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Welcome to our podcast, Band BFFs. The podcast

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where we make your music selection less complicated.

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On today's episode, we will be discussing March

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of the Hobgoblins by Randall Standridge. Cheers

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to starting the conversation. This is a relatively

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new piece. Let's see. It was published in 2024.

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It is a publisher grade one and a half. key of

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concert E flat or C minor and in six eight time,

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um, which I love cause I think it's a great both

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love this piece. It's so good. I think it is

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a really, really good introductory to six eight

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type of piece in typical standards fashion. There

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is lots of percussion and you really do need

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all of the percussion parts. So, uh, it's best

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if you have seven players, you could eliminate

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one. Oh, Oh, Katie's making that, I'm sorry.

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You could do it with six or seven, everybody.

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I did it with six last year. I just left out

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the bells part and kept the xylophone part because

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they're always covered in other wind players.

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But I think that the xylophone color sounds more

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like impish, like the hobgoblin. So that's why

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I kept that one in. But you could do whatever.

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Cannot leave out timpani. Yes, timpani. Yeah.

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I mean, most of that percussion is really, really

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important. So let's dive in and talk a little

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bit about this piece. It's so super cool. We

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both just love it and it's so easy to put together.

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So both Laura and I played it for a fall concert

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and we actually included this piece in one of

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our like new to, um, or maybe it was like far

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pieces or something. Yeah. At some point we did

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a little intro to this piece, but we wanted to

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make a standalone for it because both of us think

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it's great. And many times on like, You know

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social media people ask like what's a good six

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eight piece to do as an introductory piece for

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your band I'm I'm always gonna say March of the

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Hobgoblins now because it's fun. The kids love

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it They want to like go home and practice it

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so And it's got like it's just it's easy to put

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together and it's very much like a march in its

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style and form So it's easy to talk to about

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how a march works and all of that good stuff

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too at the beginning of the year I I do my very

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best to try and program something in a compound

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meter for our fall concert. If we are unable

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to make that happen for the fall concert, at

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least by the winter concert. So something in

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the first semester I try to program in a compound

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meter so that the seventh grade students are

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getting some exposure to that if they didn't

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get to that at the end of the sixth grade year,

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which often we don't. about this is that all

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of the rhythms are repeated in here. It basically

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is. You either have a measure of eighth notes...

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One lolly, two lolly. Or you have... One lolly,

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two. Yes. Or you have two dotted quarters, or

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you have the one, three, two, one. Yes. Yep.

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Um, so speaking of, so Katie and I count six,

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eight differently. Let's talk about that for

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a sec. I actually do both. So when I teach six,

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eight, I will write one, two, three, four, five,

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six with six eighth notes on the board and explain

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why it's called six eight is because of this.

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Right. But then I will say, but Sometimes when

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you're counting quickly, it's easier to say one

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lolly, two lolly. And that's how we count triplets

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when we do articulation exercise and things like

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that. So I just will show them on the board.

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We take one, two, three, four, five, six, and

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we change it to one lolly, two lolly. So when

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our foot taps, we're tapping on one and two,

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which is an easy way to keep counting in your

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head. And I, of course, tell the kids if it makes

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more sense for your brain to count it like one,

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three, four, six, do that. But Miss Lewis is

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gonna teach you and the Lees and everything because

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also our feeder high schools count that way.

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So I'm just kind of trying to set them up for

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like Laura said success and account a compound

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meter in future programming. So like Katie, I

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start off with 123456. And I will tell you, I

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have changed recently and how I count six eight

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with my students on the suggestion of the very

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brilliant David Puckett. and I have found this

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to be like my kids latched onto it really, really

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easily. We learn it first in one, two, three,

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four, five, six. Then we learn it, or then when

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the tempo gets faster, like Katie said, we talk

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about the fact that we do tap our foot two times

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per measure. And I used to, before David made

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this suggestion, I used to do the one, three,

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four, six, one, three, four, one, two, three,

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four, one, four, five, six, one, whatever it

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happened to be. we would still count the full

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six beats in the measure. But I found that some

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of the kids would have trouble, okay, where's

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beat five? Where's beat three? Like I'm losing

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those inner beats like that. So what we started

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doing is counting in one, two, three, one, two,

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three. One, two, three, one, two, three, one,

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three, one, three, one. And I have found, I mean,

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I could put a more complex rhythm on the board.

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And when they only had to chunk it in threes

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instead of sixes, it immediately cleaned up their

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counting and their comprehension of the rhythm.

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There's no right or wrong way to teach 6 -8.

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You do what works for you. You do what works

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for your kids. But that is what has worked for

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Katie and I. Yep. Perfect. So the beginning starts

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again with everybody playing a straight measure

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of eighth notes. It has a forte piano at the

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beginning with a crescendo all the way to forte.

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one lolly, two lolly, one, and then in the rest

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is the timpani part. So the timpani is huge in

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this piece. Pick like your very, very best player.

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Let them go to town because they're going to

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have so much fun with it. And again, a hobgoblin

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is like a little elf or a sprite that's like

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mischievous. So a lot of this piece is written

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like Laura mentioned in like a minor tonality.

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So it's kind of fun just to see all the chromaticism

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and everything too. And you can talk to your

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students about that. and why he would compose

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this way for something that is mischievous. Anyway,

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back to it. And then it does the same thing again.

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One lolly, two lolly, one E2, one lolly, two,

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one lolly, two, one, two, two, one. And those

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all have accents. One lolly, two, one lolly,

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two. So it gives the kids another advantage to

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like bringing out the accents and understanding

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where the foot tap falls and everything. I love

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the forte piano crescendo on the measures that

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have six eighth notes. eighth notes in them.

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I think that's easy for kids to latch on to.

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It's a great way to teach a four tapiano crescendo.

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Okay. We're going to be at a level eight and

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then you're going to drop to a two and then it's

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a eight, two, three, four, five, six, seven that

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you're welcome. Yes. Okay. But like I think that

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having the straight eighth notes makes that really

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easy. Every eighth note gets just a little bit

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louder. It's an easy way to teach that for sure.

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Um, and then we reach measure nine, which is

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the first, uh, you know, The beginning is the

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introduction, uh, just like in any March. So

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you can teach that to the students for like form.

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Um, at nine, this is the, the first time we have

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the melody and it's in flute, oboe, clarinet,

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and trumpet. And it's very crisp and trumpet

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is not split in parts here. So they're all on

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the same part. And then bells and xylophone as

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well. Yep. It's one. Yeah. One three one or one

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Lee, two Lee, one Lee, two Lee, one Lee, two

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Lee, one and they're marked staccato. So you're

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going to teach the kids to make everything very

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lifted and light, like the little hobgoblin is,

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you know, bouncing around. The low people all

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have one, two. one two one two one two lolly

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one but they have a lot of chromatic or chromaticism

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is huge in this piece so making sure that your

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students all like this is a great introduction

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again to like and harmonic notes and you can

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review that with kids you know at the beginning

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of the year or end of the year with a band that

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is is still developing um it goes back and forth

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between a natural and a flat and the trombone

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part a lot and d natural and d flat so really

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honing in on like fourth and fifth position and

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second and third is a big deal in this piece

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and that's why I think I like it so much is because

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it's not difficult rhythmically, but you can

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then go back and focus on things like are we

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truly in fifth position on this D flat? I have

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two things in this section to be mindful of.

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The baseline has those dotted quarter notes and

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they are marked staccato, but I would really

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treat those more like lifted notes. They should

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not sound like da, da, da. They need a little

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more, yeah, a little more resonance to them.

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So be mindful of that. And then what your students

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are going to want to do, this is phrased in four.

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It's written in four bar phrases. One, three,

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one, three, one, three, one, three, one, three,

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one, three, one, one, three, one, three, one.

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They're going to want to breathe after every

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dotted half note for sure. Making sure that you

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address that with them and have them thinking

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about the phrasing from the beginning. Yeah.

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And you can even stagger that and say half of

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you get to breathe after. the first dotted half

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note in 12, and some of you can breathe after

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the second dotted half note in 14. Or if they

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can make it all the way to 16, they can breathe

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between two dotted quarter notes. So again, yes,

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that's a great way of teaching like how to take

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in sneaky breaths in six, eight time, because

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you're going to usually have rhythms like that

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and whatever you play. Whenever the long note

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happens in the melody, the lows always have one,

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two, lolly, one, one, two, lolly, one. bringing

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that. It's like a back -and -forth conversation

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between the highs and the lows, which I think

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is really fun, too. At 17, now the melody changes

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from being simpler with one, one -lee -two -lee

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to one -la -lee -two -la -lee -one. So they have

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to tongue. But it's basically subdividing. That's

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all of a sudden. It's the same melody, but now

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it's subdivided. But it's faster articulation

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for young developing players. But I think it's

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great because it's not like you're moving on

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every single note. It's the same three notes.

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on the beat, so it's like CCC. D D D E flat E

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flat E flat F F F for like the flute part. So

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that's nice because then they just have to focus

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on the articulation, but they're not having to

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move their fingers on every single beat with

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it. Um, so it makes them feel really successful

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when they can do that. And it's fun to tongue

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fast for those kids. And I think it's a, I think

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it's a really good teaching tool as well for

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articulation. Like do all six of those eighth

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notes sound exactly the same, right? As your

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tongue touching in the same place every time.

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Yep. Um, then we go to, uh, a big timpani solo

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in measure 24 at the end of that phrase. And

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now we have a new section at 25. The whole band

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has one, two, one, two, and then Lowe's have

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one, Lee, two, Lee, one as a response. Everybody.

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everybody than the low brass. So like your lows

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are going to really like this piece because they're

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not their piece or their part is not like sad

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town. It's not the accompaniment the whole time

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they get to have responses. They get to be important

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and kind of stand out. All of these notes have

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accents on them. So most of them have the Marcato

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accent and then some of them have the house top

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accents. So it's just good to make sure again,

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you can teach those differences and how stylize

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that. I would, I found in this section that my,

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even though like the first note is written accented,

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the second one is that Marcato accent, right?

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So we should have da, da, da, da, but they wanted

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to like crescendo, da, da. That's what I found

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like my kids wanted to do. So we had to like

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talk about, okay, wait a second, look at the

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shape of the note. That's the opposite direction.

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You're ballooning the note and not putting that

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accent on there. So, um, but again, that it's,

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uh, it's, it's great for helping them identify

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that. Look at what you look at what you see on

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the page, interpret it and execute that. Yeah,

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it's very stylistic, but it's again, a great

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teaching piece in between. Um, each time that

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the lows would go one Lee to Lee one, Tiffany

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goes one Lolly to Lolly. one. So it's like this

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big piece where it's just people talking back

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and forth basically. And the timpani is really

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important. Then we have the same little moment

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again at 33 and then at 37, the whole band comes

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down to mezzo piano. I know that when I played

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this piece, I make them all cross that out and

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we changed it to mezzo piano instead of mezzo

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forte to keep it really, really low. One, two,

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one, two, then another forte piano, just like

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the beginning. One lolly, two lolly, one lolly.

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two lolly one two. two one and so it's kind of

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like the intro back again then it's a percussion

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feature which is really fun yes and like it's

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you don't always have a percussion feature in

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a march so this is makes it really cool for your

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percussion feature is timpani i mean like of

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course one loli two loli one loli one they have

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a whole they have a whole melody that timpani

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does here so there's no mallet percussion playing

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in this section you have your snare drummer your

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bass drummer and then the timpani is really featured

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here, so it's really, it's a cool little percussion

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feature. As we get into measure 51, this is what

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you would consider the trio of a traditional

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march, which I like, even though this is a little

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bit different, called March of the Hobgoblins,

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we did talk about that this would be... this

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would be considered a trio. Um, it is softer.

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It features the clarinet section, the melody

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changes here. Um, and it's more like woodwind

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and some thinned out low brass. Um, it goes to

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wood blocks, kind of like you could do like a

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traditional March triangle. Um, so the clarinets

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have the melody and then we just have like chords

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from low brass. Um, and then the mids are just

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doing long chords as well. It's very, Very, very

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smooth. No more accents in this section. And

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then the clarinets are finishing out their melody

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at measure 63. And then it's like the little

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mischievous hobgoblin showed up again. Then it

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goes back. Sneaky in there. And then now it's

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just, it's right underneath the long note in

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the clarinet. And it's marked mezzo piano. I

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mean, it just needs to be sneaky. then at measure

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67 the flute and oboe add in with the clarinet

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joining on that melody now we have in the bells

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and the bells now we have full ensemble playing

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and the trumpets are doing a little interjection

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yeah like a little heroic fanfare and theirs

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is written staccato so why we have two one two

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one two one two one two one two one two one just

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a cool little uh back and forth yep And then

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at 75, everybody basically has... something you

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either have the melody or you have the accompaniment

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part, but the whole band is finally playing here.

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I don't think we were all playing before. Yes,

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we were. Okay. So it continues on. And then we

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crescendo up again with help from snare drum

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and timpani. And we have the same as what we

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had at the beginning at 79 for tapiano back down.

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One, Lolly, two, Lolly, one, two, timpani, one,

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Lolly, two, Lolly one. Just like the beginning.

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And then 87 is like, Thank you. the final, I

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guess, hurrah. So now the trumpets have the melody

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with clarinets and xylophone, but the flutes

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and oboes get this cute little and bells, this

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cute little chromatic like line above them. And

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yeah, it's so cute and it's easy. It's just one,

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two, one, two, one, two, one, two, one, two,

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one, two. So it's just on the beats while the

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melody is still happening in the back and forth

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is happening with the low brass. And it is the

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new thing. So I do think it's important to make

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sure that it's heard, but you don't want it to

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completely be a wet blanket over everything else

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that's happened. It is really important, but

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they're like, I know my flutes would always get

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excited about this part and get a little, you

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know, like, okay, let's calm down a little bit.

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We still got to, we still got to hear the other

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parts. Yeah. At 95, we get the same articulated

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rhythm from the beginning. One, Lolly, two, Lolly,

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one, Lolly, two, Lolly, one, Lee, two, Lee, one.

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So it's the same thing again. Flutes are continuing

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that little chromatic thing with oboe and then

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they finally joined back on the melody at 99

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And then we have another little timpani interlude

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at 102 but this time The timpani is decrescendoing

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because the full band is gonna come back in at

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a piano dynamic at 103 and that's on snare Yep.

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Oh, I'm sorry. I said timpani, but yeah, snare

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drum there. And then the band has one lead to

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the one lead to the one to timpani again. Then

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the full band has dotted quarter notes going

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on and then big timpani moment at 111 timpani

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solo along with tambourine kind of like backing

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them up in the background. One lead to lully

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one lead to lully one two and the full band has

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that at the end. So it's, it's so much fun and

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like we just basically sang for you. There's

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only like four different rhythms in the piece.

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So it's a great, like we said, intro to six,

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eight, without it getting too complicated to

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where they're like, I don't know, is that on

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the law or the Lee or whatever? Um, you know,

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there's it's just makes it come together so quickly

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and you can go pretty quick on it. And so the

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kids really enjoy doing that on a march. Yeah.

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And I love kind of related to the speed, like

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Katie was talking about. Um, it doesn't have

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to be like, I think you have a little flexibility.

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on the tempo for sure. Right. It's not like a

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locked in at one 20 and that's what it has to

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be. So if you want to push it a little more,

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make it a little more energetic and exciting,

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you have the opportunity to do that. Yes. Well,

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we hope you will consider programming March of

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the Hobgoblins in the future. And thank you for

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joining us on this episode of band BFFs.
