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Welcome to our podcast, Band BFFs.

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The podcast where we make your music selection less complicated.

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On today's episode, we will be discussing La Madre de Los Gatos by Brian Beck.

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Cheers to starting the conversation.

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La Madre is a great little Spanish style piece.

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It's about three minutes in length.

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It does have split clarinet parts, alto, trumpet, and trombone, but they're only split into

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two parts.

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You need a minimum of five percussion on this and you might have to tweak the percussion

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two part if you only have five percussionists.

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Six percussionists is better.

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All of the percussion parts in this are pretty important to add to the style.

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It is in three, four, and in the key of concert E flat, and it's about three minutes in length.

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So that's all the big major stats for La Madre.

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It's also about on the Texas PML, it's a grade three.

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So definitely appropriate for a middle school ensemble or a non-varsity, seven non-varsity

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high school.

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Yes.

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This piece is so fun and the kids love it too.

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At the middle school level, we kind of have to start it a little bit slower and work our

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way up.

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I imagine a high school could probably play it pretty close to tempo pretty quick.

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The piece overall starts off at 132 and then it goes even faster in the middle.

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So it does require some musical skills where the kids can tongue quicker, can count quicker,

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can move their fingers a little bit quicker, especially in the woodwind instruments.

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But anyway, percussion is very important.

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There's big chimes, there's big castanets, maracas, timpani.

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All of those parts are featured and very important.

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The whole piece starts off with a little opening from first trumpet, flute, oboe, first clarinet

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and saxophones together.

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And I like the way that Mr. Beck colors the music with sax and clarinet a lot throughout

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this piece, as well as of course trumpet since it's Spanish style.

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The low brass get to come in with a little response to the opening and then we get back

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to the same people doing the same little...

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Low, lows, lows, lows, lows, lows, lows, lows, lows.

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Then we start our little Spanish groove.

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Low brass love it because it's not hard to count, but it's fun and it kind of sounds

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a little like umpah-y so they like to like dance to it and stuff.

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This ostinato continues a lot throughout this piece.

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And I think we talk about, and when I've played this with my bands, we talk about beat three

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leading to beat, beat three leading to beat one.

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So giving just a little bit more emphasis on beat three, one and three, one and three,

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one and three, just to help kind of give that a little bit more forward momentum.

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The tuba line and the bass clarinet line are also really important and they do not mimic

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the trombone and euphonium line.

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So that is pretty neat, but it's just something different for this mark, or this Spanish style

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song.

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The altos and the flutes and oboe have the melody at eight, at nine.

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And again, the altos get to be pretty important.

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Lots of leading through, like Laura just said, three leads to one, teaching the students

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that there's so many opportunities for phrasing on this piece.

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You know, building it up for two, getting softer for two.

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Like it's a very lyrical piece, even though it's not.

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It's just so beautiful because it's playing lyrically on top of the ostinato underneath

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with the low brass.

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There are a lot of rhythms in here where you have an eighth note and two sixteenths or

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two sixteenths coming in after an eighth rest.

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The sixteenths are often slurred and it's really important for clarity of articulation

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to make sure that those are tongued or that we don't have, you know, sometimes younger

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players might do air starts instead of starting with the tongue and all of that just to match

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clarity needs to be articulated.

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Ta, ta.

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And even before you get there, I think it's a good idea to take all the slurs out so that

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you can line it up later on in the piece.

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Laura and I were talking about, I remember my flutes had trouble with one spot and so

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we just took all the slurs out to make sure that they can keep everything really even.

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So that's another just like practice strategy.

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At 13, the clarinets get to take over the melody along with tenor sax and they get to

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play low down in the shalammo register, which is always really fun.

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I love this part.

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Yeah, it sounds really pretty.

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You know, one of the tricks is making sure that like your low brass don't ever get too

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loud over the melody.

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You still have the ostinato going in horn and sax in this moment, but then like the

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low brass have like a dotted half note getting stronger and then getting softer again.

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And it's really important that they don't go above and beyond what the melody is.

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And so just that balancing, you know, that's always important to think about.

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But this one has a lot of different little layers to think about.

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This snare part is pretty active throughout this, but it's kind of in along with what

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Katie's saying about the low brass part, it's important that your snare player be able to

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play with a lot of control and softer dynamics.

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Absolutely.

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Because it's really easy with the way that the part is written for them to overbalance

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the percussion section and then the ensemble as well.

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So they need to they need to be a pretty strong player that can play controlled softly.

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Yep.

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In response to the clarinet melody here at 13, the flutes and oboes have this cute little

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oney and it's just really cute and they do it again in like four measures, but it's just

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adorably written.

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It's not supposed to be loud.

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It's just like a little fun effect.

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Then the lows do get to get a little bit stronger, kind of take over for a second.

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Then it goes back to the clarinets with their little moment.

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In this little section while the clarinets are doing this cool thing down low, there

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are a couple of places in here where it's often slurred through here and Katie's already

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referenced the fact that it is like this lyrical style over the rhythmic ostinato.

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Younger players can clip the ends of those slurs, especially when we see little two note

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slurs, ti-ya, ti-ya, ti-ya, and it's really important that they follow through on that

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and not clip that.

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Make it as lyrical sounding as possible.

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Yes, absolutely.

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And then we keep going with the clarinet melody with the little flute and oboe back and forth

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into measure 23.

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Then the whole band leads up and we have three accented quarter notes here.

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One, two, three, one, then the trumpet, flute, and oboe come down into the next measure,

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which is 25.

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That part right there sometimes can sound really immature in younger bands or bands

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that haven't spent enough time on it because the trumpets have to come in on an upper E

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and the flutes are on a D and oboe too and that's just not a great tuning note on any

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of those instruments.

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So spending time isolating that little line, maybe find one or two players per section

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that can actually play it in tune with a good sound and accuracy.

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Things worse than a trumpet trying to come in on the right partial and then they don't

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and it takes away.

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Or trying to squeeze that note out and sounding really tense.

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Because there's nothing else going on there.

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So that part has to be set.

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Then at 25 we land and the whole band, except for clarinet and sax, has this little dotted

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half note leading up one, two, three, one, two, three, one, and one, and one.

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It's so fun.

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And they get to just crescendo and make those dotted quarter notes be real accented and

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firm style.

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And then all underneath them you've got clarinet and sax playing all eighth notes essentially

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but they're not all playing all eighth notes all the time.

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It sounds really cool.

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It's written really well.

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It sounds active and fun and the kids like this little moment and they get to do the

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crescendo decrescendo too.

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And then there is a pickup note into measure 31 where the whole band is going to come in

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stronger.

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So we've stopped at piano and then everybody comes in mezzo forte.

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It's meant to be like a big moment.

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We want to hear a difference here for sure.

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Yep.

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And then at 31 the flute and the trumpet and the clarinet and alto one have the melody.

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Then we got the rhythmic ostinato again underneath.

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But everybody's in here.

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This is the first really big full moment.

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And you can decide what works for your band at 34.

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There is a moment for a breath mark in the melody if you want to take it or you can have

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the kids push through and make it sound more like an eight measure phrase which is what

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I personally prefer which is what I did too.

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So when I played this I thought it sounded more elongated and lyrical taking my first

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breath with the melody at 38 instead of 34.

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So the way you even added a crescendo.

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Yes.

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Yep.

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And the way you have to do that is playing out the breath marks for the kids so that

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way they're not like well that's where it feels good to take a breath.

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I mean you're right.

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You're not wrong.

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So you have to think about okay I'm going to have my flute players they're going to

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sneak a breath and measure 35 between beats two and three and then another flute player

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is going to breathe after beat one and 36.

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So going through and either marking that pre marking that for the kids or saying you know

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in sectionals your you for your kids are going to play your be.

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You for kids are going to breathe in 35 you for going to breathe in 36 or whatever it

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might be.

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But planning out those breath marks will help the students so that way they're not just

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relying upon their like natural instinct to take a breath every four measures.

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Then we're going to just continue that melody line going into measure 42.

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We're all leading up again.

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I'm sorry.

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This is the same melody and type of style that the clarinets had earlier.

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So we're copy pasting all those stylistic things we talked about with the clarinets

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not clipping the ends of the slurs making it sound as lyrical as possible.

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It needs to be exactly the same here.

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And then we end the same way with the one two three one then the trumpet and oboe.

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They have that same little line coming down.

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So again find your best ones.

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The whole band is piano at 43.

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We get that same moment again where the saxes and the clarinets get this cool little eighth

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note thing and the band is leading up again and getting softer.

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There's a lot of repetition in this piece.

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So it's one of the things that is nice even though it has some challenging moments to

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teach and they're really good teaching opportunities.

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Once you've taught a chunk that you can you can essentially copy paste to other sections

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of the piece.

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So it does make for I think it makes it a little bit easier to teach because of that.

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Now we have a new section pickups into 49.

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Everybody is forte now and style change and a big style change.

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Now we're all accented.

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There are not a lot of slurs happening.

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Everybody is forte the low brass get the melody for the first time and low reads.

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So they're really excited for that always.

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The trumpets have it first actually so trumpets go three and one two and three and lows come

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in two three one two and three.

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So they're kind of like in a conversation here.

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Then above that flute oboe clarinet have this cute little one and trill one and trill and

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I did not let all of my kids play because it's an it's a G trill above the staff for

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the flutes.

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It's very high and it can be too much.

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You know we're not I don't want to take away from the low brass and the trumpets here.

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So I think what I did is I had one kid play the upper G trill and I had everybody else

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just play a G in the staff and not trill.

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And I only had probably one oboe at the time so that worked out and even the first clarinet

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is on a high A high A to B flat trill and I think the clarinet color I mean I agree

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completely with Katie I like the idea of one or two flute players and taking the other

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flute players down since it's just in the first clarinet part the clarinet part is really

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what I think kind of adds that the color combination.

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So having you know your first clarinets if you just have two first clarinets or three

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first clarinets if you're limiting what you're doing in the flute I think that you'll get

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the I think that you'll get the sound and the color you're looking for without covering

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up what's happening the most important stuff that's happening in the brasses.

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Yeah they just need to be the kings here and then trumpets have the melody with saxes at

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51 just like a moving eighth note line low brass is chilling again then they come back

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up and they get to have another moment at 53 54 same little trills we don't want to

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overbalance them then everybody's accenting and getting softer leading into 57.

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So this part with the eighth notes in my experience with this the second clarinets are also doubling

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what's in the horn trumpet and alto tenor here and matching that articulation especially

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from your reed instruments that was something we had to work on because it is a complete

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style change so a real firm articulation and making sure that you know the first trumpets

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sound as good as the second clarinets down in a lower lower register of their instrument

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just being intentional about matching that articulation.

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Yep I think that's important of course and then at 57 we get a new moment again now we

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don't have the accent and style it's more lyrical again we have dropped out a lot of

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the voices it's kind of like a woodwind choir here yeah but horn and euphonium play so the

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color instruments so the woodwinds clarinet one alto one have the melody tenor sax and

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horn have a tenor like a counter melody line and even most of the percussion has thinned

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out here too so the percussion doesn't play for two measures then they come in at a louder

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dynamic and then get softer then they don't play again and then they come in at a louder

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dynamic and then they get softer so it's kind of like an echo effect and they're leading

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and helping the wind players above them because that's what the winds are doing is they're

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crescendoing up for two and then decrescendoing down for two these lyrical lines are really

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well written and the dynamics are written in for you for what you would want to hear

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and they're really important I mean it's important that the whole ensemble that's playing at

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this point buy into that phrasing lots of accidentals in this section so just making

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sure that your students are you know are comfortable with that exactly yeah or if they don't or

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they're not so comfortable marketing for them yeah there's big like alto sax moment here

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where they go a little bit above the staff you want to bring that color out I think Mr.

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Beck wrote it that way intentionally for them to be a little featured they have a lot of

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the altos have a lot of C sharps sustained C sharps in this section so I would teach

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them covered C sharp and have them use covered C sharp here for tuning to make sure that

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the tuning aligns with what's happening in the first clarinets yep and then we're getting

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again the percussions kind of coming in and out here then percussion goes away for a while

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and so the band has to have really good pulse here they have to be watching you to stay

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totally together we still have the clarinet one and alto melody with horn and tenor having

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a counter melody and then euphonium also helping out with that we finish out this little thought

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at 72 and we kind of have a little bit of it's not a key change necessarily in this

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section but it kind of sounds like it because of all the accidentals written in we have

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a final like arrival point chord at 72 and it can be very out of tune E natural in trombone

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G in trombone C in euphonium E natural in flute C sharp in sax so spending some time

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on that arrival point chord I think is really important and then we're kind of doing the

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same little lyrical again where for two measures we're leading up but now the whole band has

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joined back in like tuba berry sax all the lower voices are back in and then we have

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the same thing where percussions kind of out for two measures other than bells bells are

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playing along with the flute and then we get into measure 79 we have another arrival point

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chord on C sharp and alto and C sharp and trumpet so just the like the tuning in this

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section is pretty it can be pretty scary if you don't spend some time on each chord there

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are some when the melody part kind of arrives and it is at a cadence point on a longer valued

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note there are several instruments middle and lower voices that have a one and and three

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one and even though this is super lyrical those happen on the same note for each of

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those instruments and it's important that they articulate really clearly so that it

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doesn't sound money we made it like staccato accent staccato accent ta ta ta ta yes yeah

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so I think that that is a great point so that way you can actually hear that articulation

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81 we're continuing with the melody in the upper people and then we crescendo up as a

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full group to 85 with that same one and and three and then the everybody that has accented

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quarters here I taught them to play each one one dynamic level louder to lead into 87 one

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two three one then we're back at the beginning one and one one and a two and three two three

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so it's the same as the beginning again same concept styles and then a whole new shift

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everybody on beat one plays forte and everybody in the whole band plays piano on beat two

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and then there's an achela rondo and a crescendo we spent a lot of time you you have 91 to

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95 because it's four measures where the whole band is getting faster and getting louder

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and you have to practice getting louder at the same rate getting faster at the same rate

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so and it's the same note it's not they're not changing notes it's the same note over

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and over so you just have to teach the kids how to do it how to listen how to match their

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neighbors side to side don't get louder than your friend don't go faster than the conductor

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and you go into one here too so you have to conduct in three then eventually you're in

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your ride you're right now when we taught this like we isolated those two concepts because

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it's the same note we isolated the achela rondo and we isolated the dynamics so and to

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teach it that way so like if you just like don't don't change the tempo and let them

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work on playing every note and just getting slightly louder together at the same rate

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while articulating the same the the same way as well what younger kids are going to want

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to do the louder they play the longer they're going to play right so keeping the style the

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same as they get louder then we isolated the achela rondo let's just do that we took it

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away from the instrument and had them clap so that they were really focusing on just

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watching and and and doing that achela rondo together then putting it on the instrument

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I would say you know if it if it was any other piece you could do that on a concert F but

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it's the same note all the way through so I mean you don't need to do that once they

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are really secure with the clapping then you can mix those two things together put it together

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add the dynamics add the achela rondo but these four measures I have heard these four

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measures can seriously make or break some ensembles absolutely so it is so important

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don't put it off it's so important to work these four measures and make it a really solid

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transition otherwise when you land at 95 it can it can be a disaster and take four five

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six eight measures before the ensemble settles in yep so at 95 it's written prestissimo

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con fuego so it's in one at a hundred so one two three one two three one two three one

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two three it's and it's actually faster than that it goes really fast and my flute it's

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flutes only they struggled so much with clipping the third note like Laura's already mentioned

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a lot and also making the first note too short because it's written tongue tongue slur slur

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ta ta ta ta ta and it goes from a C to a D C C D E C E flat C C D E flat C C D E flat

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and so I know the like just the pinky and every it just like it's kind of a thing you

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got to work on like right away like make sure that your flutes feel really comfortable with

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this part it is fun they love it it's just something that they have to be really even

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ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta they have to be really really even clarinet and

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oboe come in along with bass clarinet as like a little response after four measures with

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tambourine as well it's a cute little color choice then they keep going with their melody

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with the clarinets and the altos coming in underneath them then at 109 all the woodwinds

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come in 1313131 they're gonna clip that quarter note oh my gosh it drives me nuts 13131 it

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has got and it's all a phrase so they come in strong just like the percussion did before

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where they came in at mezzo piano and they got to piano they come in at mezzo forte and

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then get down to piano so teaching them that that is a that is a whole phrase and I taught

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that they were not going to breathe between 112 and 113 because now we have the same thing

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the opposite direction now they're going from piano to forte so it's a four measure decrescendo

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followed by a four measure crescendo and I taught that all as one thought which in one

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that's not right for them to do right so it what we did to help keep them from clipping

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that quarter note at the end of this section is I had them play a just a dotted half note

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so they played their first note as a dotted half note and didn't change da da da da da

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and we talked about using dotted half note air even though our fingers are going to be

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changing once we were sure that they could play the dotted half notes all the way through

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and it felt you know connected and flowy we went back and added the extra quarter note

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in there and kept the air the same the goal is that it sounds the same so that's a that's

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a little a trick that you can use to practice this section at 117 we have a final arrival

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point and and also I forgot to mention on those four measures where we're going from

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piano to forte the brass come back in there yes so the whole band sounds more full and

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strong and at 117 the whole all the upper woodwinds have the one two and three one two

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and three that the flutes had before and xylo adds in and that's a really cool color choice

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it is so work with your your percussionist to try to find the best mallet choice to make

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it sound like really really nice it should be a little bit of a harder mallet in my opinion

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yes I think it makes it sound more more awesome above the band and then we want to make sure

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all the woodwind players like I told them listen to the xylophone player yeah that's

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how your fingers need to be as as accurate as the xylophone yep then the brass have the

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little one two three one that the clarinets and saxes had before we're continuing this

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thought for quite a while then we go back into the little lyrical thing at 131 where

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we start strong get softer for four then get louder for four but now it's the full band

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instead of just the woodwinds and making sure that everybody again gets the same dynamic

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level down and the same back up you don't have like one trombone trying to go for it

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and get louder than everybody else and the trombone speaking of is up above the staff

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here so tuning is also pretty important lots of accidentals in this moment just like we

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had before and then at 139 we have a cute little chromatic e thing we are forte and

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then all the little upper woodwinds are doing a chromatic scale down then at four measures

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later the brass get to have a little chromatic e thing going back up as they get louder the

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woodwinds are slurring down the brass are articulating up so just making sure that matches

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and then the next four measures the woodwinds again play this time it's not chromatic but

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they play staccato so it's like slurred to regular firm tongued to staccato and then

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the whole band has one and two one and one or sorry I was thinking one and because of

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being in one but you guys get it yeah it's a hemiola the whole band minus upper woodwinds

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accented strong you're gonna lead up to 155 then it's a big percussion moment chimes get

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the melody timpani has a whole really cool part I told my kid like go crazy town like

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it is so neat timpani and chimes I think are most important right here and then the full

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ensemble is playing one at just a quarter note on beat one and that the tendency is

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to be way too short on that oh yeah making sure that it's a full body and resonant one

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rest one rest and one then they have to come in like right before and then they come in

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strong and the woodwinds lead us out with a chromatic line up to the last note and then

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the last note needs to also be long and full value the pick up note that eighth note pick

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up now I did it is it is fast and it has to be articulate ta ta ta ta all right that is

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something that we had to work on to make sure that it we aligned it correctly and that it

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was clear in the articulation and then last note just like we talked about the notes at

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one fifty five and one fifty seven make sure that that's full body resonant don't clip

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that note too short this piece is so much fun kids love it absolutely love it it's it's

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not too hard as an individual part like they're not going to look at it and be like I can't

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play this but it comes together well as long as all the kids know their individual parts

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and can watch really well because there's just there's a lot of activity there yes and

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the tempo is fine I think that's one of the things that they look at it and might see

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a lot of white notes on the page but the tempo really is what you know I think it makes the

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technique a little bit more challenging and a little bit more fun well we hope you will

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program la madre de los gatos sometime in the future and thank you for joining us on

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this episode of band BFFs.

