WEBVTT 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:04.219 Welcome, one and all, to episode 450 of Signals 00:00:04.219 --> 00:00:07.040 from Mars. I'm your host, Victor, and for this 00:00:07.040 --> 00:00:11.880 episode, I bring you an interview with John Karabi. 00:00:12.580 --> 00:00:15.179 This is the first time that I've had Karabi on 00:00:15.179 --> 00:00:17.339 the show. I know that a lot of people out there 00:00:17.339 --> 00:00:19.859 are interviewing him for like the millionth time. 00:00:20.460 --> 00:00:23.679 I'm just glad I got to interview him once. He's 00:00:23.679 --> 00:00:26.000 formed a huge part of the soundtrack of my life, 00:00:26.059 --> 00:00:58.960 and the interview is next. I'm ready. Quick reminder 00:00:58.960 --> 00:01:01.380 that in addition to hosting Signals from Mars, 00:01:01.619 --> 00:01:04.060 I've also worked behind the scenes helping other 00:01:04.060 --> 00:01:07.200 podcasters. 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I've listened 00:05:17.730 --> 00:05:19.990 to it so much since it came out. I've been a 00:05:19.990 --> 00:05:24.250 proponent of that album since day one. So many 00:05:24.250 --> 00:05:26.149 other things that John has done throughout the 00:05:26.149 --> 00:05:30.230 years. This new solo album is really cool. Um, 00:05:30.550 --> 00:05:34.189 I think it's going to surprise people with how 00:05:34.189 --> 00:05:36.730 varied it is throughout, but it's strong throughout. 00:05:37.089 --> 00:05:40.990 Um, the album will be coming out in April. There 00:05:40.990 --> 00:05:44.089 are some singles that have been released. Check 00:05:44.089 --> 00:05:46.730 them out, listen to them on social media and 00:05:46.730 --> 00:05:49.250 pre -order the album. It's just that simple folks. 00:05:49.310 --> 00:05:51.509 If you enjoy it, put money in their pockets. 00:05:52.129 --> 00:06:14.129 Let's get on with the episode. Welcome everyone 00:06:14.129 --> 00:06:17.170 to the latest episode of Signals from Mars. I 00:06:17.170 --> 00:06:21.389 am joined by, as he's anointed himself, Rock 00:06:21.389 --> 00:06:26.870 God. It asked for a title. I'm like, I don't 00:06:26.870 --> 00:06:28.689 even know what to put in there. I could have 00:06:28.689 --> 00:06:31.529 went with Night Manager 7 -Eleven, but whatever. 00:06:32.790 --> 00:06:34.790 Either one would have worked. I'm sure nobody 00:06:34.790 --> 00:06:40.569 would have been mad. So, growing up in... Northern 00:06:40.569 --> 00:06:44.750 New Jersey, I've always felt that there's a certain 00:06:44.750 --> 00:06:51.209 attitude, swagger, work ethic from artists that 00:06:51.209 --> 00:06:54.209 come from Philly, New York, Boston. It seems 00:06:54.209 --> 00:06:57.189 like the Northeast just has something to it. 00:06:58.629 --> 00:07:02.670 Being someone that's from Philly, do you feel 00:07:02.670 --> 00:07:05.910 that that's appropriate or do you notice a difference 00:07:05.910 --> 00:07:11.250 between the three? No, I would say that's appropriate. 00:07:11.649 --> 00:07:15.189 You know, again, I think more of it has to do 00:07:15.189 --> 00:07:20.870 with, you know, parental upbringing. You know, 00:07:20.870 --> 00:07:24.410 my dad was just like a workaholic. Even when 00:07:24.410 --> 00:07:28.370 he retired late in life, I think he was home 00:07:28.370 --> 00:07:33.250 maybe a month. And he goes, I can't do this anymore. 00:07:33.329 --> 00:07:37.990 So my family used to run like. a couple of different 00:07:37.990 --> 00:07:40.769 unions in the Philadelphia, New Jersey, Delaware 00:07:40.769 --> 00:07:46.509 area. And my dad, I think, he was out of work. 00:07:46.589 --> 00:07:50.050 He retired. They gave him his watch, whatever. 00:07:50.329 --> 00:07:53.970 And he literally went home and watched TV for 00:07:53.970 --> 00:07:56.709 about two and a half, three weeks and went, I'm 00:07:56.709 --> 00:07:59.709 coming back in, but only like three or four days 00:07:59.709 --> 00:08:03.129 a week. He couldn't sit still. So I think that's 00:08:03.129 --> 00:08:06.199 just... But, you know, those three cities, New 00:08:06.199 --> 00:08:09.980 York, you know, yeah, there's Wall Street. But 00:08:09.980 --> 00:08:13.620 I think for the most part, New York, Boston and 00:08:13.620 --> 00:08:17.420 Philly was like it was just kind of a blue collar 00:08:17.420 --> 00:08:22.839 work ethic. You know what I mean? Yeah, I'm smiling 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:28.199 because my old man, exact same thing, and he's 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:35.419 now 82. I think he got to 78. uh and said yeah 00:08:35.419 --> 00:08:37.940 i can't drive three hours every day anymore and 00:08:37.940 --> 00:08:40.580 that's kind of what did him in but same same 00:08:40.580 --> 00:08:43.519 deal he retired and a few days later called up 00:08:43.519 --> 00:08:46.059 and said i gotta work three four days a week 00:08:46.059 --> 00:08:50.200 so yeah it's it's you know and that's you know 00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:55.500 i remember as a kid like you know at one point 00:08:55.500 --> 00:09:00.519 my dad had a regular job in nine to five and 00:09:00.519 --> 00:09:04.360 then he worked like three nights a week from 00:09:04.360 --> 00:09:07.659 like five to whatever and then he had a job on 00:09:07.659 --> 00:09:10.740 the weekend so my dad had like at one point had 00:09:10.740 --> 00:09:14.799 three jobs right that he was you know and you 00:09:14.799 --> 00:09:18.440 know that's what i was raised with and and and 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:22.320 trust me i'm just that type of person like you 00:09:22.320 --> 00:09:26.419 know if you tell me like this year the dead daisies 00:09:26.419 --> 00:09:28.559 are like hey we're taking a year off i'm like 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:33.759 okay I can either literally sit home and watch, 00:09:33.860 --> 00:09:39.899 you know, for the next year, TV, but also give 00:09:39.899 --> 00:09:42.659 myself liver damage and gain an extreme amount 00:09:42.659 --> 00:09:44.679 of weight just sitting around doing nothing. 00:09:45.100 --> 00:09:49.340 Right. Or I can put my time to good use and write 00:09:49.340 --> 00:09:51.559 and record a new record and just go out and tour 00:09:51.559 --> 00:09:55.960 and, you know, keep the torch burning. So I chose 00:09:55.960 --> 00:09:59.220 the latter. Yeah, and that's funny because with 00:09:59.220 --> 00:10:02.679 you telling that story as well, it really, to 00:10:02.679 --> 00:10:05.279 me, seems like you've been able to extrapolate 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:10.100 that to your life. Because although maybe there 00:10:10.100 --> 00:10:12.659 hasn't been a new album every year or something 00:10:12.659 --> 00:10:15.460 like that, when's the last time you've actually 00:10:15.460 --> 00:10:18.279 stopped from touring, playing with other bands, 00:10:18.539 --> 00:10:21.179 guesting, doing this, doing that? You've always 00:10:21.179 --> 00:10:25.789 been busy for the most part. Yeah. And it's like, 00:10:25.850 --> 00:10:29.950 you know, look, and if I can be honest, you know, 00:10:29.950 --> 00:10:34.950 I'm not I'm not this isn't like a newsflash, 00:10:34.970 --> 00:10:38.129 but, you know, obviously I've had some really 00:10:38.129 --> 00:10:41.549 great gigs in the past, you know, but unfortunately, 00:10:41.730 --> 00:10:46.730 due to the circumstances I was dealt, you know, 00:10:46.730 --> 00:10:50.370 I haven't really been a guy that's been able 00:10:50.370 --> 00:10:55.809 to. Kind of rest on my laurels and rest on the 00:10:55.809 --> 00:11:01.049 things that I've done in the past. So, like, 00:11:01.110 --> 00:11:03.809 to a degree, I kind of have to work. You know 00:11:03.809 --> 00:11:07.009 what I mean? Like, I've got, you know, I've gathered 00:11:07.009 --> 00:11:10.490 some toys as I've gotten older. You know, my 00:11:10.490 --> 00:11:14.690 wife and I are blessed. We own our home. You 00:11:14.690 --> 00:11:16.850 know, but there's some, there's things, you know, 00:11:16.889 --> 00:11:19.870 just. health insurance life insurance you know 00:11:19.870 --> 00:11:22.610 i've got a couple motorcycles i have a motor 00:11:22.610 --> 00:11:25.629 home i have a truck you know needs to be paid 00:11:25.629 --> 00:11:30.649 for so it's like you know uh i i i'm not in a 00:11:30.649 --> 00:11:34.850 position you know like uh you know whatever stephen 00:11:34.850 --> 00:11:38.049 tyler nikki sexx or one of those guys that i 00:11:38.049 --> 00:11:40.389 can go you know i'm gonna take a few years off 00:11:40.389 --> 00:11:45.440 and just whatever i i i wasn't able to get myself 00:11:45.440 --> 00:11:48.899 into that position. So part of it, I love doing 00:11:48.899 --> 00:11:52.519 what I do, but part of it too is, you know, I 00:11:52.519 --> 00:11:56.320 have to keep working if I want to pay, you know, 00:11:56.320 --> 00:12:00.980 my phone bill, whatever it is, what it is. Gotcha. 00:12:01.220 --> 00:12:04.299 Yeah. And that's funny too, because I remember 00:12:04.299 --> 00:12:08.980 speaking to John Beauvoir years ago. He was in 00:12:08.980 --> 00:12:11.100 the plasmatics. He co -wrote a bunch of stuff 00:12:11.100 --> 00:12:17.450 with Kiss. He talked to me about what success 00:12:17.450 --> 00:12:20.750 really means. And you're bringing up like Nikki 00:12:20.750 --> 00:12:23.629 Sixx, Steven Tyler, where people think about 00:12:23.629 --> 00:12:27.169 success from a monetary standpoint. But he talked 00:12:27.169 --> 00:12:31.570 to me about being successful, writing stuff for 00:12:31.570 --> 00:12:33.590 other people, producing stuff for other people. 00:12:33.629 --> 00:12:35.309 And he kind of said, you know what, as an artist, 00:12:35.470 --> 00:12:38.850 I'm cool with that. I don't need all these lavish 00:12:38.850 --> 00:12:44.730 things to feel like I'm successful. Well, again, 00:12:44.889 --> 00:12:48.490 success is in the eyes of the beholder. You know 00:12:48.490 --> 00:12:51.169 what I mean? If you want to do a monetary thing, 00:12:51.309 --> 00:12:55.149 you know, am I successful? Probably not. You 00:12:55.149 --> 00:12:58.990 know, but on the flip side, I learned a very 00:12:58.990 --> 00:13:02.129 valuable lesson in Motley Crue. And that was. 00:13:02.919 --> 00:13:05.379 you know when i was in the band everybody wanted 00:13:05.379 --> 00:13:07.659 to be your friend everybody was giving you free 00:13:07.659 --> 00:13:10.299 guitars everybody wanted you to come to the playboy 00:13:10.299 --> 00:13:13.519 mansion you know yada yada yada then vince comes 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:16.500 back and it's like your phone ain't ringing right 00:13:16.500 --> 00:13:20.779 and you start to realize that it's really more 00:13:20.779 --> 00:13:24.860 about counting the blessings that you do have 00:13:24.860 --> 00:13:28.740 and i can sit here right now and tell you like 00:13:28.740 --> 00:13:32.309 this is my This new record, New Day, is probably 00:13:32.309 --> 00:13:36.889 my 19th record. I've had four or five different 00:13:36.889 --> 00:13:40.490 record deals, all this other shit. But I know 00:13:40.490 --> 00:13:43.330 people that are a million times more talented 00:13:43.330 --> 00:13:47.470 than I am on guitar and vocals and as a songwriter. 00:13:47.809 --> 00:13:50.710 But for some reason, their cards didn't line 00:13:50.710 --> 00:13:55.529 up the same as mine. And they've never had a 00:13:55.529 --> 00:13:58.710 record deal. Right. It's like, how do you want 00:13:58.710 --> 00:14:00.929 to look at it? If you look at it monetarily, 00:14:01.169 --> 00:14:05.070 there's only a handful of people that are like 00:14:05.070 --> 00:14:08.090 Nicky and Steven Tyler and Mick Jagger and Robert 00:14:08.090 --> 00:14:14.830 Plant. But there's a huge amount of people. For 00:14:14.830 --> 00:14:17.769 every guy like me, there's probably 100 ,000 00:14:17.769 --> 00:14:22.230 that are way more talented that could, for whatever 00:14:22.230 --> 00:14:25.289 their reasons were, whether it was by choice 00:14:25.289 --> 00:14:29.970 or luck. did not have the same opportunities 00:14:29.970 --> 00:14:34.330 i have right and i had a friend of mine back 00:14:34.330 --> 00:14:37.250 in california this friend of mine named al boyer 00:14:37.250 --> 00:14:42.230 uh i was feeling a little down on my luck uh 00:14:42.230 --> 00:14:45.509 for a minute and al said you know the beauty 00:14:45.509 --> 00:14:51.190 of what you do for a living he goes as long as 00:14:51.190 --> 00:14:54.690 you're being given the opportunity to do a record 00:14:56.190 --> 00:15:02.009 There's always that chance, that one song, all 00:15:02.009 --> 00:15:06.929 you need is one song to connect with the masses 00:15:06.929 --> 00:15:11.610 and it's going to rewrite your entire life. Right. 00:15:12.330 --> 00:15:17.169 So, you know, each record I go into, you know, 00:15:17.169 --> 00:15:20.129 I look at it, I do my best, I work hard, I try 00:15:20.129 --> 00:15:23.330 to do the best lyrics and shit that I can. But 00:15:23.330 --> 00:15:25.669 you just stay positive and you go, you know what? 00:15:25.710 --> 00:15:27.590 This is the one that's going to put me over the 00:15:27.590 --> 00:15:32.049 top. And like he said, you only need one song 00:15:32.049 --> 00:15:38.049 and your life is completely different. So I always 00:15:38.049 --> 00:15:41.710 just kind of looked at that and I always try 00:15:41.710 --> 00:15:44.610 to look at things in the most positive way possible. 00:15:46.250 --> 00:15:50.230 Hence the title of the record. Hence the lyrics 00:15:50.230 --> 00:15:53.529 of the title track. You know what I mean? It's 00:15:53.529 --> 00:15:56.769 just about just getting up, working hard and 00:15:56.769 --> 00:16:00.470 staying positive and moving forward. You know 00:16:00.470 --> 00:16:04.509 what I mean? Yeah. One of the things that stood 00:16:04.509 --> 00:16:08.809 out from New Day right away was how diverse it 00:16:08.809 --> 00:16:11.529 is throughout the album. I mean, yeah, you could 00:16:11.529 --> 00:16:13.870 sit there and say, oh, okay, you know, I get 00:16:13.870 --> 00:16:16.970 this. This really connects with what you've done 00:16:16.970 --> 00:16:21.779 in the past. You haven't tried to, like you said 00:16:21.779 --> 00:16:24.000 before, live off your laurels. You're doing something 00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:26.919 different here. Yeah, there's rock. But there's 00:16:26.919 --> 00:16:29.919 other stuff in there. There's really some soul 00:16:29.919 --> 00:16:32.960 mixed in there. There's some funk mixed in there. 00:16:33.100 --> 00:16:36.139 And then there's like late 60s, like almost Creedence 00:16:36.139 --> 00:16:40.759 type rock going on in one of the tracks, which 00:16:40.759 --> 00:16:44.620 is, I mean, the whole album is that. It's an 00:16:44.620 --> 00:16:46.639 album. It's like a different picture with each 00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:53.070 track. Well, and that to me, you know, I love 00:16:53.070 --> 00:16:59.110 that. I love, you know, even the nerdy, you know, 00:16:59.110 --> 00:17:02.690 even though I'm a musician, you know, the nerdy 00:17:02.690 --> 00:17:06.349 kid in me loves when I read that Led Zeppelin 00:17:06.349 --> 00:17:10.190 said, you know what? We're not putting out any 00:17:10.190 --> 00:17:14.829 singles. You accept the album as an album and 00:17:14.829 --> 00:17:18.700 enjoy the album as an experience. Or, you know, 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:21.960 fuck it, move along. Buy somebody else's record. 00:17:22.200 --> 00:17:26.220 They didn't give a shit. And the one thing that 00:17:26.220 --> 00:17:30.819 I wanted to do is kind of go back to the stuff 00:17:30.819 --> 00:17:35.299 that I grew up listening to. But the other thing 00:17:35.299 --> 00:17:40.279 that really, you know, without sounding weird 00:17:40.279 --> 00:17:45.240 or bitter or pissy, like, I hate the fact that 00:17:45.789 --> 00:17:49.490 as soon as an artist or a band puts out a single 00:17:49.490 --> 00:17:54.470 or an album, all the people at radio and the 00:17:54.470 --> 00:17:57.109 suits, I call them the suits. They immediately 00:17:57.109 --> 00:18:01.210 try to figure out what box it goes into. Is this 00:18:01.210 --> 00:18:03.849 rock? Is it classic rock? Is it grunge rock? 00:18:03.950 --> 00:18:07.289 Is it, you know, college rock? Like, it's like, 00:18:07.349 --> 00:18:12.150 dude, stop with the fucking boxes. And like, 00:18:12.190 --> 00:18:17.079 again, without sounding redundant, Sorry about 00:18:17.079 --> 00:18:19.920 the length of my answers. But to me, the greatest 00:18:19.920 --> 00:18:24.359 era of music is from when the Beatles did Rubber 00:18:24.359 --> 00:18:31.019 Soul to 1980. Okay. That 15 years of music will 00:18:31.019 --> 00:18:40.000 never be duplicated again. The amount of eclectic. 00:18:40.509 --> 00:18:44.509 music that we had to listen to. Everything from, 00:18:44.549 --> 00:18:46.950 you know, the Beatles, the Stones, the Who, but 00:18:46.950 --> 00:18:50.170 then you had Zeppelin, Hendrix, Janis Joplin, 00:18:50.289 --> 00:18:54.950 The Doors, Deep Purple, Yes, Jethro Tull, David 00:18:54.950 --> 00:18:58.130 Bowie, Alice Cooper, Grand Funk. It was just 00:18:58.130 --> 00:19:04.190 all over the place. And then you were just like, 00:19:04.369 --> 00:19:09.190 hey, dude, what are you into? Music. You know 00:19:09.190 --> 00:19:12.279 what I mean? Not now, it's like, oh, I'm into 00:19:12.279 --> 00:19:15.220 grunge rock, or no, I'm into 80s rock, or, you 00:19:15.220 --> 00:19:18.920 know, no, it was just, I like music. So I just 00:19:18.920 --> 00:19:21.099 kind of wanted to get back into that. You know, 00:19:21.119 --> 00:19:23.700 if somebody wants to try and categorize my record, 00:19:23.880 --> 00:19:27.960 have at it. I'm not doing that. That, you know, 00:19:27.980 --> 00:19:30.279 I'll let you guys try and figure that out. But 00:19:30.279 --> 00:19:32.400 it's just like, I don't like the label thing. 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:36.740 And even too, there's been some people have come 00:19:36.740 --> 00:19:39.940 in like, oh, there's... There's actually a couple 00:19:39.940 --> 00:19:42.220 songs on your record that could be considered 00:19:42.220 --> 00:19:49.599 country. And I go, okay. They're like, oh, see, 00:19:49.700 --> 00:19:52.079 Nashville's rubbing off on you. I'm like, not 00:19:52.079 --> 00:19:56.299 really. You know what I mean? And if you sit 00:19:56.299 --> 00:20:01.359 there, for an example, I go, so Rolling Stones 00:20:01.359 --> 00:20:05.279 didn't live in Nashville. Yeah, the Rolling Stones 00:20:05.279 --> 00:20:08.250 in, you know. back in their day they wrote songs 00:20:08.250 --> 00:20:13.490 like wild horses i'm waiting on a friend dead 00:20:13.490 --> 00:20:19.650 flowers nowadays if we looked at music the way 00:20:19.650 --> 00:20:23.529 then the way we look at it now those songs would 00:20:23.529 --> 00:20:27.230 be considered country songs yeah and it's like 00:20:27.230 --> 00:20:29.890 back then that's what i loved those bands had 00:20:29.890 --> 00:20:37.039 the freedom to just be creative so I don't know 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:40.380 if I achieved that or not on this record. That's 00:20:40.380 --> 00:20:43.299 what I wanted to do, like put the labels aside 00:20:43.299 --> 00:20:48.380 and just write a great record. I personally feel 00:20:48.380 --> 00:20:52.700 like we did it. You know, somebody else may disagree 00:20:52.700 --> 00:20:56.039 with me. C 'est la vie. You know what I mean? 00:20:56.680 --> 00:20:59.539 Yeah. Ultimately, I mean, music is either good 00:20:59.539 --> 00:21:03.839 or bad. With all the labels and stuff, it's... 00:21:04.329 --> 00:21:06.710 It's becoming more common, I'm noticing in interviews 00:21:06.710 --> 00:21:09.829 where I talk to a band and say, well, you know, 00:21:09.829 --> 00:21:12.430 what's the label that you hate that's most attached 00:21:12.430 --> 00:21:15.490 to you? And they'll say, you know, well, I don't 00:21:15.490 --> 00:21:18.829 like this or that. We're just a rock band. We're 00:21:18.829 --> 00:21:22.309 just a this band, you know. And you just said 00:21:22.309 --> 00:21:26.549 it. There's two labels in music. There's good 00:21:26.549 --> 00:21:31.170 music and bad music. Yeah. And, you know, if 00:21:31.170 --> 00:21:33.190 you don't like my music, then I guess I'm in 00:21:33.190 --> 00:21:36.490 the bad music category. If you love my music, 00:21:36.509 --> 00:21:38.309 then it's in the good music category. That's 00:21:38.309 --> 00:21:41.849 how it should be to me. You know, so I'm all 00:21:41.849 --> 00:21:45.890 about that label, good or bad. Yeah. Yeah. And 00:21:45.890 --> 00:21:49.630 to your point, I mean, I grew up in an era where, 00:21:49.710 --> 00:21:53.950 like you're saying, where you bought an album. 00:21:54.410 --> 00:21:56.970 And the album was a journey. Each song, as I'm 00:21:56.970 --> 00:21:59.190 saying with your album, each song was different. 00:21:59.349 --> 00:22:03.609 It wasn't, well, we've got this one hit and we're 00:22:03.609 --> 00:22:05.950 going to have a B version, C version, D version, 00:22:06.049 --> 00:22:10.009 because we can just pump that out. So we're just 00:22:10.009 --> 00:22:12.809 going to try to regurgitate that same hit we 00:22:12.809 --> 00:22:17.029 had years ago. And again, that's why, like, listen, 00:22:17.150 --> 00:22:20.690 there was really great music after 1980 as well. 00:22:20.890 --> 00:22:24.359 Right. So I'm just saying, though, that's when 00:22:24.359 --> 00:22:27.779 that whole formula thing started to come into 00:22:27.779 --> 00:22:31.400 play. Yeah. And, you know, where bands like, 00:22:31.519 --> 00:22:36.420 you know, I'm trying to think of one offhand, 00:22:36.500 --> 00:22:39.019 but, you know, your Def Leppards or Bon Jovies 00:22:39.019 --> 00:22:42.000 or, you know, all these guys that had massive 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:46.579 amounts of success. I'm sure they got shit when 00:22:46.579 --> 00:22:48.460 they were like, oh, hey, we want to try and do. 00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:51.349 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah. your your last 00:22:51.349 --> 00:22:54.430 record did this you know let's let's just stick 00:22:54.430 --> 00:22:57.710 with the formula that this works if it ain't 00:22:57.710 --> 00:23:01.890 broken don't try and fix it and you know and 00:23:01.890 --> 00:23:04.710 i'm not saying those bands fall into that category 00:23:04.710 --> 00:23:09.049 but it was much more prevalent once once you 00:23:09.049 --> 00:23:12.349 had bands that were selling a million five million 00:23:12.349 --> 00:23:16.630 ten million records you know the label especially 00:23:16.630 --> 00:23:20.900 they don't want you to get out of that This works. 00:23:21.119 --> 00:23:24.759 Stay there. You know what I mean? And I'm just 00:23:24.759 --> 00:23:30.240 not into that. Yeah, I hear you. There's two 00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:33.599 tracks on the album that you had released previously 00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:39.039 over the past few years. How much of this album 00:23:39.039 --> 00:23:42.740 was written for the recording session and how 00:23:42.740 --> 00:23:46.180 much was just riffs or lyrics or different ideas 00:23:46.180 --> 00:23:49.950 that you had accumulated over the years? It was, 00:23:50.009 --> 00:23:53.309 you know, there was ideas there that, you know, 00:23:53.309 --> 00:23:56.769 I had worked with Marty on and we just kind of, 00:23:56.769 --> 00:23:59.630 like, I started working on them. And, you know, 00:23:59.650 --> 00:24:02.809 it's funny, during COVID, I told Marty I want 00:24:02.809 --> 00:24:07.890 to do a record. And, you know, he's like, ah, 00:24:07.930 --> 00:24:10.630 dude, you know, nobody's doing records anymore, 00:24:10.750 --> 00:24:13.890 bro. They're doing the records, but this is how 00:24:13.890 --> 00:24:16.049 they're doing it now. Like you, you put out a 00:24:16.049 --> 00:24:19.269 single, finish one song, you put it out, let 00:24:19.269 --> 00:24:21.529 it sit for a minute while you're working on the 00:24:21.529 --> 00:24:23.450 rest of the record. And you just kind of release 00:24:23.450 --> 00:24:26.509 singles. I gotta be honest with you though. I'm 00:24:26.509 --> 00:24:29.630 not the most computer literate person. Right. 00:24:30.289 --> 00:24:33.450 I can't even spell algorithm, let alone tell 00:24:33.450 --> 00:24:36.549 you what the fuck it is. Right. So, you know, 00:24:36.549 --> 00:24:39.460 and. like all these people are giving me advice 00:24:39.460 --> 00:24:42.079 like oh dude you got when you put your song out 00:24:42.079 --> 00:24:44.240 you need to hashtag all the bands that it sounds 00:24:44.240 --> 00:24:48.960 like so it goes into there and i'm like a i don't 00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:52.559 want to write anybody else's coattails and b 00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:58.240 i i'm not understanding any of this so i had 00:24:58.240 --> 00:25:01.339 started working on cassie bella your own worst 00:25:01.339 --> 00:25:06.660 enemy and but then i was going don't understand 00:25:06.660 --> 00:25:11.460 this so i kind of put the brakes on i just kept 00:25:11.460 --> 00:25:16.339 writing and then i got offered to come back to 00:25:16.339 --> 00:25:19.960 the daisies and i just jumped in with both feet 00:25:19.960 --> 00:25:23.000 with that like we did a best of tour right when 00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:26.359 i went back i was actually on tour with winger 00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:30.619 and tom keifer myself doing acoustic shows and 00:25:30.619 --> 00:25:33.940 then i jumped right into that and we toured for 00:25:33.940 --> 00:25:37.960 the better part of a you know six eight months 00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:42.579 and then we got into the studio and did light 00:25:42.579 --> 00:25:45.299 them up and the blues record a couple years ago 00:25:45.299 --> 00:25:50.660 and toured on that and so last year i got offered 00:25:50.660 --> 00:25:53.740 by frontiers like hey do you want to do a record 00:25:53.740 --> 00:26:01.500 and i was like yeah okay yeah i'll let these 00:26:01.500 --> 00:26:05.160 guys figure out this whole algorithm hashtagging 00:26:05.160 --> 00:26:08.140 like they they got they got people that do this 00:26:08.140 --> 00:26:11.319 for a living right uh i'll just do the record 00:26:11.319 --> 00:26:14.240 so marty and i just as soon as the daisy's tour 00:26:14.240 --> 00:26:19.559 was finished um we kind of just got to work and 00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:22.180 and i i would honestly say there was maybe only 00:26:22.180 --> 00:26:26.059 three songs that i had that were kind of done 00:26:26.059 --> 00:26:29.500 okay and that was cassie bella your own worst 00:26:29.500 --> 00:26:33.539 enemy and love that'll never be and then the 00:26:33.539 --> 00:26:36.180 rest marty and i just got to work on and started 00:26:36.180 --> 00:26:41.039 writing and and putting putting together so majority 00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:47.160 of the records kind of new okay yeah but i i 00:26:47.160 --> 00:26:50.299 mean i've i've literally got probably another 00:26:50.299 --> 00:26:54.299 40 or 50 ideas on my phone that marty and i haven't 00:26:54.299 --> 00:26:58.819 even looked at yet so okay yeah cool yeah i was 00:26:58.819 --> 00:27:01.220 going to ask how important marty was to the entire 00:27:03.740 --> 00:27:07.740 You know what? Marty's I've always, I've known 00:27:07.740 --> 00:27:11.259 Marty since I was in the screen. Okay. And I've 00:27:11.259 --> 00:27:16.119 watched his growth from, you know, being a guy 00:27:16.119 --> 00:27:18.759 in a band to realizing that, Oh, this pro tools 00:27:18.759 --> 00:27:23.940 thing is it's gonna, um, this thing's going to 00:27:23.940 --> 00:27:27.460 blow up and Marty, Marty got ahold of it. And 00:27:27.460 --> 00:27:30.319 then he did the brother Kane record. and then 00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:32.859 the brother kane led to him doing aerosmith and 00:27:32.859 --> 00:27:36.319 then you know that led to whatever so i've watched 00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:40.359 marty grow and then uh i suggested marty for 00:27:40.359 --> 00:27:43.799 the daisies uh when we were doing the make some 00:27:43.799 --> 00:27:49.299 noise record and marty for whatever reasons i 00:27:49.299 --> 00:27:50.859 don't know if it's because we know each other 00:27:50.859 --> 00:27:53.980 um marty and i ride motorcycles a lot together 00:27:53.980 --> 00:27:59.630 um but he gets me he knows what i'm about he 00:27:59.630 --> 00:28:03.170 knows when to push he knows when to let off and 00:28:03.170 --> 00:28:07.609 i think he's from a writer's point of view he's 00:28:07.609 --> 00:28:09.630 one of the most talented people i've ever met 00:28:09.630 --> 00:28:15.230 on top of being a great producer so i just love 00:28:15.230 --> 00:28:19.829 working with the dude and i hope that this is 00:28:19.829 --> 00:28:23.470 something that because i i believe this is just 00:28:23.470 --> 00:28:27.309 me rambling so i apologize no that's fine But 00:28:27.309 --> 00:28:30.910 when you look at the old Aerosmith records, all 00:28:30.910 --> 00:28:33.549 those classic records they did with Jack Douglas, 00:28:33.809 --> 00:28:38.789 or you look at all the great records Queen did 00:28:38.789 --> 00:28:42.769 with Roy Thomas Baker, or the Beatles with George 00:28:42.769 --> 00:28:46.930 Martin. Like, to me, those guys were a part of 00:28:46.930 --> 00:28:49.869 the unit. You know what I mean? They understood 00:28:49.869 --> 00:28:55.119 how to make that unit work. That's the kind of 00:28:55.119 --> 00:28:57.839 relationship I want with Marty. Like, I would 00:28:57.839 --> 00:29:00.519 love to be able to sit here five records from 00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:04.680 now and go, yeah, man, me and Marty, we're clicking 00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:08.200 on all cylinders. You know what I mean? Have 00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:11.859 it be that Bernie Toppin, Elton John relationship 00:29:11.859 --> 00:29:17.000 that lasts 20 years. You know, so I just love 00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:19.359 working with the guy. You know what I mean? I 00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:22.839 think he's incredibly talented. And that's my 00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:26.880 two cents and I'm sticking to it. Whatever. Yeah, 00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:30.279 that's something that we've discussed on my show 00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:35.519 with various bands, how they kind of hit a sweet 00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:38.180 spot with a specific producer who just knows 00:29:38.180 --> 00:29:41.880 what the band needs, knows when to cut them off, 00:29:42.019 --> 00:29:45.220 knows when to reshape certain things in their 00:29:45.220 --> 00:29:48.960 music, get the right sound so that you get timeless 00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:53.819 music out of them. So I get exactly what you're 00:29:53.819 --> 00:29:55.599 saying. And that's the thing. I mean, I think 00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:59.619 if you listen to your album, you don't get the 00:29:59.619 --> 00:30:04.460 feeling that whether it was Pro Tools or not, 00:30:04.519 --> 00:30:06.559 whether you're playing to a click or not, it's 00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:09.160 almost like the album could have come out today, 00:30:09.420 --> 00:30:13.740 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 30. So it's timeless 00:30:13.740 --> 00:30:18.640 music at the end of it. And that's all I've ever 00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:22.359 really... wanted you know i mean i listen trust 00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:29.140 me i've got some songs from my past that you 00:30:29.140 --> 00:30:32.000 know i put on and i just sit there and go oh 00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:35.059 my god dude what the was i thinking when i wrote 00:30:35.059 --> 00:30:40.220 these lyrics they're just so caveman um you know 00:30:40.220 --> 00:30:43.160 and we've all got we've all got a few of those 00:30:43.160 --> 00:30:50.599 in our catalog but uh you know ultimately marty 00:30:50.599 --> 00:30:52.660 just sat with me and he goes what do you want 00:30:52.660 --> 00:30:56.380 to do and i and i told him i said i want to go 00:30:56.380 --> 00:31:02.359 back to the 60s and 70s kind of a vibe and i 00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:09.460 want to do a record where it's the whole record 00:31:09.460 --> 00:31:13.220 is the statement not a song or two right uh you 00:31:13.220 --> 00:31:17.409 know what i mean and he goes okay and i go no 00:31:17.409 --> 00:31:21.490 categories, no boxes. And Marty understood exactly 00:31:21.490 --> 00:31:25.009 what I was saying. And it was great because Marty 00:31:25.009 --> 00:31:27.569 just went on tour with me as well, playing guitar 00:31:27.569 --> 00:31:30.309 with me. And, you know, he just gave me a hug 00:31:30.309 --> 00:31:33.609 and he's like, dude, we, we nailed it with this 00:31:33.609 --> 00:31:38.150 record. And I'm like, that's awesome. I love 00:31:38.150 --> 00:31:44.890 that. Yeah. That's, that's so cool. You've touched 00:31:44.890 --> 00:31:47.509 upon, various other bands that you've been in 00:31:47.509 --> 00:31:50.730 Motley Crue, Dead Daisies. You've had to step 00:31:50.730 --> 00:31:57.029 into certain situations where other people would 00:31:57.029 --> 00:31:59.809 probably cower from them. I mean, even with the 00:31:59.809 --> 00:32:02.430 Dead Daisies, when you came back, you were coming 00:32:02.430 --> 00:32:07.789 back for Glenn Hughes. You know, how fearless 00:32:07.789 --> 00:32:11.430 do you have to be walking into some of these 00:32:11.430 --> 00:32:13.690 situations to say, you know what? Fuck it. I'm 00:32:13.690 --> 00:32:18.460 John Karabi. And this is me. You know, honestly, 00:32:18.660 --> 00:32:21.880 I don't, you know. Yeah, I got to be honest with 00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:23.960 you. When I went back to the Daisies, I was like, 00:32:24.019 --> 00:32:29.740 oh, shit. Here we go again. You know, I hope 00:32:29.740 --> 00:32:37.220 the fans, you know, appreciate what I bring to 00:32:37.220 --> 00:32:42.779 the table. You know, again, I'm like. not even 00:32:42.779 --> 00:32:45.920 not even taking into consideration that glenn 00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:49.359 was filling in for me right i was more into the 00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:53.359 oh great now i'm i'm filling in for glenn uh 00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:58.079 are these fans going to accept it again uh you 00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:03.160 know so there there's there's a bit of um insecurity 00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:09.980 on my part about that kind of shit but um then 00:33:09.980 --> 00:33:13.569 i had to kind of remind myself that wait hold 00:33:13.569 --> 00:33:17.009 on a minute like i i was there i was there first 00:33:17.009 --> 00:33:19.049 you know what i mean i did four or five records 00:33:19.049 --> 00:33:24.089 so um but it it was a little tedious going back 00:33:24.089 --> 00:33:26.910 you know what i mean i i i still worry about 00:33:26.910 --> 00:33:31.990 you know what i mean whatever so um you know 00:33:31.990 --> 00:33:34.930 but i i honestly have been offered other other 00:33:34.930 --> 00:33:39.650 gigs as well like i got offered the rat gig um 00:33:40.770 --> 00:33:48.089 Right after, I think I was still in Union. And 00:33:48.089 --> 00:33:49.730 they're like, hey, dude, Stephen left. Do you 00:33:49.730 --> 00:33:54.809 want to sing? Nope. No. And then somebody mentioned, 00:33:54.950 --> 00:33:57.569 oh, man, you should try out for STP. I'm like, 00:33:57.690 --> 00:34:08.210 nope. No. These singers are Scott Weiland, Stephen 00:34:08.210 --> 00:34:11.070 Piercy, love them or hate them. whatever they're 00:34:11.070 --> 00:34:15.550 they've got an iconic voice you know and i'm 00:34:15.550 --> 00:34:20.110 no i don't want anything to do with it um even 00:34:20.110 --> 00:34:22.610 the daisies my first go around it's like i didn't 00:34:22.610 --> 00:34:25.369 know anything about john stevens their first 00:34:25.369 --> 00:34:28.489 singer and then i started reading up on the guy 00:34:28.489 --> 00:34:33.369 and i'm like wait this guy was in in excess you 00:34:33.369 --> 00:34:37.030 know so i was a bit nervous about that too right 00:34:37.030 --> 00:34:39.900 uh But they kind of worked it out where it's 00:34:39.900 --> 00:34:42.579 like I didn't, I wasn't necessarily joining the 00:34:42.579 --> 00:34:44.679 band. I went and I just did some shows with them 00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:48.000 in Cuba. And I just got along with everybody 00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:50.480 really well. So it kind of eased my nerves a 00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:53.440 bit. And then they're like, hey, do you want 00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:55.940 to do a record with us? And I was like, yeah, 00:34:56.019 --> 00:34:58.860 okay, sure, whatever. I didn't think about it. 00:34:59.300 --> 00:35:04.039 But, you know, it is a bit weird, man, stepping 00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:06.440 into someone else's spotlight. You know what 00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:10.659 I mean? Right. Regardless. And, and I'm sure 00:35:10.659 --> 00:35:13.780 with what you're saying, some of the bands that 00:35:13.780 --> 00:35:17.460 you chose not to join, the experience that you 00:35:17.460 --> 00:35:19.719 had previous to that probably helped you out 00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:24.760 with, with that type of a decision as well. Yeah. 00:35:24.860 --> 00:35:28.260 I mean, it wasn't, listen, dude, like I, I, you 00:35:28.260 --> 00:35:30.840 know, I've been saying it for 30 years. It was 00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:35.360 like, I mean, I found out very quickly, the band 00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:38.739 was like, Hey dude, you're the new singer it's 00:35:38.739 --> 00:35:44.780 like awesome great which i i honestly hit me 00:35:44.780 --> 00:35:48.559 like broadside because i wasn't expecting to 00:35:48.559 --> 00:35:53.679 be the new lead singer for motley crew but i 00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:56.400 i mean right out of the gate i started to realize 00:35:56.400 --> 00:35:59.599 that the band was the only ones that really appreciated 00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:05.400 me being involved i know their manager wasn't 00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:09.579 happy The lawyers weren't happy. The accountant 00:36:09.579 --> 00:36:12.820 wasn't happy. And the record label that just 00:36:12.820 --> 00:36:15.900 gave them $25 million definitely wasn't happy 00:36:15.900 --> 00:36:19.340 that I was involved. So I was swimming upstream 00:36:19.340 --> 00:36:22.900 from like, I won't even say day one. I'll say 00:36:22.900 --> 00:36:27.179 day three, day five. You know what I mean? Once 00:36:27.179 --> 00:36:29.500 it got out that, oh, this is the guy that's going 00:36:29.500 --> 00:36:32.539 to replace the other guy. And I'm like, fuck. 00:36:34.650 --> 00:36:36.610 I didn't really like being in that position. 00:36:36.809 --> 00:36:39.289 I like the position I'm in right now. I'm doing 00:36:39.289 --> 00:36:44.650 a solo record and I get to write my own path. 00:36:45.349 --> 00:36:50.469 And this is probably the first time in my entire 00:36:50.469 --> 00:36:54.030 career where I've gotten to write my own path. 00:36:54.849 --> 00:37:00.150 Whether it's even with the songs, normally when 00:37:00.150 --> 00:37:03.400 you're in a band situation, There's always that 00:37:03.400 --> 00:37:05.860 give and take you're married to the other three 00:37:05.860 --> 00:37:09.380 guys in the band. So you're trying to keep everybody 00:37:09.380 --> 00:37:13.619 happy, but get your point across, you know? So, 00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:16.500 you know, you can come up with a finished song, 00:37:16.659 --> 00:37:20.079 which I've done in the past. And then inevitably 00:37:20.079 --> 00:37:23.380 the guitar player will come up and say, ah, man, 00:37:23.420 --> 00:37:26.039 I don't really like soloing in the key of B flat. 00:37:27.179 --> 00:37:30.760 Okay. Can we, can we change this part? Okay. 00:37:31.530 --> 00:37:34.769 you know and then or the drummer's like i don't 00:37:34.769 --> 00:37:36.690 really like that beat that you're doing i would 00:37:36.690 --> 00:37:39.829 have done it like this okay so you're always 00:37:39.829 --> 00:37:43.849 compromising and this was my first real even 00:37:43.849 --> 00:37:47.769 though marty was as involved as he was he always 00:37:47.769 --> 00:37:52.269 kind of prefaced everything with hey dude it's 00:37:52.269 --> 00:37:54.230 your name on the record whatever you want to 00:37:54.230 --> 00:37:59.550 do yeah so i'm kind of charting my own path right 00:37:59.550 --> 00:38:05.219 now Really late in the game. Yeah, that's fine. 00:38:06.780 --> 00:38:12.559 Last few questions here. There was so much talk. 00:38:12.739 --> 00:38:14.500 I mean, it was in the dirt and everything that 00:38:14.500 --> 00:38:18.000 for a split second, they had tried to have you 00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:20.780 and Vince and Motley Crue at the same time. But 00:38:20.780 --> 00:38:23.820 my question is, was there ever a shot of you 00:38:23.820 --> 00:38:26.579 and Glenn being in Dead Daisies at the same time? 00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:40.300 uh no um i left at the end of 2018 and uh it 00:38:40.300 --> 00:38:42.380 took them a while to figure out who they were 00:38:42.380 --> 00:38:47.019 who they were gonna get okay uh you know and 00:38:47.019 --> 00:38:50.579 i kind of made my choice like i'm gonna i'm gonna 00:38:50.579 --> 00:38:53.400 go do shows on my own and spend some time with 00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:58.199 my family and you know uh and then covet hit 00:38:58.619 --> 00:39:04.579 In early 20. So there was no real talk about 00:39:04.579 --> 00:39:09.900 the two of us playing together. And it's got 00:39:09.900 --> 00:39:12.639 nothing to do with me or Glenn. Like, I love 00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:14.940 Glenn. I met Glenn when I was doing the Motley 00:39:14.940 --> 00:39:18.019 record. He sang Misunderstood with me on the 00:39:18.019 --> 00:39:22.079 Motley record. So I've known Glenn for a very, 00:39:22.139 --> 00:39:26.360 very long time. He's always been great to me, 00:39:26.380 --> 00:39:28.820 even when he was in the daisies and I was out 00:39:28.820 --> 00:39:32.380 like we were texting each other via Instagram 00:39:32.380 --> 00:39:36.480 and other other shit. And and then when I heard 00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:39.300 the record, I congratulated him and he was like, 00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:43.000 but and anytime I release a new song, he's like 00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:46.260 thumbs up, gives it a heart, you know, and so 00:39:46.260 --> 00:39:52.039 we're good. You know, it's just, you know, it's 00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:54.739 never really, truly been discussed. You know 00:39:54.739 --> 00:39:59.559 what I mean? Okay. Where should people go to 00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:03.739 pick the album up and ensure that the most amount 00:40:03.739 --> 00:40:08.800 of money gets back into your pockets? Well, that's 00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:15.800 kind of a... You know, honestly, right now it's 00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:18.280 pre -ordered. The album isn't even out yet. It 00:40:18.280 --> 00:40:22.960 doesn't come out until April 24th. But they can 00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:27.679 go to johnkarabi .com, and there's a thing there 00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:29.719 where you can order the record. There's all these 00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:33.360 little weird bundles, and they're doing CDs and 00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:37.679 vinyl and all that shit, T -shirts, and, you 00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:39.480 know, they can purchase stuff through there. 00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:47.380 Okay. And, you know, it is what it is. It's, 00:40:47.380 --> 00:40:51.380 you know. And there's record labels and different 00:40:51.380 --> 00:40:54.920 things like that involved. So who knows about 00:40:54.920 --> 00:40:58.500 if I'll ever see any money from it because none 00:40:58.500 --> 00:41:03.139 of my other records I do. It's hilarious. Okay. 00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:07.980 And where can people go to keep up with all things 00:41:07.980 --> 00:41:10.300 John Karabi? Your website? Is there any social 00:41:10.300 --> 00:41:13.210 media that they can follow you on? yeah there's 00:41:13.210 --> 00:41:16.030 john karabi official on facebook john karabi 00:41:16.030 --> 00:41:19.909 official on instagram unfortunately i haven't 00:41:19.909 --> 00:41:22.510 convinced instagram and facebook that i need 00:41:22.510 --> 00:41:26.949 the blue dot they keep telling me that i keep 00:41:26.949 --> 00:41:30.369 writing in with my id and telling them that i'm 00:41:30.369 --> 00:41:32.829 john karabi and for some reason they don't believe 00:41:32.829 --> 00:41:37.280 it but they can also go to johnkarabi .com And 00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:39.860 there's tour dates, videos, everything is there, 00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:45.659 merch, everything. Awesome. Well, I want to thank 00:41:45.659 --> 00:41:50.579 you so much for all your time today. And it's 00:41:50.579 --> 00:41:53.420 been a lot of fun talking to you. Thank you, 00:41:53.420 --> 00:41:56.480 buddy. And keep waving the flag, pal. Absolutely. 00:41:56.800 --> 00:41:59.199 All right. Thank you. All right, buddy. Thank 00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:13.690 you. podcast you can subscribe to the show on 00:42:13.690 --> 00:42:16.389 all your favorite podcast platforms like apple 00:42:16.389 --> 00:42:20.210 podcast spotify google podcast amazon and more 00:42:20.210 --> 00:42:23.289 go to signals from mars .com for more information 00:42:23.289 --> 00:42:24.809 this concludes our show