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Welcome one and all to the latest episode of

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Signals from Mars. This is episode 446 for those

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keeping score. I'm your host Victor and this

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is the 1980 episode where listeners and viewers

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of the show submitted their 10 favorite albums

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from 1980 and this is the countdown show. Did

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your favorites make the top 10? We'll find out

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trolls out there trolling it up in the comment

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section. uh, for various different platforms

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and people are bored. People want attention.

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Uh, all I'm saying is go there and let your true

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feelings be known and let's push some of these

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dopes aside. How about that? Um, yeah. So back

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to this episode, it is 1980. The way that it

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works, same as it ever was. Your number one gets

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10 points. Your number two gets nine points all

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the way down to number 10, which gets one point.

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I added up all the points associated to each

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album. And from there, we got the results that

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you'll be hearing during this episode. There's

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a lot of different albums that were voted on.

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The great majority that got voted on were in

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the top 10. I mean, that should come as no surprise

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to anyone. But the next countdown show that we're

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going to be doing will be our Hall of Fame episode.

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It will be year two for this. Keep an eye out

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for that. And I'll be sending around information

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with the list of bands that are already in the

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Hall of Fame and which ones you can vote for.

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Well, actually not which ones you can vote for.

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This isn't the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Not

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what those trolls do and get everyone all riled

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up every year. I'm not limiting it to whatever

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I think is eligible. I think you guys are knowledgeable

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enough with their music, with your music, to

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pick your 10 favorite bands that aren't in the

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Hall of Fame. But that episode will come later

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this month. In any event, let's get on with our

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1980 episode. Who ended up on top? Welcome one

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and all to the latest episode of Signals from

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Mars. I'm your host, Victor, and joining us is

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Jeremy in the UK, Ed in Kentucky, Brad Dahl in

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Idaho, and we have Metal Dan out in California.

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How's everyone doing tonight? Good, thanks. This

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afternoon. Well, tonight for me. afternoon for

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everyone else except for jeremy jeremy is is

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in the tonight zone as well but i'm doing better

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than usual because metal dan showed up well anytime

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shows up listening to me man they need some metal

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dan that's it death angel beer there you go that's

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awesome so it is is the beer actually death angel

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or is it uh just the glass The beer's from Hawaii.

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It's just a glass. Okay. But they have that,

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I think, too. Yeah, not sure. Anyway, we'll strike

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that and say that's apple juice, just in case

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if that messes with the algorithm. You know,

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you got to be careful. I'm finally getting some

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traction, and then something like that will end

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up. Hey, you use this word and drinking water.

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There you go. Yeah. Bubbly water. So anyway,

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so we're starting an hour early because I expect

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this to go late later than usual. And I think

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this will be an interesting discussion being

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that we do have a little extra time. I will run

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through 20 through 11 quickly before we get into

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the meat and potatoes. of the show. In total,

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there were 51 albums that were voted on. Let's

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see. Your internet's still working, people. All

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right, so we've tied with the most amount of

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votes for any of these shows. So that's kind

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of cool. Yeah. From the last one where it was

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like some of the worst turnout we get to this

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being the best. Well, in all fairness, I did

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start working on kind of rattling people's cages

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a few weeks back because I realized that unless

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you start bugging people that they don't take

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notice. Hey, look at that. We've got Anthony

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Mackie in the chat as well. Anthony, hope you're

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doing great. Rock on, man. Hey, I have a theory

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about why this is so popular, Victor. Why? Because

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1980? Incredible. I mean, the music that was

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released then. I mean, so many of these albums

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are just iconic and a huge part of all of our

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lives. Uh, I, I know at least my top 10, those

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are all albums that I had the vinyl and, um,

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yeah, I didn't have much money, but I still bought

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those records back then. Uh, you guys, you guys

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being a bit younger than me, who, who, who bought

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these albums in 1980? Yeah. Quite a few. Yeah.

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There you go. Yeah. Retire right there. In 1980

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or have we gotten... In 1980. I'm just saying

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when they were out. I remember going on the bus

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to buy one of them. I won't say which one yet

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because it might be in the top 10. So let's get

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on with it. And a lot of tape trading and a lot

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of borrowing. And that's the way it was back

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in that day. Yeah. We bought singles, of course,

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as well. We were buying a lot of singles off

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albums. Yeah. There's plenty of stuff that's

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on here. Well, not plenty. There's a few that

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we were lucky enough, and they were my brother's

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album. They weren't mine. I wasn't buying albums

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yet. Hey, Gabriel's a patron, so I don't know

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if I'm saying that right. A patron. Gabriel's

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a patron, so he counts. So if he bought them,

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good job, Gabe. Gabriel's my cousin, but that's

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all right. Oh, is he? Yes. Oh, wait, your brother.

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Wait a second. Starts with an A. Arturo. Oh,

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crap. I'm so sorry, but Gabriel's still a good

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guy. Absolutely. So we're starting to get the

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junk filtering in from kick already. Come to

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us. Yeah, okay, sure. Goodbye. That's a lyric.

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All right. So, yeah, so 51 albums voted on. Let

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me do 20 to 11 quickly. This is where we miss

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Johan to get all the frowns and annoyed faces.

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How could this not be in the top 10? We got Dan

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here to raise hell, so we don't need Johan. We

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ask we do. There's no doubt in my mind that maybe

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more than one of these people will chime in and

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say, why isn't that in the top 10? I'm trying

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to be nice today. Okay. Well, all right. So let's

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do, let's do. All right. So 20 is Alice Cooper

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with flush. The fashion 19 is except with I'm

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a rebel. 18 is an album that I had in 1980 that

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my brother had, uh, Pat Benatar's crimes of passion.

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Wow. 17. Whitesnake with Ready and Willing. Sixteen.

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Diamondhead with Lightning to the Nations. Oh,

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that's a good one. Fifteen. Rush with Permanent

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Waves. Waves is not in the top two. You sound

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more like Boris. I'm more winkle than you are

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there, Brad. Must get Moose Hens rush. Watch

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me pull this rabbit out of my hat. All right.

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14, Finn Lizzy with Chinatown. That was in the

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top 10 and was going in and out of the top 10.

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At 13, Saxon with wheels of steel. What? What?

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How is that not in the top 10? I was going to

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do the fashion show here. The wheels of steel

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shirt, man. So subconsciously, you knew not to

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wear it. No, I got five shirts here that I was

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hoping to be able to throw on. But this one obviously

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not going to happen. No? Okay. Unless another

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Saxon album gets in the air. You're going to

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be what? Michael Stipe from that year in the

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Video Music Awards, MTV Awards, where he was

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peeling off T -shirts between every award they

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were winning? All right. So at number 12, we

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have Jeff Leppard with On Through the Night.

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And at 11, I am so surprised that this got to

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11. But I will say this, from numbers 16 through

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11, actually 16 through 10, there's one point

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separating each album. Whoa. That's crazy. So

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it was very highly contested, 16 through 10.

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At number 11, it's Kiss with Unmasked. Wow, it

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made it that high. It made it that high. And

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it's funny because people were voting for it

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and they were telling me, yeah, I really like

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that album. I know that, you know, you're going

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to laugh at me. And I said, no, a lot of people

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voted for it. I'm laughing at all of them. It's

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got a couple of catchy tunes on there. A couple

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of catchy tunes shouldn't put you in the top

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20. It shouldn't be a great... All these great

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albums. Great albums. I mean, a couple of catchy

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tunes shouldn't... Mackie's upset it wasn't higher

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up on the list. Yeah, it seems like that, right?

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Yeah, so... Anyway, so let's get on into – go

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ahead. So in your – the 11 through 20, so one

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of those albums is the Pat Benatar album. Yes.

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Which at the time, man, it was – I mean, I don't

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know how many platinum or whatever, but it was

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a huge record in that – think about this is before

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Metallica. You had the song Hellos for Children.

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That was kind of considered heavy where that

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riff comes in and does all that. At the time,

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that was a really major, in my opinion, release

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of something different that hadn't come along.

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It was an important album. The curious thing

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about these 1980s is you have two albums released

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in one year. The good old days. You still had

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it up until then. This album, the Pat Benatar

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album, as you mentioned, I remember hit me with

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your best shot was the song that was played on

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the radio all the time. And I remember thinking,

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but hell is for children. That's the best song.

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It's got this super heavy guitar part. And, you

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know, and the way that she sings towards the

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end of the album as well, or towards the end

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of the song, I'm sorry. It was to me, it was

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heavy as hell. Yeah. And. The thing there was

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such an important album for, you know, being

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that she was a female artist and being that it

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was up there with a lot of, you know, big time

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rock albums. And we were mixing it up with all

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the stuff that we had at home. So, I mean, we

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would have the old vinyl with that long. You

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know, I don't remember what what that's called,

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what the center. of the turntable is called,

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but you could stack vinyls up and we would stack,

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we would go like seven vinyls deep and just let

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them play side A or side one on all of those

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albums. We'd listen to them all. We'd flip them

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all over and then listen to the other side. So

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it was one of the things that I've mentioned

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with the struck a nerve album was one of the

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things that I mentioned with the Wilhelm scream

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album is that Those albums are around 30 minutes

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long. And I remember there were so many albums

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back then that were like that. You know, the

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first few Van Halen albums are 28 minutes, 29,

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31 minutes, things like that. So you could listen

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to them in one sitting and flip them over and

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then flip them over again. You know, it wasn't

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you weren't just listening to. the one side because

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it was so long you just gave up on the album

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in the middle no you wanted to hear it again

00:18:30.819 --> 00:18:33.039
and it was so short that you got to listen to

00:18:33.039 --> 00:18:35.980
it again somebody on youtube commented no that's

00:18:35.980 --> 00:18:38.259
that's an ep because it's so short no it's an

00:18:38.259 --> 00:18:43.019
album you know an ep the maidens live in japan

00:18:43.019 --> 00:18:46.720
is an ep two songs on each side four songs that

00:18:46.720 --> 00:18:52.420
to me is an ep so so you know some of these doom

00:18:52.420 --> 00:18:55.259
and sludge metal albums that are Four songs,

00:18:55.460 --> 00:18:59.420
74 minutes. You can call that an EP because it's

00:18:59.420 --> 00:19:02.400
just four songs and each song is 20 some odd

00:19:02.400 --> 00:19:11.460
minutes long. Anyway, let's get on into the top

00:19:11.460 --> 00:19:16.640
10 here. And I will say that it's interesting

00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:20.119
looking at these lists, especially depending

00:19:20.119 --> 00:19:23.660
on where the votes are coming from geographically.

00:19:24.400 --> 00:19:28.420
Because of what bands are voted for. There are

00:19:28.420 --> 00:19:31.960
certain bands that stick out more in certain

00:19:31.960 --> 00:19:35.519
countries or areas where maybe they don't in

00:19:35.519 --> 00:19:42.099
others. I do think that. I'm not sure if there

00:19:42.099 --> 00:19:45.000
are really any surprises for anybody in the top

00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:47.400
10. Maybe the order is going to be a surprise.

00:19:49.480 --> 00:19:54.380
But number 10 sure as shit wasn't there. Earlier

00:19:54.380 --> 00:19:57.299
on this week, but as votes started coming in,

00:19:57.359 --> 00:20:00.859
uh, it, it rose through the ranks. It's actually

00:20:00.859 --> 00:20:03.779
an album that I voted for. So it is in my top

00:20:03.779 --> 00:20:08.960
10. Um, all right. So number 10, and I didn't

00:20:08.960 --> 00:20:11.740
do sound bites this time around. I, I just didn't

00:20:11.740 --> 00:20:19.099
have time to do it, but, um, all right. This

00:20:19.099 --> 00:20:23.940
album was released August. 29th, 1980 was recorded

00:20:23.940 --> 00:20:27.660
between May and July of 80. Wow. It was, it was

00:20:27.660 --> 00:20:30.480
recorded two months before and released the following

00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:36.079
month. That's crazy. Yeah. Uh, recorded Wessex

00:20:36.079 --> 00:20:40.579
in London, UK, uh, clocking in at a little under

00:20:40.579 --> 00:20:47.079
49 minutes, 39, 28 on Chrysalis produced by Roger

00:20:47.079 --> 00:20:54.009
Glover. Two singles were released. Armed and

00:20:54.009 --> 00:20:57.990
ready and cry for the nations. At number 10,

00:20:58.150 --> 00:21:04.589
it is. Oh, why is it coming up as a background,

00:21:04.769 --> 00:21:08.710
not as an overlay? I messed it up. This is why

00:21:08.710 --> 00:21:11.329
we shouldn't have self -driving cars. This is

00:21:11.329 --> 00:21:17.009
why you should, regardless of how much you prepare,

00:21:17.549 --> 00:21:23.269
you still end up. Screwing things up somehow.

00:21:25.230 --> 00:21:32.069
All right. So this album, by the way, while you're,

00:21:32.069 --> 00:21:34.950
while you're, Michael Shanker group, Michael

00:21:34.950 --> 00:21:39.430
group, this had Shanker and Gary Barden, Simon

00:21:39.430 --> 00:21:45.849
Phillips, Mo Foster, Don Airy on keyboards. And,

00:21:45.849 --> 00:21:52.329
oh, wow. They had a, 2009 reissue with demos

00:21:52.329 --> 00:21:56.009
and Denny Carmasi played drums on it. And then

00:21:56.009 --> 00:21:59.809
the reissue also has the classic lineup with

00:21:59.809 --> 00:22:02.970
Chris Glenn and Paul Raymond. And of course,

00:22:02.970 --> 00:22:05.789
cozy pal on drums, but go ahead, Brad. Sorry.

00:22:06.390 --> 00:22:10.210
No, no, no, no. You're good. This album, this

00:22:10.210 --> 00:22:12.509
album was huge for me. I mean, just flat out

00:22:12.509 --> 00:22:14.250
huge. Not only is it just a great album, but

00:22:14.250 --> 00:22:18.420
it was a time of my life. where I'd been laid

00:22:18.420 --> 00:22:21.720
up in a hospital for almost a month and couldn't

00:22:21.720 --> 00:22:26.940
hardly do anything. And I can't remember how

00:22:26.940 --> 00:22:28.279
I got the album, because obviously I didn't go

00:22:28.279 --> 00:22:30.460
out and get it. But I remember sitting there,

00:22:30.519 --> 00:22:33.440
where I was staying had a swimming pool. And

00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:35.500
I remember sitting out there with my Walkman

00:22:35.500 --> 00:22:39.440
cassette thing, those little crappy foam headphones,

00:22:39.900 --> 00:22:42.660
and my feet in the pool just listening to this

00:22:42.660 --> 00:22:47.440
album over and over. What a fantastic album.

00:22:48.460 --> 00:22:50.900
Just, I mean, from the get go, just the, the,

00:22:50.900 --> 00:22:54.140
the opening riff, um, cry for the nations. I

00:22:54.140 --> 00:22:56.740
love that song. I was always disappointed. They

00:22:56.740 --> 00:23:00.640
never played it with the intro. Um, Oh yeah.

00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:05.539
Well, Oh, with the, yeah, with the steel drums

00:23:05.539 --> 00:23:08.579
and all that. Yeah. With the little, little octobons,

00:23:08.640 --> 00:23:11.759
I think there, but, um, those are steel drums.

00:23:12.329 --> 00:23:15.549
Are you sure? Okay. Yeah. Simon Phillips is playing

00:23:15.549 --> 00:23:19.130
drums on this and he's just killing it. Well,

00:23:19.230 --> 00:23:22.809
there's drums that are overdubbed. So it's possible

00:23:22.809 --> 00:23:26.529
that he's using octobons, but there's steel drums

00:23:26.529 --> 00:23:32.190
in there as well. Yeah. Yeah. So 1980, and I

00:23:32.190 --> 00:23:33.990
can't remember when they toured. It must've been

00:23:33.990 --> 00:23:36.809
81, maybe. Played at the Country Club. You ever

00:23:36.809 --> 00:23:40.609
go there, Dan? Country Club? Yes, yes, yes, yes,

00:23:40.609 --> 00:23:44.150
yes. Love the place. Yes. Yeah. Fantastic. Till

00:23:44.150 --> 00:23:47.529
the end. It died because they lost their liquor

00:23:47.529 --> 00:23:51.710
license of selling to minors. And not cool. And

00:23:51.710 --> 00:23:55.069
it was a hike. It's a delay. It's way out there.

00:23:55.230 --> 00:23:58.569
But, man, some legendary shows there. Except

00:23:58.569 --> 00:24:04.369
Saxon, Manowar, Roxanne. I didn't get to see

00:24:04.369 --> 00:24:06.849
Metallica there. I was pissed that I didn't.

00:24:06.849 --> 00:24:10.930
But, yeah. Yeah. Great place. But anyway, so

00:24:10.930 --> 00:24:14.049
this this is also interesting thing was happening

00:24:14.049 --> 00:24:16.849
this year. This is when metal was becoming more

00:24:16.849 --> 00:24:20.710
of a fashion scene. You know, it's like you go

00:24:20.710 --> 00:24:23.069
to concerts in the 70s and hard, you know, Black

00:24:23.069 --> 00:24:25.009
Sabbath or whatever. People just wearing their

00:24:25.009 --> 00:24:28.349
T -shirts, jeans, whatever. But now you got people

00:24:28.349 --> 00:24:30.890
wearing leather, a lot of leather. I remember

00:24:30.890 --> 00:24:32.589
at this show was like, wow, this is really different.

00:24:32.750 --> 00:24:36.349
These people look like they're here for the fashion

00:24:36.349 --> 00:24:39.240
more than they are for the music. And the warm

00:24:39.240 --> 00:24:42.640
-up band was the Rubber City Rebels. You remember

00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:46.099
those guys at all? No, they're from Akron, Ohio,

00:24:46.240 --> 00:24:49.079
but they were basically playing all the clubs,

00:24:49.140 --> 00:24:50.980
and they'd moved to L .A. and were playing all

00:24:50.980 --> 00:24:53.160
the clubs there. So they got the warm -up slot,

00:24:53.299 --> 00:24:56.380
and they were kind of new wave -ish, I guess.

00:24:56.400 --> 00:24:58.789
They weren't hard rock. These poor guys, they

00:24:58.789 --> 00:25:01.589
got on stage, and I've never seen more people

00:25:01.589 --> 00:25:04.750
spitting at a band than that. And it was just

00:25:04.750 --> 00:25:06.650
disgusting. I remember some guy threw his drink,

00:25:06.690 --> 00:25:09.029
because they had the drink in glasses, because

00:25:09.029 --> 00:25:10.329
they had a bar there, you know, and you get a

00:25:10.329 --> 00:25:13.529
glass. Somebody threw their drink at him, luckily

00:25:13.529 --> 00:25:16.309
missed the singer, but hit Cozy Pal's drums.

00:25:18.309 --> 00:25:19.990
Yeah, I was like, what the hell is wrong with

00:25:19.990 --> 00:25:22.390
these people, man? I mean, you know, back in

00:25:22.390 --> 00:25:24.869
the old days, we would boo warm -up bands just

00:25:24.869 --> 00:25:27.190
because that was the thing to do. wouldn't throw

00:25:27.190 --> 00:25:30.589
crap at him. And it's like, this is, yeah, this

00:25:30.589 --> 00:25:32.970
is getting weird. So yeah, heavy metal was getting

00:25:32.970 --> 00:25:36.430
to be kind of a, uh, more of a club than a, uh,

00:25:36.569 --> 00:25:38.849
I don't know what you would call it, but, uh,

00:25:38.869 --> 00:25:41.809
anyway, it was, you had, yeah, I'm surprised

00:25:41.809 --> 00:25:43.849
that they didn't want to beat me up cause I wasn't

00:25:43.849 --> 00:25:47.049
wearing leather, but it was a great show. Great

00:25:47.049 --> 00:25:51.690
show. Great album. Definitely deserves to be

00:25:51.690 --> 00:25:57.670
in the top 10, right? Johan. Anyone else want

00:25:57.670 --> 00:26:02.250
to talk about this album? Yeah, I mean, I've

00:26:02.250 --> 00:26:05.130
still got my original copy of it, which says

00:26:05.130 --> 00:26:07.910
a lot, and I still play it quite a bit. So I

00:26:07.910 --> 00:26:10.470
like that one and I like the follow -up album.

00:26:10.670 --> 00:26:12.789
But I mean, this was amazing because obviously

00:26:12.789 --> 00:26:15.130
he was branching out on his own and I'd got used

00:26:15.130 --> 00:26:18.130
to him playing in the Scorpions and UFO before

00:26:18.130 --> 00:26:21.990
that. So I knew Michael Schenker quite well and

00:26:21.990 --> 00:26:24.450
I was very intrigued to hear what he was going

00:26:24.450 --> 00:26:28.940
to do. on a solo basis and to go into your local

00:26:28.940 --> 00:26:32.160
record store and pick up the album and not ever,

00:26:32.279 --> 00:26:35.640
you know, never heard a song off it and take

00:26:35.640 --> 00:26:39.500
it home and put it on and realize that this guy

00:26:39.500 --> 00:26:42.380
can play. I mean, there's some songs on there

00:26:42.380 --> 00:26:44.700
that are just amazing. Production -wise, maybe

00:26:44.700 --> 00:26:46.839
could have done with a little bit extra, a little

00:26:46.839 --> 00:26:49.799
bit of oomph on there. I don't know. Maybe it's

00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:53.720
just because it's an old album. But there's a

00:26:53.720 --> 00:26:56.039
lot of great songs on there, and it really showcases

00:26:56.039 --> 00:26:59.940
what a fantastic, melodic metal guitarist he

00:26:59.940 --> 00:27:02.359
was, Michael Schenker, and still is. But I don't

00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:07.240
think he's ever really playing now or recording

00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:09.519
the same sort of tracks that he was recording

00:27:09.519 --> 00:27:12.839
then. They were real classic songs that he was

00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:18.920
putting out on that album. Yeah, this album was

00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:21.319
huge for me, especially as a kid learning to

00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:25.960
play the drums. Armed and Ready, Cry for the

00:27:25.960 --> 00:27:29.440
Nation, Victims of Illusion, Feels Like a Good

00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:36.890
Thing, Into the Arena. And I'm pretty sure that

00:27:36.890 --> 00:27:39.450
I've tried to play Lost Horizons in the past

00:27:39.450 --> 00:27:43.930
as well. This was just a huge, huge album for

00:27:43.930 --> 00:27:47.349
me. Simon Phillips was just such a big deal because

00:27:47.349 --> 00:27:50.609
his playing on this is so different to a lot

00:27:50.609 --> 00:27:53.690
of other rock drummers. There are different rudiments

00:27:53.690 --> 00:27:57.569
and fills that he used that were probably a lot

00:27:57.569 --> 00:28:03.309
closer to... What I was doing in, you know, concert

00:28:03.309 --> 00:28:07.170
band or even marching band, a lot of his fills,

00:28:07.329 --> 00:28:10.549
a lot of his roles was very similar to that.

00:28:10.630 --> 00:28:14.269
So I would try different things out based on

00:28:14.269 --> 00:28:20.369
what I heard on this. The beginning of feels

00:28:20.369 --> 00:28:23.349
like a good thing is a very loose snare roll

00:28:23.349 --> 00:28:27.240
was totally different to anything that. you know,

00:28:27.259 --> 00:28:29.900
I had done before. So it was cool to try that

00:28:29.900 --> 00:28:34.859
and do it. And, and I mean, into the arena, which

00:28:34.859 --> 00:28:37.839
is, that's tailor -made for cozy pal to play

00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:42.119
live. I mean, just the beat is a very cozy pal

00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:46.119
-ish beat. It seemed like he was in mind when

00:28:46.119 --> 00:28:48.500
they wrote that and recorded it. I mean, that's,

00:28:48.500 --> 00:28:51.940
he's done that sort of beat so many times before.

00:28:52.180 --> 00:28:54.880
And it's something that I've always kind of copied.

00:28:55.500 --> 00:28:59.980
um, as a player. So just, just a really cool

00:28:59.980 --> 00:29:03.359
album. I'm so happy this made the, uh, top 10.

00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:06.359
I mean, it wasn't, it wasn't my number one, but

00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:10.160
it was, it was in my list. That's for sure. It

00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:18.859
was, um, how was it? Five, I believe five or

00:29:18.859 --> 00:29:26.650
five or six anyways. Yeah. Oh, cool. Great performances.

00:29:26.769 --> 00:29:30.549
That, that album just had the whole thing. I'll,

00:29:30.549 --> 00:29:33.490
I'll differ a little bit with Jeremy. I thought

00:29:33.490 --> 00:29:35.430
the production was actually okay for the time.

00:29:36.130 --> 00:29:38.170
I do like the production on the second album

00:29:38.170 --> 00:29:42.529
better, but yeah, but this, I never, I'm never

00:29:42.529 --> 00:29:44.849
disappointed by this album, putting it on it.

00:29:44.869 --> 00:29:48.250
Just of course, time of your life too, you know?

00:29:48.450 --> 00:29:53.279
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I think the second album

00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:58.019
overall, though, is this album is really good.

00:29:58.200 --> 00:30:02.019
I prefer the second album over this one. I do

00:30:02.019 --> 00:30:04.700
think that he's never come close to these first

00:30:04.700 --> 00:30:07.559
two albums ever again. As good as what he's put

00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:11.619
out afterwards, and he's got some good albums

00:30:11.619 --> 00:30:15.099
that he has released, they don't touch these

00:30:15.099 --> 00:30:19.700
first two albums. It's just not. And that second

00:30:19.700 --> 00:30:21.859
album, I think a lot of it also has to do with,

00:30:21.859 --> 00:30:26.240
again, that band that I mentioned that was playing

00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:30.359
this stuff live. Cozy Pal, Paul Raymond, and

00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:33.880
Chris Glenn. They had been out on tour. They

00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:38.099
wrote all those songs together. Ron Nevison did

00:30:38.099 --> 00:30:40.960
not make a Ron Nevison album, which is mostly

00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:43.720
known for having over -the -top keys and hoax

00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:46.960
and very pop -ish. That second album just does

00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:50.039
not have that. Anyway, we're getting off of 1980.

00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:57.299
Let's let's move on to number nine. All right.

00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:03.740
So this album came out in November of 1980, was

00:31:03.740 --> 00:31:07.519
recorded between May and August, recorded at

00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:11.920
Ramport Studios in London. It is 38 minutes long.

00:31:14.129 --> 00:31:19.490
was produced by Peter Hinton and the band. And

00:31:19.490 --> 00:31:23.210
there is only one single that was released off

00:31:23.210 --> 00:31:27.329
of this, and it is the title track. And because

00:31:27.329 --> 00:31:32.490
I'm not a huge fan of this band, I was shocked

00:31:32.490 --> 00:31:39.369
that this ended up at number nine. It is Saxon

00:31:39.369 --> 00:31:44.059
with Strong Arm. Of the law. I always thought

00:31:44.059 --> 00:31:47.559
that Wheels of Steel was the bigger album of

00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:53.160
the two. But as the fans are saying, no, that's

00:31:53.160 --> 00:32:03.460
not the case. Here we go. That's Wheels of Steel.

00:32:03.480 --> 00:32:06.240
That's not Strong Arm of the Law. That's all

00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:10.349
right. It's still Saxon. Oh, but the wheels of

00:32:10.349 --> 00:32:13.710
steel is number... I don't have a strong arm

00:32:13.710 --> 00:32:20.769
of the law. I'm a loser. It's so available. Well,

00:32:21.430 --> 00:32:30.849
you better have that by Monday. I only have like

00:32:30.849 --> 00:32:38.220
20 section shirts. So, you know, I didn't remember

00:32:38.220 --> 00:32:41.180
that Saxon had two albums in one year, but I

00:32:41.180 --> 00:32:43.660
did look at back and forth. And in my opinion,

00:32:43.660 --> 00:32:46.460
I weighed the songs and put this one higher.

00:32:48.920 --> 00:32:55.099
So where do you put it at, Brad? I put it one

00:32:55.099 --> 00:32:59.619
higher than Wheels of Steel. I think mostly the

00:32:59.619 --> 00:33:05.720
songs I thought were. And it was a better sounding

00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:12.680
album. Yeah, I probably listened to the album

00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:16.579
a lot more than Wheels of Steel. The funny thing

00:33:16.579 --> 00:33:20.079
is that I was living in Fresno at this time,

00:33:20.140 --> 00:33:23.759
I believe. And, I mean, you know, California

00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:27.039
back then, at least there especially, you couldn't

00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:30.279
find a Saxon album. I mean, it took me forever

00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:33.440
to find Wheels of Steel. And so this album never

00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:36.579
showed up in any record store. And then Denim

00:33:36.579 --> 00:33:38.500
and Leather showed up. And so I thought Denim

00:33:38.500 --> 00:33:41.700
and Leather was the follow -up album to Wheels

00:33:41.700 --> 00:33:44.559
of Steel. And then I went and saw them live at

00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:49.000
the Whiskey with Metallica warming up. Wow. 81,

00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:52.819
82 was right there in the winter. But they're

00:33:52.819 --> 00:33:57.680
playing all these songs off of A Strong Arm of

00:33:57.680 --> 00:33:59.950
the Law. And I'm like, I don't know these songs.

00:34:00.009 --> 00:34:04.869
This must be a new album that's coming out. Yeah,

00:34:05.009 --> 00:34:07.710
I had no idea that Strong Armor of the Law even

00:34:07.710 --> 00:34:13.309
existed. And when I did finally get it, I was

00:34:13.309 --> 00:34:16.130
like, oh, this album's just great. And yeah,

00:34:16.150 --> 00:34:25.800
cool stuff. Great album. Way to go, Saxon. That

00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:29.260
this album has one of the songs that Eddie Trunk

00:34:29.260 --> 00:34:34.199
would play the most by Saxon. He would play Dallas

00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:38.840
1PM. Oh, what a song. Great song. That's a great

00:34:38.840 --> 00:34:42.019
opener, man. I played that today, actually. Great

00:34:42.019 --> 00:34:45.719
song. Dan, I cut you off. What were you going

00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:50.199
to say? No, just Lars would follow the band around.

00:34:50.460 --> 00:34:53.699
He was worshiping all these, you know, Saxon

00:34:53.699 --> 00:34:56.869
and all these British. metal and set the stage

00:34:56.869 --> 00:34:59.150
for what their career is now. And it's just,

00:34:59.230 --> 00:35:03.469
I don't, I look back and like, I wish I could

00:35:03.469 --> 00:35:06.730
have been there and I was too young. I have the

00:35:06.730 --> 00:35:09.670
albums, but I was too young to go to these shows.

00:35:10.070 --> 00:35:13.550
Just that he set his career up by doing all this

00:35:13.550 --> 00:35:16.449
is, I just, it's great. I embellished it that

00:35:16.449 --> 00:35:19.449
he did that and he pulled it all off. So for

00:35:19.449 --> 00:35:22.449
Brad to be there at that whiskey show, I guess

00:35:22.449 --> 00:35:36.960
you're not a loser after all. All right. So,

00:35:39.260 --> 00:35:43.400
so yeah, when that show, by the way, I mean,

00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:48.920
I was there with a young lady and we were, we

00:35:48.920 --> 00:35:50.599
were down there trying to get up to the stage

00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:53.519
the best we could. And just rocking and rocking.

00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:57.460
And they played a long show. Near the end of

00:35:57.460 --> 00:36:01.079
the set, it kind of thinned out a bit. And I'm

00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:03.699
like, man, we couldn't stand anymore. So there's

00:36:03.699 --> 00:36:06.539
a booth in the back of the floor area there.

00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:08.539
So we went back there and sat on the top of the

00:36:08.539 --> 00:36:11.539
seat in the booth. And I just remember sitting

00:36:11.539 --> 00:36:14.659
back there singing along with Wheels of Steel,

00:36:14.820 --> 00:36:16.260
you know, because they do the sing -along thing.

00:36:16.730 --> 00:36:19.030
And my voice was totally shot at that point and

00:36:19.030 --> 00:36:22.710
just yelling as loud as I could. Wheels, wheels

00:36:22.710 --> 00:36:26.289
of steel. Oh, man, one of the best nights of

00:36:26.289 --> 00:36:30.690
my life. Just incredible. I got to see Saxon

00:36:30.690 --> 00:36:32.469
later at the country club, but I didn't. But

00:36:32.469 --> 00:36:34.869
that was years later. And I thought I was pretty

00:36:34.869 --> 00:36:37.489
special for that to come through. You are special,

00:36:37.789 --> 00:36:39.449
man. I wish I could have been there, but I was

00:36:39.449 --> 00:36:43.510
gone from L .A. at that point. So, yeah, yeah,

00:36:43.630 --> 00:36:47.460
it's pretty neat. Yeah. Yeah. Life is good, man.

00:36:47.500 --> 00:36:49.639
Life is good when you like metal fans. I'm just

00:36:49.639 --> 00:36:52.360
telling you, you get all these great memories.

00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:54.199
You get to hang out with all these great people.

00:36:54.579 --> 00:36:57.039
There's a there's no downside to being a metal

00:36:57.039 --> 00:36:59.380
fan, is there? Other than you spend a lot of

00:36:59.380 --> 00:37:04.639
money. And if you had at the time knew you could

00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:06.820
have gone back around the back of the building

00:37:06.820 --> 00:37:09.500
and met Lars and, you know, he was totally accessible

00:37:09.500 --> 00:37:13.539
then. And it's amazing to you. That's great.

00:37:14.949 --> 00:37:18.329
Yeah, if you had any kind of inkling what Metallica

00:37:18.329 --> 00:37:22.090
was going to be, I would have given them more

00:37:22.090 --> 00:37:25.510
attention. I was there for their full set, but

00:37:25.510 --> 00:37:27.610
they were teenagers. They looked like little

00:37:27.610 --> 00:37:30.949
kids. They all had acne, and they all had all

00:37:30.949 --> 00:37:33.730
their Iron Maiden swag on. And I thought, oh,

00:37:33.750 --> 00:37:35.369
these guys are just trying to be Iron Maiden,

00:37:35.429 --> 00:37:41.230
but they need a singer. That was my thought.

00:37:41.909 --> 00:37:45.260
That as well. Yeah. Sorry to eat up all the time

00:37:45.260 --> 00:37:51.300
on that one. No problem. Jeremy. Yeah. Just quickly.

00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:53.820
Yeah. I mean, I remember coming back on the bus

00:37:53.820 --> 00:37:57.280
with a copy of Strong on Mother Law, Gatefold

00:37:57.280 --> 00:37:59.460
Sleeve. I was really excited to bring it home.

00:37:59.539 --> 00:38:02.400
Had a free patch with it as well. A free Saxon

00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:05.829
patch, which was a real. drawer at the time and

00:38:05.829 --> 00:38:08.510
uh but i got home and i'll be perfectly honest

00:38:08.510 --> 00:38:10.550
with you i was a little bit disappointed because

00:38:10.550 --> 00:38:13.309
it wasn't wheels of steel bear in mind six months

00:38:13.309 --> 00:38:16.510
before i had this uh we were listening to wheels

00:38:16.510 --> 00:38:19.369
of steel and we were listening to 747 strangers

00:38:19.369 --> 00:38:21.750
in the night and those were really really good

00:38:21.750 --> 00:38:24.789
songs by saxon i felt that on this album they

00:38:24.789 --> 00:38:27.449
didn't quite have a song that was up to that

00:38:28.179 --> 00:38:31.380
at the time. But as I've got older and I've listened

00:38:31.380 --> 00:38:33.579
to it again and again, I do like this album.

00:38:33.699 --> 00:38:36.679
It's a really good album. And I love that song,

00:38:36.780 --> 00:38:39.539
Dallas 1PM. I think it's amazing. I mean, I listened

00:38:39.539 --> 00:38:41.980
to it again today. It's got that lovely bass

00:38:41.980 --> 00:38:45.300
beat to it. Um, and it's just incredible. And

00:38:45.300 --> 00:38:47.699
it's got obviously a real, uh, a little bit of

00:38:47.699 --> 00:38:51.460
the, uh, sound of the actual day when, uh, Kennedy

00:38:51.460 --> 00:38:54.139
got shot as well. So, I mean, it's, it's, um,

00:38:54.340 --> 00:38:56.539
you know, it's, it's a great, it's just a great

00:38:56.539 --> 00:38:58.460
thing that they released two albums in one year

00:38:58.460 --> 00:39:00.780
and they weren't really follower. It wasn't really

00:39:00.780 --> 00:39:03.460
a, you know, linked in any way. There were very,

00:39:03.579 --> 00:39:05.519
very separate albums. It wasn't like wheels of

00:39:05.519 --> 00:39:08.099
steel too. They were, you know, it was a, they

00:39:08.099 --> 00:39:10.980
moved on a little bit and that was great. So

00:39:10.980 --> 00:39:14.369
yeah, really, really enjoy it. And, you know,

00:39:14.389 --> 00:39:19.130
it's sort of built up the Saxon brand, as you'd

00:39:19.130 --> 00:39:22.630
say. They still play half of these songs almost

00:39:22.630 --> 00:39:25.130
every show. Yeah. Half of the songs off this

00:39:25.130 --> 00:39:29.230
album. It's pretty – it's really – Yeah, Heavy

00:39:29.230 --> 00:39:32.889
Metal Thunder. Heavy Metal Thunder, 20 ,000 Feet,

00:39:33.070 --> 00:39:37.170
Strong Arm of the Law, and Dallas 1PM. Yeah,

00:39:37.190 --> 00:39:40.230
there you go. And Metallica covers Saxon. It

00:39:40.230 --> 00:39:44.170
all comes around. And now Saxon covers Metallica.

00:39:45.289 --> 00:39:53.110
Wow. Again, it's a beautiful world we live in

00:39:53.110 --> 00:39:56.050
where us metal fans can live together in harmony.

00:39:57.889 --> 00:40:04.050
Ed, anything on Saxon? No. I listened to Saxon

00:40:04.050 --> 00:40:09.610
back when I was 14, 15 and had a collection of

00:40:09.610 --> 00:40:13.320
hard rock and heavy metal tapes. But as I got

00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:18.260
into Metallica and Anthrax and such, I haven't

00:40:18.260 --> 00:40:20.599
listened to them that much over the years since

00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:25.219
then. But I do recognize how great they are,

00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:28.659
very revered. They deserve all the honor they

00:40:28.659 --> 00:40:31.860
get. And it's awesome to see how they're still

00:40:31.860 --> 00:40:35.340
in the game and rocking and rolling after all

00:40:35.340 --> 00:40:38.349
these decades. That's the real amazing thing

00:40:38.349 --> 00:40:40.690
is that they're still doing it and doing it at

00:40:40.690 --> 00:40:43.650
a high level. They, they still perform. I mean,

00:40:43.670 --> 00:40:45.630
you don't go to the show and go, yeah, these

00:40:45.630 --> 00:40:48.489
guys are, you know, they're just barely getting

00:40:48.489 --> 00:40:52.030
it done. No, they're still getting it done. And

00:40:52.030 --> 00:40:54.969
their albums are still really, really good. Yeah.

00:40:55.269 --> 00:40:57.309
I thought the last tour was one of the best.

00:40:57.409 --> 00:41:02.550
I agree. I agree. I love that album. Yeah. And

00:41:02.550 --> 00:41:06.650
I think, I think Biff, right. He's quite the

00:41:06.650 --> 00:41:12.429
icon now as far as a rock and heavy metal vocalist.

00:41:14.230 --> 00:41:17.030
He's definitely one to be in the history books.

00:41:18.429 --> 00:41:21.809
Yeah, I met him on the cruise and he was standoffish

00:41:21.809 --> 00:41:23.909
as he should be because he doesn't need to deal

00:41:23.909 --> 00:41:29.349
with my bullshit. And it was awkward, but we

00:41:29.349 --> 00:41:32.449
got a photo for my wife with him. It's fine,

00:41:32.530 --> 00:41:35.849
Biff. You're allowed to be. It was a bit like

00:41:35.849 --> 00:41:37.670
that with me, but he's a typical Yorkshireman.

00:41:38.530 --> 00:41:42.550
Yorkshiremen are like that. Yeah. They take a

00:41:42.550 --> 00:41:45.289
while. You have to crack them. It's all good.

00:41:45.829 --> 00:41:48.889
Do they have a specific accent, Jeremy? Yeah,

00:41:48.909 --> 00:41:55.309
Yorkshire. Barnsley. All right. So moving on.

00:41:56.070 --> 00:42:00.329
Number eight. Number eight. is an album that

00:42:00.329 --> 00:42:03.789
was released the 31st of March, 1980, recorded

00:42:03.789 --> 00:42:10.190
between October 79 and February 80. Amongst the

00:42:10.190 --> 00:42:18.550
studio was recorded. Yeah. I think it is. Amongst

00:42:18.550 --> 00:42:21.750
the studios that were used was Mantis Sound in

00:42:21.750 --> 00:42:24.650
Toronto, Canada. Not going to say the other studio

00:42:24.650 --> 00:42:29.130
because it would be a dead giveaway. 3910 is

00:42:29.130 --> 00:42:32.230
what it clocked in at. It was on multiple labels

00:42:32.230 --> 00:42:37.650
depending on whether it was the US or Europe.

00:42:43.010 --> 00:42:46.789
Produced by... This is going to be the dead giveaway.

00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:52.280
Dieter Dirks, Singles Are, Ladies Starlight,

00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:58.920
Make It Real, and The Zoo. The album is, of course,

00:42:59.099 --> 00:43:07.059
Animal Magnetism by Scorpions. One of the best

00:43:07.059 --> 00:43:14.139
album covers ever. By album cover, you bought

00:43:14.139 --> 00:43:18.289
the album, but you bought the record. That's

00:43:18.289 --> 00:43:22.429
how you sell back in the day. Yeah. The one that

00:43:22.429 --> 00:43:24.550
preceded this love drive, that's when I kind

00:43:24.550 --> 00:43:28.250
of had to, I didn't want to leave it out on full

00:43:28.250 --> 00:43:34.469
display for my mom. We might've had an issue

00:43:34.469 --> 00:43:36.230
with that. Yeah. That cover is a bit awkward

00:43:36.230 --> 00:43:39.170
when you grow up and you have a daughter, you

00:43:39.170 --> 00:43:41.369
gotta keep that one hidden. I'm not sure many

00:43:41.369 --> 00:43:44.800
of these covers would get out. Every time you

00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:46.940
choose a whole show on the ScorePants album cover,

00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:52.360
it's good. But it's the music. It's the music

00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:55.800
that's important. Yeah. The music on this album

00:43:55.800 --> 00:43:58.679
is great. Who wants to talk about it? Let's go.

00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:03.380
Who's first up? Ed, talk about the music on Animal

00:44:03.380 --> 00:44:10.019
Magnetism. This is a solid album I listen to

00:44:10.019 --> 00:44:15.780
on a regular basis. You know, this Blackout,

00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:20.219
Love at First Sting, you know, that's a pretty

00:44:20.219 --> 00:44:23.119
great trio of records, beginning with this one.

00:44:23.579 --> 00:44:26.820
And The Zoo, of course, is probably one of their

00:44:26.820 --> 00:44:31.260
most popular songs, even with non -metalheads,

00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:36.780
I would think. But aside from that song, too,

00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:40.809
though, I mean, the whole record's great. Definitely

00:44:40.809 --> 00:44:42.329
one that you have to have in your collection

00:44:42.329 --> 00:44:49.170
if you're a collector of vinyl and such. Yeah,

00:44:49.190 --> 00:44:52.769
absolutely. Who else wants to talk about this

00:44:52.769 --> 00:44:55.630
one? It's still listenable today. The only thing

00:44:55.630 --> 00:44:57.730
is, is I've overplayed The Zoo. I've heard it

00:44:57.730 --> 00:45:01.869
too many times. So, you know, skip it. But it

00:45:01.869 --> 00:45:04.809
still stands up. And that shows why it's in the

00:45:04.809 --> 00:45:09.690
top 10 that it is. Okay. Anyone else? Yeah, I'd

00:45:09.690 --> 00:45:11.809
like to just sort of say, I think just generally,

00:45:11.869 --> 00:45:14.389
there's a bit of a difference between bands where

00:45:14.389 --> 00:45:16.809
we're talking about their debut albums and bands

00:45:16.809 --> 00:45:18.389
that have been around the block a little bit.

00:45:19.130 --> 00:45:21.769
And we'll probably get to this with a few other

00:45:21.769 --> 00:45:26.159
albums of higher up as well. But you can definitely

00:45:26.159 --> 00:45:29.360
tell this is a band that is well progressed in

00:45:29.360 --> 00:45:32.179
their career. So, you know, you've got great

00:45:32.179 --> 00:45:34.659
production, but you've got great songs and they've

00:45:34.659 --> 00:45:36.280
thought about what they're doing a little bit

00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:38.739
more. And it's not as raw as some of the, I mean,

00:45:38.780 --> 00:45:40.880
we've gone past Def Leppard already. You know,

00:45:40.900 --> 00:45:43.539
that was their debut album. We'll probably mention

00:45:43.539 --> 00:45:47.159
another one a bit later, which might be higher

00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:50.000
up because we love the band. But, you know, you

00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:52.260
can just tell with certain bands that they're

00:45:52.260 --> 00:45:55.230
further along in their, in their history and

00:45:55.230 --> 00:45:57.510
their career and that they, you know, they know

00:45:57.510 --> 00:45:59.929
what they're doing. Uh, and there's some good

00:45:59.929 --> 00:46:01.469
songs on there, you know, really good songs.

00:46:01.530 --> 00:46:03.889
I mean, yeah, like, like Dan just said, the zoo,

00:46:04.010 --> 00:46:06.070
you know, it's a bit overplayed song, but it's,

00:46:06.070 --> 00:46:07.909
it's fantastic. And I really liked it at the

00:46:07.909 --> 00:46:10.469
time. I just thought, wow, this is, this is amazing.

00:46:12.449 --> 00:46:15.190
I, uh, I'm forgetting though about love drive

00:46:15.190 --> 00:46:18.469
before that. Actually, it was a great, you know,

00:46:18.469 --> 00:46:22.590
four album run. Yeah. When I look at the track

00:46:22.590 --> 00:46:27.849
listing on, Love Drive, there's more kind of

00:46:27.849 --> 00:46:31.949
hit Scorpion songs on that one. I'm thinking

00:46:31.949 --> 00:46:37.590
I probably enjoy Love Drive more than Animal

00:46:37.590 --> 00:46:41.630
Magnetism, but it was still an album that hung

00:46:41.630 --> 00:46:44.510
right in there with it. And like I said, all

00:46:44.510 --> 00:46:48.230
four of those records were solid. There's nothing

00:46:48.230 --> 00:46:51.269
boring on any of those records that I can remember.

00:46:52.269 --> 00:46:56.449
Yeah, Make It Real is actually like the first

00:46:56.449 --> 00:46:58.750
single to break them in America. That was the

00:46:58.750 --> 00:47:01.130
first thing that got them on radio in the States.

00:47:02.050 --> 00:47:06.389
Was it? I didn't know that. Yeah, because before

00:47:06.389 --> 00:47:09.730
this, even up to Love Drive, this was the first

00:47:09.730 --> 00:47:12.110
album, if I'm not mistaken, that was released

00:47:12.110 --> 00:47:15.570
by the label. They were on what, Mercury? Yeah,

00:47:15.690 --> 00:47:17.690
this was the first album that you didn't have

00:47:17.690 --> 00:47:20.329
to get on import or that it wasn't released later

00:47:20.329 --> 00:47:26.079
on. In the States. And this, I mean, like you're

00:47:26.079 --> 00:47:29.099
saying with each album, they, they got bigger.

00:47:29.179 --> 00:47:34.079
I mean, blackout, you got no one like you on

00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:36.960
the radio all the time. You still hear that on

00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:40.280
the radio in the States. But then, I mean, obviously

00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:42.500
love at first thing took them to a completely

00:47:42.500 --> 00:47:46.090
different level. I often bring this up. People

00:47:46.090 --> 00:47:48.590
forget that at that point in time, they were

00:47:48.590 --> 00:47:52.650
possibly the biggest metal act in the world when

00:47:52.650 --> 00:47:55.710
Love at First Thing came out because that album

00:47:55.710 --> 00:47:59.710
was just so tremendous. And they were definitely

00:47:59.710 --> 00:48:03.869
on the same level of Priest and Maiden and probably

00:48:03.869 --> 00:48:06.190
bigger because Maiden was still playing. For

00:48:06.190 --> 00:48:08.909
example, in New York, they were playing Rock

00:48:08.909 --> 00:48:12.800
Radio City Music Hall. while Scorpions were already

00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:16.820
playing Madison Square Garden. So although Maiden

00:48:16.820 --> 00:48:20.980
probably overtook them a few years later, Scorpions

00:48:20.980 --> 00:48:26.099
on U .S. radio has more hits than Maiden or Priest.

00:48:26.380 --> 00:48:32.599
Oh, yeah. Yeah. So they've always kind of made

00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:36.860
it. They kind of like changed, you know, their

00:48:36.860 --> 00:48:39.760
sound on Love Drive, right? Yeah. That's where

00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:44.829
they kind of. Yeah. And they kept going strong

00:48:44.829 --> 00:48:47.750
on this one. Yeah. Of course, kept refining that

00:48:47.750 --> 00:48:50.929
sound until they came out with Love at First

00:48:50.929 --> 00:48:53.489
Sting. And then it was just, you know, they kept

00:48:53.489 --> 00:48:55.849
going all the way through. I remember 85, 86,

00:48:56.050 --> 00:48:58.389
listening to that Worldwide Live all the time.

00:48:58.869 --> 00:49:03.849
That was a great live record. Yeah. They were.

00:49:04.829 --> 00:49:07.409
Me and my friends were listening to them just

00:49:07.409 --> 00:49:09.809
as much as Maiden or anything else. Yeah, yeah,

00:49:09.889 --> 00:49:13.130
absolutely. I mean, I'll, well, again, we're

00:49:13.130 --> 00:49:19.150
getting beyond 1980 here, but for a very long

00:49:19.150 --> 00:49:21.570
time in my youth, every time that you walked

00:49:21.570 --> 00:49:26.469
down the strip or all the bars and stuff were

00:49:26.469 --> 00:49:32.559
in the next town over, you were hearing. one

00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:35.860
of the big songs off of uh love at first thing

00:49:35.860 --> 00:49:40.519
at least when you were passing a bar you know

00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:42.880
you were either hearing big city nights or bad

00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:45.760
boys running wild and that's without even counting

00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:49.539
on still loving you being played every single

00:49:49.539 --> 00:49:53.440
day and every single night at the bar so The

00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:55.380
interesting thing, Victor, about this album as

00:49:55.380 --> 00:49:58.019
well is that the production is so amazing. I

00:49:58.019 --> 00:50:00.840
mean, there are very few albums of 1980 that

00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:04.559
have a production like this, I think. Yeah, and

00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:08.320
that's why with the Shanker album, I checked

00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:11.360
who the producer was, especially for the second

00:50:11.360 --> 00:50:14.739
album, because we often talk about the amazing

00:50:14.739 --> 00:50:17.820
production that Priest and Maiden have during

00:50:17.820 --> 00:50:23.610
this time period. Dieter Dirks did a lot of good

00:50:23.610 --> 00:50:27.329
work with Scorpions. I mean, you listen to those

00:50:27.329 --> 00:50:30.989
albums, and I don't know if he did Savage Amusement

00:50:30.989 --> 00:50:35.949
or not, but that's like the first. He did? He

00:50:35.949 --> 00:50:38.969
did, yeah. Okay, but that's kind of the first

00:50:38.969 --> 00:50:44.349
one there where you realize that, okay, well,

00:50:44.429 --> 00:50:46.829
they're kind of going away from that sound. If

00:50:46.829 --> 00:50:51.030
you really listen to the band's sound. Those

00:50:51.030 --> 00:50:53.869
four albums that Ed mentioned all more or less

00:50:53.869 --> 00:50:56.090
have the same sound. I think maybe Love Drive

00:50:56.090 --> 00:51:00.170
isn't as lively as the others maybe, but definitely

00:51:00.170 --> 00:51:02.690
Animal Magnetism through Love at First Thing

00:51:02.690 --> 00:51:07.469
have a definite sound to them. And that's so

00:51:07.469 --> 00:51:11.449
important to making these songs not sound dated.

00:51:11.590 --> 00:51:13.329
I mean, we've heard a lot of these songs a million

00:51:13.329 --> 00:51:18.130
times, like Dan said, The Zoo. But even still,

00:51:18.190 --> 00:51:22.869
if you turn it on from time to time, If you play

00:51:22.869 --> 00:51:25.510
this for somebody that isn't as knowledgeable

00:51:25.510 --> 00:51:27.849
in all this stuff and isn't a nerd like we are

00:51:27.849 --> 00:51:30.429
with all this stuff, they wouldn't be able to

00:51:30.429 --> 00:51:32.829
tell you, oh, yeah, that, you know, the zoo came

00:51:32.829 --> 00:51:41.070
out in 1980. No, that's true. So we have Sean

00:51:41.070 --> 00:51:43.210
Richmond joining us in the chat as well. Sean,

00:51:43.449 --> 00:51:47.570
hope you're having a great night. Also in the

00:51:47.570 --> 00:51:53.400
UK. Let's move on here. Sean, Sean, you watching

00:51:53.400 --> 00:52:01.119
this in bed? We're going there again. Number

00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:07.260
seven. All right. Number seven. I was released

00:52:07.260 --> 00:52:11.300
in October of 1980, recorded between August and

00:52:11.300 --> 00:52:19.219
September of 1980 in studios in. All right. Get

00:52:19.219 --> 00:52:24.099
ready for Jeremy to yell at me. Rickmansworth,

00:52:24.360 --> 00:52:27.579
England. Oh, that sounded good. It was good.

00:52:27.659 --> 00:52:34.579
All right. Awesome. Sean, we hope that our lovely

00:52:34.579 --> 00:52:37.539
voices help you get a full night's sleep and

00:52:37.539 --> 00:52:40.119
that it makes your work tomorrow more pleasurable.

00:52:41.039 --> 00:52:45.719
The album clocks in at 36 minutes, 42 seconds.

00:52:46.989 --> 00:52:50.170
The label was bronze. It's probably going to

00:52:50.170 --> 00:52:52.630
be a giveaway with that. Producer is Vic male.

00:52:54.849 --> 00:52:58.550
One single off of this, which is the band's biggest

00:52:58.550 --> 00:53:04.670
claim to fame. But this album has so many songs

00:53:04.670 --> 00:53:07.929
off of it that just got stuck in your head. It's

00:53:07.929 --> 00:53:11.809
just got that mix of dirtiness and melody and

00:53:11.809 --> 00:53:17.070
just so many things that make this band. As legendary

00:53:17.070 --> 00:53:24.090
as they are. Is it Kansas? Yeah. By Motorhead.

00:53:26.530 --> 00:53:29.170
Ed, you were saying yes while I was describing

00:53:29.170 --> 00:53:34.530
this. You obviously knew what it was. Yeah. Oh,

00:53:34.530 --> 00:53:38.730
yeah. What are your thoughts on this album? Well,

00:53:38.829 --> 00:53:44.730
it's the mighty Motorhead and Father Lemmy. Man.

00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:48.820
So this is the record that has, you know, the

00:53:48.820 --> 00:53:51.440
title track Ace of Spades, which is one of the

00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:55.619
most iconic songs, period. Not just in the hard

00:53:55.619 --> 00:53:58.960
rock and metal world, but I think period. Everybody

00:53:58.960 --> 00:54:03.199
knows this tune. You know, when I, of course,

00:54:03.280 --> 00:54:06.460
with a lot of these years that we're discussing,

00:54:06.800 --> 00:54:12.860
I was being, you know, sheltered by my parents

00:54:12.860 --> 00:54:17.000
from all this music. So for me, my introduction

00:54:17.000 --> 00:54:20.079
to a lot of this music was in my earlier teen

00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:22.380
years when I was finally getting my hands on

00:54:22.380 --> 00:54:24.679
some cassettes that I snuck in the house or hearing

00:54:24.679 --> 00:54:28.579
things at friends' homes. And so it was me listening

00:54:28.579 --> 00:54:31.800
back on things that I had missed. Motorhead being

00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:34.940
one of them, I remember being at the mall one

00:54:34.940 --> 00:54:38.960
day and finding the No Life Till leather, and

00:54:38.960 --> 00:54:43.039
it had a leather cover for the cassette that

00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:46.079
you slip it into. So I bought that and snuck

00:54:46.079 --> 00:54:49.719
it home. And it had, you know, all those great

00:54:49.719 --> 00:54:53.039
tracks that you were talking about on that compilation.

00:54:54.139 --> 00:54:57.659
So I was listening to most of these songs on

00:54:57.659 --> 00:55:00.980
that compilation for years. Now that I've got,

00:55:00.980 --> 00:55:03.460
you know, my vinyl collection going, I've got

00:55:03.460 --> 00:55:06.380
those records that I can listen to in full now.

00:55:06.579 --> 00:55:08.639
And pretty much, I mean, any of these Motorhead

00:55:08.639 --> 00:55:11.539
records you put on, not only are they great,

00:55:11.699 --> 00:55:14.730
but they're also... You'll hear the inspiration

00:55:14.730 --> 00:55:17.650
for all the thrash metal bands that we grew up

00:55:17.650 --> 00:55:21.630
with. Even though, I mean, Lemmy didn't even

00:55:21.630 --> 00:55:24.230
like being called a heavy metal band from what

00:55:24.230 --> 00:55:27.269
I understand. But like it or not, he was heavy

00:55:27.269 --> 00:55:31.010
metal and he influenced thrash metal just as

00:55:31.010 --> 00:55:35.190
much as a band like Discharge did. Yeah, probably

00:55:35.190 --> 00:55:39.949
more. Yeah. Yeah, he was always good at saying.

00:55:40.539 --> 00:55:46.039
We are Motorhead and we play rock and roll. But

00:55:46.039 --> 00:55:48.260
again, what a trio of records, you know, with

00:55:48.260 --> 00:55:53.780
Overkill and Bomber and Ace of Spades. I mean,

00:55:53.780 --> 00:55:55.900
man, they really knocked it out of the park there.

00:55:58.440 --> 00:56:03.639
Absolutely. Yeah. Anthony's saying no remorse.

00:56:03.659 --> 00:56:05.920
No remorse. Someone actually voted for that.

00:56:05.940 --> 00:56:10.570
It actually came out in 84. It was half new tracks

00:56:10.570 --> 00:56:16.889
and half greatest hits. Yeah, this is on my top

00:56:16.889 --> 00:56:21.010
10 as well. Obviously, everyone knows the title

00:56:21.010 --> 00:56:25.050
track, but I mean, for me... What were you going

00:56:25.050 --> 00:56:27.710
to say, Ed? He just corrected me. That compilation

00:56:27.710 --> 00:56:30.309
is No Remorse, right? But No Life to Leather

00:56:30.309 --> 00:56:33.449
was one of the live albums. No Life to Leather

00:56:33.449 --> 00:56:38.340
is Metallica. What am I saying? Yeah. Good thing

00:56:38.340 --> 00:56:43.900
you guys are here to set me straight. At least

00:56:43.900 --> 00:56:45.699
you know what I'm talking about. That compilation

00:56:45.699 --> 00:56:49.119
from 1984 that had the leather cover. Yeah. That

00:56:49.119 --> 00:56:54.599
was it. Yeah. The live albums are No Sleep Till

00:56:54.599 --> 00:56:57.039
Hammersmith, No Sleep At All. That's what I'm

00:56:57.039 --> 00:56:59.219
trying to say. Hammersmith. That's right. Yeah.

00:56:59.239 --> 00:57:03.719
Yeah. I knew it was in there somewhere. I actually

00:57:03.719 --> 00:57:08.010
went past the Hammersmith. limo driver that drove

00:57:08.010 --> 00:57:11.989
us into London pointed it out to me. He said,

00:57:12.030 --> 00:57:14.889
yeah, we're in Hammersmith. I'm like, oh, is

00:57:14.889 --> 00:57:17.110
the Odeon on the way? And he's like, yeah, it's

00:57:17.110 --> 00:57:21.090
over there, but it's called the whatever. It's

00:57:21.090 --> 00:57:24.090
not Hammersmith Odeon anymore. It's Hammersmith

00:57:24.090 --> 00:57:29.449
something else. I forget. Anyway, so yeah, so

00:57:29.449 --> 00:57:32.920
outside of the title track. There's so many songs

00:57:32.920 --> 00:57:35.079
that I've played off of this over the years.

00:57:35.139 --> 00:57:37.280
Love Me Like a Reptile, Shoot You in the Back,

00:57:37.559 --> 00:57:40.960
Fast and Loose, We Are the Road Crew, Jailbait,

00:57:41.239 --> 00:57:44.380
and The Chase is Better Than the Catch, which

00:57:44.380 --> 00:57:46.699
is the longest song on the album at 4 minutes

00:57:46.699 --> 00:57:51.599
18. Most of these songs aren't even three minutes

00:57:51.599 --> 00:57:57.360
and a half. The majority are, you know, Ace of

00:57:57.360 --> 00:58:01.019
Spades isn't even three minutes. So it was a

00:58:01.019 --> 00:58:04.400
short album, short, short album. Absolutely.

00:58:04.440 --> 00:58:08.900
36 minutes, 42 seconds. I mean, none of these

00:58:08.900 --> 00:58:15.179
songs are making it on Sinjitsu or, uh, book

00:58:15.179 --> 00:58:19.000
of book of souls, because, you know, you could

00:58:19.000 --> 00:58:22.139
fit one of these, you could fit the entire album

00:58:22.139 --> 00:58:25.659
on one of those. So one of those vinyl sides,

00:58:25.820 --> 00:58:30.690
but anyway, anyone else? Hey, ask Sean Richmond,

00:58:30.949 --> 00:58:36.690
does he still have that? He said he had the Motorhead

00:58:36.690 --> 00:58:40.929
No Remorse double vinyl, and apparently his had

00:58:40.929 --> 00:58:46.449
a leather cover too. So let us know if you still

00:58:46.449 --> 00:58:50.090
have that. I do. All right, cool. All right,

00:58:50.090 --> 00:58:53.809
so he's telling us that is the Labatt's Apollo.

00:58:55.079 --> 00:59:03.260
Is that Labatt's beer like it is in Canada? So

00:59:03.260 --> 00:59:08.179
I like Motorhead, but this album is not in my

00:59:08.179 --> 00:59:10.900
top 10. It's something that I don't listen to

00:59:10.900 --> 00:59:13.519
a lot. I listen to selective songs. It's not

00:59:13.519 --> 00:59:17.960
a perfect album. I can't win any fans with this.

00:59:18.019 --> 00:59:20.800
My opinion is different. I don't love Motorhead.

00:59:20.840 --> 00:59:23.519
I appreciate Motorhead. I've seen Motorhead.

00:59:24.110 --> 00:59:28.130
I have a Lemmy pick. I've been up front. They've

00:59:28.130 --> 00:59:31.389
supported many shows that I've been to. I don't

00:59:31.389 --> 00:59:33.750
think I've ever been to a headline Motorhead

00:59:33.750 --> 00:59:37.050
show. So that shows my status or my appreciation

00:59:37.050 --> 00:59:43.550
of them. So this album for me is a skip. Okay.

00:59:43.889 --> 00:59:47.309
I've seen them once. I've seen them with Saxon

00:59:47.309 --> 00:59:54.030
and Judas Priest. Wow. Great gig. So. Anyone

00:59:54.030 --> 00:59:58.869
else want to discuss this album? All right. Let

00:59:58.869 --> 01:00:05.750
us move along then. So at number... Number six.

01:00:08.289 --> 01:00:13.190
This album I have on vinyl twice. And having

01:00:13.190 --> 01:00:17.150
said that, it didn't make my top ten out of it.

01:00:17.590 --> 01:00:21.519
It was a difficult choice. It was funny because

01:00:21.519 --> 01:00:24.739
Jeremy asked me, no, it isn't my top 10. Okay.

01:00:25.719 --> 01:00:27.400
You know, just because an album doesn't make

01:00:27.400 --> 01:00:29.219
your top 10 for this year doesn't mean it's not

01:00:29.219 --> 01:00:32.079
a great album because there's so many great albums.

01:00:32.280 --> 01:00:35.940
Yeah, yeah, yeah. This was one of those where

01:00:35.940 --> 01:00:40.840
I'm like, do I like this as much as the Shankar

01:00:40.840 --> 01:00:43.420
album, for example? You know, that to me is an

01:00:43.420 --> 01:00:45.780
album that I've listened to a lot. And this next

01:00:45.780 --> 01:00:48.480
album, I really like. I've listened to it a lot.

01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:51.840
but is it one of their albums that I still reach

01:00:51.840 --> 01:00:55.099
for now? It isn't. Is it one that I listened

01:00:55.099 --> 01:00:58.139
to a lot when my brother brought the original

01:00:58.139 --> 01:01:01.800
vinyl home? We listened to it, but I still listened

01:01:01.800 --> 01:01:04.860
to another album by the band more than this album.

01:01:05.059 --> 01:01:10.639
So anyway, this was released March 26th, 1980,

01:01:10.920 --> 01:01:14.460
was recorded between December 79 and February

01:01:14.460 --> 01:01:19.840
of 80. Recorded at Sunset Sound, Hollywood, California.

01:01:20.900 --> 01:01:26.780
Clocking in at 33 minutes, 35 seconds. The producer

01:01:26.780 --> 01:01:33.159
will give this away. Fred Templeman. And it says

01:01:33.159 --> 01:01:35.739
that there was only one single release, which

01:01:35.739 --> 01:01:39.940
is and the cradle will rock. But everybody wants

01:01:39.940 --> 01:01:43.139
some gets played just as much on the radio, at

01:01:43.139 --> 01:01:48.239
least in the States. It does. I'd say more. You

01:01:48.239 --> 01:01:52.000
think? Well, here. In the West, yeah, definitely.

01:01:52.519 --> 01:01:54.599
How much does the movie Better Off Dead have

01:01:54.599 --> 01:01:58.599
to do with that? Ooh, yeah. That's great. That's

01:01:58.599 --> 01:02:01.079
a great part of the movie. Van Halen, Women and

01:02:01.079 --> 01:02:05.500
Children first. Great album cover. Fucking iconic

01:02:05.500 --> 01:02:10.500
photo. Badass. Whoever figured that out to do

01:02:10.500 --> 01:02:14.909
that. Genius. How do you do that? Eddie with

01:02:14.909 --> 01:02:22.150
the shark. Damn. Toratora. Loss of control. Take

01:02:22.150 --> 01:02:24.030
your whiskey home. See, this is a perfect album.

01:02:24.110 --> 01:02:26.389
This is my difference between this and Motorhead.

01:02:26.550 --> 01:02:29.309
This is what I'm, you know, and it still sounds

01:02:29.309 --> 01:02:32.449
great today as it did back in the day. Still

01:02:32.449 --> 01:02:36.289
play it today all the way through. So I'm a different

01:02:36.289 --> 01:02:40.309
type of listener. It's a really good album. I'm

01:02:40.309 --> 01:02:43.260
not going to say it isn't. Just that I think

01:02:43.260 --> 01:02:49.659
with me, I love Fair Warning so much that if

01:02:49.659 --> 01:02:52.880
I'm ever in the mood to listen to anything Van

01:02:52.880 --> 01:02:56.400
Halen -ish, I'm going for either Van Halen 2

01:02:56.400 --> 01:03:01.179
or Fair Warning personally. But this album is

01:03:01.179 --> 01:03:04.199
great. I remember my brother getting this and

01:03:04.199 --> 01:03:07.239
I was like, what is this? This is completely

01:03:07.239 --> 01:03:10.000
different to anything that we were listening

01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:12.579
to. And then he got fair warning on cassette,

01:03:12.760 --> 01:03:16.860
and that just kind of took me away. So, again,

01:03:17.380 --> 01:03:19.679
as we mentioned before, just place and time and

01:03:19.679 --> 01:03:22.400
just memories and connections with certain things.

01:03:22.940 --> 01:03:25.519
Summertime, California, this is what goes on.

01:03:25.599 --> 01:03:28.000
When it's warm weather like it is today, this

01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:31.360
is what we listen to. That's where I came from.

01:03:31.699 --> 01:03:34.000
That's where I grew up. Difference to Motorhead,

01:03:34.099 --> 01:03:38.170
I didn't grow up in England. In a simple rhyme,

01:03:38.409 --> 01:03:41.670
could this be magic? It's all there. Perfect.

01:03:43.369 --> 01:03:47.849
Romeo, Delight is a great song as well. I've

01:03:47.849 --> 01:03:51.429
often watched these last few years after Eddie

01:03:51.429 --> 01:03:56.630
has passed away, Mr. Bungle's cover of Loss of

01:03:56.630 --> 01:04:01.289
Control, which I've always thought was just ridiculously

01:04:01.289 --> 01:04:04.829
good. Hearing Dave Lombardo play Alex Van Halen's

01:04:04.829 --> 01:04:09.599
parts. And then just having them pull the rest

01:04:09.599 --> 01:04:12.820
of the song off, I think it's great. Anyone else

01:04:12.820 --> 01:04:14.699
want to talk about Women and Children first?

01:04:20.420 --> 01:04:24.699
All right. Edgar Winterson. How dare you start

01:04:24.699 --> 01:04:29.159
an hour early? He didn't get the memo. He didn't

01:04:29.159 --> 01:04:31.300
get the memo. I was going to say that, Edgar.

01:04:31.380 --> 01:04:35.469
I did publish it. See? Another reason for you

01:04:35.469 --> 01:04:39.570
to become a patron is. Yeah. And you could be,

01:04:39.570 --> 01:04:42.170
you could be right here in this box, right here,

01:04:42.170 --> 01:04:46.130
Edgar, right next, right next to me. Yeah. So

01:04:46.130 --> 01:04:51.309
let's recap 10 through five or 10 through six

01:04:51.309 --> 01:04:54.909
before jumping on into the top five, just for

01:04:54.909 --> 01:05:03.900
you, Edgar. Yeah, that movie is what I mentioned

01:05:03.900 --> 01:05:07.619
before, Anthony, is Better Off Dead is the movie

01:05:07.619 --> 01:05:11.719
with John Cusack. I actually bought that on DVD

01:05:11.719 --> 01:05:15.519
just so my kids could watch it. It's great. Yeah,

01:05:15.699 --> 01:05:21.139
I have it. But it didn't have Spanish subtitles,

01:05:21.380 --> 01:05:23.599
so I had to find it with subtitles so my wife

01:05:23.599 --> 01:05:27.420
could watch it. Anyway. All right. So number

01:05:27.420 --> 01:05:30.300
10 was Michael Shanker Group with Michael Shanker

01:05:30.300 --> 01:05:34.199
Group. Number nine, Saxon with Strong Arm of

01:05:34.199 --> 01:05:38.619
the Law. Number eight, Scorpions with Animal

01:05:38.619 --> 01:05:42.900
Magnetism. Seven, Motorhead with Ace of Spades.

01:05:43.179 --> 01:05:47.780
Six, Van Halen with Women and Children First.

01:05:48.579 --> 01:06:00.860
And at number five. Number five. Let's see. Number

01:06:00.860 --> 01:06:08.239
five. Released in April of 1980. So it's going

01:06:08.239 --> 01:06:17.000
to be, what, 46 in two months? Yeah. Recorded

01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:21.820
between December and January, 79, 80. Recorded

01:06:21.820 --> 01:06:27.079
at Kingsway, London. Locking in at 37 minutes.

01:06:28.030 --> 01:06:37.949
39 seconds. Producer Will Malone. Oh, it's an

01:06:37.949 --> 01:06:43.610
album cover. There were two singles, and this

01:06:43.610 --> 01:06:46.030
came out on EMI. I'm going to give it away in

01:06:46.030 --> 01:06:50.730
a second anyway. The two singles were Running

01:06:50.730 --> 01:06:56.949
Free and Sanctuary. I have both behind me. It's

01:06:56.949 --> 01:07:00.570
not. You had me fooled there for a second. Yeah.

01:07:01.690 --> 01:07:06.369
With Iron Maiden. Dan, what did you think it

01:07:06.369 --> 01:07:09.630
was? I thought it was Heaven and Hell. It was

01:07:09.630 --> 01:07:14.050
Heaven and Hell. You did? I thought it was Judas

01:07:14.050 --> 01:07:20.349
Priest. Because that came out in April. The albums

01:07:20.349 --> 01:07:23.710
wouldn't surprise you guys, but maybe The Order

01:07:23.710 --> 01:07:27.280
would. The order is, yeah, you know, I love Maiden,

01:07:27.280 --> 01:07:30.639
obviously. They have a lot of albums. It's not

01:07:30.639 --> 01:07:34.840
in my top 10. I didn't have room for it. Probably

01:07:34.840 --> 01:07:36.880
because I listened to it over and over, and as

01:07:36.880 --> 01:07:40.400
Victor said earlier, it's not one of my favorites,

01:07:40.440 --> 01:07:44.539
and there's only room for 10. Yeah. And it just

01:07:44.539 --> 01:07:46.239
needs to be re -recorded again or something.

01:07:49.340 --> 01:07:53.659
They've redone what? Prowler, Charlotte the Harlot.

01:07:54.090 --> 01:07:56.789
Yeah, absolutely. Hearing the songs live when

01:07:56.789 --> 01:07:59.690
I'm going to go see them later this year at the

01:07:59.690 --> 01:08:02.750
stadium with Anthrax. Absolutely. Play those

01:08:02.750 --> 01:08:05.809
songs. They're still great. But they didn't make

01:08:05.809 --> 01:08:08.809
my 10. They do have re -records, though, with

01:08:08.809 --> 01:08:11.190
Bruce singing those. Yeah, they're great, too.

01:08:12.210 --> 01:08:17.409
What you just said, Dan, this is my least favorite

01:08:17.409 --> 01:08:21.489
out of the original Maiden run between Iron Maiden

01:08:21.489 --> 01:08:25.520
and Seventh Son. This is the my least favorite

01:08:25.520 --> 01:08:27.619
out of all of them. And that's not saying that

01:08:27.619 --> 01:08:30.699
the album isn't great. I mentioned it today when

01:08:30.699 --> 01:08:38.520
recording the my Patreon podcast where I thought

01:08:38.520 --> 01:08:40.939
the song Burning Ambition was a cover. I didn't

01:08:40.939 --> 01:08:43.600
realize that that was a Steve Harris original.

01:08:43.760 --> 01:08:47.060
I'd actually prefer that on the album over some

01:08:47.060 --> 01:08:48.979
of the other tracks. And I know that this is.

01:08:49.909 --> 01:08:51.850
sacrilegious to some people, but part of the

01:08:51.850 --> 01:08:55.409
reason why I don't listen to this album as much

01:08:55.409 --> 01:08:58.869
as the others is I don't really care for the

01:08:58.869 --> 01:09:02.569
instrumental. Strange World never did it for

01:09:02.569 --> 01:09:05.449
me. And quite honestly, this is the one that

01:09:05.449 --> 01:09:07.510
most people are going to probably crap on me

01:09:07.510 --> 01:09:12.029
for. I've been a fan of Remember Tomorrow. The

01:09:12.029 --> 01:09:16.350
live version of that on EP is fantastic. So much

01:09:16.350 --> 01:09:19.439
better than this. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah,

01:09:19.460 --> 01:09:22.079
I just think it slows everything down because

01:09:22.079 --> 01:09:25.460
you go from Prowler to Remember Tomorrow and

01:09:25.460 --> 01:09:30.960
then Running Free. It just, I don't know, to

01:09:30.960 --> 01:09:34.899
me, you're stumbling between those three tracks.

01:09:34.979 --> 01:09:37.520
Just my opinion. And I know, again, some people

01:09:37.520 --> 01:09:40.100
are probably shaking their fists at that comment,

01:09:40.140 --> 01:09:45.760
but that's my opinion. Anyone else want to talk

01:09:45.760 --> 01:09:50.359
about Iron Maiden by Iron Maiden? I feel the

01:09:50.359 --> 01:09:54.939
opposite of you. Yeah. My opinion is different.

01:09:55.020 --> 01:09:58.579
I love this record and I like all the songs.

01:09:58.699 --> 01:10:01.699
I love the whole vibe and kind of like with ride

01:10:01.699 --> 01:10:03.960
the lightning, you know, it's just got a certain

01:10:03.960 --> 01:10:07.979
kind of sound and vibe that just cannot be captured

01:10:07.979 --> 01:10:12.840
again. And I actually like, I know most people

01:10:12.840 --> 01:10:17.319
like killers better, but I've always liked this

01:10:17.319 --> 01:10:20.869
one the most. And unfortunately, yeah, the songs

01:10:20.869 --> 01:10:22.890
that you don't like, they're some of my favorites.

01:10:23.270 --> 01:10:26.810
I love Remember Tomorrow. I like the dynamics

01:10:26.810 --> 01:10:29.550
that it adds to that record, you know, by taking

01:10:29.550 --> 01:10:32.350
it down and bringing me back up. I get what you're

01:10:32.350 --> 01:10:34.329
saying because they threw that in as the second

01:10:34.329 --> 01:10:39.010
song. Yep. But yeah, it doesn't bother me. This

01:10:39.010 --> 01:10:43.489
is definitely not my, you were saying it's your

01:10:43.489 --> 01:10:45.789
least favorite of the seven. It's definitely

01:10:45.789 --> 01:10:51.689
not my least favorite. But it's definitely not,

01:10:51.729 --> 01:10:55.250
you know, better, of course, than like Number

01:10:55.250 --> 01:10:57.189
of the Bees, Peace of Mind, that kind of thing.

01:10:59.310 --> 01:11:01.930
You know, they're going to do Phantom of the

01:11:01.930 --> 01:11:04.109
Opera and I'm going to go crazy for it. I've

01:11:04.109 --> 01:11:06.170
heard him do it before. I've been to pretty much

01:11:06.170 --> 01:11:09.369
every tour. But if you're standing behind me

01:11:09.369 --> 01:11:12.010
and when the song Iron Maiden comes on, you're

01:11:12.010 --> 01:11:13.430
going to say, what's wrong with that guy? Because

01:11:13.430 --> 01:11:17.659
I lose my shit. Every time when I hear that opening

01:11:17.659 --> 01:11:25.220
riff, I go crazy. It's phenomenal. Love it. Jeremy,

01:11:25.260 --> 01:11:27.779
your opinion on this one? Yeah, well, first of

01:11:27.779 --> 01:11:29.479
all, just to say that I actually bought this

01:11:29.479 --> 01:11:32.560
album the day before my birthday. I was 13 years

01:11:32.560 --> 01:11:36.359
old the following day. So the day before it came

01:11:36.359 --> 01:11:38.899
out. And in those days, you would get vouchers

01:11:38.899 --> 01:11:42.399
from your aunties in the post. And I was probably

01:11:42.399 --> 01:11:45.239
armed with a five pound voucher, went down to

01:11:45.239 --> 01:11:47.180
my local record store and I bought the album.

01:11:48.640 --> 01:11:51.039
I thought it was amazing at the time because

01:11:51.039 --> 01:11:53.579
they were obviously a brand new band I'd heard

01:11:53.579 --> 01:11:58.239
running free before I even bought it. And they

01:11:58.239 --> 01:12:00.260
were just something a bit different at the time.

01:12:01.539 --> 01:12:04.859
You know, looking back on it now, do I think

01:12:04.859 --> 01:12:07.439
it's a great album? No, I don't, because it's

01:12:07.439 --> 01:12:11.060
a debut album. And I saw last week, in fact,

01:12:11.060 --> 01:12:12.979
on Top of the Pops, they put a lot of the old

01:12:12.979 --> 01:12:16.170
programs here. they put them out again every

01:12:16.170 --> 01:12:18.930
friday night and uh the band were playing live

01:12:18.930 --> 01:12:21.210
they played running free live but they were so

01:12:21.210 --> 01:12:24.250
young i mean you have no idea how young they

01:12:24.250 --> 01:12:26.270
looked i mean in your mind you think they were

01:12:26.270 --> 01:12:28.609
young but you have to actually see what they

01:12:28.609 --> 01:12:32.250
were like uh so yeah it's as i said to you before

01:12:32.250 --> 01:12:34.050
there's a difference between the bands playing

01:12:34.050 --> 01:12:36.250
their debut albums and those who are a little

01:12:36.250 --> 01:12:38.729
bit further on in their careers and i just think

01:12:39.130 --> 01:12:40.529
Also, you've got to remember there was a lot

01:12:40.529 --> 01:12:42.909
of punk music going on in the UK at the time.

01:12:42.930 --> 01:12:45.670
And it's a very punky sounding album. It's that

01:12:45.670 --> 01:12:48.250
sort of bridge between punk and heavy metal.

01:12:48.369 --> 01:12:50.949
And in that respect, it's great because it kind

01:12:50.949 --> 01:12:53.470
of brought us through into the new metal music.

01:12:54.869 --> 01:12:57.829
But, you know, they became world superstars,

01:12:57.829 --> 01:13:00.710
as we know. And this is just the very, very beginnings

01:13:00.710 --> 01:13:05.329
of them. And that's what I think separates it

01:13:05.329 --> 01:13:07.729
some from Killers. Killers got a little more.

01:13:08.140 --> 01:13:12.420
On the heavy metal sound. Yeah. And so that punkier

01:13:12.420 --> 01:13:15.920
vibe, you know, it just gives that album a different

01:13:15.920 --> 01:13:20.239
feel that you don't hear again afterwards. And

01:13:20.239 --> 01:13:22.619
it's kind of cool to see him or listen to him

01:13:22.619 --> 01:13:25.859
working all of that out on that album. Yeah.

01:13:26.460 --> 01:13:32.939
I personally think that the song Purgatory is

01:13:32.939 --> 01:13:36.359
more punk than anything on this album. Okay.

01:13:37.260 --> 01:13:41.079
And that's on Killers. Yeah. But they were slowly

01:13:41.079 --> 01:13:44.319
losing it. No, no, no. Without a doubt. I mean,

01:13:44.340 --> 01:13:47.619
once Bruce joined the band, they obviously wanted

01:13:47.619 --> 01:13:52.100
to shed all that. And I mean, if you think about

01:13:52.100 --> 01:13:55.560
their trajectory afterwards, how many, like,

01:13:55.579 --> 01:14:00.859
three -minute songs did they record after Number

01:14:00.859 --> 01:14:05.359
of the Beast? you know they're they're really

01:14:05.359 --> 01:14:08.380
not there maybe sun and steel on peace of mind

01:14:08.380 --> 01:14:11.600
and flash of the blade maybe now flash of the

01:14:11.600 --> 01:14:15.020
blade has like those dueling solos going back

01:14:15.020 --> 01:14:19.720
and forth but i you're right ed i mean for the

01:14:19.720 --> 01:14:22.840
most part it was all gone that that rawness was

01:14:22.840 --> 01:14:26.479
gone but also um you had martin birch on board

01:14:26.479 --> 01:14:29.460
so it was somebody completely different that

01:14:29.460 --> 01:14:32.789
was you know producing producing those albums.

01:14:32.890 --> 01:14:35.770
Those albums are fantastic, sonically still.

01:14:35.930 --> 01:14:38.550
It's much like what I mentioned with the Dieter

01:14:38.550 --> 01:14:43.069
Dirks produced album. Before, I think Dieter

01:14:43.069 --> 01:14:46.729
Dirks, Martin Birch, and Tom Allum at the time

01:14:46.729 --> 01:14:51.130
with Judas Priest just recorded some timeless

01:14:51.130 --> 01:14:54.350
songs that could be kind of dropped in different

01:14:54.350 --> 01:14:57.850
eras where later on you listen to Somewhere in

01:14:57.850 --> 01:15:02.689
Time and Turbo and you listen to savage amusement.

01:15:03.149 --> 01:15:06.850
And you're like, okay, this is eighties. Whereas

01:15:06.850 --> 01:15:09.350
I think a lot of the albums leading up to that,

01:15:09.409 --> 01:15:13.310
you really, they didn't have that same feel though.

01:15:15.630 --> 01:15:18.750
Ed, anything or not at Brad, anything you want

01:15:18.750 --> 01:15:23.510
to add on this? Self -titled Iron Maiden. Yeah.

01:15:23.609 --> 01:15:25.829
How in the hell is this signals from Mars where

01:15:25.829 --> 01:15:28.369
Iron Maiden is eligible and doesn't get first

01:15:28.369 --> 01:15:31.880
place? It's the second time. What is going on

01:15:31.880 --> 01:15:34.640
here? A second time, yeah. It is the second time.

01:15:34.720 --> 01:15:37.899
And I will say this. I mentioned before that

01:15:37.899 --> 01:15:43.239
16 through 10 had one point separating each one

01:15:43.239 --> 01:15:49.000
of them. After you get to 10, between Shanker

01:15:49.000 --> 01:15:53.340
and Saxon, there's almost 15 points difference.

01:15:53.880 --> 01:15:57.819
Between Saxon and Scorpions, there's 10 points

01:15:57.819 --> 01:16:04.640
difference. Between Scorpions and Motorhead,

01:16:04.699 --> 01:16:11.859
there's almost 25 points. Yeah. I want to say

01:16:11.859 --> 01:16:15.460
that as much as I love Maiden, this album, once

01:16:15.460 --> 01:16:18.260
again, in the U .S., I never even saw this album

01:16:18.260 --> 01:16:20.739
until years after it came out. Yeah. I mean,

01:16:20.739 --> 01:16:23.979
the very first album that I ever saw was Killers.

01:16:24.700 --> 01:16:27.359
And the only reason I knew about it was in one

01:16:27.359 --> 01:16:28.939
of the magazines that I got. I don't know if

01:16:28.939 --> 01:16:30.500
it was Hit Parade or Circus or whatever. They

01:16:30.500 --> 01:16:32.840
took an ad out in there. And I looked at the

01:16:32.840 --> 01:16:34.460
album cover and I'm like, what the hell is this?

01:16:34.859 --> 01:16:36.979
I mean, what is this music going to be like?

01:16:37.539 --> 01:16:41.960
And of course, I bought the album because why

01:16:41.960 --> 01:16:45.500
wouldn't you? And I was just totally blown away.

01:16:45.760 --> 01:16:48.159
And then it was years later that I found out,

01:16:48.220 --> 01:16:50.699
wait, there is an album before this one? And

01:16:50.699 --> 01:16:55.310
after listening to Killers. like 500 times. And

01:16:55.310 --> 01:16:57.350
then I put this on, it was, it would, I'm going

01:16:57.350 --> 01:16:59.010
to be honest. It was a bit of a letdown because

01:16:59.010 --> 01:17:01.069
the production wasn't as great. I mean, it just,

01:17:01.149 --> 01:17:04.010
it just sounded like, you know, how some of the

01:17:04.010 --> 01:17:07.550
bands like Judas priest, their first album. Yeah.

01:17:07.670 --> 01:17:10.130
It is a, it's a band just trying to figure out

01:17:10.130 --> 01:17:13.289
what they're doing at this point. And they, I

01:17:13.289 --> 01:17:15.130
think they figured it out. And of course they

01:17:15.130 --> 01:17:18.250
got a good producer that helped that the second

01:17:18.250 --> 01:17:20.170
album is where the band really came together

01:17:20.170 --> 01:17:23.140
for me. So that's why this band, as much as I

01:17:23.140 --> 01:17:28.159
love Maiden, it didn't make my top 10. Okay.

01:17:29.380 --> 01:17:33.260
All right. The other thing I did want to mention

01:17:33.260 --> 01:17:37.380
is that, what else? Between Ace of Spades and

01:17:37.380 --> 01:17:40.600
Van Halen, there's a huge jump. And then there's

01:17:40.600 --> 01:17:46.119
a huge jump between Van Halen and Iron Maiden.

01:17:46.220 --> 01:17:48.960
And then from Iron Maiden to the next album.

01:17:49.550 --> 01:17:53.630
There's also a huge jump. The big dogfight I

01:17:53.630 --> 01:17:58.590
will mention later on. There's two spots that

01:17:58.590 --> 01:18:02.989
flip -flopped and were determined by one point

01:18:02.989 --> 01:18:08.949
in the end. It was determined by somebody who

01:18:08.949 --> 01:18:13.149
sent in their votes late today. So anyway. All

01:18:13.149 --> 01:18:20.779
right. So at... Number four. This album released,

01:18:21.180 --> 01:18:29.859
again, April of 1980. This is the one. You jumped

01:18:29.859 --> 01:18:33.000
the gun before there, Dan. You know which one

01:18:33.000 --> 01:18:35.159
it is this time around. Recorded between December

01:18:35.159 --> 01:18:41.560
79, February of 80. Recorded at Tintinhurst Park

01:18:41.560 --> 01:18:45.770
in Ascot. I'm sure there were plenty of nice

01:18:45.770 --> 01:18:49.090
kerchiefs and ascots going on at the time there.

01:18:52.289 --> 01:18:57.270
Clocked in at 36 minutes, 10 seconds. The label

01:18:57.270 --> 01:19:04.529
is Columbia. The producer is Tom Allum. You are

01:19:04.529 --> 01:19:09.460
totally off, Brad. This is our living after midnight.

01:19:09.720 --> 01:19:13.819
Breaking the law and uniting. I'm confident putting

01:19:13.819 --> 01:19:18.300
on his Black Sabbath t -shirt. The metal gods.

01:19:18.539 --> 01:19:25.600
Rob did sing in Black Sabbath, so come on. It

01:19:25.600 --> 01:19:31.439
is British Steel Judas Priest. Great. Brad was

01:19:31.439 --> 01:19:33.899
celebrating as somebody sprinted alongside of

01:19:33.899 --> 01:19:38.939
him and passed him for the win. I'm going to

01:19:38.939 --> 01:19:40.699
keep this shirt on because I think it's very

01:19:40.699 --> 01:19:44.939
relevant. Yeah. Two times it's going to be relevant.

01:19:45.500 --> 01:19:48.520
So that's interesting, though, that Priest went

01:19:48.520 --> 01:19:51.439
up higher than Maiden, which might be a first

01:19:51.439 --> 01:19:55.600
for this show. Yeah. I agree. It's just the album.

01:19:55.720 --> 01:19:57.779
Somebody actually voted on the album rather than

01:19:57.779 --> 01:20:01.779
the band. Yeah. Sound quality might be better.

01:20:01.899 --> 01:20:08.300
Yes. So much better album. Yeah. And I'm a bigger

01:20:08.300 --> 01:20:14.060
Maiden fan, but I have to say that Sidemen is

01:20:14.060 --> 01:20:19.060
perfect on this. I think outside of like the

01:20:19.060 --> 01:20:22.500
last two tracks off of this album, I've listened

01:20:22.500 --> 01:20:29.899
to the rest a million times. I mean, being lucky

01:20:29.899 --> 01:20:34.520
to grow up where a college station like WSOU

01:20:34.520 --> 01:20:41.159
was a... mostly a metal station um we got to

01:20:41.159 --> 01:20:44.420
hear rapid fire and metal gods and grinder and

01:20:44.420 --> 01:20:46.699
you don't have to you don't have to be old to

01:20:46.699 --> 01:20:50.199
be wise was probably the song that they played

01:20:50.199 --> 01:20:55.779
most off of this good for them yeah um i remember

01:20:55.779 --> 01:20:58.760
hearing you know breaking the law and living

01:20:58.760 --> 01:21:02.300
after midnight on the you know that you're the

01:21:02.300 --> 01:21:05.420
typical rock station but for the most part you'd

01:21:06.159 --> 01:21:08.380
You didn't get to hear these songs until like

01:21:08.380 --> 01:21:12.500
after 10 p .m. You know, because it was, oh,

01:21:12.579 --> 01:21:15.319
it's heavy metal. It's not, you know, it's not

01:21:15.319 --> 01:21:18.199
Springsteen. It's not Steve Wynwood. It's not,

01:21:18.199 --> 01:21:21.220
you know, Bob Dylan. So this couldn't fit in

01:21:21.220 --> 01:21:23.359
there. It was funny because they could weave

01:21:23.359 --> 01:21:26.800
Chaka Khan in there and Prince, but they couldn't

01:21:26.800 --> 01:21:29.680
bring Judas Priest in there. It didn't make sense

01:21:29.680 --> 01:21:32.640
at the time to me. So it's so interesting that.

01:21:33.310 --> 01:21:36.189
how rock radio evolved in the States where those

01:21:36.189 --> 01:21:40.390
songs are staples on, on rock radio and their

01:21:40.390 --> 01:21:44.930
staples in stadiums and movies and, and so many

01:21:44.930 --> 01:21:48.329
different things. I mean, the, the songs off

01:21:48.329 --> 01:21:52.170
of this album have really traversed and gone

01:21:52.170 --> 01:21:55.510
beyond as being metal classics. That's why I

01:21:55.510 --> 01:21:59.970
think that more people voted for this over iron

01:21:59.970 --> 01:22:05.039
maiden and Also, this album, for a lot of people,

01:22:05.100 --> 01:22:08.479
for a lot of people, Priest's big three albums

01:22:08.479 --> 01:22:15.159
are this. Screaming. Defenders, Defenders of

01:22:15.159 --> 01:22:22.539
the Faith, and Screaming. With the damn bird

01:22:22.539 --> 01:22:25.140
on it. Screaming for Vengeance. Screaming for

01:22:25.140 --> 01:22:28.300
Vengeance. Those three albums, yes, Old Man Brain.

01:22:28.800 --> 01:22:31.619
Those three albums for a lot of people are the

01:22:31.619 --> 01:22:34.119
big three for Priest. I know that there are people

01:22:34.119 --> 01:22:37.260
out there that will say, no, Stained Class is

01:22:37.260 --> 01:22:41.720
in my top three or Painkiller is in my top three.

01:22:42.680 --> 01:22:49.939
But for a lot of people, it's those three. Jeremy,

01:22:50.239 --> 01:22:54.630
British Steel. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it meant a

01:22:54.630 --> 01:22:57.810
huge amount to me at the time. And it still does.

01:22:58.029 --> 01:23:00.770
I mean, they were the biggest band that I got

01:23:00.770 --> 01:23:03.829
into at that particular time. And those singles,

01:23:03.949 --> 01:23:05.850
I mean, they had three singles off this album

01:23:05.850 --> 01:23:09.090
that were all on top of the pop. So all massive

01:23:09.090 --> 01:23:13.510
hits. They probably sold so many copies that,

01:23:13.569 --> 01:23:15.710
you know, you have no idea how many they sold

01:23:15.710 --> 01:23:19.760
at the time compared to today. They were just

01:23:19.760 --> 01:23:21.979
incredible. And again, it's another band that

01:23:21.979 --> 01:23:24.899
were well along on their career. So they were

01:23:24.899 --> 01:23:28.760
able to morph from a 70s rock, classic rock band

01:23:28.760 --> 01:23:31.760
into a new wave of British heavy metal band that

01:23:31.760 --> 01:23:34.819
did commercial stuff. This was the most commercial

01:23:34.819 --> 01:23:37.479
album that Judas Priest ever did. And it was

01:23:37.479 --> 01:23:39.420
probably their best seller. It was certainly

01:23:39.420 --> 01:23:41.960
the one that all British people will remember.

01:23:42.479 --> 01:23:45.239
It was named after the national steel company

01:23:45.239 --> 01:23:49.880
in the UK, British Steel. And it meant a lot

01:23:49.880 --> 01:23:52.180
because it chimed with the working class. It

01:23:52.180 --> 01:23:54.000
chimed with the people who were getting into

01:23:54.000 --> 01:23:57.039
metal at the time, were the working classes of

01:23:57.039 --> 01:24:03.359
the UK. You know, that's how metal originated.

01:24:03.659 --> 01:24:07.260
And it spread out from Birmingham, where they

01:24:07.260 --> 01:24:11.539
were from, and they became legends, absolute

01:24:11.539 --> 01:24:14.960
legends with this album. And like you say, Victor,

01:24:15.260 --> 01:24:18.180
the side one is amazing. But there's a load of

01:24:18.180 --> 01:24:21.140
songs on this album. It's incredible. And, you

01:24:21.140 --> 01:24:24.800
know, a lot of people don't like metal albums

01:24:24.800 --> 01:24:27.380
to be so commercial sometimes because we're all

01:24:27.380 --> 01:24:30.020
metal nerds. We like to get deep. We like to

01:24:30.020 --> 01:24:32.279
deep dive and we like all their other albums.

01:24:32.359 --> 01:24:35.699
We like all the very metal -y albums. But you've

01:24:35.699 --> 01:24:38.439
got to remember that a commercial album sells

01:24:38.439 --> 01:24:43.220
to the non -metal public so that they become...

01:24:43.789 --> 01:24:46.369
very well known, and it also sells metal more

01:24:46.369 --> 01:24:49.670
widely and gets people into the music that we

01:24:49.670 --> 01:24:52.390
love. And that's kind of what this album did,

01:24:52.470 --> 01:24:55.890
really. And even today, you will hear, just to

01:24:55.890 --> 01:24:59.470
finish, Living After Midnight and Breaking the

01:24:59.470 --> 01:25:05.109
Law on the radio, even today, here. So, Jeremy,

01:25:05.250 --> 01:25:09.750
do you feel like I do? I feel like when this

01:25:09.750 --> 01:25:14.210
album was released, there was a change. and what

01:25:14.210 --> 01:25:17.930
was becoming heavy metal it's almost like this

01:25:17.930 --> 01:25:21.470
was kind of a pinnacle moment where you know

01:25:21.470 --> 01:25:25.489
heavy metal the sound the image it was all being

01:25:25.489 --> 01:25:29.090
worked out and then this kind of became you know

01:25:29.090 --> 01:25:33.069
the template for what became after it i think

01:25:33.069 --> 01:25:37.229
like you can tell uh especially like you're saying

01:25:37.229 --> 01:25:41.609
with the more commercial sound of it i think

01:25:41.899 --> 01:25:44.180
and from what i understand you know those were

01:25:44.180 --> 01:25:48.079
heavy metals biggest years commercially and i

01:25:48.079 --> 01:25:51.439
think albums like this really helped push that

01:25:51.439 --> 01:25:54.720
you know the commercial side of heavy metal along

01:25:54.720 --> 01:25:57.920
for those first few years until you know the

01:25:57.920 --> 01:26:00.460
hair metals thing kind of took over yeah exactly

01:26:00.460 --> 01:26:03.279
because there was a big uh explosion of the u

01:26:03.279 --> 01:26:06.380
.s scene that came slowly after you know well

01:26:06.810 --> 01:26:09.850
quite quickly really after this. So yeah, I agree

01:26:09.850 --> 01:26:12.810
that, you know, the commerciality of rock and

01:26:12.810 --> 01:26:15.909
metal began in this sort of time. And these sort

01:26:15.909 --> 01:26:17.909
of bands like Judas Priest were pushing that.

01:26:18.510 --> 01:26:20.970
Probably didn't fully realize it at the time,

01:26:20.989 --> 01:26:23.750
but no, yeah, that was, that was what was happening.

01:26:23.850 --> 01:26:26.189
And then it allowed those bands from America

01:26:26.189 --> 01:26:30.130
to take over and really push the scene, you know,

01:26:30.149 --> 01:26:33.010
much further, I think. Yeah. Yeah. British boys

01:26:33.010 --> 01:26:36.130
are showing us how it's done. There, weren't

01:26:36.130 --> 01:26:44.189
you? Yeah. As you did in 1970. I either don't

01:26:44.189 --> 01:26:47.329
remember or never knew that it was named after

01:26:47.329 --> 01:26:50.210
the British Steel, so that was nice to hear.

01:26:51.970 --> 01:26:55.810
Steeler is probably my favorite pre -song, maybe

01:26:55.810 --> 01:26:59.609
of all of them out of the whole catalog. That

01:26:59.609 --> 01:27:03.430
is a great one. Yeah, to end with, which so...

01:27:04.010 --> 01:27:05.989
I want to say it's been about 10 years when they

01:27:05.989 --> 01:27:10.130
did the album from start to finish as a tour

01:27:10.130 --> 01:27:13.510
was a great tour. And then to be able to say,

01:27:13.529 --> 01:27:15.590
you know, you're going to hear the rage for the

01:27:15.590 --> 01:27:18.050
first time ever and Steeler for the first time,

01:27:18.069 --> 01:27:21.869
all this, it was worth it. So it was good to

01:27:21.869 --> 01:27:25.930
not miss on that tour. That was a worth it. One

01:27:25.930 --> 01:27:28.289
thing that does always throw me off when I listen

01:27:28.289 --> 01:27:31.550
to this record. I listen to it more now that

01:27:31.550 --> 01:27:35.729
I'm older and have the vinyl, is the song United

01:27:35.729 --> 01:27:40.409
sounds like an album closer. Yes. And it always

01:27:40.409 --> 01:27:43.210
feels to me like it's in the wrong place. And

01:27:43.210 --> 01:27:45.270
actually, when I look at the track listings here

01:27:45.270 --> 01:27:48.770
on the screen, you could almost flip those sides,

01:27:48.949 --> 01:27:52.090
A and B, and it might even work a little better,

01:27:52.149 --> 01:27:56.640
the flow of some of those songs. Because Breaking

01:27:56.640 --> 01:27:58.979
the Law and Living After Midnight, either one

01:27:58.979 --> 01:28:02.319
of those were good first or second side openers.

01:28:02.539 --> 01:28:05.779
Yeah. But United, you're listening to United

01:28:05.779 --> 01:28:08.199
and you feel like you're ending the record because

01:28:08.199 --> 01:28:11.239
it's got that, you know, that kind of sing -along

01:28:11.239 --> 01:28:13.140
chorus, you know, let's all get together and

01:28:13.140 --> 01:28:14.859
have a sing -along before it ends, you know?

01:28:15.500 --> 01:28:18.760
Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. Do you hear

01:28:18.760 --> 01:28:21.199
these guys when they did this stuff back in the

01:28:21.199 --> 01:28:25.789
day, it's so much faster, it's heavier. it's

01:28:25.789 --> 01:28:28.170
raw. And then they hear them do it. Now it's

01:28:28.170 --> 01:28:31.350
slowed down. It's not the same. And that's my

01:28:31.350 --> 01:28:33.569
take on a priest right now. And it's sad to say,

01:28:33.649 --> 01:28:36.369
but thankfully I got to hear, you know, rapid

01:28:36.369 --> 01:28:39.029
fire back in the day when it was heavy and fast

01:28:39.029 --> 01:28:43.369
and, and raw. When it was actually rapid, it's

01:28:43.369 --> 01:28:50.810
now what medium fire. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good

01:28:50.810 --> 01:28:55.239
times. Yeah. I, surprisingly enough, I'm remembering

01:28:55.239 --> 01:28:59.460
as I'm reading the listing here, I can actually

01:28:59.460 --> 01:29:02.720
play more than one of the songs on guitar off

01:29:02.720 --> 01:29:06.739
of this. It's usually I can play songs on the

01:29:06.739 --> 01:29:09.739
drums easily, but Breaking the Lawn Grinder,

01:29:09.760 --> 01:29:12.239
two songs that I've learned to play over the

01:29:12.239 --> 01:29:15.680
years. So anyway. You can actually, you can hear.

01:29:15.779 --> 01:29:18.550
So on the release of the bonus disc. they have

01:29:18.550 --> 01:29:22.250
the Long Beach from 84 of doing songs. And then

01:29:22.250 --> 01:29:25.289
you can hear the songs today. So I'm, you know,

01:29:25.310 --> 01:29:29.130
if I'm lying, I'm dying, but there sounds a little

01:29:29.130 --> 01:29:33.010
bit different years ago versus now. So you can,

01:29:33.050 --> 01:29:37.489
I mean, you can just see the, the DVDs they've

01:29:37.489 --> 01:29:39.970
released, you know, where they've gone back and

01:29:39.970 --> 01:29:42.930
they did like that 82 show that was released.

01:29:43.109 --> 01:29:50.050
Yeah. 10, 15 years ago. And it's completely different.

01:29:50.090 --> 01:29:53.869
It's seeing what, with so much energy and edge

01:29:53.869 --> 01:29:57.090
and rawness and they, they look like a dangerous

01:29:57.090 --> 01:30:00.329
band, you know, they're, they're up there and

01:30:00.329 --> 01:30:03.989
goosebumps. Yeah. And, and you're, you're seeing

01:30:03.989 --> 01:30:11.810
some really good music, you know? Um, and just

01:30:11.810 --> 01:30:13.789
seeing this stuff played live is just ridiculous.

01:30:13.930 --> 01:30:18.159
It's, it's unfortunate that You know, it's still

01:30:18.159 --> 01:30:19.720
cool that they're still around, that they're

01:30:19.720 --> 01:30:21.979
still putting out good music. But yeah, I get

01:30:21.979 --> 01:30:23.319
what you're saying. You know, a lot of these

01:30:23.319 --> 01:30:26.340
songs, they're playing them a lot slower. They're

01:30:26.340 --> 01:30:29.060
playing them detuned as well. After three years,

01:30:29.100 --> 01:30:30.819
much like Miss Nain, they were like, oh, no,

01:30:30.880 --> 01:30:33.840
we don't have to detune. They detuned when Ripper

01:30:33.840 --> 01:30:35.699
joined the band. And then they said, oh, we're

01:30:35.699 --> 01:30:38.340
never detuning again. And that lasted like one

01:30:38.340 --> 01:30:41.659
tour. They were back to detuning after that.

01:30:44.000 --> 01:30:48.159
Brad, anything on this album? Yeah, I mean, this

01:30:48.159 --> 01:30:51.979
album was a huge change for Judas Priest. I remember

01:30:51.979 --> 01:30:55.560
listening to this album and my mom comes into

01:30:55.560 --> 01:30:58.439
the room. I was expecting for her to tell me

01:30:58.439 --> 01:31:00.340
to turn it down because, of course, when I listen

01:31:00.340 --> 01:31:02.899
to music, everybody in the house listen to it.

01:31:04.380 --> 01:31:07.600
But she comes in and she says, this is a really

01:31:07.600 --> 01:31:12.180
good album. I like this album. Whoa. So, yeah,

01:31:12.300 --> 01:31:18.649
something different was going on here. I mean,

01:31:18.649 --> 01:31:21.489
Brad, put your hand, take your hands out of your

01:31:21.489 --> 01:31:29.729
pants. I didn't expect to hear a mom story. That's

01:31:29.729 --> 01:31:33.729
awesome. Yeah. Yeah. No mom. Yeah. Yeah. I did.

01:31:33.770 --> 01:31:39.090
I didn't lock my door. Sorry. But, but yeah.

01:31:39.170 --> 01:31:41.590
And seeing them on this tour, this is of course,

01:31:41.590 --> 01:31:45.380
right after hell bent for leather. where they

01:31:45.380 --> 01:31:47.619
were headlining the Starwood for Hellbent for

01:31:47.619 --> 01:31:51.840
Leather. Wow, that's small. And so this moved

01:31:51.840 --> 01:31:54.539
them to the Santa Monica Civic, which is still

01:31:54.539 --> 01:31:57.920
not a big venue, but it was for this type of

01:31:57.920 --> 01:32:01.520
music, for them to be headlining there, it was

01:32:01.520 --> 01:32:03.100
a huge change. Boy, I wish I could remember who

01:32:03.100 --> 01:32:05.779
warmed up for them. It was like, obviously, nobody's.

01:32:07.039 --> 01:32:10.239
But my big disappointment was the new drummer,

01:32:10.340 --> 01:32:14.500
Dave Holland. He could not play those. songs

01:32:14.500 --> 01:32:17.000
from the albums before this. He just, he really

01:32:17.000 --> 01:32:19.159
struggled through them. And I was like, oh man,

01:32:19.279 --> 01:32:20.819
why'd they, why, you know, why'd they get rid

01:32:20.819 --> 01:32:25.300
of Les Binks? He was so awesome. But this is

01:32:25.300 --> 01:32:29.500
just a great, great album. And it crosses, it

01:32:29.500 --> 01:32:32.300
crosses barriers. It's not just for metalheads,

01:32:32.439 --> 01:32:35.359
although it is for metalheads, but just, it crosses

01:32:35.359 --> 01:32:38.199
over barriers. And I mean, that's, if you can

01:32:38.199 --> 01:32:42.340
do that with our kind of music, well done. So.

01:32:43.600 --> 01:32:46.359
So good job, Judas Priest. Isn't it weird that

01:32:46.359 --> 01:32:48.939
Dave Holland lasted so long in the band, though?

01:32:49.119 --> 01:32:52.760
I mean, if you really listen to what Les Binks

01:32:52.760 --> 01:32:56.380
did before and what Scott Travis did after, he's

01:32:56.380 --> 01:32:59.420
such a vanilla player in comparison. I mean,

01:32:59.439 --> 01:33:05.199
he fits into the songs. And obviously, you know,

01:33:05.220 --> 01:33:07.119
he was playing what they were telling him to

01:33:07.119 --> 01:33:11.720
play. Yeah. My theory at the time, I mean, cause

01:33:11.720 --> 01:33:13.840
you know, I've, I've saw him twice with less

01:33:13.840 --> 01:33:16.520
banks. And then of course this is the first show

01:33:16.520 --> 01:33:20.500
with Adam is that it felt like, okay, all of

01:33:20.500 --> 01:33:22.420
a sudden now this band is about three people

01:33:22.420 --> 01:33:25.079
and that's where we want all the attention to

01:33:25.079 --> 01:33:27.340
be. We don't want a drummer that's taking attention

01:33:27.340 --> 01:33:30.180
away from the singer and the two guitar players.

01:33:30.479 --> 01:33:33.399
And that's what it felt like to me. I don't know

01:33:33.399 --> 01:33:34.939
if that was a conscious thing. It's like, we

01:33:34.939 --> 01:33:36.800
don't want a flashy drummer anymore. We want

01:33:36.800 --> 01:33:40.030
things to be really just four on the floor. And,

01:33:40.030 --> 01:33:43.090
you know, just he stays back there or up there

01:33:43.090 --> 01:33:45.430
as he began. You know, he was back there at this

01:33:45.430 --> 01:33:47.350
time. And then the next tour, he was up there

01:33:47.350 --> 01:33:51.069
like miles high up ahead of, you know, above

01:33:51.069 --> 01:33:55.850
everybody. You know, no drum solo. He's never

01:33:55.850 --> 01:33:59.909
going to get a drum solo. And yeah, it just felt

01:33:59.909 --> 01:34:01.470
like there was a real change in the band. It's

01:34:01.470 --> 01:34:03.310
like, yeah, this is a three person band now.

01:34:04.069 --> 01:34:08.390
And. So that's why they scratched Carmine's name

01:34:08.390 --> 01:34:10.850
first off of the list for people to bring in.

01:34:12.010 --> 01:34:15.329
Yeah, yeah, that wasn't going to happen. Yeah,

01:34:15.329 --> 01:34:17.869
I was kind of devastated. I'm like, because I

01:34:17.869 --> 01:34:20.689
love Les Banks, man. He was so fun to watch.

01:34:20.909 --> 01:34:24.310
And I thought his drumming was so important in

01:34:24.310 --> 01:34:28.649
those two albums that he did. And I mean, this

01:34:28.649 --> 01:34:29.930
all of a sudden, it's like, nope, it's going

01:34:29.930 --> 01:34:34.560
to be up, the songs and the three guys. So there

01:34:34.560 --> 01:34:38.119
you go. But it's a great, great album. So well

01:34:38.119 --> 01:34:41.020
done. Well done, Priest. You deserve to be in

01:34:41.020 --> 01:34:45.460
the top 10. All right. So one thing real quick

01:34:45.460 --> 01:34:49.500
that was kind of weird when I was compiling the

01:34:49.500 --> 01:34:54.579
final countdown today, I thought of how many

01:34:54.579 --> 01:34:59.500
of these bands have members that are no longer

01:34:59.500 --> 01:35:02.460
with us. Priest? There's people that have passed

01:35:02.460 --> 01:35:06.359
away. Maiden does. Van Halen, obviously. Motorhead,

01:35:06.460 --> 01:35:11.239
that classic trio's gone. Scorpion. You know,

01:35:11.279 --> 01:35:17.899
Prince. Just passed away. Saxon have anyone who's

01:35:17.899 --> 01:35:23.079
passed away? The drummer. Didn't P. Gill go?

01:35:23.899 --> 01:35:26.680
Jeremy? I'm just trying to think. Did he die

01:35:26.680 --> 01:35:32.369
or did he leave? I think he... I'll have to do

01:35:32.369 --> 01:35:34.090
some research on that. I don't think he died.

01:35:35.149 --> 01:35:37.489
Dobby, he's still... Dawson, he's still alive.

01:35:37.750 --> 01:35:44.289
Yeah, yeah. Just his hair died. Yeah. I think

01:35:44.289 --> 01:35:47.569
they're all still alive, but... Yeah. A lot of

01:35:47.569 --> 01:35:50.289
our favorites have gone. Maybe they're the exception.

01:35:50.449 --> 01:35:53.789
Michael Shanker had Cozy Pal. Kisses had several

01:35:53.789 --> 01:35:57.920
numbers pass away. Def Leppard, obviously. And

01:35:57.920 --> 01:36:06.159
Lizzy, obviously, Rush. So there's a lot of our

01:36:06.159 --> 01:36:09.380
favorite bands and records have people that are

01:36:09.380 --> 01:36:12.000
no longer with us anymore. These albums are 46

01:36:12.000 --> 01:36:15.420
years old, kids. I think that Whitesnake album,

01:36:15.560 --> 01:36:20.420
there's about three that have died. Because there's

01:36:20.420 --> 01:36:27.010
Bernie Marsden's died, Cozy Powell. Yeah. And

01:36:27.010 --> 01:36:32.470
John Lord. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Think about

01:36:32.470 --> 01:36:34.689
it though. When you were, let's see, what, what,

01:36:34.689 --> 01:36:39.270
what year was it when you were 16, Victor? 89.

01:36:40.029 --> 01:36:43.510
Okay. So let's go back 46 years from 89 to 1943.

01:36:44.010 --> 01:36:47.310
How many songs from 1943 were you people talking

01:36:47.310 --> 01:36:52.869
about? And here we are, here we are for 46 years

01:36:52.869 --> 01:36:54.930
later, we're still talking about these albums

01:36:54.930 --> 01:36:57.350
and they're, they're like making us feel like

01:36:57.350 --> 01:37:01.270
kids again and just making us feel the love of

01:37:01.270 --> 01:37:03.850
this music. And, and it's, it is, it's not just

01:37:03.850 --> 01:37:08.609
us. The Andrew sisters didn't have good PR people

01:37:08.609 --> 01:37:12.829
behind them. You know, maybe if I was out to

01:37:12.829 --> 01:37:15.069
dinner, Brad, I had the same conversation. If

01:37:15.069 --> 01:37:17.130
I saw somebody like you, maybe you weren't wearing

01:37:17.130 --> 01:37:19.350
that shirt. I'd go, I bet you that person does

01:37:19.350 --> 01:37:21.609
not listen to metal or whatever. I look at the

01:37:21.609 --> 01:37:23.789
people that are my age, I think they all look

01:37:23.789 --> 01:37:25.390
like they're old and they don't listen to that.

01:37:26.029 --> 01:37:28.050
Yet they grew up with the same time I did. They

01:37:28.050 --> 01:37:33.069
had the same chance. I think they still listen

01:37:33.069 --> 01:37:36.810
to the 1946 music, people of my age. That's how

01:37:36.810 --> 01:37:46.609
I see it, or country. All right, so number three.

01:37:49.679 --> 01:37:53.420
Oh, number two and three were a dog fight. They're

01:37:53.420 --> 01:37:56.960
separated by one point. And at one point today,

01:37:57.140 --> 01:38:04.380
they were tied. All right. So this album came

01:38:04.380 --> 01:38:10.279
out in April of 80 recorded between 79 and 80

01:38:10.279 --> 01:38:15.890
recorded between. Criteria in Miami and Ferber

01:38:15.890 --> 01:38:26.970
in Paris. On Vertigo, it says. Producer Martin

01:38:26.970 --> 01:38:35.130
Birch. Singles. Neon Knights. Lady Evil. And

01:38:35.130 --> 01:38:44.199
Die Young. This is the one, the only. Black Sabbath

01:38:44.199 --> 01:38:50.380
with Heaven and Hell. What an album. This was

01:38:50.380 --> 01:38:58.100
my number one. This is an album that in 1980,

01:38:58.260 --> 01:39:03.420
I had no idea that this even existed. The first

01:39:03.420 --> 01:39:05.920
song I ever heard off of this was the title track.

01:39:06.000 --> 01:39:10.369
I don't remember how many years later. I was

01:39:10.369 --> 01:39:13.409
too young to give a crap about the whole Ozzy

01:39:13.409 --> 01:39:16.829
Dio thing. All I knew was that song was just

01:39:16.829 --> 01:39:21.750
so damn good. I think it was on a compilation

01:39:21.750 --> 01:39:25.829
that either I had or one of my cousins had. And

01:39:25.829 --> 01:39:29.850
I was like, what's this? And this is just beyond

01:39:29.850 --> 01:39:34.050
great. And then years later, hearing Lady Evil

01:39:34.050 --> 01:39:36.449
for the first time, Neon Knights for the first

01:39:36.449 --> 01:39:38.670
time, Children of the Sea for the first time.

01:39:39.569 --> 01:39:44.390
Wishing Well, Die Young, Walk Away, and Lonely

01:39:44.390 --> 01:39:49.250
is the Word. This album is, you know, slightly

01:39:49.250 --> 01:39:54.390
under 40 minutes. And this to me is, if it's

01:39:54.390 --> 01:39:59.750
not a perfect album, it's damn well near close

01:39:59.750 --> 01:40:05.569
to it. So this was my introduction to Ronnie

01:40:05.569 --> 01:40:09.579
James Dio as well. So I had no idea what a rainbow

01:40:09.579 --> 01:40:12.640
was before this or anything like that. So that

01:40:12.640 --> 01:40:14.819
the title track of this is the first time I ever

01:40:14.819 --> 01:40:17.520
heard Ronnie James deal. And what a way to hear

01:40:17.520 --> 01:40:23.720
him. So, um, you like this one better than mob

01:40:23.720 --> 01:40:27.060
rules being that high on your list. Sound quality.

01:40:28.960 --> 01:40:34.100
Yes, because, and I love mob rules. It's funny.

01:40:34.909 --> 01:40:37.670
Out of the three Dio albums, Dehumanizer is my

01:40:37.670 --> 01:40:40.869
favorite. I know that I'm odd with that. That

01:40:40.869 --> 01:40:45.869
is odd. But it has everything to do with the

01:40:45.869 --> 01:40:51.170
fact that the album is heavy as hell. The drums

01:40:51.170 --> 01:40:59.949
are heavy as hell. And I was a senior in high

01:40:59.949 --> 01:41:03.409
school. This was the first. No, that's a lie.

01:41:04.060 --> 01:41:06.659
Tear was the first album that I bought when it

01:41:06.659 --> 01:41:09.140
first came out. And this was the follow -up to

01:41:09.140 --> 01:41:12.000
that. So I remember getting this and hearing

01:41:12.000 --> 01:41:15.899
how, or getting Dehumanizer and hearing how heavy

01:41:15.899 --> 01:41:19.500
and punishing it was. And I was like, that's

01:41:19.500 --> 01:41:23.640
me. This is, this is my sound. That's why I prefer

01:41:23.640 --> 01:41:27.520
it. But I mean, I'm looking at Mob Rules now.

01:41:27.619 --> 01:41:32.000
Mob Rules also has great songs on it. I think

01:41:32.000 --> 01:41:35.899
that, Heaven and Hell is slightly better. Yeah,

01:41:35.899 --> 01:41:39.100
I think it probably is. Yeah. And it's not to

01:41:39.100 --> 01:41:41.239
say that Mob Rules is bad. It's just that one

01:41:41.239 --> 01:41:43.899
is just a little bit better. You know, one is

01:41:43.899 --> 01:41:47.300
a 10, the other one's a 9, for lack of a better

01:41:47.300 --> 01:41:52.000
comparison. You know, what always stands out

01:41:52.000 --> 01:41:55.460
about this album the most to me is that album

01:41:55.460 --> 01:41:59.699
cover. Having grown up in such a sheltered Christian

01:41:59.699 --> 01:42:04.529
environment. I remember that album cover more

01:42:04.529 --> 01:42:07.149
than most others from when you go to the mall,

01:42:07.270 --> 01:42:09.289
go to the record store and you're flipping around,

01:42:09.449 --> 01:42:12.890
checking everything out. And yeah, just seeing

01:42:12.890 --> 01:42:18.489
those angels smoking cigarettes was very interesting

01:42:18.489 --> 01:42:21.510
to look at. And I just never forget seeing that

01:42:21.510 --> 01:42:24.529
as, you know, back then I was 10 years old, so

01:42:24.529 --> 01:42:27.010
I was probably seeing it 10, 11, 12 years old

01:42:27.010 --> 01:42:32.909
at the mall. But yeah, great. Great album. What

01:42:32.909 --> 01:42:39.689
an interesting year having Ozzy go solo and Dio

01:42:39.689 --> 01:42:41.930
come in and start fronting Sabbath and they put

01:42:41.930 --> 01:42:44.229
out those records, right? A few months from each

01:42:44.229 --> 01:42:51.869
other. Yeah. I had to weigh the two, right? So

01:42:51.869 --> 01:42:54.149
that's where the next discussion is, is which

01:42:54.149 --> 01:42:57.510
one is higher? And I put Blizzard higher. So

01:42:57.510 --> 01:42:59.880
I guess that's going to come in still. Yeah,

01:42:59.939 --> 01:43:02.899
the album cover is fantastic. It was sacrilegious,

01:43:02.939 --> 01:43:05.119
they said at the time, to call this Black Sabbath

01:43:05.119 --> 01:43:08.680
because Ronnie joined, but suck it. This is a

01:43:08.680 --> 01:43:13.539
Black Sabbath album. It was just the next level.

01:43:13.939 --> 01:43:17.619
It sucks that it happened with Oz, but that's

01:43:17.619 --> 01:43:22.359
how life goes, man. He threw it away a little

01:43:22.359 --> 01:43:25.140
bit. I've never wanted to hear Ozzy sing these

01:43:25.140 --> 01:43:27.930
songs, though, have you? No, I don't think so.

01:43:28.069 --> 01:43:31.109
No, just Ronnie. Yeah, good observation. True.

01:43:31.850 --> 01:43:34.789
Wouldn't work. You're right. Whereas Ronnie can

01:43:34.789 --> 01:43:38.170
do a very good job singing Ozzy's tunes. I agree.

01:43:38.189 --> 01:43:40.189
Because he shows a lot of respect to the way

01:43:40.189 --> 01:43:43.449
you remember them being sung. Yes. Ronnie can

01:43:43.449 --> 01:43:48.590
sing anything. Yeah. Yeah, Ronnie was very respectful

01:43:48.590 --> 01:43:51.289
in spite of their differences with each other.

01:43:51.930 --> 01:43:54.449
And the way he would sing Ozzy's songs, I'm saying.

01:43:54.810 --> 01:43:58.409
Yeah, I was. always curious to see what Ozzy

01:43:58.409 --> 01:44:02.630
would have sounded like, what his spin on say

01:44:02.630 --> 01:44:05.750
the title track would have been. I always thought

01:44:05.750 --> 01:44:07.449
that that would, and especially when you grow

01:44:07.449 --> 01:44:09.689
up listening to like Maiden and hearing Bruce

01:44:09.689 --> 01:44:12.810
do his interpretation of the Paul D 'Anno stuff,

01:44:13.130 --> 01:44:17.229
the Blaise Bailey stuff. So obviously that's

01:44:17.229 --> 01:44:20.510
something that always, you know, stuck in my

01:44:20.510 --> 01:44:25.039
head. Apparently Children of the Sea was written

01:44:25.039 --> 01:44:27.060
for Ozzy, wasn't it? And I think he actually

01:44:27.060 --> 01:44:31.300
sang it at first before they recorded it on the

01:44:31.300 --> 01:44:36.579
album. Could be. I'm sure I've read that in one

01:44:36.579 --> 01:44:39.180
of the books or heard it from one of the band

01:44:39.180 --> 01:44:44.340
before, yeah. I'll have to listen to that and

01:44:44.340 --> 01:44:46.840
see if I could hear that in my head, but it might

01:44:46.840 --> 01:44:55.500
work. The funny thing there, though, I think,

01:44:55.579 --> 01:44:58.420
well, the lyrics would have been completely different

01:44:58.420 --> 01:45:00.859
because Ronnie wrote all the lyrics on this album.

01:45:01.960 --> 01:45:07.979
And let's not forget, Geezer kind of came into

01:45:07.979 --> 01:45:11.159
the fold late on this because he was dealing

01:45:11.159 --> 01:45:17.260
with substance and he was in detox and he apparently

01:45:17.260 --> 01:45:20.880
wasn't going to Jeff Nichols, I believe, plays

01:45:20.880 --> 01:45:23.779
some bass, or at least that was rumored, or maybe

01:45:23.779 --> 01:45:27.279
on the demos he played. Yeah, I think there's

01:45:27.279 --> 01:45:32.100
a recording of him playing the title track. Yeah,

01:45:32.119 --> 01:45:34.140
and let's not forget, Ronnie was a bass player

01:45:34.140 --> 01:45:39.319
as well. He played bass in Elf. Yeah, he's actually

01:45:39.319 --> 01:45:44.600
a very, very decent bass player. Yeah. The interesting

01:45:44.600 --> 01:45:47.180
thing about this album for me was it was kind

01:45:47.180 --> 01:45:50.010
of a bit of a, what's it going to be like? Because

01:45:50.010 --> 01:45:52.710
obviously we'd heard Black Sabbath with Ozzy

01:45:52.710 --> 01:45:55.010
and then Ozzy had gone. And then you're kind

01:45:55.010 --> 01:45:57.909
of thinking, well, is it going to be any good?

01:45:58.090 --> 01:45:59.689
You know, because you're kind of used to all

01:45:59.689 --> 01:46:02.310
that sort of, you know, what Black Sabbath were

01:46:02.310 --> 01:46:05.829
beforehand, which was kind of a slower 70s sort

01:46:05.829 --> 01:46:09.789
of almost bluesy influence, demonized sort of,

01:46:09.789 --> 01:46:13.449
you know, that sort of stuff going on. And then

01:46:13.449 --> 01:46:17.420
suddenly you heard. I heard Neon Knights. I went

01:46:17.420 --> 01:46:20.140
around to a friend of mine and he had the single

01:46:20.140 --> 01:46:22.779
Neon Knights and he put it on his little record

01:46:22.779 --> 01:46:25.079
player, which we all had in our bedrooms, and

01:46:25.079 --> 01:46:27.859
he stuck it on and I just looked and I think

01:46:27.859 --> 01:46:30.300
my jaw dropped and I thought, what the hell?

01:46:30.680 --> 01:46:33.560
I couldn't imagine that Black Sabbath were doing

01:46:33.560 --> 01:46:37.880
this kind of full -on production and this amazing...

01:46:37.880 --> 01:46:40.300
Well, it was quite commercial as well, but it

01:46:40.300 --> 01:46:43.579
was just... an amazing sound very very different

01:46:43.579 --> 01:46:47.880
as well to what came before but just very welcome

01:46:47.880 --> 01:46:51.380
at the time you know that's interesting because

01:46:51.380 --> 01:46:54.319
you've said almost the same thing for priest

01:46:54.319 --> 01:46:58.920
and this yeah they're released very close to

01:46:58.920 --> 01:47:02.479
one another obviously the same year so i wonder

01:47:02.479 --> 01:47:08.300
what other albums like in 79 were really kind

01:47:08.300 --> 01:47:13.960
of pushing them To go in that direction. You

01:47:13.960 --> 01:47:18.359
can say the same thing about the number one pick

01:47:18.359 --> 01:47:26.800
in this 1980s list. I have a feeling. Yes. We'll

01:47:26.800 --> 01:47:31.479
get to that. We'll get to that soon. I think

01:47:31.479 --> 01:47:35.520
so. All right. Maybe we'll have to visit 79 somewhere

01:47:35.520 --> 01:47:38.430
down the road, Victor. Yeah, well, that's the

01:47:38.430 --> 01:47:41.729
plans. Don't worry. Final thing about Heaven

01:47:41.729 --> 01:47:43.909
and Hell, just a final thing, very quickly. The

01:47:43.909 --> 01:47:47.909
bass sounded amazing. Yes. I mean, the bass was,

01:47:47.970 --> 01:47:50.069
that was the first time I noticed a bass on an

01:47:50.069 --> 01:47:54.329
album. True. I just want to. You know, you're

01:47:54.329 --> 01:47:57.350
right. Geezer is amazing on this album. He's

01:47:57.350 --> 01:48:00.250
all over it. It doesn't be the same without him

01:48:00.250 --> 01:48:02.630
doing that and playing like that. Yeah. Perfect

01:48:02.630 --> 01:48:06.720
example is Lady Evil. There's a compilation that

01:48:06.720 --> 01:48:09.800
I have, which is where I was introduced to some

01:48:09.800 --> 01:48:11.899
of the other tracks off of this for the first

01:48:11.899 --> 01:48:15.840
time. And Lady Evil kicks it off. And you hear

01:48:15.840 --> 01:48:19.000
just that thunderous bass at the beginning. And

01:48:19.000 --> 01:48:21.640
it's like, wow, what is this? That's awesome.

01:48:21.819 --> 01:48:25.199
Just that whole low end, that whole groove there.

01:48:26.039 --> 01:48:30.199
Makes someone like Brad want to pick up a bass

01:48:30.199 --> 01:48:36.300
and put on red pants. We need to see that again

01:48:36.300 --> 01:48:44.739
today. Yeah. All right. So are we ready for number

01:48:44.739 --> 01:48:50.260
two? Yeah. Do you need us to tell you what it

01:48:50.260 --> 01:48:55.960
is? You may be surprised at what it is. Yeah,

01:48:55.960 --> 01:48:59.380
maybe. I'm feeling like I'm ready for number

01:48:59.380 --> 01:49:08.659
two. Let's see here. So released the 12th of

01:49:08.659 --> 01:49:15.380
September, 1980. Recorded between March and April

01:49:15.380 --> 01:49:20.520
of 80 at Ridge Farm Studios in Respert, England.

01:49:20.859 --> 01:49:26.880
Clocking in at 39 minutes, 31 seconds. Produced

01:49:26.880 --> 01:49:33.279
by Robert John Mutt -Lang. Fucking with you guys.

01:49:34.819 --> 01:49:43.239
Wait a minute. That would have been interesting

01:49:43.239 --> 01:49:49.500
though. Sharon did not approve of that. Label

01:49:49.500 --> 01:49:52.680
is jet produced by Ozzy Osbourne, Randy Rhodes,

01:49:52.779 --> 01:49:57.020
Bob Daisley, and Lee Kerslake singles, crazy

01:49:57.020 --> 01:50:02.210
train. And Mr. Crowley, obviously. The number

01:50:02.210 --> 01:50:08.550
two album is Blizzard of Oz by Ozzy Osbourne.

01:50:10.270 --> 01:50:12.710
Say the same thing about the bass. It stands

01:50:12.710 --> 01:50:17.090
out on this album just as well. It was what was

01:50:17.090 --> 01:50:22.489
in the water at the time. Good question. But

01:50:22.489 --> 01:50:26.229
I mean, this is funny because I was looking at

01:50:26.229 --> 01:50:29.649
when I was figuring out where I was going to

01:50:29.649 --> 01:50:32.699
place this on my list. This was my number two.

01:50:33.739 --> 01:50:37.340
And only because I've listened to these songs

01:50:37.340 --> 01:50:40.279
so much, similar to what you said, Dan, about

01:50:40.279 --> 01:50:44.539
the zoo. I've listened to this album so much

01:50:44.539 --> 01:50:47.079
over the years that it's one of those albums

01:50:47.079 --> 01:50:50.260
that I can listen to once and say, okay, I'll

01:50:50.260 --> 01:50:53.300
put it away until next year. You know, outside

01:50:53.300 --> 01:50:56.939
of a revelation, mother earth and steal away

01:50:56.939 --> 01:51:00.000
the night, like the rest of the album. I've listened

01:51:00.000 --> 01:51:03.800
to it so much. I mean, I don't know, Crazy Train,

01:51:04.000 --> 01:51:07.239
Goodbye to Romance, Suicide Solution, and Mr.

01:51:07.500 --> 01:51:11.380
Crowley are on U .S. radio or were on U .S. radio

01:51:11.380 --> 01:51:15.020
every single day when I still lived in the States.

01:51:15.380 --> 01:51:17.819
No Bone Movies is something that I did to myself

01:51:17.819 --> 01:51:20.340
because once I got tribute, that was the first

01:51:20.340 --> 01:51:24.399
time that I heard that track. And I played it

01:51:24.399 --> 01:51:27.899
over and over and over again because it was just

01:51:27.899 --> 01:51:29.760
new to me. It was so different. That and Flying

01:51:29.760 --> 01:51:35.159
High again was the first times I had ever heard

01:51:35.159 --> 01:51:39.180
those songs. So I played them to death. But this

01:51:39.180 --> 01:51:42.720
album is huge. I mean, you talk, Ed, you talk

01:51:42.720 --> 01:51:45.560
about how Motorhead was such a big influence

01:51:45.560 --> 01:51:50.220
on thrash, but without Revelation Mother Earth.

01:51:51.310 --> 01:51:54.130
You don't have battery. You don't have blackened.

01:51:54.489 --> 01:51:58.090
You don't have countless other thrash songs with

01:51:58.090 --> 01:52:02.189
those acoustic intros that just kick into full

01:52:02.189 --> 01:52:07.109
on just metal. And even I would even say that

01:52:07.109 --> 01:52:11.310
fade the black comes out of revelation mother

01:52:11.310 --> 01:52:14.590
earth. I think that, you know, yeah. And, and

01:52:14.590 --> 01:52:17.310
I mentioned this to Charlie Bonante years ago,

01:52:17.350 --> 01:52:21.100
who who's had a bigger influence. on metal music

01:52:21.100 --> 01:52:24.300
from a guitar standpoint. I said, Tony, I owe

01:52:24.300 --> 01:52:27.039
me or Randy Rhodes. And he said, Oh, Randy Rhodes

01:52:27.039 --> 01:52:29.279
without a doubt, or I'm sorry, Tony, I owe me

01:52:29.279 --> 01:52:32.720
without a doubt. And I said, you can't, okay,

01:52:32.760 --> 01:52:36.340
but you can't discount Randy Rhodes importance

01:52:36.340 --> 01:52:41.039
because before, and even diary of a madman diary

01:52:41.039 --> 01:52:43.260
of a madman is kind of similar to revelation

01:52:43.260 --> 01:52:47.439
mother earth with that classic nylon string guitar

01:52:47.439 --> 01:52:51.560
going into the full on electric. so many bands

01:52:51.560 --> 01:52:56.739
copied that i mean i don't think that there's

01:52:56.739 --> 01:53:00.600
any denying and how important this album is for

01:53:00.600 --> 01:53:03.380
metal and people can talk about how commercial

01:53:03.380 --> 01:53:07.060
you know crazy train is because it became commercial

01:53:07.060 --> 01:53:09.760
how commercial some of the other tracks off of

01:53:09.760 --> 01:53:14.659
this became but at the time you know it was huge

01:53:14.659 --> 01:53:18.439
i remember requesting crazy train at my uh roller

01:53:18.439 --> 01:53:20.920
skating rink And they were like, yeah, I'm not

01:53:20.920 --> 01:53:22.840
sure we can play that or not. Okay, we'll squeeze

01:53:22.840 --> 01:53:25.960
it in here for you. They would play it. And now

01:53:25.960 --> 01:53:27.819
we're all like, please stop playing that song.

01:53:27.939 --> 01:53:30.399
Yeah. Well, I would request this and Dirty Deeds

01:53:30.399 --> 01:53:36.359
all the time. Anyway, Blizzard of Oz. Go ahead,

01:53:36.380 --> 01:53:38.739
Dan. You're getting close to the mic. We didn't

01:53:38.739 --> 01:53:41.159
know what a bone movie is in the States. That

01:53:41.159 --> 01:53:44.520
wasn't a term. And then we got to hear Ozzy talk

01:53:44.520 --> 01:53:47.060
about that. Somebody interviewed, and I don't

01:53:47.060 --> 01:53:50.260
remember where. Say, what's that? And he got

01:53:50.260 --> 01:53:52.640
to explain it. And that was fun. So that was

01:53:52.640 --> 01:53:57.439
a fun clip. It's out there somewhere. Who else

01:53:57.439 --> 01:54:00.920
wants to talk Blizzard of Oz? Well, again, this

01:54:00.920 --> 01:54:04.220
was another album which came in, you know, after

01:54:04.220 --> 01:54:07.119
Black Sabbath. And we were sort of wondering

01:54:07.119 --> 01:54:10.399
whether Ozzy could do it on his own. And, you

01:54:10.399 --> 01:54:12.239
know, he only had to put on the first track.

01:54:12.340 --> 01:54:15.439
And I don't know. It was just amazing. But it

01:54:15.439 --> 01:54:17.079
wouldn't have been the same without Randy Rhodes

01:54:17.079 --> 01:54:20.659
because Randy Rhodes was, you know, he brought

01:54:20.659 --> 01:54:24.000
on Aussie sound and made it into something a

01:54:24.000 --> 01:54:27.119
little bit different. And it was just incredible.

01:54:27.220 --> 01:54:29.520
I really liked Mr. Crowley. I thought that was

01:54:29.520 --> 01:54:32.859
an amazing song. Obviously, at the time, I liked

01:54:32.859 --> 01:54:35.180
Crazy Train. Now I've kind of heard it to death.

01:54:35.239 --> 01:54:37.479
But even so, you know, I still play it and enjoy

01:54:37.479 --> 01:54:40.060
it. But at the time when you first heard it,

01:54:40.119 --> 01:54:44.810
it was such an amazing track. And it is an amazing

01:54:44.810 --> 01:54:47.069
collection of songs. I would think that there's

01:54:47.069 --> 01:54:49.010
a few songs he did late in his career that could

01:54:49.010 --> 01:54:51.930
have probably improved this album. I mean, there's

01:54:51.930 --> 01:54:55.210
a few songs along the way that I like, which

01:54:55.210 --> 01:54:57.430
could have made it a little bit better. But at

01:54:57.430 --> 01:55:00.470
the time, it was one of the great albums that

01:55:00.470 --> 01:55:03.890
came out in that year. And it brought Ozzy back

01:55:03.890 --> 01:55:08.350
onto the scene. It put him back into number one

01:55:08.350 --> 01:55:11.409
status again. And that's where we wanted him.

01:55:12.399 --> 01:55:14.819
The other thing that I want to add real quickly,

01:55:14.960 --> 01:55:18.079
kind of touching upon what you said, that we

01:55:18.079 --> 01:55:19.659
couldn't have had this without Randy Rhodes.

01:55:20.359 --> 01:55:22.779
Listening to any of the live albums that they've

01:55:22.779 --> 01:55:25.060
released with Randy, I mean, I've listened to

01:55:25.060 --> 01:55:27.800
Tribute so much, but when they released the box

01:55:27.800 --> 01:55:29.960
set, which I actually have behind me, and they

01:55:29.960 --> 01:55:32.359
released that Ozzy Live album, which was another

01:55:32.359 --> 01:55:35.859
live recording with Randy without all of the

01:55:35.859 --> 01:55:38.340
overdubs like they did with Tribute, where they

01:55:38.340 --> 01:55:43.520
cleaned up a lot of that album. I still put that

01:55:43.520 --> 01:55:48.640
on and I get goosebumps just hearing Randy just

01:55:48.640 --> 01:55:51.819
slide on the fret board without it being perfect

01:55:51.819 --> 01:55:55.119
and just different things that he was doing with

01:55:55.119 --> 01:55:57.899
his playing. Even when he plays the Sabbath stuff.

01:55:58.020 --> 01:56:00.600
Yeah. Okay. It's not Tony Iommi. It's tuned different,

01:56:00.619 --> 01:56:04.619
but there was just something special to his playing

01:56:04.619 --> 01:56:06.979
that brought a different life out of those songs.

01:56:07.199 --> 01:56:13.439
Yeah. Ed, you have Blizzard behind you. I sure

01:56:13.439 --> 01:56:17.460
do. By the time that I was able to start collecting

01:56:17.460 --> 01:56:21.119
records or tapes that I would buy at the mall,

01:56:21.640 --> 01:56:27.600
probably Bark at the Moon was out. I pretty much

01:56:27.600 --> 01:56:31.920
bought every Ozzy album that I could right away

01:56:31.920 --> 01:56:40.119
and listened to all of them equally. Yeah, we've

01:56:40.119 --> 01:56:42.119
talked about this album quite a bit in the past,

01:56:42.119 --> 01:56:43.659
and there's not a whole lot more to say than

01:56:43.659 --> 01:56:48.920
what we've covered before. And I just echo everything

01:56:48.920 --> 01:56:52.479
you all have said about the great songs on here,

01:56:52.640 --> 01:56:55.720
especially Revelation, Mother Earth. What an

01:56:55.720 --> 01:56:58.880
epic tune. And I agree with you. I think that

01:56:58.880 --> 01:57:03.859
my favorite thrash metal are bands like Metallica

01:57:03.859 --> 01:57:07.140
and Megadeth, where after they came out with

01:57:07.140 --> 01:57:09.949
their first records, where they thrashed it out

01:57:09.949 --> 01:57:13.130
as much as they could, and then they're looking

01:57:13.130 --> 01:57:16.350
into what directions they can go with their music.

01:57:17.750 --> 01:57:21.409
Like with Ride the Lightning, that album, songs

01:57:21.409 --> 01:57:23.930
like Fade to Black and Battery, you're starting

01:57:23.930 --> 01:57:28.510
to see the virtuosity of guitar players and such

01:57:28.510 --> 01:57:32.590
being inspired by guitarists like Brandy. And

01:57:32.590 --> 01:57:38.270
these albums creating, you know, New albums,

01:57:38.409 --> 01:57:42.029
new songs like Fade to Black that had both that

01:57:42.029 --> 01:57:44.850
hardcore and punk sound, but also a lot of that

01:57:44.850 --> 01:57:50.310
classic heavy metal sound. Even coming from some

01:57:50.310 --> 01:57:52.510
of the bands that were starting to become more

01:57:52.510 --> 01:57:55.210
commercial, like Judas Priest and Ozzy were on

01:57:55.210 --> 01:57:59.229
this record. And that's what I've always loved

01:57:59.229 --> 01:58:02.050
with my favorite thrash metal bands is hearing

01:58:02.050 --> 01:58:06.640
those mix of sounds that I've always... you know,

01:58:06.640 --> 01:58:09.319
appreciated in music that I listened to. Yeah.

01:58:11.539 --> 01:58:15.260
Cool. Brad, anything on this one? Uh, this was

01:58:15.260 --> 01:58:17.960
my number one, uh, for just the simple reason

01:58:17.960 --> 01:58:23.000
that I couldn't believe how good this was when

01:58:23.000 --> 01:58:25.899
I first dropped the needle. I was like, Oh my

01:58:25.899 --> 01:58:28.880
gosh, I, I really didn't expect much out of Ozzy,

01:58:28.899 --> 01:58:31.520
uh, after all this stuff he'd been through. And,

01:58:31.539 --> 01:58:38.909
and, uh, um, This album is just, it's just, it's

01:58:38.909 --> 01:58:42.750
just so good. And that's, that's all I can say.

01:58:43.109 --> 01:58:45.909
Luckily I got to see him with Randy Rhodes twice.

01:58:46.430 --> 01:58:49.510
Wow. Where they played most of this album, but

01:58:49.510 --> 01:58:53.569
it pretty much did the same set both times. He

01:58:53.569 --> 01:58:56.909
did the same set for 40 years. Yeah, that's true.

01:58:57.489 --> 01:58:59.550
That's true. I was, I was real disappointed that

01:58:59.550 --> 01:59:02.329
after Diary of a Madman came out, they still

01:59:02.329 --> 01:59:05.220
only played. I mean, before that album came out,

01:59:05.239 --> 01:59:08.439
they played three songs off of it. And they played

01:59:08.439 --> 01:59:10.699
the same three songs the second time I saw them.

01:59:10.939 --> 01:59:13.520
I was like, come on, Ozzy, you know, get some

01:59:13.520 --> 01:59:15.220
more of these songs off this album in here. But

01:59:15.220 --> 01:59:20.880
anyway, this album is just, and I think it did

01:59:20.880 --> 01:59:26.180
so much for music, period. I mean, this album

01:59:26.180 --> 01:59:28.359
just built so much. And I think the number one

01:59:28.359 --> 01:59:32.380
album we're going to talk about also just gave

01:59:32.380 --> 01:59:36.000
a, just putting metal hard rock music so much

01:59:36.000 --> 01:59:39.479
higher into the, everybody, everybody knew it,

01:59:39.500 --> 01:59:42.460
you know, cross the, again, crossed lines. This

01:59:42.460 --> 01:59:45.979
album crossed, uh, crossed over outside of our

01:59:45.979 --> 01:59:48.979
group into other people. Everybody heard this

01:59:48.979 --> 01:59:52.300
stuff. Everybody still, still hears these songs.

01:59:52.619 --> 01:59:56.260
Yep. What three songs did they play off of diary

01:59:56.260 --> 01:59:59.819
of a mad man? Um, let's see flying high again.

02:00:00.119 --> 02:00:07.529
Um, believer. Yeah. Yeah. Or the mountains. So

02:00:07.529 --> 02:00:09.909
those are, those are the only three I ever heard

02:00:09.909 --> 02:00:14.250
him play. Yeah. And I thought, I thought that

02:00:14.250 --> 02:00:17.390
was weird. Of course, finding out that they'd

02:00:17.390 --> 02:00:20.710
recorded that second album before that they even

02:00:20.710 --> 02:00:25.430
toured in the U S was, you know, then they didn't

02:00:25.430 --> 02:00:28.069
release it. They just had recorded it. That all

02:00:28.069 --> 02:00:31.180
just was nuts. It was such a different world

02:00:31.180 --> 02:00:35.159
before the Internet, kids. We had to actually

02:00:35.159 --> 02:00:37.859
go to a show to find out who's in the band. Who's

02:00:37.859 --> 02:00:41.460
that guy? Who was in the band when you saw them

02:00:41.460 --> 02:00:44.500
live? It was the touring band. I mean, those

02:00:44.500 --> 02:00:46.859
guys, Bob Daisley and Lee Kerslake, they only

02:00:46.859 --> 02:00:50.060
toured the UK, right, Jeremy? The only shows

02:00:50.060 --> 02:00:53.020
they played were over there before they got sacked.

02:00:53.319 --> 02:00:55.439
And that was, again, after they did the second

02:00:55.439 --> 02:00:59.039
album. which I just thought was bizarre. I thought,

02:00:59.060 --> 02:01:00.800
Oh, the guy did they record them like at the

02:01:00.800 --> 02:01:05.220
same time, but they didn't. Yeah. Yeah. Just

02:01:05.220 --> 02:01:10.680
weird, weird stuff going on. Yeah. So yeah, you

02:01:10.680 --> 02:01:12.699
go to a concert and you don't know who's in the

02:01:12.699 --> 02:01:15.859
band till the lights hit the stage. And like,

02:01:15.899 --> 02:01:20.180
who's that guy? Yeah. I, I, I, I love Rudy Sarzo

02:01:20.180 --> 02:01:23.329
now, but at the time I hated him. I thought his

02:01:23.329 --> 02:01:25.869
his shenanigans, you know, playing over the top

02:01:25.869 --> 02:01:27.869
of the neck and everything is like, what? You

02:01:27.869 --> 02:01:33.430
know, dude, this isn't. Yeah, but he I love him

02:01:33.430 --> 02:01:36.050
now. He's he's an incredible bass player in spite

02:01:36.050 --> 02:01:39.310
of his posturing and his shenanigans back then.

02:01:40.689 --> 02:01:43.289
Yeah, he was kind of like a baby Yannick Gers.

02:01:44.989 --> 02:01:49.350
But this album is undeniable. I got off track

02:01:49.350 --> 02:01:53.250
and. If there's anybody out there who hasn't

02:01:53.250 --> 02:01:58.470
heard this album, you need to listen to it. Do

02:01:58.470 --> 02:02:02.909
it now. Well, after the show, after you've finished

02:02:02.909 --> 02:02:05.729
this show, then go listen to it. All right. So

02:02:05.729 --> 02:02:09.890
let's recap these really quickly. So at number

02:02:09.890 --> 02:02:13.189
10, Michael Shanker Group with Michael Shanker

02:02:13.189 --> 02:02:18.090
Group. Outstanding. Saxon, Wrong Arm of the Law

02:02:18.090 --> 02:02:21.739
at number nine. Completely brilliant. Scorpions,

02:02:21.739 --> 02:02:26.960
Animal Magnetism at eight. Octoon. Motorhead

02:02:26.960 --> 02:02:33.859
with Ace of Spades, number seven. Number six,

02:02:34.079 --> 02:02:39.000
Van Halen, Women and Children First. Number five,

02:02:39.199 --> 02:02:43.579
Iron Maiden with Iron Maiden. Number four, Judas

02:02:43.579 --> 02:02:48.399
Priest, British Steel. Number three, Black Sabbath,

02:02:48.520 --> 02:02:55.489
Heaven and Hell. Number two, Ozzy Osbourne with

02:02:55.489 --> 02:03:04.350
Blizzard of Oz. And. Number one. As many people

02:03:04.350 --> 02:03:09.850
have said, the greatest hard rock band to ever

02:03:09.850 --> 02:03:14.310
come out of America, Kansas. No, actually, this

02:03:14.310 --> 02:03:20.199
album was recorded. April to May 1980. Was released

02:03:20.199 --> 02:03:24.699
in July of 1980. Recorded at Campus Point in

02:03:24.699 --> 02:03:28.399
Nassau, Bahamas. 42 minutes, 11 seconds. Released

02:03:28.399 --> 02:03:36.079
on Atlantic Records. Produced by Mutt Lang. Singles,

02:03:36.119 --> 02:03:39.859
You Shoot All Night Long, Hell's Bells, Rock

02:03:39.859 --> 02:03:44.340
and Roll A Noise Pollution, and Back in Black.

02:03:45.449 --> 02:03:54.689
It is obviously Back in Black by ACDC. So there's

02:03:54.689 --> 02:03:57.850
always been the controversy of which is the bigger

02:03:57.850 --> 02:04:03.789
ACDC album, Back in Black or Highway to Hell.

02:04:04.470 --> 02:04:07.949
And it's funny because when we did the countdown,

02:04:08.310 --> 02:04:13.470
ACDC won, or obviously ACDC won, but Back in

02:04:13.470 --> 02:04:17.420
Black. was number one. And I remember that a

02:04:17.420 --> 02:04:19.659
lot of people were kind of up in arms with, what

02:04:19.659 --> 02:04:22.039
do you mean it was number one? This is one of

02:04:22.039 --> 02:04:26.460
the biggest selling albums of all time. If we

02:04:26.460 --> 02:04:32.659
talk about an album transcending genres, Hell's

02:04:32.659 --> 02:04:37.020
Bells, Shoot the Thrill, what do you do? What

02:04:37.020 --> 02:04:39.220
do you do for money, honey? Giving the dog a

02:04:39.220 --> 02:04:42.140
bone? Let me put my love into you. Back in black,

02:04:42.340 --> 02:04:44.800
you shook me all night long. Have a drink on

02:04:44.800 --> 02:04:48.119
me, shake a leg. Rock and roll ain't noise pollution.

02:04:49.020 --> 02:04:52.180
Charlie Benante once told me that ACDC didn't

02:04:52.180 --> 02:04:54.300
need a Greatest Hits album because it was called

02:04:54.300 --> 02:05:00.960
Back in Black. So much of this album has been

02:05:00.960 --> 02:05:08.060
sampled by rap artists. by different genres it's

02:05:08.060 --> 02:05:11.939
been used in movies it's been used all over the

02:05:11.939 --> 02:05:14.960
place again like i said it's one of the biggest

02:05:14.960 --> 02:05:17.899
selling albums of all time i think outside of

02:05:17.899 --> 02:05:21.819
metallica's black album this is like the second

02:05:21.819 --> 02:05:25.500
or third most sold album of the sound scan era

02:05:25.500 --> 02:05:30.899
in the states um i've had this album since 1980

02:05:30.899 --> 02:05:32.880
i've been lucky to have it i have an original

02:05:33.439 --> 02:05:39.520
Copy from 1980 behind me. Nice. I've played the

02:05:39.520 --> 02:05:42.000
ever living crap out of this. It is my brother's

02:05:42.000 --> 02:05:44.579
favorite band and his favorite album of all time.

02:05:45.279 --> 02:05:50.279
Um, so I've been listening to this since I was

02:05:50.279 --> 02:05:56.300
seven years old. It came out. Uh, what month

02:05:56.300 --> 02:05:59.119
did I say it came out in July? Yeah. I hadn't

02:05:59.119 --> 02:06:02.260
even turned seven yet. I was six and I knew,

02:06:02.760 --> 02:06:08.800
what AC's Back in Black was. So, Ed, you've got

02:06:08.800 --> 02:06:11.399
it behind you as well. It took me a while to

02:06:11.399 --> 02:06:13.680
figure out because of the glare. It's harder

02:06:13.680 --> 02:06:17.199
to see. I also got Brad's copy right here whenever

02:06:17.199 --> 02:06:21.340
he comes to visit. Oh, okay. And then after he's

02:06:21.340 --> 02:06:23.560
had this for a while, it'll be his number one.

02:06:24.579 --> 02:06:29.119
This was probably, I think it was my first, like,

02:06:29.159 --> 02:06:33.229
besides Joan Jett. I love rock and roll. I think

02:06:33.229 --> 02:06:36.470
Back in Black was the first hard rock record

02:06:36.470 --> 02:06:39.850
I got smuggled into the house, probably from

02:06:39.850 --> 02:06:42.670
a friend of mine. Yeah, I would go to one of

02:06:42.670 --> 02:06:45.329
my best friend's house and I'd see this. And

02:06:45.329 --> 02:06:48.470
I always loved this, too. Oh, yeah. Seeing this

02:06:48.470 --> 02:06:51.810
picture of Angus and just the black cover. I

02:06:51.810 --> 02:06:53.710
mean, just everything about this made me want

02:06:53.710 --> 02:06:58.340
to listen to it. From the first time I heard

02:06:58.340 --> 02:07:01.579
it, it was like a drug to me. I was instantly

02:07:01.579 --> 02:07:06.319
addicted to it. I probably had this album taken

02:07:06.319 --> 02:07:08.880
away from me more than any other record, especially

02:07:08.880 --> 02:07:11.960
because the bell gives you away if you're playing

02:07:11.960 --> 02:07:15.939
it and your mom hears it. I've bought so many

02:07:15.939 --> 02:07:21.100
copies of this record over the years. I love

02:07:21.100 --> 02:07:25.119
every bit of it. It's probably my desert island

02:07:25.119 --> 02:07:28.600
rock and roll. album too okay if this was the

02:07:28.600 --> 02:07:30.819
only one i could take with me this would be it

02:07:30.819 --> 02:07:34.619
it is hard though to decide because i'm i'm a

02:07:34.619 --> 02:07:39.060
much bigger fan of bon scott and the song let

02:07:39.060 --> 02:07:42.199
there be rock is probably my favorite song of

02:07:42.199 --> 02:07:48.199
all but this album is my favorite record of all

02:07:48.199 --> 02:07:52.619
not just from ac dc but most any rock band period

02:07:53.319 --> 02:07:57.079
And especially Hell's Bells. I just think it's

02:07:57.079 --> 02:07:58.939
almost hard for me to say whether I like that

02:07:58.939 --> 02:08:02.800
better or Let There Be Rock. And I also remember,

02:08:02.960 --> 02:08:05.520
too, when I would listen to The Metal Shop on

02:08:05.520 --> 02:08:10.119
Thursday nights at midnight, they would always

02:08:10.119 --> 02:08:13.819
have a bit where they would have a musical artist

02:08:13.819 --> 02:08:17.460
give a countdown of their top five favorite records.

02:08:18.220 --> 02:08:22.180
And because that was the early, mid -80s, often,

02:08:22.760 --> 02:08:25.140
Hell's Bells would be their number one song,

02:08:25.260 --> 02:08:27.340
and I just would always think that was cool as

02:08:27.340 --> 02:08:35.659
hell. And also, we talked about this before,

02:08:35.840 --> 02:08:38.380
I think this album is just perfectly produced.

02:08:39.020 --> 02:08:42.840
I don't know of a record that I've heard that

02:08:42.840 --> 02:08:46.100
sounds better to me than when I listen to this

02:08:46.100 --> 02:08:51.199
album. I feel closer to the music by the way,

02:08:51.199 --> 02:08:54.060
this is produced than most any album I've heard.

02:08:54.840 --> 02:08:57.520
You know, it's, it's on, you know, it's on this

02:08:57.520 --> 02:08:59.619
vinyl, but when I'm listening to it, it feels

02:08:59.619 --> 02:09:04.039
like I'm in the room with them. Right. And everything's

02:09:04.039 --> 02:09:06.279
just so clear. You know, every instrument is,

02:09:06.340 --> 02:09:10.260
is clear. Every guitar solo just feels like it

02:09:10.260 --> 02:09:13.760
just came out naturally and, you know, sings

02:09:13.760 --> 02:09:18.210
a song all on its own within the songs. Uh, every

02:09:18.210 --> 02:09:21.369
song is groovy, uh, from start to finish. It's

02:09:21.369 --> 02:09:25.970
just a good time. I'll let you all take over

02:09:25.970 --> 02:09:31.510
from here. I could go on. Brad back in black.

02:09:32.229 --> 02:09:37.770
Yeah. Um, yeah, just the cells alone tells you,

02:09:37.810 --> 02:09:40.909
uh, the power of this album, the power of this

02:09:40.909 --> 02:09:45.369
band. And to, to do that after changing singers,

02:09:45.430 --> 02:09:47.909
I mean, unlike black Sabbath, where there was

02:09:47.909 --> 02:09:51.529
a huge musical difference between the last album

02:09:51.529 --> 02:09:54.310
with Ozzy and the first album with Ronnie, this

02:09:54.310 --> 02:09:57.930
just picked up. I think it stayed true to what

02:09:57.930 --> 02:10:01.909
ACDC was all about. I think Jeremy's going to

02:10:01.909 --> 02:10:03.390
probably have something to say about that because

02:10:03.390 --> 02:10:08.949
I know he's a real lover of the first era of

02:10:08.949 --> 02:10:15.310
ACDC. And Brian Johnson's certainly, I mean,

02:10:15.310 --> 02:10:22.340
not... Not the sole singer of, you know, that

02:10:22.340 --> 02:10:30.560
you got before. But, yeah, it's just, again,

02:10:31.159 --> 02:10:35.399
a band that has crossed all barriers. I mean,

02:10:35.420 --> 02:10:38.899
way outside of the music we listen to. Everybody,

02:10:38.979 --> 02:10:41.939
you can play one of the two big songs off of

02:10:41.939 --> 02:10:44.239
this album for anybody walking down the street

02:10:44.239 --> 02:10:47.939
and they wouldn't know the song. How many Iron

02:10:47.939 --> 02:10:53.359
Maiden songs can you do that with? Yeah. You

02:10:53.359 --> 02:10:55.479
know, a country artist would still listen to

02:10:55.479 --> 02:11:00.159
ACDC, maybe even jazz, but it goes across all

02:11:00.159 --> 02:11:03.399
genres. The album has never aged. It's as good

02:11:03.399 --> 02:11:08.380
then as it is now. It's perfect. And I think

02:11:08.380 --> 02:11:12.020
if you put in all the years, 80 through the whole

02:11:12.020 --> 02:11:17.260
decade, this would be it. The top dog. So if

02:11:17.260 --> 02:11:20.220
you broke down all your ones, Victor, from all

02:11:20.220 --> 02:11:22.300
the years you've done this, I think this is the

02:11:22.300 --> 02:11:26.560
overall winner as well. Amen, Metal Dan. I agree.

02:11:27.239 --> 02:11:35.100
We may have to find out. Ooh. We may have to

02:11:35.100 --> 02:11:40.560
do a favorite album of the 80s. If you took your

02:11:40.560 --> 02:11:43.279
one through fives of the decade that you've done

02:11:43.279 --> 02:11:46.630
and threw them in the pot. And say, okay, everybody,

02:11:46.649 --> 02:11:52.069
now pick out of this. I think so. Yeah. Let's

02:11:52.069 --> 02:11:53.989
hear what Jeremy's got to say. Come on, Jeremy.

02:11:54.189 --> 02:11:59.250
Yeah, but I think that this album wasn't created

02:11:59.250 --> 02:12:03.529
overnight. It was created on the back of at least

02:12:03.529 --> 02:12:06.670
three amazing albums. You had Parage, Let There

02:12:06.670 --> 02:12:09.710
Be Rock, and Highway to Hell. And so the band

02:12:09.710 --> 02:12:13.050
were building up to this. And a lot of the songs

02:12:13.050 --> 02:12:15.409
were written for Bon Scott. I mean, Bon Scott

02:12:15.409 --> 02:12:17.949
was going to sing these songs and then obviously,

02:12:18.029 --> 02:12:21.170
sadly, he died and they had to get in another

02:12:21.170 --> 02:12:26.609
singer. And the only thing I would say is that

02:12:26.609 --> 02:12:28.949
I always thought that Back in Black was the first

02:12:28.949 --> 02:12:30.970
track on the album because I always put it on

02:12:30.970 --> 02:12:33.369
and suddenly Back in Black comes on because I

02:12:33.369 --> 02:12:35.750
might have flipped it over the wrong side. And

02:12:35.750 --> 02:12:37.289
I'm thinking, yeah, this is the first track.

02:12:37.329 --> 02:12:40.670
Oh, no, I forgot. It's Hell's Bells. So I think

02:12:40.670 --> 02:12:42.430
Back in Black should have been the first song.

02:12:43.100 --> 02:12:45.699
I agree. And I think that Hell's Bell should

02:12:45.699 --> 02:12:47.479
have been the last song on the album because

02:12:47.479 --> 02:12:51.060
it sounds kind of slow with the bells. Anyway,

02:12:51.119 --> 02:12:54.220
that's a minor gripe because in the old days,

02:12:54.300 --> 02:12:56.979
you know, they must have agonized over what the

02:12:56.979 --> 02:13:00.109
order of the songs they were going to put. But

02:13:00.109 --> 02:13:02.789
there was obviously a number of hit singles on

02:13:02.789 --> 02:13:06.189
here. But there's a reason why ACDC is so popular.

02:13:06.289 --> 02:13:09.470
And scientists have actually discovered it. They've

02:13:09.470 --> 02:13:11.529
discovered it because, yeah, they're in line

02:13:11.529 --> 02:13:17.729
with the heartbeat. It's in line with the heartbeat.

02:13:17.890 --> 02:13:20.289
And every human loves a heartbeat because they

02:13:20.289 --> 02:13:23.590
love to hear the baby heartbeat. And so that's

02:13:23.590 --> 02:13:25.829
why they are so successful. That's why they have

02:13:25.829 --> 02:13:29.600
so much mass appeal. But, you know, they have

02:13:29.600 --> 02:13:31.939
great songs that we can all sing along to. You

02:13:31.939 --> 02:13:35.680
know, they have those great choruses. And they

02:13:35.680 --> 02:13:37.460
peaked on this album. There's no doubt about

02:13:37.460 --> 02:13:39.989
it. They peaked. did produce some good stuff

02:13:39.989 --> 02:13:42.569
after, but they never produced anything as good

02:13:42.569 --> 02:13:44.310
as this. So I think we can all agree on that.

02:13:44.409 --> 02:13:47.949
And it sold so many copies because it reaches

02:13:47.949 --> 02:13:50.970
out to so many people who may not even like heavy

02:13:50.970 --> 02:13:54.510
metal. They just like a bit of rock music with

02:13:54.510 --> 02:13:57.909
their disco or with their new wave music. They

02:13:57.909 --> 02:14:01.170
just know ACDC as one of those famous bands of

02:14:01.170 --> 02:14:06.359
the time. And they like ACDC. been to an ACDC

02:14:06.359 --> 02:14:08.899
concert with someone who just likes ACDC and

02:14:08.899 --> 02:14:11.260
doesn't like any other heavy metal music at all.

02:14:12.020 --> 02:14:14.619
And it's weird, but that's the way it is. And

02:14:14.619 --> 02:14:17.859
it is an incredible album. Is it my favorite

02:14:17.859 --> 02:14:20.699
album by them? Possibly not, but that doesn't

02:14:20.699 --> 02:14:23.520
demean it because I still love it. Like I love

02:14:23.520 --> 02:14:31.189
both of my daughters. Yeah. Here's the power

02:14:31.189 --> 02:14:34.470
of ACDC. OK, I think of all the concerts I've

02:14:34.470 --> 02:14:37.069
been to and you're waiting for the headlining

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band to come on and they're playing music over

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the PA. Everybody's chatting and blah, blah,

02:14:41.329 --> 02:14:44.789
blah. And then an ACDC song comes on. Everybody

02:14:44.789 --> 02:14:48.949
stops talking and everybody starts rocking and

02:14:48.949 --> 02:14:52.229
starts singing with them. And it's almost it's

02:14:52.229 --> 02:14:54.510
just unbelievable the power that their music

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has. over the masses of the people. It's just

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incredible. I can never stop moving my left foot.

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So whenever an ACDC track comes on, my foot's

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moving in time to the beat. And your whole body

02:15:11.510 --> 02:15:14.109
moves in time. It's like when you go to a disco

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and there's a bit of disco music on it. Everyone

02:15:16.029 --> 02:15:18.590
feels that disco music, even if you're not that

02:15:18.590 --> 02:15:21.510
keen on disco music. And it's kind of like the

02:15:21.510 --> 02:15:24.710
same with ACDC. It comes on and your body is

02:15:24.710 --> 02:15:29.090
moving in time to it. Yeah, it's just amazing.

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So this deserves to be number one. And yeah.

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What a great list. Yeah, the show they're doing

02:15:37.670 --> 02:15:40.430
right now was worthwhile seeing. They're in the

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States. They're playing Vegas again. It's still

02:15:43.890 --> 02:15:47.489
good. It's just a massive production, you know,

02:15:47.529 --> 02:15:50.670
so getting up close is expensive and all that,

02:15:50.810 --> 02:15:52.949
but it was still worthwhile to see them last

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year. I enjoyed it for what it was worth, even

02:15:56.369 --> 02:15:59.529
with Malcolm gone, and I'm practically in tears

02:15:59.529 --> 02:16:02.859
without Malcolm there, but it's good. The weird

02:16:02.859 --> 02:16:04.420
thing about this is none of us have actually

02:16:04.420 --> 02:16:07.460
mentioned the words Angus Young yet. I mean,

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I mean, it's just, I mean, he's just amazing.

02:16:10.119 --> 02:16:12.960
I mean, what a guitarist. Yeah. And his own style

02:16:12.960 --> 02:16:15.460
and his own, the way he delivers it, the way

02:16:15.460 --> 02:16:18.720
his persona and the shorts and the, you know,

02:16:18.720 --> 02:16:21.920
the, the school uniform that he's adopted, but

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he was still doing it on this album. And, and,

02:16:24.399 --> 02:16:26.399
you know, the solos are there and the riffs are

02:16:26.399 --> 02:16:28.739
there. And that's what that's, he's the backbone

02:16:28.739 --> 02:16:33.239
of ACDC. Yeah, he was my guitar hero growing

02:16:33.239 --> 02:16:37.079
up because of all that energy he had on stage.

02:16:39.299 --> 02:16:43.159
Yeah, easy. I mean, that's a lot of people, I

02:16:43.159 --> 02:16:46.559
think, loved him because of that. I remember

02:16:46.559 --> 02:16:49.239
seeing them for the first time and my brother

02:16:49.239 --> 02:16:53.040
saying to me, you know, just wait, wait to see

02:16:53.040 --> 02:16:55.780
his solo because he's not going to stop moving

02:16:55.780 --> 02:16:57.159
and he's still going to be playing all these

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notes. Awesome. So ACDC Back in Black is our

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number one. Next month, we will be back with

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year two of the Signals from Mars Hall of Fame.

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I want to thank Jeremy, Ed, Brad, Metal Dan,

02:17:19.760 --> 02:17:26.360
Anthony Mackey, Sean Richman. Who else was here?

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Oh, Edgar Winterson, who joined us late. And

02:17:31.600 --> 02:17:35.840
if anyone else, we've had some steady watchers

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throughout the show who haven't pronounced themselves.

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Hope everyone enjoyed the episode as much as

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I enjoyed discussing all of these great albums.

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It was a difficult year to pick albums because

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there's so much good music. We talked about the

02:17:53.819 --> 02:17:56.459
top 20. You go back and listen to the beginning.

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But there are 51 albums that people voted on.

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And there's a lot of top quality things. I mean,

02:18:04.219 --> 02:18:07.159
for example, an album that made my list that

02:18:07.159 --> 02:18:09.739
didn't make a whole heck of a lot of other people's

02:18:09.739 --> 02:18:13.159
lists, a few people's lists was the queen album,

02:18:13.239 --> 02:18:19.079
the game. So many good songs on it, but yet a

02:18:19.079 --> 02:18:22.219
lot of people didn't vote for it because there

02:18:22.219 --> 02:18:28.280
was so much good music here. And there are others

02:18:28.280 --> 02:18:31.780
on here that, Should have probably, you know,

02:18:31.819 --> 02:18:35.040
if they were if they'd come out other years,

02:18:35.120 --> 02:18:39.040
could have possibly been number one for that

02:18:39.040 --> 02:18:41.979
year. But they came out in 1980. They came out

02:18:41.979 --> 02:18:48.780
in a magical year. So, again, thanks, everyone,

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for watching or listening to this. If you didn't

02:18:52.260 --> 02:18:56.440
vote this time around, vote next month when we

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do the Hall of Fame. And that is it, folks. Thank

02:19:00.659 --> 02:19:04.659
you so much for joining us. We will see you next

02:19:04.659 --> 02:19:09.280
time right here on Signals from Mars. See you,

02:19:09.280 --> 02:19:24.219
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