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Welcome on and all to another episode of Signals

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from Mars. We are back with another exciting

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episode. Brad trying to get the, what is it,

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the balloons to appear? I don't know. I'm going

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to jump ahead. Here's what cracked me up about

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the Sabbath thing, back to the beginning, is

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how many people were doing this? Which it is

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technically Sabbath, right? Right. That's more

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associated to Dio than... Yeah, but totally associated

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with Dio because Ozzy was this. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

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All right. Enough of that. I got it. You got

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it. You got it. Okay, let's go. Jeremy is back.

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Brad is back. And we're here to talk about...

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Black Sabbath, we're here to talk about the Back

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to the Beginning, the final show from Black Sabbath

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and Ozzy Osbourne. And yeah, so this was a monumental

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occasion. Reminds me a lot of, you know, things

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that happened yesteryear. Jeremy and I recently

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recorded an episode and we were talking about

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a Live Aid tribute that was going on and how,

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you know, this reminded me of Live Aid to an

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extent, reminded me of the Freddie Mercury tribute

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concert as well. There were so many other shows

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that during the 80s, early 90s, where you had

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these types of get togethers. And all -star jams

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and different things. And it feels like it's

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been a long time since something like this has

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taken place. Earlier today, I was thinking about

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the Taylor Hawkins tributes that they had done,

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which was a few years back. And unfortunately,

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those have never been released on DVD or anything

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like that. So I panicked when I was thinking

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about this. I'm like, they can't do that. With

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this, they need to release something. At least

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it was released on pay -per -view. The Taylor

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Hawkins stuff, they didn't do any type of pay

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-per -view for that. So I'm hoping that something

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is done so that us plebeian that we're not able

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to watch live or tied up for the... For the days

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where you could watch the event over again, weren't

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able to pull it off to watch it. But anyway,

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let's just run down the bands, the songs, and

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we'll discuss some of this stuff as we go along

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here. The day started out with Mastodon with

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Black Tongue, Blood and Thunder, and then them

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covering Supernot. First off, I thought it was

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real stupid for people to criticize on the Internet.

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Well, why are they forcing them to do Sabbath

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songs? It was the dumbest thing ever. You know,

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why can't they just all play their own songs?

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I'm surprised that. More bands didn't do what

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Guns N' Roses did, which is mostly Sabbath and

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two originals. But whatever. Going into this,

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I actually expected everybody to be doing Sabbath

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songs. There's such a huge catalog and all these

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bands are, you know, obviously there to celebrate

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Sabbath. I thought they would all do just Sabbath

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songs. But as it turned out, I thought what they

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did was pretty cool. And I enjoyed, I enjoyed

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all of it. So yeah. Yeah. Picky one song. Each

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was pretty good. I think. Yeah. Yeah. But I,

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but yeah, we'll get, we'll get the guns and roses.

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Yeah. Rival sons did do your worst. They did

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a electric funeral, obviously a Sabbath cover

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and they did secret. Anthrax did Indians, and

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they did Into the Void, covering Sabbath, and

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there people were complaining, oh, they didn't

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play enough songs. Well, you had Charlie coming

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back out with Pantera. You had Scott and Frank

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being part of several jams. Joey Belladonna and

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John Donace are the only ones that didn't come

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out in other things, and both songs that they

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played were fairly long. Yeah, Indians was really,

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and I'm failing at being an anthraxologist, but

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Victor, did you see them play Indians? I didn't

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see them play. I swear that they put something

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else in there. It wasn't just Indians. I don't

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know, Jeremy? Yeah, they seemed to do a little

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sort of something in the middle, didn't they?

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They weren't playing the entire song all the

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way through. I don't know what they were doing,

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really. They were going back to Indians. Yeah,

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yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. And also the bands

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were only playing 15 minutes. So, you know, what

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you were saying, those two songs were quite long.

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And so they didn't have time to fit in one more.

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No. Yeah. Then you had Hailstorm with Love Bites.

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And so do I. Rain your blood on me. And I think

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the shock cover of the day. Oh, yeah. Terry Mason.

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Yeah. By the way, Hailstorm were a storm. They

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were amazing. I mean, Lizzie Hale stole the show,

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I think, for certainly early on. And she was

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amazing. I really enjoyed it. Which is more the

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reason for me to pick up. Tickets for them and

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Volbeat. There you go. So following them was

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Lamb of God, who played Laid to Rest, Redneck,

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and then Children of the Grave. After that is

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where the jam started. And unfortunately, they're

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only listing the singers here. Because these

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were the whole band. You got the whole band.

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Okay, so the first jam was Ultimate Sin, was

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Lizzy Hale singing, was Nuno Betancourt, Jakey

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Lee. Adam Waitman. What's that? Adam Waitman,

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David Ellefson, Mike Borden. Yeah, okay, and

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Mike Borden on drums. Okay. Yeah, that was the

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first moment of where things almost broke down.

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Everything was running so smooth. They get on

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stage and they're ready to start playing. Where's

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Jake? Yeah. Well, some, some, I haven't, I mean,

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I've only seen footage from the crowd, but I've

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heard people say that him and Nuno weren't tuned

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to the same note or something like that. I'd

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be more worried about being tuned to the keyboard

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guy. That's what I'd be worried about. Yeah.

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Okay, so for this first jam, it was the same

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band throughout because then it was Shot in the

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Dark with David Draymond. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

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Then Sweet Leaf, which was... Sweet Leaf, I guess,

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was David Draymond as well? Yeah. No, that was

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Bettencourt, Borden. Oh, sorry, yeah, Draymond

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it was. Yeah, sorry. And Ellefson and Scott Ian.

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Yeah, okay. So Scott Ian came out. Okay. And

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then for Believer, it was Whitfield Crane on

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lead vocals. Yeah. And with that, it was Nuno.

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Who else was playing? Whitfield Crane. Scott

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Ian. Scott Ian. Yeah. Frank Bello. Two. Frank

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Bello. And then two from Sleep. Okay. Sleep and

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Sleep, yeah. And then Changes was the same lineup

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except it was Youngblood. Yeah, that was good.

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It was Adam Wakeman and Frank Bello. Yeah. And

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then we had Alice in Chains with Men in the Box.

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No, can I just intercept because we had the Jack

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Black video which wasn't live. The only reason

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I mention this is because it was unbelievably

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good. It was amazing. If you only see one thing

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from that show, you've got to watch that. It

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was incredibly good. With Rebel Ian, which is

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Scott Ian's son, and with Roman Morello, who's

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Tom Morello's son. Yeah. I did not know that.

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Mr. Crowley. It was, they did a really good,

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even my wife came in just to sort of, she came

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in in bits, you know, to see little bits of the

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show had popped in now and again. And she watched

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that and she said, that's amazing. They're doing

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a really good job. And they, they did. It was

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really good. Interestingly enough with, with

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Jack Black is his connection to Ronnie James

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Dio. And now him being a part of this. All right.

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So next was Alison Chains with Wood. or man in

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the box would, and fairies wear boots. Yeah.

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Uh, the audio went out during the show. Yeah.

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Yeah. Not, not too long, but enough to worry

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us, but they, they, they showed it again in one

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of the breaks. Yeah. So did they? Yeah. Yeah.

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So it's kind of like, God, I wanted to hear them

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do this, you know? Everyone was complaining.

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Where's it gone? Where's it gone? Yeah. William

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Duvall sounded good. Unfair. He was great. Yeah.

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Are we going to go back and talk about who was

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great and all that stuff? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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We'll do that in a second. Keep going. Gojira

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did Stranded, Silvera, Mea Culpa, and Under the

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Sun. sabbath cover and then we had you guys are

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going to have to help me with who the members

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of the bands were for for these jams so it was

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symptom of the universe yeah yeah so that was

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the the drum off section and then we had symptom

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of the universe with bettencourt morello and

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rudy salso okay breaking the law which um go

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ahead carrie billy corgan kk downing came on

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Adam Jones, Morello, Sarso. Okay. Snowblind.

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Kerry Corgan, Downing, Jones, Morello, Sarso.

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Okay. Flying High again. So this is when Sammy

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Hager came out, Bettencourt, and we had Vernon

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Reed, Sarso, Smith, and Wakeman. Yeah. Chad Smith.

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Which. So that was Betancourt, Hager, Morello,

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Salso, Smith and Wakeman. Bark at the Moon. That

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was Barker, Betancourt, Papa V, Breed, Salso

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and Wakeman. Train kept a rolling. So this is

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when Steven Tyler came out. So with Barker, Betancourt,

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Morello, Saso, Andrew Watt, and Ronnie Wood made

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an appearance. Yeah. And it's funny because on

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the graphic that you sent me, it says Aerosmith

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cover, but this is an old blues song. Aerosmith

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covered this. Yeah, that's right. Was it Yardbirds?

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Didn't they do this too? I think about that one.

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Yeah, maybe. Could be. So then Walk This Way

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and Whole Lotta Love. Yeah, so that was both

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done by Betancourt, Morello, Sarso, Smith, Tyler,

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and Watt. Okay. Then we move on to Pantera, who

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did Cowboys From Hell, Walk, Planet Caravan,

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and Electric Funeral. I don't get why two bands

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covered the same song. I get that the day is

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long. But, I mean... There might have been some

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pot smoking going on. Who knows? One of them

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was significantly better than the other one.

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Just saying. My opinion. They didn't get the

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email. Ed Tool with 46 -2. Hand of Doom, the

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Sabbath cover, and Anima. It's the first time

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that tool has been recorded live. Yeah. And I

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think it was 25 years, 30 years, something like

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that. Wow. So it was kind of a big deal. It was

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a huge deal. I I've never seen video of them

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playing live. Yeah. So it was kind of cool to,

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to see that. You had Slayer with Disciple, War

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Ensemble, Wicked World, Sabbath Song, South of

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Heaven, Raining Blood, and Angel of Death. From

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here, you had Guns N' Roses covering a bunch

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of Sabbath. They did It's Alright, which is a

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song that they would cover back in the day. Never

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Say Die. Junior's Eyes, which I haven't been

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able to see yet, which I absolutely love that

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song. So I'd love to hear their rendition of

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that. And then they did Sabbath, Bloody Sabbath.

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And then they played two of their own, Welcome

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to the Jungle and Paradise City. And then Metallica

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did Hole in the Sky, which is a song that Pantera

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covered back in the day. Creeping Death, For

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Whom the Bell Tolls, Johnny Blade, which I absolutely

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love as well. I think that those first three

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songs off of Never Say Die or Alt is great. And

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then they went into Battery and Master of Puppets.

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Then for Ozzy Osbourne. So he did I Don't Know.

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Mr. Crowley, Suicide Solution, Mama I'm Coming

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Home, and Crazy Train. Interesting with who he

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picked for the band. I mean, it's obvious that

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Zach would be there. I was hoping that maybe

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we would have seen Jake come out and do a song

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with Ozzy. Unfortunately, did not happen. He

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had Mike Inez of Alice in Chains, who was obviously

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in his band for quite a while as well. Yeah,

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bass tone. You sounded so good. Yeah, and then

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Tommy Cloufetis on drums there. No Ronald McDonald,

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though. No Ronald McDonald. No, no Ronald McDonald.

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You will have to dig back through some signals

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from Mars old episodes to see what I'm talking

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about. You will have to see that. That was my

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one and only Zoom interview. Then the original

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Sabbath comes out to do War Pigs, NIB, Iron Man,

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and Paranoid. Notable people that were missing.

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To me. Tommy Aldridge. Vinnie Appesee. Because

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he played with Sabbath. And then he also, he

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did also do some dates when Ozzy was in the band

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or when Ozzy had come back. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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When Bill Ward had some... Yeah, yeah, so they

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got him to cover. They got Vinny in because he

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was ready to go. You know, he knew all the songs.

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No Carmine. Yeah, Carmine should have been there.

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Other players that were... I was wondering if

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they would have brought Joe Holmes in. That would

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have been great. Because, I mean, he's... promoting

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new music, but he, you know, he may not have

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ended with the best of terms. Brad Gillis is

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another one that would have been interesting

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to see, you know, especially given he has a pass

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with Sammy Hagar as well. Doesn't he? No, I'm

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no, no, no, no, no, no. Nevermind. I was, I almost

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fumbled the ball there. I, for some reason I

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had in my mind that he was part of HSAS, but

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that was Neil Sean. So, yeah, to me, those are

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kind of the people that are connected with Ozzy

00:19:31.089 --> 00:19:34.710
that I'm surprised that didn't appear. Those

00:19:34.710 --> 00:19:39.789
are kind of the the only ones that I'm surprised

00:19:39.789 --> 00:19:43.710
didn't, you know, weren't part of the show. But,

00:19:43.789 --> 00:19:45.549
you know, there's one guy that should have been

00:19:45.549 --> 00:19:47.950
there, but you're not surprised he wasn't there.

00:19:48.029 --> 00:19:52.799
And that's Bob Daisley. Oh, yeah. Look at Ozzy's

00:19:52.799 --> 00:19:55.019
set list. Four of those songs, four of the five

00:19:55.019 --> 00:19:58.500
songs were written by Bob Daisley. Almost 100

00:19:58.500 --> 00:20:06.140
% the lyrics and some of the music. The thing

00:20:06.140 --> 00:20:11.119
with that, though, he's done so much over the

00:20:11.119 --> 00:20:15.599
years, whether right or wrong, that they weren't

00:20:15.599 --> 00:20:21.289
going to touch him with a 10 -foot pole. Um,

00:20:21.289 --> 00:20:23.769
the other thing too, is when this was announced,

00:20:23.849 --> 00:20:26.309
he right off the bat came out saying that he

00:20:26.309 --> 00:20:29.910
wanted nothing to do with it. Yeah. So at that

00:20:29.910 --> 00:20:33.170
point I knew we're not seeing Bob Daisley. Yeah.

00:20:34.029 --> 00:20:36.130
So, and I know that there are people that were,

00:20:36.170 --> 00:20:38.150
Oh, you know, he needs to be there and you brought

00:20:38.150 --> 00:20:46.109
it up and the, the, just, just to understand

00:20:46.109 --> 00:20:49.869
things. if Jake didn't end up playing with Ozzie,

00:20:49.990 --> 00:20:55.009
you weren't going to get Bob Daisley playing

00:20:55.009 --> 00:20:58.069
with Ozzie. I'm really surprised Jake was there,

00:20:58.210 --> 00:21:01.130
but I'm sure that had more to do with Tom Morello.

00:21:01.490 --> 00:21:05.390
Yeah. Yeah. But there's also, there's also pictures

00:21:05.390 --> 00:21:09.710
of Jake and Ozzie together. That's where, where

00:21:09.710 --> 00:21:14.390
Jake is sitting at Ozzie's feet and Ozzie has

00:21:14.390 --> 00:21:18.220
his hand on Jake and. and stuff like that. I

00:21:18.220 --> 00:21:20.680
don't think Ozzy ever had a problem with Jake.

00:21:21.640 --> 00:21:26.140
I think it was all, you know, somebody else who

00:21:26.140 --> 00:21:28.440
was really running this whole thing. But I mean,

00:21:28.460 --> 00:21:31.900
outside of that, I mean, there's so many stories

00:21:31.900 --> 00:21:33.839
that we've heard that whether Jake was really

00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:38.059
messed up on, on drugs or alcohol as well. And,

00:21:38.059 --> 00:21:40.359
you know, there were, there's, there, there's

00:21:40.359 --> 00:21:42.599
a bunch of things that could have taken place,

00:21:42.599 --> 00:21:46.640
you know? This is this is one of these stories

00:21:46.640 --> 00:21:49.039
where I don't think we'll ever get the full truth

00:21:49.039 --> 00:21:55.220
to it. And it's probably, you know, half of what

00:21:55.220 --> 00:21:57.059
one person has said and half of what another

00:21:57.059 --> 00:22:00.859
person has said. And I'm assuming that there

00:22:00.859 --> 00:22:04.000
was possibly a push to get money from Bark at

00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:05.839
the Moon. And there was probably a consistent

00:22:05.839 --> 00:22:10.059
nagging going on and probably to the point where

00:22:10.059 --> 00:22:13.059
they said, all right, well. You're fucked up.

00:22:13.079 --> 00:22:15.380
You keep bugging us about this. So it's time

00:22:15.380 --> 00:22:19.720
to go. Um, I've got an interesting hypothesis

00:22:19.720 --> 00:22:22.299
for Jake after this that I'm going to bring up.

00:22:22.660 --> 00:22:31.039
Okay. So, um, your thoughts on the bands, the

00:22:31.039 --> 00:22:38.420
good, the bad, the ugly. Yeah, so, well, I sat

00:22:38.420 --> 00:22:42.440
down at 3 o 'clock UK time and I sat there more

00:22:42.440 --> 00:22:45.059
or less all the time until 1 a .m. in the morning

00:22:45.059 --> 00:22:47.500
to watch this. So, you know, I saw the whole

00:22:47.500 --> 00:22:52.500
lot. And I must admit, I was interested in all

00:22:52.500 --> 00:22:56.200
of it. There weren't that many bands that I was

00:22:56.200 --> 00:23:00.700
really upset by. I enjoyed Mastodon to kick it

00:23:00.700 --> 00:23:02.539
off. I thought they were really good. I really

00:23:02.539 --> 00:23:05.920
enjoyed Rival Sons. As I mentioned, I enjoyed

00:23:05.920 --> 00:23:08.920
Hellstorm. I thought that Steven Tyler really

00:23:08.920 --> 00:23:11.640
stole the show. I was surprised how good he was

00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:15.660
because he's actually older than Ozzy. He's had

00:23:15.660 --> 00:23:18.940
throat problems, as we know, and Aerosmith have

00:23:18.940 --> 00:23:22.440
kind of split up, I guess. But there's something

00:23:22.440 --> 00:23:24.539
there, isn't there? It's almost like he's sort

00:23:24.539 --> 00:23:26.460
of saying, let's get the band together again,

00:23:26.519 --> 00:23:30.140
because he was absolutely fantastic. He was a

00:23:30.140 --> 00:23:34.019
proper showman. It's the best I've ever heard

00:23:34.019 --> 00:23:38.019
him sing live. Yeah. He was so damn good. And

00:23:38.019 --> 00:23:44.640
he looked every bit of rock star. He hit the

00:23:44.640 --> 00:23:48.069
stage and was like... What I've heard people

00:23:48.069 --> 00:23:55.170
say from his performance is that he'd probably

00:23:55.170 --> 00:23:58.910
be able to do like a residency where they're

00:23:58.910 --> 00:24:04.410
playing once a week for like two months, but

00:24:04.410 --> 00:24:07.049
no more touring. Like his voice just can't do

00:24:07.049 --> 00:24:10.289
the touring grind and that he sounded so fantastic

00:24:10.289 --> 00:24:15.430
because he hasn't. Played live in, well, he did

00:24:15.430 --> 00:24:21.170
a show like two months ago. But previous to that,

00:24:21.190 --> 00:24:25.109
he hadn't done anything in like a year. It's

00:24:25.109 --> 00:24:27.650
interesting because Joe Perry's got the Joe Perry

00:24:27.650 --> 00:24:30.309
project on tour at the moment. But I think that

00:24:30.309 --> 00:24:33.269
when all that's over, I would hazard a guess

00:24:33.269 --> 00:24:36.609
that Aerosmith will do something. And like you

00:24:36.609 --> 00:24:39.150
say, it won't be a full tour. It'll be, you know,

00:24:39.170 --> 00:24:42.579
the odd one or two massive gigs. because I just

00:24:42.579 --> 00:24:45.240
think he's ready for it again. So we'll see.

00:24:45.400 --> 00:24:48.559
I hope so because I'd like to see them. But anyway,

00:24:48.660 --> 00:24:54.640
so that was Stephen Tyler. Moving on, what else

00:24:54.640 --> 00:24:58.319
did I like? I actually liked Slayer. Slayer were

00:24:58.319 --> 00:25:01.380
a surprise to me because I'm not a massive Slayer

00:25:01.380 --> 00:25:04.279
fan, but they killed it. They were very good.

00:25:04.619 --> 00:25:07.559
As we know, Metallica always kill it, so I thought

00:25:07.559 --> 00:25:11.230
they were excellent. We'll move on to Ozzy and

00:25:11.230 --> 00:25:12.970
Black Sabbath probably a little bit later. We'll

00:25:12.970 --> 00:25:15.289
talk about them because it's all about them.

00:25:15.369 --> 00:25:17.869
I'll just talk about the other bands. Who didn't

00:25:17.869 --> 00:25:22.630
perform? I'm sorry to say Axl was terrible, really

00:25:22.630 --> 00:25:27.309
terrible. The band themselves were amazing. I

00:25:27.309 --> 00:25:29.730
mean, Guns N' Roses are a very tight band. They

00:25:29.730 --> 00:25:31.930
know they've played live now for a long time.

00:25:32.210 --> 00:25:35.529
Their music is fantastic. They've got great songs.

00:25:36.109 --> 00:25:39.150
Who's the new drummer? Victor, do you know him?

00:25:39.849 --> 00:25:43.509
Um, for guns and roses. Yeah. Who is that drumming?

00:25:43.690 --> 00:25:47.269
Ian, I forget his last name, but he's the drummer

00:25:47.269 --> 00:25:50.990
for, uh, Duff McKagan's loaded. Oh, he, he was

00:25:50.990 --> 00:25:54.170
really good. Really, really good. Yeah. They

00:25:54.170 --> 00:25:55.710
were stripped down, you know, they only had the,

00:25:55.750 --> 00:25:57.910
they didn't have the keyboard guys and all that

00:25:57.910 --> 00:26:02.069
other stuff. And, you know, yeah, yeah. I thought,

00:26:02.170 --> 00:26:05.019
I thought the band was excellent. Yeah, it's

00:26:05.019 --> 00:26:08.319
just Axel. Axel was terrible. I mean, he really

00:26:08.319 --> 00:26:11.119
needs to give it a rest now. It's a shame because,

00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:13.319
I mean, he doesn't even look like a rock star

00:26:13.319 --> 00:26:16.279
anymore. He's got his hair cut short and, you

00:26:16.279 --> 00:26:18.099
know, he just looks like a bit of a corporate

00:26:18.099 --> 00:26:20.279
guy who's come out from a marketing meeting.

00:26:21.319 --> 00:26:24.200
It's a shame because he's trying his best. You

00:26:24.200 --> 00:26:26.680
know, he is doing his best and he's there on

00:26:26.680 --> 00:26:30.420
time now, which is great to hear. But he can't

00:26:30.420 --> 00:26:35.000
sing. You know what he sounded like to me? You

00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:38.680
know those videos, Victor, that we share, the

00:26:38.680 --> 00:26:43.880
Todo Casa Bien stuff? It sounded like those guys

00:26:43.880 --> 00:26:47.660
did this video and they just overdubbed Axl's

00:26:47.660 --> 00:26:51.480
vocals with one of their goofy vocals. He hit

00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:55.900
every note. He was on key and everything and

00:26:55.900 --> 00:26:58.380
hitting every note, but he was just kind of singing

00:26:58.380 --> 00:27:04.609
like this. I thought, well, maybe he's just got

00:27:04.609 --> 00:27:06.289
to get loosened up a little bit. Maybe when he,

00:27:06.289 --> 00:27:08.089
when he hits, when he does one of their songs,

00:27:08.190 --> 00:27:10.950
then he'll bring it out. But no, it was, and

00:27:10.950 --> 00:27:13.150
who knows what's going on with him, but I give,

00:27:13.230 --> 00:27:15.970
I'm going to, you know, his voice. Yeah. It was

00:27:15.970 --> 00:27:21.549
not good. Not what you would expect. But I have,

00:27:21.569 --> 00:27:23.789
I'm going to, I'm going to go a little bit opposite

00:27:23.789 --> 00:27:26.309
of Jeremy on this and say that I, he, he came

00:27:26.309 --> 00:27:28.829
out. And he appeared to be giving it his all.

00:27:28.910 --> 00:27:34.230
He appeared to be having a good time. You know,

00:27:34.329 --> 00:27:40.190
he did it. And, yeah, I thought even with his

00:27:40.190 --> 00:27:44.329
really goofy voice, it was pretty damn cool.

00:27:44.410 --> 00:27:47.930
The songs they chose were just great. I love

00:27:47.930 --> 00:27:50.529
that they're going all these weird deep tracks

00:27:50.529 --> 00:27:53.650
from the albums that most people haven't even

00:27:53.650 --> 00:27:57.980
heard. By the way, there was another person who

00:27:57.980 --> 00:28:00.460
didn't sing very well on the day, and that was

00:28:00.460 --> 00:28:04.619
Papa V, really terrible at singing Black Sabbath

00:28:04.619 --> 00:28:08.259
songs. Even though he's great normally, I really

00:28:08.259 --> 00:28:12.000
didn't enjoy it at all. Yeah, there's a couple

00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:14.180
of things about him. Well, actually, a lot of

00:28:14.180 --> 00:28:19.339
people. One thing that this concert proved is

00:28:19.339 --> 00:28:22.400
that, say what you want about Ozzy, people will...

00:28:22.650 --> 00:28:24.650
say his vocal, he's not a very good singer, blah,

00:28:24.769 --> 00:28:29.029
blah, blah. Uh, try to sing one of his songs.

00:28:29.349 --> 00:28:32.390
Yeah. It's not easy. It's really not easy to

00:28:32.390 --> 00:28:34.730
sing it well and sound good. There's, there's

00:28:34.730 --> 00:28:36.369
only a couple of people I think that covered

00:28:36.369 --> 00:28:39.250
one of these songs and vocally sounded great.

00:28:39.690 --> 00:28:44.009
One of them was Jay, um, um, rival sons, that

00:28:44.009 --> 00:28:48.059
dude, holy crap. Yeah. Yeah. He was, he was the

00:28:48.059 --> 00:28:49.859
real deal. And he sang the crap out of electric

00:28:49.859 --> 00:28:55.619
funeral. He was so, so good. And the other, which

00:28:55.619 --> 00:28:58.720
was a huge, just a huge surprise. Cause when

00:28:58.720 --> 00:29:00.400
he walked out on stage, I was prepared to just

00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:02.700
start throwing stuff. Like I think a lot of people

00:29:02.700 --> 00:29:05.420
work, you know what I'm talking about? Youngblood

00:29:05.420 --> 00:29:09.059
that dude, I think he's, he like had a moment

00:29:09.059 --> 00:29:11.839
that whole concert. It's like for one moment,

00:29:11.900 --> 00:29:13.960
everything, everything just kind of stopped.

00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:17.099
and focused on him singing that song. He's, I

00:29:17.099 --> 00:29:18.660
don't really care about changes. It's one that

00:29:18.660 --> 00:29:20.720
I never put on any of my tapes when I, you know,

00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:23.640
I had only sets of Sabbath. It's a song I would

00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:27.359
skip. Uh, it's just like, eh, it's just not a,

00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:31.240
yeah, it's not a great song, but I loved him

00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:33.869
singing that song. And he put, he just. He just

00:29:33.869 --> 00:29:36.089
drew the whole crowd in. He got up there and

00:29:36.089 --> 00:29:38.630
everybody just got on board right away. He just

00:29:38.630 --> 00:29:41.630
had that natural charisma. So I'm going to give

00:29:41.630 --> 00:29:43.329
bonus points to that guy. I liked it so much

00:29:43.329 --> 00:29:44.869
I actually went and listened to his new album,

00:29:44.990 --> 00:29:46.809
which I'm going to say is actually pretty good.

00:29:46.869 --> 00:29:49.690
So you guys should listen to it as well and form

00:29:49.690 --> 00:29:51.890
your own opinions. Maybe the guy's not such a

00:29:51.890 --> 00:29:56.190
wanker after all. I agree with you on both of

00:29:56.190 --> 00:29:59.789
those singers, by the way. You're spot on. Yes.

00:29:59.990 --> 00:30:01.829
Let's go back. Let's go back to Papa though.

00:30:01.930 --> 00:30:07.569
He comes out and he's like, Hey, you go to buy

00:30:07.569 --> 00:30:11.710
it for me. And the crowd was just kind of crickets,

00:30:11.710 --> 00:30:17.089
just crickets. And I mean, I'm not going to say

00:30:17.089 --> 00:30:19.289
he's a great singer, but he's, he's a good singer.

00:30:19.369 --> 00:30:22.269
I mean, he knows how to sing, but it was, he

00:30:22.269 --> 00:30:25.029
wasn't awfully, just wasn't good. And there was.

00:30:25.960 --> 00:30:29.240
He was in a lot of people that sang those songs.

00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:32.779
Look at Sammy Hagar singing, what, Flying High

00:30:32.779 --> 00:30:36.559
again, and then singing Rock Candy. It was night

00:30:36.559 --> 00:30:39.519
and day. I mean, he really struggled on Flying

00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:41.740
High. You got to wonder about things like, you

00:30:41.740 --> 00:30:43.640
know, how well did he really know the song? Did

00:30:43.640 --> 00:30:45.420
he know the lyrics that well? Did they, I don't

00:30:45.420 --> 00:30:47.000
know if they had a teleprompter or whatever they

00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:50.019
were doing. But yeah, he killed Rock Candy. He'd

00:30:50.019 --> 00:30:53.059
sing his ass off on that. So it's not that he

00:30:53.059 --> 00:30:55.740
couldn't sing. It's just. I'm going to say right

00:30:55.740 --> 00:30:58.539
now, it's just really difficult to sing Ozzy

00:30:58.539 --> 00:31:01.579
songs and make them sound well. Yeah, that makes

00:31:01.579 --> 00:31:06.339
sense. The other thing is in terms of the guitarists,

00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:09.819
there were two. Obviously, he's got Zach Wild,

00:31:09.980 --> 00:31:13.339
who played a blinder. He was amazing. Jake Ely,

00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:15.900
I wasn't fussed with. I don't know whether his

00:31:15.900 --> 00:31:18.779
guitar wasn't just turned up enough for me. I

00:31:18.779 --> 00:31:21.420
didn't like the sound that was coming from his

00:31:21.420 --> 00:31:25.420
guitar. I didn't think he's... I don't know.

00:31:25.460 --> 00:31:28.400
It just, it didn't resonate with me. So, you

00:31:28.400 --> 00:31:32.880
know, Zach over, over Jake Healy any day. I hear

00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:34.839
that Jake's having some problems with arthritis.

00:31:35.339 --> 00:31:39.119
Okay. He said he couldn't play a bark at the

00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:41.460
moon. He refused to do it. He says, I can't,

00:31:41.460 --> 00:31:47.579
I can't do it. I can't. Right. Yeah. He sounded

00:31:47.579 --> 00:31:51.950
like he hadn't been playing much recently. A

00:31:51.950 --> 00:31:54.190
lot of people were like, oh, Jakey Lee was so

00:31:54.190 --> 00:31:56.670
great. I'm like, were you listening or just watching?

00:31:56.950 --> 00:31:59.589
Yeah. You guys didn't know what you were experiencing,

00:31:59.890 --> 00:32:03.589
but yeah, Jeremy is 100 % right. Jakey Lee was

00:32:03.589 --> 00:32:07.569
just kind of, he was a little off. Nuno played

00:32:07.569 --> 00:32:13.470
the solo to The Ultimate Sin. Yeah. Nuno was,

00:32:13.650 --> 00:32:18.190
he was beyond on point, man. He was so damn good.

00:32:18.569 --> 00:32:21.569
But he's amazing. He's just an amazing guy, isn't

00:32:21.569 --> 00:32:24.549
he? I want, I want to play. I want, I want him

00:32:24.549 --> 00:32:27.970
in my band and I want Chad Smith. I think about

00:32:27.970 --> 00:32:31.170
all the drummers. Chad Smith was just that, that

00:32:31.170 --> 00:32:34.049
dude, that dude kills man on the drums. He just,

00:32:34.130 --> 00:32:37.130
he just grooves. He played, he, he like makes

00:32:37.130 --> 00:32:40.130
everything sound better when he plays. And the

00:32:40.130 --> 00:32:42.089
same thing with Nuno, you get Nuno and Chad Smith.

00:32:42.210 --> 00:32:44.230
And, and then of course me and the band would

00:32:44.230 --> 00:32:47.049
kind of bring it down a bit, but I'd give it

00:32:47.049 --> 00:32:50.309
a shot. I'd love to play with those guys. Yeah,

00:32:50.309 --> 00:32:52.650
Nuno to me, out of all the footage that I've

00:32:52.650 --> 00:32:57.569
seen, to me was kind of the MVP because he nailed

00:32:57.569 --> 00:33:02.529
everything. And as I'm watching these videos,

00:33:02.670 --> 00:33:06.730
I'm thinking back to people slagging on Nuno

00:33:06.730 --> 00:33:10.789
for playing with Rihanna and this and that. And

00:33:10.789 --> 00:33:16.049
I'm thinking about a recent, or maybe not that

00:33:16.049 --> 00:33:19.160
recent, but he was speaking to Rich Beato. saying

00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:23.480
how more than words was, was kind of a curse

00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:26.000
for them because they were just known all of

00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:30.259
a sudden for, for playing acoustic songs. And

00:33:30.259 --> 00:33:35.240
man, we, we know that that first single that

00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:37.920
came off, that came out off of that last album

00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:41.460
off of six, where it was like Nuno saying, okay,

00:33:41.700 --> 00:33:47.460
Eddie's gone. I'm now the king of the hill. And

00:33:47.460 --> 00:33:51.579
he just came out, plays a solo that just puts

00:33:51.579 --> 00:33:57.720
more or less every solo that's come out for the

00:33:57.720 --> 00:34:02.880
last 30 years to shame. It's just ridiculous

00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:05.500
how good he is. And it's funny because there

00:34:05.500 --> 00:34:08.500
was a point in time where I don't think you would

00:34:08.500 --> 00:34:10.760
have ever imagined Nuno playing with guys from

00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:15.679
Anthrax or with other stuff like that. And they

00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:19.199
had actually done stuff for HBO on Game of Thrones

00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:22.320
where they had played some stuff together where

00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:25.719
it was him, Scott Ian and Tom Morello. So that

00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:31.179
probably facilitated all of that. But Nuno was

00:34:31.179 --> 00:34:34.619
amazing. I mean, I haven't seen all I haven't

00:34:34.619 --> 00:34:38.780
seen. Well, I haven't seen Shot in the Dark because

00:34:38.780 --> 00:34:46.869
I've never liked that song. That was David Draymond.

00:34:46.989 --> 00:34:51.630
Yeah. David Draymond is again, more proof that

00:34:51.630 --> 00:34:55.409
singing Ozzy isn't that easy. When David Draymond

00:34:55.409 --> 00:34:58.389
walked on stage, I felt like, Oh, my Uber driver's

00:34:58.389 --> 00:35:05.730
here. And he, he didn't exactly bring the crowd

00:35:05.730 --> 00:35:08.550
in, you know what I mean? It wasn't, it was tough,

00:35:08.769 --> 00:35:11.550
tough crowd. Yeah. Well, the other thing too,

00:35:13.780 --> 00:35:16.340
Anthony mentioned it. There's, you know, he's

00:35:16.340 --> 00:35:20.639
very outspoken in the political reign and, and,

00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:22.900
you know, there's a lot of people that aren't

00:35:22.900 --> 00:35:27.880
on his side at the moment. So good, bad, or indifferent,

00:35:28.139 --> 00:35:31.960
you know, unfortunately, you know, I'm, I have

00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:36.199
no issue with bands stating their political point

00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:41.019
of views, but I think he's, outspoken to the

00:35:41.019 --> 00:35:44.960
point where he's almost beating a dead horse.

00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:48.380
It works continuous. You know, you, you can have

00:35:48.380 --> 00:35:50.619
Gene Simmons kind of saying the same message,

00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:54.300
but it isn't every single interview. It isn't

00:35:54.300 --> 00:36:00.059
every single post. It isn't. So, no, well, he

00:36:00.059 --> 00:36:01.800
didn't bring it on. He didn't bring any of that

00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:03.960
on stage with him. And I'm cool. I'm cool with

00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:08.179
that. I, I, uh, Yeah, he just got up and sang,

00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:11.039
didn't he? Yeah, he was. He didn't say anything.

00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:15.840
He just sang the songs. And he's a good singer,

00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:19.920
but it didn't work. It didn't quite work for

00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:22.880
me either. Yeah. But that's the way it is. They

00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:26.199
gave him two songs. Yeah. Two songs. Yeah, yeah.

00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:29.269
But, you know, it was. It was an interesting

00:36:29.269 --> 00:36:32.510
mix all day, really. And, you know, I was expecting

00:36:32.510 --> 00:36:35.250
that. I think I was expecting it to be a mixed

00:36:35.250 --> 00:36:37.610
day. You know, I knew that not everybody was

00:36:37.610 --> 00:36:40.329
going to get the Black Sabbath songs. I knew

00:36:40.329 --> 00:36:42.250
that you wouldn't like every single band. It's

00:36:42.250 --> 00:36:44.329
a bit like Live Aid where, you know, you watch

00:36:44.329 --> 00:36:46.869
that and, you know, you watch some of your favorites

00:36:46.869 --> 00:36:51.769
and then you... Jeremy, tell us what you thought

00:36:51.769 --> 00:36:55.989
about Billy Corgan. What did I think about Billy

00:36:55.989 --> 00:36:58.809
Corgan? Yeah. I haven't got any strong views

00:36:58.809 --> 00:37:03.210
on Billy Corgan. Why? I thought his singing was,

00:37:03.289 --> 00:37:05.550
he shouldn't sing Judas Priest and he shouldn't

00:37:05.550 --> 00:37:10.389
sing Black Sabbath. They're two of his favorite

00:37:10.389 --> 00:37:13.829
bands. I know, but there's a lot of, I mean,

00:37:13.829 --> 00:37:15.449
there's a lot of bands. I like Billy Sheehan,

00:37:15.530 --> 00:37:17.750
but I shouldn't try to play his stuff. Yeah,

00:37:17.750 --> 00:37:21.389
yeah. But it just falls into the category of

00:37:21.389 --> 00:37:23.489
what you were saying, which is that, you know,

00:37:23.510 --> 00:37:26.809
it's very hard to sing these songs. And, you

00:37:26.809 --> 00:37:29.489
know, only one person really sings them, and

00:37:29.489 --> 00:37:33.349
that's Ozzy. And, you know, we'll get onto that

00:37:33.349 --> 00:37:38.210
in a minute, how good Ozzy was, really. The best

00:37:38.210 --> 00:37:44.710
thing Billy did was his wardrobe choice. I got

00:37:44.710 --> 00:37:47.230
to give him credit for that. Well done, Billy.

00:37:49.429 --> 00:37:55.010
I haven't seen it. So just think, just close

00:37:55.010 --> 00:37:57.210
your eyes and think of Uncle Fester. Okay. And

00:37:57.210 --> 00:38:01.559
then let it go. You got to remember all, all

00:38:01.559 --> 00:38:03.579
of these bands were giving up their time free

00:38:03.579 --> 00:38:07.320
of charge. It was all for charity. And generally

00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:09.760
I thought it worked, you know, I thought the

00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:12.840
way they put it together. None of it was awful.

00:38:12.980 --> 00:38:17.659
And I'm just, I'm just, you know, yeah. Yeah.

00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:21.179
You got to say, but you've got to have some talking

00:38:21.179 --> 00:38:23.679
points. And even if it's something's bad, at

00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:25.579
least you've got a talking point. And that's

00:38:25.579 --> 00:38:28.510
always a good thing as well. Yeah, I don't think

00:38:28.510 --> 00:38:30.130
anybody should have been booed. I don't think

00:38:30.130 --> 00:38:32.309
anybody should have been, you know, roasted.

00:38:32.909 --> 00:38:38.289
Well, this is just good, good natured critiquing.

00:38:38.289 --> 00:38:41.670
Let's put it that way. Yeah. What band do you

00:38:41.670 --> 00:38:46.590
guys think got booted from the... Oh, that's

00:38:46.590 --> 00:38:50.730
a good question. Well, I know several that probably

00:38:50.730 --> 00:38:53.250
weren't. I'm trying to think, really. It's very

00:38:53.250 --> 00:38:56.150
difficult to think because it could be literally

00:38:56.150 --> 00:39:02.840
any band. Do you think Gene Simmons was invited?

00:39:03.840 --> 00:39:08.760
Well, no. No? Definitely not? No, no, no, no.

00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:14.039
There was nobody from KISS invited to this because

00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:20.559
there's always been whether they want to admit

00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:27.860
it or not. I mean, Sabbath opened for KISS. Yeah.

00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:33.340
Yeah. Yeah. They have. Okay. And they opened

00:39:33.340 --> 00:39:35.519
for Boston. I refused to go to that concert.

00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:38.579
Yeah. How could black Sabbath open for Boston?

00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:41.559
What the kind of bizarre world are we living

00:39:41.559 --> 00:39:47.880
in? It was more than a feeling. Um, Kansas. Yeah.

00:39:48.260 --> 00:39:52.519
But, and, and I've heard Ozzy say stuff about

00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:55.760
over the years of, Kiss thinking that they invented

00:39:55.760 --> 00:40:00.980
everything and that, um, and that, you know,

00:40:01.019 --> 00:40:03.099
kiss thinking that they're the greatest and blah,

00:40:03.199 --> 00:40:07.400
blah, blah. And, and, and him saying something

00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:09.619
to the extent of, well, they can kiss my ass.

00:40:10.260 --> 00:40:15.599
Um, I mean, I, I, I think that there's, there's,

00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:19.019
there's probably some jealousy there. There's

00:40:19.019 --> 00:40:23.739
probably something about. You know, because Kiss

00:40:23.739 --> 00:40:26.719
came along when Sabbath was kind of taking a

00:40:26.719 --> 00:40:30.000
downturn and they kind of ran with the mantle

00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:34.500
there for a little bit. They were direct competition

00:40:34.500 --> 00:40:37.739
for them in the 70s. You know, as Kiss was coming

00:40:37.739 --> 00:40:44.019
up, Sabbath was, you know, on technical ecstasy

00:40:44.019 --> 00:40:48.260
and never say die. They weren't exactly, you

00:40:48.260 --> 00:40:52.440
know, barn burners. um with the albums or with

00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:57.500
the tours so and that's when you know destroyer

00:40:57.500 --> 00:41:00.619
um rock and roll over and love gun were coming

00:41:00.619 --> 00:41:05.880
out and you know we we still get back to the

00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:11.059
point of uh people in in the uk having an issue

00:41:11.059 --> 00:41:14.960
with because of the makeup and all the theatrics,

00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:17.199
and now all of a sudden there's no issue with

00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:20.539
Sleep Token or President or any of these British

00:41:20.539 --> 00:41:25.519
bands that are doing the same thing. What we

00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:28.460
do know is it's a band and not an individual,

00:41:28.699 --> 00:41:31.920
don't we? So that's what was said. It's a band

00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:35.480
that got kicked off. Yeah, yeah, a band got kicked

00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:37.420
off. Yeah, because I was thinking it might be

00:41:37.420 --> 00:41:39.599
somebody like Dave Lee Roth, but obviously he's

00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:41.840
on his own, and I don't think he'd be on that.

00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:44.480
It's more of a metal. It's going to be more metal

00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:49.079
-y. But Sharon has denied that it was Megadeth.

00:41:50.099 --> 00:41:53.039
Well, Kelly Osbourne said it wasn't Megadeth.

00:41:53.179 --> 00:41:57.760
Okay, okay. So let's say it wasn't that. Sharon

00:41:57.760 --> 00:42:03.159
was asked if it was Iron Maiden. Yeah. And Iron

00:42:03.159 --> 00:42:05.579
Maiden was playing in Madrid, Spain at the time.

00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:10.559
Yeah. It wasn't them. We know it's not Judas

00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:14.239
Priest because they did a little video of Best

00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:17.260
Wishes. And again, they're on tour, so they couldn't

00:42:17.260 --> 00:42:20.019
come. Yep. They had announced that they were

00:42:20.019 --> 00:42:22.880
playing with Scorpions on their 60th anniversary

00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:26.800
show in Hanover, Germany, and those tickets were

00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:30.539
released. In April, and apparently they had asked

00:42:30.539 --> 00:42:32.099
if there was any way that they could get out

00:42:32.099 --> 00:42:35.179
of it or if scorpions could change the date to

00:42:35.179 --> 00:42:38.519
another day. And there was no way of doing that.

00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:45.340
Priests should have been there. And they would

00:42:45.340 --> 00:42:50.260
have been awesome. ACDC is another one where

00:42:50.260 --> 00:42:55.199
they tried to get Angus, but again, due to commitments,

00:42:55.300 --> 00:43:03.679
he couldn't make it. The one word is Soundgarden,

00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:07.980
but that doesn't make sense to me because they're

00:43:07.980 --> 00:43:13.239
not a touring entity right now. That isn't a

00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:16.860
band. I mean, you could have, could Kim Thayil

00:43:16.860 --> 00:43:22.320
have played? Possibly. The one that keeps kind

00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:28.079
of coming back around to me. Which to me was

00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:31.199
kind of shocking that not a single member of

00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:33.679
this band was there. Even if there are issues

00:43:33.679 --> 00:43:35.940
with their lead singer having health issues.

00:43:37.260 --> 00:43:40.599
Motley Crue. Why wasn't Tommy Lee or Nikki Sixx

00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:48.579
there? Because they've been tied to Ozzy since

00:43:48.579 --> 00:43:52.039
the 80s. He's quote unquote the guy that gave

00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:56.940
them their biggest, you know. a platform before

00:43:56.940 --> 00:44:02.380
they took off. Yeah. Maybe, maybe them. Yeah.

00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:07.519
Because who, who else that's out there? That's

00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:11.699
kind of a big deal. That would have been, that

00:44:11.699 --> 00:44:17.119
would have been asked to, to be there. You know,

00:44:17.139 --> 00:44:20.099
I'm kind of surprised like Joe Elliott wasn't

00:44:20.099 --> 00:44:22.619
there. Cause he, he's always in on all this stuff.

00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:26.730
He's, he's a huge fan. of all this stuff. And

00:44:26.730 --> 00:44:29.429
he gets involved in all of these things, but

00:44:29.429 --> 00:44:33.130
he doesn't like being pigeonholed into the whole

00:44:33.130 --> 00:44:38.030
metal thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. So,

00:44:38.110 --> 00:44:39.989
so, so what are you, what are you going to have?

00:44:40.030 --> 00:44:42.610
You're going to force him to come out and do

00:44:42.610 --> 00:44:45.269
another hit and run or something like that. Or

00:44:45.269 --> 00:44:47.750
that's, that's going to actually go over with

00:44:47.750 --> 00:44:50.489
that crowd. Is he going to come out and want

00:44:50.489 --> 00:44:55.579
to do hysteria or. two steps behind or, or, or

00:44:55.579 --> 00:44:58.760
something off of, uh, you know, their new album.

00:44:59.219 --> 00:45:06.719
You can do it. Yeah. But was, was, I mean, let's,

00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:09.420
let's be honest to any, you know, live aid. Yes.

00:45:09.579 --> 00:45:12.559
All the young, all the young dudes was done and,

00:45:12.599 --> 00:45:17.579
and, and so on and so forth. But would that have

00:45:17.579 --> 00:45:20.059
fit in? Would, would them covering Bowie at this

00:45:20.059 --> 00:45:25.409
made sense? No, but did Train Kept a Rollin'

00:45:25.409 --> 00:45:28.429
make sense? But I guess it was actually a song

00:45:28.429 --> 00:45:32.429
that he'd recorded. Yeah, but I mean, to get

00:45:32.429 --> 00:45:34.789
a Rolling Stone on stage, I mean, that's where

00:45:34.789 --> 00:45:39.050
Angus Young would have fit. You know, could you

00:45:39.050 --> 00:45:42.349
imagine Angus Young, Ron Wood, and Steven Tyler

00:45:42.349 --> 00:45:45.969
in track? Yeah, that would have been awesome.

00:45:47.710 --> 00:45:52.989
Yeah. I wonder if we'll ever find out who got

00:45:52.989 --> 00:45:56.369
kicked off. Well, Sharon said that she was going

00:45:56.369 --> 00:45:59.949
to tell us once it's all over. Once it's all

00:45:59.949 --> 00:46:05.590
over. But here's the thing. All right. So plausibility

00:46:05.590 --> 00:46:10.530
of this coming out on DVD, because we're talking

00:46:10.530 --> 00:46:17.349
about certain sets not being very good. So right

00:46:17.349 --> 00:46:21.800
off the bat, this was what, 10 hours? Yeah. Right

00:46:21.800 --> 00:46:24.679
off the bat, would they release all 10 hours?

00:46:25.539 --> 00:46:28.400
Well, it wasn't 10 hours of performance. There's

00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:32.880
a lot of breaks. I don't think it's going to

00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:36.599
come out because of getting all the legal stuff,

00:46:36.780 --> 00:46:40.239
everybody checked off, every band, every person

00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:43.519
that performed, getting all those people to sign

00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:46.139
off, their lawyers to sign off on it and stuff.

00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:48.219
That's going to be really, really difficult.

00:46:48.400 --> 00:46:52.989
And then you talk about Tool. Never been presented

00:46:52.989 --> 00:46:56.710
in a video thing. They might be like, you know

00:46:56.710 --> 00:46:58.769
what? Yeah, we don't want to be on a DVD. We

00:46:58.769 --> 00:47:01.670
like to keep our mystique and we didn't mind

00:47:01.670 --> 00:47:06.889
doing it and having it be gone. I think it's

00:47:06.889 --> 00:47:10.050
going to be a hard thing to put out on DVD. That's

00:47:10.050 --> 00:47:13.150
my opinion. I'll give you an alternative opinion

00:47:13.150 --> 00:47:16.150
because I think it will definitely come out on

00:47:16.150 --> 00:47:18.860
DVD. And the reason why I think that is because

00:47:18.860 --> 00:47:21.260
they had already recorded all those snippets

00:47:21.260 --> 00:47:24.820
for in between. And I think that those are going

00:47:24.820 --> 00:47:28.340
to be on the DVD as well. I think the plan was

00:47:28.340 --> 00:47:31.219
to always make money out of it. It wasn't to

00:47:31.219 --> 00:47:33.039
make profit out of it. It's to make more money

00:47:33.039 --> 00:47:36.500
for the charities. And I think that there's no

00:47:36.500 --> 00:47:38.719
reason why they couldn't do it because I think

00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:41.980
they would have signed up at the outset to say

00:47:41.980 --> 00:47:45.000
that they were happy to have it on the DVD. And

00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:48.500
I think it will be edited and I'd be quite surprised

00:47:48.500 --> 00:47:52.230
if it wasn't. That's my aim. Just, just my opinion.

00:47:52.650 --> 00:47:59.130
Okay. Um, we didn't, we didn't talk about the

00:47:59.130 --> 00:48:03.010
Aussie and the Sabbath set list. No, no. Just

00:48:03.010 --> 00:48:09.730
to talk about. Go ahead. Who are they? Okay.

00:48:09.929 --> 00:48:11.809
Well, one thing that was super cool about this

00:48:11.809 --> 00:48:15.030
show is number one, my brother's watching it

00:48:15.030 --> 00:48:18.380
in Connecticut. I'm in Idaho. And we're back

00:48:18.380 --> 00:48:21.500
and forth. He's calling me. We're texting, all

00:48:21.500 --> 00:48:24.079
this stuff. And then I got people in the Signals

00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:27.420
from Mars chat group that were watching, especially

00:48:27.420 --> 00:48:30.800
Jeremy. And it was kind of cool bouncing things

00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:33.480
back and forth, giving live opinions of what's

00:48:33.480 --> 00:48:36.960
going on. It was a cool shared experience that

00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:40.019
way. But the funniest thing was right before

00:48:40.019 --> 00:48:43.340
Ozzy comes on, Jeremy sends out a message. I

00:48:43.340 --> 00:48:45.480
know, guys, it's really late and I'm tired. I'm

00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:52.070
going to go to bed now. Yeah. Yeah. I thought

00:48:52.070 --> 00:48:53.829
that, I thought that was completely brilliant.

00:48:53.929 --> 00:48:57.210
And I, I kept thinking, man, I'm so glad I didn't

00:48:57.210 --> 00:48:58.989
go to this thing. Can you imagine trying to stand

00:48:58.989 --> 00:49:04.150
there for that long? I'm a geezer, man. I'd be

00:49:04.150 --> 00:49:06.409
like, after the first three bands, I'd be like,

00:49:06.469 --> 00:49:12.480
I got to sit down. Yeah. Yeah. But, I mean, the

00:49:12.480 --> 00:49:15.699
Ozzy show was really good. I mean, Zach Wild

00:49:15.699 --> 00:49:18.619
performed really well for it. I thought it was

00:49:18.619 --> 00:49:20.820
amazing. Ozzy, obviously, we knew he was going

00:49:20.820 --> 00:49:24.880
to sit down. I wasn't expecting five songs. It

00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:27.420
was heavily influenced on the first album, as

00:49:27.420 --> 00:49:30.039
we know. Four of the tracks were off the debut

00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:33.000
album that he did, which was great because it

00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:36.019
was such a great album. He did the ones that

00:49:36.019 --> 00:49:38.420
he's comfortable doing. I thought his voice sounded

00:49:38.420 --> 00:49:41.420
amazing. Obviously, we know that he's got Parkinson's

00:49:41.420 --> 00:49:44.920
disease, so he's shaking a little bit. But he

00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:48.820
practiced and he got it all together. And it

00:49:48.820 --> 00:49:52.320
was as good as, if not better than I was expecting.

00:49:53.420 --> 00:49:55.940
Definitely better than I expected. Yeah, there

00:49:55.940 --> 00:49:59.179
you go. Yeah, so really enjoyed that. And then

00:49:59.179 --> 00:50:01.099
Black Sabbath themselves, he came out and he

00:50:01.099 --> 00:50:03.760
obviously done his own stuff first, so he was

00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:06.840
a little bit more relaxed. And they did their

00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:09.599
four songs that we kind of... imagine they were

00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:11.840
going to do particularly paranoid and iron man

00:50:11.840 --> 00:50:14.960
uh and not iron man you said iron man i think

00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:19.559
brad but i was said war pigs yeah uh and they

00:50:19.559 --> 00:50:21.760
they were great i mean the other thing about

00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:24.059
it was it wasn't all about aussie i mean it was

00:50:24.059 --> 00:50:26.900
bill ward i mean you know bill bill was back

00:50:26.900 --> 00:50:29.980
in the band and that was an amazing moment as

00:50:29.980 --> 00:50:33.619
well which is kind of overlooked really um you

00:50:33.619 --> 00:50:36.539
know everything's about It's all about Ozzy joining

00:50:36.539 --> 00:50:38.840
the band and Black Sabbath coming back. But nobody

00:50:38.840 --> 00:50:41.900
really mentioned Bill a lot. I think he did a

00:50:41.900 --> 00:50:45.059
good job. You know, he's not played for a long

00:50:45.059 --> 00:50:49.820
time. They're all old guys now. And it was amazing.

00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:53.440
So, Jeremy, the big hot point on Bill is him

00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:56.519
taking his shirt off. Yeah. Are you okay with

00:50:56.519 --> 00:51:01.360
that? Well, I was okay. Tony said he looked like

00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:06.829
Gollum. I've seen a lot of old guys with their

00:51:06.829 --> 00:51:10.090
shirts off in a field somewhere sipping a beer.

00:51:11.130 --> 00:51:13.829
I mean, he didn't really have the body to take

00:51:13.829 --> 00:51:16.750
off a shirt, but hey, it's Bill Ward, so he can

00:51:16.750 --> 00:51:23.250
do what the hell he likes. That's right. I want

00:51:23.250 --> 00:51:26.070
to just say this. I thought this is the way Sabbath

00:51:26.070 --> 00:51:28.849
should end with the four original guys playing

00:51:28.849 --> 00:51:32.260
together. Yeah. I never felt good about the way

00:51:32.260 --> 00:51:36.619
they previously had ended it with another drummer.

00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:39.760
It was Black Sabbath, but it wasn't Black Sabbath.

00:51:40.079 --> 00:51:42.300
This was Black Sabbath. This is the real deal,

00:51:42.360 --> 00:51:47.860
all four guys. It was incredible. It was just

00:51:47.860 --> 00:51:53.159
very emotional. I got to hand it to all the people

00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:55.360
who were there at the show. There were a lot

00:51:55.360 --> 00:51:57.739
of young people there. You know, as they panned

00:51:57.739 --> 00:52:00.980
out and they all stayed and they all brought

00:52:00.980 --> 00:52:03.579
it. When Ozzy was on, everybody was just up for

00:52:03.579 --> 00:52:06.579
it. When Sabbath came on, everybody was up for

00:52:06.579 --> 00:52:09.920
it. And you could just, I mean, great audience.

00:52:10.099 --> 00:52:12.219
So well done all you people who went to this

00:52:12.219 --> 00:52:18.239
thing. And yeah, it was a great show. It was

00:52:18.239 --> 00:52:22.659
well worth more than I paid for it. Sorry, Sharon,

00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:27.239
don't send me a bill. Yeah, yeah. The interesting

00:52:27.239 --> 00:52:30.159
thing is that Ozzy did five songs and Black Sabbath

00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:32.960
only did four. And it was weird because I imagine

00:52:32.960 --> 00:52:35.940
that Ozzy could only actually sing a couple of

00:52:35.940 --> 00:52:38.579
songs because we know how ill he's been. But

00:52:38.579 --> 00:52:42.239
actually, he was okay singing once he sat down.

00:52:42.539 --> 00:52:46.579
And I heard later that Tony Iommi had said that

00:52:46.579 --> 00:52:49.380
they should have done maybe some more. He wanted

00:52:49.380 --> 00:52:54.349
to do some more with the Black Sabbath set. Yeah,

00:52:54.349 --> 00:52:59.769
that would have that. Yeah. I mean, even though

00:52:59.769 --> 00:53:03.530
I think for us, it was more about Black Sabbath.

00:53:03.550 --> 00:53:06.010
But the person who was putting this whole thing

00:53:06.010 --> 00:53:09.250
on, it was more about Ozzie. And in a way, it

00:53:09.250 --> 00:53:12.309
is because Ozzie is the one who's really, you

00:53:12.309 --> 00:53:14.150
know, not going to be able to keep doing this.

00:53:14.590 --> 00:53:18.070
I mean, Tony Gieser, if he wanted to, they could

00:53:18.070 --> 00:53:20.809
keep playing Bill. So I suppose Bill has two

00:53:20.809 --> 00:53:24.469
new albums coming out that he's done. They had

00:53:24.469 --> 00:53:27.889
reservations a long time ago about Bill doing

00:53:27.889 --> 00:53:30.309
a lot of songs, didn't they? So maybe it was

00:53:30.309 --> 00:53:32.230
Bill and Ozzy together and they thought, you

00:53:32.230 --> 00:53:34.510
know, if we do more than four, we're pushing

00:53:34.510 --> 00:53:37.210
it. And they probably thought that's enough.

00:53:38.590 --> 00:53:41.670
Yeah, that's a fair point. There was probably

00:53:41.670 --> 00:53:46.170
some discussion in there, but I want to hear

00:53:46.170 --> 00:53:48.150
from Bill. Bill, how did you feel, man? Could

00:53:48.150 --> 00:53:51.139
you have kept playing? It's not like you got

00:53:51.139 --> 00:53:54.360
to play tennis tomorrow or something. Yeah. Well,

00:53:54.460 --> 00:53:57.500
the other thing to consider as well, as we mentioned

00:53:57.500 --> 00:54:02.059
with the Anthrax set, the Sabbath songs aren't

00:54:02.059 --> 00:54:04.760
short. War Pigs is how long? Six, seven minutes

00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:10.099
long. NID is up there as well. Iron Man is, I

00:54:10.099 --> 00:54:12.099
mean, Paranoid is the only one that's three minutes

00:54:12.099 --> 00:54:16.139
long. The Ozzy songs are all short. Yeah. Really

00:54:16.139 --> 00:54:21.599
think about it. Yeah. So that's... Yeah, Warclays

00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:25.480
is like almost eight minutes long. Yeah, so that's

00:54:25.480 --> 00:54:28.780
the reason why they only did four. It probably

00:54:28.780 --> 00:54:34.039
played most of the same amount of time, but it

00:54:34.039 --> 00:54:40.019
was more songs for one than the other. So now

00:54:40.019 --> 00:54:46.659
let's bring up... We've seen this. We also know

00:54:46.659 --> 00:54:50.840
what Rush did, for example. And for the longest

00:54:50.840 --> 00:54:52.519
time, people were saying, well, that's the way

00:54:52.519 --> 00:54:54.960
to go out. Before you overstay your welcome.

00:54:55.940 --> 00:54:59.079
There's nobody saying, well, yeah, you have some

00:54:59.079 --> 00:55:00.940
assholes out there saying, oh, they shouldn't

00:55:00.940 --> 00:55:02.699
have put Ozzy through that, blah, blah, blah.

00:55:03.619 --> 00:55:06.619
It's that and the other thing. I'll say this

00:55:06.619 --> 00:55:09.360
to anybody that says that. Ozzy's the one who

00:55:09.360 --> 00:55:11.219
wanted to do this. He's the one who actually

00:55:11.219 --> 00:55:13.679
brought this whole thing on. Because he kept

00:55:13.679 --> 00:55:16.340
saying, I want one more time in front of him.

00:55:16.340 --> 00:55:18.500
I want to be able to perform one more time for

00:55:18.500 --> 00:55:22.659
my people. And, you know, this wasn't Tony pushing

00:55:22.659 --> 00:55:25.039
it. It wasn't Geezer pushing it. It wasn't Bill

00:55:25.039 --> 00:55:28.019
Ward pushing it. It was Ozzy. And then there's

00:55:28.019 --> 00:55:29.659
everybody that's like, oh, it's only Sharon.

00:55:29.739 --> 00:55:31.699
Sharon's going to keep pushing him out there

00:55:31.699 --> 00:55:35.639
until he dies. You know, I think this is all

00:55:35.639 --> 00:55:39.719
Ozzy. He wanted to do it. And God bless him.

00:55:41.239 --> 00:55:43.960
I'm glad he got to do that because how many performers

00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:47.780
get to do that? Get to come back and do their

00:55:47.780 --> 00:55:50.239
one show for their people and have it be a big

00:55:50.239 --> 00:55:52.960
deal? And he pretty much said that when he was

00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:55.420
out there live. He kind of said that in between

00:55:55.420 --> 00:55:57.300
the songs, didn't he? He was saying how much

00:55:57.300 --> 00:56:01.119
he loved it and he wanted to do it, yeah. Yeah.

00:56:01.679 --> 00:56:06.659
I mean, I give this whole thing top marks. I

00:56:06.659 --> 00:56:09.269
think... You know, we can be nitpicky about stuff,

00:56:09.369 --> 00:56:12.289
but it was a, it was an incredible event. I loved

00:56:12.289 --> 00:56:16.570
every minute of it. You know, it was so cool.

00:56:16.650 --> 00:56:19.409
Block out, block out a whole day. Got my, you

00:56:19.409 --> 00:56:22.809
know, in my theater with the cranked up and just

00:56:22.809 --> 00:56:27.750
chatting with all my, my buddies. It was, it

00:56:27.750 --> 00:56:29.769
was an awesome experience when I, I won't forget.

00:56:30.389 --> 00:56:34.750
Yeah. So here's my, my question to you guys.

00:56:35.130 --> 00:56:39.059
Okay. What other bands would you like to see

00:56:39.059 --> 00:56:45.460
hanging up in a similar fashion? Okay. I've got

00:56:45.460 --> 00:56:49.360
a few. What about you, Brad? I'm thinking. Let's

00:56:49.360 --> 00:56:51.800
hear your few. Okay. So I'll give you my first

00:56:51.800 --> 00:56:54.280
one. I'm thinking of sort of a Deep Purple tree

00:56:54.280 --> 00:56:58.519
because obviously Deep Purple is still playing.

00:56:58.780 --> 00:57:01.800
I think it would. go down well in the UK market,

00:57:01.900 --> 00:57:04.519
but probably abroad because they've gone quite

00:57:04.519 --> 00:57:06.860
popular again recently with their newer albums.

00:57:06.980 --> 00:57:09.159
But I'm thinking more, you know, they could play

00:57:09.159 --> 00:57:11.280
a lot of the stuff from the past. You could have

00:57:11.280 --> 00:57:13.920
Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow on there. You could

00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:16.519
have Glenn Hughes playing. You could have Gillan

00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:19.940
playing. You could have David Coverdale's Whitesnake

00:57:19.940 --> 00:57:23.119
playing. And it would be all in various formats.

00:57:23.800 --> 00:57:26.300
And there'll be other people playing Deep Purple

00:57:26.300 --> 00:57:30.929
songs. I think that would kind of work. You'd

00:57:30.929 --> 00:57:33.329
definitely get Metallica on board for that. Yeah.

00:57:33.869 --> 00:57:38.909
Yeah. Yeah, I could see that. That would actually

00:57:38.909 --> 00:57:41.789
be really cool. Could be really cool. It's too

00:57:41.789 --> 00:57:44.909
bad John Lord's not around, though. Yeah. The

00:57:44.909 --> 00:57:53.809
only thing there is, would Ian Gillen be fine

00:57:53.809 --> 00:57:58.179
with having Glenn Hughes and David Coverdale

00:57:58.179 --> 00:58:00.860
on the same bill. Problem at the Rock and Roll

00:58:00.860 --> 00:58:06.659
Hall of Fame. Yeah. You'd like to think he'd

00:58:06.659 --> 00:58:08.940
be a bigger man than that. Yeah. And they're

00:58:08.940 --> 00:58:11.219
playing at different times of the day. They don't

00:58:11.219 --> 00:58:14.119
have to run into each other. Even so, it's like,

00:58:14.119 --> 00:58:17.719
come on, guys, we're all adults here. Let's all

00:58:17.719 --> 00:58:21.559
hug and let's have a celebration of the music

00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:24.739
of this band, which you guys are all part of.

00:58:25.119 --> 00:58:27.960
And we're all pushing on 80. What does it matter?

00:58:28.199 --> 00:58:32.480
Yeah, yeah. Come on. Let's just play this one

00:58:32.480 --> 00:58:38.280
last time. All right. So who else? Who else?

00:58:39.400 --> 00:58:41.780
Is this another one of mine? So I'm thinking,

00:58:41.920 --> 00:58:46.800
I'm also thinking maybe, well, I had a few written

00:58:46.800 --> 00:58:49.340
down, but I'm thinking, obviously they're on

00:58:49.340 --> 00:58:51.360
tour at the moment, so it's not kind of a farewell,

00:58:51.460 --> 00:58:55.019
but you'd want an Iron Maiden one. because I

00:58:55.019 --> 00:58:56.840
think there's a lot of bands out there that would,

00:58:56.940 --> 00:59:00.179
you know, play an Iron Maiden song. And I think

00:59:00.179 --> 00:59:02.000
that there's going to be a time when Iron Maiden

00:59:02.000 --> 00:59:04.619
are going to say, hey, you know, we need to hang

00:59:04.619 --> 00:59:09.239
up our boots. No, you die with your boots on.

00:59:09.340 --> 00:59:11.519
What are you talking about? I was waiting for

00:59:11.519 --> 00:59:15.119
that, yeah. And yeah, so I think that, you know,

00:59:15.139 --> 00:59:18.320
this would be the final swung song for Iron Maiden

00:59:18.320 --> 00:59:21.630
with a big show. You talk about singers having

00:59:21.630 --> 00:59:25.769
a tough time covering Aussie songs. David Draymond

00:59:25.769 --> 00:59:29.769
singing an Iron Maiden song might be pretty interesting.

00:59:29.989 --> 00:59:32.949
I don't know. But I agree. Actually, Iron Maiden

00:59:32.949 --> 00:59:34.690
was the first band I thought of that this would

00:59:34.690 --> 00:59:37.070
be a great way for them to go out because they're

00:59:37.070 --> 00:59:40.610
worldwide. I mean, they're huge everywhere. It's

00:59:40.610 --> 00:59:43.170
not like just little spots or whatever. They

00:59:43.170 --> 00:59:45.789
could draw that kind of audience in from all

00:59:45.789 --> 00:59:50.519
over the world to watch this. Iron Maiden fans

00:59:50.519 --> 00:59:54.380
are pretty rabid, man. I could see that being

00:59:54.380 --> 00:59:59.159
successful, them being able to pull it off. So

00:59:59.159 --> 01:00:02.559
good one. Good one, Jeremy. Brad, you? Oh, go

01:00:02.559 --> 01:00:05.659
on, Brad. Yes, you'll say. No, no, no, no. Go

01:00:05.659 --> 01:00:09.260
ahead. Go ahead. Well, the one band I think another

01:00:09.260 --> 01:00:11.780
band would have been really good, but I think

01:00:11.780 --> 01:00:13.760
they've kind of missed that opportunity is Kiss.

01:00:14.460 --> 01:00:19.179
Oh, yeah. You think about how every. Again, every

01:00:19.179 --> 01:00:22.860
musician my age and younger for 10, 15 years,

01:00:23.119 --> 01:00:27.099
they're all KISS fans. And most of them will

01:00:27.099 --> 01:00:30.199
tell you, I'm a musician because of KISS, because

01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:32.480
I saw KISS and that's what got me into this.

01:00:32.719 --> 01:00:35.139
So you would have a huge group of people wanting

01:00:35.139 --> 01:00:36.860
to be part of that, wanting to get out there

01:00:36.860 --> 01:00:40.340
and do KISS songs. And I'm going to say this,

01:00:40.460 --> 01:00:43.099
a lot of people have done really good KISS covers.

01:00:43.159 --> 01:00:45.619
I think that aspect of it would be much better.

01:00:47.300 --> 01:00:50.380
Yeah. Yeah, so you'd have that kind of huge group

01:00:50.380 --> 01:00:55.699
of people wanting to play. And yeah, you could

01:00:55.699 --> 01:00:59.440
get the Kiss guys to... You still got the original

01:00:59.440 --> 01:01:03.760
guys, man. Dude, if they did it like Sabbath

01:01:03.760 --> 01:01:05.239
and said, okay, we're going to get the original

01:01:05.239 --> 01:01:08.340
four guys, come out and play three songs, four

01:01:08.340 --> 01:01:12.059
songs. Tell me, Victor, that wouldn't be huge.

01:01:12.260 --> 01:01:14.500
Tell me that the world wouldn't stop spinning

01:01:14.500 --> 01:01:17.170
for, you know... 30 minutes. It would be the

01:01:17.170 --> 01:01:19.550
biggest thing in America, wouldn't it? It would.

01:01:19.789 --> 01:01:22.710
It would. Yeah. Kiss maybe not as big in other

01:01:22.710 --> 01:01:28.130
places, but it would still be huge, man. People

01:01:28.130 --> 01:01:30.650
would, people would tune into that, but I, I

01:01:30.650 --> 01:01:33.550
just don't see it happening. No. Again, people,

01:01:33.630 --> 01:01:36.989
people didn't need to quit being, you know, so

01:01:36.989 --> 01:01:40.230
petty about stuff and like, like just say, Hey,

01:01:40.230 --> 01:01:42.789
you know, these guys are my, these guys are my

01:01:42.789 --> 01:01:46.579
family. You know, let's do this one more time.

01:01:46.599 --> 01:01:49.000
Let's get Peter out there. Yeah, he can't, you

01:01:49.000 --> 01:01:52.500
know, he probably can't play as well as Bill

01:01:52.500 --> 01:01:55.639
Ward, but that's all right. I mean, just to see

01:01:55.639 --> 01:01:58.800
him play just three songs. Yeah, and we're talking

01:01:58.800 --> 01:02:00.860
about a charity event as well, so that would

01:02:00.860 --> 01:02:03.360
encourage people to just turn up and just play

01:02:03.360 --> 01:02:07.539
a few songs and go out. Yeah, people would, you'd

01:02:07.539 --> 01:02:10.179
have to tell people, no, we have too many people

01:02:10.179 --> 01:02:13.179
wanting to be part of this. You'd have so many

01:02:13.179 --> 01:02:15.199
musicians that would want to be part of this

01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:21.000
thing. Brad, was that purposeful that you just

01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:26.059
said, he's not Bill Ward, it's all right? No,

01:02:26.280 --> 01:02:30.119
but good one. Yeah, yeah. Can I say something

01:02:30.119 --> 01:02:34.420
about Axl doing it's all right? I don't know

01:02:34.420 --> 01:02:35.960
whether he had to pee or something, but man,

01:02:35.980 --> 01:02:37.940
he was playing that as fast as I've ever heard

01:02:37.940 --> 01:02:40.710
that song. I've never heard them cover it before.

01:02:40.909 --> 01:02:43.769
So probably clock in front of them, telling them

01:02:43.769 --> 01:02:46.929
it got, it got faster. Is he, this is the first

01:02:46.929 --> 01:02:49.730
song you're playing. Yeah. And I don't know that

01:02:49.730 --> 01:02:51.829
he was really like ready to play the piano there

01:02:51.829 --> 01:02:53.869
on that. Cause he was kind of a little bit choppy

01:02:53.869 --> 01:02:55.929
and didn't do the whole song and just kind of

01:02:55.929 --> 01:02:57.750
blew through it. And he looked like he took a

01:02:57.750 --> 01:02:59.969
deep breath afterward. So it's like, Oh good.

01:03:00.030 --> 01:03:04.369
I can just sing now. Okay. But yeah, you could

01:03:04.369 --> 01:03:06.329
have got Adam Wakeman out there to play the piano

01:03:06.329 --> 01:03:08.539
and have him just sing it. Dude, that would have

01:03:08.539 --> 01:03:11.739
been pro. Here's, here's. All right. So here's

01:03:11.739 --> 01:03:14.340
the thing with, uh, that you just mentioned with

01:03:14.340 --> 01:03:18.880
kiss that I want to get back to. All right. Does

01:03:18.880 --> 01:03:26.199
this show now make kiss rush? Oh, can you imagine

01:03:26.199 --> 01:03:30.679
a rush doing something like this? Hot sink. How

01:03:30.679 --> 01:03:35.179
does, how does. How does this change what other

01:03:35.179 --> 01:03:38.539
bands do now? Because now we've brought this

01:03:38.539 --> 01:03:47.159
back and Getty and Alex say, okay, let's, let's

01:03:47.159 --> 01:03:50.780
do this. Let's do again. They can do it in Toronto.

01:03:51.860 --> 01:03:55.519
You could have a full day's worth of shows of

01:03:55.519 --> 01:03:58.659
people playing originals and covers of their

01:03:58.659 --> 01:04:03.320
songs. And then they come out. at the end of

01:04:03.320 --> 01:04:06.960
the night, and they play four or five songs.

01:04:07.099 --> 01:04:11.699
Them two with guest drummers. They come out,

01:04:11.719 --> 01:04:16.940
they play with Mike Portnoy, Danny Carey, two

01:04:16.940 --> 01:04:22.119
other guys, you know, a different drummer per

01:04:22.119 --> 01:04:28.619
song. Peter Criss. I was jokingly going to say

01:04:28.619 --> 01:04:32.260
Ringo Starr, but... Peter, Chris is okay. If

01:04:32.260 --> 01:04:34.940
we're going to put, yeah. Ringo star versus Peter,

01:04:34.980 --> 01:04:37.219
Chris, I'm going to put my money on Ringo. I'm

01:04:37.219 --> 01:04:45.920
sorry. Yeah. Me too. But outside of this, I mean,

01:04:45.940 --> 01:04:49.179
bands that I'd love to see do something like

01:04:49.179 --> 01:04:51.760
this. You guys mentioned iron maiden. I'd love

01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:55.860
to see Judas priest do this. Yeah. I'd love to

01:04:55.860 --> 01:04:57.599
see Judas priest too. I just don't think they

01:04:57.599 --> 01:05:02.079
have. I don't think they have the fan base to

01:05:02.079 --> 01:05:05.800
pull it off a worldwide thing like this. Unfortunately,

01:05:06.139 --> 01:05:08.199
Judas Priest has kind of drifted down into the

01:05:08.199 --> 01:05:11.940
B -plus territory of bands. They're not going

01:05:11.940 --> 01:05:14.539
to be able to sell out an arena or whatever,

01:05:14.639 --> 01:05:17.860
but I would love to see it, though. I think Judas

01:05:17.860 --> 01:05:20.940
Priest did something like that. But here's your

01:05:20.940 --> 01:05:24.119
selling point. You're going to get Metallica

01:05:24.119 --> 01:05:29.289
to play that. Oh, hell yeah. You might even get

01:05:29.289 --> 01:05:37.070
Iron Maiden to play that. Ooh. Maiden? Metallica?

01:05:37.550 --> 01:05:40.070
See, Nicko could probably pick up the sticks

01:05:40.070 --> 01:05:43.110
and do a couple of songs. Come on. You could

01:05:43.110 --> 01:05:48.389
see that? I could imagine a band like Scorpions.

01:05:48.389 --> 01:05:50.489
I was just going to say that. Scorpions, yeah.

01:05:51.210 --> 01:05:57.769
Scorpions, Saxon. Anthrax, Slayer, huge Judas

01:05:57.769 --> 01:06:04.170
Priest fans. So it doesn't necessarily have to

01:06:04.170 --> 01:06:07.869
be because Rush isn't a huge band worldwide either.

01:06:08.710 --> 01:06:12.949
But you get them in the right spot. You get Rush

01:06:12.949 --> 01:06:19.230
in Toronto with a bunch of bands of that stature.

01:06:20.110 --> 01:06:27.699
You get a Judas Priest. In Birmingham. With huge

01:06:27.699 --> 01:06:35.500
bands like that. And it happens. It works. I'd

01:06:35.500 --> 01:06:40.960
go if I could. I'd pay to watch it. Yeah. All

01:06:40.960 --> 01:06:42.860
of those bands. All those bands you guys have

01:06:42.860 --> 01:06:46.179
talked about. There's one other band we've not

01:06:46.179 --> 01:06:49.659
mentioned. That's ACDC. That's my other one that

01:06:49.659 --> 01:06:52.599
I was going to mention. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. ACDC

01:06:52.599 --> 01:06:55.079
for sure. Why didn't I even think of that? AC,

01:06:55.079 --> 01:06:58.239
ACDC, you could have them play anywhere in the

01:06:58.239 --> 01:07:03.280
world. You could have ACDC play at the local

01:07:03.280 --> 01:07:07.139
soccer field, which was 10 minutes walking away

01:07:07.139 --> 01:07:12.940
from me. And you could invite any band you want

01:07:12.940 --> 01:07:15.880
and that's going to sell out and sell a worldwide

01:07:15.880 --> 01:07:18.679
pay -per -view. Yeah. Any band is going to want

01:07:18.679 --> 01:07:21.639
to play because any band plays an ACDC song.

01:07:21.760 --> 01:07:25.219
So it's just, it's a no brainer, but they play

01:07:25.219 --> 01:07:27.019
anyway at the moment. So they're not going to

01:07:27.019 --> 01:07:30.539
want it. They're not interested. But listen,

01:07:30.699 --> 01:07:33.480
these bands, this was a discussion I had earlier

01:07:33.480 --> 01:07:36.679
this week. These bands are not getting younger.

01:07:37.059 --> 01:07:41.199
Yeah. This, this is a way for them to fade out

01:07:41.199 --> 01:07:47.119
in the sunset. Yeah. Does it have to be ACDC

01:07:47.119 --> 01:07:50.760
now? No. But could it be ACDC in two years? Yeah.

01:07:50.820 --> 01:07:53.960
Yeah. Yeah. Where they aren't touring, where

01:07:53.960 --> 01:07:56.679
this is a way for them to say, OK, look. Yeah.

01:07:57.559 --> 01:07:59.340
This is it. We're going to go out. We're going

01:07:59.340 --> 01:08:01.980
to do this one big show. We're going to invite

01:08:01.980 --> 01:08:05.880
all these people along. And that's going to be

01:08:05.880 --> 01:08:08.460
the end of it. Aerosmith. We mentioned Stephen.

01:08:08.500 --> 01:08:10.559
Yeah. Yeah. They were another one on my list.

01:08:10.679 --> 01:08:13.320
Yeah. Absolutely. They could do it. And by the

01:08:13.320 --> 01:08:15.860
way, as a final Swan song, we haven't discussed

01:08:15.860 --> 01:08:19.520
Led Zeppelin because there's still some original

01:08:19.520 --> 01:08:22.859
members around and they could do it. My problem

01:08:22.859 --> 01:08:25.739
is I don't think you're getting Robert Plant

01:08:25.739 --> 01:08:30.859
anywhere near that because I think Robert Plant

01:08:30.859 --> 01:08:35.479
doing those songs live is going to make Axl Rose's

01:08:35.479 --> 01:08:40.100
It's Alright sound like Bohemian Rhapsody. Yeah.

01:08:40.359 --> 01:08:45.859
You know, the thing is he doesn't have to do,

01:08:45.939 --> 01:08:48.819
you know, he could cherry pick three Zeppelin

01:08:48.819 --> 01:08:50.979
songs that you feel comfortable singing and do

01:08:50.979 --> 01:08:54.680
that and then have everybody else because it

01:08:54.680 --> 01:08:56.520
doesn't everyone else is doing the rest. Yeah.

01:08:56.739 --> 01:08:59.800
Yeah. Yeah. Because I mean, for this concert,

01:08:59.840 --> 01:09:02.159
it was all about Black Sabbath and Ozzy, but

01:09:02.159 --> 01:09:05.260
all those other bands that played, I loved all

01:09:05.260 --> 01:09:10.460
of that. I can imagine Aerosmith doing Kashmir.

01:09:10.979 --> 01:09:14.979
I can imagine, you know, Metallica doing Custard

01:09:14.979 --> 01:09:18.680
Pie. Steven Tyler's singing a whole lot of love.

01:09:18.859 --> 01:09:22.859
He was, he killed it. He killed it. And I know,

01:09:22.859 --> 01:09:24.880
I know he actually went and jammed with those

01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:27.239
guys after they did the reunion thing. And then

01:09:27.239 --> 01:09:29.819
Robert Plant was like, I'm done. I know they

01:09:29.819 --> 01:09:32.039
flew Steven over there and rehearsed with him.

01:09:32.359 --> 01:09:34.399
And I was like, I don't know about that. But

01:09:34.399 --> 01:09:35.960
after listening to him singing, I'm like, guy,

01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:39.020
he. He'd be great singing for Zeppelin, man.

01:09:39.560 --> 01:09:43.340
Right now. Holy crap. He was good. I'm still,

01:09:43.380 --> 01:09:47.779
I'm still blown away about how good he was. So

01:09:47.779 --> 01:09:50.119
is that the seed? Okay. That's a brilliant idea

01:09:50.119 --> 01:09:53.760
actually. Cause everybody, but Johan, Johan would,

01:09:53.819 --> 01:09:57.619
would not watch it because Zeppelin's not hard

01:09:57.619 --> 01:10:02.539
rock. It's not. Or metal Dan doesn't care for

01:10:02.539 --> 01:10:09.369
them. Could Motley Crue pull something like this

01:10:09.369 --> 01:10:15.750
off? No. No. No. On a smaller stage instead of

01:10:15.750 --> 01:10:20.789
a huge stadium like the LA Fall or something

01:10:20.789 --> 01:10:22.630
like that? Yeah, I guess so. Smaller stage. But

01:10:22.630 --> 01:10:24.529
I don't think anyone's going to be as interested

01:10:24.529 --> 01:10:28.930
in that. It's not. Yeah. How many big bands are

01:10:28.930 --> 01:10:30.810
going to want to queue up to be part of that?

01:10:32.949 --> 01:10:38.659
Journey could do it. Wow. Yeah. Especially as

01:10:38.659 --> 01:10:45.359
they get, um, Steve Perry. Yeah. We're going

01:10:45.359 --> 01:10:47.720
to do one, one last show and Steve Perry is going

01:10:47.720 --> 01:10:55.060
to sing with the band and, um, wow. Yeah. Journey

01:10:55.060 --> 01:10:58.579
journey could probably do it. Still not as big

01:10:58.579 --> 01:11:01.060
as some of these other bands, I think, but, but

01:11:01.060 --> 01:11:03.420
they could, they could do something like that.

01:11:03.520 --> 01:11:06.659
Those guys can't get along though. The hell's

01:11:06.659 --> 01:11:10.460
wrong with them. Seriously. You can maybe do

01:11:10.460 --> 01:11:12.760
a queen one because obviously Brian may still

01:11:12.760 --> 01:11:15.140
around and you've got Roger Taylor and they could

01:11:15.140 --> 01:11:17.500
come out and do a few queen songs and you probably

01:11:17.500 --> 01:11:20.539
get a load of people doing queen stuff. Yeah.

01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:22.119
You probably, you probably saw that. Didn't they,

01:11:22.180 --> 01:11:24.380
they got some kind of award. It wasn't, it wasn't

01:11:24.380 --> 01:11:27.319
that over there in the UK and they, they have

01:11:27.319 --> 01:11:31.390
a bunch of people doing queen songs. We had Papa

01:11:31.390 --> 01:11:34.449
doing Bohemian Rhapsody, which he actually did.

01:11:34.449 --> 01:11:39.430
Yeah, that's right. I love that the boys are

01:11:39.430 --> 01:11:41.390
sitting there eating dinner while they're, you

01:11:41.390 --> 01:11:44.649
know, Bohemian Rhapsody is going on. Brian May

01:11:44.649 --> 01:11:47.130
is like, this salad dressing is a little spicy.

01:11:50.010 --> 01:11:53.810
So I didn't, I wasn't aware that Jake was having

01:11:53.810 --> 01:11:56.430
problems with his hands as you had mentioned.

01:11:57.069 --> 01:11:59.550
I don't have a confirmation that somebody told

01:11:59.550 --> 01:12:03.279
me that. Somebody told me that he refused to

01:12:03.279 --> 01:12:06.960
play Bark at the Moon. He said, I just can't

01:12:06.960 --> 01:12:09.439
do it anymore. I just can't. Because it's a tough

01:12:09.439 --> 01:12:16.000
lick to play. Well, but is that maybe from the

01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:21.000
recent shooting? Because he claimed it was, well,

01:12:21.039 --> 01:12:23.140
the person who told me this claimed that he said

01:12:23.140 --> 01:12:26.819
it was arthritis. Well, but here's the thing.

01:12:26.840 --> 01:12:29.140
With Red Dragon Cartel, he was playing all that

01:12:29.140 --> 01:12:32.060
stuff. Right. But that was years ago. I mean,

01:12:32.079 --> 01:12:36.199
that was a while ago. Yeah. Dragon Cartel show.

01:12:36.479 --> 01:12:40.079
Four or five years ago. Yeah. Yeah. Trust me,

01:12:40.119 --> 01:12:42.140
when you get to when you get to this age, one

01:12:42.140 --> 01:12:46.220
year. Exactly. What I'm going to feel like a

01:12:46.220 --> 01:12:50.680
year from now. Yeah. Four or five years. It's

01:12:50.680 --> 01:12:53.800
just a long time. So this is an exponential decrease.

01:12:55.539 --> 01:13:02.329
Yeah. This is what I was going to throw out,

01:13:02.449 --> 01:13:05.029
the possible thing for Jake. I guess based on

01:13:05.029 --> 01:13:06.810
what you guys are telling me, you guys are going

01:13:06.810 --> 01:13:09.550
to poo -poo all over my idea here. But I'll throw

01:13:09.550 --> 01:13:11.729
it out there anyway. No, no, no, let's hear it.

01:13:12.789 --> 01:13:19.710
So, yeah, so Zach Wild started Zach Sabbath as

01:13:19.710 --> 01:13:24.310
a way to kind of keep Sabbath music going. What

01:13:24.310 --> 01:13:28.859
if Zach decides to... Start up another project

01:13:28.859 --> 01:13:32.960
with Jake where they keep the Ozzy material going.

01:13:35.239 --> 01:13:37.920
Short tours. You don't have to do a long year

01:13:37.920 --> 01:13:41.100
long tour. Maybe you do a month and a half, two

01:13:41.100 --> 01:13:44.319
months worth of touring. Doesn't have to be in

01:13:44.319 --> 01:13:49.199
large arenas. Yeah. What's that? You get Billy

01:13:49.199 --> 01:13:53.960
Corgan to be the singer. You wouldn't necessarily

01:13:53.960 --> 01:13:58.970
need Billy Corgan, but. Zach's already doing

01:13:58.970 --> 01:14:02.789
Ozzy vocals with the Zach Sabas stuff. Yeah,

01:14:02.789 --> 01:14:05.109
you're right. He sings Ozzy really well. You

01:14:05.109 --> 01:14:07.829
know who really sings Ozzy well? And Jeremy already

01:14:07.829 --> 01:14:10.510
talked about this, is Jack Black. Holy crap,

01:14:10.649 --> 01:14:14.409
his voice is really suited for Ozzy. He was amazing.

01:14:14.770 --> 01:14:18.470
He was the best. I'm still going to go Jay from

01:14:18.470 --> 01:14:22.189
Rival Sons. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. But two of

01:14:22.189 --> 01:14:25.500
them are amazing. He has so much swagger, man.

01:14:26.239 --> 01:14:30.359
He's got the maroon suit on, no shoes or socks,

01:14:30.560 --> 01:14:32.760
and he's out there just killing it, running back

01:14:32.760 --> 01:14:36.640
and forth. I was like, crap, how can these guys

01:14:36.640 --> 01:14:40.739
be so damn good and not be bigger? But if you

01:14:40.739 --> 01:14:44.739
had one of those singing in that band that Victor's

01:14:44.739 --> 01:14:51.329
just mentioned, it's got legs. Yeah. Yeah, I'm

01:14:51.329 --> 01:14:53.970
not going to poo -poo that. Who knows? Maybe

01:14:53.970 --> 01:14:59.189
Jake can, you know, with some physical therapy,

01:14:59.310 --> 01:15:02.029
some occupational therapy, get his fingers going.

01:15:02.609 --> 01:15:09.029
The human body can do amazing things. Yeah, it's

01:15:09.029 --> 01:15:12.029
a good thought. Yeah, I think it's a great idea,

01:15:12.149 --> 01:15:14.829
Victor. I'm not going to poo -poo it. Yeah, it's

01:15:14.829 --> 01:15:20.510
a good thought. But an even better thought is

01:15:20.510 --> 01:15:23.109
whether Sabbath will continue to do anything

01:15:23.109 --> 01:15:31.529
after this. I hope not. Just because they hit

01:15:31.529 --> 01:15:38.609
this so well. It's like, why risk going out not

01:15:38.609 --> 01:15:43.489
looking that good? You've got to stop now. Stop

01:15:43.489 --> 01:15:46.489
now. But Ozzy is definitely going to stop. We

01:15:46.489 --> 01:15:49.869
know that. But is Tony Iommi going to stop? Oh,

01:15:49.930 --> 01:15:53.310
I hope Tony keeps playing. I mean, he can still,

01:15:53.369 --> 01:15:56.670
he can, but Willie, I don't know. I got to tell

01:15:56.670 --> 01:15:59.310
you something, you know, as somebody who's recently

01:15:59.310 --> 01:16:04.850
retired, your whole, it changes your whole outlook

01:16:04.850 --> 01:16:08.890
on doing things. It's kind of like, eh, I don't

01:16:08.890 --> 01:16:12.010
know. Yeah, you're going to lose that drive.

01:16:13.250 --> 01:16:15.430
Well, maybe I'm just talking about me. It's like,

01:16:15.449 --> 01:16:17.470
yeah, I'm going to go conquer the world now.

01:16:17.569 --> 01:16:20.090
I don't know. I'm going to sit back, have a beverage,

01:16:20.130 --> 01:16:24.689
and watch the world go by. But Tony said, he

01:16:24.689 --> 01:16:27.850
said, this is the end of the chapter, but it's

01:16:27.850 --> 01:16:31.350
not the end of, what did he say? It's not the

01:16:31.350 --> 01:16:36.369
end of the story. The end of the story. So that

01:16:36.369 --> 01:16:39.109
was quite a poignant message that he put out

01:16:39.109 --> 01:16:42.850
because it means there's something extra, whether

01:16:42.850 --> 01:16:45.069
he means that it's the legacy that everyone will

01:16:45.069 --> 01:16:47.909
talk about or whether he's actually got plans

01:16:47.909 --> 01:16:50.270
to do something else. And I'm thinking, is he

01:16:50.270 --> 01:16:54.350
going to do something with Tony Martin? Yeah,

01:16:55.170 --> 01:16:57.890
but that's not going to have the same. I mean,

01:16:57.970 --> 01:17:00.750
I'm thinking. You're right. And nobody's going

01:17:00.750 --> 01:17:03.300
to queue up for that other than us. Well, we

01:17:03.300 --> 01:17:05.260
will. Yeah, we'll be interested. But yeah, I

01:17:05.260 --> 01:17:08.020
agree. But he brought out, obviously, the Tony

01:17:08.020 --> 01:17:11.960
Martin era stuff recently. Is he going to produce

01:17:11.960 --> 01:17:16.600
a solo album with Tony Martin singing? But it's

01:17:16.600 --> 01:17:18.279
not going to be Black Sabbath. It's just going

01:17:18.279 --> 01:17:21.420
to be Tony Iommi. I mean, Tony always gives me

01:17:21.420 --> 01:17:23.439
the impression that he hasn't given up yet. He

01:17:23.439 --> 01:17:26.340
wants to do something. You know, what I'm saying

01:17:26.340 --> 01:17:29.659
to you as well is that... There were four songs

01:17:29.659 --> 01:17:33.140
played. Tony was the only one who said we could

01:17:33.140 --> 01:17:38.039
have played five more. He wanted to do it. I

01:17:38.039 --> 01:17:41.479
think Geezer can still play, but I know from

01:17:41.479 --> 01:17:43.300
listening to him in interviews that he's kind

01:17:43.300 --> 01:17:46.979
of like, he's kind of checked out a little bit.

01:17:47.000 --> 01:17:49.199
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know, somebody calls with

01:17:49.199 --> 01:17:51.180
something, you know, come play with me for a

01:17:51.180 --> 01:17:53.479
couple songs. Yeah, he'll be there. I'll go do

01:17:53.479 --> 01:17:57.319
it. But Tony's done a couple of sort of instrumental

01:17:57.319 --> 01:17:59.659
things, hasn't he, which he's sent out there.

01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:04.720
And he's done the remastering of the Black Sabbath,

01:18:04.739 --> 01:18:07.779
Tony Martin era. He's always wanting to do something.

01:18:08.000 --> 01:18:11.739
I'm just thinking he thinks, because Black Sabbath

01:18:11.739 --> 01:18:14.699
is his kind of baby still, isn't it? I'm just

01:18:14.699 --> 01:18:16.899
thinking, does he think there's something there?

01:18:17.369 --> 01:18:23.409
What's that? It's his, but not legally. The Osborne

01:18:23.409 --> 01:18:27.789
family owns 75 % of it now. Yeah, yeah. But he

01:18:27.789 --> 01:18:29.930
could do his own thing, which sounds like Sabbath.

01:18:30.689 --> 01:18:34.409
Yeah. I mean, I could imagine he's recently talked

01:18:34.409 --> 01:18:38.149
about re -releasing Born Again in a remix. That's

01:18:38.149 --> 01:18:41.010
supposedly he's done. That's a supposedly done

01:18:41.010 --> 01:18:46.539
deal that he's remixed it. I could see them,

01:18:46.539 --> 01:18:54.319
I could see them releasing live stuff from, you

01:18:54.319 --> 01:18:58.079
know, from the band, from the Ozzy era, like

01:18:58.079 --> 01:19:01.880
there being more material from that side of things.

01:19:01.960 --> 01:19:04.460
I could see how the story continues with that.

01:19:04.720 --> 01:19:09.800
Yeah. I got, I got an idea. Okay. This is based

01:19:09.800 --> 01:19:12.479
on listening to Jeremy talking about one of his

01:19:12.479 --> 01:19:16.020
favorite singers. Ronnie Romero is that they

01:19:16.020 --> 01:19:20.939
could do geezer and Tony could do a tribute to

01:19:20.939 --> 01:19:25.359
the Dio era of Sabbath and heaven and hell. They

01:19:25.359 --> 01:19:27.100
can, they could do something like that. There's

01:19:27.100 --> 01:19:29.220
plenty of singers out there that can do really

01:19:29.220 --> 01:19:34.060
good. Ronnie. Yeah. You know, you know, people

01:19:34.060 --> 01:19:36.600
would queue up for that too, to jump in on that.

01:19:36.680 --> 01:19:39.119
It's like, let's do, let's do a celebration of

01:19:39.119 --> 01:19:44.659
Ronnie. Yeah. But I think, I think, They would

01:19:44.659 --> 01:19:50.079
have done that by now. Well, yes and no. It's

01:19:50.079 --> 01:19:56.279
been 15 years since he died. But, I mean, the

01:19:56.279 --> 01:20:00.500
thing is, this that just happened opens this

01:20:00.500 --> 01:20:02.899
up again. I mean, I don't think anybody thought,

01:20:03.039 --> 01:20:05.920
well, who's going to want to do this? Who's going

01:20:05.920 --> 01:20:09.739
to put up the money, this and that? Now that

01:20:09.739 --> 01:20:11.500
they've done this and pulled it off and it's

01:20:11.500 --> 01:20:14.239
been a real big success, I think it opens it

01:20:14.239 --> 01:20:16.020
up to other people trying to do this kind of

01:20:16.020 --> 01:20:20.520
thing. So I agree with that, but I don't see,

01:20:20.739 --> 01:20:22.460
you know, they're not going to be able to use

01:20:22.460 --> 01:20:26.560
the Sabbath name. Heaven and hell. But it doesn't

01:20:26.560 --> 01:20:31.359
have the same. No, it doesn't. It doesn't. So

01:20:31.359 --> 01:20:37.079
I've got a question for you. We know how well

01:20:37.079 --> 01:20:41.909
Ozzy sung at this thing. We know that Ozzy is

01:20:41.909 --> 01:20:45.229
finished as a live act, but Ozzy has never finished

01:20:45.229 --> 01:20:48.350
as a recording act. Yeah, he's going to put on

01:20:48.350 --> 01:20:51.689
more music. I know. Do you think Black Sabbath

01:20:51.689 --> 01:20:56.329
are going to release another album? With Andrew

01:20:56.329 --> 01:21:01.090
Watt producing? It'd be better than Rick Rubin

01:21:01.090 --> 01:21:07.460
producing. I'd actually like to hear that. They've

01:21:07.460 --> 01:21:09.739
all got together. They've all played well together.

01:21:11.159 --> 01:21:13.779
They released 13, but it didn't have Bill Ward

01:21:13.779 --> 01:21:16.199
on. Do you think they could follow up with a

01:21:16.199 --> 01:21:20.960
very final Sabbath album, 2026? What would they

01:21:20.960 --> 01:21:25.739
release? I think it'd be really cool. I don't

01:21:25.739 --> 01:21:29.699
think that. I don't know. Here's, here's, here's

01:21:29.699 --> 01:21:32.180
maybe not an album, but let's remember when they

01:21:32.180 --> 01:21:35.159
released the reunion album, they had selling

01:21:35.159 --> 01:21:38.060
my soul and psycho man on it. One of them had

01:21:38.060 --> 01:21:40.520
Bill Ward. One of them had Mike Borden on drums.

01:21:40.659 --> 01:21:45.920
Yeah. Maybe that's what they do for a, if this

01:21:45.920 --> 01:21:52.020
ever comes out as an actual album or as a box

01:21:52.020 --> 01:21:56.239
set, maybe we get a new Sabbath song or two.

01:21:57.560 --> 01:22:01.479
to kind of wrap things up. I wouldn't put it

01:22:01.479 --> 01:22:03.939
past Sharon to have already got this in her mind

01:22:03.939 --> 01:22:06.359
to think that, you know, we could just push one

01:22:06.359 --> 01:22:08.899
more album out. We've done this live thing and

01:22:08.899 --> 01:22:11.239
there's a big interest now in Sabbath. Everybody's

01:22:11.239 --> 01:22:13.659
listening to Sabbath again, talking about Sabbath,

01:22:13.819 --> 01:22:18.819
you know. Maybe 13 wasn't the last album. Maybe

01:22:18.819 --> 01:22:20.960
they will do one more. Having said that, why

01:22:20.960 --> 01:22:23.479
would they do it? Because there's not much money

01:22:23.479 --> 01:22:25.520
in an album. It's more in touring these days

01:22:25.520 --> 01:22:28.060
and merchandise. But they would sell a lot of

01:22:28.060 --> 01:22:30.380
merchandise and a lot of other stuff based on

01:22:30.380 --> 01:22:35.319
an album. Yeah, 13. And it would get to number

01:22:35.319 --> 01:22:40.939
one in the UK pretty easily, I think. Could they

01:22:40.939 --> 01:22:44.810
be planning on doing the same thing that... Kiss

01:22:44.810 --> 01:22:49.710
is doing right now and that ABBA has done with

01:22:49.710 --> 01:22:52.250
doing something in Birmingham related to Sabbath.

01:22:54.590 --> 01:22:58.869
Oh, right. Yeah. We have to be avatars. I mean,

01:22:58.930 --> 01:23:02.689
it can be what I've always discussed where it's

01:23:02.689 --> 01:23:05.550
actual footage of the band playing, where you

01:23:05.550 --> 01:23:10.210
actually go to a, you know, a, a, a 2000 seat

01:23:10.210 --> 01:23:14.569
arena. Yeah. And. for this month, you're going

01:23:14.569 --> 01:23:21.210
to have, you know, the Sabbath doing this tour,

01:23:21.390 --> 01:23:23.750
or you're going to have Sabbath doing this other

01:23:23.750 --> 01:23:30.810
thing. And, you know, at that, at that time,

01:23:30.949 --> 01:23:37.029
I mean, do you get, do you get a Sharon to kind

01:23:37.029 --> 01:23:38.989
of bend a little and say, Hey, you know what,

01:23:39.010 --> 01:23:41.409
we're going to do a Sabbath festival for people

01:23:41.409 --> 01:23:45.600
to go see. Do we throw in a Dio song in there?

01:23:45.659 --> 01:23:52.039
I doubt it, but you know. Yeah, I think a sort

01:23:52.039 --> 01:23:55.479
of avatar or a live sort of show of some sort.

01:23:55.600 --> 01:23:58.859
Yeah, it's got a lot of legs. Definitely possible.

01:24:00.420 --> 01:24:03.880
Again, Sabbath is a band that could do it. Sabbath

01:24:03.880 --> 01:24:06.840
in the right place, which is Birmingham, who's

01:24:06.840 --> 01:24:09.479
already bending over backwards for the band.

01:24:12.279 --> 01:24:14.359
Here's the other thing to take into consideration.

01:24:15.420 --> 01:24:19.300
Led Zeppelin and Judas Priest are both from the

01:24:19.300 --> 01:24:24.199
same city. Yeah. Yeah. Do either one of those

01:24:24.199 --> 01:24:26.880
bands have a bridge? Do they have a bench? Do

01:24:26.880 --> 01:24:29.439
they have all the murals that Sabbath now has

01:24:29.439 --> 01:24:35.140
in that city? There isn't that same tie -in with

01:24:35.140 --> 01:24:40.720
those two bands that there is with Sabbath. Yeah.

01:24:41.479 --> 01:24:43.760
The other thing to bear in mind, which you two

01:24:43.760 --> 01:24:45.520
guys probably don't know, is that Birmingham

01:24:45.520 --> 01:24:49.460
City Council is actually bankrupt. And so they

01:24:49.460 --> 01:24:51.979
could do with a lot of revenue. They need to

01:24:51.979 --> 01:24:54.300
bring a lot of money into the city at the moment

01:24:54.300 --> 01:24:57.220
because it's the only city at the moment that

01:24:57.220 --> 01:24:59.819
I know, the only major city that is completely

01:24:59.819 --> 01:25:04.840
on its knees. I won't go into all the details.

01:25:05.260 --> 01:25:07.220
There's a lot of politics involved, but there's

01:25:07.220 --> 01:25:11.579
a lot of in. sort of detail as well. But the

01:25:11.579 --> 01:25:15.439
main thing from that is that they would welcome,

01:25:15.619 --> 01:25:18.520
they would really welcome a big Black Sabbath

01:25:18.520 --> 01:25:22.119
continuation, if I can put it that way, you know,

01:25:22.140 --> 01:25:25.699
from this gig to have people coming into the

01:25:25.699 --> 01:25:30.539
city to have revenue from whatever is being done

01:25:30.539 --> 01:25:34.840
in Black Sabbath's name. I think that it would

01:25:34.840 --> 01:25:40.840
be very good for Birmingham. So, so, so there

01:25:40.840 --> 01:25:43.539
you go. If there's any type of museum exhibit,

01:25:43.939 --> 01:25:51.560
uh, avatar, um, whatever you may be planning,

01:25:51.699 --> 01:25:56.859
maybe a Sabbath museum. Yeah. Birmingham is a

01:25:56.859 --> 01:26:00.319
place to do it. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, I went

01:26:00.319 --> 01:26:03.560
to the, um, I went to a temporary museum exhibit

01:26:03.560 --> 01:26:06.329
in Birmingham. for black Sabbath. It was really

01:26:06.329 --> 01:26:08.850
good. They had all Tony's guitars in there and

01:26:08.850 --> 01:26:11.609
they had various bits and pieces and some, you

01:26:11.609 --> 01:26:14.010
know, nice video footage and yeah, they could

01:26:14.010 --> 01:26:17.369
do a permanent thing in there. I'll tell you

01:26:17.369 --> 01:26:20.250
what, watching this, uh, this show the other

01:26:20.250 --> 01:26:22.350
day made me feel like I need to go to Birmingham.

01:26:22.949 --> 01:26:28.109
I need to go there. I, yeah, it's great. Yeah.

01:26:28.670 --> 01:26:31.430
It's a good city. Great city center. I really

01:26:31.430 --> 01:26:36.960
like it. So. So there you go. I have to go to,

01:26:36.979 --> 01:26:39.880
I have to go see Jeremy too. Yeah. Well, if you

01:26:39.880 --> 01:26:41.340
go to Birmingham, I'll come and meet you there.

01:26:43.960 --> 01:26:45.439
Yeah. You don't want me to know where you live.

01:26:45.500 --> 01:26:51.859
I get it. You did meet me in London. So yeah,

01:26:51.880 --> 01:26:56.300
I did. Yeah. Jeremy's got a secret life. He's

01:26:56.300 --> 01:26:58.739
trying to protect. No, you can come and visit

01:26:58.739 --> 01:27:05.699
me here. It's fine. Okay. Awesome. Any parting

01:27:05.699 --> 01:27:12.060
words before we wrap the show up? Brad? It was

01:27:12.060 --> 01:27:15.800
a day that I will remember forever. It was fun,

01:27:15.800 --> 01:27:19.460
and it was really cool to be able to share it

01:27:19.460 --> 01:27:22.699
with the people. The Signals from Mars group

01:27:22.699 --> 01:27:26.279
on the chat, it was great to be able to share

01:27:26.279 --> 01:27:29.300
it with those guys, and it was really great to

01:27:29.300 --> 01:27:31.840
share it with my brother. As you know, he's probably

01:27:31.840 --> 01:27:36.359
the world's largest Black Sabbath fan. And it

01:27:36.359 --> 01:27:41.220
was just fun, man. It was a fun day. And I'm

01:27:41.220 --> 01:27:44.800
so glad I was able to have that day to be able

01:27:44.800 --> 01:27:49.119
to take in the whole thing. Excellent. Jeremy?

01:27:49.479 --> 01:27:52.239
Yeah, I'd just say that without Black Sabbath,

01:27:52.479 --> 01:27:55.579
heavy metal would be all the poorer. They've

01:27:55.579 --> 01:27:58.840
contributed so much to the genre that we like.

01:27:59.560 --> 01:28:01.840
and that we love, and we'll never forget them

01:28:01.840 --> 01:28:03.699
because we've got all the albums, we've got the

01:28:03.699 --> 01:28:07.340
CDs, and they'll live on forever. And they've

01:28:07.340 --> 01:28:10.439
influenced so much over the years, and it's just

01:28:10.439 --> 01:28:12.760
been great. You know, everybody knows Paranoid,

01:28:12.760 --> 01:28:17.300
and that marks a band out from the sort of the

01:28:17.300 --> 01:28:21.579
almost -rans, the also -rans, because, you know,

01:28:21.579 --> 01:28:24.340
when you've got a song that everyone knows, even

01:28:24.340 --> 01:28:28.989
your mother -in -law, it's, you know. That big.

01:28:30.489 --> 01:28:35.289
You don't know my mother -in -law. The other

01:28:35.289 --> 01:28:37.689
thing is, you look at the crowd at this thing,

01:28:37.729 --> 01:28:40.270
you know how tough it was to get tickets. I feel

01:28:40.270 --> 01:28:42.550
like most of the people I saw there were young,

01:28:42.689 --> 01:28:47.810
younger than me. Young people. Young people there,

01:28:47.829 --> 01:28:51.029
which means Sabbath. Sabbath is going to live

01:28:51.029 --> 01:28:54.829
forever. Yeah. Heavy Bells having a renaissance.

01:28:55.069 --> 01:28:57.649
People are into Maiden and Sabbath and all the

01:28:57.649 --> 01:29:00.390
old bands that we got into when we were young.

01:29:00.550 --> 01:29:03.890
People are getting into them again. Yeah. It's

01:29:03.890 --> 01:29:05.670
not like people were giving away tickets to that

01:29:05.670 --> 01:29:10.689
thing. Yeah. Yeah. But because they're amazing

01:29:10.689 --> 01:29:14.350
songs, if you don't have the amazing songs, you

01:29:14.350 --> 01:29:16.250
ain't going to be remembered, but you will be

01:29:16.250 --> 01:29:20.119
if you have those great songs. Yeah. songs and

01:29:20.119 --> 01:29:22.880
the personality of everybody in the band is it's,

01:29:22.880 --> 01:29:27.020
it's the, there's the whole package. There you

01:29:27.020 --> 01:29:30.420
go. And on that note, folks, I do want to thank

01:29:30.420 --> 01:29:34.000
Brad and Jeremy for joining me for this awesome

01:29:34.000 --> 01:29:38.460
discussion. With that, we will end the show.

01:29:38.899 --> 01:29:41.859
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01:29:41.859 --> 01:29:59.819
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01:30:08.880 --> 01:30:09.439
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