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Welcome to our podcast, Band BFFs. The podcast

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where we make your music selection less complicated.

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On today's episode, we will be discussing Triumphs

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by Joshua Hinkle. Cheers to starting the conversation.

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This piece is in the key of concert B flat. It's

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four four throughout. It's really a fanfare,

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right? It is three minutes long It does not it's

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pretty straight ahead It's got split clarinet

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part split alto parts and split trumpet and trombone

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parts Percussion is really straight ahead five

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percussion parts There is a relatively active

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percussion two part, but it can be covered by

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one player The timpani part is very important.

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You can't leave that out in as in a normal fanfare

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Yes, and the snare drummer you need the snare

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drummer. It's a really fast piece. We're going

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about 144 BPM here So you want to make sure your

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snare drummer is really solid and has got nice?

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Touch a control at that tempo and even the mallet

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part is pretty active as well. Yeah. Yep So,

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um, as Laura mentioned, it's a fanfare and so

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it's pretty standard in that regard. Lots of,

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you need pretty solid brass, um, especially you

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need solid high brass. Yeah. Trumpet horn and

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alto. Yeah. And Laura and I were saying this

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would be a great piece for like a spring concert

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for a top band where you could kind of put it

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together, top middle school band where you could

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kind of put it together pretty quickly, or it

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would be a great piece that you could work on

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for a while. with like a non -varsity group that

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has good high brass. Or this would be great for

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a fall concert for a sub non -varsity or non

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-varsity high school group as well. It's just

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it's a wonderful well -written piece without

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a ton of just difficult rhythms and things like

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that. So when it starts out active percussion

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like Laura mentioned The woodwinds are kind of

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just doing like an accompaniment part, setting

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up the pulse at the very beginning. It's all

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staccato, so it just kind of sounds like... They're

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just setting it up, but the rhythm is easy to

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count. At measure five, high brass comes in,

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trumpet, horn, and sax. The way that it's written

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in the introduction, the rhythm in the flute

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and oboe is slightly different than that of the

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clarinet in order to make sure that you hear

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straight eighth notes all the way, but they are

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given a little bit of a... break and I would

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not personally especially the range where this

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is written clarinet is up high both parts are

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over the break we've got the first clarinet on

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G above the staff and the second clarinet on

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the register C the third space and the xylophone

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is playing the same part as this so work to get

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those upper woodwinds to match the clarity of

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articulation that the xylophone has I don't think

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you have to be overly concerned with how crisp

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it is just that the first of the fronts of the

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notes matches the same articulation in the mallets.

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Yep. So the timpani, again, has an important

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part in measures three and four as the intro

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is closing. Five, the first melodic section comes

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in, again in high brass and saxophone, just a

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dotted quarter note rhythm, one and two, or sorry,

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one and three, one and three, four, and it goes

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up to a top. line F for trumpet. Big skips in

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the trumpet. Both trumpet parts, trumpet one

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and two, they're unison here. So you have to

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have a pretty good trumpet section that can do

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that. Again, it's not split here in harmony.

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The horn part is not difficult right now, they're

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just playing the chords underneath. One of the

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things that will help make this skip in the trumpets

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better, it goes from a G in the staff to a top

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line F, so that's a pretty significant leap that

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you want to play with control. but it's nice

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because the high F is articulated. So they are

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not having to slur up that distance. They at

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least get to articulate, which will help. Yep.

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And then at nine, the low brass comes in kind

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of like a big, you know, with the bass drum,

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like a big bomb, you know, everybody comes in

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and holds. Woodwinds are still doing the exact

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same thing. 13 oh timpani has the little last

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response at measure 12 13 now the high brass

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go to the accompaniment part and the bells flute

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oboe clarinet and sax all have the melody and

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again clarinet one and two alto one and two everybody's

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on the melodic line so there it's not like a

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harmony part everybody's playing up high saxes

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go to above the staff a clarinets are all again

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mostly over the break on the melody. Flutes are

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going up to C above the staff. So you just have

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to be careful about especially some cross tuning.

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Yeah really I think it's the tuning issues between

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the flute and the saxophone especially are going

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to be things on those longer value notes, the

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half notes that you have that you're going to

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need to be mindful of. I do also think the clarity

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of articulation, the xylophone stops playing

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the eighth note pulse at this point and so that

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pulse is just brought to you by the trumpets,

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horns and tenor sax. So I think you are going

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to have to be a little more mindful about the

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clarity of articulation. especially in the horns

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to make sure that they match the trumpet and

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the tenor sax here. And then I would also say

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be really careful or I guess mindful, thoughtful

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about where the kids are going to breathe. Yes.

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Because it's going to be common for them to want

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to all breathe after three measures because it's

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after a half note in the melody. So I would like,

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you know, assign A's and B's or whatever odds

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and evens to make sure that everybody's not breathing

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at the exact same time during the melody, whether

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that's no matter who has the melody when they

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do, just make sure everybody's taking different

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staggered breaths. Then again, we have another

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drone, like Laura said, at 17. Everybody comes

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in and holds. The trumpets are the only ones

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with that eighth note accompaniment now. Another

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big timpani moment at 20, along with some chord

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changes in the middle and tenor voices going

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into 21. So it's setting us up for this new idea

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at measure 21. At 21, we kind of get this bold.

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Accented statement. This is really where a lot

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of times fan fairs start with a big fanfare statement

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This really has a pretty lengthy introduction

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and 21 is the first part that I really feel like

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you get that fanfare. And it's accented. It hasn't

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been accented until now. Now rhythmically this

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is really straight ahead. It's accented on every

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note for every part. The rhythm is really easy

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but the range like the first trumpets are sitting

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on E's and F's at the top of the staff and of

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course that means flutes are on D's and E flats

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above the staff so and and the clarinets again

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are in the same range as those first trumpets.

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So cross tuning considerations as well but big

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thing for me, and Katie addressed this a little

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bit earlier, this is written where you have,

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it should be a four or eight bar phrase, but

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you have a half note for everybody at the end

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of the second measure, and that is going to be

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a place, and there is no percussion that's kind

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of helping to cross the bridge over the bar line,

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so making sure that they are playing in those

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longer valued phrases, and at 144 BPM, that really

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should not be a problem, right? And then after

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this first statement at 25 the snare drum comes

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back in kind of takes over a little bit of the

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like activity The drone people kind of come back

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and everybody's got a tied note while only the

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upper woodwinds keep going on the fanfare So

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it's just flute oboe all clarinet clarinet is

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now in octaves So that's a tuning thing. You

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got to pay attention to as well and then bells

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and speaking of octaves The low brass have the

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same part here, also in octaves. So again, just

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be mindful of that. These are not difficult notes

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or anything, but you just need to be aware that

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tuning may be something that you need to spend

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some time on, especially if it's a younger ensemble.

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At 27, it changes to into con amore. So it's

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still written in four, but you can conduct it

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more in two -four. It's got more of that flowy

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feel. Yeah. So that's fun that we said the exact

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- I can't believe we just said flowy feel, I

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know, yeah. We did not plan that, everybody.

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So we've been doing this too long. I guess so.

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Yeah. So - It's softer. This is definitely a

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little more lyrical. It's mezzo -piano. Yes,

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it's definitely lyrical. Only the horn has kind

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of like the counter melody line with like sax,

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tenor sax. low reed. There's no other brass playing

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here. The melody is in flute, oboe, and clarinet.

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And the clarinets are all on the same notes as

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well as flute and oboe. So no harmony. They're

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just, they're playing the melody. And it's really

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just drone harmony behind them. Yeah. And again,

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you want to talk about breathing because they're

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going to, again, want to play a four measure

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phrase and breathe. In this case, the tenor sax,

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alto, and horn do have like a line where they

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could cover the breath if you wanted. them to

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all breathe after four measures, or you could

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tell the kids to push through the phrase and

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take a sneak breath in like 32 and 33, which

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is what I would do. That was exactly what I would

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do as well. I would try to avoid that bar line

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breath as much as possible. I would too, but

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they're, you know, too thorough. Yeah, that's

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exactly right. Yes. And then in 34, as we're

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going into 35, which is the next box number,

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the lower voices, low brass come in on beat three,

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and they kind of take over. over that harmonic

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structure that the sax and horn were doing before.

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Now the horn and the alto go to a true counter

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melody line with the flute, oboe, clarinet, and

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now adding in the trumpet on the melody. So bringing

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out that line I think would be pretty cool. The

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range on the melody now in the trumpet, flute,

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and clarinet is much more reasonable. It's lower,

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it's in the staff. So it is set up, the range

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for the counter melody however is a little bit

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higher. So yeah, we've got the horns going all

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the way up to a high F. It's gonna be easy to

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feature that counter melody because of the range.

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But again, just making sure that your altos and

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horns can blend really well together. We don't

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want this in the horn part to sound forced. This

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should sound relaxed and just, again, it's mezzo

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piano, so relaxed and just really pretty. Um,

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as we, there's like a little Mark Tree moment

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at 42. Percussion has been out. Percussion is

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just chilling. And it's like a chorale feature

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for the band. Um, at 43 now the bells come back

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in. Um, I don't know if it's bells or xylophone

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at this moment. I think this is bells. I think

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it's still bells too. Yeah. So they come back

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in and they, they have the same thing as flute

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and oboe, which is just playing two, three, four,

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one, two. It's just back and forth, not important.

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The melody is an alto saxophone solo. So if it

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were me, I would probably make the flute and

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oboe part either be one on a part or maybe two

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flutes and one oboe so that that part's not overwhelming

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if not everybody can play soft enough to feature

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a saxophone. All the other woodwinds have, which

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is just bassoon, bass clarinet, and clarinet,

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they have just chords underneath, no brass. I

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agree. I think your options are either thin out

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the woodwind accompaniment in order to hear the

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saxophone solo or make it a saxophone solee.

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Right. If your saxophone section can play, and

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this is not rhythmically, it's not hard, even

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tuning wise, it's really not crazy. There's a

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couple of things above the staff you might have

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to be mindful of. But for the most part, you

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could make this a saxophone solee and probably

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fix your volume issues. But there's also no harm.

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at all if you want it to be a solo, then just

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thin out the accompaniment. I do think you will

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probably need to do one of those two things in

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order to hear the clarity in this line like you

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want. Yep. Then at 51... There's, we have another

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kind of like, I would call it like the drone

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again, sort of, a bunch of people come in on

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beat one and hold, then we're getting softer

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and softer, low brass comes in. And then in 53,

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there's a little tiny flute solo for two measures,

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then a little clarinet solo right after that.

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So we're kind of featuring some of the upper

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woodwind parts. We pass this little line one

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for one. And then the trumpet one has the solo.

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last in the quote unquote in two section. Then

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it's marked at 58 to go back to in four because

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now the style is changing back to what we had

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at the beginning. Now I think in this more lyrical

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section that we had before also the drone like

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Katie mentioned the drone that the low brass

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have there in fifths a lot of the way through

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there. So tuning wise that should be and they're

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all relatively secure notes. You have a D flat

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thrown in there a G flat D flat I think somewhere

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in there that you might need to be You know G

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flat G. Okay, there we go But but for the most

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part like it's they're locked in in fifths. So

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harmonically that should be relatively simple

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Yep, then at 59 we come back with the same thought

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from before flute oboe clarinet and xylo have

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the one and two and three and four and again

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They continue on snare becomes more active timpani

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is featured again just like the beginning 63

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we have for the first time the low brass get

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the melody so they take over and low reads all

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the woodwinds are now doing these like contrary

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motion eight notes so like flute and a bar going

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one and two and one and two and and clarinets

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are going one and two and one and two and so

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it's the background part but you know you want

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to make sure that that doesn't clash or sound

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too loud and then some of the other parts like

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sax, bassoon, bass clarinet they just have one

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and They have these little like staccato rhythmic

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hits. Now the bells doubles what's happening

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in flute and oboe and the range that it's written

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in for bells plus what it's written in for flutes

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plus the contrary motion range that the clarinets

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are in. You may experiment with only having one

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or two of your flutes play it in the octave it's

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in and taking it down. You might have your bell

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player take it down an octave. or your clarinets

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just really project because where it's written

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with bells and flutes doubling in that same octave

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they will overpower the clarinets. That's right.

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Yep. So this again is the low brass feature and

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by low brass I mean trombones. Because euphonium

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and tuba have the same part as bassoon and bass

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clarinet. And trumpet. And technically bass clarinet

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and tenor sax have the melody along with trombone.

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But making sure again we're not all taking breaths

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after the three measures of the melody so that

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it sounds seamless is important. We come back

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in with our hit at 67. I'm doing the motion.

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I'm sorry. I'm sorry you're missing it. And so

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everybody's got that little drone there. And

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then 68 is just the same thing. Active snare,

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we've got a little harmonic change at 69 going

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into 70. 70 is the timpani getting a moment again.

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Now we've got another new little moment at 71.

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That trombone tenor line melody is now in flute

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oboe clarinet, but there's an alto sax solo again.

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And it's kind of like the melody, but it's like...

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Is it a soli? It's a soli, yeah. Sorry, but it's

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just in the first alto part, so if you only have

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two altos, it would be a solo, unless you wanted

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them both to play or whatever. It's kind of like

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the melody, but it's like fancy melody. Yeah,

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it's like a decorated melody, but it does have

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the skeleton of the melody before. But you would

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want it to be brought out for sure. And I was

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just thinking, if I were to play this at my spring

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concert, I might let the alto saxophone section

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or soloist stand up because it's just like at

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my spring concert, like that might be kind of

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fun. If you're playing it again at like a fall

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concert, you could have the soloist stand. I

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mean, there's no rule against that or whatever,

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make them feel special and featured. So you could

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do that to feature the flute and the clarinet

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and the trumpet solo that happened earlier during

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the middle section if you wanted to. I mean,

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why not? in with sleigh bells here which is kind

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of an unusual color to add at this point it's

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interesting sounding but totally different it's

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one of the things that I think makes this one

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it's it's like a little four bar it's very short

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but kind of a unique little interjection into

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this whole fanfare idea after that idea we go

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back 75 we've got a chord trumpets are back on

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the little staccato accompaniment part like we

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spoke about before timpani has another moment

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again leading us into 79 we're back to the accented

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bold section one two three and four one two three

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don't breathe one two three and four and the

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trumpets are trumpet one is Up at the top of

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the staff and they're playing G above the staff

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flutes are above the staff So this is gonna be

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a cross tuning thing This is exactly like what

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we had before with the low brass and octaves

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kind of moving down a B -flat scale and then

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that cross tuning like we mentioned before with

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the the true fanfare type section here, it's

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exactly Exactly like what you had before out

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to one horn have a little like counter melody

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moment at 82 going into 83 and 84 there's a trill

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that comes in in the upper woodwinds I would

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have that be either one on a part or marked piano

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and then at 85 we it is marked heroically and

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now the trumpets continue on in the melody the

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horns and altos have a counter melody line at

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like 88 89 that you'll want to bring out and

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then the upper people are doing something different,

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but it's basically the same thing as the beginning

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where it's like one, and two, and three, and

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four, and but this time it's just one, and two,

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and three, and four, and they're just changing

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different intervals. Yeah, there's bigger skips

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here than it was at the beginning, and the trumpet

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part is slightly different. Same rhythm, same

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idea, but slightly different, slightly different

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notes. We're just building, you can tell, I mean

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this is building to the finish. We're building

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it up to the end, yep. 89 flute oboe clarinet

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take over the melody everybody else is on just

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like changing chords so you'll just want to make

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sure you balance that correctly where you can

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still hear the tuba 91 starts a cool little bell

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tones section yeah um each part that comes in

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is marked forte piano, and with an accent, so

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you'll have to work on making sure that each

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new entrance is heard. I'm sure Laura and I both

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do this, we'll usually bop this. That's exactly

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what I was gonna say, I would bop it. To where

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you can hear the front, and make sure that each

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entrance is just as strong as the section before

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that, which sometimes that can be difficult,

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like on the first one, it's tuba, bari, sax,

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bass, clarinet, second one, bassoon, tenor, sax.

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euphonium might be a little more difficult to

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hear who knows. Next one is trombone only. Yep,

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and then the next one is horn and alto so that

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trombone only one Might need a beef up like you

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might either need to have them play it stronger

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or maybe have tenor sax join them You know I

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always kind of mess around with writing if I

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can't hear one of the entrances I might say okay

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tenor sax you come in there instead or bassoon

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you come in there instead so that each one you

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always hear one three one, three, and you can

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hear each of them the same way. And relate this.

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I'm sure many of you do concert F around the

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room with your band. Relate this to concert F

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around the room. Everybody's entrance needs to

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sound the same, right? You need to match volume.

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You need to match energy. And then, of course,

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once they get that, you can work on the piano

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part of the forte piano and making sure they

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stay out of the way. There is a crescendo written

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right before measure 95. And so add that in.

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But the difficulty is, especially those people,

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those to the very bass clarinet that come in

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four measures before, because this builds over

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the course of four measures, making sure that

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they sustain at piano the entire time until we

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get to that crescendo measure. So don't overdo

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it. At 95, everybody comes in with accents again,

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one and two, and then four, one is like tuba,

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bari, sax, bass, clarinet, timpani, and then

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horn has a written like F G, but it's written

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where you can also play it up an octave, which

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if you've got a stellar horn section, that'd

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be fun because you can kind of feature them a

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little bit with the saxophones. Yeah. Yep. And

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then we're closing out to the just a big one

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and two. Again, another horn alto moment kind

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of in response to all of this. They are the ones

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who fill in the gaps. Everyone's holding a half

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note tied to a whole note and the horn and alto

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are moving on half notes there. Just a nice finish.

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Upper voices, it's really divided in two where

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we have upper voices and middle and lower voices.

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Big statements on beat one and then three, one,

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three from everybody else. until you end with

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a big chord, all accents, you end with a forte

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piano crescendo. eight beat chord building to

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your stinger with just snare drum and timpani

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and timpani big timpani doing cool stuff at the

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end yeah and then a little last chord for everybody

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this is it's three minutes long so uh you know

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maybe slightly a little bit longer than maybe

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the average fanfare but really good i think it's

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written very well um if your players if you've

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got strong players like katie mentioned at the

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beginning especially in the high brass uh section

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i think this could be a great concert opener

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and something fun for your kids. Or even closer.

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That's true, yeah. All right, well we hope you

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will consider programming Triumphs in the future

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and thank you for joining us on this episode

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of Banned BFFs.
