WEBVTT 00:00:00.270 --> 00:00:05.450 Welcome one and all to episode 417 of Signals 00:00:05.450 --> 00:00:08.990 from Mars. I'm your host, Victor. And this episode, 00:00:08.990 --> 00:00:13.130 it is our Megadeth Albums Countdown. We had a 00:00:13.130 --> 00:00:15.210 bunch of different people vote on this, submitting 00:00:15.210 --> 00:00:20.170 their top 10 favorite Megadeth albums. And Ed 00:00:20.170 --> 00:00:23.870 Ferguson joins me to go over these albums. I 00:00:23.870 --> 00:00:26.190 will say that I was pleasantly surprised that 00:00:26.190 --> 00:00:58.890 I could not stump Ed. These episodes are always 00:00:58.890 --> 00:01:02.219 fun. It sucks that there weren't more people 00:01:02.219 --> 00:01:05.340 that could join me. Usually it's my patrons that 00:01:05.340 --> 00:01:07.140 are the ones that join me for these episodes. 00:01:07.219 --> 00:01:10.540 That's one of the caveats for joining Patreon. 00:01:10.859 --> 00:01:13.000 We're as little as two bucks a month. Patreon 00:01:13.000 --> 00:01:16.319 .com forward slash signals from Mars. But anyway, 00:01:16.519 --> 00:01:21.799 yeah, so usually it's three, four, five people. 00:01:21.939 --> 00:01:24.099 Anthony Mackie tried to join, but look, there 00:01:24.099 --> 00:01:28.019 were a lot of people on vacation. or people that 00:01:28.019 --> 00:01:30.519 had other commitments and just couldn't make 00:01:30.519 --> 00:01:35.459 it. And it sucks, but it's life. What can we 00:01:35.459 --> 00:01:38.920 do? Ed and I still had a great time. It was fun 00:01:38.920 --> 00:01:43.200 talking to Ed, and his Megadeth knowledge was 00:01:43.200 --> 00:01:48.260 a lot better than what he let on. I mean, I didn't 00:01:48.260 --> 00:01:50.280 doubt it, but he was saying, well, you know, 00:01:50.299 --> 00:01:52.099 there are some albums there that I really wasn't 00:01:52.099 --> 00:01:56.299 into, and this and that. And I think that bringing 00:01:56.299 --> 00:01:59.879 this up, or actually being part of this episode, 00:01:59.939 --> 00:02:02.560 I should say, there's probably a further appreciation 00:02:02.560 --> 00:02:06.659 for a lot of their music. Look, not everything 00:02:06.659 --> 00:02:11.280 that Megadeth has released is golden by far. 00:02:11.500 --> 00:02:16.560 There are a lot of turds in there. But that's 00:02:16.560 --> 00:02:18.919 the same with everyone's catalog. I don't think 00:02:18.919 --> 00:02:22.580 anyone really, unless you put out an album or 00:02:22.580 --> 00:02:27.400 two, can't claim to put out a dud here or there, 00:02:27.500 --> 00:02:31.500 or, you know, something that isn't as monumental 00:02:31.500 --> 00:02:36.039 as other albums. I'm thankful that Megadeth is 00:02:36.039 --> 00:02:39.000 part of the soundtrack of my life. Every album 00:02:39.000 --> 00:02:44.099 of theirs always seems to have something that 00:02:44.099 --> 00:02:48.620 I like. And yes, even albums like Super Collider 00:02:48.620 --> 00:02:51.379 or Risk even have a track or two that I enjoy. 00:02:52.429 --> 00:02:54.830 I'm not one of these people that gets hung up 00:02:54.830 --> 00:02:57.849 on, oh, it can only be rest in peace or peace 00:02:57.849 --> 00:03:01.009 sells. Are they as good? I'm not going to sit 00:03:01.009 --> 00:03:03.710 here and tell you that some of these albums are 00:03:03.710 --> 00:03:07.150 as good as some of my favorites by the band. 00:03:07.650 --> 00:03:10.189 But they have albums like United Abominations, 00:03:10.250 --> 00:03:12.430 for example, that I absolutely love and that 00:03:12.430 --> 00:03:16.430 I still play tracks off of frequently in 2025. 00:03:22.879 --> 00:03:25.479 everything that a band releases doesn't have 00:03:25.479 --> 00:03:28.219 to be the greatest thing they've released ever. 00:03:28.360 --> 00:03:31.599 You can still enjoy it. It can still go in that 00:03:31.599 --> 00:03:34.800 Megadeth playlist. So hopefully what this show 00:03:34.800 --> 00:03:38.740 does is it makes you go back and check out the 00:03:38.740 --> 00:03:41.580 Megadeth catalog, like a lot of people that submitted 00:03:41.580 --> 00:03:46.400 their lists, and it makes you realize how strong 00:03:46.400 --> 00:03:54.210 their catalog actually is. listens to this episode, 00:03:54.409 --> 00:03:57.849 watches the video version, shares it on social 00:03:57.849 --> 00:04:01.810 media, or decides to join Patreon as a result 00:04:01.810 --> 00:04:04.449 because you want to be part of the next episode 00:04:04.449 --> 00:04:09.110 similar to this one. Thank you for any support 00:04:09.110 --> 00:04:14.310 that you can give me. I started in 2009, back 00:04:14.310 --> 00:04:18.829 in the Wild West, and in 2025, man are things 00:04:18.829 --> 00:04:21.160 different. I'm still trying to have fun. 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Joining me today for our Megadeth 00:05:23.819 --> 00:05:27.939 discussion is Ed Ferguson in Kentucky. Ed, how 00:05:27.939 --> 00:05:35.680 are you? Doing good, sir. Thank you. Excellent. 00:05:36.120 --> 00:05:41.300 And we have Anthony popping in and out. He's 00:05:41.300 --> 00:05:47.500 on vacation in Portugal. Edgar Winterson in the 00:05:47.500 --> 00:05:54.079 chat. Thank you for joining us, Edgar. And tonight's 00:05:54.079 --> 00:05:58.579 episode is a Megadeth albums countdown. Had a 00:05:58.579 --> 00:06:02.660 fairly good turnout. Had every Megadeth album 00:06:02.660 --> 00:06:07.319 and even an EP voted for by quite a few people. 00:06:07.800 --> 00:06:15.089 So that's cool to hear. Yeah. So in total. There's 00:06:15.089 --> 00:06:20.329 17 entries here, and I'm going to quickly go 00:06:20.329 --> 00:06:25.790 over 17 through 11, and then we'll take our time 00:06:25.790 --> 00:06:32.689 to dissect the rest. So at 17, we have Super 00:06:32.689 --> 00:06:38.529 Collider. At 16, The World Needs a Hero, which 00:06:38.529 --> 00:06:41.269 is the first tour where I actually saw them. 00:06:42.500 --> 00:06:46.420 I saw them on the Maximum Rocks tour and I'd 00:06:46.420 --> 00:06:49.920 gotten tickets for that because Anthrax was playing. 00:06:50.040 --> 00:06:54.439 It was Motley Crue, Megadeth and Anthrax. And 00:06:54.439 --> 00:06:56.740 by the time the tour got around to where I was 00:06:56.740 --> 00:07:01.720 at, they'd kicked Anthrax off the tour because 00:07:01.720 --> 00:07:06.720 they weren't making enough money. So the way 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:14.160 to solve that was. Not paying anthrax. Basically. 00:07:15.019 --> 00:07:20.660 Did that tour have Al Petrelli and DeGrasso? 00:07:21.879 --> 00:07:28.199 Yes, it did. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah. Yeah, and it 00:07:28.199 --> 00:07:33.500 was before The World Needs a Hero because they 00:07:33.500 --> 00:07:43.160 played Kill the King. And they also played Return 00:07:43.160 --> 00:07:48.139 to the Hangar Live. Sorry, I remember that. And 00:07:48.139 --> 00:07:52.019 then I don't remember if they played Dread the 00:07:52.019 --> 00:07:55.560 Fugitive Mind or not. Actually, they were on 00:07:55.560 --> 00:08:02.060 tour for a Greatest Hits called Capital Punishment. 00:08:02.860 --> 00:08:07.189 I have that. Yeah, and then A World Needs a Hero 00:08:07.189 --> 00:08:09.730 or The World Needs a Hero came out after that 00:08:09.730 --> 00:08:12.529 with the two bonus tracks or the two unreleased 00:08:12.529 --> 00:08:16.290 tracks that weren't on that album. There's stuff 00:08:16.290 --> 00:08:22.290 off of that that I still enjoy. Enjoy more than 00:08:22.290 --> 00:08:24.269 some of the other albums that came out after, 00:08:24.329 --> 00:08:28.009 but I mean, it's interesting because I think 00:08:28.009 --> 00:08:32.539 when you jumped on with the band, influences 00:08:32.539 --> 00:08:36.600 where somebody voted for an album here and also 00:08:36.600 --> 00:08:46.019 yeah yeah and um and and i'm guessing that you 00:08:46.019 --> 00:08:48.600 know with some of the later albums depending 00:08:48.600 --> 00:08:55.600 on how um um how much time you've spent with 00:08:55.600 --> 00:09:00.519 them because i think that there's And there are 00:09:00.519 --> 00:09:03.080 some albums, some later albums that get voted 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:05.059 for. And then there are some that are kind of 00:09:05.059 --> 00:09:07.220 in between that a lot of people voted for as 00:09:07.220 --> 00:09:11.580 well. So it all goes in cycles. You know, I don't 00:09:11.580 --> 00:09:14.080 I don't care for this album, but it's kind of 00:09:14.080 --> 00:09:16.879 cool that you got to see that version of Megadeth. 00:09:16.899 --> 00:09:20.379 That was a very short lived version. So that's 00:09:20.379 --> 00:09:21.960 something you can say that you saw that a lot 00:09:21.960 --> 00:09:25.669 of people didn't. Yep. Yeah, and that was the 00:09:25.669 --> 00:09:28.730 one Motley Crue tour with Samantha Maloney on 00:09:28.730 --> 00:09:31.110 drums as well. So all around, it was kind of 00:09:31.110 --> 00:09:36.330 a weird lineup there. And Petrelli, both Petrelli 00:09:36.330 --> 00:09:40.289 and DeGrasso were great players. And DeGrasso 00:09:40.289 --> 00:09:43.470 left Suicidal Tendencies to join Megadeth because 00:09:43.470 --> 00:09:47.250 he had played with Dave and MD -45, which was 00:09:47.250 --> 00:09:51.350 a side project that he'd put together with Leaving 00:09:51.350 --> 00:09:59.179 of Fear. Um, the fourth component was Kelly Lemieux. 00:09:59.299 --> 00:10:01.740 I forget what band he had played in and he'd 00:10:01.740 --> 00:10:04.340 played in a bunch of other like death metal bands 00:10:04.340 --> 00:10:11.000 after that. But anyway, um, want to say hello 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:14.259 to Tony who is in the, uh, in the chat, Tony 00:10:14.259 --> 00:10:17.179 Espin. Thank you for joining us tonight. Uh, 00:10:17.279 --> 00:10:21.779 all right. So moving on here at 15. This is possibly 00:10:21.779 --> 00:10:24.580 my least favorite album, but a few people voted 00:10:24.580 --> 00:10:29.059 for this one. It's Risk. Yeah, that should have 00:10:29.059 --> 00:10:31.399 been at 17. I don't know if you saw me give a 00:10:31.399 --> 00:10:35.740 face when you said Super Collider. I can't believe 00:10:35.740 --> 00:10:38.240 that people think Super Collider is worse than 00:10:38.240 --> 00:10:43.740 Risk. That's kind of strange. A lot of people 00:10:43.740 --> 00:10:48.580 dislike Super Collider because it's more of, 00:10:48.600 --> 00:10:53.250 I mean. The title track is more straight -up 00:10:53.250 --> 00:11:00.789 hard rock. There's another track on that album 00:11:00.789 --> 00:11:04.490 called Burn, which I think is pretty good, where 00:11:04.490 --> 00:11:09.090 Chris Broderick is shredding all over the place. 00:11:09.750 --> 00:11:13.809 That album, people seem to judge that whole record 00:11:13.809 --> 00:11:17.110 by the song Super Collider. Right. If he had 00:11:17.110 --> 00:11:19.409 just put that on and... you know a single or 00:11:19.409 --> 00:11:22.570 something outside of that record all those other 00:11:22.570 --> 00:11:25.870 uh songs are heavy some of them are thrash metal 00:11:25.870 --> 00:11:28.629 and you got you know chris broderick doing his 00:11:28.629 --> 00:11:32.669 work on it it's an awesome record uh and then 00:11:32.669 --> 00:11:35.830 they also did the uh cover didn't they for yeah 00:11:35.830 --> 00:11:39.490 i can't remember the cover which one a cold sweat 00:11:39.490 --> 00:11:42.570 from yeah see that was a great cover too that's 00:11:42.570 --> 00:11:45.049 in risk when i was listening to risk today my 00:11:45.049 --> 00:11:48.389 first my thoughts were how terrible the even 00:11:48.389 --> 00:11:50.730 the guitar tones were. I mean, it was everything 00:11:50.730 --> 00:11:54.649 about it was awful, except for one song, Breadline. 00:11:55.070 --> 00:11:58.570 He sometimes can write a really good song like 00:11:58.570 --> 00:12:00.629 Breadline or Super Collider. It's like a great, 00:12:00.649 --> 00:12:04.509 you know, 70s, 80s sounding hard rock song with 00:12:04.509 --> 00:12:08.389 a good melody. It's not that bad. People are 00:12:08.389 --> 00:12:10.529 just kind of, they're just, I mean, and I get 00:12:10.529 --> 00:12:12.389 it, you know, I get pissed off when my bands 00:12:12.389 --> 00:12:14.549 do stuff like that too, when I'm expecting a 00:12:14.549 --> 00:12:18.440 thrash metal song. Yeah, I think people get too 00:12:18.440 --> 00:12:21.320 judgy on that one, and Risk is at the bottom, 00:12:21.419 --> 00:12:25.720 everyone. Yeah, Breadline was the single off 00:12:25.720 --> 00:12:33.759 of that one. The thing there, or the one thing 00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:35.940 that I really noticed that I think you don't 00:12:35.940 --> 00:12:39.220 get from other bands is how different the guitar 00:12:39.220 --> 00:12:42.019 tone is from one album to another with Megadeth. 00:12:42.600 --> 00:12:44.899 Yeah, that's something I can talk about a bit 00:12:44.899 --> 00:12:49.250 along the way. Yeah. Yeah. Anthony saying that 00:12:49.250 --> 00:12:51.669 his connection is better through YouTube. Anthony, 00:12:51.769 --> 00:12:55.330 I, I'm, I'm guessing that with the video where 00:12:55.330 --> 00:12:59.230 you're connecting, it just probably isn't allowing 00:12:59.230 --> 00:13:01.730 you to connect. This has been pretty finicky 00:13:01.730 --> 00:13:04.389 the last few weeks, even with some of the interviews 00:13:04.389 --> 00:13:08.389 that I've done where there's been a lot of like 00:13:08.389 --> 00:13:12.269 frozen frames and stuff like that. But anyway, 00:13:12.289 --> 00:13:14.789 everyone type in your thoughts since I'm here. 00:13:15.029 --> 00:13:18.519 Yeah. I've got lots to say about Megadeth, so 00:13:18.519 --> 00:13:23.399 this is a good time to be by myself. Add some 00:13:23.399 --> 00:13:29.960 gasoline to Ed's fire there. That's right. 14 00:13:29.960 --> 00:13:38.299 is the album 13 by the band. Not one of my favorites. 00:13:38.399 --> 00:13:42.440 I think this was the one where Ellefson came 00:13:42.440 --> 00:13:48.399 back. I'm not mistaken. Yes. And I don't know, 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:52.899 this album left me kind of indifferent. Like, 00:13:52.899 --> 00:13:56.320 it's OK. It has some cool tracks on it. Exactly. 00:13:56.559 --> 00:14:01.500 But it like a lot of it is just. It's kind of 00:14:01.500 --> 00:14:05.639 blah. Yeah, it feels like a bunch of miscellaneous 00:14:05.639 --> 00:14:13.320 tracks. I think they came out of. And the other 00:14:13.320 --> 00:14:16.740 thing, too, is that like. They had Black Swan 00:14:16.740 --> 00:14:20.799 on this, which was a B -side to United Abominations. 00:14:21.980 --> 00:14:26.360 That's right. That on United Abominations wasn't 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:31.340 bad. It was actually a decent song, and here 00:14:31.340 --> 00:14:34.039 they kind of slow it down, and it's just different. 00:14:34.580 --> 00:14:37.100 And New World Order, I think, was a leftover 00:14:37.100 --> 00:14:40.620 of something that they had done with the Rust 00:14:40.620 --> 00:14:43.559 and Beast lineup, because the credits have Nick 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:47.309 Menza. on lyrics and it has marty friedman on 00:14:47.309 --> 00:14:50.649 for for music so again that that kind of lends 00:14:50.649 --> 00:14:54.169 itself to what you're saying that it um that 00:14:54.169 --> 00:14:57.330 it's a collection of just loose tracks except 00:14:57.330 --> 00:15:01.330 they did it starts off great though sudden death 00:15:01.330 --> 00:15:04.090 awesome tune yeah like that would be on your 00:15:04.090 --> 00:15:07.250 best of megadeth list that tune there and that's 00:15:07.250 --> 00:15:11.730 the one that ended up in uh the the guitar game 00:15:11.730 --> 00:15:15.960 right I got it. What was that guitar? Guitar 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:17.740 Hero? The guitar game that was so popular back 00:15:17.740 --> 00:15:21.639 then. Guitar Hero or Rock Band? Guitar Hero. 00:15:21.940 --> 00:15:24.720 Yeah, they did Sudden Death for that. That was 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:27.980 like the main challenge. And Public Enemy No. 00:15:28.179 --> 00:15:31.399 1 is a good song. But yeah, after that, it starts 00:15:31.399 --> 00:15:35.019 to become kind of... The songs don't flow from 00:15:35.019 --> 00:15:38.019 one to the next. Right. And so it's kind of a 00:15:38.019 --> 00:15:42.740 disappointment from Endgame. I think, you know, 00:15:42.799 --> 00:15:45.419 the other thing, too, is it was a weird selection 00:15:45.419 --> 00:15:47.700 of producers here because they got Johnny K, 00:15:47.940 --> 00:15:50.799 who's most known for working with Disturbed, 00:15:50.840 --> 00:15:54.919 for example. And and from the get go, when I 00:15:54.919 --> 00:15:56.919 heard that, I was like, seriously, I mean, that 00:15:56.919 --> 00:16:01.679 just kind of doesn't fit. You know, after having 00:16:01.679 --> 00:16:05.259 worked with some other. Really good producers. 00:16:06.320 --> 00:16:08.759 Maybe that was what the problem was with that 00:16:08.759 --> 00:16:12.980 one. Could be. He didn't have the right people 00:16:12.980 --> 00:16:19.220 to sound off of. Yeah. But, you know, it had 00:16:19.220 --> 00:16:22.399 Chris Broderick in there. Yeah. And, of course, 00:16:22.419 --> 00:16:25.320 Sean Drover and Elvison, you know, it's always 00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:27.220 a treat to sit down and listen to them play anyway. 00:16:30.279 --> 00:16:34.000 Trying to figure out what led before this. Yeah, 00:16:34.059 --> 00:16:39.240 see, okay. So. I'll bring up a point that I was 00:16:39.240 --> 00:16:41.200 just going to mention a little bit later on. 00:16:43.240 --> 00:16:48.000 All right, so at 13 is the EP Hidden Treasures, 00:16:48.059 --> 00:16:52.539 which I played the crap out of that when it came 00:16:52.539 --> 00:16:59.139 out. Because it had a bunch of stuff that was 00:16:59.139 --> 00:17:02.759 floating around that was kind of nowhere else. 00:17:03.360 --> 00:17:05.720 Well, actually, it was in a few different places. 00:17:05.740 --> 00:17:07.599 I guess No More than Mr. Nice Guy was on the 00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:11.279 Shocker soundtrack. Breakpoint seems to be on 00:17:11.279 --> 00:17:13.559 the Super Mario Brothers soundtrack. Go to Hell 00:17:13.559 --> 00:17:17.920 I had on the Bill and Ted soundtrack. Angry Again 00:17:17.920 --> 00:17:21.700 is on Last Action Hero, 99 Ways to Die. It's 00:17:21.700 --> 00:17:24.180 on the Beavis and Butthead Experience. Then Paranoid 00:17:24.180 --> 00:17:30.130 is on the Nativity and Black Tribute. D at M's, 00:17:30.130 --> 00:17:32.170 which looks like is on the Demon Knight soundtrack. 00:17:32.450 --> 00:17:34.849 That's my favorite song off of it. And then last 00:17:34.849 --> 00:17:41.269 is a Sex Pistols cover, which is Problems. And 00:17:41.269 --> 00:17:45.430 it looks like the Japanese edition had a bunch 00:17:45.430 --> 00:17:48.849 of demos on it. Yeah, see? So it has New World 00:17:48.849 --> 00:17:54.509 Order, which ends up later on on 13. Yeah, see, 00:17:54.569 --> 00:17:59.819 that's another one. Boom. Interesting. I thought 00:17:59.819 --> 00:18:02.420 it was cool that a few people voted for the CP. 00:18:04.099 --> 00:18:09.420 Yeah. All right. So at 12, is their latest album, 00:18:09.619 --> 00:18:14.539 The Sick, The Dying, and The Dead? No way. That 00:18:14.539 --> 00:18:18.460 works. That's one that you really liked. Yeah. 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:21.359 It's really high up on my list, which I was hoping 00:18:21.359 --> 00:18:25.930 would push it into the top 10 slide. Man, that 00:18:25.930 --> 00:18:28.609 tune will be back. I still can't get enough of 00:18:28.609 --> 00:18:31.630 that song. I have to listen to it all the time. 00:18:31.750 --> 00:18:34.049 I mean, the other day you were asking what songs 00:18:34.049 --> 00:18:36.710 get our adrenaline going. Right. What we listen 00:18:36.710 --> 00:18:38.670 to when we need something to pick us up. That 00:18:38.670 --> 00:18:41.630 tune does it every time. And it's become one 00:18:41.630 --> 00:18:45.569 of my favorite guitar jams, too. It's just fun 00:18:45.569 --> 00:18:50.390 to play. But that whole album has got great tunes. 00:18:50.630 --> 00:18:53.730 And, you know, the guitar solos are awesome. 00:18:55.049 --> 00:18:58.490 Good production, the tone. It's just, yeah, I 00:18:58.490 --> 00:19:00.190 don't understand why people don't like it more 00:19:00.190 --> 00:19:06.349 than they do. Yeah, I don't know if that's a 00:19:06.349 --> 00:19:08.589 case of people just not checking the album out, 00:19:08.670 --> 00:19:11.809 maybe. Because with a lot of the people that 00:19:11.809 --> 00:19:16.170 submitted lists, or not a lot, a few, kind of 00:19:16.170 --> 00:19:21.750 went with everything before Risk and then didn't 00:19:21.750 --> 00:19:24.769 give me like a full 10. There are others that 00:19:24.769 --> 00:19:29.990 just for like the first three, four albums. So 00:19:29.990 --> 00:19:31.750 there were a lot of people that I think just 00:19:31.750 --> 00:19:35.130 haven't checked this album out. It's got a lot 00:19:35.130 --> 00:19:37.869 of good tunes. Everyone go and sit down and listen 00:19:37.869 --> 00:19:44.650 to it. Um, you'll be happy. You did. So at 11, 00:19:44.869 --> 00:19:51.109 we have, and this album, part of the reason why 00:19:51.109 --> 00:19:54.509 it was better than 13, this is, his end game, 00:19:54.630 --> 00:19:57.089 is because he had Andy Sneap producing this one. 00:19:57.210 --> 00:20:02.349 Andy Sneap produced two straight album. And I 00:20:02.349 --> 00:20:08.569 think this album, which had Broderick on it, 00:20:08.609 --> 00:20:13.130 had James Lomenzo on bass, had Sean Drover on 00:20:13.130 --> 00:20:16.430 drums. I mean, This Day We Fight is a great track. 00:20:16.589 --> 00:20:20.529 44 Minutes is a great track. 1320 is a great 00:20:20.529 --> 00:20:24.529 track. Head Crusher's a really good track as 00:20:24.529 --> 00:20:28.369 well. Head Crusher's my favorite tune. That's 00:20:28.369 --> 00:20:30.410 another great guitar jam right there because 00:20:30.410 --> 00:20:33.670 it's got a midsection that gets your head banging. 00:20:34.230 --> 00:20:36.930 Yeah. And this is the album that Chris came on, 00:20:37.069 --> 00:20:42.490 Megadeth. Yeah. Yeah, and this is, of course, 00:20:42.490 --> 00:20:45.609 the album where Dave says, well, he's the best 00:20:45.609 --> 00:20:50.069 guitarist we've ever had. Everyone's the greatest. 00:20:50.890 --> 00:20:58.720 Yeah. Until they leave the band. That's right. 00:20:59.140 --> 00:21:02.759 How many members of Megadeth have actually been 00:21:02.759 --> 00:21:06.259 fired? David Elveson was fired. But think of 00:21:06.259 --> 00:21:08.380 that. With the revolving door that the band has 00:21:08.380 --> 00:21:13.799 had, how many people have actually been fired 00:21:13.799 --> 00:21:15.940 and not quit? Because most have quit the band. 00:21:16.660 --> 00:21:20.039 Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure most people can only handle 00:21:20.039 --> 00:21:25.380 so much of Dave. need to move on yeah which is 00:21:25.380 --> 00:21:28.819 fine i mean we keep getting good stuff and and 00:21:28.819 --> 00:21:35.099 that that album to me that album was uh exciting 00:21:35.099 --> 00:21:37.599 to hear you know as far especially because the 00:21:37.599 --> 00:21:40.599 production was a big step up from yeah the last 00:21:40.599 --> 00:21:46.619 two records which i also liked a lot but um You 00:21:46.619 --> 00:21:49.460 know, in the early 90s, I started becoming kind 00:21:49.460 --> 00:21:51.799 of disappointed in their tone and for a long 00:21:51.799 --> 00:21:55.400 time didn't like it. But this is when they really 00:21:55.400 --> 00:22:00.200 came back into a tone that grabs me in. And they 00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:04.200 kind of built upon that since then, I think. 00:22:06.599 --> 00:22:09.440 All right. So we're going to get into the top 00:22:09.440 --> 00:22:13.700 10 here. See if we can stump Ed with some of 00:22:13.700 --> 00:22:20.019 these. Music samples. And I'm the only one here. 00:22:20.519 --> 00:22:23.140 You're the only one here. Last time around, Metal 00:22:23.140 --> 00:22:26.299 Dan was real quick with most of these. Yeah, 00:22:26.319 --> 00:22:30.079 where is he at? Good question. Seems like everyone's 00:22:30.079 --> 00:22:34.940 on vacation except for us. So, all right, number 00:22:34.940 --> 00:22:48.500 10. Number 10. That's United Abominations. You 00:22:48.500 --> 00:22:50.019 are correct. That's one of my favorite tracks 00:22:50.019 --> 00:22:54.559 off of that record, too. I love this album. I 00:22:54.559 --> 00:22:59.500 do, too. This was my number three, to be honest. 00:22:59.599 --> 00:23:01.960 Is it number three? Yeah, this is my number three. 00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:05.319 I don't think that there's a bad track. Well, 00:23:05.539 --> 00:23:08.200 all right. So towards the end, it gets kind of 00:23:08.200 --> 00:23:11.960 wishy -washy. But Sleepwalker, Washington's Next, 00:23:12.339 --> 00:23:16.019 Never Walk Alone, A Call to Arms, United Abominations, 00:23:16.099 --> 00:23:21.299 Gears of War. bless her dead play for blood um 00:23:21.299 --> 00:23:27.339 a two lemon i can take it or leave it the problem 00:23:27.339 --> 00:23:30.220 with that is we have an i an ipod still in our 00:23:30.220 --> 00:23:34.019 car so if it resets itself the first track to 00:23:34.019 --> 00:23:37.980 always come on is a two lemon me so i've heard 00:23:37.980 --> 00:23:40.200 it a thousand times now yeah so it's one of those 00:23:40.200 --> 00:23:43.519 things are all right today i like this version 00:23:43.519 --> 00:23:46.930 though a lot with christina She sounds great 00:23:46.930 --> 00:23:49.190 on it, and I like the way they sped it up some. 00:23:49.829 --> 00:23:53.269 I think that added to the emotion of the tune 00:23:53.269 --> 00:23:57.089 and the story being told there. Yeah, I agree. 00:23:57.769 --> 00:23:59.650 Yeah, all those songs you mentioned are great. 00:24:00.349 --> 00:24:03.829 Sleepwalker's another great guitar jam, and I 00:24:03.829 --> 00:24:07.390 love that. Yeah, Never Walk Alone. All those 00:24:07.390 --> 00:24:12.910 tunes. The only thing that I didn't like as much 00:24:12.910 --> 00:24:18.200 about this record was... Glenn Drover, not that 00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:22.559 he's not an awesome guitar player, but his style 00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:26.660 was the one that fit the least with Dave's style, 00:24:26.859 --> 00:24:30.000 in my opinion. When you listen to the two going 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:33.940 back and forth, the way Al plays is so strikingly 00:24:33.940 --> 00:24:37.779 different than Dave's that it kind of doesn't 00:24:37.779 --> 00:24:43.259 sound like Megadeth always. So I wasn't sad when... 00:24:44.220 --> 00:24:49.420 he wasn't on the next record. Yeah. And he's 00:24:49.420 --> 00:24:51.380 still great. And all the songs are great. And 00:24:51.380 --> 00:24:53.599 the solos are great. I'm not trying to say anything 00:24:53.599 --> 00:24:57.759 negative about his talent or who he is. Yeah. 00:24:57.940 --> 00:25:01.059 Well, he, he co -wrote never walk alone. Glenn 00:25:01.059 --> 00:25:04.519 drover did actually. Yeah, he did. Yeah. And 00:25:04.519 --> 00:25:10.240 then, um, there's, uh, they cover out on tiles 00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:14.609 from Led Zeppelin. And I remember when this album 00:25:14.609 --> 00:25:18.150 came out, Dave said that he was a bigger Jimmy 00:25:18.150 --> 00:25:21.509 Page fan than he was a Tony Iommi fan. And I 00:25:21.509 --> 00:25:23.730 remember at the time people were like kind of 00:25:23.730 --> 00:25:26.670 going apeshit over that, but it kind of makes 00:25:26.670 --> 00:25:32.089 sense. You know, the way that he plays, it isn't 00:25:32.089 --> 00:25:34.789 straight up, you know, just chords like Tony 00:25:34.789 --> 00:25:39.789 Iommi. So I get it. Yeah. All right. I'm glad 00:25:39.789 --> 00:25:43.460 this one made the top 10. Yeah, me too. All right. 00:25:44.660 --> 00:25:51.460 Number nine. The system has failed. It is the 00:25:51.460 --> 00:25:56.119 system has failed. That is pull the chair. And 00:25:56.119 --> 00:25:58.980 the system has failed. Came out on September 00:25:58.980 --> 00:26:04.859 14th, 2004. Was recorded between October 23rd 00:26:04.859 --> 00:26:09.519 and April 9th. Actually, October 23rd, 2003 and 00:26:09.519 --> 00:26:14.730 April 9th. recorded in a bunch of different places 00:26:14.730 --> 00:26:21.809 in Nashville and in Tempe, Arizona. It's interesting 00:26:21.809 --> 00:26:26.230 because this was supposed to be, I guess, a Dave 00:26:26.230 --> 00:26:31.609 solo album at one point. And it kind of set the 00:26:31.609 --> 00:26:35.089 tone because I remember at the time, if you look 00:26:35.089 --> 00:26:38.869 at, for the most part, Megadeth has always had 00:26:38.869 --> 00:26:43.990 like, a lineup that's lasted a few albums where 00:26:43.990 --> 00:26:48.849 so far, so good. So what? And the world needs 00:26:48.849 --> 00:26:50.910 a hero. We're kind of anomalies where you had 00:26:50.910 --> 00:26:53.769 those lineups for just one album. You either 00:26:53.769 --> 00:26:57.170 had, you know, the lineup with, uh, with car 00:26:57.170 --> 00:27:00.230 and Chris Poland last a few albums. Then you 00:27:00.230 --> 00:27:03.069 had obviously the rest in peace lineup last quite 00:27:03.069 --> 00:27:08.609 a few albums. And then. this happens and it's 00:27:08.609 --> 00:27:13.250 a completely different band. Yes. And a lot of 00:27:13.250 --> 00:27:20.910 people at the time didn't, didn't, didn't kind 00:27:20.910 --> 00:27:26.369 of, I don't know if, if, if they didn't get the 00:27:26.369 --> 00:27:30.049 album because it didn't have Elfson and some 00:27:30.049 --> 00:27:33.109 of the other people that were, you know, known 00:27:33.109 --> 00:27:35.920 for being in Megadeth, but. I mean, you had Chris 00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:40.559 Poland on a few tracks. You also had, you know, 00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:44.200 for the most part, kind of an all -star lineup 00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:50.019 here because you had Jimmy Sloas on bass. I hope 00:27:50.019 --> 00:27:52.579 I'm pronouncing that correctly, who was a big 00:27:52.579 --> 00:27:56.259 -time Sessions musician, and Vinnie Caliuta. 00:27:56.519 --> 00:28:00.400 Same thing. David has talked in interviews about 00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:03.259 the fact that he wanted to work with Vinnie for 00:28:03.259 --> 00:28:06.599 the longest time. but kind of couldn't figure 00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:09.140 out how to make him fit in Megadeth because ultimately 00:28:09.140 --> 00:28:12.460 he's more known for jazz fusion and stuff like 00:28:12.460 --> 00:28:15.079 that. But they felt that he was a monster player 00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:19.140 that he wanted to integrate somehow. So, uh, 00:28:19.279 --> 00:28:22.240 yeah, well, it worked out great. Uh, for me, 00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:26.759 I was so happy when I heard this record, cause 00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:30.420 you know, I had given up on Megadeth through 00:28:30.420 --> 00:28:33.480 the nineties, early two thousands. And, but I, 00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:36.180 Went and bought this record as soon as I heard 00:28:36.180 --> 00:28:38.640 that Chris Poland was playing guitar on this 00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:42.180 one. Which, you know, what a great matchup, I 00:28:42.180 --> 00:28:46.559 guess, with Vinny, I think. And Chris Poland 00:28:46.559 --> 00:28:50.119 is my favorite player to be playing with Mustaine 00:28:50.119 --> 00:28:53.059 as far as how their styles fit together. And, 00:28:53.059 --> 00:28:57.440 yeah, to have that cast of characters and then 00:28:57.440 --> 00:29:00.619 to put on that record and to hear the Megadeth 00:29:00.619 --> 00:29:03.960 thrash metal sound. Again, right off the bat 00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:08.779 with the first song. Oh, I was so happy. I was 00:29:08.779 --> 00:29:11.680 going on a trip to Gatlinburg, Tennessee when 00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:14.140 I bought it. So I spent that whole trip listening 00:29:14.140 --> 00:29:17.740 to this album. Blackmail the Universe is probably 00:29:17.740 --> 00:29:20.440 my favorite tune. That's another great guitar 00:29:20.440 --> 00:29:26.059 jam. And then I also, being a Christian man, 00:29:26.220 --> 00:29:30.380 I loved his version of Psalm 23. That was a cool. 00:29:30.940 --> 00:29:36.200 heavy version for him to uh you know recite that 00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:39.500 song over and uh you know there's been other 00:29:39.500 --> 00:29:41.680 christian metal bands that have done versions 00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:44.380 of that but i think they did the best one i've 00:29:44.380 --> 00:29:47.480 heard uh so i was really happy with this record 00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:50.339 especially with chris poland and i'm i'm kind 00:29:50.339 --> 00:29:52.640 of sorry he couldn't uh do another record or 00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:58.190 two with him after this yeah he played Does lead 00:29:58.190 --> 00:30:01.789 on all tracks except for I Know Jack, Truth Be 00:30:01.789 --> 00:30:06.910 Told, and The Scorpion. Yeah, there's lots of 00:30:06.910 --> 00:30:09.890 great thrash metal tunes on that record. That's 00:30:09.890 --> 00:30:12.029 one that people should revisit if they haven't 00:30:12.029 --> 00:30:18.490 given it, you know, much attention. Okay. Let's 00:30:18.490 --> 00:30:26.400 move on here. Number eight. Okay, that's coming 00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:28.180 off of one of the records I don't listen to. 00:30:30.259 --> 00:30:33.640 So I'm going to say, we already picked World 00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:36.619 Needs a Hero. It's got to be Cryptic Writings. 00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:42.160 Yeah? It is indeed Cryptic Writings, released 00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:47.799 on June 17th, 1997. You can tell from the tone 00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:51.480 of that guitar. Right. That's one of the things 00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:55.039 I was alluding to before. You can really tell 00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:59.299 the guitar tones from album to album kind of 00:30:59.299 --> 00:31:03.799 place where certain tracks come from. And I like 00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:06.559 what I heard on that better than both euthanasia 00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:09.720 and risk. So maybe I should go listen to that 00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:13.660 record again. Yeah, this. All right. So let me 00:31:13.660 --> 00:31:16.579 give some of the details first and I'll get into 00:31:16.579 --> 00:31:19.940 it. So this was recorded at a tracking room in 00:31:19.940 --> 00:31:22.599 Nashville and the castle in Franklin, Tennessee. 00:31:23.420 --> 00:31:28.779 It was recorded by Dan Huff, who's known for 00:31:28.779 --> 00:31:36.519 being a real melodic rock player and singer. 00:31:37.099 --> 00:31:40.460 And he was the lead singer and guitarist of a 00:31:40.460 --> 00:31:43.240 band called Giant. His brother was the drummer. 00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:46.039 They just released a new album. He's no longer 00:31:46.039 --> 00:31:49.480 in the band. He writes a lot of stuff for other 00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:53.470 artists and he produces a lot of stuff. So the 00:31:53.470 --> 00:31:56.329 singles off of this track or off of this album, 00:31:56.390 --> 00:32:01.490 excuse me, are Trust, Almost Honest, Use the 00:32:01.490 --> 00:32:08.789 Man, and A Secret Place. And, all right, so this 00:32:08.789 --> 00:32:16.529 is an album that when I got it, it took me a 00:32:16.529 --> 00:32:19.589 little while to get into it because of the fact 00:32:19.589 --> 00:32:23.720 that it was so different. To everything they 00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:26.460 had done before. Especially those singles. Trust. 00:32:27.619 --> 00:32:36.400 Almost Honest. And A Secret Place. They're. They're 00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:41.059 heavy songs. But they're. Kind of depressing 00:32:41.059 --> 00:32:45.579 songs. Like they're. Not to say that Megadeth 00:32:45.579 --> 00:32:51.519 is. Happy music. But it's. More on the side of 00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:55.819 being. a little darker. So, so yeah, so it has 00:32:55.819 --> 00:32:59.140 some, some, some ingredients that you can find 00:32:59.140 --> 00:33:03.119 like on euthanasia and on countdown, but it's, 00:33:03.119 --> 00:33:06.859 but the riffs are darker. They're, they're coming 00:33:06.859 --> 00:33:10.539 from a different place is, is what I'm trying 00:33:10.539 --> 00:33:16.480 to get at. And I like, I like those. I mean, 00:33:16.500 --> 00:33:22.380 three of those four singles, but the, The sample 00:33:22.380 --> 00:33:25.019 that I used is from the last track, which is 00:33:25.019 --> 00:33:29.440 FFF, which is the thrashiest thing on here. Vortex 00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:34.420 is pretty thrashy. And She -Wolf is a track that 00:33:34.420 --> 00:33:38.319 they've played a lot in concert. That one and 00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:42.519 Trust. I'm kind of tired of hearing those. I 00:33:42.519 --> 00:33:45.319 want them to replace those with a couple of thrash 00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:49.900 metal tunes. Yeah. I understand that's what a 00:33:49.900 --> 00:33:54.759 lot of people like. But see, I don't know if 00:33:54.759 --> 00:34:00.880 it's more so that it's what other people like 00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:05.599 or if it's what Dave likes. Yeah, well, yeah, 00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:08.960 that's probably a lot of it, too. Those tunes 00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:12.300 are probably a break between the tougher songs. 00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:14.920 It could be. When they're up on stage, you know, 00:34:14.940 --> 00:34:23.480 physically. Yeah, it could be because, I mean, 00:34:23.539 --> 00:34:25.760 and even, let's see, the Disintegrators is a 00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:28.260 track that I used to listen to quite a bit back 00:34:28.260 --> 00:34:31.139 in the day. That's a thrashier track as well. 00:34:32.059 --> 00:34:35.659 It makes me depressed when I hear Jeremy say 00:34:35.659 --> 00:34:38.440 that he saw Megadeth a couple times and was bored 00:34:38.440 --> 00:34:41.920 as hell both times. And I just keep thinking, 00:34:41.960 --> 00:34:44.380 man, if Dave would let me help him with that 00:34:44.380 --> 00:34:48.349 playlist a little. like i just mentioned jeremy 00:34:48.349 --> 00:34:53.130 would have a good time yeah i don't i don't one 00:34:53.130 --> 00:34:55.070 of the things that bugs me about them and i've 00:34:55.070 --> 00:34:57.489 they're one of the bands i've seen the most live 00:34:57.489 --> 00:35:00.849 but after he came back with the system has failed 00:35:00.849 --> 00:35:06.289 yeah they have this kind of dress code where 00:35:06.289 --> 00:35:09.010 they all look like waiters on stage they're wearing 00:35:09.010 --> 00:35:14.630 you know buttoned down white shirts yeah And, 00:35:14.630 --> 00:35:19.130 and Black Slacks and it's, you're a thrash band, 00:35:19.289 --> 00:35:25.110 you know? Yeah. Even, even, even Metallica to 00:35:25.110 --> 00:35:27.630 today is still wearing t -shirts and jeans or 00:35:27.630 --> 00:35:32.050 even James now is wearing some like, the pants 00:35:32.050 --> 00:35:33.929 he's wearing looks more like he should be in 00:35:33.929 --> 00:35:37.949 a Western than up on stage. Yeah. It still kind 00:35:37.949 --> 00:35:41.909 of fits more what they're doing than. a button 00:35:41.909 --> 00:35:44.650 down white shirt where I'm waiting for them to 00:35:44.650 --> 00:35:46.409 come over with a tray and give you an hors d 00:35:46.409 --> 00:35:52.190 'oeuvre than, than to bust out some, some spider 00:35:52.190 --> 00:36:00.210 cords, you know? So, um, I, I think the album, 00:36:00.289 --> 00:36:03.989 like I said, the album isn't for everybody. I 00:36:03.989 --> 00:36:06.469 think half of it is really good. There are some 00:36:06.469 --> 00:36:10.610 tracks that I've never kind of cared for. And 00:36:10.610 --> 00:36:12.510 I get it. Some of these songs have been on the 00:36:12.510 --> 00:36:17.469 radio quite a bit. So if those tracks, if you're 00:36:17.469 --> 00:36:19.849 not into them, you're still not going to get 00:36:19.849 --> 00:36:25.809 into them now. Yeah. All right. Moving on. Number 00:36:25.809 --> 00:36:35.650 seven. That's dystopia. You were scared you weren't 00:36:35.650 --> 00:36:40.210 going to be getting these. Yeah, I was. Love 00:36:40.210 --> 00:36:48.369 this record. All right. So released on January 00:36:48.369 --> 00:36:54.550 22nd, 2016. Recorded between April and July 2015. 00:36:55.429 --> 00:37:04.989 Was recorded in Leapers Fork, Tennessee. Recorded 00:37:04.989 --> 00:37:11.050 by Dave Mustaine and Chris. Rake Straw. Singles 00:37:11.050 --> 00:37:13.349 off of this album are Fatal Illusion, The Thread 00:37:13.349 --> 00:37:15.929 is Real, the track you just heard a sample from, 00:37:16.030 --> 00:37:21.369 Dystopia, and Post -American World. This is the 00:37:21.369 --> 00:37:29.289 only album to feature Kiko on guitars and Chris 00:37:29.289 --> 00:37:37.079 Adler from Lamb of God on drums. There were a 00:37:37.079 --> 00:37:42.460 few guest appearances on here. You mean the only 00:37:42.460 --> 00:37:45.659 album with Kiko and Chris together, right? Yes, 00:37:45.659 --> 00:37:50.619 yes, yes, yes. It was a good combination, though. 00:37:51.159 --> 00:37:55.260 Yeah, Chris plays... I think he might play something 00:37:55.260 --> 00:37:59.500 on Endgame, if I'm not mistaken. I can't remember. 00:38:01.159 --> 00:38:03.260 But go ahead, what are your thoughts on this 00:38:03.260 --> 00:38:10.750 one? But this is my next favorite of the newer 00:38:10.750 --> 00:38:14.670 records, you know, besides The Sick, The Dying, 00:38:14.670 --> 00:38:19.030 The Dead. Great. This one is a good mix of both 00:38:19.030 --> 00:38:21.289 heavy metal and thrash metal tunes, you know, 00:38:21.309 --> 00:38:27.289 which Dave seems to do a lot. And it's got a 00:38:27.289 --> 00:38:29.969 great production. It's even better than Endgame 00:38:29.969 --> 00:38:34.760 and what came before it. Kiko's first. album 00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:37.199 recording with Megadeth, and I was just blown 00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:40.980 away getting to know Kikos playing through this 00:38:40.980 --> 00:38:45.320 record. Love, Fatal Illusion, that's a great 00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:47.980 guitar jam. A couple other tracks that I play 00:38:47.980 --> 00:38:51.760 a lot, Post -American World. Post -American World 00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:56.179 has this awesome, just good old -fashioned heavy 00:38:56.179 --> 00:39:00.079 metal, Metallica, Megadeth riff that you listen 00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:04.210 to and you think, how has nobody else? come up 00:39:04.210 --> 00:39:06.789 with that before because it's so simple but it's 00:39:06.789 --> 00:39:10.190 so heavy and it's got a great groovy jug gets 00:39:10.190 --> 00:39:14.349 your head banging um and then uh the one after 00:39:14.349 --> 00:39:18.369 that poisonous shadows that's got um really fun 00:39:18.369 --> 00:39:21.969 guitar riff in it and a good melody all the songs 00:39:21.969 --> 00:39:26.730 on this record have good melodies um there's 00:39:26.730 --> 00:39:30.670 nothing The only thing that I maybe don't care 00:39:30.670 --> 00:39:33.110 so much for is the Emperor. On a lot of these 00:39:33.110 --> 00:39:35.710 records, some of the tunes that I end up not 00:39:35.710 --> 00:39:38.030 caring so much for is when he does those little 00:39:38.030 --> 00:39:41.889 talking bits over things. Dave, I know you're 00:39:41.889 --> 00:39:44.449 listening. As you're recording this new record, 00:39:44.809 --> 00:39:47.329 please, you can just continue doing that. We 00:39:47.329 --> 00:39:49.530 don't need that anymore. If you have to do a 00:39:49.530 --> 00:39:51.949 talking bit, bring somebody else in that doesn't 00:39:51.949 --> 00:39:55.429 sound as creepy as you do at your age now. I 00:39:55.429 --> 00:39:58.219 think it'd be better to... And start doing away 00:39:58.219 --> 00:40:01.099 with that. I don't know. He seems to like throwing 00:40:01.099 --> 00:40:03.800 that into a lot of tunes and he does that some 00:40:03.800 --> 00:40:06.940 on this album too. But yeah, this is another 00:40:06.940 --> 00:40:09.880 record. I think that if you've passed it over, 00:40:09.940 --> 00:40:12.960 you should put it on and listen to again. And 00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:15.840 if you're a guitar player, I don't know how you 00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:18.500 can't love songs like fatal illusion. It's just, 00:40:18.519 --> 00:40:26.130 it's fun. Yeah. I'm not a fan of. Dave's talking 00:40:26.130 --> 00:40:30.510 bit as well. When I was looking at United Abominations, 00:40:30.510 --> 00:40:35.929 when it gets to, um, uh, America Stan, I think 00:40:35.929 --> 00:40:37.570 is what it's called. He does a big bit in there 00:40:37.570 --> 00:40:40.010 too. He does. Well, that song is like seven minutes 00:40:40.010 --> 00:40:42.550 long and he talks through like five minutes of 00:40:42.550 --> 00:40:45.449 that song. Yeah. It's just too much. It's yeah. 00:40:46.210 --> 00:40:48.429 Yeah. He needs to bring somebody like Christina 00:40:48.429 --> 00:40:51.010 back in. If he needs to do a talking bit, you 00:40:51.010 --> 00:40:54.289 know, somebody that makes it interesting. Yeah. 00:40:56.360 --> 00:41:06.300 Yeah. All right. Number six. That's tough there. 00:41:08.099 --> 00:41:16.159 Man. I didn't catch the tone on that one. I can't 00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:25.699 believe it. Number six. I'm wanting to say. Euthanasia. 00:41:25.699 --> 00:41:28.019 But I feel like euthanasia has a muddier sound 00:41:28.019 --> 00:41:34.960 than that. It is euthanasia. Oh, okay. All right. 00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:41.400 Yay. I'm still 100%. Euthanasia actually has... 00:41:41.400 --> 00:41:43.699 Which song was that? You just tracked that off. 00:41:43.800 --> 00:41:45.980 That's Elysian Fields. That's the beginning. 00:41:47.800 --> 00:41:53.849 Okay. Yeah. Euthanasia actually... It might be 00:41:53.849 --> 00:41:55.789 because of the speaker that I'm listening through. 00:41:56.030 --> 00:41:59.750 It's actually one of the knocks when it came 00:41:59.750 --> 00:42:02.949 out is that it was kind of too polished. That 00:42:02.949 --> 00:42:08.929 was one of the things. And I think some people 00:42:08.929 --> 00:42:13.289 feel that it was kind of a cleaner version of 00:42:13.289 --> 00:42:15.849 Countdown. I remember back in the day that some 00:42:15.849 --> 00:42:19.769 people said that. So let's see. This came out 00:42:19.769 --> 00:42:23.539 November 1st, 1994. recorded in phoenix arizona 00:42:23.539 --> 00:42:26.260 so it's kind of the last one that was recorded 00:42:26.260 --> 00:42:29.440 in arizona before he moved things to nashville 00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:33.880 yeah um singles are train of consequence and 00:42:33.880 --> 00:42:38.960 a two lamon um but i mean i listened to this 00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:43.719 album a ton back in the day and i played reckoning 00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:47.860 day a lot train of consequence obviously uh addicted 00:42:47.860 --> 00:42:51.699 to chaos Elysian Fields. Elysian Fields is my 00:42:51.699 --> 00:42:54.780 favorite track off of the album. And then the 00:42:54.780 --> 00:43:00.679 track Victory is, again, it's a thrashier song 00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:07.539 where the lyrics of the song are Megadeth song 00:43:07.539 --> 00:43:11.719 titles. So he kind of ties that all in together. 00:43:12.260 --> 00:43:15.869 And I remember at the time. As kids, we were 00:43:15.869 --> 00:43:18.429 like, wait a second. Is this Dave signaling that 00:43:18.429 --> 00:43:22.190 this is the end of the band? Is he kind of celebrating 00:43:22.190 --> 00:43:24.949 what they've done before this? And that's why 00:43:24.949 --> 00:43:34.130 he's naming all those tracks off? But yeah, this 00:43:34.130 --> 00:43:36.269 album, you're not so much of a fan of, right? 00:43:37.570 --> 00:43:43.019 Yeah, they totally lost me with this one. And 00:43:43.019 --> 00:43:45.059 I was just listening to more and more thrash 00:43:45.059 --> 00:43:47.420 and death metal bands by this time. And, you 00:43:47.420 --> 00:43:49.800 know, I had plenty of other things to keep me, 00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:55.500 to entertain me than this. And the tone, too, 00:43:55.559 --> 00:43:58.119 this is where I feel like the tone got a little 00:43:58.119 --> 00:44:03.860 bit worse on Countdown as far as, you know, because 00:44:03.860 --> 00:44:08.219 I like that more raw, edgy, you know, in the 00:44:08.219 --> 00:44:10.619 garage kind of guitar sound. You know, a couple 00:44:10.619 --> 00:44:12.760 of dudes with... Marshall stacks or whatever, 00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:17.719 but on countdown, it became a little more produced. 00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:20.119 And on this record, I think I feel like the, 00:44:20.159 --> 00:44:25.239 the jug went away completely to where, uh, I 00:44:25.239 --> 00:44:26.900 don't know. I just, I didn't hear it at all anymore 00:44:26.900 --> 00:44:29.420 on the next few records. And it wasn't until 00:44:29.420 --> 00:44:32.599 the system has failed where I kind of started 00:44:32.599 --> 00:44:34.860 to hear some of that, you know, thrash metal 00:44:34.860 --> 00:44:38.739 bottom end getting back in there. Um, and then 00:44:38.739 --> 00:44:41.059 the songs too, every song to me is just kind 00:44:41.059 --> 00:44:44.570 of, a standard, you know, verse, chorus, verse, 00:44:44.670 --> 00:44:47.630 chorus, guitar, solo in the song, and then do 00:44:47.630 --> 00:44:51.170 it again. So it's just, you know, especially 00:44:51.170 --> 00:44:53.929 with me listening to so much, you know, death 00:44:53.929 --> 00:44:56.289 and thrash metal bands that are just doing so 00:44:56.289 --> 00:44:59.309 many more interesting things. I mean, I mean, 00:44:59.349 --> 00:45:03.469 just compare this to like rest in peace. There's 00:45:03.469 --> 00:45:06.250 just so much more, especially for a guitar player, 00:45:06.369 --> 00:45:09.980 so much more interesting things going on. on 00:45:09.980 --> 00:45:11.980 albums like rest in peace that it's just, it 00:45:11.980 --> 00:45:15.139 was euthanasia. I just, I don't need, I don't 00:45:15.139 --> 00:45:16.920 know if I even heard anything off of this until 00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:18.980 several years later, because I just wasn't paying 00:45:18.980 --> 00:45:28.280 attention at this point. Number five. Killing 00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:34.239 is my business and business is good. 1985, May, 00:45:34.380 --> 00:45:38.260 I believe, or June. We are five for five. Ed 00:45:38.260 --> 00:45:41.260 was, Shaking off air that he wasn't going to 00:45:41.260 --> 00:45:45.579 be getting any of these. But he is correct. Was 00:45:45.579 --> 00:45:51.179 released in the UK May 14th, 1985, and then June 00:45:51.179 --> 00:45:57.079 12th in the US. Recorded between December 84, 00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:03.139 January 85. Was recorded in Malibu, California 00:46:03.139 --> 00:46:06.780 at Indigo Ranch, Crystal Sound Labs, Hollywood, 00:46:06.940 --> 00:46:11.780 California. Produced by Dave Mustaine and Carrot 00:46:11.780 --> 00:46:19.420 Faye. And no singles released off of this one. 00:46:19.739 --> 00:46:25.900 No. But, yeah, I mean, the controversy for years, 00:46:25.980 --> 00:46:33.280 besides the Metallica songs, per se, the songs 00:46:33.280 --> 00:46:38.460 that he redid with Mechanix. Versus Four Horsemen, 00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:50.139 the Nancy Sinatra cover as well. So this album 00:46:50.139 --> 00:46:52.280 was always kind of steeped in controversy, and 00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:56.280 it's been re -released a million times. Yeah. 00:46:56.380 --> 00:47:00.179 With different sounds, with different lyrics, 00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:04.610 with different track listings. different track 00:47:04.610 --> 00:47:10.670 listings. And I got mad about these boots. Yeah. 00:47:10.789 --> 00:47:13.769 So they had to alter the lyrics and there's a 00:47:13.769 --> 00:47:21.909 bunch of things. Um, and, and I think that that's 00:47:21.909 --> 00:47:24.349 kind of turned fans off to this album because 00:47:24.349 --> 00:47:26.590 there's so many different versions of it. There's 00:47:26.590 --> 00:47:30.449 so many different product, you know, um, ways 00:47:30.449 --> 00:47:35.179 that it's been produced and mixed. that I think 00:47:35.179 --> 00:47:38.360 a lot of people just like the original. Yeah. 00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:49.840 Yeah. It's a tough record to either love or hate, 00:47:49.860 --> 00:47:52.460 I guess. If you're a thrash metal guy, it's, 00:47:52.460 --> 00:47:54.480 you know, one that's going to be in your collection 00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:57.619 and it's got, it's got really good songs, but 00:47:57.619 --> 00:48:01.619 you know, by the time records like P cells were 00:48:01.619 --> 00:48:04.559 coming out, which sounded so much better. Right. 00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:08.440 Um, sonically, uh, you just weren't picking this 00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:10.840 one up. And unless you just got sick of, you 00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:12.539 know, hearing P cells and wanting to hear something 00:48:12.539 --> 00:48:15.460 different. Right. I'm talking back in the beginning 00:48:15.460 --> 00:48:18.079 when those were the only ones to listen to. And 00:48:18.079 --> 00:48:20.119 then, you know, as time went on, you know, you 00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:21.800 just kind of listened to this one less and less. 00:48:22.099 --> 00:48:24.780 This, I tell you what though, this is one record 00:48:24.780 --> 00:48:27.980 that I think the songs are good enough that if 00:48:27.980 --> 00:48:30.699 they, re -recorded some of these like some bands 00:48:30.699 --> 00:48:35.360 have done they would sound pretty cool if they 00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:38.079 can do it without losing the energy of the songs 00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:42.980 which I think Megadeth still has quite a bit 00:48:42.980 --> 00:48:46.940 of that thrash metal energy especially when you 00:48:46.940 --> 00:48:49.199 listen to them write songs like We'll Be Back 00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:53.079 if they can keep that same kind of energy and 00:48:53.079 --> 00:48:55.400 re -record some of these songs man I'd love to 00:48:55.400 --> 00:48:58.670 hear them Yeah. Like mechanics, you know, it's 00:48:58.670 --> 00:49:00.809 not as great as the four horsemen, but it's still 00:49:00.809 --> 00:49:03.550 a cool song to hear as fast as it is. Right. 00:49:03.909 --> 00:49:07.230 And, uh, you know, you turn it up loud on a good 00:49:07.230 --> 00:49:10.570 home stereo or in the car. And if they did rerecord 00:49:10.570 --> 00:49:13.909 that with some good heavy tones and a good drummer, 00:49:14.010 --> 00:49:17.030 that'd be, that'd be a good jam. I think. Yeah. 00:49:17.070 --> 00:49:19.150 I think they got the right drummer in place to 00:49:19.150 --> 00:49:22.309 do it with Dirk. He's a ridiculous drummer. Oh 00:49:22.309 --> 00:49:25.619 yeah. Yeah. They sure would. So Dave, I know 00:49:25.619 --> 00:49:30.519 you're listening, so take our advice there. Listening 00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:45.380 or watching? Let's see. Next up, we are up to, 00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:58.050 that was number five. Number four. I didn't hear 00:49:58.050 --> 00:50:02.590 that very much. I didn't hear it. Number four. 00:50:04.929 --> 00:50:06.809 Oh, so that was an acoustic guitar. Number four. 00:50:08.230 --> 00:50:15.389 Yep. Just one note I'm giving you. Number four. 00:50:16.510 --> 00:50:19.250 It's risk. No, no, no, no, no. We already did 00:50:19.250 --> 00:50:24.800 risk. Man. That would have to be Countdown to 00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:32.860 Extinction. It is Countdown to Extinction. Man, 00:50:32.980 --> 00:50:35.460 I almost missed that one. You got me with that 00:50:35.460 --> 00:50:39.800 one -note acoustic guitar there. That's Foreclosure 00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:45.679 of a Dream. Yeah. So let's see. This was released 00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:50.260 July 14, 1992. It was recorded between January 00:50:50.260 --> 00:50:54.159 6th and April 28th, 1992 at the Enterprise in 00:50:54.159 --> 00:50:58.239 Burbank, California. Produced by Max Norman and 00:50:58.239 --> 00:51:03.019 Dave Mustaine. Singles off of this album are 00:51:03.019 --> 00:51:06.500 Symphony of Destruction, Foreclosure of a Dream, 00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:14.250 Sweating Bullets, and Skin of My Teeth. This 00:51:14.250 --> 00:51:17.090 album, are you a fan of it at all? I believe 00:51:17.090 --> 00:51:22.590 you're not, correct? Yes and no. I felt the same 00:51:22.590 --> 00:51:25.849 about this one as I did when the Black album 00:51:25.849 --> 00:51:30.710 came out. Okay. Which is something I've been 00:51:30.710 --> 00:51:33.230 dealing with for years with all of my hard rock 00:51:33.230 --> 00:51:36.170 bands from the early 80s, becoming more and more 00:51:36.170 --> 00:51:40.139 hair metal -like. You know, it's like I was going 00:51:40.139 --> 00:51:41.780 through it all again with thrash metal bands 00:51:41.780 --> 00:51:44.519 starting to become more mainstream heavy metal 00:51:44.519 --> 00:51:47.079 and nothing against that. But that's not the 00:51:47.079 --> 00:51:50.840 bands that we grew up on. So I was checking out 00:51:50.840 --> 00:51:54.260 at this point, although, you know, songs like 00:51:54.260 --> 00:51:56.900 Symphony of Destruction are great heavy metal 00:51:56.900 --> 00:51:59.039 songs and it's still got the jug in there, too. 00:51:59.460 --> 00:52:02.039 You know, it's that sound like you hear in symphony 00:52:02.039 --> 00:52:05.260 that disappears as some of the other records 00:52:05.260 --> 00:52:10.260 come along. But anyway, I told you a few months 00:52:10.260 --> 00:52:13.599 ago that I put this record back on after hearing 00:52:13.599 --> 00:52:16.119 you talk about it one day and really enjoyed 00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:23.260 it. And so I've been liking it more as time goes 00:52:23.260 --> 00:52:26.739 on when it comes up in my playlist. It's got 00:52:26.739 --> 00:52:29.239 a lot of good songs. I can see why it's a great 00:52:29.239 --> 00:52:32.039 record. And even though I was disappointed in 00:52:32.039 --> 00:52:34.760 it, I'm still happy that Megadeth had such great 00:52:34.760 --> 00:52:40.280 success with it. Number two album only didn't 00:52:40.280 --> 00:52:44.039 get number one due to Billy Ray Cyrus with his 00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:49.579 achy, breaky heart. And I think that's why they 00:52:49.579 --> 00:52:54.159 kind of followed that trend after this. I think 00:52:54.159 --> 00:52:56.880 Dave was just hell bent on getting a number one 00:52:56.880 --> 00:53:01.960 any way he could. But this album, I mean, Skin 00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:06.469 of My Teeth is a real heavy track. Um, high speed 00:53:06.469 --> 00:53:10.369 dirt, the closer ashes in your mouth. I mean, 00:53:10.389 --> 00:53:16.050 I've listened to this album quite a bit and I 00:53:16.050 --> 00:53:18.869 don't know if, if, if I put this up against the 00:53:18.869 --> 00:53:23.150 black album, I might actually pick this over 00:53:23.150 --> 00:53:27.510 the black album. I mean, I would do that any 00:53:27.510 --> 00:53:29.809 day. Yeah. Big time. I've got, I'll have this 00:53:29.809 --> 00:53:31.829 one in my collection, but not the black out. 00:53:33.510 --> 00:53:37.119 Um, So you said Billy Ray Cyrus beat him out 00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:40.860 on this? Yep. So that stinks. A Kentucky boy 00:53:40.860 --> 00:53:48.659 kept my thrash metal idol from being number one. 00:53:48.739 --> 00:53:51.719 I'm sorry, Dave, about that. That's terrible 00:53:51.719 --> 00:53:58.690 to hear. Yeah, it's even in. Wikipedia. It says 00:53:58.690 --> 00:54:02.309 debuted at number two on the Billboard 200 with 00:54:02.309 --> 00:54:06.570 the first week sales of 128 ,000 copies. It was 00:54:06.570 --> 00:54:09.210 prevented from entering the chart at number one 00:54:09.210 --> 00:54:13.869 because of Billy Ray Cyrus' long chart -topping 00:54:13.869 --> 00:54:19.449 reign with Some Gave All. The album was acknowledged 00:54:19.449 --> 00:54:22.969 as the band's commercial breakthrough, and according 00:54:22.969 --> 00:54:30.010 to author Pete... Brown, and Harvey P. Newquist, 00:54:30.289 --> 00:54:33.289 Megadeth reached the heights of popularity and 00:54:33.289 --> 00:54:36.110 critical acclaim with this particular record. 00:54:37.590 --> 00:54:41.909 Two years after its release, it was certified 00:54:41.909 --> 00:54:48.610 double platinum. Now, this record was a better 00:54:48.610 --> 00:54:53.500 fit for Marty Friedman, I think. You think, you 00:54:53.500 --> 00:54:56.139 know, all of these records fit Marty Friedman 00:54:56.139 --> 00:54:58.960 style more like, you know, when I heard Marty 00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:02.019 Friedman was joining Megadeth, I was skeptical 00:55:02.019 --> 00:55:05.599 at first. Not not that I knew he was. I mean, 00:55:05.619 --> 00:55:07.840 I knew Marty Friedman was one of the best around, 00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:11.199 but I was skeptical how his style would fit into 00:55:11.199 --> 00:55:15.179 Megadeth. And of course, they gave us rest in 00:55:15.179 --> 00:55:20.300 peace. And. You can definitely tell a difference, 00:55:20.460 --> 00:55:24.190 you know, between Poland. And Friedman, it's 00:55:24.190 --> 00:55:28.050 just, you know, Friedman is just a lot more melodic. 00:55:29.210 --> 00:55:32.789 He's more for writing solos for heavy metal songs, 00:55:32.969 --> 00:55:35.730 not so much thrash metal. But they really pull 00:55:35.730 --> 00:55:39.110 it off really well, even though Rest in Peace 00:55:39.110 --> 00:55:42.829 is mostly a thrash metal record. And then, of 00:55:42.829 --> 00:55:44.630 course, you know, with Tornado of Souls, you 00:55:44.630 --> 00:55:47.809 know how legendary that solo is. That's just 00:55:47.809 --> 00:55:50.469 a good heavy metal song, really. I mean, it's 00:55:50.469 --> 00:55:53.389 a little bit thrashy, but not totally. But, you 00:55:53.389 --> 00:55:55.769 know, the songs on this became way less thrash, 00:55:55.829 --> 00:55:59.289 but it did fit Marty Friedman's style a lot more, 00:55:59.429 --> 00:56:01.829 which I think is kind of what also helped drag 00:56:01.829 --> 00:56:04.250 them in that direction. You know, Dave was wanting 00:56:04.250 --> 00:56:08.210 more success, I guess, in the mainstream world. 00:56:08.329 --> 00:56:12.449 And with Marty's, with his talent and his style, 00:56:12.650 --> 00:56:15.829 he was able to capitalize on that for a few records. 00:56:16.840 --> 00:56:22.440 It seems to me. Right. Makes sense. You know, 00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:27.920 I'm not a huge Marty Friedman fan from Cacophony 00:56:27.920 --> 00:56:29.980 or any of that stuff, but I'm sure you've heard 00:56:29.980 --> 00:56:37.940 plenty of that music. Yeah. So we have all types 00:56:37.940 --> 00:56:45.289 of predictions in here as to what order. Is going 00:56:45.289 --> 00:56:49.050 down here. I think Edgar is right twice so far. 00:56:50.409 --> 00:56:54.190 Oh, yeah, he's right three times, I think. Edgar 00:56:54.190 --> 00:56:57.889 Winters, he's got it right three times. So let's 00:56:57.889 --> 00:57:04.130 see if he's right with the next one. Number three. 00:57:08.130 --> 00:57:12.110 That's so far so good, so what? And I think that 00:57:12.110 --> 00:57:18.539 was. The last song on the album, which name, 00:57:18.559 --> 00:57:22.260 the title track's escaping my memory right now. 00:57:22.619 --> 00:57:25.820 Is it the last track? It is the last track. It 00:57:25.820 --> 00:57:30.400 is Hook. Hook and Mouth. Hook and Mouth. Yeah. 00:57:30.900 --> 00:57:35.699 So this is... Guitar Jam. This was released January 00:57:35.699 --> 00:57:40.880 19th, 1988, recorded in 87. Recorded at Music 00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:45.059 Rinder in Los Angeles. Producer is Paul Laney 00:57:45.059 --> 00:57:49.559 and Dave Mustaine. Singles, coincidentally. First 00:57:49.559 --> 00:57:53.559 single is Hookin' Mouth. Second single was their 00:57:53.559 --> 00:57:57.320 cover of Anarchy in the UK. Third is Mary Jane. 00:57:57.639 --> 00:58:03.639 And fourth is In My Darkest Hour, which is probably 00:58:03.639 --> 00:58:15.920 the biggest song off of this. Yeah. Oh, wow. 00:58:16.039 --> 00:58:18.760 So Steve Jones did the solo on Anarchy in the 00:58:18.760 --> 00:58:26.019 UK. I didn't know that. Yeah. Okay. So what are 00:58:26.019 --> 00:58:29.360 your thoughts on this album? I don't know if 00:58:29.360 --> 00:58:34.059 I've heard you say before. It's funny because 00:58:34.059 --> 00:58:38.500 a lot of people voted this one high up. Obviously, 00:58:38.519 --> 00:58:43.550 it's number three. Yeah, it's their third album 00:58:43.550 --> 00:58:46.590 as well. So that goes to show that there were 00:58:46.590 --> 00:58:49.769 a lot of people that voted that just did their 00:58:49.769 --> 00:58:56.349 early stuff. There's stuff off of this that I 00:58:56.349 --> 00:58:58.949 really like, and there's other stuff that just 00:58:58.949 --> 00:59:01.309 has never done anything for me. Like, I love 00:59:01.309 --> 00:59:05.989 Hook In My Mouth. I think the Anarchy in the 00:59:05.989 --> 00:59:11.710 UK cover is cool. In My Darkest Hour and a band 00:59:11.710 --> 00:59:14.010 I was in, we used to jam that song quite a bit. 00:59:16.690 --> 00:59:19.170 Yeah. But I can't say that there's really much 00:59:19.170 --> 00:59:21.849 more off of this that, you know, after Peace 00:59:21.849 --> 00:59:26.369 Sells, I always felt that this album was kind 00:59:26.369 --> 00:59:29.809 of a letdown. But there are people that voted 00:59:29.809 --> 00:59:35.010 this number one. Yeah, well, I think it's changed 00:59:35.010 --> 00:59:39.099 over time, people's feelings about it. Could 00:59:39.099 --> 00:59:45.719 be. It could be. This is an album which had a 00:59:45.719 --> 00:59:50.300 standalone lineup with Jeff Young, Chuck Buehler. 00:59:50.380 --> 00:59:55.219 Chuck Buehler was Gar Samuelson's drum tech. 00:59:56.219 --> 01:00:01.659 He knew all the material. Not sure where Jeff 01:00:01.659 --> 01:00:05.780 Young came from, but also Jeff Young. I remember. 01:00:07.239 --> 01:00:12.840 seeing all the promo photos for this and he kind 01:00:12.840 --> 01:00:15.780 of looked out of place because he had like, he 01:00:15.780 --> 01:00:20.820 had the big poofy hair. Yeah. And even, and, 01:00:20.820 --> 01:00:27.380 and listen, although Mustaine played thrash, 01:00:27.500 --> 01:00:34.920 his hair was on the sunset strip side of His 01:00:34.920 --> 01:00:39.340 and Ellison's, they all had big hair up until 01:00:39.340 --> 01:00:45.300 about Countdown. Yeah. And it changed more so 01:00:45.300 --> 01:00:48.099 because of grunge, I think, than it did because 01:00:48.099 --> 01:00:50.739 of, you know, maybe people thinking that they 01:00:50.739 --> 01:00:54.079 were posers. But anyway, what do you think of 01:00:54.079 --> 01:00:57.780 this one? So, yeah, it was a big disappointment 01:00:57.780 --> 01:01:00.940 after P -Cells, because that's what you're expecting, 01:01:01.059 --> 01:01:04.590 something like P -Cells or better. But like a 01:01:04.590 --> 01:01:07.329 lot of those records back then, like even when 01:01:07.329 --> 01:01:09.489 I first listened to South of Heaven, I didn't 01:01:09.489 --> 01:01:11.070 know what to think at first because it was so 01:01:11.070 --> 01:01:14.369 different from Brain and Blood and not what I 01:01:14.369 --> 01:01:17.730 was expecting. But also back then, even when 01:01:17.730 --> 01:01:19.329 you didn't like something that you bought, you 01:01:19.329 --> 01:01:21.530 kept listening to it for a couple of weeks. And, 01:01:21.530 --> 01:01:26.150 you know, and if the album is, you know, legitimately 01:01:26.150 --> 01:01:32.190 good, it starts to grow on you. It's hard to 01:01:32.190 --> 01:01:34.469 know how to feel about the production of this 01:01:34.469 --> 01:01:38.730 record. There's ways in which it sounds better 01:01:38.730 --> 01:01:41.829 than P -Cells, but other ways in which it doesn't. 01:01:42.489 --> 01:01:48.829 Like the guitars aren't as cool as they were 01:01:48.829 --> 01:01:51.989 on P -Cells, but it still somehow has a little 01:01:51.989 --> 01:01:55.610 better studio production. It still seems to have 01:01:55.610 --> 01:01:57.369 a lot of that reverb, you know, like their other 01:01:57.369 --> 01:02:02.619 two records did before. My favorite guitar jams 01:02:02.619 --> 01:02:04.920 on this one, Into the Lungs of Hell and Set the 01:02:04.920 --> 01:02:08.739 World on Fire. Those are fun to play. And then, 01:02:08.739 --> 01:02:12.579 like you said, it's got some great songs like 01:02:12.579 --> 01:02:15.440 Mary Jane, In My Darkest Hour, Hook and Mouth. 01:02:15.500 --> 01:02:19.780 All of those are great, even concert songs. And 01:02:19.780 --> 01:02:21.900 the others are ones that have just kind of grown 01:02:21.900 --> 01:02:24.840 on me because I listen to them with the rest 01:02:24.840 --> 01:02:28.739 of the record. But, you know, Liar and 502, they're 01:02:28.739 --> 01:02:34.030 just kind of... thrown in there i think but this 01:02:34.030 --> 01:02:38.250 album though has continued to grow on me and 01:02:38.250 --> 01:02:40.349 i think i've noticed you know especially with 01:02:40.349 --> 01:02:43.489 all the communications we can have on the internet 01:02:43.489 --> 01:02:46.630 now i see a lot of people even saying this is 01:02:46.630 --> 01:02:49.090 their favorite record nowadays right yeah i'm 01:02:49.090 --> 01:02:51.989 sure it's people that you know were my age when 01:02:51.989 --> 01:02:55.300 this came out I got to see them on this tour, 01:02:55.380 --> 01:02:57.880 too, up in Cincinnati. So that was pretty cool. 01:02:57.980 --> 01:03:02.960 Got to see them with Warlock opening open, I 01:03:02.960 --> 01:03:08.619 think. Okay. With Doro. Yeah. So that was kind 01:03:08.619 --> 01:03:10.940 of a nice memory. Although I was disappointed 01:03:10.940 --> 01:03:13.440 not to be going and seeing, you know, Chris Poland 01:03:13.440 --> 01:03:20.019 playing guitar. Right. Okay. But it did, you 01:03:20.019 --> 01:03:26.280 know, it kept us. You know, satisfied long enough 01:03:26.280 --> 01:03:36.699 to get us to rest in peace. Absolutely. Number 01:03:36.699 --> 01:03:42.320 two. That's Devil's Island off at Peace Hills, 01:03:42.460 --> 01:03:48.619 but who's buying from September 19th, 1986? September 01:03:48.619 --> 01:03:53.679 25th, 1986. At 19th must've been one of the other 01:03:53.679 --> 01:03:58.400 records. Yeah. Recorded between February to March, 01:03:58.500 --> 01:04:04.480 1986 at music grinder track record and rock steady 01:04:04.480 --> 01:04:08.579 in Los Angeles and mad dog in Venice beach recorded 01:04:08.579 --> 01:04:12.380 by Dave Mustaine and Randy Burns. The singles 01:04:12.380 --> 01:04:18.639 were wake up dead and peace cells. And this was 01:04:18.639 --> 01:04:25.690 my introduction. to the band. And it is, um, 01:04:25.929 --> 01:04:29.809 one of the reasons why I've always told this 01:04:29.809 --> 01:04:33.909 story, how, uh, back in the day in high school, 01:04:33.989 --> 01:04:37.389 you were either a Megadeth and Anthrax fan or 01:04:37.389 --> 01:04:42.030 Slayer and Metallica. And I was always, I'd heard 01:04:42.030 --> 01:04:48.349 this. Um, my neighbor had it. We listened to 01:04:48.349 --> 01:04:52.019 it in his garage. And hearing Wake Up Dead for 01:04:52.019 --> 01:04:55.519 the first time, I was like, oh, shit, what is 01:04:55.519 --> 01:05:00.860 this? Me too. You know, going from listening 01:05:00.860 --> 01:05:09.559 to Kiss and Quiet Riot and, you know, what else 01:05:09.559 --> 01:05:16.159 had I listened to up to then? Y &T and I had 01:05:16.159 --> 01:05:20.429 a compilation that had. Black Sabbath doing Trashed 01:05:20.429 --> 01:05:24.610 and Crocus and Triumph and Rush and Van Halen 01:05:24.610 --> 01:05:27.389 and stuff like that. And then all of a sudden 01:05:27.389 --> 01:05:34.510 you hear Wake Up Dead. And it's like three different 01:05:34.510 --> 01:05:38.409 songs. If you really dissect it, it's the main 01:05:38.409 --> 01:05:42.050 part. Then there's the solo part. And then there's 01:05:42.050 --> 01:05:44.289 that ending part. And I remember listening to 01:05:44.289 --> 01:05:46.989 it. It just blew my mind. I'm like, what is this? 01:05:48.269 --> 01:05:53.409 is the precursor to the breakdown in music, what 01:05:53.409 --> 01:06:02.829 came out after. And it was mind -blowing. And 01:06:02.829 --> 01:06:07.510 then going from that to The Conjuring, to Peace 01:06:07.510 --> 01:06:10.329 Sells, to Devil's Island, that first side is 01:06:10.329 --> 01:06:14.730 a perfect album side. Those four tracks. Devil's 01:06:14.730 --> 01:06:17.010 Island, to me, is my favorite track off of this. 01:06:18.660 --> 01:06:22.780 Um, I know it's more of an obscure track, but 01:06:22.780 --> 01:06:26.699 again, to me, that, that first side is a perfect 01:06:26.699 --> 01:06:31.420 album side and I've listened to it so many times. 01:06:31.480 --> 01:06:35.360 I just, I love this album. Um, when the reissue 01:06:35.360 --> 01:06:37.960 came out, which I have the box set behind me 01:06:37.960 --> 01:06:43.380 here. Yeah. I had to pick it up because it's 01:06:43.380 --> 01:06:47.530 one of my all time favorite albums. Um, it marked, 01:06:47.630 --> 01:06:51.949 it definitely marked a before and after in the 01:06:51.949 --> 01:06:54.769 soundtrack of my life. And I had friends that 01:06:54.769 --> 01:06:57.130 continued listening to a lot of the more radio 01:06:57.130 --> 01:07:00.070 friendly stuff. They were more into Def Leppard 01:07:00.070 --> 01:07:03.869 and stuff like that. And, and they'd gotten into 01:07:03.869 --> 01:07:06.170 poison and, you know, I was listening to some 01:07:06.170 --> 01:07:12.659 of that stuff as well, but I was. Going off into 01:07:12.659 --> 01:07:14.980 the thrash direction, you know, I was again, 01:07:15.119 --> 01:07:19.199 I was heavily into Megadeth and Anthrax and, 01:07:19.260 --> 01:07:23.000 you know, really into Maiden and really into 01:07:23.000 --> 01:07:26.219 heavier stuff than what a lot of my friends were 01:07:26.219 --> 01:07:28.880 listening to. I wasn't into Slayer and I wasn't 01:07:28.880 --> 01:07:31.440 into Metallica, but I was still listening to 01:07:31.440 --> 01:07:36.880 this stuff. And, you know, for me, for my money. 01:07:37.389 --> 01:07:40.690 This this was like the heaviest thing going around 01:07:40.690 --> 01:07:44.309 that at the time. So due to my ignorance. But 01:07:44.309 --> 01:07:48.789 anyway. Yeah. Your ideas on P cells. Yeah, it 01:07:48.789 --> 01:07:52.090 was a mind blowing moment for me, too. Of course, 01:07:52.130 --> 01:07:56.809 I was. 16 when this came out, I bought this in 01:07:56.809 --> 01:08:00.829 October of 86, along with rain and blood, and 01:08:00.829 --> 01:08:03.590 I heard both of those for the first time and 01:08:03.590 --> 01:08:06.769 my friends. car we had just started you know 01:08:06.769 --> 01:08:11.309 driving that year and uh yeah it's when i heard 01:08:11.309 --> 01:08:16.029 when i heard the first part of wake up dead it 01:08:16.029 --> 01:08:18.489 was it was like when i heard black sabbath for 01:08:18.489 --> 01:08:20.989 the first time where i heard balls to the wall 01:08:20.989 --> 01:08:26.489 for the first time it was just so wickedly cool 01:08:26.489 --> 01:08:29.289 different than anything i'd heard i mean it was 01:08:29.289 --> 01:08:31.609 like getting high for the first time it was so 01:08:31.609 --> 01:08:36.880 exciting um And as you said, to me, every song 01:08:36.880 --> 01:08:40.640 on this record is a single besides I ain't superstitious. 01:08:42.060 --> 01:08:45.039 Because for me, it just continues on. I love 01:08:45.039 --> 01:08:48.399 Good Morning Black Friday. I love Bad Omen. Bad 01:08:48.399 --> 01:08:50.979 Omen has just got one of the greatest, grooviest 01:08:50.979 --> 01:08:54.859 guitar riffs in it of Megadeth's entire catalog. 01:08:55.819 --> 01:08:58.840 If you want to try to get good at playing guitar, 01:08:59.119 --> 01:09:04.399 try to nail that riff. educate the hell out of 01:09:04.399 --> 01:09:08.520 you. And the way, you know, I ain't superstitious. 01:09:08.579 --> 01:09:12.180 I don't hate it, but, and I don't skip over it. 01:09:12.600 --> 01:09:16.579 Um, but I could have used, you know, an original 01:09:16.579 --> 01:09:19.800 Megadeth tune there to round it out to perfection. 01:09:20.479 --> 01:09:22.579 The only reason it wouldn't be a 10 out of 10 01:09:22.579 --> 01:09:26.119 is that, that song there, because my last words 01:09:26.119 --> 01:09:31.500 is also another perfect album ending. Yeah. And 01:09:31.500 --> 01:09:36.619 Edgar was right. It was my number one. You know, 01:09:36.619 --> 01:09:39.199 it's those two records, this and Rest in Peace. 01:09:39.439 --> 01:09:43.020 It's hard to say which one's better. But because 01:09:43.020 --> 01:09:46.420 of my this being my first time experience with 01:09:46.420 --> 01:09:51.279 Meg Death and just that sound, it sticks with 01:09:51.279 --> 01:09:55.579 me more than Rest in Peace does for that reason. 01:09:56.399 --> 01:09:58.979 And yeah, I bought this record over and over 01:09:58.979 --> 01:10:02.739 again. I've got those new 2011 versions, which 01:10:02.739 --> 01:10:06.479 are much better than the 2004 remixes, which 01:10:06.479 --> 01:10:08.920 I think is your box set there. I think it's probably 01:10:08.920 --> 01:10:13.279 that recording, the 2011 maybe. Yeah, it has 01:10:13.279 --> 01:10:17.560 the 2011 and it has the original mix as well. 01:10:17.859 --> 01:10:26.319 Cool. That's nice. It's got the album on CD and 01:10:26.319 --> 01:10:29.010 on vinyl. I couldn't get the vinyl out. And I 01:10:29.010 --> 01:10:33.470 had to gingerly cut it because the jackets are 01:10:33.470 --> 01:10:40.289 stuck inside the actual sleeve. Yeah. So I had 01:10:40.289 --> 01:10:46.390 to gingerly slice the jacket, hoping that I wouldn't 01:10:46.390 --> 01:10:49.229 destroy it. And it's a white marble finish. It's 01:10:49.229 --> 01:10:52.029 really cool looking. And also, man, you also 01:10:52.029 --> 01:10:55.210 have to give such great props to Gar and Chris 01:10:55.210 --> 01:10:58.890 Poland on this album. I mean, this was a magical 01:10:58.890 --> 01:11:04.289 moment that will never be done again. It was 01:11:04.289 --> 01:11:06.989 just perfect, the way they all gelled together 01:11:06.989 --> 01:11:11.810 and created that sound. And the guitar solos 01:11:11.810 --> 01:11:14.109 on this album, every one of them is interesting. 01:11:14.369 --> 01:11:16.710 I never get bored with any of the guitar solos, 01:11:16.710 --> 01:11:19.949 as many as there are on this. And when you listen 01:11:19.949 --> 01:11:22.270 to Dave and Chris going back and forth, I mean, 01:11:22.310 --> 01:11:24.449 they sound like they grew up playing guitar together. 01:11:26.390 --> 01:11:32.529 The way they played added to just that wicked 01:11:32.529 --> 01:11:35.630 sound of this entire record, even in the guitar 01:11:35.630 --> 01:11:43.310 solos. Yeah. It's interesting as well how both 01:11:43.310 --> 01:11:48.609 Chris and Gar were both more jazz -influenced, 01:11:48.609 --> 01:11:53.149 the two of them. Yeah. How they made it work 01:11:53.149 --> 01:11:58.850 and how... So many big players in the rock and 01:11:58.850 --> 01:12:05.109 metal world come from other forms of music and 01:12:05.109 --> 01:12:07.449 kind of spice things up because they're not playing 01:12:07.449 --> 01:12:10.550 things in a standard way. And they're bringing 01:12:10.550 --> 01:12:13.890 in kind of a different feel to things. And in 01:12:13.890 --> 01:12:17.930 this album, for example, it's completely memorable. 01:12:18.649 --> 01:12:24.090 Yes. Yeah, this was just a magical moment in 01:12:24.090 --> 01:12:26.930 heavy metal history. Yeah, absolutely. It'll 01:12:26.930 --> 01:12:32.689 never be forgotten. All right, so number one. 01:12:33.170 --> 01:12:38.590 I think we already know. Number one. Rest in 01:12:38.590 --> 01:12:44.529 peace. That was, dang, I'm forgetting the title 01:12:44.529 --> 01:12:49.649 tracks here. That was Take No Prisoners. It is 01:12:49.649 --> 01:12:53.270 indeed. Yeah. One of my favorite guitar jams 01:12:53.270 --> 01:13:00.329 off of that record. All right. So this was released 01:13:00.329 --> 01:13:05.369 September 24th, 1990, recorded between 89 and 01:13:05.369 --> 01:13:13.449 90 at Rumbo Recorders in Canoga Park, California, 01:13:13.850 --> 01:13:18.149 produced by Dave Mustaine and Mike Klink. And 01:13:18.149 --> 01:13:21.949 this is the Appetite for Destruction effect. 01:13:23.230 --> 01:13:26.189 Because Appetite for Destruction were both recorded 01:13:26.189 --> 01:13:32.970 by Mike Klink and at Rumbo Recorders. So I guess 01:13:32.970 --> 01:13:35.689 it was them once again taking a stab at things 01:13:35.689 --> 01:13:40.149 to try to get a popular album out there. But 01:13:40.149 --> 01:13:44.670 yeah, so obviously Holy Wars, The Punishment 01:13:44.670 --> 01:13:47.829 Is Due, Hanger 18, Take No Prisoners, The Five 01:13:47.829 --> 01:13:53.369 Magics, Poison Was The Cure, Lucretia. Tornado 01:13:53.369 --> 01:13:57.909 of Souls, Dawn Patrol, and Rest in Peace, Polaris. 01:13:59.489 --> 01:14:06.689 It's good stuff, man. It is. It absolutely is. 01:14:06.949 --> 01:14:12.289 And interestingly enough, the 2004 version has 01:14:12.289 --> 01:14:15.430 some demos on it, and Chris Poland plays the 01:14:15.430 --> 01:14:18.890 leads on those. He plays the leads on Rest in 01:14:18.890 --> 01:14:21.270 Peace, Polaris, Holy Wars, Punishment is Due. 01:14:21.789 --> 01:14:24.130 Take no prisoners. I don't believe that I've 01:14:24.130 --> 01:14:31.750 heard them, but it interests me enough to want 01:14:31.750 --> 01:14:37.909 to go back and check them out now. Yeah. So at 01:14:37.909 --> 01:14:41.470 what point in your Megadeth catalog did you hear 01:14:41.470 --> 01:14:46.689 this album? Oh, right. Listen, the singles I 01:14:46.689 --> 01:14:49.390 heard right away. I heard Holy Wars. I heard. 01:14:49.789 --> 01:14:53.310 Hangar 18 because there were videos out. Eddie 01:14:53.310 --> 01:14:56.109 Trent was playing them on the radio. The local 01:14:56.109 --> 01:14:59.289 college station, WSOU, was playing all of this 01:14:59.289 --> 01:15:01.970 stuff. So did you hear this before P -Cells? 01:15:02.810 --> 01:15:06.829 No. No, okay. Not at all. I heard this right 01:15:06.829 --> 01:15:11.670 when it came out. I heard P -Cells back in 86. 01:15:13.050 --> 01:15:19.430 Did you? Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember 01:15:19.430 --> 01:15:23.109 So Far, So Good, So What coming out and remembering 01:15:23.109 --> 01:15:27.390 the Shocker soundtrack, which had come out before 01:15:27.390 --> 01:15:30.970 that, which had No More Mr. Nice Guy on it. That 01:15:30.970 --> 01:15:33.329 got some airplay in my area, and I remember them 01:15:33.329 --> 01:15:39.989 saying how it was an Alice Cooper cover and Anarchy 01:15:39.989 --> 01:15:42.449 in the UK being a Sex Pistols cover as well. 01:15:42.470 --> 01:15:45.270 I remember them saying that. So I remember seeing 01:15:45.270 --> 01:15:50.920 this. seeing the video for Holy Wars and, and 01:15:50.920 --> 01:15:53.300 even hanger 18. I remember hearing hanger 18 01:15:53.300 --> 01:15:56.380 at first and not getting it, you know, not getting 01:15:56.380 --> 01:16:00.939 how the, the song started out and thinking, it 01:16:00.939 --> 01:16:02.779 sounds like somebody is not playing a right note 01:16:02.779 --> 01:16:06.140 somewhere in there. What, what is this? And then, 01:16:06.140 --> 01:16:10.420 and then once it got to the, and I had the single, 01:16:10.479 --> 01:16:13.460 I think I sold the single for this, but I had 01:16:13.460 --> 01:16:18.029 it on CD. Uh, and I had an edit of it. So I remember 01:16:18.029 --> 01:16:26.010 I liked the edit more because the, um, it didn't 01:16:26.010 --> 01:16:28.270 have like the, the solo in the beginning of the 01:16:28.270 --> 01:16:31.909 song. It just kind of got into like from the, 01:16:31.930 --> 01:16:35.470 the original riff to like the main verse riff, 01:16:35.630 --> 01:16:39.229 which I, once I got there to that main verse 01:16:39.229 --> 01:16:43.000 riff, that's what kind of sold me on it. but 01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:46.279 it took me a few listens to kind of get the song. 01:16:47.039 --> 01:16:52.319 But once I did, now I have to listen to the whole, 01:16:52.500 --> 01:16:55.699 not the edited version, because I want to hear 01:16:55.699 --> 01:16:58.060 the full solos, because the solos are just so 01:16:58.060 --> 01:17:02.180 grandiose and just so good. Yeah. You just want 01:17:02.180 --> 01:17:07.779 to hear them. I remember the 2004 remixes. I 01:17:07.779 --> 01:17:10.220 remember a lot of people not liking it. Yeah, 01:17:10.239 --> 01:17:13.239 I did not like it. I still don't. What I like 01:17:13.239 --> 01:17:16.100 off of that, though, as a drummer, I like that 01:17:16.100 --> 01:17:20.119 the low end, they increase the low end off of 01:17:20.119 --> 01:17:23.479 it. So I remember listening to Holy Wars and 01:17:23.479 --> 01:17:26.600 where he gets towards the end where there's all 01:17:26.600 --> 01:17:29.479 the double bass. I remember just hearing that 01:17:29.479 --> 01:17:34.420 and seeing my speakers just going crazy, trying 01:17:34.420 --> 01:17:37.779 to keep up with that double bass. And I was like, 01:17:37.819 --> 01:17:39.640 wow, this is just so awesome. You know, as a 01:17:39.640 --> 01:17:42.270 drummer. Just hearing Nick Menza in all his glory 01:17:42.270 --> 01:17:48.689 like that, I loved it. So Anthony's saying that 01:17:48.689 --> 01:17:52.510 the end solo is too long. So you're saying that 01:17:52.510 --> 01:17:55.489 you think they got the drums beefed up more on 01:17:55.489 --> 01:17:57.670 that remix? Because to me, all I can hear is 01:17:57.670 --> 01:18:01.510 that big bass, and I didn't notice. Yeah, they 01:18:01.510 --> 01:18:07.170 increased the entire bottom end, the bass and 01:18:07.170 --> 01:18:12.739 the bass drums. I'll have to listen to that in 01:18:12.739 --> 01:18:15.939 the car and EQ it so I take out some Ellis in 01:18:15.939 --> 01:18:19.640 a little bit and then enjoy that. Yeah, I'll 01:18:19.640 --> 01:18:22.000 do that since you brought that up so I can enjoy 01:18:22.000 --> 01:18:28.300 that drum there at the end. Yeah, check that 01:18:28.300 --> 01:18:33.100 out. So you were skeptical going into this because 01:18:33.100 --> 01:18:38.619 of Marty Friedman. Yeah, because I was disappointed 01:18:38.619 --> 01:18:43.420 to hear. Well, no, I take that. I was disappointed 01:18:43.420 --> 01:18:46.399 when Chris left, especially. I didn't know anything 01:18:46.399 --> 01:18:51.500 about Jeff. We didn't hear anything about him 01:18:51.500 --> 01:18:56.100 until So Far came out. And then when I heard 01:18:56.100 --> 01:18:58.520 that Marty was going to be in the band, it was 01:18:58.520 --> 01:19:01.180 just an interesting thought. You just didn't 01:19:01.180 --> 01:19:04.899 quite get how that was going to work. Because 01:19:04.899 --> 01:19:09.479 he was not a thrash metal guitar player. But 01:19:09.479 --> 01:19:13.720 like I said, it works fine. They did a great 01:19:13.720 --> 01:19:18.319 job on this record. Now, Holy Wars, this is why 01:19:18.319 --> 01:19:21.640 it's hard to say which record is better or not. 01:19:21.800 --> 01:19:24.159 Mainly because of that song, Holy Wars. It's 01:19:24.159 --> 01:19:26.180 hard not to say that's the best thrash metal 01:19:26.180 --> 01:19:29.279 tune ever made. But they did an awesome job with 01:19:29.279 --> 01:19:31.380 that tune between the two guitar players. Because 01:19:31.380 --> 01:19:36.590 you have Marty. who does some guitar solos in 01:19:36.590 --> 01:19:40.750 the midsection. And then when they get to the 01:19:40.750 --> 01:19:44.170 end thrash piece, where they just thrash out 01:19:44.170 --> 01:19:46.369 the rest of the way, you have David doing his 01:19:46.369 --> 01:19:50.130 own trending solo. And so they're kind of separated 01:19:50.130 --> 01:19:52.409 in different parts of the song, but the parts 01:19:52.409 --> 01:19:56.050 they play kind of fit their character. And you 01:19:56.050 --> 01:19:58.470 see that a lot throughout this record. And when 01:19:58.470 --> 01:20:00.489 you get to songs like Tornado of Souls, you know, 01:20:00.510 --> 01:20:02.310 you have Dave backing off and letting Marty take 01:20:02.310 --> 01:20:03.949 care of it because there's no way he's going 01:20:03.949 --> 01:20:07.350 to, you know, fit into that tune like Marty can. 01:20:07.729 --> 01:20:13.270 But this album, though, I play this one all the 01:20:13.270 --> 01:20:18.829 time on guitar. Love to play Holy Wars. Hangar 01:20:18.829 --> 01:20:21.510 18, I was kind of like you. It was a little bit 01:20:21.510 --> 01:20:24.550 too slow for me in the beginning. Over time, 01:20:24.689 --> 01:20:27.510 it grows on me because it is fun to listen to 01:20:27.510 --> 01:20:30.109 the guitar playing in that one. And that's another 01:20:30.109 --> 01:20:31.869 song where they do kind of go back and forth 01:20:31.869 --> 01:20:34.229 playing, but they still did a pretty good job 01:20:34.229 --> 01:20:36.850 of playing together. Take No Prisoners, man, 01:20:36.930 --> 01:20:41.949 that song is so fun. And then I love Lucretia. 01:20:42.210 --> 01:20:45.789 That's another guitar jam for people trying to 01:20:45.789 --> 01:20:48.770 learn guitar to try to nail because it's hard 01:20:48.770 --> 01:20:52.689 to get the groove down and play that clean. That 01:20:52.689 --> 01:20:55.680 riff is... It's tough, but it's fun if you get 01:20:55.680 --> 01:20:59.199 it. And Tornado of Souls, we don't have to say 01:20:59.199 --> 01:21:01.279 anything about that song. Everybody knows how 01:21:01.279 --> 01:21:04.260 great it is. The guitar solo, you know, you'll 01:21:04.260 --> 01:21:06.619 see 100 people on YouTube, you know, showing 01:21:06.619 --> 01:21:08.520 off how they can nail that guitar solo because 01:21:08.520 --> 01:21:13.479 it's so iconic. Right. And for the way it ends 01:21:13.479 --> 01:21:16.380 with Rest in Peace and Polaris, all five of those 01:21:16.380 --> 01:21:19.899 tunes are great guitar jams if you play. The 01:21:19.899 --> 01:21:24.270 other songs I don't care so much for. And sometimes 01:21:24.270 --> 01:21:27.970 I will even skip over those. But I still, I mean, 01:21:27.989 --> 01:21:30.149 you know, just putting it on and listening to 01:21:30.149 --> 01:21:34.010 it as a whole album, you know, they all fit well 01:21:34.010 --> 01:21:37.250 together. They flow one song to the next. But 01:21:37.250 --> 01:21:41.989 you can tell, though, how having Marty in here, 01:21:42.130 --> 01:21:45.430 you can kind of tell a little shift from the 01:21:45.430 --> 01:21:48.409 thrash metal. Like there was a little bit less 01:21:48.409 --> 01:21:55.680 thrash metal, I think, on this one. So by the 01:21:55.680 --> 01:21:59.039 time Countdown came out, that wasn't there. You 01:21:59.039 --> 01:22:00.699 could tell that's the direction that they were 01:22:00.699 --> 01:22:06.619 going. Right. Yeah. But yeah, I understand why 01:22:06.619 --> 01:22:09.979 this is number one. It's hard not to not to say 01:22:09.979 --> 01:22:13.539 it is. And that's interesting because a lot of 01:22:13.539 --> 01:22:17.079 people consider this the best thrash metal album 01:22:17.079 --> 01:22:23.579 of all time. Yeah. And it's it's. That's a good 01:22:23.579 --> 01:22:27.560 one to have as your favorite. Yeah. All right, 01:22:27.640 --> 01:22:30.539 so let's go over the top 10 real quickly here 01:22:30.539 --> 01:22:34.300 before ending the show. At 10, we had United 01:22:34.300 --> 01:22:39.119 Abominations. Nine, we had The System Has Failed. 01:22:40.479 --> 01:22:49.000 Eight, Cryptic Writings. Seven, Dystopia. Six, 01:22:49.340 --> 01:22:57.350 Euthanasia. Five, killing is my business. Four, 01:22:57.409 --> 01:23:04.229 countdown to extinction. Three is so far, so 01:23:04.229 --> 01:23:08.529 good, so what? Two is peace sells, but who's 01:23:08.529 --> 01:23:15.050 buying? And at number one, it is rust in peace. 01:23:16.689 --> 01:23:20.090 I do want to thank everyone who's joined us tonight. 01:23:20.640 --> 01:23:24.239 Bunch of people in the chat tonight. We had Anthony 01:23:24.239 --> 01:23:28.779 Mackey, Edgar Winterson. We had Tony Espin. And 01:23:28.779 --> 01:23:30.739 there was somebody else that joined us somewhere 01:23:30.739 --> 01:23:34.560 in the chat, so I apologize. Oh, we had Dr. Sexy. 01:23:36.300 --> 01:23:40.920 Dr. Sexy joined us. Okay. That was me doing a 01:23:40.920 --> 01:23:42.640 little pretend character over here on the other 01:23:42.640 --> 01:23:47.140 screen. Oh, was it? No, I'm kidding. That's a 01:23:47.140 --> 01:23:51.659 cool name, though, Dr. Sexy. Thinking Ed's got 01:23:51.659 --> 01:23:56.659 alter egos. So on that note, we will end the 01:23:56.659 --> 01:23:59.319 show. Want to thank everyone that checked us 01:23:59.319 --> 01:24:02.880 out live or that has watched the replay. Also 01:24:02.880 --> 01:24:07.520 want to thank anyone that voted. We will be back 01:24:07.520 --> 01:24:12.760 with a patron or I should say patron slash voting 01:24:12.760 --> 01:24:17.340 episode. It will probably be voting on some type 01:24:17.340 --> 01:24:21.619 of a. Hard rock or metal subgenre. We'll see. 01:24:21.779 --> 01:24:25.140 We'll see if we get enough people to choose what 01:24:25.140 --> 01:24:27.619 we're going to discuss. It'll be fun either way. 01:24:28.380 --> 01:24:32.920 And, um, that should be, um, probably at the 01:24:32.920 --> 01:24:36.119 end of August, more than likely, but we'll see 01:24:36.119 --> 01:24:38.659 how it all shakes out. Ed, thanks for joining 01:24:38.659 --> 01:24:41.739 me. It was a lot of fun and you got all the, 01:24:41.739 --> 01:24:44.840 uh, all the songs. Couldn't, couldn't. Yeah, 01:24:44.840 --> 01:24:48.930 that was fun. Yeah. I enjoyed it. Cool. I'm glad 01:24:48.930 --> 01:24:50.649 it was a band like Megadeth that I had plenty 01:24:50.649 --> 01:24:53.710 of commentary on. And I'm sorry for anybody if 01:24:53.710 --> 01:24:56.569 I insulted your favorite records. I'm speaking 01:24:56.569 --> 01:25:00.890 from a thrash metal side here. It's a fun conversation, 01:25:00.989 --> 01:25:03.090 though. Absolutely. It was a great conversation. 01:25:03.909 --> 01:25:06.829 On that note, we will end the show. See you guys 01:25:06.829 --> 01:25:09.489 next time right here on Signals from Mars. 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