1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,320 Welcome to Pete and Hannah's watch lists and we're presenting the AFI Top 100. 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,400 I'm here with my great co-host Hannah. 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:10,400 Sup. 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:17,200 Hannah, we are doing the AFI Top 100 where we watch, re-watch all the 100 movies of the 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,920 American Film Industry 10th anniversary. 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,320 So that's five times really fast. 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:28,480 And we give our usual reviews and we talk about the film and why it's on the list. 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,680 Why are we doing the American Film Institute? 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:36,080 Well it's a curated list of 100 movies so that's cool. 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:41,640 But also it's just, we also love movies and especially American film. 11 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,080 In fact it's everywhere. 12 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:50,000 And this is basically saying this is what humanity's got to offer. 13 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,520 Like aliens are going to see this, this is our top 100. 14 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:56,080 And we kind of just want to see are they any worthwhile? 15 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:57,080 Like are they actually good? 16 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:02,800 Another thing is like you weren't into movies like heavily until COVID. 17 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:07,040 Yeah, I would also say the thing is like I have, you know. 18 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:08,040 A lot of these you haven't seen. 19 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:09,040 The greats. 20 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,040 Yeah. 21 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,920 This considered great way before my time. 22 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:17,880 So during COVID when we, everyone was locked down, we started watching television shows 23 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,360 and we started watching movies. 24 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,800 We first started, we watched West Wing. 25 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,880 So you've been indoctrinated into that, which I loved as a kid. 26 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,640 And then now love as an adult watching it every year and now you're all. 27 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,720 And we also started watching, rewatching movies. 28 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:38,200 And then we started this channel and then we thought, okay, we need something to, let's 29 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:42,920 go back to what we were doing during COVID and watch a movie every week from an old movie. 30 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:49,320 And then you picked the top 100 movies from the American Film Institute and the 10th anniversary 31 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,080 revisited, which no one's really talked about much. 32 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:58,240 They talked about the first job in 1997, but the 2007, how much discourse about it? 33 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:03,920 I would like to see, like, cause to revisit and update the films on that list is an interesting 34 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:04,920 thing. 35 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,000 Like it hasn't been updated since. 36 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,000 It probably will eventually. 37 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,000 It definitely will be. 38 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:14,840 And then not only that, it's the, going through this list, it's very interesting to see like, 39 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,280 again, it's the American Film Institute. 40 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,000 So they choose a lot of American films and stuff. 41 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,440 So it'd be interesting to see later on down the years if they actually add. 42 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:27,760 Another thing is like, there's a lot of movies that have been added to this list that weren't 43 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:28,760 new movies. 44 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:33,680 They were, they found 1930s movies and they added to this. 45 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,520 So it is quite amazing that the list changed so much. 46 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,080 And also it's an update of values too, cause there's like, there's some films on there 47 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:46,800 that, honestly that I consider classics by just any means, but now it's like, oh yeah, 48 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:52,000 of course they're important to film, not just as a good film, but as they're an important 49 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,000 part of history. 50 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,520 Well, we're starting with a huge one today. 51 00:02:55,520 --> 00:03:01,040 The hundredth movie on the list of American Film Institute is one of the best movies of 52 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,640 all time. 53 00:03:03,640 --> 00:03:07,680 It's won countless Academy Awards. 54 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,320 It was nominated for 13, won 111. 55 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:18,040 It's actually a record because there's some wins that Gone With The Wind had that were 56 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,600 just automatically given to them. 57 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,960 This is actually categories that were fought. 58 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:29,560 And there's also categories in Avatar, Titanic, that weren't actually existed back in when 59 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:30,560 Ben Hur. 60 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:35,680 So Ben Hur won categories, a better strike rate basically. 61 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:41,960 So it's Ben Hur, it's a 1959 remake of the 25 movie. 62 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:47,640 So basically how we'll do this is we rewatch the movie and then we put the movie into categories 63 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,320 which we'll learn. 64 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,160 We'll add names, funny names to each category. 65 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:57,400 And then we'll just put it through the usual Pete and Hannah's review show, a ringer with 66 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,760 the elevator pitch, reasons to, reasons not to. 67 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,160 And then we'll talk about where it sits on the list. 68 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,920 And then we'll finally ask the real question that everyone wants to know, would we watch 69 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,320 it again? 70 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,920 And should it be on the list anyway? 71 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,320 From people not part of the film. 72 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:15,440 Okay so let's start. 73 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,160 It's number 100. 74 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,960 It's Ben Hur 1959. 75 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,200 Had you seen it before? 76 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:24,200 Nope. 77 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:25,640 I saw this one when I was a kid. 78 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:33,640 So it was big on rotation in Australia when Footy, so our footy in Queensland where we're 79 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,440 from is Rugby League. 80 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:40,720 And so when on Sundays it was huge, they'd play a big biblical movie. 81 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,720 So you'd get either Ben Hur or you'd get 10 Commandments. 82 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,200 You get like a long movie. 83 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,200 So it covers all the day. 84 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:53,760 It always used to be on Channel 9 for some reason, which is the main station over here. 85 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,440 And it was before the cricket started. 86 00:04:55,440 --> 00:05:01,480 So I think there was three seasons when it came to television in Australia growing up. 87 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:08,720 There was Rugby League, then there was epic movies, and then it went into cricket. 88 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,400 So that's my three loves of life. 89 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,400 So that's what you chose a little bit about me. 90 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:14,400 Elevator pitch. 91 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:20,880 So Ben Hur is betrayed and he seeks revenge through chariot racing. 92 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,000 Now who's Ben Hur? 93 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:32,000 So he's a Jewish person that's living in Judea under Roman occupation. 94 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,000 The first year of existence. 95 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,000 So one BC. 96 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,000 Yeah. 97 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,000 One, one after Common Era. 98 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,000 Yeah. 99 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,000 Yeah. 100 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,000 After. 101 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,000 So you can mix it with all the after death speed. 102 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,000 Yeah. 103 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,520 Especially because this movie ties in. 104 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:48,520 Yeah. 105 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:49,800 It ties in with religious angle. 106 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,720 There's some, some Jesus stuff in here. 107 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,880 So the maker studio was MGM Grant. 108 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,400 So one of your favourite studios. 109 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,640 Well, yeah, they love throwing money in like really big movies. 110 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,680 Well Hannah, when you say that they were going broke at this stage in 1959. 111 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,520 They were in big trouble. 112 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,280 And so they took a big part on this movie. 113 00:06:07,280 --> 00:06:11,000 Now the original budget for this was $7 million. 114 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,760 But that pulled out to $15 million. 115 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:18,320 Now that doesn't sound like much now, but it quite, it quite into our money. 116 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:19,320 That's $150 million. 117 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,520 Now for a business that's nearly going broke. 118 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:22,520 Yeah. 119 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:23,520 Can you believe that? 120 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:28,440 I will say MGM have a habit of, you know, putting money into a movie and then the movie 121 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:29,440 exceeding that limit. 122 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:30,440 Yeah. 123 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,240 Things like Gone with the Wind and Wizard of Oz have done that in the past. 124 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:34,960 So the bet paid off. 125 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:39,160 It was one of the highest grossing movies of the fifties. 126 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:45,040 It was just behind Gone with the Wind and Ten Commandments. 127 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:49,720 If it were equated to today's money, it would have cost $150 million. 128 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:54,240 Inquited in today's money, it would have made over $1.5 billion. 129 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:55,240 Oh wow. 130 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:56,240 Yeah. 131 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:57,240 Okay. 132 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:58,240 Yeah. 133 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:59,240 So it hits money back. 134 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:00,240 $75 million are made. 135 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,280 So it had a huge theatrical run as well. 136 00:07:02,280 --> 00:07:06,640 So back in those days, there was only one or two movies that made it a cinema, especially 137 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,120 in Australia and that played for a year. 138 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:15,480 So now if a movie like look at Marvel's that came out recently that lasted a couple of 139 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,400 weeks, you know, we're getting movies that last one or two weeks in the cinemas and then 140 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,880 it goes on to a streaming service. 141 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:21,880 It's harrowing. 142 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,760 But you go back to like a movie like say Back to the Future, right? 143 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:25,760 Yeah, that was in the same. 144 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:31,840 That was in cinemas for 18 months and it had a run where it was number one and then six 145 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,320 months later it was number one again. 146 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,320 Like it'll never happen here. 147 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:36,320 It never happened here. 148 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,360 It wouldn't happen again with movies like that. 149 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:40,360 No. 150 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:46,600 So the story behind this movie, it was originally a book written in the 1800s. 151 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,120 It got turned into a movie in 1925. 152 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,880 It was much story when it came out in 1925. 153 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,000 People had been trying to remake it for years and years and years. 154 00:07:55,000 --> 00:08:00,840 The biblical Pixar had been huge hits like Ten Commandments was a huge movie starring 155 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,280 Charles M. Heston. 156 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:09,480 And so they looked at Lee Wallace's book and it was a spawning epic. 157 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,600 And when they tried to remake it, it was going to be a four hour movie. 158 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,120 So they brought this director on William Wyler. 159 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,360 Now this guy is he makes bangers after bangers. 160 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:21,360 Roman a Holiday. 161 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:22,360 Oh, funny girl. 162 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:23,360 Oh, you know what? 163 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:24,360 This guy is amazing. 164 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:25,360 Yeah. 165 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:26,360 Yeah. 166 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,160 So he also directed Wuthering Heights as well. 167 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:31,160 Oh, wow. 168 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:32,160 Yeah. 169 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:33,160 Okay. 170 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:34,160 So he did everything great. 171 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:38,520 He he he he didn't want to do it at the start. 172 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,480 He really didn't want to do it. 173 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:41,520 Because he was Jewish. 174 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,360 And so this movie is heavily Christianity. 175 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:44,360 Yes, heavily. 176 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,960 It's like Christianity. 177 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:54,080 But then he later said that he you know, you bring a Jew on to make a real Christian movie. 178 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,640 So he was he had a little bit of humor about this guy. 179 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:03,320 But he said he only wanted to do it if it was going to be a three hour movie and not 180 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:04,320 a four hour movie. 181 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:05,320 Okay. 182 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:06,320 Oh, okay. 183 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,560 He also said that he didn't want to skip on budget. 184 00:09:08,560 --> 00:09:14,040 So he said, well, the producer was Steven Zeppeles. 185 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,920 He said, well, it's going to be seven million dollar budget. 186 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,440 He goes, well, I think it's going to need to be more than that. 187 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,600 And so it ended up being 15 million dollars. 188 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,160 Yeah. 189 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:29,560 He had a lot of choices to for actors and the Judah Ben Her role. 190 00:09:29,560 --> 00:09:30,560 Okay. 191 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:34,760 So he he ended up going with The Great Child in the Heston who was in The Ten Commandments. 192 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,320 A lot of actors he was he went off to Paul Newman. 193 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:39,320 Paul Newman. 194 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:44,400 Paul Newman said, no, I wouldn't look good in a skirt. 195 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,360 Kirk Douglas really wanted this role, but he was too old because he really wanted to 196 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:49,920 play it because he's Jewish. 197 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:50,920 Yeah. 198 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,960 He ended up making Spartacus work and he became Spartacus. 199 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:55,960 Wow. 200 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:56,960 Yeah. 201 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:58,160 That's it. 202 00:09:58,160 --> 00:09:59,240 A lot of the other actors. 203 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:04,680 So the actor that played Ben Her's mom, it was only actually three years older than Charlton 204 00:10:04,680 --> 00:10:05,680 Heston. 205 00:10:05,680 --> 00:10:13,560 And earlier, earlier he she had played a young mom of the baby Moses in The Ten Commandments. 206 00:10:13,560 --> 00:10:21,480 So it's a big turnaround that she's playing the old, the mature lady. 207 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:26,480 So the reaction of the film at the time, critics went wild for it. 208 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:27,480 Of course. 209 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:28,480 Of course. 210 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,840 It was a huge, highest grossing. 211 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,280 It won heaps of awards. 212 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,400 It was just, it swept the Oscars. 213 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:38,640 It won best director. 214 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:39,640 It won best picture. 215 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,200 It won best actor. 216 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:42,920 It won best supporting actor. 217 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:43,920 Now that's... 218 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:49,920 This is where we could argue one of the things that don't make sense in the past. 219 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:59,680 The role of the sheik was played by a Welsh actor. 220 00:10:59,680 --> 00:11:02,920 Now not the greatest thing you've ever seen, hey. 221 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,160 No. 222 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,840 You could say they're better ideas. 223 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:08,840 Let's be honest. 224 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:09,840 There was Blackface. 225 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:10,840 Yeah. 226 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:11,840 No. 227 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:16,000 And it's when you get to these older films, they weren't really looking for people that 228 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,280 looked like the people they're supposed to play. 229 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:23,600 They just worked around a metaphorical bush and just was like, oh, you know what? 230 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:24,600 You're pretty good. 231 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,040 Let's just throw something on and have a day. 232 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:32,880 So I was played by Hugh Griffin and he won the best supporting actor. 233 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:37,160 He didn't accept it at the Oscars as well. 234 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:38,160 He played Mutiny. 235 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,160 It was in The Mutiny and The Bounty. 236 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,040 It was How to Steal a Me and he was in heaps of movies. 237 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:44,720 And he was also in Oliver. 238 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:45,720 Oh yeah. 239 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:51,560 Yeah, so he storied actor, won an Oscar, but yeah, he did. 240 00:11:51,560 --> 00:11:54,560 He didn't want to accept it. 241 00:11:54,560 --> 00:11:55,560 Someone accepted on behalf. 242 00:11:55,560 --> 00:11:56,560 Yeah. 243 00:11:56,560 --> 00:11:59,560 William Wallace accepted on his behalf. 244 00:11:59,560 --> 00:12:00,560 Yeah. 245 00:12:00,560 --> 00:12:08,000 It's an interesting choice for best supporting because I feel like there are some other greater 246 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,000 best supporting. 247 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:14,440 Well, there's another probably better supporting actor in it than I would say the sheik. 248 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,760 He only plays like a really a minor role. 249 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:18,760 Yeah. 250 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:26,640 Well, you're talking about the Masala who played Masala who was played by Steven Grubb. 251 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:32,680 He a lot of people wanted to play that role. 252 00:12:32,680 --> 00:12:35,800 He there was a bit more meat on that bowl. 253 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,640 Do let's talk a little bit more about the movie and we'll come back to that. 254 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:47,400 We'll come back to the theme that you want to talk about majority of this award. 255 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,920 How I like to enjoy the movie. 256 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:54,520 Yeah, it's wow. 257 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:59,080 So Hugh Griffin was up against Arthur Connelly in Anatomy of Murder. 258 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:03,760 George C. Scott, they probably cross each other out. 259 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,080 Robert Vaughan in The Young Philadelphians who just died recently. 260 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,360 Edwin and Dario the Frank. 261 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:13,000 So I've seen I've seen the Anatomy of Murder and I've seen Young Philadelphians. 262 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,520 I'll surprise that Hugh Griffin actually won after watching this movie. 263 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:22,080 Yeah, I think he doesn't he doesn't play in nowadays. 264 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:28,560 His role one you wouldn't have it because yeah, of course, but his my he doesn't really 265 00:13:28,560 --> 00:13:32,200 add anything to this like to the plot. 266 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:37,200 It doesn't mean I wouldn't say he he does a good job acting but I wouldn't say he's 267 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:42,500 you know, putting on a performance that supports I guess the main actor in it anyway. 268 00:13:42,500 --> 00:13:47,840 So we're not a huge fan of like sites of critics and stuff like that. 269 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:54,120 So we as people who have watched our show before we don't really give like a score we 270 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:58,960 give like a sort of funny rating and sort of like we're not like and we like to also 271 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,880 showcase what we liked and what we disliked about it. 272 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:08,120 Yeah, because we we know there's things to like about it even if it's you know, considered 273 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:09,360 film lovers not film critics. 274 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:18,600 So so just to go through some of the metrics, it's 85% of Rotten Tomatoes was 8.1 on IMDB. 275 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,560 Like yeah for that for what it is. 276 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,920 That's high that's high praise, you know, so yeah, especially a movie to you know, it's 277 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:30,760 been a long time to still gonna praise even to this day. 278 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:35,360 Does it does it does it deserve a price? 279 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,480 Does it deserve all the price it got? 280 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:43,680 Now I think at the time, everything about it is so amazingly well done. 281 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:44,680 At the time. 282 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:49,680 Yeah, definitely when you look at it now compared to some you look on it and some of the sets 283 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:55,920 you're like that looks like a set or they had to recently they retouched they did a 284 00:14:55,920 --> 00:15:00,880 remaster not long ago and so everything's got a little bit you know, sometimes the siege 285 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:06,240 they like drawn pipe drops and they just added some textures and stuff and I'll give you 286 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:07,240 a little bit of background. 287 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:12,680 So the battle scenes were filmed but with miniatures which is the job of the time. 288 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:17,800 I miniatures when miniatures are used I think that when they're done really well, you'll 289 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,440 never notice that and it's brilliant. 290 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:25,520 Well Oppenheimer recently yes, Nolan is a huge lover of his he did it with the dark 291 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:30,920 knight trilogy like any like when you see behind the scenes Batman begins like the whole 292 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,440 train thing was miniatures like that's incredible. 293 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:41,040 So they tried to film in Libya but when they found out this movie was about Judaism and 294 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,400 Christianity not a thing. 295 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:51,720 So they started filming in 1957 it was a long shoot nearly six months. 296 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:56,560 The chariot scene the famous chariot scene was six weeks alone. 297 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,440 Horses died no one died as in people. 298 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,120 Oh no one died? 299 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,600 Yeah it was near fatal but no one died. 300 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,160 But horses did. 301 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:12,200 So animals were harmed during the making of this film which deserves to be said in a taste 302 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:18,080 of time but that chariot scene alone and like you could even though again horrifying it 303 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:23,080 is a impressive thing they were able to achieve even though we could definitely argue that 304 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:28,920 sometimes those laps were long and sometimes they were very short for some reason. 305 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:36,480 So yeah he so what he did was William Wilder he did one big crane shot of when they came 306 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:40,520 at the start now that wasn't from the book and that wasn't historical when they came 307 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:45,800 in all together like that the chariot as they all came in but he wanted to do that for a 308 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:50,200 reason to give it scope because most of the shots were really close when you're going 309 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:51,200 around corners. 310 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:56,520 No yeah this I think some of the really like unique shots he likes to do he really wanted 311 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,920 to scale this movie that's the whole. 312 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:07,760 So filmed in Rome Spain like it just goes to show like they were filming back into locations 313 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,240 back then why can't we do it now? 314 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,960 I know right even when some of them look a little bit off. 315 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:18,080 Yeah the sets weren't like the sets probably were great for back then but they weren't 316 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:19,080 great. 317 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:23,320 But he definitely like there were shots in Rome where like you when you go to Rome and 318 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:30,880 it really he likes to draw you out like yeah as it almost has this moment where he where 319 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:35,360 Judo has saved someone's life and they're accepting something and it's almost like this 320 00:17:35,360 --> 00:17:39,960 is like that Star Wars moment when they accept the medals like it harkens. 321 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,240 A lot of directors have seen this movie and I wouldn't be surprised. 322 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:47,800 On Letterboxx like it's a lot of famous actors and famous directors favorite movie. 323 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:53,600 Yeah because it's just it is a pretty epic scaled movie that yeah I think. 324 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,680 Do you want to go into our usual review? 325 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:02,960 Yeah I think let's start with that because I'm ready to talk about. 326 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,320 Reasons to see him. 327 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:08,080 Reasons to see it it's pretty epically well done this movie. 328 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:16,640 In a sense that it's amazing it's like a really great idea of using revenge and faith in 329 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:21,600 one movie which is you know never really like faith and revenge don't really go hand in 330 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,920 hand with each other but in this movie it's a big part. 331 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,120 Yeah he's learning a lesson through it. 332 00:18:27,120 --> 00:18:30,760 He's a lot yeah he's learning a lesson it's an interesting tale about it and. 333 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,840 Well he starts off as like a huge big deal. 334 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:34,840 Yeah he's like a. 335 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,560 And then he gets wrong for something he didn't commit. 336 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:42,520 Yeah and he gets punished and then he comes back to try and take punishment onto the person 337 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:43,520 that punished him. 338 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,960 Yeah he's seeking revenge he just wants. 339 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:46,960 And then he sees a lot. 340 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:52,000 He has to go through so many like different trials and stuff and there it's an epic scale 341 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,000 and scope. 342 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,880 Talk about the real reason you think to watch this. 343 00:18:55,880 --> 00:19:01,360 Okay so Charles Heston has great chemistry with anything he's on screen with. 344 00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:06,360 For some reason he's got chemistry with the horses he's got chemistry he just like immediately 345 00:19:06,360 --> 00:19:10,920 when he likes a woman he's just sizing her up and you're like wow this guy is already 346 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:11,920 on. 347 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:16,160 But um um what's his name? 348 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,160 Steven Borde. 349 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:18,160 Steven. 350 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:19,160 Massella. 351 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:20,160 Massella. 352 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:24,080 He's the villain but originally these two were friends. 353 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:28,280 And the moment they meet they're like bonding they're in love with each other. 354 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,240 So I'll give you a great story behind the scenes. 355 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:38,880 And so this was rewritten to make it a little bit shorter by Gourvardel. 356 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:44,000 And Gourvardel noted Rochonter. 357 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:56,600 He's told the Stephen Borde character to play it homo erotica because he was he was he said 358 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:03,200 he was a childhood friend he would have been um kicked back by Charlton Heston was a little 359 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:04,360 bit more popular. 360 00:20:04,360 --> 00:20:07,080 That's the reason why he saved his life as a child. 361 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:11,360 And you need to play it like this and Charlton Heston had no idea why he was playing it like 362 00:20:11,360 --> 00:20:12,360 that. 363 00:20:12,360 --> 00:20:16,160 Now so why you picked up on that thing that this is well known. 364 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,880 Now you know that there's fan fiction out there. 365 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,240 Yeah I literally wanted to look it up. 366 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,880 It's small but it's there and I bet I could find more of a. 367 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:30,000 It's a great reason to see but he didn't just have chemistry with Stephen Boyd and Marcella. 368 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,600 He had he had chemistry with the horses. 369 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,840 There's these four white horses that he deals with. 370 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:38,440 He like lovingly pats and he's like hey and they're like they're like these horses are 371 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,480 like nipping at him and stuff and he's just like hey you know. 372 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:47,360 He has more chemistry with Marcella and the horses than he does any woman in this movie. 373 00:20:47,360 --> 00:20:51,880 Yeah I would say but he like size them up to start and then eventually he's just like 374 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,880 yeah but I'm in love with my horses. 375 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,400 But the fact that Stephen Boyd was told to play it like that. 376 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:03,400 I yeah I was so enthralled because they were they were tight and then once they he used 377 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,600 him as a basically just you know to condemn him. 378 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,560 It was like an interesting it added so much tension to this plot. 379 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,600 I was just like enthralled with what was going to happen next. 380 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:21,480 Reasons not to look I think the start of the movie is a bit slow. 381 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,040 Then when you get into the battle on the boats amazing. 382 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:26,040 Boats. 383 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,360 The rowing there's like 10 minutes of just rowing. 384 00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:33,320 There's so many moments where he's just doing one action simply and it's just many different 385 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:34,320 shots. 386 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:35,960 Was Channels just trying to get in shape? 387 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,880 Yeah I was like I was like he's trying to show off here. 388 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,360 It's actually great it's entertaining. 389 00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:43,840 The fact is I'm on the edge I'm like really enthralled. 390 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,360 I'm like what is gonna happen here. 391 00:21:46,360 --> 00:21:49,200 I would say yeah and then the last 30 minutes. 392 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,600 He was like in his 30s when he made this movie. 393 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:53,960 I think he was just trying to get in shape. 394 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:58,520 Like he knew he was gonna have to play an astronaut on a planet of eight so he needed 395 00:21:58,520 --> 00:21:59,520 to get in shape. 396 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,200 You know even though it was eight years later. 397 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,760 What a career Charlton Heston had. 398 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,600 Like Ten Commandments he had this. 399 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,400 He had a Planet of the Apes. 400 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,120 Like he had the Ometa strain. 401 00:22:11,120 --> 00:22:21,360 Like he had the movie with Citizen Kane director Orson Welles Touch of Evil. 402 00:22:21,360 --> 00:22:22,360 Just amazing. 403 00:22:22,360 --> 00:22:28,440 What an absolute banging career and then he finished it with being the head of the NRA. 404 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,480 No political talk here. 405 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:33,480 Another reason not to see it. 406 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,920 Like it builds everything up to the chariot scene. 407 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,320 So they talk about the chariot scene when he's in Rome. 408 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,560 Like he's like a great chariot racer. 409 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,360 And they tease their absolute hell out of it. 410 00:22:42,360 --> 00:22:44,400 I'd say that yes. 411 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:45,400 Which by the way. 412 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,880 Because in the trailer you see the chariot scene in the trailer. 413 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,040 I would also say so it's presumed. 414 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:55,240 Could we fast forward once he gets to Rome it cuts to a couple like months ahead. 415 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,520 And he's apparently been like. 416 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:58,520 He's killing it. 417 00:22:58,520 --> 00:22:59,720 He's the best driver in the world. 418 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:00,720 Yeah. 419 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,120 He's the Lewis Hamilton Max Verstappen of chariot racing. 420 00:23:04,120 --> 00:23:10,120 If you put this movie in the 80s we would have gotten like a 20 minute montage of him 421 00:23:10,120 --> 00:23:12,680 learning the ropes. 422 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:13,680 Not the 80s now. 423 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:14,680 We would have got 100%. 424 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,760 There is a little bit with the horses when he's trying to train to take on. 425 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:19,760 Yeah. 426 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:20,760 No. 427 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:21,760 But I meant a full long one. 428 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:26,720 I would say it's building up to that chariot race because it's also the moment where he 429 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,720 claims his vengeance. 430 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:34,320 Do you know the underrated thing is the scene where. 431 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,400 The scene where they're putting the bet on. 432 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,160 Yeah. 433 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,360 Hugh Griffith trying to draw Masala out and trying to. 434 00:23:43,360 --> 00:23:46,240 Probably this is where he got his escape from. 435 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:52,040 So you had that bet that he was having in today's terms with the four to one odds of 436 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,040 the thousand scarabs. 437 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,040 Yeah. 438 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,040 That would have been worth eight billion gold. 439 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,040 Eight billion gold. 440 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,040 That's ridiculous. 441 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,040 Eight billion gold. 442 00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,040 Can you believe that? 443 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:00,040 That's why they. 444 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,600 Which makes a lot of sense why they were so shocked. 445 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,120 Now spoiler alert here for those who haven't seen the movie. 446 00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:09,120 Yeah. 447 00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:10,120 Yeah. 448 00:24:10,120 --> 00:24:11,120 Yeah. 449 00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:12,120 Well, you've got to spoil it. 450 00:24:12,120 --> 00:24:13,120 OK. 451 00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:14,600 Well, Masala dies in the chariot race. 452 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:15,600 Yeah. 453 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:16,600 Well, not in the chariot race. 454 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,600 Well, he dies because of the chariot race. 455 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:20,600 Does he pay up? 456 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:21,600 Does he pay up? 457 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:22,600 I don't think he did. 458 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:23,600 I don't think he did. 459 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:24,600 Where's that eight billion dollars worth of gold? 460 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:25,600 I don't think anyone cares. 461 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:26,600 I would. 462 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:27,600 I love all these little factoids about this movie. 463 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:34,760 I think it's interesting because it has been a long time and people just pick up different 464 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:35,760 things. 465 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:40,280 Again, I think a lot of people get recommended this movie because of, you know, just film 466 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,760 critics and everything. 467 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:46,400 And so different people who watch movies for different reasons will pick up completely 468 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,320 nonsensical things like me going those two should get together. 469 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,800 Bound to the bow. 470 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:52,800 Wow. 471 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:53,800 Yes. 472 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:54,800 A lot of people picked up on it. 473 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,800 The only one that didn't pick up on it was Charlton Heston. 474 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,800 But he was like, hmm. 475 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,120 What's happening there? 476 00:25:02,120 --> 00:25:07,840 So the real reason not to is like once a chariot scene is done, it's just such a life deal. 477 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:13,280 It's 30 to 40 minutes of just, of about, it's purely about the Christianity. 478 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,200 It's purely about the faith. 479 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,200 Yeah. 480 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:20,960 Purely about like we're watching, you watch, you watch Jesus get put to the cross. 481 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,640 Not to put it back to it. 482 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,640 Not to keep putting it back to a recent movie about Oppenheimer. 483 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:32,320 When you had the Trinity test, you still got Emily Blunt cooking. 484 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,920 I would still got Robert Downey Jr cooking like this. 485 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,480 It was very slow burn. 486 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:41,960 I would argue that we spent way too much time in a leprechaunal any that I, you know, like 487 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:47,320 Oppenheimer, I would go that that last hour is more entertaining than me watching the 488 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:48,320 Trinity test. 489 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,640 Like, like we're our background is Christianity. 490 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,440 So we sort of know the story. 491 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:58,480 But for those who aren't probably, probably don't really, it's not one of the real things 492 00:25:58,480 --> 00:25:59,480 to sell the movie on is it? 493 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:05,840 If your knowledge of, of is from Simpsons, then you've learned all you needed to. 494 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,080 Let's talk about, so that's one of the reasons not to see it. 495 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,040 So one of the reasons not to see is. 496 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,040 Spoke some Christianity. 497 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,040 Yeah. 498 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,920 It's aged poorly with some of the moments. 499 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:19,240 Just like if you go into the history of the movie or something, I would also go just reasons 500 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:20,240 not to. 501 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:21,240 Actually, yeah. 502 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,960 Reasons not to it is long and if you don't love movies about faith and vengeance, having 503 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,000 a parent like, you know, connecting too much. 504 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,000 Yeah. 505 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,320 And yeah, the leprechaunal is like, yeah, like it is just ridiculous. 506 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,440 It is insane. 507 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,720 So you talked about the Simpsons. 508 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:39,720 Go a little bit more into that. 509 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:40,720 I would go. 510 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,560 So Ben Hurd's definitely infected pop culture. 511 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,080 Like you can't argue it. 512 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,080 It hasn't. 513 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,600 You know, directors and actors and everyone loves it. 514 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,800 But the Simpsons for me, that's where I'm like, that's all I knew. 515 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,520 Like I knew Ben Hurd from. 516 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,960 Knew like a lot of like things that popped up. 517 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:01,960 Yeah. 518 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:08,640 And there was, there's just a moment I thought that would happen where Jesus gives Ben Hurd 519 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,480 some water to drink. 520 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:18,400 And in the Simpsons, there's a lovely episode called and where Simpsons, the Springfield 521 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:27,880 is hosting like a short film festival and Mr. Burns hires a Spanish knockoff of Stephen 522 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:36,880 Spielberg, Senor Spielberg, and makes himself out to be Jesus and he gives childless Ben 523 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,280 Hurd, drink up Judah, Ben Hurd. 524 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,280 And say it. 525 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,160 And Burns, you are truly the king of kings. 526 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,160 You truly are the king of kings. 527 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,640 We were saying that in the entire film. 528 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:54,080 I almost felt like everyone was going to say it at one point and I realised and then it 529 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:59,960 comes to a realisation, oh no, that was made up to insinuate that's Ben Hurd. 530 00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:06,640 So the movie was remade as well in 2016 and it was not. 531 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,320 I don't think anyone's liked the remake. 532 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,800 And it was like way too short and yeah. 533 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:19,200 I wouldn't suspect anyone because I think for the movie, at its time, it's a piece of 534 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,200 history for its time. 535 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:26,760 And also it is like an artwork, whereas when you try to recreate it and just, you know, 536 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:32,560 try to chop it into pieces and make it flushed out and new, people don't, there's no creativity 537 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:33,560 there. 538 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,160 You know, this one, this movie has identity to itself. 539 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:43,200 Is it too crass to say should you watch or should you miss Ben Hurd? 540 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,280 I would, I don't know. 541 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:54,120 It is a pretty long movie and if you don't like these themes, I would give it a miss. 542 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:59,280 So this AFI top 100 list, when it steals down to it, I've seen most of these movies, probably 543 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:00,960 a handful I haven't seen. 544 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,160 And every question is going to go back to you. 545 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,160 Should you watch or miss? 546 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,160 You're the new generation. 547 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,200 I personally would, I've watched this. 548 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,680 Like if this was on TV, I would sit down and watch it. 549 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:17,760 But I know for a fact, a general audience of anyone in my demographic would be like 550 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:18,760 miss. 551 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:23,480 Unless you're a film junkie, they do not care. 552 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,840 It's hard to say so early, but does it deserve to be on this list? 553 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:28,840 Does it deserve to be? 554 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,040 I mean, it's really hard to say because you know, there's so many. 555 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,840 What about for the Oscars alone? 556 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,480 I could totally lose it. 557 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:36,480 100%. 558 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,920 There are some Oscars, if you go through Oscar history, there are some Oscars of undeserving, 559 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:41,920 incredible. 560 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,200 This was up against some good movies like Dio, Van Franky is a great movie. 561 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,200 Young Philadelphians is a great movie. 562 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,200 And Anatomy of a Murder is a great movie. 563 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,200 No, but I'm talking about previous ones. 564 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,200 Like why did Gigi, that's about seducing young girls. 565 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:50,200 That one is Oscar. 566 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,200 That's a take. 567 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,200 It's not a take, it's the whole movie. 568 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,200 It's not a take. 569 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,200 It's not a take. 570 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,200 It's not a take. 571 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,200 It's not a take. 572 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,200 It's not a take. 573 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,200 It's not a take. 574 00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,200 It's not a take. 575 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,200 It's not a take. 576 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,200 It's not a take. 577 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,840 It's not a take, it's the whole movie. 578 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:05,840 Doesn't deserve to be higher. 579 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:11,120 So before you say doesn't deserve to be higher, in the original list, it was 28 places higher. 580 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,120 Oh, interesting. 581 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,120 And it got dropped down to 100. 582 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,760 I can see why it's in 100. 583 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,960 I could see 100% why it's here on the end. 584 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:18,960 Yeah. 585 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,560 Because one, it's like the start of like, oh, look, you know, this is where we start. 586 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:29,960 I think for any director, they'll probably put this in their top 10 or top 20. 587 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:30,960 Yeah. 588 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:38,200 But in reality, to films nowadays, we've evolved a lot more from just like, you know, just 589 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,600 nice, you know, pretty shots of chariot races. 590 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,720 Hannah, would you buy this on Blu-ray? 591 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,040 Now it's not available on any streaming services. 592 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,920 We rented this on Apple TV. 593 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:50,920 Would you buy it on Blu-ray? 594 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:51,920 Would you have physical media? 595 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:52,920 Would I have physical? 596 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:59,240 I think so because I appreciate having, especially older films, I appreciate having them on physical 597 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,240 media. 598 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:05,760 But I have, I collect a lot of older films, especially ones that no one's heard of. 599 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,400 And they will, they, some of them go out of print. 600 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,960 Like I have the last print of something because it's, it's, it's not going to exist anymore. 601 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:19,480 So the two things that will end every podcast with is would you watch this again? 602 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,320 And what is the rating for Ben Her? 603 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:23,960 Would I watch this again? 604 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,560 I watch most of the movie and I wouldn't watch the whole movie again. 605 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,440 I would probably, chariot scene and then the Marcella scene. 606 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:32,920 Like then I'd be calling it a miss. 607 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,520 And rating for this movie? 608 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:40,240 I would, I would say give it a, a golf clap. 609 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,880 I think it's just, it's definitely what it's trying to achieve. 610 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,120 This movie does incredibly well. 611 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:50,440 And that's what I, when we look at these movies, I like to look at what the movie is trying 612 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:55,960 to achieve rather than say put it up against, like I'm not going to put this movie up against 613 00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:01,040 speed racer because I have a deep appreciation and love for speed racer and it's an incredible 614 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,040 film. 615 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,400 If I keep bringing up Pop and Hymen and you keep bringing up speed racer, this is going 616 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,400 to be a long podcast. 617 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:11,240 I'm not going to bring up John Wick because John Wick is a completely, well, Vengeance 618 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,000 does play a role in John Wick as well. 619 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,440 Hannah, that was a really enjoyable conversation that we've had about Ben Her. 620 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:17,440 I really appreciate it. 621 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,360 And John Wick, the similarities, Vengeance plays a different role. 622 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:22,680 What's next on the watch list? 623 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:31,040 So tomorrow on Wednesday we'll drop What's Next, a show where we like to figure out what 624 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,560 to watch next. 625 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,520 And we'll be reviewing Napoleon, Cat Person and Royal Hotel. 626 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,200 And then later the week it's Movie News and we're looking forward to the Australian release 627 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,200 of Bottoms. 628 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,200 Yes. 629 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,200 Oh, so excited. 630 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,240 I've been wanting to watch this for such a long time. 631 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:50,680 You can also catch Kenny Gets A Movie, also our Blockbuster Showdown where we fight to 632 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,800 the death of movie knowledge. 633 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,480 Next week, What's Next Week on the AFI Top 100 Podcast. 634 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,680 So it's number 99. 635 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:03,620 And for those playing along at home, you can watch beforehand because it's on Disney Plus. 636 00:33:03,620 --> 00:33:05,840 And we also have a physical copy of this one. 637 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,840 It is Toy Story. 638 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:08,840 And absolutely classic. 639 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:15,880 This is why I think they updated it because movies like this definitely needed to be... 640 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,000 We'll go into it next week. 641 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,920 We'll talk a lot more about Toy Story, but thanks for everyone for listening today. 642 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,120 Such a different Toy Story than her. 643 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,640 And this is what the joy of the AFI Top 100. 644 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:28,640 So much. 645 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,360 For those listening for the first time, thanks for listening. 646 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:37,000 And for those watching on our usual channels, we really appreciate all the support. 647 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,120 I hope you catch up with the Ridley Scott draft. 648 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,280 That was great to have Danny there. 649 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,080 Voting convinces tomorrow. 650 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,480 Hopefully you vote for me or Hannah. 651 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,480 We do not want to hear it. 652 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:48,480 Yeah. 653 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,280 He kind of cheated and didn't watch. 654 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,920 Well, you come in and you start the podcast by saying, is Ridley Scott overrated? 655 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:56,920 I just want to kick him out. 656 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:57,920 And then he said, Black Hawk Down. 657 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:58,920 It's fine. 658 00:33:58,920 --> 00:33:59,920 Yeah. 659 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:00,920 And then he gave nothing. 660 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:01,920 He gave absolutely nothing. 661 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,920 We then went into like all the British white boys in that and then he was like, yeah, it's 662 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:07,920 fine. 663 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:08,920 It's fine. 664 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:09,920 Yeah. 665 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:10,920 Oh my God. 666 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:11,920 So you do... 667 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,760 If you vote for Danny, it's a vote for mediocrity. 668 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:16,760 Yeah. 669 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,760 You're just choosing, yeah, I like those movies. 670 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:19,760 Of course you do. 671 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:20,760 Everyone does. 672 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:21,760 Let's like just be... 673 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,760 Go for the interesting ones. 674 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,080 Well, that's my lovely co-host, Hannah. 675 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,080 I'm Peter. 676 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:34,400 Until next week, when we take a trip down memory lane with the AFI top hundred, we'll 677 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,320 catch you for a little later podcast during the week. 678 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:39,320 It's bye for now. 679 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,320 Bye.