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Welcome one and all to episode 438 of Signals

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from Mars. I'm your host, Victor. And for this

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episode, Jeremy and Ed are back. We are discussing

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albums that came out in December of 2025. Getting

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ready for two nights. Livestream where we do

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our 2025 countdown. Talk about it next. I'm ready.

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on for example the show that we're recording

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and these episodes the for example the the monthly

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album reviews is us just trying to share what

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We were into for that month, you know, for people

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that say, oh, there's no good new music. I say

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this over and over again ad nauseum, but there's

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always good music coming out. You just have to

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search for it. So we try to do our part to help

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out with that whole thing. And yeah. Okay. So

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listen, we recorded the episode in the middle

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of January. The audio. Podcast is coming out

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on the 30th of January. It's coming out shortly

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after recording this. And you know what? The

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music lives on. So even if you jump on that train

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when the album comes out, that's awesome. But

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if you jump on it afterwards, who cares so long

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as you got into it. So hopefully we're doing

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our part to help promote music that hopefully

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will end up becoming part of the soundtrack of

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your life. And yeah, and I always say this. It's

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always fun to hear people say, hey, my wife's

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going to kill me. I spent too much money this

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weekend because I picked up all these albums

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that you guys were talking about. So share that

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views a week which again if you're comparing

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it to mr beast or something like that it's peanuts

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uh but for a little independent podcast that's

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been around since 2009 it's not too shabby folks

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and i'm pretty happy about it so maybe it's just

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me being naive and little things um making me

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happy whatever anyway let's get on with the show

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welcome one and all to the latest episode of

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signals from mars i'm your host victor and joining

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me today are jeremy and ed how are you guys doing

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doing well thanks yeah really good doing good

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here too awesome so we are here to talk about

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uh music that was released in december 2025 yes

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i know it is the end of january 2025 but we want

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to make sure that we Got this month in there

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before we discussed our favorites of 2025. Joining

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us in the chat is Edgar Winterson. If there's

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anyone else checking us out, any familiars that

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we have, any patrons, please let us know. So,

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yeah, so December every year. there's always

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a condensed list of things that are released

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just because of the holidays. That said, Ed is

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the master of Metal Storm and other sites that

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have a much more diverse release schedule than

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stuff that I'm used to seeing. Metal Storm over

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the years has helped me with Picking out certain

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things, but then sometimes they have. It's just

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filtered in a weird way, so it's sometimes hard

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to digest for me, but I'll just piggyback off

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of you. But if there's anything that I'm missing

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out and anything that you think is worth our

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while to discuss, feel free to mention it along

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the way. And yeah. I unfortunately don't have

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a lot to share with you this month. Yeah. As

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you said, there's not a whole lot that gets released.

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Yeah. And live compilations and re -releases

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and stuff like that. There's two weeks directly

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that there's nothing that was released, which

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is the 19th and the 26th of December. You can

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tell from. The Metal Storm site that Buckethead

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released about another 100 EPs and singles. I

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mean, it's amazing. I swear, for several days,

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his releases were filling up the screen. Yeah,

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wow. I don't know what all he's up to, but he's

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a busy man. Always a busy man, yeah. All right,

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so let's start out with December 5th. I have

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two releases. I have Phantoms of the Future.

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and Gray Fox Conspiracy. And unfortunately, on

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Apple Music, I couldn't find Phantoms of the

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Future. I could only find Gray Fox Conspiracy,

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so I listened to that. Is there anything that

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I'm missing there, Ed? Is there anything else

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that you listened to for this first week in December?

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Yeah, there was one death slash thrash metal

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band. called Nahum, N -A -H -U -M. I think I'm

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pronouncing that right. Of course, Nahum was

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a minor prophet from the Hebrew Old Testament,

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so that might be where they got that name. I'm

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not sure. I don't know a lot about them. I know

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they're from Ostrava. Does that sound familiar?

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O -S -T -R -A -V -A? Okay, somewhere in Scandinavia.

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Somewhere in, yeah. But it's like, it's your

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basic death thrash metal album, you know, nothing

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spectacular, but I did end up listening to it

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and still am because the songs were really good.

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They seemed to, the songwriting is keeping things

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interesting throughout the record. They kind

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of, you know, pick up the energy in all the right

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spots to keep you in the song. But that's about

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all I have. If you're just looking for another

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death thrash metal record to add to your collection,

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you might want to check that one out. Yeah, and

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I actually forgot to mention that Scorpion's

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released Coming Home Live on December 5th as

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well. I thought it was the following week, but

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it was the 5th. Jeremy, for you, what did you

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listen to and what do you recommend here? Yeah.

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Well, Ostrava is actually in Czech Republic or

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Czechia. Yeah, I was trying to say that again.

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It's where? Czech Republic? Yeah. It's listed

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there, but I'm not too sure how to say it. My

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Kentucky tongue is feeling a bit insecure. So

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thanks for the help. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe

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Ostrava. Yeah, I don't know. Good band. I listened

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to the three albums that you kind of mentioned

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so far. I listened to all three. I listened to

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Forever Dark, Phantoms of the Future. This was

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kind of quite an interesting sort of goth album,

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goth rock, I'd say. It's a cult German band.

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I didn't really know much about them. Going in

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the 90s, apparently. I got married in the 90s.

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Our first daughter was born. So, you know, I

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wasn't so into metal in the early 90s. Maybe

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they were out then. They made a comeback. They

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disbanded for a while. It was just an interesting

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listen. I mean, let's face it, you know, there

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weren't many albums to listen to. So, you know,

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it was something to get my ears around. I did

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listen to The Preacher Man by Grey Fox Conspiracy

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as well, partly because they're from South Wales,

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which, as you know, is where Phil Campbell comes

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from as well. So, yeah, what was interesting

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is that there were five -piece traditional sort

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of heavy rock stuff, bit of southern rock influence

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in there. So it was kind of in my ballpark, as

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you might expect. It was easy listening without

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being particularly great. I reckon in another

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week, another month, I would probably have passed

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it by. So, you know, my only choice really for

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the month out of the three would be the Scorpions

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live album, just because, you know, it's Scorpions.

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We know their ages now. We know where they are

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in their career. It sounded fine. I think Klaus

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Mein does sound his age a little bit, you know,

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a little bit forced occasionally. He's not got

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that excitement in his intonation anymore. But

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hey, you know, they still play big city nights

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and still play rocking. rock you like a hurricane

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and all all those stuff that we like uh and it

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was a nice you know nice collection of songs

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on there um you know if you think about it klaus

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mine's going to be 78 this year And Rudolf Schenker,

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also 78 this year. So, you know, it's fantastic

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that they're still going. I still want to see

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them live because I think they're still a great

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live act, given their ages. So, yeah, if you've

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not got a live album by Scorpions, why not just

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go out and buy it? Because, you know, you're

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going to get a late career sort of concert, which

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sounds fine. Yeah, I listened to two of the three.

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I couldn't find the Phantoms of the Future. But

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I listened to the Scorpions album a few times

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this week. Music is great. And I think you're

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a perfect assessment with regards to the vocals.

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There are points in time where you're listening

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to that. And it doesn't seem like they've overdubbed

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much because there could have been like big,

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huge choruses and stuff like that. And the only

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song that really has. Like the gang vocals is

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big city nights outside of that. It's big city

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nights or blackout. I forget. It's one of the

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two. It's all the way at the end. And I thought,

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wow, you know, they really could have touched

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this up if they wanted to, because Klaus's voice,

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as you've said, sounds like he's a 78 year old

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man singing some of this stuff. Some of this

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stuff he's, he's like mumbling as well. There's

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there things where in the past they would have

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cleaned it up and, and whatnot. To me, that's

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kind of cool because, as you're saying, they're

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not lying to anybody. And at the same time, you

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know, do we want something that sounds exactly

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like Worldwide Live, where it sounds like it

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was recorded in the 80s, where they've played

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with his vocals and brought it up a few octaves?

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and stuff like that. So, um, I enjoy what they've

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done. I don't know that I'll listen to that album

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a whole heck of a lot. Um, and it made me think

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also cause Scorpions. Yeah. So they had Tokyo

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tapes worldwide live. Then they had, um, an album

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in the nineties, which depending on when you

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got it, you either got a hidden bonus track or

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not with them doing. And I remember there was

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a big to do with Eddie trunk because people were

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buying it and it wasn't on there. And people

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were like, no, we want this song on there. You

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know, where is it? And he would play. He's like,

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no, it's on every, every release. And I bought

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it and I didn't have it either. So I, I forget

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what it was called. It was. still stinging live

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or something like that. Uh, I've, I, I don't

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remember. Um, and I've actually done exactly

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what I didn't want to do and open up all my browser

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tabs. Okay. Uh, anyway, uh, yeah, for me, it,

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it's going to be, um, it's going to be scorpions

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as well. I mean, I thought the gray five, Fox

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conspiracy was, but it was, I don't know, not

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something that I would readily listen to. Um,

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you know, as, as you like to say, uh, Jeremy,

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it was kind of like, uh, a pub band. Hmm. But

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by the way, I'd just like to mention, as we mentioned

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in Scorpions, you know, Francis Buchholz died

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today. Yes. You know, we should, we should, Yeah,

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we should honor him. Obviously, he was in the

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band for quite a while and out of the band with

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Michael Schenker for a bit as well. It's a shame

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we've lost another one. Yeah, they didn't end

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on great terms. There was a lot of nastiness

00:17:32.849 --> 00:17:36.210
back and forth between them when he left the

00:17:36.210 --> 00:17:46.220
band. And, you know, whatever. Whatever happened,

00:17:46.559 --> 00:17:48.319
I mean, it's something that we're never going

00:17:48.319 --> 00:17:51.599
to really find out, you know, as usual. There's

00:17:51.599 --> 00:17:59.519
multiple sides to a story. So anyway, Ed, what

00:17:59.519 --> 00:18:09.460
did you say your album was? Nahum. And the name

00:18:09.460 --> 00:18:11.299
of the album, I don't even think I told you.

00:18:11.480 --> 00:18:17.109
It's called Old World Dead. It looks like they

00:18:17.109 --> 00:18:21.269
go back to about 2012 as far as major releases,

00:18:21.369 --> 00:18:24.710
but this is my first time hearing them. And,

00:18:24.849 --> 00:18:27.750
yeah, they put out a solid record. You know,

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I don't think bands really care when you jump

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on the train so long as you do. That's right.

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And it's another reason why we're doing this

00:18:38.430 --> 00:18:42.950
in January as opposed to doing it, you know.

00:18:44.750 --> 00:18:48.849
Instead of not doing it. How about that? So,

00:18:48.910 --> 00:18:52.950
I mean, and with interviews and different things

00:18:52.950 --> 00:18:55.730
that I do, I, at least my way of approaching

00:18:55.730 --> 00:18:58.769
things is that the albums are still out there,

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you know, so you can always check them out at

00:19:01.109 --> 00:19:03.470
any point in time that you want to. If you're

00:19:03.470 --> 00:19:07.789
listening to this episode in mid March, you know,

00:19:07.789 --> 00:19:10.069
it's still going to be, they're still going to

00:19:10.069 --> 00:19:14.859
be cool albums to check out. Yeah. And it'll

00:19:14.859 --> 00:19:17.039
be fresh for you if it's the first time you're

00:19:17.039 --> 00:19:19.339
hearing. Absolutely. You know, the music. Yeah.

00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:24.640
So. So. All right. So December 12th, we had releases

00:19:24.640 --> 00:19:30.220
from Lord of the Lost, Opus Noir, Volume 2. Volume

00:19:30.220 --> 00:19:33.839
3 is coming out in March, if I'm not mistaken.

00:19:35.480 --> 00:19:39.339
Volumes released. Mirror Touch, Glasgow Kiss

00:19:39.339 --> 00:19:42.240
released Down in Flames. They're live albums

00:19:42.240 --> 00:19:49.000
from Jimmy Jameson, 1998 live hits. And Graham

00:19:49.000 --> 00:19:53.680
Bonnet Band released live in Hollywood, again

00:19:53.680 --> 00:19:57.940
live. Or Lost in Hollywood, again live. And then

00:19:57.940 --> 00:19:59.839
there are reissues from Bring Me the Horizon,

00:20:00.180 --> 00:20:06.880
Pink Floyd, Static X, and Clutch. Ed, anything

00:20:06.880 --> 00:20:11.279
that we missed out here that you consider a worthy

00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:18.680
listen? No, this was an empty week for me. There's

00:20:18.680 --> 00:20:21.559
one thing that came out on the 17th, so I'll

00:20:21.559 --> 00:20:23.440
just save that for the next week that we talk

00:20:23.440 --> 00:20:27.660
about. Okay. But, yeah, nothing that week for

00:20:27.660 --> 00:20:33.339
me that I liked. Jeremy? Yeah, I did listen to

00:20:33.339 --> 00:20:37.210
the Graham Bonnet Band live album. Actually,

00:20:38.490 --> 00:20:40.509
I actually thought it was pretty good. I've seen

00:20:40.509 --> 00:20:43.049
Graham Bonnet live where his vocals were pretty

00:20:43.049 --> 00:20:45.210
terrible, to be honest. I've seen him twice live

00:20:45.210 --> 00:20:47.049
where his vocals were terrible. But I thought

00:20:47.049 --> 00:20:49.230
it sounded good on this album. Now, obviously,

00:20:49.369 --> 00:20:51.670
we don't know how much he's engineered for it,

00:20:51.690 --> 00:20:55.410
you know, to put it on disc. It sounded as if

00:20:55.410 --> 00:20:58.730
he was probably singing along to his own backing

00:20:58.730 --> 00:21:01.029
track because you kind of heard it on one or

00:21:01.029 --> 00:21:04.269
two songs. You could hear his voice and then

00:21:04.269 --> 00:21:07.589
him kind of singing over the top. that's fine.

00:21:07.609 --> 00:21:09.470
You know, if he needs to do it, he's a certain

00:21:09.470 --> 00:21:12.130
age, like they all are. I mean, he's 78 already,

00:21:12.210 --> 00:21:15.130
actually. So, you know, he's pushing on a bit.

00:21:16.309 --> 00:21:18.009
The other thing about Graham Bonnet, of course,

00:21:18.009 --> 00:21:19.849
is that he doesn't, he always said in the past

00:21:19.849 --> 00:21:21.970
he didn't like heavy rock much and he always

00:21:21.970 --> 00:21:23.730
liked, you know, rock and roll and all the sort

00:21:23.730 --> 00:21:26.029
of early stuff that he used to do. So the fact

00:21:26.029 --> 00:21:29.410
that he's still doing it is a bonus. And, you

00:21:29.410 --> 00:21:30.869
know, there's some good songs on this album.

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You remember a lot of the Alcatraz stuff that

00:21:34.170 --> 00:21:36.990
he used to do and, you know, the Schenker stuff.

00:21:38.089 --> 00:21:40.349
And, you know, there's some good tracks. And

00:21:40.349 --> 00:21:42.690
it's kind of like one of those albums that you'd

00:21:42.690 --> 00:21:45.390
play in the car on a long journey and just sing

00:21:45.390 --> 00:21:48.309
along to and kind of enjoy. So, yeah, I quite

00:21:48.309 --> 00:21:51.549
enjoyed it. But my album of the week is definitely

00:21:51.549 --> 00:21:54.490
going to Down in Flames by, as you would say,

00:21:54.609 --> 00:21:57.890
Victor Glasgow Kiss. which is actually Glasgow

00:21:57.890 --> 00:22:01.410
Kiss. I was going to say it's Glasgow. That's

00:22:01.410 --> 00:22:04.829
the one. That's the one. You know I always rib

00:22:04.829 --> 00:22:07.630
you on your pronunciations of the British stuff.

00:22:08.869 --> 00:22:12.930
Your female friends who band from Norway. they

00:22:12.930 --> 00:22:15.150
describe themselves as old metal i don't know

00:22:15.150 --> 00:22:17.990
i'm not entirely certain what old metal is really

00:22:17.990 --> 00:22:20.549
but uh to me it was just sort of eight songs

00:22:20.549 --> 00:22:23.569
uh that had sort of two defining features for

00:22:23.569 --> 00:22:26.589
me one was the lead singer uh charlotte marlon

00:22:26.589 --> 00:22:30.009
midton um I thought she was really good for this

00:22:30.009 --> 00:22:32.589
kind of music and reminded me a lot of Sanhedrin,

00:22:32.690 --> 00:22:34.170
which, you know, as a band, I've mentioned a

00:22:34.170 --> 00:22:37.509
few times in the past, that sort of type of music.

00:22:38.130 --> 00:22:40.869
The second defining feature for me had a very,

00:22:40.910 --> 00:22:42.990
very good underlying groove to it. You know,

00:22:43.009 --> 00:22:46.690
the riffs had a real groove. And so, you know,

00:22:46.690 --> 00:22:48.970
there's a lot of classic rock metal riffs thrown

00:22:48.970 --> 00:22:52.049
into the mix there. I thought it was very tight.

00:22:52.150 --> 00:22:55.829
It had a lot of energy. And, you know, I thought

00:22:55.829 --> 00:22:57.720
the songs... were pretty good. You know, I wanted

00:22:57.720 --> 00:22:59.900
to go back and listen to them again. So, um,

00:23:00.019 --> 00:23:03.140
there's a lot of, a little bit edgy as well at

00:23:03.140 --> 00:23:05.079
times. So yeah, really enjoyed it. I thought

00:23:05.079 --> 00:23:07.720
it was a good album. Probably we'll give it another,

00:23:07.759 --> 00:23:12.279
another go at some point. Okay. Uh, I listened

00:23:12.279 --> 00:23:17.359
to the, um, volumes mirror touch, uh, definitely

00:23:17.359 --> 00:23:22.099
a very modern sounding album. Uh, your mix of

00:23:22.099 --> 00:23:27.500
gent prog metal. with some a little bit more

00:23:27.500 --> 00:23:30.819
commercial type stuff that uh a lot of these

00:23:30.819 --> 00:23:34.880
bands are dipping their toes into um so that

00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:38.619
and i listened to the lord of the lost opus new

00:23:38.619 --> 00:23:43.480
year um volume two that's going to be my album

00:23:43.480 --> 00:23:46.559
of the week and i mean if you've come to love

00:23:46.559 --> 00:23:50.039
lord of the lost it's lord of the lost i mean

00:23:50.039 --> 00:23:54.329
there's really It's them experimenting a little,

00:23:54.410 --> 00:23:57.150
but it's still within their realm. I mean, you

00:23:57.150 --> 00:24:01.069
can definitely, you know, anything with Chris

00:24:01.069 --> 00:24:03.589
Harms' vocals on it is going to sound like Lord

00:24:03.589 --> 00:24:06.490
of the Lost. Even his solo album that he released,

00:24:06.609 --> 00:24:11.049
which was more of like 80s synth wave stuff,

00:24:11.150 --> 00:24:13.890
still sounded like Lord of the Lost because he's

00:24:13.890 --> 00:24:22.910
got a very specific voice. Ed, you mentioned

00:24:22.910 --> 00:24:25.450
something that had come out on the 17th that

00:24:25.450 --> 00:24:28.690
you wanted to discuss. What is that? Yeah, this

00:24:28.690 --> 00:24:32.670
is another death thrash metal. It's a three -piece

00:24:32.670 --> 00:24:36.049
band. They've apparently been around for a while,

00:24:36.109 --> 00:24:40.710
formed in 2000, but they're from Japan. So it's

00:24:40.710 --> 00:24:43.829
a little something different. I got to impress

00:24:43.829 --> 00:24:47.150
my half -Japanese wife with some Japanese death

00:24:47.150 --> 00:24:53.759
metal this month. they have assumed the name

00:24:53.759 --> 00:24:57.119
of an ancient samurai warrior, so their name

00:24:57.119 --> 00:25:02.079
is Gatsu Tatsu Katsu. I don't know what that

00:25:02.079 --> 00:25:04.480
sounds like coming from a Kentucky boy, but it's

00:25:04.480 --> 00:25:11.240
something like that. And if you like sepultura

00:25:11.240 --> 00:25:14.740
a lot and you like death metal, you would like

00:25:14.740 --> 00:25:18.099
this because, as I said, it's death. It's more

00:25:18.099 --> 00:25:21.759
on the death metal side with, you know, lots

00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:25.920
of thrash metal inspired riffs. But the vocals

00:25:25.920 --> 00:25:30.079
kind of remind me a bit of Sepultura. There's

00:25:30.079 --> 00:25:33.900
a lot of death metal bands that when I hear them,

00:25:34.019 --> 00:25:36.099
a lot of them will remind me of that kind of

00:25:36.099 --> 00:25:40.039
Sepultura vocal, you know, with the death metal

00:25:40.039 --> 00:25:42.900
growl on top of it. And they're one of them.

00:25:44.059 --> 00:25:45.920
I've enjoyed this album. I don't know anything

00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:47.579
they're saying because it's all in Japanese.

00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:51.220
You'd have to get on the internet to interpret.

00:25:51.400 --> 00:25:54.759
Now, the name of the record, though, by using

00:25:54.759 --> 00:25:59.640
Metal Encyclopedia, they translate it as being

00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:03.640
immortality. So you can write that in your notes.

00:26:05.319 --> 00:26:11.000
It came out December 17th. The songs have quite

00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:12.880
a bit of groove, which, you know, is always something

00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:16.319
that catches my attention. So that's another,

00:26:16.440 --> 00:26:21.019
you know, death metal album, that little something

00:26:21.019 --> 00:26:25.019
different for you. So it was Gatsu, Katsu, Datsu?

00:26:26.500 --> 00:26:31.859
No, that's with a T, Tatsu. Tatsu, okay. But

00:26:31.859 --> 00:26:36.220
the rest I got right. Let me look it up again.

00:26:36.619 --> 00:26:41.279
I lost my spot. Yeah, gatsu, tatsu, katsu. So

00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:45.160
it's a G, and then T is in tango. The last one's

00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:51.380
K is in kilo. Gotcha. All right. Who says we

00:26:51.380 --> 00:26:56.740
don't branch out with things? Yeah, a little

00:26:56.740 --> 00:26:59.279
Asian flair for everyone. Yeah, there you go.

00:27:03.180 --> 00:27:07.519
So cool. So just recapping here, and we're doing

00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:11.700
this because next week we are doing our favorites

00:27:11.700 --> 00:27:15.640
of 2025. So if you're watching this live or listening

00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:18.539
to the replay, if you're listening to the audio

00:27:18.539 --> 00:27:21.339
version, this is being released on the day that

00:27:21.339 --> 00:27:27.440
we are recording the 2025 albums countdown. And

00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:34.319
the picks that we had here. December 5th, Ed

00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:38.500
picked Mayhem and Old World Dead. Jeremy and

00:27:38.500 --> 00:27:42.819
I picked Scorpions Coming Home Live. For the

00:27:42.819 --> 00:27:49.339
12th, Jeremy picked Glasgow Kiss with Down in

00:27:49.339 --> 00:27:55.880
Flames. I picked Lord of Lost Opus Noir Volume

00:27:55.880 --> 00:28:02.069
2. And then coming along on the 17th was Gatsu,

00:28:02.150 --> 00:28:06.930
Tatsu, Katsu with immortality, which is what

00:28:06.930 --> 00:28:10.109
Ed had picked. So again, December is a short

00:28:10.109 --> 00:28:14.990
month and you guys definitely have your work

00:28:14.990 --> 00:28:19.789
cut out for you to send us in your 10 favorite

00:28:19.789 --> 00:28:24.569
albums of the year. You can email those to signals

00:28:24.569 --> 00:28:27.950
from Mars at signals from mars .com. Or if you've

00:28:28.410 --> 00:28:30.930
reached out to me on social media, feel free

00:28:30.930 --> 00:28:36.869
to do that there as well. Been getting a lot

00:28:36.869 --> 00:28:40.289
of different comments on YouTube for the shorts

00:28:40.289 --> 00:28:44.269
that I've been doing. And Ed, you helped me out

00:28:44.269 --> 00:28:47.450
yesterday and been getting... Stirring up trouble

00:28:47.450 --> 00:28:53.069
again. Yeah, it's interesting because people

00:28:53.069 --> 00:28:57.660
were saying, oh, why don't you give more information?

00:28:57.740 --> 00:29:00.700
I'm like, well, this is kind of to, you know,

00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:04.819
the incentive for you to check out the long form

00:29:04.819 --> 00:29:07.980
video and subscribe to the channel and all that.

00:29:08.019 --> 00:29:10.119
It's like what we're talking about in the short,

00:29:10.180 --> 00:29:13.180
the short's great. And obviously it's giving

00:29:13.180 --> 00:29:15.920
signals from Mars, a ton of platform, you know,

00:29:15.940 --> 00:29:20.339
a ton of traffic to the platform, but you've

00:29:20.339 --> 00:29:23.079
got that whole long form video that the three

00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:27.529
of us have, you know, sat around listening to

00:29:27.529 --> 00:29:32.769
music in our car, at home, in our headphones,

00:29:32.910 --> 00:29:35.329
through our speakers, and we're doing these episodes

00:29:35.329 --> 00:29:39.470
for you guys. And hopefully, again, there are

00:29:39.470 --> 00:29:42.289
little glimpses and pieces of things that stand

00:29:42.289 --> 00:29:46.509
out to you, and hopefully it gets you to not

00:29:46.509 --> 00:29:49.869
only check out the long -form video, but also

00:29:49.869 --> 00:29:53.390
check out the bands in question. So that's ultimately

00:29:53.390 --> 00:29:56.329
the goal. I've said it a bunch of times where

00:29:56.329 --> 00:30:02.450
when people say to me, oh, my wife's going to

00:30:02.450 --> 00:30:04.309
kill me because I spent I don't know how much

00:30:04.309 --> 00:30:07.730
this weekend at the store picking up records

00:30:07.730 --> 00:30:10.650
that you guys were talking about. That to me

00:30:10.650 --> 00:30:13.049
is a thrill. That means that I'm doing my job.

00:30:17.690 --> 00:30:19.829
How's your wife doing, Jeremy? You've been sharing

00:30:19.829 --> 00:30:23.289
lots of new vinyl on Facebook and such. She's

00:30:23.289 --> 00:30:27.750
next door. I could bring her in. Has she put

00:30:27.750 --> 00:30:31.109
any limitations on you yet? Not yet, no. I do

00:30:31.109 --> 00:30:33.710
hide the odd one that comes through in the box,

00:30:33.869 --> 00:30:36.369
of course. You've been showing some nice stuff.

00:30:37.369 --> 00:30:41.390
Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, it's all collected over

00:30:41.390 --> 00:30:45.640
a period of time, obviously. This week, but yeah.

00:30:45.819 --> 00:30:47.859
So it's not all brand new stuff you just bought?

00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:50.220
It's not all brand new, no. It's all over the

00:30:50.220 --> 00:30:52.000
past few years or whatever. I thought you'd been

00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:54.900
shopping after Christmas or something. No, no,

00:30:55.259 --> 00:30:57.859
no. It's just a lot of it's in the collection.

00:30:58.079 --> 00:31:00.259
But yeah, there's probably one more that I need

00:31:00.259 --> 00:31:03.740
to get this week. And as Victor was saying recently,

00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:06.859
the prices of vinyl is going up and up, which

00:31:06.859 --> 00:31:08.940
is not a good thing, really. So you've got to

00:31:08.940 --> 00:31:13.650
be careful what you select. I don't know if the

00:31:13.650 --> 00:31:18.529
excuse was for a long time the bottleneck in

00:31:18.529 --> 00:31:23.349
the supply chain, but that's how many years ago

00:31:23.349 --> 00:31:28.589
at this point. I get that there are less big

00:31:28.589 --> 00:31:32.789
factories that are making vinyl, but, for example,

00:31:32.950 --> 00:31:36.869
I have the Wolf Tooth album here. That was printed

00:31:36.869 --> 00:31:41.579
in Lithuania. And it was sent to me from there.

00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:44.920
So there's a lot of small like record plants

00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:48.180
around the world that are servicing, you know,

00:31:48.180 --> 00:31:51.500
local acts and smaller acts and stuff like that.

00:31:51.859 --> 00:31:57.099
So, I mean, there are other ways of being able

00:31:57.099 --> 00:32:00.700
to print your albums up. I mean, like everything

00:32:00.700 --> 00:32:07.140
we are. We were at the mercy of these big corporations

00:32:07.140 --> 00:32:11.500
that are, you know, the ones behind most of those

00:32:11.500 --> 00:32:16.279
factories and most of these labels. But, you

00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:18.960
know, it's a shame because it just seems like

00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:23.039
it's skyrocketing. The prices are skyrocketing.

00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:25.220
And I don't get it. You know, I looked up on

00:32:25.220 --> 00:32:32.630
a newsletter today where I received. uh the uh

00:32:32.630 --> 00:32:38.630
pre -release for two old um albums from uh from

00:32:38.630 --> 00:32:41.009
a spanish band that i'd seen live back in the

00:32:41.009 --> 00:32:44.710
day and i have the albums on cd actually i thought

00:32:44.710 --> 00:32:46.410
it was kind of neat wow you know i could get

00:32:46.410 --> 00:32:49.990
these on vinyl all these years later and and

00:32:49.990 --> 00:32:53.730
so on and they're one's a double album and it

00:32:53.980 --> 00:32:58.079
cost 26 euros. The other one is a single album

00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:02.359
and it's 22. So you're looking at like a little

00:33:02.359 --> 00:33:06.640
bit more than $25 and close to 30 for a double

00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:11.180
album. I think that's reasonably priced. That

00:33:11.180 --> 00:33:13.740
is, you know, but some of these other, if it's

00:33:13.740 --> 00:33:15.700
something you like, yeah. Some of these other

00:33:15.700 --> 00:33:18.279
albums that are coming out where it's in the

00:33:18.279 --> 00:33:22.799
forties and fifties. And way out there. The one

00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:27.920
that really caught my attention was the New Depeche

00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:31.019
Mode live album. It's 100 euros for the vinyl.

00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:36.099
Wow. Regardless. So how much is that in dollars?

00:33:36.099 --> 00:33:41.359
That's like $120. Wow. Yeah, that's mad. That's

00:33:41.359 --> 00:33:51.640
a lot. I've paid $100. Twice. I've paid $100

00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:56.059
and over. One was years ago on Kickstarter, and

00:33:56.059 --> 00:33:59.299
I've never opened it. It's a Frankie Goes to

00:33:59.299 --> 00:34:01.880
Hollywood box set for their first album, Welcome

00:34:01.880 --> 00:34:04.279
to the Polterdome, which I absolutely love that

00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:07.740
album. And then there's the Creatures of the

00:34:07.740 --> 00:34:12.019
Night box set that's right over here. Yeah, but

00:34:12.019 --> 00:34:16.760
those are box sets. Yeah, they're box sets. Iron

00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:19.579
Maiden released, I forget if it was Book of Souls

00:34:19.579 --> 00:34:22.280
or Shinjitsu, and it was about 100 because it

00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:27.840
was four vinyls. It's just, it's too much. Yeah,

00:34:28.019 --> 00:34:32.000
especially if you don't spend it a lot, unless

00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:34.619
you're just doing it for collecting purposes.

00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:39.219
I told you all about that Hope Deferred record,

00:34:39.500 --> 00:34:43.039
and this is the most I've ever spent on a single

00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:45.659
record. It's like you said, they're a small,

00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:49.840
getting started band so they're using uh probably

00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:52.420
an independent company and they did do a pretty

00:34:52.420 --> 00:34:55.059
cool i usually just like you know black vine

00:34:55.059 --> 00:34:58.079
right but this one is kind of like a it's like

00:34:58.079 --> 00:35:02.320
a gravestone kind of a slate gray color and it's

00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:06.719
actually looks really cool um but yeah i think

00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:11.760
i spent after shipping 45 to 50 dollars on this

00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:17.000
uh but i did it because of who it is you know

00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:20.360
i told you about that band embodiment right and

00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:28.599
this is the guy from embodiment and the uh i

00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:31.159
told you how embodiment started off as a death

00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:34.880
metal band and then they released an album on

00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:37.760
solid state records which uh where they changed

00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:41.340
the vocals that kind of kind of black metal sounding

00:35:41.340 --> 00:35:45.110
vocals and The music was a little more deathcore

00:35:45.110 --> 00:35:48.090
-like. And they're kind of credited with influencing

00:35:48.090 --> 00:35:50.969
deathcore bands, even though they're kind of

00:35:50.969 --> 00:35:55.750
an unknown band. And then Solid State put out

00:35:55.750 --> 00:35:59.769
a compilation where Embodiment had put out a

00:35:59.769 --> 00:36:03.909
new song. And the album that they had put out

00:36:03.909 --> 00:36:09.329
is a classic. Ten songs. It's great stuff all

00:36:09.329 --> 00:36:12.659
the way through. They put out a... new single

00:36:12.659 --> 00:36:14.699
on this compilation, and it was even better.

00:36:14.820 --> 00:36:17.179
And it got all the embodiment fans just really

00:36:17.179 --> 00:36:19.980
excited for what was about to come. It was just

00:36:19.980 --> 00:36:22.659
perfectly produced. It was probably the best

00:36:22.659 --> 00:36:25.300
song we'd ever heard. And then they pulled a

00:36:25.300 --> 00:36:29.539
total Metallica on everybody and completely switched

00:36:29.539 --> 00:36:35.800
their genre. It was crazy. The singer left, and

00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:39.690
we heard about that in the news. And people started

00:36:39.690 --> 00:36:42.230
saying that the new music was sounding more like

00:36:42.230 --> 00:36:46.030
the Deftones and things like that. And sure enough,

00:36:46.130 --> 00:36:49.730
when they released an album in 2000, it was completely

00:36:49.730 --> 00:36:53.489
different. It was just alternative metal and

00:36:53.489 --> 00:36:57.730
just one of the biggest bummers for us lovers

00:36:57.730 --> 00:37:02.250
of embodiment that we'd ever experienced. And

00:37:02.250 --> 00:37:06.269
they did that to try to have a career, I think.

00:37:06.750 --> 00:37:08.789
Because it was kind of hard making music in the

00:37:08.789 --> 00:37:13.630
Christian death, you know, metal chorusing back

00:37:13.630 --> 00:37:16.510
then. And they spent several years, probably

00:37:16.510 --> 00:37:19.789
until 2008 or so, just as this kind of alternative

00:37:19.789 --> 00:37:22.730
metal band. Now, that first album they put out,

00:37:22.769 --> 00:37:24.190
and Victor, I'm going to have to remember to

00:37:24.190 --> 00:37:26.170
send it to you because it's an album that I think

00:37:26.170 --> 00:37:31.010
you will really love. Luckily, the songwriting

00:37:31.010 --> 00:37:33.530
on that first album was so good that once I got

00:37:33.530 --> 00:37:37.480
over my bitter feelings. of the changes, I ended

00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:40.239
up liking the album and I still have it and enjoy

00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:43.079
it, but I'm not really liked anything else they

00:37:43.079 --> 00:37:48.079
put out. So anyway, after they broke up, I told

00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:51.940
you the guitarist, he had started a new band

00:37:51.940 --> 00:37:54.260
called the famine. He did that for a couple of

00:37:54.260 --> 00:37:56.480
years, spit out a couple of records, and now

00:37:56.480 --> 00:37:59.480
he's got this band hope deferred. And for me,

00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:03.000
this is the closest thing I'll ever have to embodiment

00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:06.099
on vinyl. Because back then they weren't printing

00:38:06.099 --> 00:38:09.639
vinyl. I think there may, you know, if I do a

00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:11.739
Google search, there may have been a time where

00:38:11.739 --> 00:38:15.239
they released it and I missed it. So unless they

00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:18.340
repress that again someday, I'm never going to

00:38:18.340 --> 00:38:22.360
get that. But the guitarist from embodiment,

00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:26.880
he crafted a guitar tone that is completely his.

00:38:27.139 --> 00:38:29.199
And when you hear it, it's different than all

00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:32.019
the other bands. It kind of reminds me of Wolf

00:38:32.019 --> 00:38:34.820
from Accept. how, you know, he's playing Marshall

00:38:34.820 --> 00:38:37.420
and Gibson guitars, but he's somehow crafted,

00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:40.400
especially on Balls to the Wall, a distortion

00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:43.219
that's just all Wolf Hoffman, and you know it's

00:38:43.219 --> 00:38:46.619
him when you hear it. And this Hope Deferred

00:38:46.619 --> 00:38:49.619
record, none of you guys would like it. It's

00:38:49.619 --> 00:38:51.320
only people that like, you know, death metal

00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:54.219
and technical. It's very technical, lots of riffs,

00:38:54.300 --> 00:38:58.389
you know, lots of drumming going on. There's

00:38:58.389 --> 00:39:01.710
not a lot of breakdowns. There's hardly no melody.

00:39:01.849 --> 00:39:04.170
So it's not something that a lot of you guys

00:39:04.170 --> 00:39:06.909
would like. But for all you guys that do like

00:39:06.909 --> 00:39:10.170
that kind of music, if you want to hear something

00:39:10.170 --> 00:39:12.829
that just it's going to sound different, you're

00:39:12.829 --> 00:39:14.670
tired of everything else and you want something

00:39:14.670 --> 00:39:16.550
that sounds a little bit different, even though

00:39:16.550 --> 00:39:19.510
it's the same kind of music. Check out this Hope

00:39:19.510 --> 00:39:23.010
Deferred album because he's still, you know,

00:39:23.010 --> 00:39:25.670
rocking with that same tone that he's always

00:39:25.670 --> 00:39:29.360
had. It's nice to be able to put a vinyl on my

00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:33.179
stereo here in my office and jam it that way.

00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:36.000
That's probably a longer story than you all wanted

00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:38.980
to hear. No, that's fine. I'm not going to give

00:39:38.980 --> 00:39:40.940
you a technical review of the music because that

00:39:40.940 --> 00:39:44.539
would bore you. But anyway, that's the most I've

00:39:44.539 --> 00:39:47.199
spent, and that was my reason why. There's a

00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:51.199
reason why I spent that much. But Best Buy, man,

00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:56.599
they hurt me. I had some reward points to use.

00:39:57.059 --> 00:39:59.920
And so I got on the website, and I see that all

00:39:59.920 --> 00:40:03.500
the prices were up. I told you how all the records

00:40:03.500 --> 00:40:07.900
were now minimum $28, $29. I also noticed that

00:40:07.900 --> 00:40:11.460
all the CD prices had gone up. Yeah. So I ended

00:40:11.460 --> 00:40:16.340
up settling on buying that indie pop band, Wet

00:40:16.340 --> 00:40:19.760
Leg. Oh, right. And I bought their first album.

00:40:19.900 --> 00:40:25.130
I love that record. And I spent $28 .99 on it.

00:40:26.429 --> 00:40:30.130
Well, they shipped it to me with the $22 .99

00:40:30.130 --> 00:40:33.369
sticker still on the front, just to make it hurt

00:40:33.369 --> 00:40:35.610
a little bit more when I opened the box that

00:40:35.610 --> 00:40:40.230
I spent the extra five bucks. So, yeah, I mean,

00:40:40.250 --> 00:40:42.869
the price is just getting to be – the only reason

00:40:42.869 --> 00:40:44.730
I bought that, though, is because I had rewards

00:40:44.730 --> 00:40:48.639
to spend on it. So with them raising these prices,

00:40:48.780 --> 00:40:51.480
I'm definitely buying less stuff, going to be

00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:54.599
more selective. Yeah. And so they'll be getting

00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:58.239
probably less of my dollars that way. Yeah. And

00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:02.420
like I said, even the CD prices, CDs that I used

00:41:02.420 --> 00:41:05.739
to buy for $12 are now back up to $18. Yeah.

00:41:06.590 --> 00:41:09.489
Yeah, same here. Some CDs here are like sort

00:41:09.489 --> 00:41:12.710
of £20 for a CD, which is what the vinyl price

00:41:12.710 --> 00:41:15.670
was a few years back. I think also if you wait

00:41:15.670 --> 00:41:19.090
a little with some albums, there's quite a lot

00:41:19.090 --> 00:41:21.949
of supply, so you can get them cheaper. And a

00:41:21.949 --> 00:41:25.429
few of the eBay sellers will sort of accept offers

00:41:25.429 --> 00:41:29.150
on new stuff. It's a question of how quickly

00:41:29.150 --> 00:41:31.550
you want it as well. I've done that with Megadeth

00:41:31.550 --> 00:41:36.230
on the previous album. the death the dying and

00:41:36.230 --> 00:41:41.809
the and the whatever yeah that's the one yeah

00:41:41.809 --> 00:41:45.130
um so yeah i got that one uh reasonably cheap

00:41:45.130 --> 00:41:47.610
because there was a lot of supply of it and obviously

00:41:47.610 --> 00:41:50.429
you know a lot left over so i'm thinking whether

00:41:50.429 --> 00:41:53.449
i might do the same with the new one um you know

00:41:53.449 --> 00:41:55.530
i do want to get hold of it i want a copy of

00:41:55.530 --> 00:41:59.090
it and i will play it but so yeah you just you're

00:41:59.090 --> 00:42:01.309
balancing you're balancing all these issues aren't

00:42:01.309 --> 00:42:02.989
you where you know how much you want the album

00:42:03.900 --> 00:42:06.860
Is it a must buy? There are some out there that

00:42:06.860 --> 00:42:08.820
are still must buys because, you know, you really

00:42:08.820 --> 00:42:11.460
love every song on the album. There's some of

00:42:11.460 --> 00:42:14.860
those still out there, aren't there? And also

00:42:14.860 --> 00:42:16.980
you probably have to say to yourself, you know,

00:42:17.019 --> 00:42:20.639
you might go out for a meal and you've had that

00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:23.880
meal and you won't see that meal again. But with

00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:26.500
an album, hey, you're going to see it again and

00:42:26.500 --> 00:42:31.400
again and again. Yes. Yeah, absolutely. Exactly.

00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:33.699
I'm wondering, now that you mention that, Jeremy,

00:42:33.920 --> 00:42:45.320
is Megadeth on Bandcamp? Yeah. They are, but

00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:49.360
the only thing on here is the live in Buenos

00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:56.219
Aires and unplugged in Boston. So that seems

00:42:56.219 --> 00:43:05.309
to me that it's more of... By the way, while

00:43:05.309 --> 00:43:06.949
you're looking at that, there's another issue

00:43:06.949 --> 00:43:10.530
as well, which isn't just the price. And this

00:43:10.530 --> 00:43:13.070
applies to the new Megadeth album. There's so

00:43:13.070 --> 00:43:15.210
many different versions. Which one do you choose?

00:43:15.929 --> 00:43:19.489
You know, I've seen a splatter version that looks

00:43:19.489 --> 00:43:22.050
great. I've seen the picture disc. There's three

00:43:22.050 --> 00:43:26.329
or four color versions. And then there's an HMV

00:43:26.329 --> 00:43:30.389
exclusive version. Et cetera, et cetera. It goes

00:43:30.389 --> 00:43:32.250
on and on until there's about seven or eight

00:43:32.250 --> 00:43:34.909
versions of the same album. And it's very tricky

00:43:34.909 --> 00:43:37.670
sometimes to say which one do you fancy out of

00:43:37.670 --> 00:43:41.289
the lot. But, hey, I guess it's the same as when

00:43:41.289 --> 00:43:45.769
you go and buy shampoo in the supermarket. There's

00:43:45.769 --> 00:43:48.510
about 30 versions out there. What do you think?

00:43:48.690 --> 00:43:52.130
It's a lot cheaper, though. That's true. That's

00:43:52.130 --> 00:43:57.210
true. So you just mentioned the wet leg. How

00:43:57.210 --> 00:44:00.460
many albums did they have out? well they got

00:44:00.460 --> 00:44:02.400
a second one now that they released last year

00:44:02.400 --> 00:44:06.400
yeah which which which uh you know and and that's

00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:09.360
that's a group man they that first album they

00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:13.559
put out is like elite level stuff i mean it's

00:44:13.559 --> 00:44:17.360
set the songwriting is so good yeah um it's you

00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:20.639
know it's obviously uh it's like a two girl band

00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:23.059
mainly i mean they've got some other people not

00:44:23.059 --> 00:44:28.050
anymore actually now they're they're um They're

00:44:28.050 --> 00:44:32.030
a four -piece now. Yeah, well, that's what I

00:44:32.030 --> 00:44:34.309
mean. But I think the main songwriters are probably

00:44:34.309 --> 00:44:41.449
those two singers, right? And, man, the music

00:44:41.449 --> 00:44:44.269
that they wrote on that first album, it sounds

00:44:44.269 --> 00:44:47.150
like they were born with it. It's just like songs

00:44:47.150 --> 00:44:50.530
they've had their whole life and just crafted

00:44:50.530 --> 00:44:54.530
perfectly by the time they recorded them. It's

00:44:54.530 --> 00:44:59.949
like a five -star record. So anticipating their

00:44:59.949 --> 00:45:02.010
second one, you know, it was like, how are they

00:45:02.010 --> 00:45:06.070
going to live up to the first one? And so as

00:45:06.070 --> 00:45:08.369
usual, listening to the second one, it was hard

00:45:08.369 --> 00:45:10.849
for me, you know, not to compare it to that one.

00:45:11.349 --> 00:45:18.110
And it was hard to enjoy as much as I probably

00:45:18.110 --> 00:45:20.909
could because of how good that first record was.

00:45:21.090 --> 00:45:23.050
But as the year has gone on, it's been growing

00:45:23.050 --> 00:45:26.090
on me more and more. And I am seeing it was their

00:45:26.090 --> 00:45:29.510
second one is a really good effort, too. But

00:45:29.510 --> 00:45:32.090
it's just it would be amazing if they could ever

00:45:32.090 --> 00:45:34.670
match the same level of songwriting they did

00:45:34.670 --> 00:45:37.070
on that first record. I have to check the first

00:45:37.070 --> 00:45:40.690
one out because I did check the new album out

00:45:40.690 --> 00:45:52.750
due to the fact that. A bunch of different. And

00:45:52.750 --> 00:45:58.650
online music sites voted that the new Wet Leg

00:45:58.650 --> 00:46:02.469
album as the album of the year. Okay. Yeah, I

00:46:02.469 --> 00:46:04.130
could see that. So I checked that out. And I

00:46:04.130 --> 00:46:08.329
mean... Yeah, it's one that's growing on me and

00:46:08.329 --> 00:46:11.150
I'm starting to enjoy a lot more. Yeah, I'm trying

00:46:11.150 --> 00:46:18.320
to think. I know CPR is the one song. which is

00:46:18.320 --> 00:46:20.599
being played a lot. And then there's another

00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:27.639
song that I've been playing a lot recently. I

00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:30.400
don't remember the name of the song, but what

00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:33.260
caught my attention after they mentioned how

00:46:33.260 --> 00:46:38.820
it was the album of the year was that she's playing

00:46:38.820 --> 00:46:45.000
an acrylic BC Rich bitch. That's something that

00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:47.780
I've always wanted to, uh, back in the nineties,

00:46:47.800 --> 00:46:49.579
I always thought that they were great. And I

00:46:49.579 --> 00:46:53.039
remember I, when I interviewed, um, Patrick Kennison,

00:46:53.179 --> 00:46:57.920
who is Lita Ford's, uh, guitarist. And he's also

00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:01.440
got a band called, um, heaven below. He was in

00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:05.420
a band called the union underground. Um, he used

00:47:05.420 --> 00:47:09.019
to play acrylic BC riches all the time. And I

00:47:09.019 --> 00:47:12.360
will pick one up once. And I was like, nah, it's,

00:47:12.780 --> 00:47:15.420
too much, you know, I'll wait, I'll wait. And

00:47:15.420 --> 00:47:18.300
a lot of times you wait and they're just gone.

00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:24.519
Yeah. That was another thing that I wanted to

00:47:24.519 --> 00:47:29.860
discuss was other things that we listened to

00:47:29.860 --> 00:47:34.579
this year that weren't necessarily metal albums.

00:47:35.820 --> 00:47:38.420
What are some other things that you guys checked

00:47:38.420 --> 00:47:42.500
out? throughout this year that you think is worthy

00:47:42.500 --> 00:47:45.599
to mention that isn't exactly hard rock or metal?

00:47:48.840 --> 00:47:56.719
Ed, anything else besides wet leg? Yeah, I was

00:47:56.719 --> 00:47:59.400
just going to give Jeremy a chance to talk there.

00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:02.519
I'm not sure I listened to a hell of a lot that

00:48:02.519 --> 00:48:06.960
wasn't hard rock or metal, to be honest. I can't

00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:10.380
think of anything. I'm such a metalhead, such

00:48:10.380 --> 00:48:19.260
a rockhead. I do. This is not. I have a couple

00:48:19.260 --> 00:48:24.659
of songs that I absolutely love that in one of

00:48:24.659 --> 00:48:29.179
them I sent to you last January. I got sick with

00:48:29.179 --> 00:48:33.400
something for a couple of weeks. And I'm on TikTok

00:48:33.400 --> 00:48:40.050
and I started seeing a video clip from. This

00:48:40.050 --> 00:48:45.289
gal named Eka Van Vandel. Okay. Her first name

00:48:45.289 --> 00:48:51.710
is E -C -C -A. And it was, I don't know if that's

00:48:51.710 --> 00:48:55.289
her name. She has a whole band behind her. I

00:48:55.289 --> 00:48:58.710
don't know if that's her name and they've named

00:48:58.710 --> 00:49:01.610
the band that as well or not. I have a hard time

00:49:01.610 --> 00:49:04.730
knowing exactly what their story is. But they

00:49:04.730 --> 00:49:10.150
had a song called Cruising to Self -Sooth. And

00:49:10.150 --> 00:49:12.909
I tell you, I think it's one of the best rock

00:49:12.909 --> 00:49:18.190
songs that I've heard in years. Okay. I can't

00:49:18.190 --> 00:49:21.570
remember enjoying a rock song this much since

00:49:21.570 --> 00:49:27.710
maybe probably Weezer 10 years ago or, you know,

00:49:27.730 --> 00:49:30.789
that Queens of the Stone Age song that's so popular

00:49:30.789 --> 00:49:34.750
that I'm forgetting the name of now. Yeah. It's

00:49:34.750 --> 00:49:37.170
that good. You know, a song that'll get stuck

00:49:37.170 --> 00:49:40.570
in your head. for hours. This one gets stuck

00:49:40.570 --> 00:49:43.190
in my head for days on end after I heard it.

00:49:46.170 --> 00:49:51.269
And it's just, it's the, the song itself, it's

00:49:51.269 --> 00:49:55.670
kind of, it's, it's got a mix of sounds that

00:49:55.670 --> 00:49:58.170
take me back to like the late eighties and early

00:49:58.170 --> 00:50:02.909
nineties with both alternative and grungy Nirvana

00:50:02.909 --> 00:50:06.769
type sounds. So like in, in the verse, you'll

00:50:06.769 --> 00:50:10.099
hear these, uh sounds in the guitar playing that

00:50:10.099 --> 00:50:12.619
makes you think of stuff like the pixies almost

00:50:12.619 --> 00:50:15.900
and then when she gets to the chorus you get

00:50:15.900 --> 00:50:19.139
a raging nirvana -like chorus and the melodies

00:50:19.139 --> 00:50:22.079
are going up and down and in ways that get stuck

00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:24.760
in your head and it's got some very inspirational

00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:29.519
lyrics to it as well um now if i go to itunes

00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:32.159
trying to learn more about them they don't have

00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:34.800
a lot of music and the other songs that i listen

00:50:34.800 --> 00:50:37.960
to are completely different So when I first heard

00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:42.460
this, I thought it was like an alternative rock

00:50:42.460 --> 00:50:45.360
band of some sort. But a lot of the other songs,

00:50:45.420 --> 00:50:49.179
it's like a whole other genre. So I'm guessing

00:50:49.179 --> 00:50:51.539
she just likes to shake things up and do different

00:50:51.539 --> 00:50:55.059
styles of music. Anybody out there who wants

00:50:55.059 --> 00:50:57.360
to school this on Echo Vandal, please do. I'd

00:50:57.360 --> 00:51:02.260
like to learn more about them. And also, Jeremy,

00:51:02.420 --> 00:51:05.070
have you thought of anything yet? Well, only

00:51:05.070 --> 00:51:07.769
one that I did listen to, actually, in the last

00:51:07.769 --> 00:51:10.650
few weeks was the Robbie Williams album. And

00:51:10.650 --> 00:51:12.610
one of the reasons, of course, was because Tony

00:51:12.610 --> 00:51:16.210
Iommi was on there. And also because my wife

00:51:16.210 --> 00:51:18.389
likes Robbie Williams. And we have actually seen

00:51:18.389 --> 00:51:21.610
him live together. And he was excellent. You

00:51:21.610 --> 00:51:23.750
know, he is Robbie. You know what you're going

00:51:23.750 --> 00:51:25.670
to get with him. And I thought the album was

00:51:25.670 --> 00:51:28.710
pretty good. I thought it was very typical of

00:51:28.710 --> 00:51:33.829
his stuff. A little bit old school. mix of songs

00:51:33.829 --> 00:51:37.110
uh perfectly listenable if you like that sort

00:51:37.110 --> 00:51:42.230
of thing so yeah that was okay yeah i'm i'm trying

00:51:42.230 --> 00:51:48.750
to look through my 2025 uh playlist here to see

00:51:48.750 --> 00:51:54.949
what kind of stood out that um that i've in here

00:51:54.949 --> 00:51:59.539
that isn't exactly metal There are some things

00:51:59.539 --> 00:52:06.320
that are hard rock and metal. There's songs off

00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:11.719
of the Last Lady Gaga album in here. There's...

00:52:11.719 --> 00:52:20.219
I mean, for the most part, almost everything

00:52:20.219 --> 00:52:26.659
in here is as... mark would say loud rock because

00:52:26.659 --> 00:52:31.000
i'm seeing hardcore i'm seeing you know stuff

00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:34.739
that even like sick puppy or mammoth which is

00:52:34.739 --> 00:52:38.980
still kind of radio rock you know it's still

00:52:38.980 --> 00:52:45.219
in the vein of what we tend to discuss i listen

00:52:45.219 --> 00:52:48.000
to the faces album you know the early faces stuff

00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:51.190
i think they released an album of um Just sort

00:52:51.190 --> 00:52:53.110
of stuff that never got released in the early

00:52:53.110 --> 00:52:56.809
days with Rod Stewart on and obviously Ronnie

00:52:56.809 --> 00:52:59.789
Wood. And that was just interesting to hear.

00:52:59.909 --> 00:53:01.329
I mean, it was stuff that you wouldn't necessarily

00:53:01.329 --> 00:53:05.489
buy. It was kind of, you know, off cuts and studio

00:53:05.489 --> 00:53:07.730
outtakes and all that sort of stuff. But just

00:53:07.730 --> 00:53:09.809
very interesting to hear all that early stuff

00:53:09.809 --> 00:53:14.329
as they were crafting it and, you know, building

00:53:14.329 --> 00:53:17.030
their name. So that, you know, that sort of thing

00:53:17.030 --> 00:53:21.690
could be of interest. Yeah, I've got a lot of

00:53:21.690 --> 00:53:27.030
that last album by The Hives. I mean, The Hives

00:53:27.030 --> 00:53:30.829
is something that kind of crosses over because

00:53:30.829 --> 00:53:34.829
it, yes, it's rock, but just it's so energetic.

00:53:34.829 --> 00:53:38.889
There's just so many elements to it that isn't

00:53:38.889 --> 00:53:41.849
that far removed from, say, like the helicopters

00:53:41.849 --> 00:53:47.239
or stuff that's more. you know, more marketed

00:53:47.239 --> 00:53:54.019
towards us. Whereas shit, the singer of the hives

00:53:54.019 --> 00:53:57.800
was one of the possible replacements for Brian

00:53:57.800 --> 00:54:08.500
Johnson and ACDC. So it ultimately went to Axl

00:54:08.500 --> 00:54:15.750
Rose. I've also got Twisted, which is a – they're

00:54:15.750 --> 00:54:20.389
more known as a hip -hop band. They're kind of

00:54:20.389 --> 00:54:27.210
parallels with the Insane Clown Posse. Yes. You

00:54:27.210 --> 00:54:29.590
know, my friend's CD collection that I've been

00:54:29.590 --> 00:54:33.269
going through, he had some Twisted CDs. Okay.

00:54:34.329 --> 00:54:36.949
So, yeah, they've been around probably. Oh, yeah,

00:54:37.010 --> 00:54:39.929
yeah. But I've never heard of them until then.

00:54:40.889 --> 00:54:42.710
Lo and behold, you mentioned. Yeah, there are

00:54:42.710 --> 00:54:47.690
songs off of this last album of theirs that remind

00:54:47.690 --> 00:54:53.369
me of like in the 90s when Everlast, who was

00:54:53.369 --> 00:54:56.190
a member of House of Pain, put out some albums

00:54:56.190 --> 00:55:00.269
that had rap on it. But he kind of jumped on

00:55:00.269 --> 00:55:03.289
what Johnny Cash was doing at the time as well,

00:55:03.409 --> 00:55:10.619
where he got some pretty decent airplay. in my

00:55:10.619 --> 00:55:17.400
area because it was acoustic music with him with

00:55:17.400 --> 00:55:22.519
some like sampled beats behind it and with some

00:55:22.519 --> 00:55:25.920
of it was singing some of it was him rapping

00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:29.179
over and you know with the advent of new metal

00:55:29.179 --> 00:55:32.019
and stuff like that that became more accessible

00:55:32.019 --> 00:55:34.179
to classic rock and because it's an acoustic

00:55:34.179 --> 00:55:41.110
guitar you had other bands like I'm going to

00:55:41.110 --> 00:55:43.510
say Tantric, but there was a band before them,

00:55:43.550 --> 00:55:45.809
Days of the New, which is where Tantric came

00:55:45.809 --> 00:55:52.090
from, which was kind of that acoustic music with

00:55:52.090 --> 00:55:56.769
different percussion instruments behind them.

00:55:57.650 --> 00:56:04.150
Right. I'm looking at what I listened to most

00:56:04.150 --> 00:56:11.179
this year, stuff that came out this year. And

00:56:11.179 --> 00:56:12.940
it's interesting. It looks like I listened to

00:56:12.940 --> 00:56:16.760
a lot of Killswitch Engage, The Halo Effect,

00:56:17.260 --> 00:56:21.400
King Witch, who I interviewed their singer, Laura

00:56:21.400 --> 00:56:24.980
Donnelly. I released that over the summer. Italian

00:56:24.980 --> 00:56:28.639
band Sick and Beautiful, Stick to Your Guns,

00:56:28.639 --> 00:56:35.119
Alien Weaponry, Brainstorm, Deftones. Brainstorm

00:56:35.119 --> 00:56:38.239
and Deftones are bands that I mentioned to Mark

00:56:38.239 --> 00:56:42.099
on. I think it was Talking Metal when we talked

00:56:42.099 --> 00:56:45.659
about some releases that came out this year.

00:56:49.719 --> 00:56:51.920
It's kind of weird. I know that I listen to a

00:56:51.920 --> 00:56:58.800
lot of Spirit Box as well. I'm thinking Arcade

00:56:58.800 --> 00:57:02.460
Fire had a record last year that I've been liking.

00:57:05.380 --> 00:57:12.469
Am I wrong about that? Let's see. Arcade Fire.

00:57:12.829 --> 00:57:16.369
Their last album was Pink Elephant. It was released

00:57:16.369 --> 00:57:22.130
in May. Yeah. Okay. So I can say if you're an

00:57:22.130 --> 00:57:26.110
Arcade Fire fan, which I am, that's a good album

00:57:26.110 --> 00:57:31.269
so far. The stuff that they released after Reflector,

00:57:31.349 --> 00:57:35.610
I have not liked at all. Okay. No interest in

00:57:35.610 --> 00:57:39.250
those records. I just did not like the songwriting.

00:57:39.289 --> 00:57:44.079
But this new one. I'm enjoying more. But I haven't

00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:47.280
listened to it enough that I could give you any

00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:51.199
good comments about it. Okay. But check it out

00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:54.880
if you like that band. Their album, The Suburbs,

00:57:54.880 --> 00:57:58.699
is one of my favorite indie rock records ever.

00:58:00.239 --> 00:58:05.420
Okay, cool. Ed, did you get to check the Megadeth

00:58:05.420 --> 00:58:09.219
out, or are you still waiting to do something?

00:58:09.449 --> 00:58:13.849
So I started on that today. Okay. I'm kind of

00:58:13.849 --> 00:58:16.210
doing like I do with my Kerry King album and

00:58:16.210 --> 00:58:22.630
digesting it slowly. So I've sat with four of

00:58:22.630 --> 00:58:25.050
the songs, the first four songs, driving around

00:58:25.050 --> 00:58:33.570
in the car. And so that will be on our next review.

00:58:33.670 --> 00:58:38.699
Right. January album. Okay. Yeah. I've got the

00:58:38.699 --> 00:58:41.900
rest of the record to go through before I have

00:58:41.900 --> 00:58:46.480
anything to say about it. Okay. No initial thoughts

00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:51.579
so far? We can compare to what you ultimately

00:58:51.579 --> 00:58:59.559
say for the January review? Well, okay. Everyone's

00:58:59.559 --> 00:59:03.500
said great things about it, and I agree. So far

00:59:03.500 --> 00:59:06.039
in the four songs, I've not heard something.

00:59:07.420 --> 00:59:09.980
better than what I've heard on the last album.

00:59:10.880 --> 00:59:13.280
But that doesn't mean what I'm hearing is not

00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:18.639
great so far. And the guitar soloing is just,

00:59:18.780 --> 00:59:23.579
like I said, magical. I'm starting to think Dave

00:59:23.579 --> 00:59:26.599
Mustaine has even gotten better, even though

00:59:26.599 --> 00:59:29.340
his hands are giving him trouble. Because sometimes

00:59:29.340 --> 00:59:31.659
I'm hearing guitar solos that I think is the

00:59:31.659 --> 00:59:34.239
new guy, but I know they're going back and forth.

00:59:34.730 --> 00:59:36.550
I'm going to have to sit down with it, you know,

00:59:36.570 --> 00:59:39.289
the notes sometime. And there's some things that

00:59:39.289 --> 00:59:42.289
I'm thinking or that I can't tell if it's Dave

00:59:42.289 --> 00:59:45.849
or not, as if he's maybe taking a few lessons

00:59:45.849 --> 00:59:49.010
from this guy. Yeah, that's. You might be too

00:59:49.010 --> 00:59:52.010
proud to hear somebody say that. That's interesting

00:59:52.010 --> 01:00:01.989
because there. There were reviews that I read

01:00:01.989 --> 01:00:06.710
beforehand that said that Teemu did the majority

01:00:06.710 --> 01:00:08.829
of the soloing. And I'm listening to the songs

01:00:08.829 --> 01:00:11.730
today. I'm like, that's Dave soloing. That's

01:00:11.730 --> 01:00:15.230
Dave soloing. You know, there's definitely, I

01:00:15.230 --> 01:00:18.949
think Dave is soloing on every track. Is Teemu

01:00:18.949 --> 01:00:21.969
soloing more than Dave on the tracks? Maybe.

01:00:23.730 --> 01:00:26.489
Yeah, I think he probably is. Yeah, I think I

01:00:26.489 --> 01:00:28.900
would be. Pressed to have a Megadeth album that

01:00:28.900 --> 01:00:32.099
Dave isn't going to put his stamp all over, you

01:00:32.099 --> 01:00:34.659
know, that he isn't going to be doing the soloing.

01:00:36.199 --> 01:00:39.219
Another thing that helps me gauge the Megadeth

01:00:39.219 --> 01:00:42.739
record are songs on there that I might be excited

01:00:42.739 --> 01:00:45.980
enough to want to learn to play. And usually

01:00:45.980 --> 01:00:48.400
there's two or three that I enjoy learning to

01:00:48.400 --> 01:00:53.099
play. And I think I am excited maybe to learn

01:00:53.099 --> 01:00:56.340
how to play Tipping Point. Not guitar solos.

01:00:56.340 --> 01:00:59.139
I'm a rhythm guitar player here. I'm a wannabe

01:00:59.139 --> 01:01:06.500
guitar soloist. So that's a good sign of me liking

01:01:06.500 --> 01:01:16.059
that record. I just lost my thought on the second

01:01:16.059 --> 01:01:18.250
thing I was going to say about it. So continue

01:01:18.250 --> 01:01:19.809
on. I'll have to jump back in. Yeah, there's

01:01:19.809 --> 01:01:22.269
a song all the way at the end of the album that

01:01:22.269 --> 01:01:26.590
may be catchy and you may want to... Now I remember.

01:01:27.769 --> 01:01:30.429
I keep hearing people complaining about his voice.

01:01:31.110 --> 01:01:33.570
His voice sounds the same damn way it's always

01:01:33.570 --> 01:01:35.449
sounded. There's nothing different about it.

01:01:36.090 --> 01:01:39.150
I think people are just... You know, TikTok is

01:01:39.150 --> 01:01:44.829
starting to kind of piss me off with... You know,

01:01:44.849 --> 01:01:48.679
for a while... Okay, I'm not going to go on a

01:01:48.679 --> 01:01:50.780
tangent. I'm ready to, but I'm going to not do

01:01:50.780 --> 01:01:55.980
it. But talking about metal on TikTok is starting

01:01:55.980 --> 01:01:59.539
to be ruined for me. Because there's people just

01:01:59.539 --> 01:02:02.260
looking for stuff to complain about to make videos.

01:02:02.320 --> 01:02:05.380
Right. And so you're getting a lot of videos

01:02:05.380 --> 01:02:08.360
of people wanting to complain about things on

01:02:08.360 --> 01:02:13.340
this album, like his vocals, that there's nothing

01:02:13.340 --> 01:02:16.650
different there to be complaining about. And

01:02:16.650 --> 01:02:21.110
so people are just making this stuff up. Now,

01:02:21.210 --> 01:02:23.150
like I said, I only heard four songs. And one

01:02:23.150 --> 01:02:26.190
of those songs is that I kept seeing TikTok videos

01:02:26.190 --> 01:02:28.650
of people complaining about the, I don't care

01:02:28.650 --> 01:02:32.110
about, you know, X, Y, and Z. Acting like he

01:02:32.110 --> 01:02:34.309
sounded really cringe. His voice sounded cringe

01:02:34.309 --> 01:02:37.070
in that. And, you know, we were all chatting

01:02:37.070 --> 01:02:40.010
about it before and, you know, reminiscing on

01:02:40.010 --> 01:02:42.730
P -cells and songs, you know, very similar to

01:02:42.730 --> 01:02:46.719
it. I mean, his voice actually sounds, you know,

01:02:46.739 --> 01:02:50.860
better and more mature than it does on, you know,

01:02:50.880 --> 01:02:52.940
peace cells. I mean, the peace cells, his voice

01:02:52.940 --> 01:02:55.159
is probably a little whinier than it is on this

01:02:55.159 --> 01:02:58.280
record. Yeah. So I don't, I think people are

01:02:58.280 --> 01:03:01.139
just, they're just looking for stuff to attention.

01:03:01.659 --> 01:03:04.420
Take you off of that. They're looking for attention.

01:03:04.840 --> 01:03:07.980
Like I posted earlier today where a lot of people

01:03:07.980 --> 01:03:10.940
are complaining about their. Ride the Lightning

01:03:10.940 --> 01:03:16.659
cover. I think it sounds good. Is he doubling

01:03:16.659 --> 01:03:19.079
the vocals like Hetfield did on the original

01:03:19.079 --> 01:03:24.219
in parts? No, he's not doing that. But it's fucking

01:03:24.219 --> 01:03:28.260
Dave Mustaine. I mean, he's not going to sound

01:03:28.260 --> 01:03:31.079
like Bruce Dickinson all of a sudden. He's not

01:03:31.079 --> 01:03:35.480
going to. Dave's voice has always been Dave's

01:03:35.480 --> 01:03:39.860
voice, and you either got it or you didn't. And

01:03:39.860 --> 01:03:43.519
that's the thing, you know, there's so many thrash

01:03:43.519 --> 01:03:46.800
bands specifically where you can look at Dave

01:03:46.800 --> 01:03:49.039
Mustaine. You could look at Blitz from Overkill.

01:03:49.079 --> 01:03:55.019
You could look at Zetro from Exodus, you know,

01:03:55.019 --> 01:03:58.599
where it's an acquired. That's hard to handle.

01:03:58.659 --> 01:04:02.079
So to the voice, you either like it or you don't.

01:04:02.079 --> 01:04:06.480
I've always liked. Yeah. Mustaine's and Blitz's

01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:09.239
voice, and I've never really cared for Zetro's

01:04:09.239 --> 01:04:15.900
voice. Me too. You know? So it's, listen, two

01:04:15.900 --> 01:04:18.940
on their last album, 40 years in, you're going

01:04:18.940 --> 01:04:21.519
to start to complain about his voice? Well, duh.

01:04:22.119 --> 01:04:25.880
Did he sound like a crooner on Killing Is My

01:04:25.880 --> 01:04:27.920
Business? Did he sound like Tom Jones on that

01:04:27.920 --> 01:04:31.610
album? Did he sound like Pavarotti on Countdown

01:04:31.610 --> 01:04:34.409
for Extinction? You know, that all of a sudden

01:04:34.409 --> 01:04:38.550
it's become an issue? Get at it. Yeah. Yeah,

01:04:38.570 --> 01:04:41.730
I actually thought his voice sounded as least

01:04:41.730 --> 01:04:45.590
cringed as it ever had on those four songs. I

01:04:45.590 --> 01:04:47.769
don't know what people are talking about. The

01:04:47.769 --> 01:04:51.309
album is possibly the best album they've released

01:04:51.309 --> 01:04:56.030
sonically. Everything sounds so clean on it.

01:04:56.610 --> 01:04:59.119
And you know what? The album you can compare

01:04:59.119 --> 01:05:01.460
it to the most right off the bat is Endgame.

01:05:02.280 --> 01:05:05.280
It's got that same kind of distortion and tone,

01:05:05.420 --> 01:05:09.000
and the way they mix everything is very similar

01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:12.360
to that record there, except even better. Yeah,

01:05:12.400 --> 01:05:20.360
I think it sounds, to me, and we'll talk about

01:05:20.360 --> 01:05:23.539
this more next month. To me, I think it's, for

01:05:23.539 --> 01:05:27.550
my taste, It's the most listenable album for

01:05:27.550 --> 01:05:35.409
me since United Abominations, which to me, United

01:05:35.409 --> 01:05:38.849
Abominations is one of my favorites by the band,

01:05:38.929 --> 01:05:41.849
but it's the last, in my opinion, the last great

01:05:41.849 --> 01:05:44.429
album they've released, where from beginning

01:05:44.429 --> 01:05:49.969
to end, it's the most consistent as far as the

01:05:49.969 --> 01:05:52.230
songs are concerned. That doesn't take anything

01:05:52.230 --> 01:05:55.809
away from... dystopia the sick the dying and

01:05:55.809 --> 01:06:02.610
the dead i just think those albums yeah you know

01:06:02.610 --> 01:06:05.989
i may have to agree with you on that when i think

01:06:05.989 --> 01:06:09.690
about it that there are songs that i like better

01:06:09.690 --> 01:06:13.210
than the songs on united abomination on the later

01:06:13.210 --> 01:06:16.650
records but as a whole just sitting down to listen

01:06:16.650 --> 01:06:19.309
to it the whole record non -stop you're right

01:06:19.309 --> 01:06:21.590
that's probably one of the best ones yeah yeah

01:06:22.159 --> 01:06:27.099
I think that the previous two to this, there's

01:06:27.099 --> 01:06:33.639
a point with some of the songs where they're

01:06:33.639 --> 01:06:39.500
kind of going Judas Priest route. When Halford

01:06:39.500 --> 01:06:43.019
came back to the fold, it just felt to me that

01:06:43.019 --> 01:06:46.320
they were lost for some time, where they were

01:06:46.320 --> 01:06:51.269
putting out albums where... They were almost

01:06:51.269 --> 01:06:55.550
imitating themselves where it was, okay, let's

01:06:55.550 --> 01:06:58.969
put out a song that sounds like painkiller. Let's

01:06:58.969 --> 01:07:01.630
record another song that sounds like living after

01:07:01.630 --> 01:07:05.489
midnight. Like those first few albums all needed

01:07:05.489 --> 01:07:09.269
to have like touchstones that went back to something

01:07:09.269 --> 01:07:12.369
else. And it seemed like to me, dystopian, the

01:07:12.369 --> 01:07:14.610
sick, the dying and the dead, they needed to

01:07:14.610 --> 01:07:16.570
prove that they could still be a thrash band

01:07:16.570 --> 01:07:21.019
after super collider. Which is fine with me.

01:07:21.139 --> 01:07:24.179
Yeah. Which again, I don't think that they're

01:07:24.179 --> 01:07:27.460
bad albums. I just think that this album to me

01:07:27.460 --> 01:07:31.260
overall is better because I think those other

01:07:31.260 --> 01:07:34.480
albums, they kind of worried too much about being

01:07:34.480 --> 01:07:38.940
over the top thrash and kind of some of the other

01:07:38.940 --> 01:07:42.900
songs are just kind of okay. So I don't know,

01:07:42.920 --> 01:07:47.619
just my. Yeah, I do have a lot more to say, but

01:07:47.619 --> 01:07:51.800
I'll say that. Yeah, that's fine. Even just with

01:07:51.800 --> 01:07:54.420
the four songs, I have quite a bit to say. I'm

01:07:54.420 --> 01:07:57.519
excited to listen to the rest. Hopefully I'll

01:07:57.519 --> 01:07:59.820
have power to be able to listen to the rest.

01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:01.880
We've got a big snowstorm starting tomorrow,

01:08:02.079 --> 01:08:04.860
and I'm right where we're going to have the heaviest

01:08:04.860 --> 01:08:09.260
snow, I think. But luckily, I think the ice is

01:08:09.260 --> 01:08:11.940
supposed to be further south, and that's what

01:08:11.940 --> 01:08:14.260
causes you to lose power the most. Well, let's

01:08:14.260 --> 01:08:20.159
hope that either one of two things, either that

01:08:20.159 --> 01:08:23.520
forces you to stay inside and listen to the album.

01:08:24.340 --> 01:08:28.420
That's the plan. Or what would happen to us is

01:08:28.420 --> 01:08:31.680
you would end up shoveling snow and listening

01:08:31.680 --> 01:08:36.800
to the latest album that you got. That's what

01:08:36.800 --> 01:08:39.119
I'll be doing. When it's out snowing, it puts

01:08:39.119 --> 01:08:41.560
me in a mood for black metal. I'm not a huge

01:08:41.560 --> 01:08:43.899
black metal fan, but that's when I do get in

01:08:43.899 --> 01:08:47.020
the mood, when the snow is flying around. You

01:08:47.020 --> 01:08:48.859
feel like you're in one of those album covers,

01:08:48.979 --> 01:08:51.659
you know? So if anyone is in the Lexington area,

01:08:51.840 --> 01:08:56.100
if they drive by somebody who's shoveling snow

01:08:56.100 --> 01:08:59.520
and has Norwegian black metal face paint on.

01:09:00.070 --> 01:09:04.649
You'll know it's Ed Ferguson. That'd be a sight

01:09:04.649 --> 01:09:06.609
to see with this big honker of mine in the middle

01:09:06.609 --> 01:09:14.229
of the woods. Oh, man. Hey, so here's something

01:09:14.229 --> 01:09:20.430
different. A movie. But it's a movie that's so

01:09:20.430 --> 01:09:23.670
heavily musically influenced. I got to see if

01:09:23.670 --> 01:09:26.829
you all have ever heard it. So the movie actually

01:09:26.829 --> 01:09:29.409
is from 2020, but I didn't hear about it until,

01:09:29.609 --> 01:09:32.550
again, last year at this time when I was sick.

01:09:34.069 --> 01:09:39.149
And again, it was TikTok. People were making

01:09:39.149 --> 01:09:44.109
videos with a song in the background that I was

01:09:44.109 --> 01:09:49.789
hearing, a very simple two -chord song. And I

01:09:49.789 --> 01:09:53.329
heard this video. A few times, and then the song

01:09:53.329 --> 01:09:55.729
got stuck in my brain for like two or three days.

01:09:55.810 --> 01:09:58.970
I couldn't get it out. So I looked it up and

01:09:58.970 --> 01:10:03.369
found out that it's a song called The Watermelon

01:10:03.369 --> 01:10:10.510
Song. It's just called Watermelon. The artist's

01:10:10.510 --> 01:10:15.590
name is John and Jane Q Public. I don't know

01:10:15.590 --> 01:10:19.510
exactly. Now, that's not a band, I don't think.

01:10:21.069 --> 01:10:25.569
This comes from a movie. Okay. And so I discovered

01:10:25.569 --> 01:10:28.489
the movie through this TikTok video trying to

01:10:28.489 --> 01:10:31.390
chase down where this song comes from. And it's

01:10:31.390 --> 01:10:34.310
called Dinner in America. Okay. Have you ever

01:10:34.310 --> 01:10:39.329
heard of that or watched it? So, man, it's like

01:10:39.329 --> 01:10:42.170
a dark comedy, but it's super intense. It's about

01:10:42.170 --> 01:10:45.970
this wild punk rocker kid who's in all kinds

01:10:45.970 --> 01:10:50.380
of trouble for, like, starting fires. It starts

01:10:50.380 --> 01:10:53.460
off with him in some kind of hospital taking

01:10:53.460 --> 01:10:57.279
drugs, you know, for money, you know, for scientific

01:10:57.279 --> 01:11:01.500
reasons, you know. And he ends up meeting this

01:11:01.500 --> 01:11:06.039
extremely odd girl who is actually his biggest

01:11:06.039 --> 01:11:12.399
fan. He actually plays in a hardcore band. And

01:11:12.399 --> 01:11:15.939
so it's this intense movie of this guy trying

01:11:15.939 --> 01:11:19.939
to hide from the police. And then in hiding from

01:11:19.939 --> 01:11:23.899
the police, he runs into this girl who has a

01:11:23.899 --> 01:11:27.199
huge crush on him. She's one of the strangest.

01:11:27.979 --> 01:11:30.420
It's like these two extremely strange characters

01:11:30.420 --> 01:11:34.000
getting to know each other. And there's just

01:11:34.000 --> 01:11:37.539
tons of intense hardcore and punk music throughout

01:11:37.539 --> 01:11:41.359
the movie. But there's this one. spot in the

01:11:41.359 --> 01:11:44.000
movie where they break into this home and there's

01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:45.779
a bunch of music equipment it's actually his

01:11:45.779 --> 01:11:49.420
parents house he's been kicked out of and um

01:11:49.420 --> 01:11:52.060
the two of them start playing this song that's

01:11:52.060 --> 01:11:53.880
called watermelon and of course in the movie

01:11:53.880 --> 01:11:55.539
they're just kind of making it up on the fly

01:11:55.539 --> 01:12:00.100
but it's just this real simple tune that is fun

01:12:00.100 --> 01:12:03.260
to listen to and i've been had it on my itunes

01:12:03.260 --> 01:12:05.359
all year and i've watched the movie two or three

01:12:05.359 --> 01:12:10.319
times so If you just want a fun musical -based

01:12:10.319 --> 01:12:13.180
kind of, like I said, it's a dark comedy movie

01:12:13.180 --> 01:12:15.659
to watch, check it out. You might like it, especially

01:12:15.659 --> 01:12:17.460
if you kind of like hardcore music and stuff.

01:12:18.079 --> 01:12:22.600
And it was called Dinner in America. Or it's

01:12:22.600 --> 01:12:25.979
D -I -N -N -E -R. Is that Diner or Dinner? That's

01:12:25.979 --> 01:12:36.260
Dinner. Yeah. Okay. And I saw it on Hulu. If

01:12:36.260 --> 01:12:39.960
you have that, I think it's on there. Yeah, Hulu

01:12:39.960 --> 01:12:44.479
for me is Disney +, because it's owned by Disney.

01:12:45.100 --> 01:12:48.840
But then licensing varies from country to country.

01:12:48.899 --> 01:12:51.220
So it could be on there. It could be on something

01:12:51.220 --> 01:12:57.760
else. I'll check it out. 91 % on Rotten Tomatoes.

01:12:57.760 --> 01:13:01.479
There you go. Yeah. And especially if you're

01:13:01.479 --> 01:13:03.399
the kind of person that's grown up feeling out

01:13:03.399 --> 01:13:05.899
of place and insecure and odd and strange and

01:13:05.899 --> 01:13:08.539
all, you'll definitely connect with these characters.

01:13:08.720 --> 01:13:15.039
Yeah. So, yeah. So next week we're going to be

01:13:15.039 --> 01:13:20.319
doing the 2025 albums countdown. There are a

01:13:20.319 --> 01:13:23.800
bunch of interviews that have already been recorded

01:13:23.800 --> 01:13:27.720
that will be coming out. Throughout February,

01:13:27.880 --> 01:13:30.119
I got to figure out how we're going to schedule

01:13:30.119 --> 01:13:32.500
everything because we're going to have a January

01:13:32.500 --> 01:13:36.819
albums episode as well. But so far, you guys

01:13:36.819 --> 01:13:40.159
can look forward to interviews from bands like

01:13:40.159 --> 01:13:43.960
Greyhawk, Struck a Nerve, a Wilhelm. I released

01:13:43.960 --> 01:13:49.680
Struck a Nerve already. A Wilhelm Scream host.

01:13:49.880 --> 01:13:53.239
And next week, I'm going to be talking to members

01:13:53.239 --> 01:13:57.779
of the band Tail Gunner. So, yeah, I've gotten

01:13:57.779 --> 01:14:00.640
back into the groove of doing interviews and

01:14:00.640 --> 01:14:06.659
I've got PR people that are trying to get me

01:14:06.659 --> 01:14:12.159
to interview a lot more artists. Again, I think

01:14:12.159 --> 01:14:15.399
those shorts are helping out because I'm getting

01:14:15.399 --> 01:14:19.659
a ton of traffic that way. And so be it. I mean,

01:14:19.680 --> 01:14:23.159
we can mix up interviews with this type of music

01:14:23.159 --> 01:14:25.960
discussion, which is... for me is always fun

01:14:25.960 --> 01:14:33.159
to do. Yeah. Awesome. So, yeah. So send your

01:14:33.159 --> 01:14:35.939
votes in. If you want to vote for your favorites

01:14:35.939 --> 01:14:39.500
of 2025, as usual, even if it isn't 10 albums,

01:14:39.619 --> 01:14:43.260
send us three albums, send us one album, send

01:14:43.260 --> 01:14:47.100
us five, whatever it is I'll work with. But either

01:14:47.100 --> 01:14:50.600
way, it'll be a fun episode for you guys to check

01:14:50.600 --> 01:14:54.819
out and hope that. You're in the chat. Join us

01:14:54.819 --> 01:14:59.819
next Friday. Any parting words, Ed or Jeremy?

01:15:02.119 --> 01:15:04.420
Just that there's been some great albums this

01:15:04.420 --> 01:15:07.359
year again, and it's been wonderful to hear such

01:15:07.359 --> 01:15:10.100
great music month after month, week after week.

01:15:10.420 --> 01:15:16.600
Let's hope it carries on in 2026. Yeah. Go ahead,

01:15:16.600 --> 01:15:20.380
Ed. Yeah, you know, 2026 has started off kind

01:15:20.380 --> 01:15:24.439
of slow, actually. I don't think I've liked anything

01:15:24.439 --> 01:15:28.199
yet that much besides, yeah, the Megadeth. And,

01:15:28.220 --> 01:15:29.920
of course, I'm listening to the Creator, too.

01:15:30.039 --> 01:15:33.859
But, yeah, it's been kind of lightweight so far.

01:15:34.619 --> 01:15:37.300
But, yeah, I'll keep listening. And if you can't

01:15:37.300 --> 01:15:39.279
find me next week, everybody come dig me out

01:15:39.279 --> 01:15:45.779
of the snow. Well, hopefully when we do the January

01:15:45.779 --> 01:15:49.800
albums episode, you'll change your tune and you'll

01:15:49.800 --> 01:15:53.600
find some things that have stood out. Yeah, we

01:15:53.600 --> 01:15:56.539
got one more week left, so we'll see. I just

01:15:56.539 --> 01:15:59.979
added a new list of stuff today that came out

01:15:59.979 --> 01:16:03.800
today. Okay. Well, hopefully something catches

01:16:03.800 --> 01:16:07.939
your ear. I also add everything that you have

01:16:07.939 --> 01:16:10.359
on the spreadsheet, too, in case there's... you

01:16:10.359 --> 01:16:13.739
know, something else there that I find. So I'm

01:16:13.739 --> 01:16:16.760
going through it all the best I can. That's all

01:16:16.760 --> 01:16:22.380
we can ask, Ed. Awesome. So on that note, I do

01:16:22.380 --> 01:16:24.520
want to thank Ed and Jeremy for joining me. I

01:16:24.520 --> 01:16:28.720
want to thank Edgar for joining me in the chat,

01:16:28.859 --> 01:16:31.420
joining us in the chat today. There are a few

01:16:31.420 --> 01:16:35.680
other people that have joined us tonight also.

01:16:35.899 --> 01:16:38.680
I don't know if Tony, if you're there. as you

01:16:38.680 --> 01:16:42.060
usually are. Hopefully all is well on your side

01:16:42.060 --> 01:16:44.300
of the world, on your side of the country, actually.

01:16:45.380 --> 01:16:48.399
And that's basically it. We will see you next

01:16:48.399 --> 01:16:52.199
time right here on Signals from Mars. See if

01:16:52.199 --> 01:16:54.899
I said that right. I don't know why I keep thinking

01:16:54.899 --> 01:16:58.359
I'm going to spout out the old name. But anyway,

01:16:58.539 --> 01:17:01.659
thank you, guys. We'll see you next time on Signals

01:17:01.659 --> 01:17:26.590
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