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Um, but without his input, 00:05:13.069 --> 00:05:17.589 I wouldn't be where I am here. 17 years later, 00:05:17.649 --> 00:05:20.910 uh, with this show and doing some cool work. 00:05:20.949 --> 00:05:22.889 I think, I hope that you guys are enjoying all 00:05:22.889 --> 00:05:25.029 of the content that I'm bringing to you guys. 00:05:25.750 --> 00:05:31.129 I'm Super inspired at the moment and trying to 00:05:31.129 --> 00:05:34.769 provide you guys with as much content as possible. 00:05:36.189 --> 00:05:41.029 So, yeah. As I always say, thank you for listening. 00:05:41.110 --> 00:05:43.889 Thank you for watching. There's a million other 00:05:43.889 --> 00:05:46.189 shows that you could spend your time on right 00:05:46.189 --> 00:05:49.069 now, but to choose to be here and it means a 00:05:49.069 --> 00:05:52.329 whole heck of a lot to me. So thank you. Let's 00:05:52.329 --> 00:06:14.959 get on with it. Welcome to the latest episode 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:19.740 of Signals from Mars. Joining me today is Mark 00:06:19.740 --> 00:06:22.819 Striegel. How are you, Mark? Good. How are you 00:06:22.819 --> 00:06:28.259 doing? Doing good. Thanks for having me. Yeah, 00:06:28.699 --> 00:06:34.100 thanks for you coming on. This dawned on me the 00:06:34.100 --> 00:06:38.319 other day. You've been podcasting before I have. 00:06:38.379 --> 00:06:43.720 It's going to be 17 years for me. Yeah. How many 00:06:43.720 --> 00:06:47.319 people do you think have started podcasting after 00:06:47.319 --> 00:06:50.699 listening to Talking Metal? Oh, I don't know. 00:06:50.779 --> 00:06:56.000 I really don't. You know, we started 21 years 00:06:56.000 --> 00:07:01.620 ago. There were definitely some people came in 00:07:01.620 --> 00:07:04.180 right after that, but most people didn't start 00:07:04.180 --> 00:07:07.959 podcasting until, you know, five to 10 years 00:07:07.959 --> 00:07:15.019 ago. how, how many we personally were responsible 00:07:15.019 --> 00:07:18.680 for, I really don't know. I'm sure, I'm sure 00:07:18.680 --> 00:07:24.339 some, um, but, uh, but yeah, man, it's, it's, 00:07:24.339 --> 00:07:26.839 it's crazy. I mean, it's like everyone has a 00:07:26.839 --> 00:07:29.300 podcast nowadays. It's like, it's like Howard 00:07:29.300 --> 00:07:31.899 Stern says, it's like, you know, who doesn't 00:07:31.899 --> 00:07:35.800 have a podcast? It, it, it's, uh, it, yeah, I 00:07:35.800 --> 00:07:37.740 could go on a whole rant and I don't want to 00:07:37.740 --> 00:07:40.860 go negative, but I feel like it's just, it's 00:07:40.860 --> 00:07:43.560 not as special as it used to be to me, you know, 00:07:43.560 --> 00:07:48.519 um, where it's just like, seriously, every, everyone 00:07:48.519 --> 00:07:51.000 and their grandma has a podcast. So it's, it's, 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:54.379 uh, you know, and since I brought talking metal 00:07:54.379 --> 00:07:57.019 back, I've seen that, you know, it's like we 00:07:57.019 --> 00:07:59.319 used to get thousands of downloads. We get hundreds 00:07:59.319 --> 00:08:02.639 now. It's like, when I say we, I mean, I, I'm 00:08:02.639 --> 00:08:05.439 the only guy doing it nowadays, but, um, uh, 00:08:05.660 --> 00:08:13.250 yeah. So, so it's, uh, It still can be a powerful 00:08:13.250 --> 00:08:18.449 platform, but it's harder than ever to break 00:08:18.449 --> 00:08:21.050 through with it. We were so fortunate starting 00:08:21.050 --> 00:08:26.389 it years ago when we did. But yeah, back to your 00:08:26.389 --> 00:08:29.889 question. I really don't know. I'm sure a couple 00:08:29.889 --> 00:08:38.360 dozen to take a guess. Glad I'm back doing Talking 00:08:38.360 --> 00:08:40.980 Metal. It's kind of a little more under the radar, 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:45.759 you know, with my day job kind of taking up most 00:08:45.759 --> 00:08:50.259 of my time. But it's been great. And we're posting 00:08:50.259 --> 00:08:53.340 episodes where I'm posting episodes every Tuesday 00:08:53.340 --> 00:08:58.440 on the feed. So if you don't follow or subscribe 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:00.740 to Talking Metal, I would totally appreciate 00:09:00.740 --> 00:09:03.860 it if you joined our small club of listeners. 00:09:06.889 --> 00:09:09.490 If you're interested in even more additional 00:09:09.490 --> 00:09:11.389 content, I'm talking to the listener of this 00:09:11.389 --> 00:09:15.629 show. Patreon is a place where, Victor, you've 00:09:15.629 --> 00:09:18.289 been kind enough to join me a number of times 00:09:18.289 --> 00:09:20.809 recently. We just had a great episode I posted 00:09:20.809 --> 00:09:25.279 last week. that you and I did that only the people 00:09:25.279 --> 00:09:28.200 who are supporting on Patreon, which you can 00:09:28.200 --> 00:09:32.679 do anywhere from $2 to $20 a month, get. And 00:09:32.679 --> 00:09:35.139 we had a great discussion on Ozzfest, which is 00:09:35.139 --> 00:09:38.899 coming back. So what's that going to look like? 00:09:38.940 --> 00:09:41.700 What's it going to be like? You and I talk about 00:09:41.700 --> 00:09:45.139 that on the recent. patreon only podcast found 00:09:45.139 --> 00:09:48.299 at patreon .com slash talking metal okay that's 00:09:48.299 --> 00:09:55.080 my plug i'm done yeah yeah well i i as most people 00:09:55.080 --> 00:09:58.240 know i mean i started this podcast after having 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:00.779 conversations with you so i mean i'm definitely 00:10:00.779 --> 00:10:03.659 one that will always say that i started podcasting 00:10:03.659 --> 00:10:06.220 because of talking metal and because of you but 00:10:06.220 --> 00:10:10.279 um you also have to think of the fact that You're 00:10:10.279 --> 00:10:12.820 also doing this kind of like I am on an independent 00:10:12.820 --> 00:10:16.720 level where a lot of the other podcasters out 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:19.639 there are on some sort of a platform or they 00:10:19.639 --> 00:10:24.480 have someone behind them, you know, with publicity 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:31.340 or with paying some part of the show. So, I mean, 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:34.379 I think to your credit, even though the numbers 00:10:34.379 --> 00:10:37.919 may not be the same. you also don't have a machine 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:40.299 behind you. You're kind of doing it still DIY 00:10:40.299 --> 00:10:44.019 kind of a grassroots style, which is how Talking 00:10:44.019 --> 00:10:46.080 Metal has always been, you know, outside of, 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:49.320 you know, you guys were on Fuse and whatnot and 00:10:49.320 --> 00:10:53.460 here and there on VH1 and MTV. You've always 00:10:53.460 --> 00:10:57.100 more or less steered your own ship though. You 00:10:57.100 --> 00:11:02.779 don't have a, you know, I'm trying to think you 00:11:02.779 --> 00:11:05.860 don't have smart lists or one of these like big 00:11:05.860 --> 00:11:09.120 podcasting networks behind you. You've always 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:12.600 kind of done your own thing. And that probably 00:11:12.600 --> 00:11:16.320 lends itself to you continuing to do your own 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:19.220 thing as opposed to having to take orders and 00:11:19.220 --> 00:11:22.899 having to. Oh, well, right. Interview this person 00:11:22.899 --> 00:11:27.340 who. You know, there may not be any interest 00:11:27.340 --> 00:11:30.059 in interviewing them or maybe they're so out 00:11:30.059 --> 00:11:32.539 of left field that you don't even feel like they 00:11:32.539 --> 00:11:36.720 fit in what you're trying to do. Yeah. Yeah, 00:11:36.799 --> 00:11:39.000 man. I mean, definitely. I hear what you're saying. 00:11:39.139 --> 00:11:44.480 I mean, but. And there's definitely a freedom 00:11:44.480 --> 00:11:48.080 there I can talk to. who I want, but on the flip 00:11:48.080 --> 00:11:50.899 side, there's nothing like getting paid for doing 00:11:50.899 --> 00:11:54.779 something. Um, you know, I, I, I, it's not like 00:11:54.779 --> 00:11:57.519 we've, uh, you know, I've heard other podcasts 00:11:57.519 --> 00:12:00.019 pretend like, oh, we want to stay independent. 00:12:00.600 --> 00:12:02.899 It's bullshit. Everyone, everyone wants to get, 00:12:02.899 --> 00:12:06.179 get paid for what they're doing. And unless you're 00:12:06.179 --> 00:12:11.159 already, you know, totally set financially, um, 00:12:11.850 --> 00:12:14.490 I think, I think whether people admit it, they 00:12:14.490 --> 00:12:16.549 all, they all dream that they're, they're gonna, 00:12:16.649 --> 00:12:20.549 uh, you know, be rewarded. If not, if not with, 00:12:20.570 --> 00:12:24.649 um, money with their podcast, definitely with, 00:12:24.769 --> 00:12:31.889 uh, you know, recognition. So, um, which, which 00:12:31.889 --> 00:12:33.850 we had that with talking metal, you know, like 00:12:33.850 --> 00:12:36.330 I said, it's, it's flying under the radar now, 00:12:36.570 --> 00:12:41.759 um, which, which. I am I am OK with currently 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:45.240 I have a day job which allows me to talk to hundreds 00:12:45.240 --> 00:12:47.980 of thousands of people every day. So it's it's, 00:12:47.980 --> 00:12:52.940 you know, I'm OK with talking to just a hundred 00:12:52.940 --> 00:12:56.299 people or it's more than that. A few hundred 00:12:56.299 --> 00:12:59.820 people on the Talking Metal podcast. And, you 00:12:59.820 --> 00:13:02.080 know, I've been cutting the interviews up that 00:13:02.080 --> 00:13:04.740 I do and posting them on social and they do great. 00:13:04.879 --> 00:13:06.399 They get like, you know, some of these clips 00:13:06.399 --> 00:13:10.740 get like. I posted one with Michael Wilton talking 00:13:10.740 --> 00:13:13.679 about Rage for Order the other day. It's got 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:18.360 like 18 ,000 views or something. So yeah, it's 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:23.559 the content still coming from me on a corporate 00:13:23.559 --> 00:13:25.919 platform. Well, not still, but it comes from 00:13:25.919 --> 00:13:29.600 me on a corporate platform every six days a week 00:13:29.600 --> 00:13:32.700 on the radio. But then, yeah, I have independent 00:13:32.700 --> 00:13:36.389 stuff that I am able to. post on my own on the 00:13:36.389 --> 00:13:38.570 talking metal podcast and of course on my instagram 00:13:38.570 --> 00:13:41.549 which is where i'm focusing most of my social 00:13:41.549 --> 00:13:44.649 media presence now which is just my my handle 00:13:44.649 --> 00:13:48.649 mark striegel so so yeah man it's uh it's good 00:13:48.649 --> 00:13:53.610 but yeah to your point it's um it's absolutely 00:13:53.610 --> 00:13:58.210 nice to have the freedom that that you have uh 00:13:58.210 --> 00:14:00.470 you know doing doing your show where you can 00:14:00.470 --> 00:14:02.509 where you can talk about stuff and not worry 00:14:02.509 --> 00:14:05.809 about somebody uh questioning what you're saying 00:14:05.809 --> 00:14:09.129 or telling you, you need to interview this person 00:14:09.129 --> 00:14:12.009 or that person. So, so yeah, there's, there's 00:14:12.009 --> 00:14:17.169 definitely lots of pros to having creative freedom, 00:14:17.230 --> 00:14:21.169 not working for the man. So, so yeah, yeah, definitely. 00:14:21.450 --> 00:14:23.730 Yeah. It's funny though. You kind of alluded 00:14:23.730 --> 00:14:25.570 to this. There's so many people though, over 00:14:25.570 --> 00:14:29.529 the years, like when you started doing Patreon, 00:14:29.549 --> 00:14:32.879 I did it a little bit after where. As you mentioned, 00:14:32.960 --> 00:14:35.340 people said, I'm never going to do, you know, 00:14:35.340 --> 00:14:37.159 any crowdfunding. I'm never going to do this. 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:39.940 And little by little seeing some of them, you 00:14:39.940 --> 00:14:42.500 know, kind of follow suit. And there's nothing 00:14:42.500 --> 00:14:45.139 wrong with that. If you don't want to do anything 00:14:45.139 --> 00:14:47.419 like Patreon, that's cool. If you want to do 00:14:47.419 --> 00:14:50.139 it, that's cool, too. I mean, it's your show. 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:56.580 You do whatever you want. Right. So I sent you 00:14:56.580 --> 00:15:00.759 something yesterday, actually. something that 00:15:00.759 --> 00:15:02.820 I came across that says that right. I saw that. 00:15:02.960 --> 00:15:04.759 Yeah. I thought it was a video at first. It was 00:15:04.759 --> 00:15:07.580 just a little post. Yep. Yeah. I was trying to 00:15:07.580 --> 00:15:10.039 see, I was trying to find the source, but it 00:15:10.039 --> 00:15:12.200 was just that post that I came across. It says 00:15:12.200 --> 00:15:15.620 rock now among the fastest growing genres in 00:15:15.620 --> 00:15:19.360 the U S outpacing country music per new report. 00:15:19.480 --> 00:15:24.940 And the report is a, um, 2025 mid -year music 00:15:24.940 --> 00:15:30.700 industry report by luminate. Um, What are your 00:15:30.700 --> 00:15:35.080 thoughts on this? I don't believe it. I don't 00:15:35.080 --> 00:15:40.440 think it's true. I think the proof is in the 00:15:40.440 --> 00:15:44.340 pudding. You can show me a bunch of numbers and 00:15:44.340 --> 00:15:49.539 stuff. I'm much more, you know, but where are 00:15:49.539 --> 00:15:52.139 the rock bands filling stadiums? And I'm talking 00:15:52.139 --> 00:15:56.980 about filling stadiums with teenagers and 20 00:15:56.980 --> 00:16:02.019 -somethings. They're really, they're non -existent. 00:16:03.360 --> 00:16:07.000 So I don't, I think, you know, there's plenty 00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:10.840 of other, Rick Piatto just reported that rock 00:16:10.840 --> 00:16:16.980 streams on Spotify are declining every year. 00:16:17.059 --> 00:16:23.019 So I don't know. I don't know who this Illuminate 00:16:23.019 --> 00:16:27.779 is. Not not sure where they're getting that. 00:16:27.879 --> 00:16:31.899 I think it's I don't believe it personally. I 00:16:31.899 --> 00:16:37.340 go to tons, tons of shows. I do try to, you know, 00:16:37.340 --> 00:16:39.899 even, you know, I saw in that post they were. 00:16:40.679 --> 00:16:44.139 They had music from Ghost playing and I go to 00:16:44.139 --> 00:16:48.100 Ghost concerts every time they come through through 00:16:48.100 --> 00:16:51.080 town. While there is more younger people at a 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:58.669 Ghost show than there is at, you know. at, let's 00:16:58.669 --> 00:17:03.909 say, KISS, it's still a lot of, it's still not 00:17:03.909 --> 00:17:07.369 like a youth -based crowd. There are some of 00:17:07.369 --> 00:17:10.049 those mixed in, but not many, to be honest. It's, 00:17:10.049 --> 00:17:13.990 you know, instead of 50 and 60 -somethings, it's, 00:17:13.990 --> 00:17:17.220 you know. 30 and 40 somethings at a, at a, at 00:17:17.220 --> 00:17:19.500 a go show with, with some older people. I, you 00:17:19.500 --> 00:17:21.180 know, some people in their seventies at a go 00:17:21.180 --> 00:17:23.880 show. So, so I, I don't, I don't know. I mean, 00:17:23.900 --> 00:17:26.180 I grew up at a time where I was going to see 00:17:26.180 --> 00:17:28.940 iron maiden and anybody in the room over 18 was 00:17:28.940 --> 00:17:32.940 old, you know? So it's, it's and the arenas were 00:17:32.940 --> 00:17:38.339 filled. So I don't know that I believe that, 00:17:38.400 --> 00:17:41.980 that, and I don't know. I think it's so easy 00:17:41.980 --> 00:17:46.420 nowadays to throw up. News and get a million 00:17:46.420 --> 00:17:49.400 likes and it doesn't it doesn't necessarily mean 00:17:49.400 --> 00:17:52.759 the news is actually true. Would I like it to 00:17:52.759 --> 00:17:56.019 be true? Of course. Of course. I just think. 00:17:57.460 --> 00:18:00.619 I mean, we've spoken about this in the past, 00:18:00.680 --> 00:18:03.660 Victor, there's a whole can of worms, the whole 00:18:03.660 --> 00:18:07.180 bunch of stuff that needs to be discussed as 00:18:07.180 --> 00:18:11.470 to what needs to happen to to bring. rock music 00:18:11.470 --> 00:18:13.990 back. And, and, you know, whenever I question 00:18:13.990 --> 00:18:16.690 this, I get some person on social media saying, 00:18:16.809 --> 00:18:19.910 well, my kids like rock music. We went to, we're 00:18:19.910 --> 00:18:22.670 going to see Iron Maiden together. All right. 00:18:22.869 --> 00:18:25.869 Yeah. But you're, you're taking your kids to, 00:18:25.970 --> 00:18:29.569 to see the, the, the show. I don't, I don't believe 00:18:29.569 --> 00:18:33.710 that a lot of kids, and sure there's some, there's 00:18:33.710 --> 00:18:36.230 always some, but they just don't have that passion 00:18:36.230 --> 00:18:40.859 about it that, that, that we had. And anyone 00:18:40.859 --> 00:18:44.740 who tells me that, you know, the Metallica concert 00:18:44.740 --> 00:18:49.220 is filled with young kids definitely is at a 00:18:49.220 --> 00:18:52.240 different concert than I'm at when I see them 00:18:52.240 --> 00:18:55.240 at MetLife. It's all old people and not all. 00:18:55.359 --> 00:18:59.779 I take that back. It's 90 percent old people, 00:18:59.859 --> 00:19:03.200 you know, and when I young people to me is 30 00:19:03.200 --> 00:19:07.180 and under. And yeah, so so I don't know. I just 00:19:07.180 --> 00:19:09.980 I don't I don't see it. I know there's younger 00:19:09.980 --> 00:19:16.519 bands I'm unaware of, uneducated on, but anyone 00:19:16.519 --> 00:19:19.519 who's selling out MetLife, who's a rock act, 00:19:19.680 --> 00:19:22.559 I pretty much know who they are. And I'm just 00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:31.559 not seeing a resurgence in rock as that post 00:19:31.559 --> 00:19:34.440 that you sent me is reporting. But sorry for 00:19:34.440 --> 00:19:36.440 the Debbie Downer. I'm just being honest with 00:19:36.440 --> 00:19:39.190 what I see personally. What do you see? Yeah, 00:19:39.230 --> 00:19:42.630 no, I agree with you. You know, I my kids listen 00:19:42.630 --> 00:19:45.910 to all types of music. They like a lot of hard 00:19:45.910 --> 00:19:50.369 rock and metal. But to your point, if we go to 00:19:50.369 --> 00:19:53.609 a show, unless it's one of their favorite acts, 00:19:53.829 --> 00:19:59.430 they're not asking us, hey, Megadeth is coming 00:19:59.430 --> 00:20:02.250 to play. Can we go see them? You know, it's and 00:20:02.250 --> 00:20:07.059 are they going back and like. obsessively frantically 00:20:07.059 --> 00:20:11.680 learning about who's in Megadeth now and, and, 00:20:11.700 --> 00:20:14.400 and what their history is. Are they reading the 00:20:14.400 --> 00:20:19.119 books? Are they constantly online searching Megadeth 00:20:19.119 --> 00:20:21.880 and, and being obsessed with it? Like you and 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:24.480 I were when, when we were growing up, I don't 00:20:24.480 --> 00:20:27.119 know your kids, Victor, but if I were a betting 00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:29.559 man, I would bet they're not. They're not. Yeah. 00:20:29.720 --> 00:20:34.490 Yeah. And, and And I see it with my son. He's 00:20:34.490 --> 00:20:38.069 he's into football and he's obsessive with it. 00:20:38.130 --> 00:20:40.890 And he knows all the stats and he talks to his 00:20:40.890 --> 00:20:43.890 friends and they're all up on on the different 00:20:43.890 --> 00:20:46.289 football people. And, you know, I go to a football 00:20:46.289 --> 00:20:51.849 game, MetLife Stadium, see the Jets play. It's 00:20:51.849 --> 00:20:54.609 it's it's a mix. There's tons of young people 00:20:54.609 --> 00:20:57.130 there. They're into it. They're passionate about 00:20:57.130 --> 00:21:01.630 it. Are there also older people there? Yeah, 00:21:01.710 --> 00:21:09.789 it's football. But sports have continued to stay 00:21:09.789 --> 00:21:14.009 relevant with young people in a way that rock 00:21:14.009 --> 00:21:19.869 music, in my opinion, has not. And listen, I'm 00:21:19.869 --> 00:21:24.609 not Gene Simmons saying rock is dead, but I think 00:21:24.609 --> 00:21:30.619 among... the younger demographic it's pretty 00:21:30.619 --> 00:21:34.940 close you know i mean i i people what about stranger 00:21:34.940 --> 00:21:38.440 things they had metallica and and iron maiden 00:21:38.440 --> 00:21:42.039 music yeah who freaking cares it's like it's 00:21:42.039 --> 00:21:44.740 like it's like when i heard when i was a young 00:21:44.740 --> 00:21:47.359 kid and heard heard you know a frank sinatra 00:21:47.359 --> 00:21:51.960 song in in in a movie i was watching it was you 00:21:51.960 --> 00:21:54.339 know and i maybe i liked that song but it was 00:21:54.339 --> 00:21:59.099 i wasn't like going out and and becoming a Frank 00:21:59.099 --> 00:22:01.680 Sinatra fan, you know, you weren't digging through 00:22:01.680 --> 00:22:05.440 his catalog at tower records, uh, trying to figure 00:22:05.440 --> 00:22:08.259 out who played, you know, third trumpet on some 00:22:08.259 --> 00:22:13.079 song. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. So, uh, yeah, you 00:22:13.079 --> 00:22:16.339 know, um, but even, even with the stranger things, 00:22:16.420 --> 00:22:22.880 if, if, if that's the argument, um, what outside 00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:27.049 of master of puppets, Has that turned like the 00:22:27.049 --> 00:22:29.910 younger crowd onto again? Has that made? Oh, 00:22:29.950 --> 00:22:33.410 wow. I like the songs. I checked out the album. 00:22:33.509 --> 00:22:35.450 Oh, wow. They've got this whole other catalog. 00:22:35.549 --> 00:22:38.390 I've checked out all these other songs. I don't 00:22:38.390 --> 00:22:42.630 see that. And I mean, Iron Maiden was in the 00:22:42.630 --> 00:22:45.809 season finale of Stranger Things. The song The 00:22:45.809 --> 00:22:49.970 Trooper was like a big part of that or not the 00:22:49.970 --> 00:22:54.130 season, the series finale. And barely anyone 00:22:54.130 --> 00:22:58.380 even. talked about it i mean it was like no one 00:22:58.380 --> 00:23:00.740 no one cared yeah this is the first i'm hearing 00:23:00.740 --> 00:23:04.920 of it and i you know yeah we we we got to see 00:23:04.920 --> 00:23:07.500 the stranger things play in london and you know 00:23:07.500 --> 00:23:09.900 we i didn't even get to the episode where uh 00:23:09.900 --> 00:23:14.180 master of puppets comes out so i mean oh yes 00:23:14.180 --> 00:23:16.220 well that's season four season four was good 00:23:16.220 --> 00:23:23.319 but season five is definitely slow um i It's 00:23:23.319 --> 00:23:25.380 not to get in a whole discussion, but season 00:23:25.380 --> 00:23:28.380 five was a bit of a letdown for me. It's when 00:23:28.380 --> 00:23:31.319 I say it's slow. It was mentally slow for me. 00:23:31.359 --> 00:23:34.299 It's very fast paced. It's like it's all action 00:23:34.299 --> 00:23:38.079 almost the whole season. And it's just like, 00:23:38.079 --> 00:23:43.259 oh, the monsters. They don't have any, you know, 00:23:43.259 --> 00:23:47.180 in in season four. And I would say season one, 00:23:47.279 --> 00:23:49.819 two, there was a lot of character development. 00:23:50.519 --> 00:23:53.000 that I don't think they have in season five, 00:23:53.180 --> 00:23:55.880 which made it a little bit, you know, it's more 00:23:55.880 --> 00:23:59.740 fluff. It's more action. But I thought the last 00:23:59.740 --> 00:24:02.859 episode, they wrapped things up nicely. And that's 00:24:02.859 --> 00:24:05.359 where they feature the trooper by Iron Maiden, 00:24:05.440 --> 00:24:09.720 which no one even barely reported on. I mean, 00:24:09.720 --> 00:24:14.079 Iron Maiden put out a statement the day after 00:24:14.079 --> 00:24:18.359 the episode premiered on Netflix. But I mean, 00:24:18.380 --> 00:24:20.480 just the fact that you didn't even know. that 00:24:20.480 --> 00:24:23.200 was featured in there. It just speaks volumes. 00:24:23.299 --> 00:24:26.859 No one really made a big deal out of it. Yeah. 00:24:27.680 --> 00:24:30.319 What do you think about Iron Maiden putting on 00:24:30.319 --> 00:24:32.019 their own festival? They're going to be playing 00:24:32.019 --> 00:24:34.480 Neverworth celebrating their 50th anniversary. 00:24:34.779 --> 00:24:38.980 It's called Ed Fest, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, 00:24:39.039 --> 00:24:43.519 man. I think it's cool. I, who's on, I mean, 00:24:43.539 --> 00:24:47.799 I think who's on the bill with them. the darkness 00:24:47.799 --> 00:24:55.420 and yeah um but see see again you're saying that 00:24:55.420 --> 00:25:01.359 the darkness um damn it i should have pulled 00:25:01.359 --> 00:25:03.799 this up sooner but uh yeah i think it's great 00:25:03.799 --> 00:25:07.680 man i i mean why not i i i remember and i don't 00:25:07.680 --> 00:25:10.700 even know who the bands were but i remember looking 00:25:10.700 --> 00:25:13.279 at the bands that were performing and thinking 00:25:14.319 --> 00:25:16.400 Those aren't the bands true Iron Maiden fans 00:25:16.400 --> 00:25:18.819 want to hear. Like, I think they should have 00:25:18.819 --> 00:25:23.700 Queensryche on there. And, you know, groups like 00:25:23.700 --> 00:25:27.119 that, you know, Priest is probably too, maybe 00:25:27.119 --> 00:25:31.220 they're too big. But I remember reading the list 00:25:31.220 --> 00:25:33.220 of the bands that were playing and thinking they 00:25:33.220 --> 00:25:35.900 seemed a little off to me. But besides that, 00:25:36.079 --> 00:25:40.470 I think it's great to celebrate. Iron Maiden, 00:25:40.549 --> 00:25:44.150 you know, and have a festival like that. I mean, 00:25:44.170 --> 00:25:47.329 if they do it in the in my area here in the States, 00:25:47.430 --> 00:25:49.930 I'll, you know, definitely go to it if it's in 00:25:49.930 --> 00:25:52.589 New York City or New Jersey. It's awesome. It's 00:25:52.589 --> 00:25:56.029 awesome. Yeah. So why not? So it's Maiden of 00:25:56.029 --> 00:25:59.130 the Darkness, The Who, the Mongolian band, not 00:25:59.130 --> 00:26:01.789 the British. Right. Yeah. Which which means they're 00:26:01.789 --> 00:26:05.970 good. I've seen them open for Maiden. But again. 00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:09.859 I don't know, when I saw them open for Maiden, 00:26:09.859 --> 00:26:14.920 it was a pretty, the response from the audience 00:26:14.920 --> 00:26:17.059 wasn't overwhelming. Let's just put it that way. 00:26:17.140 --> 00:26:21.779 I think Maidenfest, you know, and it goes back, 00:26:22.279 --> 00:26:25.079 the who, they're going to attract, maybe they 00:26:25.079 --> 00:26:27.119 think, oh, they attract younger people and they're 00:26:27.119 --> 00:26:30.119 trying to stay with that vibe. But on the flip 00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:33.160 side, the people who are going to that concert 00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:36.799 who are in their 50s, they want to see Saxon. 00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:40.539 play with me and they want to see you know queens 00:26:40.539 --> 00:26:43.160 right it's like that those types of bands i think 00:26:43.160 --> 00:26:46.559 would get me personally more excited about it 00:26:46.559 --> 00:26:50.339 but um having said that and you know i feel like 00:26:50.339 --> 00:26:52.900 i'm in negative mode here this morning on your 00:26:52.900 --> 00:26:54.660 on your show something i'm not allowed to do 00:26:54.660 --> 00:27:00.740 on my my uh high profile platforms but so maybe 00:27:00.740 --> 00:27:02.980 uh maybe maybe that's why i'm doing it but um 00:27:03.849 --> 00:27:07.210 Yeah, man, I think I think it's great. They're 00:27:07.210 --> 00:27:09.910 doing it. I think it would be even greater if 00:27:09.910 --> 00:27:15.309 they had fans that really appeal to Iron Maiden's 00:27:15.309 --> 00:27:20.690 base fan base. Yeah, that makes sense to me. 00:27:20.730 --> 00:27:23.190 The other two are Airborne and the Almighty. 00:27:24.049 --> 00:27:27.730 But yeah, Almighty. Yeah, all those all those 00:27:27.730 --> 00:27:33.220 sound completely off brand to me. for a maiden 00:27:33.220 --> 00:27:35.859 show but listen it's their festival they put 00:27:35.859 --> 00:27:38.960 on who they want they they maybe you know that 00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:40.920 you know how these bands are that they're like 00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:42.960 oh we don't want motley crew doesn't want to 00:27:42.960 --> 00:27:46.920 do shows with like uh bands that they consider 00:27:46.920 --> 00:27:50.119 to be you know that's why they had joan jedd 00:27:50.119 --> 00:27:53.500 on the and they apparently didn't want poison 00:27:53.500 --> 00:27:56.539 but poison ended up on the the big deaf leopard 00:27:56.539 --> 00:27:59.579 motley crew tour a couple years ago you know 00:27:59.579 --> 00:28:03.140 they they all have their own They don't want 00:28:03.140 --> 00:28:09.319 to be perceived in a certain way. They feel like 00:28:09.319 --> 00:28:11.819 they're above the other. Motley Crue feel like 00:28:11.819 --> 00:28:13.680 they're above the other hair metal bands. So 00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:16.940 maybe Maiden Purposely is avoiding bands that 00:28:16.940 --> 00:28:22.619 are more, you know, more, what do you call it? 00:28:24.220 --> 00:28:26.940 Progressive metal or whatever. Yeah. I mean, 00:28:26.940 --> 00:28:30.059 to your point. if I want Iron Maiden to put on 00:28:30.059 --> 00:28:32.059 something like that, I want them, as you said, 00:28:32.140 --> 00:28:37.420 to play with Judas Priest, Scorpions, Armored 00:28:37.420 --> 00:28:43.579 Saint, things like that. But maybe it's off -brand. 00:28:43.700 --> 00:28:48.660 Maybe it's also them not wanting to get shown 00:28:48.660 --> 00:28:51.720 up by another band on stage. I mean, that probably 00:28:51.720 --> 00:28:58.599 wouldn't happen. people's feelings get hurt sometimes, 00:28:58.900 --> 00:29:02.480 you know, the priest toured eons ago. You would 00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:05.759 think that by this point, whatever happened back 00:29:05.759 --> 00:29:07.880 then would kind of be water under the bridge. 00:29:07.900 --> 00:29:10.519 If anything did happen, you know, but it's just 00:29:10.519 --> 00:29:13.640 a shame that that's something that I think fans 00:29:13.640 --> 00:29:16.039 have, have wanted to see for a long time. And 00:29:16.039 --> 00:29:20.339 yeah, I mean, Judas priest is probably going 00:29:20.339 --> 00:29:22.880 to cost a lot more. Right. That's another book 00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:29.180 than those bands. But but yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 00:29:30.059 --> 00:29:33.039 The other darkness might be cheap. I don't know. 00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:35.680 I'm not like a darkness fan, but, you know, I 00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:37.960 mean, they live over there. So, you know, there's 00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:40.279 you consider that type of stuff, too. They don't 00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:44.559 have to travel. Maybe. Could be they share. Yeah, 00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:47.240 I think it's an odd bunch of bands. Airborne, 00:29:47.380 --> 00:29:49.500 really, they freaking suck. I can't stand them. 00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:54.619 But, you know, it's like I think the whole idea 00:29:54.619 --> 00:29:57.519 of a maiden festival is great, though. Yeah. 00:29:57.839 --> 00:30:01.039 Airborne, I saw them once in a small club here. 00:30:01.140 --> 00:30:04.759 They were good in a small club, but to see them 00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:06.900 up on a big stage, I don't think it's the same. 00:30:08.539 --> 00:30:11.200 I just can't. Yeah, I've never seen them. So 00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:12.880 what do I know that maybe they're great live? 00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:15.359 I just can't stand listening to their music. 00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:20.519 I think they seem so generic and, you know, boring 00:30:20.519 --> 00:30:24.759 to me. But listen, maybe Maiden fans love Airborne. 00:30:24.839 --> 00:30:28.920 I don't know. I'm not one of them. OK, last topic 00:30:28.920 --> 00:30:30.619 that I wanted to talk about. This is actually 00:30:30.619 --> 00:30:36.160 something that. On my show, on this show, we 00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:41.700 talked about. Back in 2024, actually. Right, 00:30:41.819 --> 00:30:45.759 okay. When The Sphere came up, when you two started 00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:49.200 playing there, we did an episode where I had 00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:53.480 Ed Ferguson, and I believe Jeremy Weltman was 00:30:53.480 --> 00:30:55.880 on the show as well, and we talked about what 00:30:55.880 --> 00:30:59.839 metal bands we thought could take advantage of 00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:03.759 The Sphere with images, with the sound, so on 00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:07.220 and so forth. And we talked about Slayer. We 00:31:07.220 --> 00:31:11.880 talked about Maiden. Bruce has come out since 00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:14.400 to say that they would never do this fear because 00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:16.759 it would be too boring for them to just play 00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:20.339 in the same venue over and over again. We talked 00:31:20.339 --> 00:31:24.900 about maybe Kiss doing it. And we also talked 00:31:24.900 --> 00:31:28.460 about Metallica, who seemed to be the band that's... 00:31:28.910 --> 00:31:31.089 or not seem to be, they're the band that's actually 00:31:31.089 --> 00:31:33.569 going to be playing the Sphere now. It's been 00:31:33.569 --> 00:31:36.430 confirmed they're selling tickets and so on and 00:31:36.430 --> 00:31:40.730 so forth. What are your thoughts on Metallica 00:31:40.730 --> 00:31:42.589 playing there? Do you think that they're the 00:31:42.589 --> 00:31:46.250 right fit for that? And is that the type of show 00:31:46.250 --> 00:31:49.130 that would actually get you to travel and pay 00:31:49.130 --> 00:31:50.970 the amounts of money that they're asking for 00:31:50.970 --> 00:31:55.569 to see that show? Would that entice you? Oh, 00:31:55.589 --> 00:31:59.440 yeah. I want to go, man. Completely psyched about 00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:04.160 it. I think the venue looks really cool to me. 00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:15.099 I think Metallica has the hardcore fans and the 00:32:15.099 --> 00:32:19.079 casual fans who are willing to travel for that, 00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:22.039 which is obvious with the way tickets are selling 00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:25.319 and the prices they're going for. And I think 00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:28.940 that's a great. match for the sphere a venue 00:32:28.940 --> 00:32:34.420 I've never been to so I I can't speak to it uh 00:32:34.420 --> 00:32:37.940 with you know uh having experience with that 00:32:37.940 --> 00:32:42.680 venue but from what I see with the venue you 00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:44.599 know the clips and stuff it seems like it's a 00:32:44.599 --> 00:32:49.400 great match and and uh I I think I I'm excited 00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:51.740 by it I think it's I think it's awesome I think 00:32:51.740 --> 00:32:54.980 tool you know they've been Danny Carrier, that 00:32:54.980 --> 00:32:57.359 band, said they're discussing doing something 00:32:57.359 --> 00:32:59.980 there. I think that would be another band that 00:32:59.980 --> 00:33:04.240 would be a really good fit, especially with all 00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:08.960 their psychedelic overtones and stuff they have 00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:11.960 going on in the tunes. You could really do something 00:33:11.960 --> 00:33:15.220 fun with the imagery that goes on in that thing. 00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:19.039 So yeah, why not? I think it would be great. 00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:20.799 I think Metallica is going to be great. I hope 00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:26.089 I can get out there for it. Um, and, uh, I know 00:33:26.089 --> 00:33:29.630 it's expensive, but, uh, it sounds like it's 00:33:29.630 --> 00:33:33.269 a once in a lifetime opportunity because, uh, 00:33:33.390 --> 00:33:37.009 you know, the time is, is, is ticking for Metallica. 00:33:37.049 --> 00:33:39.730 Those guys are, you know, you get into your sixties, 00:33:39.750 --> 00:33:42.150 it's like, how much further are they going to 00:33:42.150 --> 00:33:46.670 be able to, uh, go on with, with, uh, playing 00:33:46.670 --> 00:33:50.960 live? I hope it's for a while, but, um, I think 00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:53.660 it's a very special thing for Metallica fans. 00:33:54.380 --> 00:33:58.880 Yeah, I, I agree. And let's be honest, they're 00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:01.920 the biggest metal band of all time. One of the 00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:04.380 biggest rock bands of all time. I think you're 00:34:04.380 --> 00:34:07.380 going to need that as well. Tool is another band 00:34:07.380 --> 00:34:10.679 that has a big diehard following where you'd 00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:14.480 be able to pull in people. And I mean, obviously 00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:18.219 Adam, I mean, two of no problem selling out, 00:34:18.280 --> 00:34:23.239 you know, arenas on for multiple nights in just 00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:29.139 about any uh area of of north america the world 00:34:29.139 --> 00:34:32.059 for that matter so i i think um they're definitely 00:34:32.059 --> 00:34:36.440 a group that would do very well at at the sphere 00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:40.179 and uh it's another band that i i would consider 00:34:40.179 --> 00:34:44.219 traveling to las vegas for you know i don't know 00:34:44.219 --> 00:34:46.440 if i'm going to be able if two will do it soon 00:34:46.440 --> 00:34:48.440 i don't know if i'm going to be able to go back 00:34:48.440 --> 00:34:51.320 for them if i go for maiden which could maybe 00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:53.960 have or not maiden i'm sorry metallica which 00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:57.739 could happen but um yeah we'll see any other 00:34:57.739 --> 00:35:00.739 any other band you think that would be able to 00:35:00.739 --> 00:35:04.139 play there i mean maybe acdc i mean i think you 00:35:04.139 --> 00:35:08.219 need a an upper echelon band in order to to do 00:35:08.219 --> 00:35:13.449 a considerable amount of dates there Yeah, I 00:35:13.449 --> 00:35:22.349 don't know. Sure, ACDC, they could be a possibility. 00:35:23.610 --> 00:35:31.829 I don't know. I don't know how I heard tickets 00:35:31.829 --> 00:35:36.110 for ACDC. They're playing stadiums this year 00:35:36.110 --> 00:35:42.070 in the States. Ticket sales have been a little 00:35:42.070 --> 00:35:44.130 soft so far for those. I don't know if that's 00:35:44.130 --> 00:35:52.909 accurate. So I don't know if they've, you know, 00:35:52.909 --> 00:35:55.389 how many nights they could do it this severe. 00:35:55.849 --> 00:36:01.030 Probably a bunch, I'm sure. But for me, they're 00:36:01.030 --> 00:36:03.110 not, I don't know. There's something about just 00:36:03.110 --> 00:36:10.860 their vibe, which. isn't in a real good fit with 00:36:10.860 --> 00:36:14.139 the sphere. However, again, I've never been to 00:36:14.139 --> 00:36:20.440 that venue. So, so I, I don't know. But they're, 00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:23.199 they're definitely still, still seem to be a 00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:26.059 stadium band. So yeah, of course they, they could 00:36:26.059 --> 00:36:31.000 probably do the, the sphere. Don't know. Any 00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:33.119 other that comes to mind that you think that 00:36:33.119 --> 00:36:40.099 could be a good fit there? Well, I mean, Phish, 00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:42.739 I'm not really a big Phish fan, but I know they 00:36:42.739 --> 00:36:45.579 played there and they seem like the type of band 00:36:45.579 --> 00:36:48.519 that would work well there with their jammy, 00:36:48.519 --> 00:36:50.780 psychedelic journeys that take place in their 00:36:50.780 --> 00:36:58.860 tunes. It's a tough question. I mean, I don't 00:36:58.860 --> 00:37:02.940 know. A lot of the bands that I like, I don't 00:37:02.940 --> 00:37:09.409 think are... popular enough to play there. You 00:37:09.409 --> 00:37:13.489 know, the new metal bands really are having a 00:37:13.489 --> 00:37:19.449 resurgence lately. So I'm sure Deftones or System 00:37:19.449 --> 00:37:24.090 of a Down or something could definitely do numerous 00:37:24.090 --> 00:37:27.510 nights at the Sphere. And I think those would 00:37:27.510 --> 00:37:30.050 definitely be good options. I think they would 00:37:30.050 --> 00:37:33.610 sell. And people would show up for those and 00:37:33.610 --> 00:37:37.030 they have music that lends itself to a visual 00:37:37.030 --> 00:37:41.670 experience. So I'll throw those bands in their 00:37:41.670 --> 00:37:46.690 Deftones system. Do you think that they would 00:37:46.690 --> 00:37:49.650 move towards doing a festival type thing there? 00:37:50.789 --> 00:37:55.170 I don't know. I don't know. Ozzfest at the Sphere? 00:37:55.769 --> 00:37:58.710 Who knows? It could be cool, right? You know, 00:37:58.710 --> 00:38:06.900 screens. with images going of Ozzy and Sabbath, 00:38:06.980 --> 00:38:09.300 you know, behind the bands that maybe cover their 00:38:09.300 --> 00:38:14.619 tunes. Yeah, man. I think, you know, I think 00:38:14.619 --> 00:38:18.440 there's a lot of possibility. Cool. Well, I do 00:38:18.440 --> 00:38:21.000 want to thank you for joining us today, Mark. 00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:23.619 Yeah. Thanks for having me. Where can people 00:38:23.619 --> 00:38:28.019 check your shows out again? Well, you know, I'm 00:38:28.019 --> 00:38:31.119 on SiriusXM. So if you want to subscribe to that, 00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:33.179 you can find me on three different channels there. 00:38:33.320 --> 00:38:36.500 But, you know, the stuff that's available for 00:38:36.500 --> 00:38:40.760 non -paying subscribers is TalkingMetal .com. 00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:43.460 That's where the podcasts get posted. 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