw the pitch, you can't look at the plate.

631
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,760
So you have to have that plate in your head.

632
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,760
So where I go that for golf, and this is what I was watching yesterday, was they were talking

633
00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:03,760
to Rory and the other tour player they were talking to, but basically it was Cameron Spett.

634
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:04,760
Okay.

635
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:05,760
Great, great putter.

636
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:06,760
Gotcha.

637
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:07,760
Arguably one of the better putters out there on tour.

638
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:08,760
Without a doubt, yeah.

639
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,760
And they were both then, we don't take practice when it's putting.

640
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:19,760
And the reason they said don't take the practice when putting is the timing that it takes to

641
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,760
take the practice swing, right?

642
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:26,760
When they get up over the ball, they've lost the target image.

643
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,760
So they really want to be, they get over the ball.

644
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,760
But there's a reason to take a practice swing on a seven iron, because you're trying to

645
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:34,760
get the feel for it.

646
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:35,760
Yeah, your low point, right?

647
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,760
Putter, you know how to make a putt.

648
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,760
You know what you're doing.

649
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:40,760
Somewhat.

650
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:41,760
Exactly, yeah.

651
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:46,760
But the point is once you get over the ball, their point was look down at the target.

652
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:52,760
And we've talked about this, when you bring that target back to the ball, the mind's eye

653
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,760
thing, they want to go.

654
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,760
They want to go as quick as possible.

655
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:57,760
That's sports news reactionary.

656
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,760
Yeah, you lose that, and that's the baseball thing too.

657
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,760
You lose the target part of it.

658
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:09,760
And the more that your head, mind can keep the target in your head, you're going to,

659
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,760
what is Tiger's putting?

660
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,760
I think I was just about to say, what is Tiger's whole philosophy?

661
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:15,760
Putt to the picture, right?

662
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:16,760
Putt to the target.

663
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,760
You know, he's got that mental picture, and he sees that ball rolling into the hole.

664
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:26,760
And I've got to be honest, I think that's how he's made most of his putts, is just willing

665
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,760
it and seeing himself doing it.

666
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:33,760
And there's a small corridor between reality and fantasy, I think, that if you can get

667
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,760
that mental image like you're talking about, your game's going to go up.

668
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:38,760
Absolutely.

669
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:43,760
And I see the ball, and I know when I putt it in my best two, I see the ball roll over

670
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,760
the cup in my head, over the front end of the cup.

671
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:47,760
Okay.

672
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:48,760
Right?

673
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:49,760
Like I see it happening.

674
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,760
And then I'm just doing what I'm seeing in my head.

675
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:52,760
Yeah.

676
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,760
Just like driving, like all the things that we do when we don't get in an accident, like

677
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,760
we're seeing the thing that's happening in front of us, but we're not focused on the

678
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:00,760
wheel.

679
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:01,760
Right.

680
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:02,760
You know what I'm saying?

681
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:03,760
Like we'd never do that.

682
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:04,760
We'd never look at our hands.

683
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:05,760
No.

684
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:06,760
Or the steering wheel.

685
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:07,760
Crash, right?

686
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,760
So for me, I do a little bit different mental imagery.

687
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:15,760
What I do is I'm a big YouTuber, so I go and I watch Tiger eating putts.

688
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:16,760
I watch him putt.

689
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:17,760
There you go.

690
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:22,760
And in my mind, when I get over the putt, I'm envisioning myself eating Tiger Woods,

691
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:23,760
baking that putt.

692
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:24,760
That's a good one.

693
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,760
You know, do I make it every time?

694
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:27,760
Am I Tiger Woods?

695
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:28,760
No.

696
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,760
But I get that vision, and I really love the putt that he made on Torrey Pines at the US

697
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:33,760
Open.

698
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:34,760
Yeah.

699
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:35,760
I know which one you made.

700
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,760
I make it every time, every time in my mind, and I try to conjure that putt.

701
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,760
You know, I try to conjure those feelings.

702
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,760
That's the hard part, where the water's in front of it?

703
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:43,760
Yeah.

704
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:44,760
Where he's got the broken leg?

705
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:45,760
Broken leg, where he gets into the playoff.

706
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:46,760
Talk about unwilling himself to.

707
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:47,760
Absolutely.

708
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,760
So I mean, I think that's just the epitome of what Tiger Woods could do.

709
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:56,000
And I think if you can kind of, at least for me, if you can envision another golfer, maybe

710
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,560
another golfer swing, like Nick Faldo would always envision like Jack Nicklaus's swing

711
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,760
or something like that.

712
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:07,000
I think if you can just get a mental imagery of somebody else, it just kind of bleeds into

713
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,000
your game.

714
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,000
Yeah.

715
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,000
Yeah.

716
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,000
I may not get all the facts correct on this story, but I know Freddie Couples was being

717
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,760
interviewed back around the mid-90s, cutting a report, and he wins the tournament, hits

718
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,760
the six iron in from like 180 or something to like six feet on the last hole.

719
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,760
And the challenging shot, you know, pressure field or whatever, reported, and it's such

720
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,760
a Freddie Couples kind of personality type of thing.

721
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,760
The reporter says, hey, Freddie, how'd you pull that off?

722
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:30,760
How'd you hit that six iron?

723
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,760
Because do you know how many six irons I've hit on the range?

724
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,760
All I did was think, just like you're saying about what Tiger, all I did was think about

725
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,760
all the 10,000 good six irons that I've hit in my life.

726
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,760
That's what I was thinking about.

727
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,760
I wasn't thinking about the bunker left, the water right, the fact that this is, if I hit

728
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,760
this in close, I'm going to win this event.

729
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,760
None of that factored in.

730
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,760
I just factored in, hey, I'm going to hit a six iron.

731
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,760
I've hit 10,000 of these.

732
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,760
Let me recall those facts and go do it.

733
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:04,760
And to our listeners, to our viewers, that mental imagery, we can't stress it enough.

734
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:05,760
Absolutely.

735
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:06,760
Because what do our people think?

736
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,760
Oh my gosh, the water left, all the bunker left.

737
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:09,760
I hope I'm stalling.

738
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:10,760
I hope I'm on combat.

739
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:11,760
People behind me.

740
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:12,760
Right.

741
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:13,760
Oh, yeah.

742
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:14,760
I don't want to hurry.

743
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:15,760
And the ladies, I feel bad for the ladies.

744
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,760
They always feel like they're pushed.

745
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,760
And they're pushed by guys who are behind the work any better.

746
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:21,760
They're terrible.

747
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,760
You know, they're just knocking and dumping it just as bad as they are, right?

748
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:25,760
Yeah.

749
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:31,760
But yeah, definitely, if you can get that mental imagery, it just, it quiets the mind.

750
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,760
You know, you stop thinking about the problems.

751
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:40,760
Especially for me, when I get on to 16 at Silverado, I say to myself, okay, I've got,

752
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,760
what is it, six more good swings, right, and a couple of putts.

753
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,760
And all I think about is those swings.

754
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,760
I don't think about the problems or the troubles.

755
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:53,760
I just think you need to hit these six swings good, right?

756
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,760
You need to hit them as good as you can.

757
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:56,760
Yeah.

758
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:57,760
Right?

759
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,760
And if I just focus on that, I usually have a good last two holds or something like that.

760
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:02,760
Yeah.

761
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,760
And going back to your lesson and the people you bring out there, I think that's really

762
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:10,760
important because if you bring the 10 to 15 handicapper out on number 16, 16, the par

763
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:11,760
four dog wig right.

764
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:12,760
Yeah.

765
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,760
Very simple, just a straight dog wig right.

766
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:19,760
Typically, that 10 handicapper who's trying to get to eight or seven will tell us when

767
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,760
we're on the tee box, okay, what's your thought?

768
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,760
What are you trying to do here?

769
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:24,760
Right.

770
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,760
Well, I'm trying to go over the trees and try to cut the trees and go, why, why, why

771
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,760
don't you just go for the 150 yard watcher, right?

772
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:32,760
Exactly.

773
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,760
There's a huge fairway in the middle.

774
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:39,760
Your chance of percentage of carrying those trees is minimal at best.

775
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:40,760
Yeah.

776
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,760
There's a reason you're a 12 or a 16 or whatever.

777
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:43,760
And you know, we're not picking on people.

778
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:44,760
No.

779
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,760
We're just trying to show you how you get to these three, four, two handicap levels.

780
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:49,760
You don't factor those in.

781
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,760
You just hit, hey, I'm really good from 150, 160.

782
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:53,760
Let me hit there.

783
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,760
Let me take three wood instead of driver.

784
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:57,760
And we talked about that.

785
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:02,760
You know, if you took a less club and really you went to the range and you just wore out

786
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,760
the 150 yard marker, I think your handicapper just skyrocketed.

787
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:12,760
You know, but you know, definitely, you know, that's where that course management comes

788
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:13,760
in.

789
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,760
Making sure that, you know, instead of taking this 12 degrees over here, let's make it,

790
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,760
you know, 13 degrees over here and get into the fairway.

791
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:21,760
Right.

792
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,760
And, you know, especially when I read, you know, books on like strokes gained and stuff,

793
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,760
the higher the handicap, the more you should aim to the left fairway because they slice.

794
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:30,760
Right.

795
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,760
And they find that, you know, as you statistically go more left, you're going to find the fairway,

796
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,760
more fairways, more greens.

797
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:42,760
So knowing what your miss is and understanding that and playing to it is what you want to

798
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:43,760
do.

799
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:48,760
And even in that regard, like as instructors, you would tell the person who keeps slicing

800
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,760
it to not aim more left.

801
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:51,760
Correct?

802
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:52,760
Correct.

803
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:53,760
Right.

804
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:54,760
That's how we're going to fix it on the range.

805
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:55,760
Correct.

806
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,760
But when you're playing golf and you're doing a course management lesson, hey, you are who

807
00:32:58,760 --> 00:32:59,760
you are.

808
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:00,760
Correct.

809
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:01,760
You dance with the girl you brought.

810
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:02,760
Right.

811
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:03,760
That was in the college.

812
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:04,760
Absolutely.

813
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:05,760
Even if she's ugly, you're dancing with the girl you got.

814
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:06,760
I mean, whatever you have that day.

815
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:07,760
Yeah.

816
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:08,760
And that's what these guys on tour do.

817
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:09,760
Yeah.

818
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,760
My dad, my dad always told me, go with the devil and you're not.

819
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:13,760
Go with the devil.

820
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:14,760
Go with the devil, you know.

821
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:15,760
Yeah.

822
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,880
When you're out there, and we talked about this, is that you don't want to play golf

823
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:20,880
swing.

824
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:21,880
You want to play golf.

825
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:22,880
Right?

826
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:27,240
And if you go on out there and you're hitting a 30-yard cut, just accept it for the day.

827
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,240
It could be the wind conditions.

828
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,640
It could be a lot of factors.

829
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,480
But play your shot.

830
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:37,000
Play what's comfortable to you and don't go trying to take risks that you really don't

831
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,000
need to take.

832
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,000
Right.

833
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,760
Bring in double bogeys and triple bogeys into play when it could just be a bogey.

834
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:42,760
Yeah.

835
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:43,760
Again, the same thing.

836
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,760
You've got a tree that you've got to cover or something.

837
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,760
And if you don't have the shot, you don't have the shot.

838
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:49,760
Yeah.

839
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:50,760
Chip it out.

840
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:51,760
Make five.

841
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:52,760
Make bogey.

842
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:53,760
Go live to play another day.

843
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:54,760
You might make a 30-foot cut.

844
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:55,760
Yes.

845
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:56,760
Yes.

846
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:57,760
Give yourself a chance at it.

847
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:58,760
Yeah.

848
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,760
But if you're out in the woods on your fourth shot and trying to get on the green one, you're

849
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,760
probably making double or triple at that point.

850
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:05,760
Right?

851
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:06,760
Yep.

852
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:07,760
Absolutely.

853
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,760
What's kind of the dream for some or the dream place that you'd like to play or maybe

854
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,760
you've already filled your dream, maybe you've already played Augusta that I don't know about

855
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:15,760
or something?

856
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:16,760
No.

857
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,760
I mean, I think everybody would love to play Augusta or like con ballad.

858
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:19,760
Okay.

859
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:20,760
Something like that.

860
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:21,760
Yeah.

861
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,760
I think my foursome would be very, very simple.

862
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,760
I think it'd be a threesome, to be honest with you.

863
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,760
I think it would just be my grandpa and my dad and me.

864
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:29,760
Oh, nice.

865
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,760
You know, you could go play with all the great golfers and all that stuff.

866
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,760
But at the end of the day, I really want to play with people I know.

867
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:37,760
Yeah.

868
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,760
I want to really just get into a conversation with and enjoy the whole 18 and not try to

869
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,760
run somebody or figure it out.

870
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:44,760
Yeah.

871
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,760
Would I love to play with Tiger Woods, Jack Nicklaus and all those guys?

872
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:47,760
Yes.

873
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:48,760
I'd be nervous, by the way.

874
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:49,760
I'd be totally nervous, right?

875
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,760
I'd feel much more comfortable playing with my own, you know, my grandpa and my dad.

876
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:53,760
Yeah.

877
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:54,760
Yeah.

878
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:55,760
But if I had my dream, it would be those two.

879
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:56,760
Yeah.

880
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:01,760
Have you been to tour events or like is there something that you like to like maybe tell

881
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:07,760
the audience, like do you like to go to the range part of the tour event and watch them

882
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:08,760
hit the ball?

883
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:09,760
Absolutely.

884
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,760
Or like how do you take in the tour experience?

885
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,760
So for me, I love, I went to Doral.

886
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:15,760
Okay.

887
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:16,760
Had a great experience there.

888
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,760
I got inside the ropes and followed the guys around, which was absolutely great.

889
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:24,760
I followed, I want to say, I'm trying to remember the guy's name.

890
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,760
I'll come back to it.

891
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,760
But got to go inside the ropes and all that good stuff.

892
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:29,760
It was a great experience.

893
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:34,760
But what I really enjoyed when I got there was getting to the practice putting green

894
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,760
and watching how much those guys practice on the putting green.

895
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,760
And to be honest with you, from, you know, here to the screen, they're just thinking

896
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:42,760
putts routinely.

897
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:47,760
I mean, I watched Jordan speak, he must have made 40 putts with one hand on the phone.

898
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,760
And I'm like, this guy's amazing, you know?

899
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:57,760
But just to see those guys and how they practice and how they interact and the mental coaches

900
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:02,760
that are coming up and talking to them, I just find it amazing and it's such a buzz.

901
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:03,760
You know, it really is.

902
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,760
It's a buzz around the whole area.

903
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:06,760
Yeah.

904
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,760
That's a cool thing to even bring back to your students is kind of explain, you know,

905
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,760
we, kiddingly, you saw me in here teaching this morning.

906
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:18,760
Like, you give a student something to work on and you're like, okay, and my tagline is,

907
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,760
okay, 499 more.

908
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:21,760
Yeah.

909
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:22,760
You know, go do it 500 times.

910
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:23,760
Yeah.

911
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:24,760
Just that one piece.

912
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:25,760
Yeah.

913
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:30,760
Because again, our exposure, the fact that we're lucky enough, blessed enough to be able

914
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:36,760
to go to tour events and be able to see what these guys do and have friends who are not

915
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,760
tour players, but maybe tour, but Keith.

916
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:40,760
Keith, yeah.

917
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:41,760
Keith Kuller.

918
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,760
He's qualified for the senior open a couple times.

919
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,760
And been chapter of the year player multiple times.

920
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:46,760
Yeah.

921
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,760
So you get to these levels is my point.

922
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,760
And you see what good, consistent players do.

923
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:56,760
And they don't walk from the parking lot to the first tee.

924
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:57,760
There's none of that.

925
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:58,760
With a red bull in their hands.

926
00:36:58,760 --> 00:36:59,760
Yeah, there's none of that.

927
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,760
And you know, I'm not even trying to be negative.

928
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,760
It's just, again, kind of you put in what you're going to get.

929
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:07,760
Correct.

930
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,760
You know, so if you're going to continually put in good practice sessions, your game's

931
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:12,760
going to improve.

932
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:13,760
Absolutely.

933
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,760
But if you, you know, not fearful.

934
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,760
Because fearful is a little term that we hear sometimes in golf, like that's why golfers

935
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:22,760
don't take lessons.

936
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:23,760
Yeah.

937
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:24,760
Right?

938
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,760
Because they don't want the throw to screw them up.

939
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,760
Yeah, they don't trust them with their swing or they're worried that they're going to go

940
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,760
down a rabbit hole and get worse than what they are before they get better.

941
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:38,760
And I think you've got to understand that the learning process is that you are going

942
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:39,760
to fail before you succeed.

943
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,760
And I think that's the fear that you talk about is that people are like, I don't want

944
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,760
to address what I've already learned to go forward.

945
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:47,760
I'll just keep what I have.

946
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,760
And that's why I think they kind of shy away from instructors.

947
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,760
So again, again, more YouTube rabbit hole.

948
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:54,760
Yeah.

949
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,760
I've seen some clips of Michael Jordan.

950
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,760
I've seen some clips of Kobe really recently.

951
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:04,760
Basically, the kind of summary is every day they're going to fail.

952
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,760
They're going to fail every, they're not going to make 20 out of 20.

953
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:08,760
Yeah.

954
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:09,760
Right?

955
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,760
They're going to fail 50% of the time making shots.

956
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:17,760
They're going to fail 20% of the time on a free throw line, but they're also going to

957
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:18,760
make 80%.

958
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:19,760
Correct.

959
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:20,760
They're also going to make 60%.

960
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:21,760
They're also going to make 70%.

961
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:28,760
When they, in the game, when they need the shot, they're not fearing failure.

962
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,760
All they're thinking about, and Tom Brady, you go down the list of the best players.

963
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,760
The greats, the greats.

964
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:39,760
And I think their way of embracing failure is what makes them successful.

965
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,760
They know they're going to do it.

966
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:46,760
They know that, you know, there's a point as an athlete, you're going to fail at some

967
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:51,760
point, but you have to, you know, at some point get over that mental hurdle and just

968
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:52,760
do it.

969
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,760
And the more you get rid of those thoughts, it just kind of, you get into the zone.

970
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:57,760
Yeah.

971
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,760
You know, just get into that zone and you quit worrying about all the mental chatter

972
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:01,760
in your mind.

973
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,760
So again, put the work in, right?

974
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:08,760
If you have the 10,000 six-ironers like Freddie Couples had, if you have all the pucks that

975
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,760
the Tigers made since he was two years old, which that's what he's calling back on, on

976
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:13,760
Torrey Pines on number 18.

977
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:14,760
Absolutely.

978
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:15,760
Right?

979
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:16,760
They don't think the negative way.

980
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:17,760
No.

981
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,760
That is why they get to where they get to, you know.

982
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:26,760
Even, you know, you and I, playing at our skill level, we probably don't, because we

983
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,760
don't put the practice, I'm sorry, I don't put the practice in.

984
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,760
No, I mean, we, you know.

985
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,760
Pines, kids, parents, all the stuff.

986
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:34,760
Good stuff.

987
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:35,760
Yeah.

988
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,760
So we were better 10 years ago, 20 years ago, because we had the ability at the time

989
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:40,760
trying to do it.

990
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:45,760
Well, it's funny that you say that, because we talked about Keith Coles and it's just

991
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,760
an old joke that he'd always tell me.

992
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,760
He says, the older I get, the better I was.

993
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:50,760
Yeah.

994
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:51,760
You know?

995
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,760
So it really is one of those things, you know, especially when you get into the golf

996
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,760
industry.

997
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,760
We all get into it because we love golf.

998
00:39:58,760 --> 00:39:59,760
We play well at it.

999
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:00,760
We are good or successful at it.

1000
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,760
And then when you get into it, it just kind of goes down.

1001
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:04,760
Yeah.

1002
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:05,760
Absolutely.

1003
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:06,760
But you're absolutely right.

1004
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,760
The more time that you can dedicate to it, you're going to see the results out there.

1005
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:10,760
Okay.

1006
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:11,760
You know, it just takes time.

1007
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:12,760
Yeah.

1008
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,760
So I'm a big fan of, if you're going to go practice putting, which is the first thing,

1009
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,760
like literally getting yourself up off the couch, okay, I'm going to go practice putting

1010
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,760
for a time frame, a number of putts, whatever that is.

1011
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:23,760
Yeah.

1012
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:24,760
Right?

1013
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:25,760
Don't go hit 20 footers.

1014
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:26,760
No.

1015
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,760
Why would, you know, you want the positive reinforcement of the ball going in the cup.

1016
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:31,760
Right.

1017
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,760
So I would literally sit there at college, after college, three to five footers, just

1018
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,760
trying to make as many as I could.

1019
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:39,760
Yeah.

1020
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,760
You know, 48 out of 50, 60 out of 100, whatever the number was.

1021
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:44,760
Yeah.

1022
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:49,760
But I didn't want to put 15 footers because I know the make percentage on tour is roughly

1023
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:50,760
maybe 20%.

1024
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:51,760
Yeah.

1025
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:52,760
Maybe.

1026
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:53,760
Yeah.

1027
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:54,760
Hit that.

1028
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:55,760
Right.

1029
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:56,760
Yeah.

1030
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:57,760
For 15 footers.

1031
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,760
But again, when you go tomorrow morning when I'm at work and I see you guys warming up.

1032
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,760
Yeah, I understand getting an idea of feel for distance.

1033
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,760
I don't want to start with three footers.

1034
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:05,760
I don't want that ball with green.

1035
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:06,760
I want to start getting confidence.

1036
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,760
I want to see the ball going into the hole.

1037
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:09,760
Yeah.

1038
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,760
I think there's a reason why when you go buy a putty mat, it's not 20 feet.

1039
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:14,760
There you go.

1040
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:15,760
It's eight feet.

1041
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:16,760
Right?

1042
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,760
So, you know, I think if you can, you know, work in that three to four foot section around

1043
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,760
the hole more than anything, even just going to get a lag feel.

1044
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:25,760
Yeah.

1045
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,760
If you could just work on that, I think you'd see a big reduction in the numbers, especially

1046
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:29,760
on the green.

1047
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:30,760
Yeah.

1048
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,760
So, when you play in a tournament and you go to the range to warm up, what's the first

1049
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,760
club you're pulling up to warm up with?

1050
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:42,760
Personally, for me, I like to grab the old wedge and I like to hit small little shots.

1051
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,760
I like to feel just tiny little shots and then it's to the putter.

1052
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,760
You know, I like to do a little what I call circle of depth where it's about three feet

1053
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:51,760
around.

1054
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:52,760
I put about eight balls down, putt there.

1055
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:53,760
Right.

1056
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:54,760
I don't want to see the ball going in the hole.

1057
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:55,760
Right.

1058
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:56,760
I don't, I'm not worried about the stroke.

1059
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:57,760
I'm not worried about it.

1060
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,760
I just want to visually see the ball going in the hole so I can recall that when I get

1061
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:02,760
there out there on the course.

1062
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:03,760
Yeah.

1063
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,760
You know, so I can go, ah, that's what I want to see.

1064
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:10,760
Point being that we're not taking the four iron out to the range first.

1065
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:11,760
Correct.

1066
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:12,760
You know, same thing.

1067
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,760
Like, I want to see nice wedge shots coming off the club.

1068
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,760
I want to get my body loosened, but I want to see good positivity in my head.

1069
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:20,760
Correct.

1070
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,760
Titching wedge, nine iron, eight iron, but beat those clubs up.

1071
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:23,760
Absolutely.

1072
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:24,760
You know, and then, yeah, I'm going to pull driver out.

1073
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,760
Yeah, I'm going to pull driver out because I want to feel what's going to be on the first

1074
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:29,760
hole.

1075
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:30,760
You typically hit the driver on the first hole.

1076
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:35,760
So I've got to, maybe have that mental call back from 15 minutes later when I'm on the

1077
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:36,760
first tee box.

1078
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:37,760
Yeah.

1079
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,760
And if I just hit two good drivers, you know, just, you know, that recover type thing.

1080
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,760
So that's great, man.

1081
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,760
Do you, let the listeners know how we get in touch with you and all that type of stuff?

1082
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,760
Yeah, so I'm at swingtheorygolf.com.

1083
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:50,760
Okay.

1084
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,760
You can go to my website or you can go to Pick Time.

1085
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:55,760
Okay.

1086
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,760
I think we have some times here at One Stop Golf Shop.

1087
00:42:58,760 --> 00:42:59,760
There you go.

1088
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:00,760
If you want to get ahold of me here.

1089
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:01,760
Awesome.

1090
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,760
You know, but I love working with beginners.

1091
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:04,760
Don't mind working with elites.

1092
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:05,760
Yeah.

1093
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:06,760
But I'm really more of a beginner.

1094
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:07,760
I love working with short game.

1095
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:08,760
Yeah.

1096
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:09,760
And I love just, you know, helping them out.

1097
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:10,760
That's good, man.

1098
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:11,760
Well, hey, good to know you better.

1099
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:12,760
Thank you.

1100
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:13,760
Thank you.

1101
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:14,760
I certainly appreciate it.

1102
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:15,760
Absolutely.

1103
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:16,760
Thank you so much.

1104
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:17,760
We really appreciate it.

1105
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:18,760
Yeah.

1106
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:19,760
Thank you, listeners.

1107
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:20,760
I'm going to see you guys on the next podcast, but I think this is a good beginning.

1108
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:21,760
Yeah, and you're next.

1109
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:22,760
Yes, sir.

1110
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:23,760
Exactly.

1111
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:24,760
A lot of pressure.

1112
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:25,760
All right.

1113
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:26,760
All right.

1114
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:27,760
Thanks, guys.

1115
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:28,760
Yes, sir.

1116
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:39,520
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1117
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1119
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