WEBVTT 00:00:00.430 --> 00:00:05.110 Welcome, everyone, to episode 463 of Signals 00:00:05.110 --> 00:00:08.570 from Mars. I'm your host, Victor, and for this 00:00:08.570 --> 00:00:13.050 episode, I welcome Rob DeLuca of the New York 00:00:13.050 --> 00:00:17.710 band, Spread Eagle. If you know anything about 00:00:17.710 --> 00:00:20.809 my past, Spread Eagle was interview number two 00:00:20.809 --> 00:00:25.309 for me going all the way back to 1992, so this 00:00:25.309 --> 00:00:58.390 episode is special to me. 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It goes a long way to help me secure 00:04:35.649 --> 00:04:40.250 other interviews along the way. Also share this 00:04:40.250 --> 00:04:45.490 with like -minded friends who like Spread Eagle 00:04:45.490 --> 00:04:49.930 or like other bands that are similar, like any 00:04:49.930 --> 00:04:53.470 type. of hard rock or metal. And I have to say 00:04:53.470 --> 00:04:57.149 that I've always liked different types of music, 00:04:57.370 --> 00:05:01.209 different types of hard rock and metal. To me, 00:05:01.230 --> 00:05:03.029 that's why a band like Spread Eagle is important. 00:05:03.209 --> 00:05:05.250 Not only are they from the general area where 00:05:05.250 --> 00:05:08.170 I grew up, not only did I get to interview Ray 00:05:08.170 --> 00:05:14.329 West, you know, back in 92, but also there's 00:05:14.329 --> 00:05:16.370 just something about bands like Spread Eagle, 00:05:16.670 --> 00:05:22.360 LA Guns, bands of this ilk that maybe were grouped 00:05:22.360 --> 00:05:26.339 into other 80s bands, but were a little bit more 00:05:26.339 --> 00:05:29.959 dangerous, a little bit grittier, a little bit 00:05:29.959 --> 00:05:34.879 nastier, and I think their music has stood the 00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:39.579 test of time as a result. So anyway, thank you 00:05:39.579 --> 00:05:43.420 for listening to this episode, and let's get 00:05:43.420 --> 00:05:47.199 on with it. Let's get into my interview with... 00:05:47.449 --> 00:06:11.670 Ray DeLuca from Spread Eagle. Here we go. Joining 00:06:11.670 --> 00:06:16.589 me today is Rob DeLuca from Spread Eagle. Rob, 00:06:16.689 --> 00:06:19.730 how are you today? Very good. Thank you for having 00:06:19.730 --> 00:06:23.029 me, Vic. I appreciate being here. Yeah, absolutely. 00:06:23.290 --> 00:06:25.850 It's great to have you on. Spread Eagle is a 00:06:25.850 --> 00:06:30.050 band that I have had an affinity for since the 00:06:30.050 --> 00:06:34.529 early 90s. I seem to have this streak of just 00:06:34.529 --> 00:06:36.910 interviewing bands from the Northeast the last 00:06:36.910 --> 00:06:40.579 few months. And I've said it to a lot of different 00:06:40.579 --> 00:06:44.100 artists. There's just something special about 00:06:44.100 --> 00:06:49.480 bands that come out of from DC up to Boston. 00:06:49.660 --> 00:06:51.939 You know, there's just a certain grit, a certain 00:06:51.939 --> 00:06:56.980 element, a certain attitude, swagger. And hearing 00:06:56.980 --> 00:07:01.800 that first spread Eagle album, it just. Struck 00:07:01.800 --> 00:07:04.279 that nerve and it was, these are one of my guys, 00:07:04.399 --> 00:07:07.980 you know, so I've always enjoyed the band, followed 00:07:07.980 --> 00:07:10.500 the band. So it's great to have you on. Thank 00:07:10.500 --> 00:07:13.000 you. That's very nice of you. It must be something 00:07:13.000 --> 00:07:19.180 in the Hudson River water. Could be. So we talked 00:07:19.180 --> 00:07:23.980 a little bit off air about radio stations and 00:07:23.980 --> 00:07:27.500 whatnot, and you brought up WSOU. And the first 00:07:27.500 --> 00:07:32.959 time I ever heard you guys. was on SOU. And back 00:07:32.959 --> 00:07:37.459 then, I mean, you could hear Switchblade Serenade, 00:07:37.540 --> 00:07:40.620 you could hear Broken City, you could hear the 00:07:40.620 --> 00:07:43.480 title track or the self -titled track, however 00:07:43.480 --> 00:07:48.139 you want to call it from the first album. Why 00:07:48.139 --> 00:07:50.480 do you think that you guys connected with that 00:07:50.480 --> 00:07:55.220 audience so early? That's a really good question. 00:07:55.339 --> 00:08:00.529 I'm not sure. I mean, At the time, I assumed 00:08:00.529 --> 00:08:03.529 it's because we were local. I mean, we were from 00:08:03.529 --> 00:08:07.829 New York City, but, you know, Seton Hall, you 00:08:07.829 --> 00:08:13.649 know, New Jersey is close. I mean, the music 00:08:13.649 --> 00:08:17.509 was pretty strong and aggressive. I think also, 00:08:17.569 --> 00:08:25.829 you know, we were like a link between sleaze. 00:08:26.699 --> 00:08:30.000 And or what, you know, you would call today is 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:34.360 like 80s metal or whatever or hair metal or we're 00:08:34.360 --> 00:08:37.679 a link between sleaze and like thrash a little 00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:40.019 bit, you know, something between sleaze and something 00:08:40.019 --> 00:08:43.659 heavier. So we filled a spot that there wasn't 00:08:43.659 --> 00:08:52.740 a whole lot of bands occupying. So, you know, 00:08:52.740 --> 00:08:54.960 heavier people who are into heavier music like 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:59.620 this. People who are into this, you know, basic 00:08:59.620 --> 00:09:04.799 sleaze like this. So maybe that's the reason. 00:09:04.879 --> 00:09:07.700 I'm not sure. But yes, they did really get behind 00:09:07.700 --> 00:09:12.259 us. We had a lot of top 10 songs on that radio 00:09:12.259 --> 00:09:14.919 station, WSOU. And not just the first album, 00:09:15.059 --> 00:09:17.460 Devil's Road and stuff on the second album also. 00:09:18.340 --> 00:09:22.960 I think Revolution Maker did well. So, yeah, 00:09:23.019 --> 00:09:26.480 it was, and they're still around. I don't, I 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:28.539 don't, I don't think they know about us anymore. 00:09:28.620 --> 00:09:30.759 I don't think, I don't know if they know we're, 00:09:30.759 --> 00:09:35.000 we're releasing new music, but, but they're still 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:38.759 around. And that was, it was a great time. Great 00:09:38.759 --> 00:09:41.519 station. Yeah. It's interesting from time to 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:44.879 time, they do have like throwback episodes and 00:09:44.879 --> 00:09:48.799 they bring old DJs back. Unfortunately with all 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:51.500 that stuff, obviously they're, they always gravitate 00:09:51.500 --> 00:09:55.240 to all the huge bands from the era, as opposed 00:09:55.240 --> 00:09:59.059 to maybe just focusing in on the bands that you 00:09:59.059 --> 00:10:02.519 would consider more local to the scene. Yeah, 00:10:02.539 --> 00:10:04.159 but if you looked, there's certain, you know, 00:10:04.179 --> 00:10:07.519 it's undeniable that certain bands from the era 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:10.240 got really big and Spread Eagle, you know, is 00:10:10.240 --> 00:10:14.200 this niche. But if you look at SOU's rate of 00:10:14.200 --> 00:10:18.299 charts, I guess you would call it, from 1990, 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:21.159 we compete with... the Guns N' Roses and the 00:10:21.159 --> 00:10:25.340 Metallicas. So, you know, it would, you know, 00:10:25.340 --> 00:10:27.179 so that argument kind of goes out the window, 00:10:27.259 --> 00:10:30.700 you know, of, you know, for that particular station 00:10:30.700 --> 00:10:35.379 and that particular time. But yeah, I'm sorry. 00:10:35.440 --> 00:10:38.000 I don't know how to turn off these notifications 00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:43.659 that come in. Yeah, no problem. So, yeah, you 00:10:43.659 --> 00:10:45.279 know, it was a great time. You were spinning 00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:47.899 us. They were spinning us. We were lucky guys. 00:10:48.750 --> 00:10:50.850 And we're still talking to you because of that. 00:10:51.230 --> 00:10:57.110 Yeah. Go figure. I got to talk to you guys with 00:10:57.110 --> 00:11:01.710 the second album and open to the public. And 00:11:01.710 --> 00:11:06.129 luckily enough, this past summer, I was rummaging 00:11:06.129 --> 00:11:10.110 through my parents' attic in New Jersey. And 00:11:10.110 --> 00:11:12.990 I came back with, I don't even know what you 00:11:12.990 --> 00:11:16.679 call it. It's over my shoulder here. which is, 00:11:16.700 --> 00:11:19.179 it's the cover of the album and it's signed by 00:11:19.179 --> 00:11:21.840 all four members of the band. I guess you could 00:11:21.840 --> 00:11:26.679 call that a flat, a promo flat. Okay. So yeah, 00:11:26.700 --> 00:11:29.279 so that survived all these years in an attic 00:11:29.279 --> 00:11:34.039 and it traveled the world and it's now in this 00:11:34.039 --> 00:11:36.799 episode. Thank you. Thank you for saving that. 00:11:38.700 --> 00:11:41.899 pack rat about not about everything but about 00:11:41.899 --> 00:11:44.879 spread eagle memorabilia i i collect all that 00:11:44.879 --> 00:11:47.279 i don't have that what you're talking about but 00:11:47.279 --> 00:11:51.500 uh i collect a lot of stuff also i probably have 00:11:51.500 --> 00:11:53.679 that but not signed by all four of us so that's 00:11:53.679 --> 00:11:58.000 pretty special yeah the bar solo changed his 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:01.899 name 15 or 20 years ago so you you couldn't even 00:12:01.899 --> 00:12:05.200 get that these days you know even if if you met 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:07.639 him and said hey sign this from back in the day 00:12:08.240 --> 00:12:12.000 he's a different person now. Right. The interesting 00:12:12.000 --> 00:12:15.320 thing with the flat is that you and Ray signed 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:18.460 the same side and the other two signed the other 00:12:18.460 --> 00:12:23.600 side. Ah, it's a deeper meaning, huh? Vic? Yeah. 00:12:23.720 --> 00:12:25.899 I was looking at that. I'm like, is this foreshadowing? 00:12:25.940 --> 00:12:28.460 You know what, well, what would come to be, but 00:12:28.460 --> 00:12:31.799 you know, I guess that's just, uh, through osmosis 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:36.179 that took place. Yeah. Ray and I, uh, are still 00:12:36.179 --> 00:12:42.019 really, We went to war together and we're still 00:12:42.019 --> 00:12:48.860 at war. And we never really had a problem, never 00:12:48.860 --> 00:12:51.980 had an argument or anything like that over 36 00:12:51.980 --> 00:12:55.220 years. Of course, we have different opinions 00:12:55.220 --> 00:12:57.539 on things. That's the beauty of it. And that's 00:12:57.539 --> 00:13:02.259 why we're here now, because him and I are both. 00:13:03.990 --> 00:13:06.750 We care about it so much. We have, you know, 00:13:06.750 --> 00:13:08.450 we have our different opinions on how to get 00:13:08.450 --> 00:13:12.450 to it. And we have Rick DeLuca in the band and 00:13:12.450 --> 00:13:14.830 Johnny Paletta in the band. And those guys are 00:13:14.830 --> 00:13:18.230 fantastic. So we're lucky to still be playing 00:13:18.230 --> 00:13:23.629 music and we still truly enjoy it. And I think 00:13:23.629 --> 00:13:27.309 with this new album, The Brutal Divine on Frontiers, 00:13:27.389 --> 00:13:32.110 we're showing people that we're still creating. 00:13:32.750 --> 00:13:38.169 you know, important art that is hard rock. And 00:13:38.169 --> 00:13:40.129 with our last frontiers album too, subway to 00:13:40.129 --> 00:13:44.850 the stars, like we're, we're, we're still delivering. 00:13:45.350 --> 00:13:50.549 I feel at the top of our game. Yeah. The interesting 00:13:50.549 --> 00:13:54.190 part of the new album to me, the brutal divine 00:13:54.190 --> 00:13:58.490 is that if you compare it to the previous album, 00:13:59.699 --> 00:14:01.940 It's Spread Eagle, but it's different at the 00:14:01.940 --> 00:14:05.120 same time. And I think that you guys have had 00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:08.139 a knack over all four studio albums, that they're 00:14:08.139 --> 00:14:11.480 four completely different animals, but they're 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:16.299 still Spread Eagle. So I'm really interested 00:14:16.299 --> 00:14:19.759 in you elaborating on that. Like, how do you 00:14:19.759 --> 00:14:23.259 hear them? Because to me, it's just Spread Eagle 00:14:23.259 --> 00:14:25.919 songs, you know? There's Ray, there's me, there's 00:14:25.919 --> 00:14:28.019 Rick, there's Jami, you know, before it was... 00:14:28.379 --> 00:14:31.799 you know, Tommy and Paul, but how do you, how 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:36.440 do you hear them? Like what's. I think, especially 00:14:36.440 --> 00:14:40.100 with the last two albums, I think that there's 00:14:40.100 --> 00:14:43.820 a different type of attitude or aggression to 00:14:43.820 --> 00:14:46.700 this album that maybe wasn't on subway to the 00:14:46.700 --> 00:14:52.200 stars. I think that Ray's voice is maybe at a 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:55.429 different level. I think what separated. spread 00:14:55.429 --> 00:14:57.429 Eagle from a lot of the bands back in the early 00:14:57.429 --> 00:15:01.490 nineties was his aggressiveness and his voice. 00:15:02.610 --> 00:15:06.850 And I think maybe in subway to stars, there was 00:15:06.850 --> 00:15:09.529 a little less of that. And it seems with this 00:15:09.529 --> 00:15:11.970 album, there's a little more of that. Like it's 00:15:11.970 --> 00:15:16.049 a little bit more towards the first two albums. 00:15:18.809 --> 00:15:22.230 It also seems that this album is a little bit 00:15:22.230 --> 00:15:25.970 more. I don't know if intricate is the right 00:15:25.970 --> 00:15:29.490 way of expressing it. Like the overall compositions 00:15:29.490 --> 00:15:32.090 of all the songs are maybe a little bit more 00:15:32.090 --> 00:15:34.830 complete. And like I said, more aggressive. But 00:15:34.830 --> 00:15:39.389 at the same time, it's not that Subway to the 00:15:39.389 --> 00:15:43.610 Stars was bad or that it was lesser in any way. 00:15:43.769 --> 00:15:47.149 It's just different. This seems like it's like 00:15:47.149 --> 00:15:49.590 that hungry edge that the band had initially 00:15:49.590 --> 00:15:53.210 is back. more so than on the previous album that's 00:15:53.210 --> 00:15:56.009 how i interpret it no that's that's really interesting 00:15:56.009 --> 00:16:02.470 and and uh i appreciate you saying that um so 00:16:02.470 --> 00:16:08.450 my feelings are uh yeah the new album we've done 00:16:08.450 --> 00:16:14.230 hundreds of shows since the the new albums the 00:16:14.230 --> 00:16:16.509 brutal divine we've done hundreds of shows since 00:16:16.509 --> 00:16:19.809 the last album subway to the stars so i think 00:16:19.809 --> 00:16:25.620 that is always going to creep into, you know, 00:16:25.620 --> 00:16:30.659 how you record, how you write. And that's a good 00:16:30.659 --> 00:16:38.059 thing, I feel. We love all our albums, and I'll 00:16:38.059 --> 00:16:40.799 get into that in a minute. But what we always 00:16:40.799 --> 00:16:45.539 hear really, really often, really often, that 00:16:45.539 --> 00:16:48.879 shows is, you know, we love this album. We're 00:16:48.879 --> 00:16:51.500 waiting for you to make an album like with the 00:16:51.500 --> 00:16:56.639 energy of the first one. And I'm talking, you 00:16:56.639 --> 00:17:04.519 know, 20 years of hearing that. And you never 00:17:04.519 --> 00:17:07.980 can really, you know, you grow as a human being. 00:17:08.039 --> 00:17:11.359 You can never pretend you're 19, 20 years old 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:15.599 when you're not. Right. That would be ingenuine. 00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:19.940 But it's always stuck in our minds when people, 00:17:20.019 --> 00:17:23.380 you know, when that many people come up to you 00:17:23.380 --> 00:17:27.220 and say that, it sticks in your mind. So, and, 00:17:27.299 --> 00:17:30.059 you know, that first album is still us. You know, 00:17:30.099 --> 00:17:34.460 we love it. We play a ton of songs live in our 00:17:34.460 --> 00:17:37.519 live set off the first album. We play them off 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:41.380 all four albums. But obviously there's some tracks 00:17:41.380 --> 00:17:43.460 that you can't leave out from the first album, 00:17:43.500 --> 00:17:45.119 you know, a whole bunch of them from our live 00:17:45.119 --> 00:17:48.200 show. So we're very still connected to those 00:17:48.200 --> 00:17:53.140 people we were, but we've grown. But in the writing 00:17:53.140 --> 00:17:55.680 of this new album, The Brutal Divine, yes, there 00:17:55.680 --> 00:18:00.119 was a conscious thought of, you know, that's 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:02.859 what our fans want. We love our fans and we love 00:18:02.859 --> 00:18:06.799 that album. Why not try to do that in a natural 00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:09.359 way to bring that back a little more? Having 00:18:09.359 --> 00:18:16.200 said that, I love Subway to the Stars. Fucking 00:18:16.200 --> 00:18:19.660 love that album. A few songs popped up the other 00:18:19.660 --> 00:18:23.579 day on my Spotify and I was just so it made me 00:18:23.579 --> 00:18:27.579 so happy to hear that music. But yes, you're 00:18:27.579 --> 00:18:31.259 right. Like Ray, you know, we weren't on the 00:18:31.259 --> 00:18:34.240 road constantly at that point. Ray was not screaming 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:40.900 as much on that album consciously. And and now 00:18:40.900 --> 00:18:43.000 with all the shows, you know, there's there's 00:18:43.000 --> 00:18:45.789 elements that have come back to his voice. that 00:18:45.789 --> 00:18:49.289 he wasn't uh i mean ray would be better to explain 00:18:49.289 --> 00:18:53.049 this stuff but but in my opinion uh there's elements 00:18:53.049 --> 00:18:56.809 and ranges to his voice that he hadn't been maybe 00:18:56.809 --> 00:18:59.710 flexing as much on that album and that's fine 00:18:59.710 --> 00:19:02.390 because i stand by that album 100 so where it 00:19:02.390 --> 00:19:08.390 starts but yes the new album has a punkier more 00:19:08.390 --> 00:19:13.890 metallic edge and attitude and cut to it and 00:19:13.890 --> 00:19:19.309 we love that And we feel our fans will probably 00:19:19.309 --> 00:19:23.049 it'll probably be an album our fans want a little 00:19:23.049 --> 00:19:26.029 more from us. And we're fine with that. We're 00:19:26.029 --> 00:19:30.950 fine with that. We stand by all of them. So, 00:19:31.049 --> 00:19:36.269 yeah. So here we are. And it's a punky, metallic 00:19:36.269 --> 00:19:42.210 album. And we like that. The fact, you know, 00:19:42.250 --> 00:19:50.119 your opinions are. very important and true because 00:19:50.119 --> 00:19:52.880 they're your opinions and you're a listener other 00:19:52.880 --> 00:19:56.099 than an interviewer. You're a listener, you're 00:19:56.099 --> 00:20:00.680 a fan. Thank you for that. And a friend. So, 00:20:00.799 --> 00:20:06.960 so, you know, it's interesting to hear what people, 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:11.660 what people think, but this album is, is a monster 00:20:11.660 --> 00:20:16.170 in our opinion. and we can't wait for people 00:20:16.170 --> 00:20:20.869 to hear it. It turned out really good. You said 00:20:20.869 --> 00:20:24.450 you thought it was more, the arrangements were 00:20:24.450 --> 00:20:29.029 more intricate for maybe the songwriting. I'm 00:20:29.029 --> 00:20:31.490 not sure I hear that, and I'm not saying you're 00:20:31.490 --> 00:20:36.190 wrong. To you, that's totally correct. To me, 00:20:36.309 --> 00:20:41.109 I don't hear that so much. We kind of do what 00:20:41.109 --> 00:20:47.720 we do. We like that. Like, you know, if you took 00:20:47.720 --> 00:20:49.859 our last album, you put more screaming on it 00:20:49.859 --> 00:20:52.839 and you made the guitars a little more raw sounding, 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:58.339 I feel, and the production wasn't quite as polished, 00:20:58.539 --> 00:21:01.460 I feel it would be a very similar album to the 00:21:01.460 --> 00:21:06.500 group of Divine. But who knows? They are what 00:21:06.500 --> 00:21:08.839 they are, and they're different for reasons. 00:21:09.779 --> 00:21:13.430 Right. And you produced both albums, so obviously 00:21:13.430 --> 00:21:19.130 you know what work you did on the first album 00:21:19.130 --> 00:21:21.730 as opposed to what you did on the second album 00:21:21.730 --> 00:21:24.730 here. So you're bringing up all these things 00:21:24.730 --> 00:21:28.329 that you consciously did as a band. As a producer, 00:21:28.650 --> 00:21:33.029 did you do the same thing? Did you feel, you 00:21:33.029 --> 00:21:35.190 know what, maybe Subway to the Stars was a little 00:21:35.190 --> 00:21:38.150 too polished, let me try to go in this direction 00:21:38.150 --> 00:21:42.550 with the sound on this album instead? Absolutely. 00:21:42.550 --> 00:21:48.269 But the creation of the album all came from the 00:21:48.269 --> 00:21:51.789 same place as Subway to the Stars. Divine and 00:21:51.789 --> 00:21:55.150 Subway to the Stars. They both came from very 00:21:55.150 --> 00:21:59.670 similar places. However, yes, the things that 00:21:59.670 --> 00:22:04.930 I just mentioned, you know, Ray is getting his 00:22:04.930 --> 00:22:10.920 edge back. He made a conscious. effort to to 00:22:10.920 --> 00:22:13.079 sing in a different way on subway to the stars 00:22:13.079 --> 00:22:16.880 which i love and i respect that um but the vocal 00:22:16.880 --> 00:22:20.059 approach was slightly different definitely more 00:22:20.059 --> 00:22:25.079 aggressive the guitar approach was the recording 00:22:25.079 --> 00:22:29.839 of the guitars we uh we didn't really have a 00:22:29.839 --> 00:22:32.740 guitar or amp when we did subway to the stars 00:22:32.740 --> 00:22:34.619 we were using we were borrowing things we're 00:22:34.619 --> 00:22:38.559 using things in the studio of course Our guitar 00:22:38.559 --> 00:22:42.019 player at the time, Ziv Shalev, had guitars and 00:22:42.019 --> 00:22:46.099 amps, but they weren't the right, and they were 00:22:46.099 --> 00:22:49.359 great sounding, but they weren't really what 00:22:49.359 --> 00:22:52.559 we were looking for for Spread Eagle. So we relied 00:22:52.559 --> 00:22:56.579 on borrowing and what was in the studio. So having 00:22:56.579 --> 00:23:00.339 gone through that process for this album, we 00:23:00.339 --> 00:23:02.539 were like, we're not going to make the same, 00:23:02.700 --> 00:23:04.619 I don't know if you call them mistakes, but we're 00:23:04.619 --> 00:23:08.940 not going to go down the same path. So, um, we 00:23:08.940 --> 00:23:14.240 bought some vintage Gibsons. Um, we got a killer 00:23:14.240 --> 00:23:18.940 sounding Marshall, um, vintage Marshall, uh, 00:23:19.039 --> 00:23:23.200 Gibsons were vintage. And, um, and we went in 00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:27.019 more prepared with how do we get that sound that 00:23:27.019 --> 00:23:30.059 we want? Not like, right. Let's just go in and 00:23:30.059 --> 00:23:32.440 get the best sound we can. Like that was, that 00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:37.119 was our approach. Like for. for guitars specifically 00:23:37.119 --> 00:23:39.900 let's go in and get the best sound we can but 00:23:39.900 --> 00:23:44.279 now on the brutal divine we went in saying let's 00:23:44.279 --> 00:23:46.720 get that sound that we want that that spread 00:23:46.720 --> 00:23:51.240 eagle sound so that was different so so a little 00:23:51.240 --> 00:23:53.799 different approach in the singing different definitely 00:23:53.799 --> 00:23:57.740 a major different approach in the guitars and 00:23:57.740 --> 00:24:00.079 then yes the mix i i didn't want it to be as 00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:03.519 polished it's it's not like a modern we're not 00:24:03.519 --> 00:24:06.500 a modern rock band so Subway to the Stars was 00:24:06.500 --> 00:24:12.339 not like super modern sounding or mastered. But 00:24:12.339 --> 00:24:17.759 we did want it to be less dial that down a little 00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:20.240 more, less polished. So those three elements, 00:24:20.420 --> 00:24:23.099 I mean, the songwriting is the same approach. 00:24:23.359 --> 00:24:25.880 The mastering is still Howie Weinberg, the legend. 00:24:27.819 --> 00:24:31.640 So, but yes, those three elements made a big 00:24:31.640 --> 00:24:36.180 difference. And I think. Again, getting back 00:24:36.180 --> 00:24:38.960 to what our fans want, it's not like we've changed. 00:24:39.380 --> 00:24:42.579 We're still up there playing Broken City and 00:24:42.579 --> 00:24:45.319 Scratch Like a Cat and really living it. That 00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:48.599 moment, we're really still connected to those 00:24:48.599 --> 00:24:54.059 people who recorded that song and wrote those 00:24:54.059 --> 00:25:01.980 songs. But these three changes, I think, will... 00:25:02.720 --> 00:25:09.980 make it more what our fans want to hear. Okay. 00:25:10.059 --> 00:25:14.859 Makes sense. For you, when you decided to produce 00:25:14.859 --> 00:25:19.619 the previous album, no one else wanted to do 00:25:19.619 --> 00:25:23.880 it. Like every, everything else I'm doing, I'm 00:25:23.880 --> 00:25:28.650 stuck with it. Well, what was the most challenging 00:25:28.650 --> 00:25:33.430 part of stepping into that producer's role? It's 00:25:33.430 --> 00:25:39.569 the same on both albums. You know, and again, 00:25:39.789 --> 00:25:45.230 this goes with our previous conversation. I tried 00:25:45.230 --> 00:25:48.690 to make it sound like Spread Eagle as much as 00:25:48.690 --> 00:25:52.089 possible. And you will feel on certain albums 00:25:52.089 --> 00:25:56.410 I got closer to that than others. That's my number 00:25:56.410 --> 00:26:01.529 one. My number one role is driving the bus to 00:26:01.529 --> 00:26:06.009 what fans would love and appreciate and know 00:26:06.009 --> 00:26:13.789 is honest from us. Number two is everyone is 00:26:13.789 --> 00:26:16.890 so creative. We've all been playing music for, 00:26:16.910 --> 00:26:22.109 you know, at least 36 years, if not longer. We 00:26:22.109 --> 00:26:27.410 were very. We're proficient in different areas 00:26:27.410 --> 00:26:32.710 of music and we explore and love many types of 00:26:32.710 --> 00:26:43.549 music. So it's common for ideas to sound like 00:26:43.549 --> 00:26:46.029 Spread Eagle or not sound like Spread Eagle with 00:26:46.029 --> 00:26:50.390 four individuals like us who have so many, who 00:26:50.390 --> 00:26:54.130 have a lifetime of experience. You know, when 00:26:54.130 --> 00:26:57.930 we made our debut album, we weren't a one -dimensional, 00:26:58.069 --> 00:27:00.549 we weren't one -dimensional musicians, but we 00:27:00.549 --> 00:27:05.509 didn't have a huge lifetime palette to draw from. 00:27:05.710 --> 00:27:09.869 And now we do. But I still feel it's my responsibility 00:27:09.869 --> 00:27:14.549 to Spread Eagle fans to deliver the albums that 00:27:14.549 --> 00:27:21.529 they want. So, again, you know, You would feel, 00:27:21.609 --> 00:27:23.930 and maybe some other people would feel that I 00:27:23.930 --> 00:27:26.369 might have gotten closer on this album than the 00:27:26.369 --> 00:27:30.089 last, but they're all honest spread Eagle albums 00:27:30.089 --> 00:27:35.869 that we love and we stand behind. Okay. And it's 00:27:35.869 --> 00:27:39.569 interesting to me again. I've interviewed a lot 00:27:39.569 --> 00:27:42.089 of bands recently. I mentioned the whole Northeast 00:27:42.089 --> 00:27:44.049 thing before, but I've interviewed a lot of bands 00:27:44.049 --> 00:27:46.950 who have self -produced albums. And recently 00:27:46.950 --> 00:27:50.319 I think. there are more bands that get it right 00:27:50.319 --> 00:27:57.220 than in the past where you have members of bands 00:27:57.220 --> 00:28:01.660 that, that produce something and you listen to 00:28:01.660 --> 00:28:04.539 the album and you feel like there should have 00:28:04.539 --> 00:28:07.259 been somebody there to say, no, that doesn't 00:28:07.259 --> 00:28:11.319 work or that doesn't sound good. You know, where 00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:15.119 with this, I think everything you're saying, 00:28:15.710 --> 00:28:20.049 rings true. I think that it's still within, you 00:28:20.049 --> 00:28:22.950 know, the band sound, the songs I think will 00:28:22.950 --> 00:28:25.509 make a lot of people happy. I don't think there's 00:28:25.509 --> 00:28:28.049 anything wacky or out there or something that 00:28:28.049 --> 00:28:30.829 sounds really bad to say, shit, what were they 00:28:30.829 --> 00:28:34.509 thinking on this one? You know? So I think that's 00:28:34.509 --> 00:28:38.230 a credit to knowing, you know, also, I don't 00:28:38.230 --> 00:28:43.559 want to say your limitations, but knowing that 00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:45.779 you just can't go out there and say, Hey, you 00:28:45.779 --> 00:28:47.880 know what? We're going to try this new effect 00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:50.380 pedal on this song and it's going to be this, 00:28:50.380 --> 00:28:55.039 or it's going to be that. And as time goes by, 00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:56.940 it just doesn't feel right. It doesn't sound 00:28:56.940 --> 00:29:01.339 right. Where I think this album and all the others, 00:29:01.380 --> 00:29:02.940 I don't want to exclude any of the other ones. 00:29:02.980 --> 00:29:06.039 I think that to me, at least as a listener, it's 00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:10.869 stuff that I can still listen to. And yeah. I'll 00:29:10.869 --> 00:29:13.750 think, oh, wow, this was from the 90s, or this 00:29:13.750 --> 00:29:15.910 was that. But really, if you listen to it and 00:29:15.910 --> 00:29:19.890 you don't think about it, it isn't a definitive 00:29:19.890 --> 00:29:23.609 sound of the 90s. It isn't a definitive sound 00:29:23.609 --> 00:29:27.609 of, you know, 2026. It sounds like you guys, 00:29:27.690 --> 00:29:32.029 as opposed to sounding like a specific era. Well, 00:29:32.029 --> 00:29:34.509 thank you. Thank you. I mean, I like to have, 00:29:34.690 --> 00:29:41.289 I like when there's maybe a... one song that's 00:29:41.289 --> 00:29:44.170 kind of odd i don't know if we i don't know if 00:29:44.170 --> 00:29:45.730 we've done that i'm just what i'm just saying 00:29:45.730 --> 00:29:49.529 in general i like when a band throws a curveball 00:29:49.529 --> 00:29:54.230 on an album um as long as it's you know not ridiculous 00:29:54.230 --> 00:30:00.269 for that band you know um but i like the rest 00:30:00.269 --> 00:30:03.670 of the album just to be right what that band's 00:30:03.670 --> 00:30:08.829 about you know right um and um You said something, 00:30:08.869 --> 00:30:10.930 I forgot my train of thought, but anyway, it'll 00:30:10.930 --> 00:30:17.670 come to me. But thank you. So, yeah, I think 00:30:17.670 --> 00:30:23.930 we're on track again. I think we are. What does 00:30:23.930 --> 00:30:27.769 all your years of working outside of Spread Eagle 00:30:27.769 --> 00:30:32.349 helped to bring to the band? I think it's the 00:30:32.349 --> 00:30:38.900 thousands of shows, you know, I think. I think 00:30:38.900 --> 00:30:41.720 when you're on a stage connecting with an audience, 00:30:41.980 --> 00:30:52.400 you always remember the connection. And when 00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:55.420 you're songwriting or whatever, it's about that. 00:30:56.119 --> 00:31:03.099 So I try to never lose sight of that. And I made 00:31:03.099 --> 00:31:06.180 some connections over the years that have helped 00:31:06.180 --> 00:31:12.069 a little bit. Just the knowledge of navigating 00:31:12.069 --> 00:31:17.109 the touring industry, because that was my livelihood 00:31:17.109 --> 00:31:27.049 for 17 years. You know, in between. So, you know, 00:31:27.049 --> 00:31:30.390 because that's a hard industry. And if you didn't 00:31:30.390 --> 00:31:33.349 have a big hit, which we didn't, we had a medium 00:31:33.349 --> 00:31:36.269 hit. If you didn't have a big hit, it's hard 00:31:36.269 --> 00:31:39.009 to, it's hard to be out there. And we do, you 00:31:39.009 --> 00:31:43.750 know, we currently have, I think 14, 13 or 14 00:31:43.750 --> 00:31:47.849 countries we're booked in right now for this, 00:31:47.950 --> 00:31:54.349 this little divine tour. So, you know, it's, 00:31:54.349 --> 00:31:56.210 it's, it's a lot of things added up. I think, 00:31:56.250 --> 00:32:00.910 you know, you can't, you can't not learn, you 00:32:00.910 --> 00:32:03.359 know, unless you're. an alcoholic or on drugs 00:32:03.359 --> 00:32:06.180 you cannot learn from being on the road and being 00:32:06.180 --> 00:32:08.680 in the in the touring industry and the truth 00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:12.619 is we're barely in the recording industry anymore 00:32:12.619 --> 00:32:15.779 any of us you know right because you release 00:32:15.779 --> 00:32:19.680 a record it's out and then it's done and it sells 00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:22.059 a few thousand copies or however many it sells 00:32:22.059 --> 00:32:23.960 you know if you're not metallica or you know 00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:28.599 or or Megadeth, you know, it sells what it sells 00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:30.539 and then you're back out on the road. And so 00:32:30.539 --> 00:32:32.839 that's the industry we're in. And you're selling 00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:35.559 T -shirts. It's that industry also. Right. Well, 00:32:35.619 --> 00:32:39.099 I've learned about merch, you know. And I'm not 00:32:39.099 --> 00:32:43.160 disparaging the recording industry. It's just 00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:45.400 it is what it is. I don't make rules. I'm just 00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:51.079 describing them. So we've lost most of the recording 00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:56.650 industry. So now we're still. holding on to the 00:32:56.650 --> 00:33:03.029 touring and march industries. Okay. And out of 00:33:03.029 --> 00:33:08.049 the bands that you've stepped into, um, which 00:33:08.049 --> 00:33:11.529 of those bands, if you were to dial the clock 00:33:11.529 --> 00:33:16.170 back and, um, and think of it as a kid, which, 00:33:16.190 --> 00:33:18.730 which band would you have never thought of being 00:33:18.730 --> 00:33:21.210 able to have played with? That's obvious UFO 00:33:21.210 --> 00:33:24.680 because Of all the bands I played in, the only 00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:27.759 one I saw when I was a kid was UFO. So I was 00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:30.819 that kid standing on my chair, screaming, fist 00:33:30.819 --> 00:33:35.619 in the air. So it's the only one that applies 00:33:35.619 --> 00:33:40.299 to your question. I mean, it would have been 00:33:40.299 --> 00:33:44.359 crazy if my friend, my friend Mick, who used 00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:46.599 to drive me to all the concerts when I was a 00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:49.920 kid. And we went to high school together. And 00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:52.140 it would have been insane if he said, someday 00:33:52.140 --> 00:33:58.099 we'll play in this band. I would have never believed 00:33:58.099 --> 00:34:03.640 that. And I was there for 16 years with them. 00:34:03.700 --> 00:34:06.940 So we played a lot of shows. And that's the thing 00:34:06.940 --> 00:34:09.539 about them. They were in their 60s and 70s when 00:34:09.539 --> 00:34:17.010 I was in the band. And we grinded it. We were 00:34:17.010 --> 00:34:20.449 on the road a lot. Phil Mogg, his voice still 00:34:20.449 --> 00:34:23.929 to this day is incredible. Some people, you know, 00:34:23.929 --> 00:34:26.989 can still sing, you know, Paul Rogers, you know, 00:34:26.989 --> 00:34:31.010 and some people can't and that's okay. But Phil 00:34:31.010 --> 00:34:34.150 Mogg still has his voice. He really has his full 00:34:34.150 --> 00:34:38.349 voice still. So it was unbelievable to be up 00:34:38.349 --> 00:34:41.590 there playing songs like Love to Love with him. 00:34:42.150 --> 00:34:46.289 So that would be the band. Okay. How much of 00:34:46.289 --> 00:34:49.610 an influence was Pete Way for you as a bassist? 00:34:50.530 --> 00:34:54.329 Huge. Well, I haven't studied many bassists other 00:34:54.329 --> 00:34:57.789 than Duff McKagan. Okay. And that was long after 00:34:57.789 --> 00:35:00.349 I was playing bass. I learned all of Duff McKagan's 00:35:00.349 --> 00:35:02.789 bass lines. I've forgotten them since, but they're 00:35:02.789 --> 00:35:06.570 fantastic, especially on the first album where 00:35:06.570 --> 00:35:14.789 he played a lot more. But I learned Pete Way's. 00:35:15.179 --> 00:35:18.199 bass lines note for note i changed them just 00:35:18.199 --> 00:35:22.380 slightly um because that's what the songs needed 00:35:22.380 --> 00:35:28.960 and uh but it's yeah huge influence on me but 00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:36.940 still is cool um what are the plans then you 00:35:36.940 --> 00:35:39.500 just said that you've got You guys are booked 00:35:39.500 --> 00:35:42.800 in 14 different countries. The album officially 00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:45.280 comes out on June 12th. We're recording this 00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:49.519 a month ahead of time. So by the time this comes 00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:53.679 out, the pre -order may still be out there or 00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:59.320 the full album may be out at the time. What are 00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:04.510 your plans after the album drops? Well. We have 00:36:04.510 --> 00:36:06.550 a bunch of shows. We've got shows in the Northeast. 00:36:06.690 --> 00:36:08.630 I just pulled them up. I'm looking at them now. 00:36:08.710 --> 00:36:13.230 We have shows in the Northeast. And then we go 00:36:13.230 --> 00:36:19.170 to Slovakia, Austria, Italy, France, Switzerland, 00:36:19.389 --> 00:36:25.250 Germany, Poland, Finland, Sweden, England, Scotland, 00:36:25.349 --> 00:36:31.650 and Wales. So our plans are to stay on the road. 00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:35.599 Break this album on the road. Keep pushing it. 00:36:35.659 --> 00:36:42.219 Keep pushing it. And see all you beautiful people 00:36:42.219 --> 00:36:45.159 as often as possible out there. That's our plan. 00:36:45.340 --> 00:36:51.480 And just rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat. Cool. 00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:57.179 And as far as the album itself. Is it going to 00:36:57.179 --> 00:37:00.420 be released? What physical formats are you guys 00:37:00.420 --> 00:37:02.840 releasing? Is it going to be, are there going 00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:07.719 to be any? Okay. Vinyl, CD. What are the other 00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:12.119 ones? I mean, it's on all the Apple and Spotify 00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:18.500 and YouTube. Are there any I'm not knowing of? 00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:22.599 There are some bands that are releasing $30 cassettes. 00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:27.340 So is that? I would assume that's just like a 00:37:27.340 --> 00:37:31.780 kitsch kind of like fan thing, but I guess there's 00:37:31.780 --> 00:37:34.059 some cars that still have cassette players. I 00:37:34.059 --> 00:37:36.760 mean, obviously old cars or are they all dead 00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:39.719 by now? I don't know if it's a car thing or if 00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:43.119 it's more of a collector thing where since the 00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:46.139 price of vinyl has been going up, you know, I 00:37:46.139 --> 00:37:49.599 don't know if that's labels saying, hey, let's 00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:52.079 try this and see if this sticks as well. There's 00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:57.210 the odd band that. has released VHS even for, 00:37:57.329 --> 00:38:01.909 for some releases. Wow. That's funny. Well, no, 00:38:02.090 --> 00:38:05.989 we're not, we're not doing the cassette on this 00:38:05.989 --> 00:38:08.510 one, but maybe next one. Well, I know the next 00:38:08.510 --> 00:38:12.510 album we plan to release on eight track tape. 00:38:12.610 --> 00:38:15.349 There you go. Eight track. And, and after that, 00:38:15.369 --> 00:38:17.590 it'd be real to real. We keep going backwards. 00:38:20.809 --> 00:38:23.210 I think the label told me they're going to draw 00:38:23.210 --> 00:38:24.690 the line at reel -to -reel. They're not going 00:38:24.690 --> 00:38:28.289 to do that. Okay. All right. They got to set 00:38:28.289 --> 00:38:31.369 their boundaries somewhere. Yeah, yeah. At least 00:38:31.369 --> 00:38:33.789 we got the 8 -track out of them. There you go. 00:38:34.050 --> 00:38:38.210 We had to really lobby for it, though. Where 00:38:38.210 --> 00:38:40.329 should people go if they want to pick up the 00:38:40.329 --> 00:38:43.309 album? Is there a specific place that they can 00:38:43.309 --> 00:38:45.570 purchase it and ensure that the most amount of 00:38:45.570 --> 00:38:49.900 money gets back into the band's pockets? I'd 00:38:49.900 --> 00:38:53.659 say Frontiers, just Google Frontiers Music or 00:38:53.659 --> 00:38:59.960 Frontiers site. We'll have some at shows. We'll 00:38:59.960 --> 00:39:04.000 be selling some at shows. But the main way to 00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:06.480 get it is through Frontiers if you're not coming 00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:10.280 to the show. Okay, cool. And if people want to 00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:12.219 keep up with the band, where's the best place 00:39:12.219 --> 00:39:16.860 for them to do that? Well... If you Google Spread 00:39:16.860 --> 00:39:19.159 Eagle, you might not find the band. You might 00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:21.860 find some interesting stuff, but not the band. 00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:26.599 So I would say, you know, our tag on most platforms 00:39:26.599 --> 00:39:31.119 is Spread Eagle NYC or Spread Eagle Band. So 00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:34.460 we're everywhere. We're easy to find. We have 00:39:34.460 --> 00:39:36.880 a new video out for the song Flat Earth Vultures, 00:39:36.900 --> 00:39:40.900 and it's hilarious, and it's really well done. 00:39:41.519 --> 00:39:44.519 By the time this interview comes out, we'll have 00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:48.519 another video for the song Amp Farm, which is 00:39:48.519 --> 00:39:52.380 fantastic, but very different from Flat Earth 00:39:52.380 --> 00:39:55.579 Vultures. All our videos will be different from 00:39:55.579 --> 00:39:59.300 each other. Getting back to our conversation, 00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:01.659 we want the album to be cohesive and powerful 00:40:01.659 --> 00:40:04.599 and what our fans want, but we want our videos 00:40:04.599 --> 00:40:07.659 to be very dynamic and different consciously. 00:40:07.940 --> 00:40:09.579 So they're all going to be very different from 00:40:09.579 --> 00:40:17.139 each other. So, yeah. Yeah, and that's a cool 00:40:17.139 --> 00:40:20.320 thing that I forgot to point out. The videos, 00:40:20.340 --> 00:40:23.159 with a lot of bands that are just putting out 00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:27.619 just generic lyric videos or AI videos, you guys 00:40:27.619 --> 00:40:31.059 are actually putting out cool videos that are 00:40:31.059 --> 00:40:35.360 actually probably as good as the songs that are 00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:38.889 behind them. That's saying a lot. And I think 00:40:38.889 --> 00:40:41.170 that will be the case for the song Ant Farm also. 00:40:42.230 --> 00:40:44.510 That is the case for the song Ant Farm also, 00:40:44.670 --> 00:40:50.449 the video Ant Farm. Yeah, we're like, you know, 00:40:50.449 --> 00:40:54.530 we're artists, you know, as cheesy or, you know, 00:40:54.530 --> 00:40:57.489 self -serving as that may sound. It's the truth. 00:40:57.550 --> 00:41:00.849 We're artists. We believe hard rock is a very 00:41:00.849 --> 00:41:04.829 important art form. And that's why we don't use 00:41:04.829 --> 00:41:08.329 backing tracks. We don't use... ai to write our 00:41:08.329 --> 00:41:11.449 songs because we're we're trying to better ourselves 00:41:11.449 --> 00:41:16.610 at this art that we're lucky that we've been 00:41:16.610 --> 00:41:19.550 able to make for 36 years that people care enough 00:41:19.550 --> 00:41:22.829 that we can do this so the last thing we want 00:41:22.829 --> 00:41:25.030 to do is hand this over to a computer program 00:41:25.030 --> 00:41:28.269 to do it for us like that's that's that would 00:41:28.269 --> 00:41:32.090 be sacrilege sacrilege to what we what our vision 00:41:32.090 --> 00:41:35.519 you know right um So we're out there playing 00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:38.880 live 100%, no backing tracks. Not many bands 00:41:38.880 --> 00:41:41.960 are doing that these days. And we're writing 00:41:41.960 --> 00:41:46.300 songs the way we have since people have since 00:41:46.300 --> 00:41:50.400 the 50s, 1950s, you know, just in a room writing 00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:56.380 riffs and singing along to them. And so we hope 00:41:56.380 --> 00:41:58.780 that people see that we're the real deal, you 00:41:58.780 --> 00:42:02.320 know, but even if people don't see it, it's important 00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:17.590 to us. You can subscribe to the show on all your 00:42:17.590 --> 00:42:20.690 favorite podcast platforms like Apple Podcasts, 00:42:20.690 --> 00:42:24.389 Spotify, Google Podcasts, Amazon, and more. Go 00:42:24.389 --> 00:42:26.809 to signalsfrommars .com for more information. 00:42:27.090 --> 00:42:28.309 This concludes our show.