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Welcome to our podcast. Band BFFs. The podcast

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where we make your music selection less complicated.

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On today's episode, we are going to be talking

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about Hsien by Earl J. Fox Jr. Cheers to starting

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the conversation. Okay, so this piece is about

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three and a half minutes long. It's in the key

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of A flat, so keep that in mind. It does have

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two clarinet parts, two alto parts, two trumpet

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parts, two trombone parts, a slew of percussion.

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You can really, if you had a minimal amount of

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percussion, you could get away with five, but

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six is really, six or seven would be ideal to

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make sure all the little accessory parts are

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covered well. This piece was written in 2015.

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So it's You know been around for a little while.

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It's a Texas PML grade two And it's got us. It's

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a slow fast slow. Yeah piece just in general

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It's only about 90 measures long, but the slower

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portion is a little bit longer It's not like

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an eight measure intro and then it's fast the

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rest of the time It's a little bit of both and

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it calls for a flute soloist to clarinet soloist

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and a trumpet soloist yeah so lots of yeah mature

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items that would need to be present for sure

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so as mentioned it starts off Adagio marked at

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72 there's a flute solo a little clarinet it's

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like a clarinet I don't know it's not a solo

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it's kind of just echoing they just have to play

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FDF FDF, they're just echoing to the flutes.

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But there's a little motor part in second clarinet

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doing the one and two and three and four and

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at that tempo it's the only pulse going on in

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the ensemble and it's real important that that

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be in time and even. They're the metronome and

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then percussion's just doing little accessory

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things like suspended cymbal roll, little triangle

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hits. The flute solo obviously is what needs

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to be brought out. The rhythm is rest two e and

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a three four long yes and that note has to go

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all the way to the rest and you don't want any

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of the slurs to sound clipped like Laura mentioned

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that clarinet two part you want it to just sound

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teach them a DAW syllable. Whole note air like

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I would tell them whole note air through all

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of that and we're just denting the air on those

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two articulations per measure. Yep. It's just

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the woodwinds playing at the beginning and then

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at measure four as more voices come in euphonium

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and alto sax have a little four -y and a one

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that leads us into the next little section. So

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you want to make sure that that's brought out

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and moves right together. The first trumpet gets

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to now double what the flutes had and then the

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oboes come in as well and it's up high on C and

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D for the trumpet part. And then we're continuing

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on with like the clarinets doing that moving

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metronomic part except now it's all the clarinets

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and they're all playing the same thing. It's

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in a nice range for clarinet. Oh, yeah, so it's

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right now Yeah, right now exactly the flutes

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and the trumpets are up pretty high So flutes

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have like going up to a high E flat one and two

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a one three four And that's probably the hardest

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rhythm in the whole piece is just the dotted

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eight sixteenths. Yeah, but they're always in

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the slower rhythm Trumpets have the same thing.

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So they're going up to a high F Then we're kind

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of coming down Musically into measure nine where

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we all want to release on beat one now. It's

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a brass choir So it was a woodwind choir then

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everybody played now to brass choir at nine now

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Katie's already talked a little bit about this

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But I'm addressing right here in measure eight

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before we get to the brass choir and measure

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nine in the flute oboe and trumpet We have a

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tongue slur tongue slur tongue tongue while the

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clarinets are slurring everything and you want

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to make Absolute certain that they don't clip

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the ends of those slurs like Katie was talking

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about earlier in a two note slower like that,

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your kids are gonna go tee -yah, tee -yah, especially

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the trumpets as they're ascending, well they

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all are ascending there, so be very mindful of

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that. So now we're on the brass choir at nine

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and the trumpets get the melody the trumpet one

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And then the horn and the euphonium have a cool

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little counter melody here. That is I would say

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Equally as important as the melody and then the

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trombone and trombone and tuba parts are just

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kind of back for like harmonic harmonic chords

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Yeah, but this is again where you don't want

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anything to be like too short. So one two three

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and one don't breathe two and three and four

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so that's kind of tricky for trumpets right they're

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gonna have to push their air through going from

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the a to the upper D and keeping it in tune I'm

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focusing a lot on that because this little thing

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comes back and back and back where the trumpets

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have to constantly go up from an a to a D and

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be aware and be not flat so especially as I get

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more tired at the end of the piece those D's

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have to be like very in tune um I know I've adjudicated

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this piece not often but a couple times and just

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those upper D's in the trumpet if it's not exact

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it bugs me so that could just be me but Who knows?

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Like I mentioned, the euphoniums and horns have

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this cool little doodly part where they're kind

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of moving around a little bit. French horns are

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going up to a high D, euphoniums are just going

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to a G, but then even the tubas at 12 have one,

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two, and three, and four, a one, and just keeping

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that all moving right together is super critical.

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And as legato as possible, like it is marked

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legato, it says legato, but you know, I mean,

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just keeping that as smooth as... possible especially

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for brass players not to stereotype but sometimes

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younger brass players see moving notes and they

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think ooh tongue firm, tongue firm. So we want

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it to be clearly defined but really smooth. Yep

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now the alto clarinet and flute are doing what

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the alto and the euphonium did before so now

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they have four and a one and now we're back to

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full band again at 13. The horn and euphonium

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are continuing their little counter melody but

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now we've added in alto two, and then the trumpets

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are continuing their melody. But we've added

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an alto one, clarinet one, clarinet, or sorry,

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flute one, or flute, and oboe. So that's a lot

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of people on the melody, and it's up pretty high

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on everybody's instrument. So just making sure

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again that we're cross -tuning and making everything

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sound the same. At 16, we kind of come down a

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little bit in our dynamic. And then at 17, we're

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back to just a woodwind feature. have dropped

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out. So we're back to flute oboe clarinet melody.

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and this is about to be kind of towards the the

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end of this little section but we're going to

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crescendo one last time from 20 to 21 where the

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brass come back in uh we're back to the trumpet

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melody now the flute and clarinet have kind of

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like a little obligato type melodic part it's

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not the melody um the trumpets have the melody

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but it's also not that counter melody that horn

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and alto have it's just kind of like an in between

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just a little bit more doodly one and two three

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and a four and one and two and three four so

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it's just got a little bit more movement to it

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but it's got to be 100 % in time. Notice we haven't

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said anything about percussion yet. There's been

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no time keeping percussion. Yeah, so literally

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this piece is so tricky because the band has

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to be constantly counting one and two and not

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slowing down, not speeding up. It's just kind

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of tricky. And I would do exactly what Katie

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just said. As we're rehearsing it, that's exactly

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what I would turn the met off and I would make

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the band accountable for counting out loud and

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subdividing that pulse when they're not playing.

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When you're not playing you should be saying

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out loud one and two and three and four and or

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whatever if you like a or whatever system you

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like, but making the students accountable for

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pulse and subdivision throughout this slow section.

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Yep, because it's definitely needed. Then that's

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again a four measure 2D section. Now we're back

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to just the woodwinds at 25. We're getting slower

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and slower. We're back to the flute and clarinet

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little melody part just like the beginning, except

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this time we're gonna end on a fermata note.

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And it's just the flutes that have that last

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fermata notes so the band has one three and they're

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holding on three but the flutes have flute solo

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one and two and three four so it's just a little

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bit tricky you want to make sure you have a good

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flute soloist who can be okay playing alone on

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their own little part then you're gonna cut off

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and the tempo is gonna go about twice as fast

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144 and now the percussion It's very lively.

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Very lively and very likely to play way too loud.

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Yeah, so while the the style has changed and

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we had this like real like contemplative, that's

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the word, contemplative part, now it's like kind

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of like the dance -y part, right? So it's more

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energetic, it's fun, low brass, have the melody

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now, and it's Mark Staccato. So this reminds

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me, Katie and I were talking before, me very

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much of Brave Spirit not only in the in the tonality

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and like the the melodies but also the style

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starting with that flute feature at the beginning

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that's slow and then now we've got a faster paced

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tempo with a lot of style and it's just it's

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score it's it's written and orchestrated very

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similarly I think to Brave Spirit yep so they

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have staccato one and three and then an accent

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four one two and three four one so over and over

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you've got to really concentrate on those accents

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versus the staccatos and all low brass have it

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not low reeds just low brass including tuba Then

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you have a long tenuto beat for for one so it's

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basically the same thing over and over But you

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are gonna have to line this up super well to

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where everybody sounds the same But the snare

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part is very very active underneath this part

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and remains active the entire time that you are

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in this fast section So it's got a lot of flames

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a lot of flames a lot of flames accented flames

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so like I would make Would be very intentional

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about the student that you picked to play this

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part, right? I would make sure it's marked forte

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It does not need to be forte So make sure that

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they can play with good control close to the

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edge of the drum And I would even consider what

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types of sticks they're using so like if they're

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playing with just regular generals You might

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consider a smaller beaded stick to give them

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a little bit more articulation and control at

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a softer dynamic level it's it's a lot. Then

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there's a temple blocks part that comes back

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at the end of each little melody part for the

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lows here and so it's kind of fun and it sounds

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like very you know... Common for this type of

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yes, so it's it's a nice little part. But again

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you want to bring that out each time You have

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the temple blocks and snare can stay softer underneath

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the low brass So the low brass have this twice

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in a row and then at 37 the trumpets come in

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with the melody again And it's very legato. Yes

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So the lows are gonna come down in volume to

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mezzo piano And now the trumpets are playing

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it very smooth while they're doing their little

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bouncy underneath But this is what I was talking

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about before with going up to the high D like

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in 39 It's over and over that in that melody.

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You have to be in tune So just making sure that

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your trumpets are very aware of that. They are

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split trumpet parts So only the first trumpet

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has the melody second trumpet has a harmony part

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but it's just them. So now we still don't have

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any woodwinds. At measure 44, we're going to

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now go to everybody in in the woodwinds. So we

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have Horn and Alto have one, two, three, four,

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one, and then the flutes take over the melody,

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along with clarinet. The entire clarinet section

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comes in on a fifth line F. and the first clarinets

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just continue to climb and they're up on a high

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C and a high D over and over and over in this

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melody. Yeah, so they don't have to sit up there

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if they don't sound good up there. Right, or

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find one child who might sound okay up there

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and that's the one kid who gets to play it. Now

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also I want to point out that the xylophone is

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doubling This part right here on the melody and

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it has them rolling on it So I would be I mean

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make sure it says hard plastic mallets. I would

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not do that with hard plastic mallets. It's gonna

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go along with the like the legato style that

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that all the other melodic instruments are playing

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Yes, it will sound weird just find the find that

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the color of mallet. I don't literally mean the

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color but you know what the the aural color that

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you like texture there you go well whatever tamber

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tamber there it is the T word But find that to

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make sure that that balances with the melody

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appropriately. Yep. So now the only brass instrument

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playing is horn and they're doing what the saxes

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are doing. Now the low reeds have taken over

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the short trombone, euphonium part. And like

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I said, the flute and the clarinet are taking

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over the melody. So the clarinet part, y 'all,

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it goes up to C D C A G F A G So it's just way

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up there. They are literally in the same like

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range as the flute. So you have to make sure

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that that's either in tune or the clarinet just

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doesn't play that and only the flutes do. I remember

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that that was very tough for the band that played

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it. I mean, it makes me cringe looking at the

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score going, oh my gosh, I can only imagine how

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loud that would be. Yes. And we even had our

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first clarinet. We had one first clarinet on

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this part, one. And we had her sit in the second

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row to make sure that her sound wasn't just like

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piercing through the whole band. So you could

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even do something like that. The horn part does

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go up a little higher here, up to like a D. And

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then at 51, trauma. bone does a little arpeggiated

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thing one two three four one two three four one

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it was just an arpeggio at the beginning but

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it's like the melody part but then the horns

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go up to a high F out of kind of nowhere like

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a an announcement one and three four one and

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it's a big yeah it's a big moment too and so

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you want to make sure your horns can sound really

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good there the upper woodwinds are just chilling

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on a long note so this is kind of the part to

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bring out at 53. Now the lows get the melody

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and the tubas continue to do their little part

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from before along with the low reeds. Everybody

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else is on this just little one in and three

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in and one in but the clarinets are doing it

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on a high A and a high C. Yeah, yeah they are.

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So maybe don't have them do that or take it down

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an octave or I don't know what but it's like

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it's flute, oboe, clarinet. All clarinet, all

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trumpet on this exact part. And this is moving.

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This is moving. Right. So like the clarity of

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articulation and that range on that clarinet.

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It's very difficult. So you're wanting to hear

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trombone and euphonium and horn along with saxophone.

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So if you can't hear them easily, then I would

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put... 53 this is one on a part or whatever we

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need to do to make sure we can hear that nice

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tenor line as that's the melody. And mind you,

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the snare drum is still going. It's still going.

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So make sure that you're keeping that sweet little

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baby under control. This part here at 53, it

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can really start to sound noisy and out of control

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if you don't just have the most perfect precision.

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And so that's just so important. At 60 we're

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leading into 61 with a big crescendo mostly from

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the low people. Now at 61 the trumpets take over

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the melody again. along with alto, sax, and horn.

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And the tenor line, the trombone, euphonium part,

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has a little counter melody. Flutes and clarinets

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have gone to playing kind of what the clarinet

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had at the beginning. One and two and three.

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Hold on, hold on. But they have one and two and

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three and four. And now we're not slow, we're

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fast, right? So we really have to make sure that

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this is accurate. the staff in the clarinet uh

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-huh it's going up to a high C both parts friends

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both parts both parts above the staff right so

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that's not easy to do um so this might be another

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part where you find one first clarinet and one

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second clarinet that can play it in tune and

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and call it a day i mean they're written higher

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than well the flute part Sometimes they're well,

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no, they're exactly like the flute. Yeah, the

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exact same octave Yeah, so it's written well

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for flute just up really really high for clarinet

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I would I would hesitate to have many people

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on this part If any you might want to consider

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writing the whole thing down just so it doesn't

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sound screechy From the clarinet and quite honestly,

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I might even consider taking you know, one of

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those clarinet parts and and Make changing it

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to the melody a tenor part. Yeah, or an oboe

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part or whatever because I write I just not needed

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It's not the melody. So it needs to get out of

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the way so we can hear the the horn and trumpet

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part so this whole time in the horn and trumpet

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part to the horns are playing like harmonic thing

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with the trumpet too. So that's kind of the focal

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point. Again, you want to make sure that we are

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featuring the melody, a little bit of the low

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brass and then very little of the flute clarinet

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part and the snare part. We're continuing on

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with this for a long time. We get to 69. It's

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still the exact same thing. You want to make

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sure also that your kids are not all breathing

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in the same spots with the flute and clarinet

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part. And since it is so doodly you can change

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it. and you're breathing on even measures, you're

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breathing on odd measures. And we have these

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weird interjections, and not weird, but these

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interjections of staccato notes in the midst

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of the four slurred notes. It's repeatedly ta

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-ta -ta -ta, but every once in a while you'll

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have this staccato note kind of thrown in there.

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So just being really, really mindful. Yeah, it's

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it's very tricky. So we're continuing on with

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this melody again Now trumpets are up into C's

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and D's often over and over and over on this

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melody And then we're getting into the end at

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72. We have a roll and tondo. We're now slowing

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down We have one two and it's kind of back and

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forth where some of the band has a accent on

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two Yeah, one two three four. Yeah, so we go

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back and forth and the horns have this really

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cool like I don't know, like a hunting call,

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so they have like C, C, E, F, C, E, C. But the

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C, C, F part needs to be kind of brought out.

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It's like the last little thing. And now we're

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getting softer and slower. We're doing the one,

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two, three, four with the accents. I would probably.

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Bop this part the first couple times you play

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it to make sure it's slowing down on the same

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beat together the the Active snare part is now

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gone and it's rolling So you want to keep it

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out of the rest of the percussion are participating

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like bass drum and stuff So everyone needs to

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be unified in right and then we are back to 72

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our halftime at 81 and we're back to the same

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thing from the beginning the clarinet has this

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little exact same one yeah the flute has a melody

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the trumpet now though has like a back -and -forth

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with the flute in the clarinet and it's up high

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CDC over and over so just you know and it's marked

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one player trumpet is gonna be fatigued at this

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point making sure that they're really in tune

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making sure again that the flute player is watching

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we have lost all that pulse in the snare so now

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it's the band they have to really be listening

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to each other the clarinet two part has that

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same moving eighth note structure and then it

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ends with just the flute part ending the last

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little moment at 86 87 the clarinets kind of

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finish it off with three and four and and then

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everybody comes in at 88 like brass haven't been

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playing for several measures everybody comes

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in on the final chord piano with a fermata and

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then percussion ends. with a beat three hit.

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So it ends very delicately and you really have

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to make sure the kids breathe together and play

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together and it doesn't sound bumpy. But this

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is a beautiful piece. Your kids will really enjoy

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it. The melody is very catchy. I think they'll

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buy into it. They'll enjoy playing it but I think

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it is harder than it looks on the page. Absolutely.

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I think you look at it and go oh yeah but there's

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is some meat in this. This is a very good piece

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though to really train up a few like little soloists.

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Oh definitely. Everybody gets an important part

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at some point so it's a good piece if you have

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a pretty mature well -rounded band for sure.

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Yeah I agree. Yeah well we hope you will enjoy

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playing Cheyenne in the future and thank you

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for joining us on this episode of Band BFFs.
