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And this one is for the culture.

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This is the G podcast where we focus on family, friends, finances,

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freedom and our future and everything else.

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This is the podcast.

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And today we got Farmer J.

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We get right to it, y'all.

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It doesn't matter how you feel.

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Take it no talk.

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It doesn't matter how you feel.

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Yes, indeed, y'all.

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We got Farmer J.

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in the building.

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And this is the G podcast where we focus on family, friends,

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finances, freedom and our future.

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Farmer J.

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Thank you so much for joining.

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Oh, man.

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I appreciate you having me.

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All right.

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For those of you who haven't seen before, we really just like to get right to it.

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Farmer J.

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I know we randomly cross paths through a mutual person.

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Shout out to Luke Mon if you're out there watching.

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But I know you're in South Carolina, but I want to start with like the foundation.

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Where were you actually born?

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I'm a Brooklyn baby.

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Brooklyn baby.

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Okay.

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What born and raised in Brooklyn or what was that like growing up?

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Oh, it was everything, man.

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I grew up in Brooklyn all the way until I graduated high school.

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I got all my hustle, everything about Brooklyn, stolen me.

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I just kind of brought it down there.

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Brooklyn.

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I'm a hip hop guy growing up listening to artists like Biggie J.

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Like what neighborhood in Brooklyn would you say you would you call home?

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Canarsie.

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I grew up right by Tilden High School, over there by Remsen Ave.

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And when did you-

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He's 86.

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And you said you stayed up there from up until high school.

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Yep.

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Graduated in 2002.

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What were you doing in those days?

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Cause I don't think as much farmland up there in Brooklyn.

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What were you doing for fun in New York City around that time period?

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We were like rollerblading kings.

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We rollerbladed burros.

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So basketball, rollerblading.

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I was like everything.

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Basketball and rollerblading, like at the same time or like definitely?

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We do it at the same time, but we just play ball, go park hopping and rollerblade.

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Get that cardio in.

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That's how we got around quicker.

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So everybody had BMX bikes.

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We were like only two black people on rollerblades.

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When you were growing up in Brooklyn, did you have a desire say to leave and come down

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south or what did you imagine yourself doing as a young man growing up in Brooklyn when

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you were in high school?

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What did you think you'd be doing at this point?

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I actually did see myself in South Carolina because I came here every summer.

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So every summer all my family's down here.

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We always come down a whole summer, every chance we get.

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And at the high school, it was kind of a mutual choice.

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I'm out.

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Let's get out of Brooklyn for a little bit.

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Let's get close to the family.

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His family's everything and I visit.

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So it's good.

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Of course.

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So that's interesting.

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You visited.

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So what were those visits like growing up from Brooklyn to South Carolina?

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It was like home.

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You get off an Amtrak, you get picked up by somebody and the first smell was somebody

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burning something in the yard.

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I don't get that in Brooklyn.

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So that was kind of like that.

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Hey, I'm back.

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And got to see a lot of friends and family.

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So I love it.

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A lot of folks that grow up in that city environment who then say visit more rural, quote, unquote,

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country places, they don't necessarily like the slower environment.

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What was it about that environment that didn't necessarily or what was it about that you

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embraced or that you actually enjoyed as a change of pace?

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I like the quiet.

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I can go to Brooklyn tomorrow and blend right in.

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But I kind of like my space.

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I'm great around people, but after a while it's like I got to get to me.

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So I mean, I'm in a cut right now.

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I saw myself coming down there.

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It was one of those things where I just wanted to change the pace.

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And I thought that I can bring some Brooklyn down south and kind of do my thing and kind

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of shine a little bit.

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How old?

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So how old were you when you came to South Carolina?

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And what city did you move to?

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First, I moved to West Ashley, Charleston.

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That's in Charleston or outside of Charleston?

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It's in Charleston.

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18 Charleston.

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So, OK, I guess my question is, why did you come down here at 18 after high school?

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So I went I went to college, my bad.

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I went to Charleston Southern for a couple of years.

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And that was kind of main priority.

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I went to Charleston Southern and then I was like, look, I got to get a job.

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So I got a job at UPS, stayed there for about five years, did college for about two years.

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And I didn't it was I couldn't click with any of it.

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It was you know, I was just there.

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So I went to Charleston Southern.

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I didn't mingle.

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I was kind of a loner.

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I was a commuter.

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I didn't stay on campus.

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I worked two jobs.

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I did a paper out at UPS and then I was just like, I can't do this.

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I wouldn't go into class.

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I just go there for the test.

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And my professor, my business law teacher told me he was like, what are you here for?

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Like, what are you trying to get?

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Am I supposed to go to college?

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He's like, look, you need to just go out and do it.

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So you don't need to be here.

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You obviously can think of a plan and make it come forth.

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So he's like, just go out there and start experiencing life.

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So I got confidence that you'll be just fine.

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So I don't think I went to class a day after that.

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Kind of hit out a little bit.

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It was like, I didn't get no grades back, nothing like that.

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And I was like, I can't do it.

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Just work and work.

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What did you like, like what did, did you end up picking a major while you were there?

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Or what, what, what did you think you wanted to study when you originally went to school?

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It was business administration.

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I basically tried to just get whatever knowledge I can get that they could give me from business.

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Cause I grew up in a business field.

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My father was an entrepreneur.

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My father is an entrepreneur and ever since I was little, he fed it to me and get whatever you want.

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You just got to go work for it.

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So anytime I asked for anything, I want this.

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You can have it.

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I want this.

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You can have it.

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You got to go get the rent.

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I went over here.

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I went over there.

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You come back with the check is yours.

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And I was one of those that always came back with the check and then some.

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So I figured, let me find a way to push it out there and further myself knowledge-wise.

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And I didn't know what I wanted to do.

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I tried everything.

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And then I tried every business venture and it was just like, I don't know.

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It's good.

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It makes money, but I need something that I can keep doing, keep doing, keep doing.

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But you grew up in a, you grew up in a house watching an entrepreneur every single day.

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What were those household dynamics?

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Was it just you and your pops?

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Did you have both parents and siblings?

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Who all was in the household growing up?

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I had two active parents, not in the same household.

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So it was just me for the first 12 years and then my little sister came and I had a

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four siblings on my father's side.

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So I had a brother, I have a brother right here over me, some older sisters, some

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distance between that.

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So I bounced from Canarsie to Coney Island and back and forth and back and forth.

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And I watched, I got to see the beginning of things.

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I got to see somebody kind of vision thing.

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So one of my earliest memories was going into a city block that my pops bought and it

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was like Randall and he would take us upstairs to the place and this is going to be this

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and that's going to be there.

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And we had no floors.

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It was just like Joyce, little kids walking on Joyce with like a two story drop.

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Got kind of to be brave and just get out there and do things.

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And I got to watch it manifest and then he would manifest it and he was like, look, I

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was thinking further ahead, I want to go up with this.

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And with the foundation that this block has, it's not going through.

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So he tore the whole block down.

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Everybody thought he was stupid.

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You see buildings and then you go to his area of the block and it was just vacant

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straight through the next block.

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And he went and did steel so that he can go up as many stories as he wanted for the

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future. So I see that I got to see a lot of visionary stuff and how to make it

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formidable and then how to execute it and then how to just stick with it and keep

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pursuing it. So that's what I'm about.

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Well, that's that's interesting here.

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So you you already not say you already, but growing up seeing that, I think, does

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kind of shape the mind in terms of what you expect and how you approach things

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because you you often do things the way you see your parents do it.

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Right. Like that's how you your first emulations typically are the people closest

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around you. And I guess coming to South Carolina from New York.

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Right. I know you said you visited family, but did you just did you have anything

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else say in terms of options at the time when you were thinking about next steps

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after high school? Could it have been anywhere else?

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Was there anything other than Charleston South?

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I could have stayed in Brooklyn.

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I think things would have moved a lot quicker, but I don't know if I would be the

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same person I am today.

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I mean, back then, you know, I was looking for that money bag, whatever I can get.

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And as I've gotten older, I just kind of wanted somewhere to set some roots.

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And I wanted I like my lonesome.

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You know, I like I like to be self-preserved.

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I like to do my own thing.

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I don't like to depend on anybody.

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If I want to stay home for a month, I want to be able to stay home for a month and

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not go anywhere. So that's kind of what I wanted.

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I couldn't get that in Brooklyn.

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It was it was a little too congested.

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I mean, I couldn't find me amongst all those people.

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So I was somewhere a little slow pace.

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When you got to South Carolina and you're trying to find your footing, at what point

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did you like did you have a at what point did you start growing things in South

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Carolina or did you start growing stuff in Brooklyn?

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Like at what point did you actually start growing stuff?

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I didn't grow anything in Brooklyn.

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Nothing. I didn't think about anything but basketball or rollerblading.

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Chillin with people, man.

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We had a big, big group of people that we chilled with.

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And I was just, you know, the thing.

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See who's going outside today.

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What can you do?

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But stars growing.

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I didn't start growing till I met my wife and grow anything to them anymore.

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I don't I don't recall having plants before that.

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The reason I actually started growing was I was I was in the dog game at the time I

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was raising American bullies.

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Everybody knew me as DBK Bully Camp.

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So they knew me for so I had tried to the dogs in South Carolina.

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I was starting to lean towards the farm side of things.

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Then it wasn't manifest and quite vivid, but it was more like just I like I like full

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circle. So what I did was I wanted to raise my dogs.

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I wanted to feed them a raw diet.

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I didn't want to buy processed foods.

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So seeing things starting to happen as far as making my own things.

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And I was like, well, you know what?

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Let's get some livestock and we can we can do it from there.

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So, you know, I got some chickens and start buying feed.

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And I'm like, it's too expensive.

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Like, I'm buying feed.

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I'm like, I'm always crunching numbers.

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I'm like, I'm like, I'm spending it on this.

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Then I'm not making money.

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I need to cut out the expense every chance I can.

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I like the only way to cut the expense out is to start growing the vegetables.

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And then it was like a full circle.

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I started growing something called fodder, which is like it takes wheat bran and you

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kind of graze it from seeds and soak it in it turns until grass about yay high root

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system. And it's a full 30 percent protein.

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Good diet for the animals.

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And it's it fed everything.

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Oh, we have the cows down the chickens.

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I like to start feeding the animals with this and start feeding ourselves with it as

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well. Just kept trying anything.

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Fodder fodder is the same thing.

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If you ever heard of wheatgrass fodder, wheatgrass is the same thing.

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It's just fodders for what they call the animals in terms of growing.

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That was are you saying that was probably the first real thing you grew intentionally.

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And it was because of the fact that you you had a kennel and you were grooming bullies

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and you were trying to figure out the most cost efficient way to do that, which was to

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grow and produce your food for them.

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Yep. Yep. As well as home.

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I used to go collard greens and cabbage and all other stuff.

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Just trying it out.

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I would give it away to my family.

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I'd make a couple of sales here.

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I had a room at one time where I grew 400 heads of lettuce a week.

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Supplying them to restaurants.

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I was going Michael Green's and supplying them to restaurants.

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400 heads of lettuce a week.

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Lettuce grow that fast.

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I basically would staggered.

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So I had had eight shells, vertical shells, five tiers each.

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And the very first shelf would basically start my seeds.

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And then as they get a little bigger, then I would transplant them and move along the line.

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And it would take every every week I would be processing a full batch of full head of lettuce

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and then move everything down.

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Just kind of like an assembly line.

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I kind of learned that from UPS.

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So, OK, yeah, let me take a step back.

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So you this didn't really unlock until around the time you met your wife.

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How did you meet your wife, by the way?

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So we kind of grew up and we grew up the same.

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My families knew each other.

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Families kind of went to school together.

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One of the roads that we live on back in the road and on Johns Island, a lot of our family

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grew up back there.

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So we all went to church together.

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My aunt was a Sunday school teacher in the ministry.

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My whole family's Christians.

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And it's kind of like where we met.

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We all grew up.

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Hung out during the summertime.

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Ran into her again years later.

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So you knew your wife before there was ever a relationship between y'all?

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Like you always knew of this person?

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I would say that we knew each other anywhere between 11 and 12.

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Maybe between 11 and 15 years or so before we actually started trying to talk romantically.

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What was the thing that made that change?

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Knowing somebody that long and now all of a sudden, I think I'm more interested in that.

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So it's a full package.

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Somebody that you can relate with.

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She kind of had a drive at the time I met her.

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She's always on the move, always trying to do something and just bumping into each other.

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Like different area, different zip codes.

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But I have to look for somebody that kind of represents you as well because image is

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everything as well.

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So I wanted somebody comparable.

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Somebody that carried themselves.

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Somebody that I thought that would potentially take care of my kids in the future the right

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way without worry while I kind of handle business as well.

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So somebody I can coincide with.

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So trying to start it up from there.

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And it was it like an event or like a grocery store or like a moment?

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Grocery store.

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Grocery store.

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And I was talking to somebody else at the moment.

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So it always happens like that.

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It's always it seemingly always happens like that.

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But you all met at a grocery store and then we got connected from there.

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It was I was I was hustling.

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I was selling sneakers.

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I was selling socks.

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I was selling pocketbooks.

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I was whatever I could sell.

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I was out there hustling.

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So I was hustling.

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And initially it was I got these bags.

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If I see a lady and I know she likes nice bags and it's automatically I got a nice bag.

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You check me out.

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All at me.

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I think I ran into her at a bank in Orangeburg.

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I was living in Orangeburg at the time.

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South Carolina and she was going to state at the time.

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South Carolina State I believe.

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Bumped her at the bank trying to make a deposit.

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Actually I was trying to open my bank account because they closed my account.

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So they closed my account way back when and they told me that I was banned indefinitely

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because of not well practices of taking care of my account and trying to find a nice way

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to put it.

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And they were telling me like look bro the only way that you'll ever have an account

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with Bank of America again is if you can talk a bank branch manager into overriding you.

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So I was going to bank the bank seeing who I could talk to.

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I found the bank in Orangeburg and he opened the account for me.

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I met her there.

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Told her get these bags.

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Smile at me.

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Cute kind of look good though but I'll get these bags.

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Trying to not come off bad because I'm talking to somebody but ran into her again at the

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grocery store and ran into each other at an event and she's kind of like took it from

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there.

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Wow.

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Okay.

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So it's a coincidence of then starting to grow things like did she have any direct impact

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on that or is it just more so coincidence of timing?

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I would say maybe just supportive and my crazy scheme of things that I want to do and then

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listen to me break it down a hundred thousand percent and expanding it as big as I can and

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it's like go for it.

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Let's get it.

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We can grow some vegetables for the house too.

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Save some money.

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Let's go.

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Let's get it.

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You hadn't studied this in high school.

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You hadn't studied this in college.

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You hadn't studied this professionally.

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This is just an idea and you're like I want to do this and this is what I'm about to do.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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Definitely what it was.

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So how did you learn how to grow things?

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Because growing stuff is not as simple as putting seeds in the ground.

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It's definitely a process, art and a technique to doing stuff the right way.

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Before you actually took that initiative to grow that feed for the animals, where did

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you start to kind of figure out what supplies you needed, how you could start and that sort

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of thing?

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Bro, I do everything right here bro.

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I'll be sitting there staring off in the space and I'm coming up with a formidable plan and

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then I'll execute it and I'm one person that I like to go straight to it.

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So my best method of learning is constantly making mistakes.

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Seeing what works and seeing what doesn't work.

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I will not repeat the same mistake unless I'm not focused.

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So once I figure out what doesn't work, I can eliminate that completely and I just keep

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doing it until it works.

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And then once it works, I don't change it.

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I continue to do it exactly the way I did it because it works.

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Alright, so but most people still will start with studying what already works so that they

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don't start from like a place of where they're just trying things that just won't make any

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sense because there are proven models of success if you will.

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Did you have any sort of resources or models that you tried to emulate at the early stages?

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I would say YouTube University.

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That's what I like to call it.

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YouTube was my best friend.

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Anything he wanted to do or learn how to do, somebody was there explaining it.

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And I would watch it until I find somebody who thought similar to me.

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I didn't like a lot of lally-yagging.

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I didn't like a lot of slow talking and long introductions.

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Show me what I need so I can go on.

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If I got to fast forward a little bit too much, it's exit.

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Once I found that person that would give me what I needed, I watch it once.

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I watch it twice.

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I watch until I remembered it and then I would just go execute.

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YouTube University is not to be underrated.

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A lot of information out there for people who are trying to figure out how to get stuff

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off the ground.

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This early, these early stages of growing, this was just for your own benefit.

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Not necessarily to scale into a business.

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But I heard you say you were supplying local restaurants.

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And so how did that become a real thing?

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How did you go from just growing this fodder to actually, I can grow more and support the

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local community as well?

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It takes one sale from me.

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I make $10 on my own.

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I'm about to make a mil.

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And I just kind of run with it.

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And I'm comfortable walking into places and grabbing you and making you buy it.

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My boys tell me I can sell a shoe that I'm not sure.

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I've got a knack for finding a person that will buy what I want.

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I can communicate with you for 15 minutes and I pay attention to things.

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People give hints and clues all the time.

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You gave me an example of what your preference cannabis was when we first chatted.

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And it was like, thing, message.

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You got them paying attention and I looked out and I show up, show out.

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Or I miss it and you don't know what's going on.

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I went out a lot.

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I just, they call me the person.

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They call me ears.

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I used to do security.

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They call me ears.

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I used to go out and hear things and from there I knew which way I wanted to go with

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them.

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So I just went out.

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I went around people and it took a word that somebody said and I fed off of it.

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And then I pitched, freestyle pitched.

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By the time it was all said and done, it was like, hey, you need to come out.

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My first restaurant with the Michael Green's, somebody gave me a tip, I believe.

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Nope.

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I went online to Google and I went up to every four star and five star restaurant that will

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basically use it.

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And I spotted Mount Pleasant, Grace and Grit was one of them.

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So I went there and told them, you know, I wanted to sell some ice creams and I brought

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samples with me.

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And I wanted them to taste it right then and there in front of me and they tasted it and

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they were like, Oh my God, this is, you know, fresh.

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It's a flavorful.

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And I was like, I can push this out a week.

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And I said, the difference between me is I'm, I build to order so I don't grow it and store

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it in the refrigerator.

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The day you get it, I harvested it.

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So it was fresh.

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And I was always wanted to stick with organic and fresh side of things.

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That word organic, what makes something organic in the farming world?

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Something that starts from the earth, something that's natural, something that will biodegrade

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that to where back into earth again.

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For example, there might be greens that will degrade, but they're not organic.

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Well, it wasn't altered.

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It wasn't altered.

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And my business isn't labeled as organic, but we practice organic practices.

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So it's organic to me.

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If it hasn't been altered, if everything that was used to take care of that plant was natural,

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you didn't add any chemical or outbound chemicals to pesticides or anything like that.

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You didn't use salt based nutrients to feed it.

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You'd everything that came from something alive to actually take care of the plant.

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That's kind of what we practice.

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Word, but why is it that you can do everything to make it organic, but not get labeled as

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organic?

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Why, why is that the case?

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So some things aren't natural.

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And I can't give you particulars, but I believe peat moss isn't a naturally organic product,

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but it's a, it's a clean product.

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It doesn't contain any chemicals.

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It's just isn't something that came from earth that was alive.

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And it's good for as a compound to hold the roots really well.

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It drains very well and it's a little bit cheaper and it holds nutrients very well.

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But it's not natural.

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It's not organic.

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If any of your soil uses peat moss in it, you cannot be considered an organic farm,

482
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but it's natural, but it's clean.

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There's no chemicals in it.

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There's nothing foreign to make it do anything.

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It holds no nutrients.

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Everything that gets added to it is added for me.

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It's just a substrate to actually hold my roots nice and firm.

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So it's a technicality in terms of the, what would you call that?

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Like in terms of the actual infrastructure of the farm, in terms of the infrastructure-

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How they label it basically.

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Basically how they categorize it, because I guess they categorize organic as living.

492
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So peat moss was never living, so you can't consider it organic if it wasn't living.

493
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,600
So that's what I would say.

494
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:49,600
Okay.

495
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:50,600
Okay.

496
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:51,600
This is interesting to me.

497
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,800
So how much space realistically did you start out with when you're in those early stages

498
00:21:55,800 --> 00:22:00,760
when you were growing the fodder and started growing say those vegetables for the house?

499
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:07,400
I started with like 50 five gallon buckets and I went on offer up or Craigslist or something

500
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:08,960
and was looking for buckets for cheap.

501
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:13,480
I didn't want to spend $5 a bucket at Lowe's and I found somebody 20 minutes away selling

502
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,200
them for a dollar a bucket.

503
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,200
And I went and bought 50 buckets, drilled a bunch of holes in the bottom of them.

504
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,200
Didn't know what I was doing.

505
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:27,680
I got out there and buying tons of bags of soil to fill them up with and put them in.

506
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,320
I bought plants the first go around.

507
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,680
So I bought plants from maybe Lowe's or something like that, transplants.

508
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,000
And then I put them in the ground and I let them do their thing.

509
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,800
And it came out pretty good.

510
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,240
55 gallon buckets.

511
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:40,240
Like those paint buckets.

512
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,240
Yep.

513
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,440
And all of them stacked in three rows.

514
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,240
So that's about what?

515
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,760
15, 16, 17 in each row.

516
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,520
And okay, that's not a lot of space.

517
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,960
And other than those buckets and soil, is it just that and the seeds?

518
00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,000
Is that all you need to get it started or is there anything else?

519
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,880
I would definitely say a good understanding.

520
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,400
So when I approach something, I failed a lot.

521
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:06,400
So let's get that out of the way.

522
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,360
I failed a lot and I just keep failing.

523
00:23:08,360 --> 00:23:10,560
And then from days just like, you know, I'm tired of failing.

524
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:11,560
Let's do something different.

525
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,480
Then I will go back and research a little bit and adjust it a little bit.

526
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,680
And I think I quickly knew that I didn't want to deal with buckets.

527
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,440
It was just too much work.

528
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,780
And it wasn't, it cost too much money to sit here and keep buying all this dirt.

529
00:23:24,780 --> 00:23:26,520
What makes the buckets too much work?

530
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,080
It seems like it'd be easier to deal with the bucket than the actual land.

531
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:35,200
It is easier, but filling those buckets and drilling all them holes and having to move

532
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,880
it and then having to maintain the area around it because grass grew up in between them.

533
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:47,080
So ever so often I'd have to move all 50, put all 50 back and quickly after starting

534
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:51,200
something, I'm always like, it's time to scale up or what's a better way of doing it.

535
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,600
So even if I've been doing something and it works, I will still question myself and see

536
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,320
if I can find a better way of doing it.

537
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,040
So the next course was raised beds.

538
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:00,720
And that's kind of the next thing we did.

539
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,720
We built, we bought two by sixes and a buddy from church, Anthony came and helped me out

540
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,440
and we built garden beds.

541
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:11,360
Garden beds on the ground or, or this is where you start talking about stacking joints.

542
00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:15,680
So the garden beds are basically, you just build a frame, a four wall frame.

543
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,720
I think they were maybe three feet by eight feet, something like that.

544
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,400
Four foot by eight foot, wherever we could use a full board and then a half a board for

545
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,400
the shorter ends.

546
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,320
And there was no bottom in it.

547
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,320
So it was natural earth right below it.

548
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:32,480
I went out there with a shovel and I took the top layer of earth up around bare handed

549
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,920
blistered hands and I got tiresome too.

550
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,240
So I had to keep adjusting because the workload farming is hard, bro.

551
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,240
It's a lot of work.

552
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,240
It's a lot of physical work.

553
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,280
It's a lot of heat, especially in South Carolina, boy.

554
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,200
I was in my twenties, so trying to stay fit.

555
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,200
I'm a he-man.

556
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,280
I can take on anything in the latter twenties and early thirties.

557
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,040
I'm getting too old for this.

558
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:57,560
It was Danny Glover up in here and I was like, I gotta find a better way than the bugs.

559
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,360
Anybody that grew up with me, I hate bugs, bro.

560
00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:06,960
They got comedy stories of me growing up, making a scene because I got bit by a mosquito.

561
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,420
So it was like, I need something comfortable and it didn't have to be that hard to do it.

562
00:25:11,420 --> 00:25:15,280
So I started looking at hydroponic growing and that's when I started doing the lettuce

563
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:16,280
hydroponically.

564
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,160
I did a cracking method, which was the least amount of work.

565
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,160
I don't like to overwork.

566
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:25,440
It was the least amount of work and I basically just add nutrients to it, to water and you

567
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:26,440
have your roots sit in it.

568
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,960
And every few days you pour it out, clean it, buff it out and replace it with fresh nutrients

569
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:31,960
and it worked.

570
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,080
It grew pretty well, but I got tired of lettuce too.

571
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,360
I got tired of dealing with chefs.

572
00:25:36,360 --> 00:25:38,080
I got tired of dealing with restaurants.

573
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,240
I had to drive, it was driving like 250 miles on a Friday.

574
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:43,240
Friday was delivery day.

575
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:48,720
It was up five o'clock in the morning, harvesting the packaging, fresh load up and I'm out and

576
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:49,720
I'm going all day.

577
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:54,400
What was it about the chefs that you didn't really appreciate?

578
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,560
They didn't appreciate the farmer in my opinion.

579
00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,600
I took all this time to grow this product for you and you took the product and maybe

580
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,320
I didn't understand the nature of business back then, but if I worked hard and I'm small

581
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,840
business, I want to get paid today.

582
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,320
I worked hard all week to get paid today.

583
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,680
So telling me I'll get back with you with the payment.

584
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:17,480
And then I was also delivering to Kiwa Island and they wanted me to buy a pass, supply their

585
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:18,480
restaurants on their site.

586
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,920
And I'm like, should provide me with a pass.

587
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:21,920
I'm doing you a service.

588
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,240
If you want a service done to your location, give me a pass.

589
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:31,200
I'm not spending $250 a year on a pass just to get in when somebody paying me a hundred

590
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,200
dollars for a week.

591
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,680
Like, sorry, I was tight wanting back there.

592
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,680
So how long did you do that for roughly?

593
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,640
The growing for restaurants?

594
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:43,640
1.5 years.

595
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,160
That's kind of when I started the farm LLC.

596
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,160
I was 2017.

597
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,040
I started the farm LLC 2017.

598
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:56,640
I was probably four years after I felt comfortable growing things.

599
00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:01,480
My grandmother wasn't a farmer, but she had a green thumb on both sides, my father's side

600
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:02,480
and my mother's side.

601
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,240
My father didn't have a green thumb.

602
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,800
My mom doesn't really have a green thumb.

603
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:10,240
They say it's a generation and kind of just came naturally to me.

604
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,680
I would say I'm real close with nature.

605
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:17,160
I love South Carolina and I love down south when I came because of the animals and the

606
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,400
outside feeling of it.

607
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,480
So New York was outside, but it was a concrete jungle, it was rough.

608
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,960
And I was more into nature.

609
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,320
When I come down here, they used to tease me.

610
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:27,960
They used to call me Dr. Dolittle.

611
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,760
I would get here and all the animals would be following me and I'd be out there talking

612
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,480
to animals and talking with plants.

613
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:34,480
I couldn't have pets.

614
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:39,240
They wouldn't let me have a dog in the apartment like that or much trees.

615
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,480
So I enjoyed it when I came down here and I wanted more.

616
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,600
I spend most of my time outside now.

617
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:45,600
Word.

618
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:52,880
It's interesting that you went all in to this idea of growing things when you really didn't

619
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,360
have much background and experience with it growing up.

620
00:27:57,360 --> 00:28:03,920
What was it about the aspect of farming or growing that really helped you lean into it

621
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,000
once you started getting into it?

622
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,680
I know you say you love nature, but what is it about the farming?

623
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:09,680
I catch.

624
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:10,680
It gives you peace.

625
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,280
It says I'm always moving a thousand miles an hour.

626
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,040
I have to keep catching myself to slow down.

627
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,080
So plants help me slow down.

628
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:23,960
It helps me lock out everything that my mind is thinking of and I'm not focused right on

629
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:24,960
what I'm doing with the plant.

630
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,560
It gives me a little quiet time because I'm always moving.

631
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,240
I want to use every minute of every day and I'm calculating.

632
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,360
I got six minutes left and then I got to dip.

633
00:28:32,360 --> 00:28:33,360
So get out my way.

634
00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:37,440
The plants is usually that time where time doesn't really matter to me.

635
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,280
So I'm cooling it, chilling them, relaxed.

636
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:41,600
It's hard for me to do so.

637
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:47,760
So it's almost meditative in terms of just the process itself, what it takes day in,

638
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:48,760
day out.

639
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,400
It helps keep you grounded and centered.

640
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:51,720
I can understand that.

641
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:52,720
I can understand that.

642
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:59,480
And is there any particular aspect of farming that you get more fulfillment from, whether

643
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:06,240
it be the beginning, the harvesting, the end, seeing it all develop?

644
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,240
What really does it for you?

645
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,480
Every part has its blessing.

646
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,960
And I spent a long time growing stuff and missing the harvest.

647
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:18,800
So I guess the growing, I guess seeing something that wasn't there turned into something that's

648
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,280
there, turned into something that got bigger.

649
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:22,800
It kind of helped me stay focused.

650
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:27,560
It's the consistency, it's the cycle, the way process, it's the way things happen.

651
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:32,400
So it makes me understand that things take time and it helped me plan ahead.

652
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,640
Because it wasn't, no, I'm gonna grow this week and I'm gonna have it next week.

653
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:40,000
You had to plan months ahead to have something in benefit for something months later and

654
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,360
stick with it without getting any benefits out of it until it was finished.

655
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,680
So it kind of taught me patience, taught me that things take time.

656
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,640
It helped me plan ahead, keep me grounded.

657
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,920
I think, oh, this is kind of going off in a different, but you saying that even, that's

658
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:59,520
something I think our community doesn't have a lot of when it comes to just being grounded

659
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:05,680
and at peace and being able to slow down and take things slow process what we do.

660
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:12,080
And it's crazy because farming was such a standard as black Americans historically.

661
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,160
It was something that we were gifted at.

662
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,220
It was something that we, it was second nature.

663
00:30:17,220 --> 00:30:19,920
I even think of my grandparents' generation.

664
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,600
They grew up on farms.

665
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:27,400
My mom and their siblings grew up having to work on their grandparents' farms growing

666
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:28,400
up.

667
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,600
So we're just like one generation sort of removed from that being wiped away.

668
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:37,680
And I think we see some of the impacts of that in that a lot of us as a community, we

669
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,160
aren't grounded.

670
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:47,040
We don't have the ability to, like we see so much more diagnosed things of ADHD, anxiety,

671
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,400
a lot of emotional diagnosis.

672
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:55,720
And it's, I think a large part of that is because we're disconnected from nature and

673
00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:03,000
farming is one of those hobbies and crafts that just inevitably brings you back to nature.

674
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,560
It just does that by default.

675
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,960
So I think that's important to highlight.

676
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,160
It helps with balance too.

677
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,880
And I think every day is set on autopilot.

678
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,080
I did the work course forever and it felt like the twilight zone.

679
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,080
And I really couldn't take it anymore.

680
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,520
I was like, what's the purpose?

681
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,160
I need some more fulfillment out of this.

682
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,120
Anytime I worked a job, I did UPS for five years.

683
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,320
I did security for five years.

684
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,920
And every day I was there, it was like, I'm limited.

685
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:28,920
This is all I can do.

686
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:29,920
I get paid this an hour.

687
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,920
I'm allowed this many hours a day.

688
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:32,920
That's it.

689
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:33,920
And I go home.

690
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:34,920
And it was like, I don't like tax.

691
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:35,920
I don't like limits.

692
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:40,280
I like to push it as far as I want and scale it back as quick as I want.

693
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:45,200
So I go hard for months and then months I'm chilling because I reap the benefits from

694
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,320
the months before, stay cool with it and I can relax a little bit now.

695
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,200
But I'm obligated on autopilot and I couldn't take it.

696
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,200
I wasn't happy.

697
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:58,600
And plants kind of allowed me to balance my time, appreciate nature.

698
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,760
And it allowed me to also make an income off of it.

699
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,920
It was like the ultimate trifecta.

700
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:03,920
I can read off of it.

701
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,040
I could sell it and I could save money from it.

702
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,760
So it was like no brainer.

703
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:08,760
Right.

704
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:15,120
That is a dope thing about being self-sufficient in such a way where you're farming your land

705
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:20,120
to produce food, to produce economic opportunities.

706
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:24,720
Like you said, you get so much value out of something that you can create.

707
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:30,340
And I do think that is one of the dope things about self-sustaining, those self-generating

708
00:32:30,340 --> 00:32:33,200
sorts of things that you have to create and put the work in.

709
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:39,160
You start off with the vegetables, but more recently, you also started growing cannabis.

710
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:44,040
Realistically speaking, like that's not an easy shift I would imagine to just be like,

711
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:49,280
you know what, I just want to start growing something that is very taboo too in terms

712
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:54,920
of stigma, in terms of even I think the access to be able to do that.

713
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,400
Can we just talk about what that was like at the beginning when you made this decision?

714
00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:59,400
It was nerve-racking, man.

715
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:00,400
I was legit scared to do it.

716
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:01,400
I had some people I knew that grew in.

717
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:02,400
They kept pushing me to do it.

718
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:03,400
It's like, nah, you can grow anything.

719
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:04,400
You got a green thumb.

720
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,400
If you can grow this, bro, I'm telling you, you can grow this.

721
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,400
I'm like, nah, I can't.

722
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,400
I don't know how to do it.

723
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:08,400
And I just kept telling myself I couldn't.

724
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:09,400
But I got to grow it.

725
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:10,400
And I was like, I'm telling you, you can grow this.

726
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,400
I'm like, nah, I can't.

727
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,760
And I just kept telling myself I couldn't, but I got tired of it was out here too.

728
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,320
I'm a cannabis lover.

729
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:18,320
I'm not lying.

730
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,320
You know it.

731
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,840
But I got tired of everything that was out there was trash to me.

732
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:22,840
I got standards.

733
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,560
I'll spend big on meals.

734
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,120
When I get something, I want to really enjoy it.

735
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,120
I don't want to just get it and get through.

736
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,400
And I wasn't satisfied with it.

737
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,640
I took time and I got stuff all the way up the East Coast.

738
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,640
And even when I first started growing the plant for the very first time, I started thinking,

739
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,520
let's put the East Coast on the map.

740
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,880
West Coast has always been known for it.

741
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,280
I got to travel to the West Coast and try some stuff.

742
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,400
And I'm like, we're way behind.

743
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:49,400
I felt like a newbie.

744
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,800
I've been smoking since I was a teenager, like 15.

745
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,600
Mom, I'm sorry.

746
00:33:54,600 --> 00:34:02,200
And even back then, we enjoyed the stuff back then, but it didn't really have flavor.

747
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:03,720
It was just something new.

748
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:04,720
That was something that we had.

749
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,120
It was good times.

750
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:10,320
I guess it was so new to our body that we really got to enjoy it.

751
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:11,600
I wouldn't enjoy it right now.

752
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,240
I wouldn't enjoy anything I smoked back then.

753
00:34:14,240 --> 00:34:18,640
Now, when I went to Cali, it was like, oh, and then I went to Portland to visit my brother.

754
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,720
It was like, whoa, this is different.

755
00:34:20,720 --> 00:34:25,120
And I come back here and I will legit go without if I can't have what I want.

756
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:30,440
So after being open-eyed to what the West Coast was smoking, it was like, wow, you smoking

757
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:31,440
this.

758
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:32,440
You were acting like you enjoy it.

759
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:33,440
It's not big.

760
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:34,440
Yeah.

761
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:40,120
It's hard to go back to the hamburger helper once you didn't have some filets and rib eyes.

762
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,000
It's like, ah, yeah.

763
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,000
So I know my brother hooked me up with some seeds.

764
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,560
I just had a ton of people giving me advice on what to do.

765
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,000
I watched a ton of videos.

766
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:55,920
I actually bought the weed Bible book and I didn't understand anything in it.

767
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,200
I was like, I don't know what any of this means.

768
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,860
So I went back to the basics.

769
00:34:59,860 --> 00:35:03,160
Just go through it, figure it out, either make it to the end or fail and then figure

770
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,520
out why you failed or critique how you did it and get a little better.

771
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:07,520
I went through the first one.

772
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:08,520
It was fine.

773
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:09,520
It was lifted out of my mind.

774
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:10,520
It was good.

775
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:11,520
I was like, all right, now I got my feet wet.

776
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:12,520
Let's get it.

777
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:13,520
I'm ready to open a business.

778
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:14,520
I take this one time for me.

779
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:15,520
It takes making $10.

780
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:16,520
Now I want to make a mill.

781
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:17,520
So I was like, let's get it.

782
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:18,520
As I grew it, I learned.

783
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:19,520
I've grown a couple of groups.

784
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:20,520
My cousin put me onto a group on Facebook, weed world.

785
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:21,520
Shout out to weed world.

786
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,520
He put me in and was like, this is the admin of the group.

787
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:23,520
He was like, I'm going to do this.

788
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:24,520
I'm going to do this.

789
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:25,520
I'm going to do this.

790
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:38,520
I'm going to do this.

791
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:46,400
I'm going to do this.

792
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:56,760
I'm going to do this.

793
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,800
How did you get in there?

794
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:03,240
You were there admin now and you're selling stuff in the group and doing stuff.

795
00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:04,240
It was nice.

796
00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:05,240
She gave me tips.

797
00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:08,880
Then I joined another group with Dr. Green Thumb.

798
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,360
These people kind of understood the fear of growing a plant.

799
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,320
I'm afraid to grow a plant because if somebody come, you're in trouble.

800
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:21,960
Seeing other people doing it and then realizing how many other people did it for such a long

801
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:22,960
time.

802
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:23,960
I was like, you're growing?

803
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:24,960
I'm like, yeah, for a long time.

804
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:25,960
I was like, stop being trifling.

805
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:26,960
I scared money.

806
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:27,960
Don't make no money.

807
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:32,080
Let's grow some stuff and let's go ahead and go for this license to get legit.

808
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:36,160
I know medical marijuana comes somewhere down the line, but let's go ahead and get this

809
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,160
hemp license.

810
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,160
Let's learn.

811
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,160
I figured the first few years is just learn to plant.

812
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,640
It's the same plant.

813
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:42,640
Let's learn it.

814
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,080
It gives me time before I actually get out there and start pushing it.

815
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,320
I'm now at a point where I feel like I can grow it.

816
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:54,240
Now I'm learning how to maximize my yields and critique anything I'm scaling up to a

817
00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:57,920
larger amount so I can actually showcase it to dispensers.

818
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:02,000
I didn't have enough to push it out worldwide or nationwide.

819
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,120
I had just enough that I can handle solo.

820
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:10,280
I typically handle a solo so that I can learn every aspect of it and then I can train every

821
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,960
aspect of it and take the pressure off of me and actually just start delegating a little

822
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,880
bit and critiquing and getting them up to the standards that I want.

823
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,640
A hemp license.

824
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,640
Is this just as a matter of filling out a piece of paper?

825
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,360
What is that process like in the state of South Carolina?

826
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,480
What does the hemp hemp license provide?

827
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,520
So you need a clean background.

828
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,960
I don't know how clean my background is clean.

829
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,520
Talking to them, it's not like they just don't want any kind of drug possession charges on

830
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:38,520
your background.

831
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,400
It's what would stop you from being licensed to do one.

832
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,920
You need a farm license, a farm number.

833
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,640
So I had to figure out how to make my land farm.

834
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:53,840
I mean luckily years ago I actually made agriculture trying to save us some taxes and I was like

835
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,840
that was another reason why to start growing some things.

836
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:00,560
They wanted $4,000 a year in taxes for the land and I got it down to like $400 a year

837
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,360
so it was like I'll grow some stuff for that.

838
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,840
You need a farm number and they'll pay for it though.

839
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,200
Get your fingerprints done.

840
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,200
Submit the application.

841
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:14,080
They want your GPS coordinates so they know where you're at so stay clean.

842
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,960
Did you find it difficult?

843
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:21,320
Did you feel like you got put through any hurdles or was it just as simple as filling

844
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,600
out the requirements and waiting for approval?

845
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:29,520
The very first time I did it, whenever I'm not sure of something, I've never been through

846
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:30,520
the process.

847
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:35,000
I get a little anxiety because I don't know what the process is and I overly questioned

848
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,680
and asked what does it take?

849
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:38,680
What do I need?

850
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:39,680
After doing it, it was nothing.

851
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:45,440
It was more so what website to go to and they do a very good job at breaking down the steps.

852
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,400
The hemp agency out here actually answers the phone.

853
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,880
You have a question.

854
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,840
They helped me get my GPS coordinates.

855
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,520
The only thing I would say is if you get your fingerprints done, do it early.

856
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,520
As soon as license available, go ahead and get them done because they book up very fast

857
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:04,440
and they will deny you for missing it and they've extended it for like 30 days now but

858
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,640
it'll cost you an extra $500.

859
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:07,840
Oh wow.

860
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,000
So it's 500 bucks for the license for a year.

861
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,160
You got to renew every year.

862
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:17,560
So a hemp license costs 500 just to apply even if you don't get it or once you get it,

863
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:18,560
you pay your 500.

864
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:25,000
It's a $100 application fee and then you don't pay to actually go into orientation and get

865
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,000
approved.

866
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,080
So once they say welcome to the hemp license club, whatever, you basically go to the link

867
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:34,320
that they provide with you, pay it and then they'll send you an actual.

868
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:35,320
Wow.

869
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:41,120
So that hemp license gives you the ability to do what exactly?

870
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:46,920
The farm license gives me the ability to grow, to harvest, sell it to a middleman, to sell

871
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,400
it wholesale, to sell directly to the consumer, to ship nationwide.

872
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,720
And they also have a handler license.

873
00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:54,960
They have several handler's license.

874
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:59,080
One is I believe a delivery service, which we don't have many in South Carolina.

875
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:04,680
So you want to open a cannabis delivery service, you can go apply for the license and there's

876
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:05,680
no cutoff time.

877
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,160
You can do it any time of the year.

878
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,560
Whenever you do it, your year starts whenever you apply for it.

879
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,480
You reach out to all the growers and offer a service to deliver to dispensaries across

880
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:14,480
state lines and all.

881
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,680
You'll get a license and it's like 10 more bucks per employee that you hire that actually

882
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,180
works under your license.

883
00:40:20,180 --> 00:40:24,400
You can get a license to be a middleman, a broker, it's another handler's license, but

884
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,200
you can basically not have the ability to actually grow your product, but you can store

885
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:32,920
your product and have it and possess hundreds of pounds of it and actually market it and

886
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:33,920
sell it.

887
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:39,480
And if you're like somebody like yourself who's growing, do you need to have the multiples

888
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,800
to be able to sell and do all those things too?

889
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,600
Or how does that work?

890
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,240
My particular license allows me to do all of that.

891
00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:49,080
The only thing I'm exempt from doing is processing.

892
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,920
You'll have to get a separate license to process.

893
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:57,440
If you want to make oils and you want to make gummies and you want to extract the cannabinoids

894
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,400
and stuff from the butt itself, you'll have to have to get a processing license.

895
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,000
We plan on doing that in the future, but for now we're sticking with just the growing and

896
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,600
distribution part of it.

897
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:07,600
Okay.

898
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:08,600
Word.

899
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:09,600
Word.

900
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:15,400
And when we talk about growing hemp, like there are different types of hemp plants or

901
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:16,840
marijuana plants.

902
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:21,720
In the state of South Carolina, what are you allowed to grow with that hemp license?

903
00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:25,200
I am allowed to grow hemp CBD derived plants.

904
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,880
I'm not allowed to grow THC marijuana plants.

905
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:32,800
So marijuana and hemp is basically the same plant as a cannabis plant.

906
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,520
You just have certain active ingredients in it that one doesn't.

907
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,480
Hemp has 0.3% or less THC in it.

908
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,120
Anything above 0.3% is considered marijuana.

909
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,680
And THC gives you the psychoactive effects of marijuana, so of the cannabis plant.

910
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,920
So they don't want the psychoactive part of it here in South Carolina.

911
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,200
So we're sticking with the CBD part of it.

912
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:59,720
Is it something that you do as a farmer to make it CBD versus not, or is it the seed

913
00:41:59,720 --> 00:42:07,000
or the plant itself that determines if it will be CBD versus a marijuana plant?

914
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,960
You'll definitely have to buy seeds from a reputable breeder that has tested their plants

915
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:17,160
and can say that it grows to a certain ratio, CBD to THC.

916
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,440
And they'll specify that good for passing the hemp license testing and all of that.

917
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:22,800
And they give you advice.

918
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:27,000
I used Oregon CBD and I used their lineup for my plants.

919
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,560
And they will actually tell you a good time to actually test your plants.

920
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:35,480
I usually test my plants at about four weeks, which is about the halfway mark of the flowering

921
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:36,480
cycle.

922
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:37,480
And that's it.

923
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:38,680
You definitely have to get it.

924
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,200
You can't grow a THC plant and say you're going to get CBD out of it.

925
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:47,320
Because most THC dominant plants will be CBD not dominant.

926
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,960
You want to pay attention to who you get it from for sure.

927
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:54,840
If you grow marijuana seeds thinking you can test it early or harvest early, you're going

928
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:55,840
to fail.

929
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,880
Anything over 1% is a hit on your license.

930
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:02,400
Think three to five hits on your license will be a ban for five years or so.

931
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:03,400
Oh, wow.

932
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:04,400
Wow.

933
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,120
And a hit is considered a failed test?

934
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:12,000
I can test my plants at any time on my own and it's confidential.

935
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,600
I use clear water biometrics.

936
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,680
I can send my samples in privately and it sticks between me and them.

937
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,280
We have a really good relationship.

938
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:26,600
But if you request to get your cannabis plants tested for harvest, it's considered a formal

939
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:27,600
request.

940
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,040
You better be ready.

941
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:35,040
So if it's above 0.3%, but less than 1%, it's considered just a failed test.

942
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,520
But you can also request to retest it, which I failed.

943
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:39,520
We tested it in the past.

944
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,640
Environment pays a big factor into it.

945
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,400
You have to make sure the drier the plant is, the higher she tests.

946
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,460
So make sure she stays wet.

947
00:43:47,460 --> 00:43:49,200
Make sure the soil stays moist.

948
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:50,200
Sorry.

949
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,240
My cousin loves that word moist.

950
00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:54,280
But anyway, that's a practice.

951
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,200
The night before, I would water my plants heavily to get it tested.

952
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,080
And I send my plants in early parts of the week, Monday or Tuesday.

953
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:06,240
And I pay the extra to next day Eric because if it sits in the mail for three days and

954
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:10,040
you're in South Carolina, you're getting 100 degree weather, she's drying out real good.

955
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,040
Best believe you'll be real close to failing.

956
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:23,200
So there's techniques that you can use to make sure you pass.

957
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,120
I'm losing you on the vocal side.

958
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:33,400
Growing these CBD plants and oh, shout out because I was able to sample some of some

959
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:40,440
of the goodness and the Hawaiian, was it the Hawaiian silver?

960
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:41,440
Hawaiian haze.

961
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,440
Yeah.

962
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:56,560
Very, very flavorful plant that you have.

963
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,760
And I was surprised.

964
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,320
I'd never had CBD.

965
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,720
And you talk about getting introduced to quality.

966
00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:09,120
So a similar experience and that like I lived in Amsterdam for two years.

967
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:14,680
Once I had that experience with the culture and what was available, it was like, yeah,

968
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,120
this is a lot different than what I was used to growing up.

969
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:22,840
And then coming back from Amsterdam, I went straight to Cali and visited out there.

970
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,960
And then I went to Colorado and visited out there and it was like, yo, it is a whole new

971
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,400
world over here.

972
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:33,600
Like, like you said, the East Coast is lacking so much.

973
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,640
And when I had never had CBD until I tried some of your products.

974
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,680
And I was surprised at how similar some of the flavor profile was.

975
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:47,440
Like if the outside of the effects, right, everything else was, you really couldn't tell

976
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,040
the difference.

977
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,560
So we call that terpenes.

978
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,040
The terpenes is everything.

979
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,400
So what's over here?

980
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,400
Terpenes is it dictates the flavor.

981
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:03,960
It dictates the effects and every strain will give you something different.

982
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,880
And that everything tastes the same.

983
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:07,880
I didn't like that either.

984
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,520
Actually, what I was smoking was tasting like cardboard, man.

985
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:11,520
It didn't have any taste.

986
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,520
It was just like, I guess it sucked.

987
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:15,520
I didn't enjoy it.

988
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:16,520
I didn't want anymore.

989
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,240
If I put it out, I wasn't wanting to light it back up.

990
00:46:19,240 --> 00:46:20,440
And I'm a flavor man.

991
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:21,440
I like flavor.

992
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:22,440
So that was everything.

993
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,560
I've said, even if it didn't hit, it's harder.

994
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:25,560
Somebody would like it.

995
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:26,560
It tasted great.

996
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,560
I'm about to roll another one up.

997
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:29,560
It doesn't matter.

998
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:33,480
It's like getting that one knockout drink that made your face skin up or that mixed

999
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:34,480
drink that was delicious.

1000
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,320
And it's like, let me get another one.

1001
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,280
It's terpenes is everything.

1002
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,640
Terpenes decides the effects that you'll get from it.

1003
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,480
And it's such a wide range of effects that you can get from it.

1004
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,000
You can get something that helps suppress your appetite, something that gives you an

1005
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,760
appetite, something that works good with anxiety.

1006
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:55,080
And taking the wrong bud with the wrong terpene profile isn't helping you.

1007
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:59,520
So something that I do is I typically ask my people, one of the first questions I ask

1008
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,560
is, what do you want out of the plant?

1009
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:02,800
And most people don't know.

1010
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,480
Like, you just smoke the smoke.

1011
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,560
Like, yeah, like you've had anxiety attacks.

1012
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,680
You've had it where it just wasn't a pleasurable effect after the smoke.

1013
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,840
Like, yeah, like you're not smoking it for the right reasons.

1014
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,320
Find out what made you smoke.

1015
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:16,320
Find out why do you smoke.

1016
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,720
And smoking for me a lot of times was slowing myself down.

1017
00:47:19,720 --> 00:47:22,040
So I probably need to smoke something now.

1018
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:26,360
But most people are dealing with pain.

1019
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:27,960
Most people are dealing with depression.

1020
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:32,680
I physically used the plant last year for depression about a year ago now.

1021
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:33,920
And it hit me, man.

1022
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:39,120
I didn't even know what depression was to the point, like, I can say I felt aspects

1023
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:43,080
of it, but I was oblivious and ignorant to what actually was happening to me.

1024
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,080
Like, why do I feel weird?

1025
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,080
What is going on?

1026
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,080
Why am I aggy?

1027
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,080
What's going on?

1028
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:48,080
Just whatever.

1029
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:49,080
Fight through it.

1030
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:50,080
Keep going.

1031
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,320
Well, I had that spell where it was like, man down, you ain't moving.

1032
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,280
And nobody's really ever seen me like that.

1033
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,080
So it was like, what is going on with this, bro?

1034
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,560
I can hear everything around me.

1035
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,960
But I was so tapped out that it was like nothing mattered.

1036
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,320
And I had to kind of hold myself together.

1037
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:06,760
I came in the same room I'm in.

1038
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:07,760
We call this the lab.

1039
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,240
Where I kind of like come up with the ideas.

1040
00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:10,240
I come up with a concoction.

1041
00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:14,480
And I was like, man, you want to be some kind of herbalist and you want to do alternative

1042
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:15,480
healing.

1043
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,840
So what better person to test it out on than yourself?

1044
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:22,400
I looked up the terpene profiles on all the CBD strains that I had in stock at the moment.

1045
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,400
And I looked up Souver Hayes, 90% of the people.

1046
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:26,400
I use Leafly.com.

1047
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:27,880
That's a website that I use.

1048
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,240
Anything you ever get from me will have a strain name.

1049
00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:31,240
It won't be loud.

1050
00:48:31,240 --> 00:48:32,240
It won't be gas.

1051
00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:34,560
It will have a particular name to go with it.

1052
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,200
And you can look that up on Leafly and it will give you a full description of it.

1053
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,520
And you'll get customer reviews and it'll give it what it's good for.

1054
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,080
It's flavor profile and it's effect profile.

1055
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:48,400
And 90% of the people said it helped with anxiety, depression, panic attacks.

1056
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:49,760
I was having panic attacks.

1057
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,640
So I made an oil out of it and I made some tea.

1058
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,600
And then I made a body rub out of it.

1059
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,800
And I made a bath oil out of it.

1060
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,420
And I was catching a glimpse of relief.

1061
00:49:00,420 --> 00:49:04,000
Now I understand that that feeling isn't going to last forever.

1062
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,840
I'm not stuck in this depressive state.

1063
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,480
It's something that's going on.

1064
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:08,480
I got to figure it out.

1065
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:09,480
I got to slow down.

1066
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:10,480
I got to take a break.

1067
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:11,960
I need some relief though.

1068
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:17,840
In between it getting to a point and really kind of opened my eyes on, don't just grow

1069
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:18,840
and then sell it.

1070
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:19,840
Grow it for a purpose.

1071
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,120
Kind of help people do things.

1072
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:27,200
So since then I've helped a few people with the exact same conditions that I had, effects

1073
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:28,200
that I had.

1074
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:33,480
I was getting like tightening of the fingers, jittery eyes, excessive heart rate.

1075
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,040
Can't catch my breath.

1076
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:36,040
Everything closing in.

1077
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,040
And we're like, all right, we got to go to the hospital.

1078
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:39,040
And they'd be like, why?

1079
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:40,040
I don't know.

1080
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,040
It's about to happen.

1081
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:42,040
I couldn't tell you what it was.

1082
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:43,040
But they can go there.

1083
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,160
And when I got there, they were telling me my blood pressure was irate.

1084
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:46,800
It was sky high.

1085
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:47,800
I couldn't keep control.

1086
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:48,800
I had to keep pacing.

1087
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,520
I had to keep getting up.

1088
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:51,520
I couldn't.

1089
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,200
Then they told me that I was a panic attack and it started subsiding.

1090
00:49:55,200 --> 00:50:00,600
I started introducing Souvahase into my, I would say my diet because I ingest it as well.

1091
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:05,760
But as many different ways as I can intake my cannabinoids and my terpene profile from

1092
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,640
that particular plant, I do it on a daily basis now.

1093
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:09,640
And it helps.

1094
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,640
Yeah, that's the ingesting.

1095
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:20,920
Like, because it's CBD, I think for the average person who maybe got introduced to the THC

1096
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:27,040
plant and then it's like, well, why would I ever take CBD if it's not THC?

1097
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:32,040
Like a lot of people might think that way, but you're, you're highlighting some of what

1098
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,880
those benefits are that you don't get from THC.

1099
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:42,760
In fact, I think research has demonstrated that THC can unfortunately intensify the ____

1100
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:43,760
out of it.

1101
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:44,760
Exactly.

1102
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,080
It'll, it'll, it'll, it'll make you more anxious, more paranoid.

1103
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:53,760
And if you have like those hyper wound up tendencies, THC can have a negative effect,

1104
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:58,120
whereas CBD is actually what you probably need to help balance that out.

1105
00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:59,640
Yeah, I absolutely agree.

1106
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:05,680
So I also noticed because I pay very much attention, I will jot notes down in my head.

1107
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,760
So I'm bad about writing things down and I started actually paying attention.

1108
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,400
I stopped panicking, started actually paying attention.

1109
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,720
I would sit there and just watch my fingers start to twitch, then it would get locked

1110
00:51:16,720 --> 00:51:17,720
up.

1111
00:51:17,720 --> 00:51:20,080
And then in my arm, I thought I was having a heart attack.

1112
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:21,520
I started paying attention to it.

1113
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,560
And then I started noticing that I was getting it after smoking a blunt.

1114
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:29,760
I would smoke some weed and I was like, hold on, it's happening.

1115
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:30,760
It's happening.

1116
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,480
I'm like, you doing it to yourself, bro.

1117
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:33,480
Like chill.

1118
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,160
So I had to stop.

1119
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:37,160
I couldn't even smoke.

1120
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,000
I wouldn't even be in a room with you, man.

1121
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,640
Like everybody around me was enjoying Farmer J's smoke.

1122
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,360
And it was like, yep, stay over there.

1123
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:45,960
I don't want to be nowhere near you.

1124
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,880
I tapped it two times, I said, put it out.

1125
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:48,880
I can't touch it.

1126
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,400
So I legit went like four months, no tree.

1127
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,800
I've had other people that I just said, cut the tree out completely, smoked the CBD.

1128
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,520
They were like, what are the effects of it?

1129
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:02,120
I feel like we're only known marijuana to basically smoke and low eyes, heady high,

1130
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:03,120
and get high.

1131
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:04,120
That's it.

1132
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:05,840
That's what we consider good weed.

1133
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:06,840
That's what we consider.

1134
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:07,840
My eyes got low.

1135
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:08,840
Crazy, crazy much.

1136
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:09,840
My head was pounding.

1137
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:15,520
If it was extensively high, that was what it was.

1138
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,720
But the older you got, we kind of looked for some more calmness.

1139
00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:24,200
I can't do them ciphers like I was doing when I was in my early teens and in early 20s where

1140
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,160
it was just blunt after blunt going around the room.

1141
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:27,160
I'm more laid back now.

1142
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,000
I don't need to go that far to get what I need out of it.

1143
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:36,560
So I just started taking the CBD and I realized that I still felt satisfaction.

1144
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:37,560
I didn't have the low eyes.

1145
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:42,080
I didn't have the head high, but it was like something happened and I feel better now.

1146
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:48,640
Like me, that high pace, I have anxiety all the time, but I'm able to work through it.

1147
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:53,320
I'm able to understand that there's something happening because I'm overstimulated.

1148
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,120
I get anxiety when I'm overly happy.

1149
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:59,240
So I get anxiety when it's overly crazy and just hectic.

1150
00:52:59,240 --> 00:53:02,320
I've learned to just enjoy the CBD parts of it.

1151
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:03,800
More so my daily thing.

1152
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:08,480
I found some marijuana strains that will help me out and everything's categorized.

1153
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,080
I smoke them strategically.

1154
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:15,320
I'm not smoking some of the stuff, some of that stuff in the daytime because I won't

1155
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:16,320
be productive.

1156
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,320
I immediately have a, I will do it tomorrow.

1157
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:22,280
And it'd be like nine o'clock in the morning, but I like tapping out already.

1158
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,720
It ain't happening the other day.

1159
00:53:25,720 --> 00:53:27,120
So CBD helps.

1160
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:31,080
It helps me get that fixed, but I still have to go through it.

1161
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:36,280
And recently another partner of mine has created a one to one strain equal parts CBD equal parts

1162
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:37,280
TC.

1163
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:38,280
Oh wow.

1164
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:42,480
I believe that full spectrum is the way I can smoke.

1165
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:47,440
Full spectrum is basically equal parts of everything and there's different ways of doing

1166
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:48,440
it.

1167
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:53,800
So, so far out of a full spectrum cannabis plant, the flower that I get from it, I don't

1168
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:58,820
get the complete feeling that I get that that was a good feeling out of full spectrum mixing

1169
00:53:58,820 --> 00:54:02,000
it to where it's equal parts CBD in a blunt.

1170
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:06,880
And then I added some TC on top of it and mixed them into the blunt and roll it up.

1171
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:07,880
Same thing.

1172
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:12,280
So if I do overpowers the hell out of TC in my opinion, it, it counter effects the psychoactive

1173
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:13,280
part of it.

1174
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,480
So if I do 50 50, I'm not getting no psychoactive effects out of it.

1175
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:21,400
If I do a one to three ratio TC to CBD, I'm not getting a feeling.

1176
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,560
I have to basically do a sprinkle of CBD on top to balance it out.

1177
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:28,600
And I didn't like that either because flavor profiles, I kind of smoke certain things because

1178
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,200
I want to get the flavor out of that.

1179
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:36,080
What I have noticed is if I smoke a full blunt, a TC and I get to that point, I got low eyes,

1180
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,720
I'm borderline, did I smoke too much?

1181
00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:40,440
Did I stop in time?

1182
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:45,200
Because anytime you have an anxiety attack, it's basically like overdose overdose.

1183
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:46,520
You sent your body into shock.

1184
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,720
You took in more cannabinoids than you were supposed to.

1185
00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:52,440
It's too much like having a stomach ache.

1186
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:53,440
You ate too much.

1187
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:54,440
So you smoke too much.

1188
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,200
You got to find that sweet spot and let it settle and bring it on.

1189
00:54:58,200 --> 00:54:59,560
So I will smoke it.

1190
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:03,640
So about where I like and then I will come behind it and I'll ask you to smoke a pre

1191
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,400
roll CBD by itself.

1192
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:09,200
It's like the most perfect stress free balance.

1193
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:14,280
You go from extreme heart rate to just everything's just mellow floating through everything matrix.

1194
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:15,280
That's my my best.

1195
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,520
My my my preferred method of smoking is a balance.

1196
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,960
I don't want any disturbance while I'm smoking.

1197
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:26,360
I'm smoking for peace, not to increase what was going on before I started smoking.

1198
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:27,360
Word.

1199
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:32,400
You've been growing the cannabis plant for how long now?

1200
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:33,400
I've been growing.

1201
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:37,760
I have my license for three years will say that I've been growing in legal states on

1202
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:39,080
a better part of five years.

1203
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:44,600
I would go visit my brother, get some playtime, grow some stuff, learn some stuff, understand

1204
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,000
what he knew about it.

1205
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,940
And anytime you tell me this is how something go, I'm always critiquing it.

1206
00:55:49,940 --> 00:55:51,120
Even if I believe you're right.

1207
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:52,120
I'm not.

1208
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:53,120
It's not that I don't believe you're right.

1209
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:54,640
I'm always looking for a better way of doing things.

1210
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,520
So when you tell me this is this and I can actually understand why something happens

1211
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:03,640
and why it works, I'm always able to make it work better for me or make it productive,

1212
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:04,640
more productive.

1213
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:09,320
So I got time to actually practice with him and and learn some of these things and critique

1214
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:10,320
it a little bit.

1215
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:14,960
And after every first global I had, I want to say like he broke me in.

1216
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:19,480
He had like a I want to say like a 20 yard tote, like laundry tote.

1217
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:20,760
And it was just full of tree breath.

1218
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:21,760
And it was trimming time.

1219
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,200
And I'll tell you this, by the time I finished trimming, I didn't want to see no tree.

1220
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:26,280
I didn't want to touch it.

1221
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:27,280
I want to smoke it.

1222
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:28,560
I just wanted to get away from it.

1223
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,080
So I was like, I already see this is going to be a problem.

1224
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,640
Because in order to make the dollars that I want, I'm going to have to go hundreds

1225
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:35,640
of pounds and I'll be damned.

1226
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:39,800
I'm going to be sitting there trimming by hand and trimming all of this stuff up this

1227
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:40,800
way.

1228
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:41,800
So I started critiquing it then.

1229
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:42,800
Every grow, something happens.

1230
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:43,800
Every grow, I learned something.

1231
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:44,800
Every grow, I adjusted something.

1232
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:49,080
So I'm at a point now where I'm scaling up.

1233
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:53,320
I'm finishing up my biggest building that I've designed and executed.

1234
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,080
I always go from scratch.

1235
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:56,640
I don't just get somebody to do it.

1236
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,360
I got to GM the whole job.

1237
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,200
I got to find the person that I think can do it the best and see my vision.

1238
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:05,360
If you don't see my vision, then I can't really hire you unless you just straight professionally

1239
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:06,920
get the job done for certain things.

1240
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:07,920
But I GM it.

1241
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:09,080
I take my time.

1242
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:14,800
It took me from February to now, way past my expectations of when I would be done with

1243
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:15,800
this building.

1244
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:21,200
And it was more so finding the right people, working through getting a license and inspections.

1245
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:22,640
I've never done any of that.

1246
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:23,640
I always worked under the tables.

1247
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:24,640
Like, I'm not talking to nobody.

1248
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:25,640
I do what I want.

1249
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:30,120
But if I want to get into the medical field of it, then I have to have everything on the

1250
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:31,120
books.

1251
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,480
They have to be able to look back and see, I don't want anything to come back and bite

1252
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:34,920
me because I didn't do it the right way.

1253
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:39,280
So this way, this right there, we don't want to right way with it.

1254
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,400
And the next two buildings, I don't want to be in there 30 days.

1255
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,160
Now I understand what it takes.

1256
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,920
Understand what license, understand what inspection I need.

1257
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,160
30 days in and out, turnkey from delivery or that building.

1258
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,440
And I'll be able to start flipping these things.

1259
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:57,440
You've already built or you're in the process of finishing your first building.

1260
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:01,840
What is this building going to allow you to scale to once it's done?

1261
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:06,080
So I was going, I repurposed a lot of my spaces.

1262
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,800
I was growing in a room that I was doing the microgreens and the lettuce in.

1263
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,320
And that turned into a chill room, a little man cave.

1264
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,400
And it was like, let's get back to the dollars.

1265
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,400
And it turned into my growth space for my growth.

1266
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:20,240
The max I've been able to push out of that room was about 10 pounds at a time.

1267
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:25,600
It's not really enough to get to a point where I can say, I can talk to this dispensary and

1268
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,800
I can have him on a schedule or subscription where he's getting a pound a month.

1269
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,440
I can't fulfill a whole month with one possession.

1270
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:35,360
So I didn't want to get to the point where I was like, I can't get you this month, but

1271
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:36,360
I'll get you next month.

1272
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,640
Because people get, they'll go the other direction quickly.

1273
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,720
You're only as good as how consistently you can keep doing it.

1274
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:50,000
So I wanted to, I wanted to keep it at a scale to where I felt proud of the income that I

1275
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,000
was making from it.

1276
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,360
But I knew the potential was only the amount that I had.

1277
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:59,520
And now I'm going from being able to push 10 pounds per grow out of this room.

1278
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:00,880
So every what?

1279
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:06,200
Like eight, 10 weeks, so to speak for four months, like four months for me.

1280
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,320
And it's kind of like a perpetual grow.

1281
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:11,840
Like basically by the time I harvest, I've already got a group of plants that's been

1282
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:16,360
growing in a smaller location for a month that I basically put right in after I sterilize

1283
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,560
and clean the room for weeks, flip again.

1284
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:22,320
So every three to four months, just depending on how on top of it I am, because I'm doing

1285
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,040
50 projects at one time.

1286
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:25,440
That's just one aspect of it.

1287
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:29,080
And anything that I've made so far from it has went right back into it.

1288
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,120
So everybody that's helped me, I'm saying they're my sponsors.

1289
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:33,120
I appreciate you.

1290
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:36,080
I'm trying to, trying to do this for us as a people, as a culture.

1291
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:41,040
You don't know many black farmers, but I'm trying to set an example that we can also

1292
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:42,040
do this as well.

1293
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:46,400
And I'm open to everybody, of course, everybody for the culture isn't race dominant.

1294
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:50,920
It's for all the people that had to sneak and buy weed, that had to hide it, that got

1295
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,560
locked up for throwing it and smoking it.

1296
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,720
Anybody that's been for the culture, that's what for the culture is.

1297
00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:01,920
But it's a personal achievement to kind of fill the minority gap in it.

1298
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:07,280
And the minority gap in it is really because you don't know, it seems more difficult than

1299
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:08,280
it is.

1300
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:12,600
So I will be offering classes and I'll be offering help with filling licenses out and

1301
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:13,600
starting your plant.

1302
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:18,880
I'll provide an SOP on how to actually grow the plant and do it the right way.

1303
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:22,920
You grow great and you match my integrity for the plant.

1304
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,960
As far as what I put out there as a product, I can help you get rid of some of it.

1305
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,120
So I'm not just putting anybody's stuff out there.

1306
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,720
You'd have to exceed what I'm pushing for.

1307
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:33,520
You mean we might be able to work together.

1308
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,480
I'm still kind of doing most of the growing part solo.

1309
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:40,320
The logistics part of it, I got wifey, you know, Kush right here.

1310
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:41,440
She embroidered this for me.

1311
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:47,040
I got my boy George that jumps in the loop a lot and helps me with a lot of the crazy

1312
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:48,040
ideas.

1313
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,680
I want something that you can put a hole through it and it's going to have a face on it.

1314
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:52,520
It's going to feed this and feed that.

1315
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,600
He's the dude that's like, I'll smoke one.

1316
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:55,600
I think I got it.

1317
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,120
And then we're in there just building it.

1318
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:58,680
So somebody that can vibe with you.

1319
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,000
I got my boy, my nephew that helps me out.

1320
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,960
I got big Bubba Jerome that's been there forever helping me out.

1321
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:05,400
Bubba G that's been helping me out.

1322
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:09,480
I got a lot of people out there that aren't always physically able to help me out, but

1323
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:13,160
they're always telling me to keep going because it's hard to stay focused.

1324
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:17,200
It's your brain and your mind and that depression will always take you be at it for a month

1325
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,200
and then you go like, you know, I ain't even be able to do good at it.

1326
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:20,680
And I'll just give up now.

1327
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,040
And they kind of keep me grounded.

1328
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:23,040
They keep me going forward.

1329
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,040
The need for it keeps me going forward.

1330
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:26,040
What I'm about.

1331
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:32,040
I think, I think this is important too, because especially today, there's a new opportunity.

1332
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:41,040
A lot of black families have land within the family, but it's just land and it's undeveloped

1333
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:44,320
and nobody's really doing anything with it.

1334
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:48,120
Maybe it won't even make it to the next generation because the whoever has it is don't want to

1335
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:52,120
keep paying taxes on it because nobody's doing anything with it.

1336
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,580
And states like Virginia.

1337
01:01:54,580 --> 01:01:58,440
So I'm in North Carolina, you're in South Carolina, but right above us, Virginia has

1338
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:02,880
gone recreational DC, Maryland and on up north.

1339
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:07,240
So it seems like we're, we're quote unquote next in line in terms of North Carolina, South

1340
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:08,240
Carolina.

1341
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,240
But we'll see when, when that day comes.

1342
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:17,320
But I say this to say that's going to present opportunities to do something that with that

1343
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:22,360
land that can be very lucrative that we have not been able to take advantage of like in

1344
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:23,360
the past.

1345
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:28,720
And you, someone like yourself putting in this groundwork, not only on how to grow,

1346
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:35,600
but how to build facilities to grow at scale, which is a big key to the process too.

1347
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,000
Because like I said, that land is there, but what are we going to do with it?

1348
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:39,000
What are we going to build on it?

1349
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:40,500
What are we going to grow on it?

1350
01:02:40,500 --> 01:02:45,680
But you literally have taken land and just built stuff on top of it through trial and

1351
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:49,300
error, YouTube, university, figuring it out.

1352
01:02:49,300 --> 01:02:51,320
And now you're growing a facility to scale.

1353
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:55,600
You said you're going to go from 10 or roughly 10 pounds every three or so months to how

1354
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,440
many once this is done, give or take.

1355
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,600
We're talking 40 to 50 pounds per grow.

1356
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:07,080
So you're, you're a four to five X in your operation with this one unit with that volume.

1357
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:12,000
Do you like, is that going to be enough to help you do the next phase of what you need

1358
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,560
or do you think you need those other two or three units as well?

1359
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:19,800
It will, it will basically finance everything forward.

1360
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:23,120
I mean, right now I'm basically just hustling months at a time.

1361
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:26,360
I go months without spending and I, and you put it right in.

1362
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:32,040
My family's patient with me to trust me with making the choice that that's going to work

1363
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:33,680
for how I see this thing going.

1364
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:35,920
Give me full control of what move is next.

1365
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:40,840
Trust me, we're going to pay this a little late so that we can go ahead and get this

1366
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,920
up and going because I kept up with everything on time, man.

1367
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:47,160
I wouldn't even have the finance to build up everything.

1368
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,240
I didn't want to stick check, check, check.

1369
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,080
I went years, bro, bad credit.

1370
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:53,080
Can't get a loan.

1371
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:54,800
Can't get a hundred dollar credit card.

1372
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,320
But I was always good at hustling and stacking bread up.

1373
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:01,520
So I just got to the point where I started putting that money in and investing in got

1374
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:07,960
my own LLCs and started my own 401ks and started saving some money on taxes by putting it in

1375
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:08,960
the IRA.

1376
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:13,560
And now we just basically use the income from the business to supply the next one.

1377
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:17,960
And at times we'll take a loan off the 401k and pay back no interest.

1378
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:19,640
Pay yourself back no interest.

1379
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:21,200
So that's, that's, that's pretty good.

1380
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:26,240
But this one building is going to basically be able to supply the next building a hundred

1381
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:27,880
percent in the first year.

1382
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:32,920
So a full year of growing in that room, I'll be able to have enough bread to do the very

1383
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:34,480
next building a hundred percent.

1384
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:38,920
And like I said, 30 days in and out turn key you ready to start another growth.

1385
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:43,040
And then the following year, those two buildings will basically be a lot, allow me to do two

1386
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:48,560
more buildings than I'm at for and I can keep scaling up with leaving residual leftover

1387
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:52,600
to take care of home a little bit less stressful and keep pushing forward.

1388
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:59,100
I think it's dope because again, a lot of opportunities are ahead and individuals like

1389
01:04:59,100 --> 01:05:05,000
yourself who have figured it out from the ground up, that's opportunities to help enlighten

1390
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:08,040
other people on how they can build something for themselves.

1391
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:14,480
I could easily foresee just that part alone, helping other people figure out how to build

1392
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:19,180
something where they can grow for themselves in a sustainable way to also make some money

1393
01:05:19,180 --> 01:05:20,180
from it.

1394
01:05:20,180 --> 01:05:23,920
Like that is very dope and you're at the forefront of it.

1395
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:28,440
Being in a state like South Carolina and like you say, you're, you're, you're going through

1396
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:34,000
a new process, dealing with inspections and, and you're learning a lot of lessons.

1397
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,640
Can we just talk about what, what, what's behind you?

1398
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,800
I see you got, you got several bags behind you.

1399
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:44,480
Can you just walk me through a little bit about what, what's in store here?

1400
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:49,280
Is that, is that allowed there to give us just a little insight on some of the great

1401
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,440
things the farm has produced here?

1402
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:57,600
Yeah, I've got some Hawaiian haze, some Electra, some special sauce, some Subahase.

1403
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:01,640
So the four screens that I currently have in stock, not too sure if I want to show too

1404
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:05,800
much on camera and they kind of like drop the whole feed, but you can always hit me

1405
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:06,800
up personally.

1406
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,320
All my personal info is listed.

1407
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:10,320
You can get it from me.

1408
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:11,840
You can, you can directly hit me up.

1409
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:13,120
My phone number is right there.

1410
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:14,120
My email is there.

1411
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:15,120
My messenger is there.

1412
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,400
If you don't want to give your phone number out.

1413
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,920
I do offer in-person tours at times.

1414
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,160
I have a lot of people come visit the farm.

1415
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:23,600
I will definitely teach, man.

1416
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:24,600
I'll definitely show.

1417
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:26,600
I'll definitely want hold back information.

1418
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:31,680
My goal is to teach a hundred people how to become successful in this.

1419
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:33,240
And that's just a starter goal.

1420
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:36,760
Once I reach that, then we're going to push it out a little further.

1421
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:41,080
I've ran several businesses, man, like, and I've stopped them not because they weren't

1422
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:44,440
making income, it's just because it wasn't something that I wanted to do every day.

1423
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:45,960
I didn't want to just do it for money.

1424
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,520
I just, I wanted to, wanted to have something out of it.

1425
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:51,800
I wanted it to be useful for me, for my home, for my family.

1426
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:55,160
I wanted to be able to hire my family as employees.

1427
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:58,760
Like the people that actually get paid for helping me do these things are blood.

1428
01:06:58,760 --> 01:06:59,760
It's my household.

1429
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:01,760
My son is 16, 15.

1430
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,680
He'll be 16 this year and he's making income already.

1431
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:06,760
I mean, he's got his bank account set up.

1432
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:08,800
He's got W-2s coming in for working.

1433
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:14,200
So the fact of being able to not just do it for me, but to, you know, have it feed the

1434
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:16,000
family, not just me feed the family.

1435
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:19,720
Cause my last name Dunning that I hold, it holds some heavy weight, man.

1436
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:23,200
It's the man the family's been providers forever.

1437
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:25,200
We've been, we hold a family together.

1438
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:26,560
We don't leave no man behind.

1439
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:30,320
It may take longer than necessary, but we always come back and hold our word.

1440
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:35,520
I feel that weight of making sure everybody makes it minus all of that hell you got to

1441
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,400
go through in the beginning of life.

1442
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:41,120
Most people are starting from scratch, working a job, making as much as they can.

1443
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:42,680
Not everybody's doing a career.

1444
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:44,800
You're not making enough to do what you have to do.

1445
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,640
And that's good for experience and getting out into the world.

1446
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:51,920
But I wanted mines to be able to make much more and invested into what they want to do

1447
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:52,920
with their life.

1448
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:53,920
You can stay with it.

1449
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:57,400
If this is what you want to do, they use this business as a staple to finance some of the

1450
01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:00,920
things that you want to get started minus all the hell it takes to make a good income

1451
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:01,920
these days.

1452
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:02,920
Hmm.

1453
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:03,920
Yeah.

1454
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:04,920
For sure.

1455
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:05,920
For sure.

1456
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:09,720
Man, the name of the farms, DBK Farms, what does that DBK stand for?

1457
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:11,200
Destined to be Kings, man.

1458
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:13,440
It stood for many things, man.

1459
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:19,400
DBK has been in front of every business that I've started since I was 21, man.

1460
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:23,240
I've had Dunning Bullified Kennels, I think was the very first thing it was.

1461
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:27,840
And then I just left DBK as Destined to be King.

1462
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:28,840
And it was a staple.

1463
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,360
They didn't mean anything behind the front of everything.

1464
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:34,520
It was just that whenever you saw DBK, it was always five star.

1465
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:36,720
You've never had a bad review ever.

1466
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,400
You can't find one person, I put it out there.

1467
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,520
If I ever did you dirty, say something about it.

1468
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:45,560
So the vibe that you get from seeing DBK is I trust them.

1469
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:46,920
I already know what time it is.

1470
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:50,760
If I put DBK in front of an idea that I'm planning for the future, people already know

1471
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:51,760
I'm about it.

1472
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:52,760
I'm going to do it.

1473
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:56,560
I'm going to be dope and I'm going to succeed at it because I won't stop until I figure

1474
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:57,560
it out.

1475
01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:58,560
So it's our branding.

1476
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,360
I don't really use it no more.

1477
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:03,280
We really go by Farmer J's Natural Remedies.

1478
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:07,560
My boy Donny gave me Farmer J way back when I was farming out here and getting started.

1479
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:08,560
And I hated the name.

1480
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,360
I hated Farmer J. I was like, stop calling me that.

1481
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:12,360
And then it just started clicking.

1482
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:18,520
And then I'm at a gas station and somebody's like, yo, Farmer J. I looked at him and I'm

1483
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:19,520
like, that's me.

1484
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:20,520
And then it just kind of stuck.

1485
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,320
No, I'm holding strong to it.

1486
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:23,320
I'm sticking with it.

1487
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:28,840
It's something to be known for and it represents something major, I hope, one day.

1488
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:29,840
No doubt, man.

1489
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:34,120
You're setting yourself up for long-term success.

1490
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:37,320
The vision is there, which is something I can see.

1491
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:40,040
And you're moving toward the vision.

1492
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:46,600
And that's something that I respect from creators, entrepreneurs, people who pursue their ideas

1493
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:47,600
and thoughts.

1494
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,880
It's clear that you're not just doing it off of a whim.

1495
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:54,120
You're aiming for something and you're moving steadily towards it.

1496
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:58,280
I can't wait to see what that ends up or continues to evolve into.

1497
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:02,800
But G-S**t Podcast is definitely going to keep supporting Farmer J and all the products

1498
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:04,560
that you got to offer.

1499
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:10,160
And for those listening, again, if you've never tried CBD, I would recommend right here

1500
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:11,820
with that Hawaiian.

1501
01:10:11,820 --> 01:10:14,080
That thing is so flavorful.

1502
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:16,040
It's so fluffy and light.

1503
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:18,440
You will definitely enjoy that Hawaiian.

1504
01:10:18,440 --> 01:10:20,480
I could say that from experience.

1505
01:10:20,480 --> 01:10:24,880
And the Electra, I have to say, the Electra was pretty good, but the Hawaiian was...

1506
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:25,880
It stood out.

1507
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:27,680
It stood out for sure.

1508
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:29,400
For sure.

1509
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:30,680
And we got the link.

1510
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:34,200
We got the information in the description, so y'all make sure you check that out.

1511
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:38,040
Farmer J, do you got any just final words or anything you want to leave with the audience

1512
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:39,560
before we close out?

1513
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:42,720
I appreciate everybody listening and just understand.

1514
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:46,840
I don't put too much information out there in the book because there's a very thin line

1515
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:51,920
between crossing their line and getting banned for stuff and getting Facebook jailed and

1516
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:52,920
all that crazy stuff.

1517
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:53,920
I don't want no parts to that.

1518
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:55,960
But if you ever got a question, inbox me.

1519
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:56,960
I put it out there.

1520
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:57,960
The brave ones know.

1521
01:10:57,960 --> 01:10:58,960
Word up.

1522
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:06,000
This is the G*****t Podcast where we focus on family, friends, finances, freedom, and

1523
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:09,160
our future and f**k everything else.

1524
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:11,320
Shout out to Farmer J for joining.

1525
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:12,320
Make sure y'all subscribe.

1526
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:13,320
Greatly appreciate y'all.

1527
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:32,320
Thank y'all.