Welcome one and all to episode 417 of Signals
from Mars. I'm your host, Victor. And this episode,
it is our Megadeth Albums Countdown. We had a
bunch of different people vote on this, submitting
their top 10 favorite Megadeth albums. And Ed
Ferguson joins me to go over these albums. I
will say that I was pleasantly surprised that
I could not stump Ed. These episodes are always
fun. It sucks that there weren't more people
that could join me. Usually it's my patrons that
are the ones that join me for these episodes.
That's one of the caveats for joining Patreon.
We're as little as two bucks a month. Patreon
.com forward slash signals from Mars. But anyway,
yeah, so usually it's three, four, five people.
Anthony Mackie tried to join, but look, there
were a lot of people on vacation. or people that
had other commitments and just couldn't make
it. And it sucks, but it's life. What can we
do? Ed and I still had a great time. It was fun
talking to Ed, and his Megadeth knowledge was
a lot better than what he let on. I mean, I didn't
doubt it, but he was saying, well, you know,
there are some albums there that I really wasn't
into, and this and that. And I think that bringing
this up, or actually being part of this episode,
I should say, there's probably a further appreciation
for a lot of their music. Look, not everything
that Megadeth has released is golden by far.
There are a lot of turds in there. But that's
the same with everyone's catalog. I don't think
anyone really, unless you put out an album or
two, can't claim to put out a dud here or there,
or, you know, something that isn't as monumental
as other albums. I'm thankful that Megadeth is
part of the soundtrack of my life. Every album
of theirs always seems to have something that
I like. And yes, even albums like Super Collider
or Risk even have a track or two that I enjoy.
I'm not one of these people that gets hung up
on, oh, it can only be rest in peace or peace
sells. Are they as good? I'm not going to sit
here and tell you that some of these albums are
as good as some of my favorites by the band.
But they have albums like United Abominations,
for example, that I absolutely love and that
I still play tracks off of frequently in 2025.
everything that a band releases doesn't have
to be the greatest thing they've released ever.
You can still enjoy it. It can still go in that
Megadeth playlist. So hopefully what this show
does is it makes you go back and check out the
Megadeth catalog, like a lot of people that submitted
their lists, and it makes you realize how strong
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the episode. Here we go. Welcome one and all
to the latest episode of Signals from Mars. I'm
your host, Victor. Joining me today for our Megadeth
discussion is Ed Ferguson in Kentucky. Ed, how
are you? Doing good, sir. Thank you. Excellent.
And we have Anthony popping in and out. He's
on vacation in Portugal. Edgar Winterson in the
chat. Thank you for joining us, Edgar. And tonight's
episode is a Megadeth albums countdown. Had a
fairly good turnout. Had every Megadeth album
and even an EP voted for by quite a few people.
So that's cool to hear. Yeah. So in total. There's
17 entries here, and I'm going to quickly go
over 17 through 11, and then we'll take our time
to dissect the rest. So at 17, we have Super
Collider. At 16, The World Needs a Hero, which
is the first tour where I actually saw them.
I saw them on the Maximum Rocks tour and I'd
gotten tickets for that because Anthrax was playing.
It was Motley Crue, Megadeth and Anthrax. And
by the time the tour got around to where I was
at, they'd kicked Anthrax off the tour because
they weren't making enough money. So the way
to solve that was. Not paying anthrax. Basically.
Did that tour have Al Petrelli and DeGrasso?
Yes, it did. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah. Yeah, and it
was before The World Needs a Hero because they
played Kill the King. And they also played Return
to the Hangar Live. Sorry, I remember that. And
then I don't remember if they played Dread the
Fugitive Mind or not. Actually, they were on
tour for a Greatest Hits called Capital Punishment.
I have that. Yeah, and then A World Needs a Hero
or The World Needs a Hero came out after that
with the two bonus tracks or the two unreleased
tracks that weren't on that album. There's stuff
off of that that I still enjoy. Enjoy more than
some of the other albums that came out after,
but I mean, it's interesting because I think
when you jumped on with the band, influences
where somebody voted for an album here and also
yeah yeah and um and and i'm guessing that you
know with some of the later albums depending
on how um um how much time you've spent with
them because i think that there's And there are
some albums, some later albums that get voted
for. And then there are some that are kind of
in between that a lot of people voted for as
well. So it all goes in cycles. You know, I don't
I don't care for this album, but it's kind of
cool that you got to see that version of Megadeth.
That was a very short lived version. So that's
something you can say that you saw that a lot
of people didn't. Yep. Yeah, and that was the
one Motley Crue tour with Samantha Maloney on
drums as well. So all around, it was kind of
a weird lineup there. And Petrelli, both Petrelli
and DeGrasso were great players. And DeGrasso
left Suicidal Tendencies to join Megadeth because
he had played with Dave and MD -45, which was
a side project that he'd put together with Leaving
of Fear. Um, the fourth component was Kelly Lemieux.
I forget what band he had played in and he'd
played in a bunch of other like death metal bands
after that. But anyway, um, want to say hello
to Tony who is in the, uh, in the chat, Tony
Espin. Thank you for joining us tonight. Uh,
all right. So moving on here at 15. This is possibly
my least favorite album, but a few people voted
for this one. It's Risk. Yeah, that should have
been at 17. I don't know if you saw me give a
face when you said Super Collider. I can't believe
that people think Super Collider is worse than
Risk. That's kind of strange. A lot of people
dislike Super Collider because it's more of,
I mean. The title track is more straight -up
hard rock. There's another track on that album
called Burn, which I think is pretty good, where
Chris Broderick is shredding all over the place.
That album, people seem to judge that whole record
by the song Super Collider. Right. If he had
just put that on and... you know a single or
something outside of that record all those other
uh songs are heavy some of them are thrash metal
and you got you know chris broderick doing his
work on it it's an awesome record uh and then
they also did the uh cover didn't they for yeah
i can't remember the cover which one a cold sweat
from yeah see that was a great cover too that's
in risk when i was listening to risk today my
first my thoughts were how terrible the even
the guitar tones were. I mean, it was everything
about it was awful, except for one song, Breadline.
He sometimes can write a really good song like
Breadline or Super Collider. It's like a great,
you know, 70s, 80s sounding hard rock song with
a good melody. It's not that bad. People are
just kind of, they're just, I mean, and I get
it, you know, I get pissed off when my bands
do stuff like that too, when I'm expecting a
thrash metal song. Yeah, I think people get too
judgy on that one, and Risk is at the bottom,
everyone. Yeah, Breadline was the single off
of that one. The thing there, or the one thing
that I really noticed that I think you don't
get from other bands is how different the guitar
tone is from one album to another with Megadeth.
Yeah, that's something I can talk about a bit
along the way. Yeah. Yeah. Anthony saying that
his connection is better through YouTube. Anthony,
I, I'm, I'm guessing that with the video where
you're connecting, it just probably isn't allowing
you to connect. This has been pretty finicky
the last few weeks, even with some of the interviews
that I've done where there's been a lot of like
frozen frames and stuff like that. But anyway,
everyone type in your thoughts since I'm here.
Yeah. I've got lots to say about Megadeth, so
this is a good time to be by myself. Add some
gasoline to Ed's fire there. That's right. 14
is the album 13 by the band. Not one of my favorites.
I think this was the one where Ellefson came
back. I'm not mistaken. Yes. And I don't know,
this album left me kind of indifferent. Like,
it's OK. It has some cool tracks on it. Exactly.
But it like a lot of it is just. It's kind of
blah. Yeah, it feels like a bunch of miscellaneous
tracks. I think they came out of. And the other
thing, too, is that like. They had Black Swan
on this, which was a B -side to United Abominations.
That's right. That on United Abominations wasn't
bad. It was actually a decent song, and here
they kind of slow it down, and it's just different.
And New World Order, I think, was a leftover
of something that they had done with the Rust
and Beast lineup, because the credits have Nick
Menza. on lyrics and it has marty friedman on
for for music so again that that kind of lends
itself to what you're saying that it um that
it's a collection of just loose tracks except
they did it starts off great though sudden death
awesome tune yeah like that would be on your
best of megadeth list that tune there and that's
the one that ended up in uh the the guitar game
right I got it. What was that guitar? Guitar
Hero? The guitar game that was so popular back
then. Guitar Hero or Rock Band? Guitar Hero.
Yeah, they did Sudden Death for that. That was
like the main challenge. And Public Enemy No.
1 is a good song. But yeah, after that, it starts
to become kind of... The songs don't flow from
one to the next. Right. And so it's kind of a
disappointment from Endgame. I think, you know,
the other thing, too, is it was a weird selection
of producers here because they got Johnny K,
who's most known for working with Disturbed,
for example. And and from the get go, when I
heard that, I was like, seriously, I mean, that
just kind of doesn't fit. You know, after having
worked with some other. Really good producers.
Maybe that was what the problem was with that
one. Could be. He didn't have the right people
to sound off of. Yeah. But, you know, it had
Chris Broderick in there. Yeah. And, of course,
Sean Drover and Elvison, you know, it's always
a treat to sit down and listen to them play anyway.
Trying to figure out what led before this. Yeah,
see, okay. So. I'll bring up a point that I was
just going to mention a little bit later on.
All right, so at 13 is the EP Hidden Treasures,
which I played the crap out of that when it came
out. Because it had a bunch of stuff that was
floating around that was kind of nowhere else.
Well, actually, it was in a few different places.
I guess No More than Mr. Nice Guy was on the
Shocker soundtrack. Breakpoint seems to be on
the Super Mario Brothers soundtrack. Go to Hell
I had on the Bill and Ted soundtrack. Angry Again
is on Last Action Hero, 99 Ways to Die. It's
on the Beavis and Butthead Experience. Then Paranoid
is on the Nativity and Black Tribute. D at M's,
which looks like is on the Demon Knight soundtrack.
That's my favorite song off of it. And then last
is a Sex Pistols cover, which is Problems. And
it looks like the Japanese edition had a bunch
of demos on it. Yeah, see? So it has New World
Order, which ends up later on on 13. Yeah, see,
that's another one. Boom. Interesting. I thought
it was cool that a few people voted for the CP.
Yeah. All right. So at 12, is their latest album,
The Sick, The Dying, and The Dead? No way. That
works. That's one that you really liked. Yeah.
It's really high up on my list, which I was hoping
would push it into the top 10 slide. Man, that
tune will be back. I still can't get enough of
that song. I have to listen to it all the time.
I mean, the other day you were asking what songs
get our adrenaline going. Right. What we listen
to when we need something to pick us up. That
tune does it every time. And it's become one
of my favorite guitar jams, too. It's just fun
to play. But that whole album has got great tunes.
And, you know, the guitar solos are awesome.
Good production, the tone. It's just, yeah, I
don't understand why people don't like it more
than they do. Yeah, I don't know if that's a
case of people just not checking the album out,
maybe. Because with a lot of the people that
submitted lists, or not a lot, a few, kind of
went with everything before Risk and then didn't
give me like a full 10. There are others that
just for like the first three, four albums. So
there were a lot of people that I think just
haven't checked this album out. It's got a lot
of good tunes. Everyone go and sit down and listen
to it. Um, you'll be happy. You did. So at 11,
we have, and this album, part of the reason why
it was better than 13, this is, his end game,
is because he had Andy Sneap producing this one.
Andy Sneap produced two straight album. And I
think this album, which had Broderick on it,
had James Lomenzo on bass, had Sean Drover on
drums. I mean, This Day We Fight is a great track.
44 Minutes is a great track. 1320 is a great
track. Head Crusher's a really good track as
well. Head Crusher's my favorite tune. That's
another great guitar jam right there because
it's got a midsection that gets your head banging.
Yeah. And this is the album that Chris came on,
Megadeth. Yeah. Yeah, and this is, of course,
the album where Dave says, well, he's the best
guitarist we've ever had. Everyone's the greatest.
Yeah. Until they leave the band. That's right.
How many members of Megadeth have actually been
fired? David Elveson was fired. But think of
that. With the revolving door that the band has
had, how many people have actually been fired
and not quit? Because most have quit the band.
Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure most people can only handle
so much of Dave. need to move on yeah which is
fine i mean we keep getting good stuff and and
that that album to me that album was uh exciting
to hear you know as far especially because the
production was a big step up from yeah the last
two records which i also liked a lot but um You
know, in the early 90s, I started becoming kind
of disappointed in their tone and for a long
time didn't like it. But this is when they really
came back into a tone that grabs me in. And they
kind of built upon that since then, I think.
All right. So we're going to get into the top
10 here. See if we can stump Ed with some of
these. Music samples. And I'm the only one here.
You're the only one here. Last time around, Metal
Dan was real quick with most of these. Yeah,
where is he at? Good question. Seems like everyone's
on vacation except for us. So, all right, number
10. Number 10. That's United Abominations. You
are correct. That's one of my favorite tracks
off of that record, too. I love this album. I
do, too. This was my number three, to be honest.
Is it number three? Yeah, this is my number three.
I don't think that there's a bad track. Well,
all right. So towards the end, it gets kind of
wishy -washy. But Sleepwalker, Washington's Next,
Never Walk Alone, A Call to Arms, United Abominations,
Gears of War. bless her dead play for blood um
a two lemon i can take it or leave it the problem
with that is we have an i an ipod still in our
car so if it resets itself the first track to
always come on is a two lemon me so i've heard
it a thousand times now yeah so it's one of those
things are all right today i like this version
though a lot with christina She sounds great
on it, and I like the way they sped it up some.
I think that added to the emotion of the tune
and the story being told there. Yeah, I agree.
Yeah, all those songs you mentioned are great.
Sleepwalker's another great guitar jam, and I
love that. Yeah, Never Walk Alone. All those
tunes. The only thing that I didn't like as much
about this record was... Glenn Drover, not that
he's not an awesome guitar player, but his style
was the one that fit the least with Dave's style,
in my opinion. When you listen to the two going
back and forth, the way Al plays is so strikingly
different than Dave's that it kind of doesn't
sound like Megadeth always. So I wasn't sad when...
he wasn't on the next record. Yeah. And he's
still great. And all the songs are great. And
the solos are great. I'm not trying to say anything
negative about his talent or who he is. Yeah.
Well, he, he co -wrote never walk alone. Glenn
drover did actually. Yeah, he did. Yeah. And
then, um, there's, uh, they cover out on tiles
from Led Zeppelin. And I remember when this album
came out, Dave said that he was a bigger Jimmy
Page fan than he was a Tony Iommi fan. And I
remember at the time people were like kind of
going apeshit over that, but it kind of makes
sense. You know, the way that he plays, it isn't
straight up, you know, just chords like Tony
Iommi. So I get it. Yeah. All right. I'm glad
this one made the top 10. Yeah, me too. All right.
Number nine. The system has failed. It is the
system has failed. That is pull the chair. And
the system has failed. Came out on September
14th, 2004. Was recorded between October 23rd
and April 9th. Actually, October 23rd, 2003 and
April 9th. recorded in a bunch of different places
in Nashville and in Tempe, Arizona. It's interesting
because this was supposed to be, I guess, a Dave
solo album at one point. And it kind of set the
tone because I remember at the time, if you look
at, for the most part, Megadeth has always had
like, a lineup that's lasted a few albums where
so far, so good. So what? And the world needs
a hero. We're kind of anomalies where you had
those lineups for just one album. You either
had, you know, the lineup with, uh, with car
and Chris Poland last a few albums. Then you
had obviously the rest in peace lineup last quite
a few albums. And then. this happens and it's
a completely different band. Yes. And a lot of
people at the time didn't, didn't, didn't kind
of, I don't know if, if, if they didn't get the
album because it didn't have Elfson and some
of the other people that were, you know, known
for being in Megadeth, but. I mean, you had Chris
Poland on a few tracks. You also had, you know,
for the most part, kind of an all -star lineup
here because you had Jimmy Sloas on bass. I hope
I'm pronouncing that correctly, who was a big
-time Sessions musician, and Vinnie Caliuta.
Same thing. David has talked in interviews about
the fact that he wanted to work with Vinnie for
the longest time. but kind of couldn't figure
out how to make him fit in Megadeth because ultimately
he's more known for jazz fusion and stuff like
that. But they felt that he was a monster player
that he wanted to integrate somehow. So, uh,
yeah, well, it worked out great. Uh, for me,
I was so happy when I heard this record, cause
you know, I had given up on Megadeth through
the nineties, early two thousands. And, but I,
Went and bought this record as soon as I heard
that Chris Poland was playing guitar on this
one. Which, you know, what a great matchup, I
guess, with Vinny, I think. And Chris Poland
is my favorite player to be playing with Mustaine
as far as how their styles fit together. And,
yeah, to have that cast of characters and then
to put on that record and to hear the Megadeth
thrash metal sound. Again, right off the bat
with the first song. Oh, I was so happy. I was
going on a trip to Gatlinburg, Tennessee when
I bought it. So I spent that whole trip listening
to this album. Blackmail the Universe is probably
my favorite tune. That's another great guitar
jam. And then I also, being a Christian man,
I loved his version of Psalm 23. That was a cool.
heavy version for him to uh you know recite that
song over and uh you know there's been other
christian metal bands that have done versions
of that but i think they did the best one i've
heard uh so i was really happy with this record
especially with chris poland and i'm i'm kind
of sorry he couldn't uh do another record or
two with him after this yeah he played Does lead
on all tracks except for I Know Jack, Truth Be
Told, and The Scorpion. Yeah, there's lots of
great thrash metal tunes on that record. That's
one that people should revisit if they haven't
given it, you know, much attention. Okay. Let's
move on here. Number eight. Okay, that's coming
off of one of the records I don't listen to.
So I'm going to say, we already picked World
Needs a Hero. It's got to be Cryptic Writings.
Yeah? It is indeed Cryptic Writings, released
on June 17th, 1997. You can tell from the tone
of that guitar. Right. That's one of the things
I was alluding to before. You can really tell
the guitar tones from album to album kind of
place where certain tracks come from. And I like
what I heard on that better than both euthanasia
and risk. So maybe I should go listen to that
record again. Yeah, this. All right. So let me
give some of the details first and I'll get into
it. So this was recorded at a tracking room in
Nashville and the castle in Franklin, Tennessee.
It was recorded by Dan Huff, who's known for
being a real melodic rock player and singer.
And he was the lead singer and guitarist of a
band called Giant. His brother was the drummer.
They just released a new album. He's no longer
in the band. He writes a lot of stuff for other
artists and he produces a lot of stuff. So the
singles off of this track or off of this album,
excuse me, are Trust, Almost Honest, Use the
Man, and A Secret Place. And, all right, so this
is an album that when I got it, it took me a
little while to get into it because of the fact
that it was so different. To everything they
had done before. Especially those singles. Trust.
Almost Honest. And A Secret Place. They're. They're
heavy songs. But they're. Kind of depressing
songs. Like they're. Not to say that Megadeth
is. Happy music. But it's. More on the side of
being. a little darker. So, so yeah, so it has
some, some, some ingredients that you can find
like on euthanasia and on countdown, but it's,
but the riffs are darker. They're, they're coming
from a different place is, is what I'm trying
to get at. And I like, I like those. I mean,
three of those four singles, but the, The sample
that I used is from the last track, which is
FFF, which is the thrashiest thing on here. Vortex
is pretty thrashy. And She -Wolf is a track that
they've played a lot in concert. That one and
Trust. I'm kind of tired of hearing those. I
want them to replace those with a couple of thrash
metal tunes. Yeah. I understand that's what a
lot of people like. But see, I don't know if
it's more so that it's what other people like
or if it's what Dave likes. Yeah, well, yeah,
that's probably a lot of it, too. Those tunes
are probably a break between the tougher songs.
It could be. When they're up on stage, you know,
physically. Yeah, it could be because, I mean,
and even, let's see, the Disintegrators is a
track that I used to listen to quite a bit back
in the day. That's a thrashier track as well.
It makes me depressed when I hear Jeremy say
that he saw Megadeth a couple times and was bored
as hell both times. And I just keep thinking,
man, if Dave would let me help him with that
playlist a little. like i just mentioned jeremy
would have a good time yeah i don't i don't one
of the things that bugs me about them and i've
they're one of the bands i've seen the most live
but after he came back with the system has failed
yeah they have this kind of dress code where
they all look like waiters on stage they're wearing
you know buttoned down white shirts yeah And,
and Black Slacks and it's, you're a thrash band,
you know? Yeah. Even, even, even Metallica to
today is still wearing t -shirts and jeans or
even James now is wearing some like, the pants
he's wearing looks more like he should be in
a Western than up on stage. Yeah. It still kind
of fits more what they're doing than. a button
down white shirt where I'm waiting for them to
come over with a tray and give you an hors d
'oeuvre than, than to bust out some, some spider
cords, you know? So, um, I, I think the album,
like I said, the album isn't for everybody. I
think half of it is really good. There are some
tracks that I've never kind of cared for. And
I get it. Some of these songs have been on the
radio quite a bit. So if those tracks, if you're
not into them, you're still not going to get
into them now. Yeah. All right. Moving on. Number
seven. That's dystopia. You were scared you weren't
going to be getting these. Yeah, I was. Love
this record. All right. So released on January
22nd, 2016. Recorded between April and July 2015.
Was recorded in Leapers Fork, Tennessee. Recorded
by Dave Mustaine and Chris. Rake Straw. Singles
off of this album are Fatal Illusion, The Thread
is Real, the track you just heard a sample from,
Dystopia, and Post -American World. This is the
only album to feature Kiko on guitars and Chris
Adler from Lamb of God on drums. There were a
few guest appearances on here. You mean the only
album with Kiko and Chris together, right? Yes,
yes, yes, yes. It was a good combination, though.
Yeah, Chris plays... I think he might play something
on Endgame, if I'm not mistaken. I can't remember.
But go ahead, what are your thoughts on this
one? But this is my next favorite of the newer
records, you know, besides The Sick, The Dying,
The Dead. Great. This one is a good mix of both
heavy metal and thrash metal tunes, you know,
which Dave seems to do a lot. And it's got a
great production. It's even better than Endgame
and what came before it. Kiko's first. album
recording with Megadeth, and I was just blown
away getting to know Kikos playing through this
record. Love, Fatal Illusion, that's a great
guitar jam. A couple other tracks that I play
a lot, Post -American World. Post -American World
has this awesome, just good old -fashioned heavy
metal, Metallica, Megadeth riff that you listen
to and you think, how has nobody else? come up
with that before because it's so simple but it's
so heavy and it's got a great groovy jug gets
your head banging um and then uh the one after
that poisonous shadows that's got um really fun
guitar riff in it and a good melody all the songs
on this record have good melodies um there's
nothing The only thing that I maybe don't care
so much for is the Emperor. On a lot of these
records, some of the tunes that I end up not
caring so much for is when he does those little
talking bits over things. Dave, I know you're
listening. As you're recording this new record,
please, you can just continue doing that. We
don't need that anymore. If you have to do a
talking bit, bring somebody else in that doesn't
sound as creepy as you do at your age now. I
think it'd be better to... And start doing away
with that. I don't know. He seems to like throwing
that into a lot of tunes and he does that some
on this album too. But yeah, this is another
record. I think that if you've passed it over,
you should put it on and listen to again. And
if you're a guitar player, I don't know how you
can't love songs like fatal illusion. It's just,
it's fun. Yeah. I'm not a fan of. Dave's talking
bit as well. When I was looking at United Abominations,
when it gets to, um, uh, America Stan, I think
is what it's called. He does a big bit in there
too. He does. Well, that song is like seven minutes
long and he talks through like five minutes of
that song. Yeah. It's just too much. It's yeah.
Yeah. He needs to bring somebody like Christina
back in. If he needs to do a talking bit, you
know, somebody that makes it interesting. Yeah.
Yeah. All right. Number six. That's tough there.
Man. I didn't catch the tone on that one. I can't
believe it. Number six. I'm wanting to say. Euthanasia.
But I feel like euthanasia has a muddier sound
than that. It is euthanasia. Oh, okay. All right.
Yay. I'm still 100%. Euthanasia actually has...
Which song was that? You just tracked that off.
That's Elysian Fields. That's the beginning.
Okay. Yeah. Euthanasia actually... It might be
because of the speaker that I'm listening through.
It's actually one of the knocks when it came
out is that it was kind of too polished. That
was one of the things. And I think some people
feel that it was kind of a cleaner version of
Countdown. I remember back in the day that some
people said that. So let's see. This came out
November 1st, 1994. recorded in phoenix arizona
so it's kind of the last one that was recorded
in arizona before he moved things to nashville
yeah um singles are train of consequence and
a two lamon um but i mean i listened to this
album a ton back in the day and i played reckoning
day a lot train of consequence obviously uh addicted
to chaos Elysian Fields. Elysian Fields is my
favorite track off of the album. And then the
track Victory is, again, it's a thrashier song
where the lyrics of the song are Megadeth song
titles. So he kind of ties that all in together.
And I remember at the time. As kids, we were
like, wait a second. Is this Dave signaling that
this is the end of the band? Is he kind of celebrating
what they've done before this? And that's why
he's naming all those tracks off? But yeah, this
album, you're not so much of a fan of, right?
Yeah, they totally lost me with this one. And
I was just listening to more and more thrash
and death metal bands by this time. And, you
know, I had plenty of other things to keep me,
to entertain me than this. And the tone, too,
this is where I feel like the tone got a little
bit worse on Countdown as far as, you know, because
I like that more raw, edgy, you know, in the
garage kind of guitar sound. You know, a couple
of dudes with... Marshall stacks or whatever,
but on countdown, it became a little more produced.
And on this record, I think I feel like the,
the jug went away completely to where, uh, I
don't know. I just, I didn't hear it at all anymore
on the next few records. And it wasn't until
the system has failed where I kind of started
to hear some of that, you know, thrash metal
bottom end getting back in there. Um, and then
the songs too, every song to me is just kind
of, a standard, you know, verse, chorus, verse,
chorus, guitar, solo in the song, and then do
it again. So it's just, you know, especially
with me listening to so much, you know, death
and thrash metal bands that are just doing so
many more interesting things. I mean, I mean,
just compare this to like rest in peace. There's
just so much more, especially for a guitar player,
so much more interesting things going on. on
albums like rest in peace that it's just, it
was euthanasia. I just, I don't need, I don't
know if I even heard anything off of this until
several years later, because I just wasn't paying
attention at this point. Number five. Killing
is my business and business is good. 1985, May,
I believe, or June. We are five for five. Ed
was, Shaking off air that he wasn't going to
be getting any of these. But he is correct. Was
released in the UK May 14th, 1985, and then June
12th in the US. Recorded between December 84,
January 85. Was recorded in Malibu, California
at Indigo Ranch, Crystal Sound Labs, Hollywood,
California. Produced by Dave Mustaine and Carrot
Faye. And no singles released off of this one.
No. But, yeah, I mean, the controversy for years,
besides the Metallica songs, per se, the songs
that he redid with Mechanix. Versus Four Horsemen,
the Nancy Sinatra cover as well. So this album
was always kind of steeped in controversy, and
it's been re -released a million times. Yeah.
With different sounds, with different lyrics,
with different track listings. different track
listings. And I got mad about these boots. Yeah.
So they had to alter the lyrics and there's a
bunch of things. Um, and, and I think that that's
kind of turned fans off to this album because
there's so many different versions of it. There's
so many different product, you know, um, ways
that it's been produced and mixed. that I think
a lot of people just like the original. Yeah.
Yeah. It's a tough record to either love or hate,
I guess. If you're a thrash metal guy, it's,
you know, one that's going to be in your collection
and it's got, it's got really good songs, but
you know, by the time records like P cells were
coming out, which sounded so much better. Right.
Um, sonically, uh, you just weren't picking this
one up. And unless you just got sick of, you
know, hearing P cells and wanting to hear something
different. Right. I'm talking back in the beginning
when those were the only ones to listen to. And
then, you know, as time went on, you know, you
just kind of listened to this one less and less.
This, I tell you what though, this is one record
that I think the songs are good enough that if
they, re -recorded some of these like some bands
have done they would sound pretty cool if they
can do it without losing the energy of the songs
which I think Megadeth still has quite a bit
of that thrash metal energy especially when you
listen to them write songs like We'll Be Back
if they can keep that same kind of energy and
re -record some of these songs man I'd love to
hear them Yeah. Like mechanics, you know, it's
not as great as the four horsemen, but it's still
a cool song to hear as fast as it is. Right.
And, uh, you know, you turn it up loud on a good
home stereo or in the car. And if they did rerecord
that with some good heavy tones and a good drummer,
that'd be, that'd be a good jam. I think. Yeah.
I think they got the right drummer in place to
do it with Dirk. He's a ridiculous drummer. Oh
yeah. Yeah. They sure would. So Dave, I know
you're listening, so take our advice there. Listening
or watching? Let's see. Next up, we are up to,
that was number five. Number four. I didn't hear
that very much. I didn't hear it. Number four.
Oh, so that was an acoustic guitar. Number four.
Yep. Just one note I'm giving you. Number four.
It's risk. No, no, no, no, no. We already did
risk. Man. That would have to be Countdown to
Extinction. It is Countdown to Extinction. Man,
I almost missed that one. You got me with that
one -note acoustic guitar there. That's Foreclosure
of a Dream. Yeah. So let's see. This was released
July 14, 1992. It was recorded between January
6th and April 28th, 1992 at the Enterprise in
Burbank, California. Produced by Max Norman and
Dave Mustaine. Singles off of this album are
Symphony of Destruction, Foreclosure of a Dream,
Sweating Bullets, and Skin of My Teeth. This
album, are you a fan of it at all? I believe
you're not, correct? Yes and no. I felt the same
about this one as I did when the Black album
came out. Okay. Which is something I've been
dealing with for years with all of my hard rock
bands from the early 80s, becoming more and more
hair metal -like. You know, it's like I was going
through it all again with thrash metal bands
starting to become more mainstream heavy metal
and nothing against that. But that's not the
bands that we grew up on. So I was checking out
at this point, although, you know, songs like
Symphony of Destruction are great heavy metal
songs and it's still got the jug in there, too.
You know, it's that sound like you hear in symphony
that disappears as some of the other records
come along. But anyway, I told you a few months
ago that I put this record back on after hearing
you talk about it one day and really enjoyed
it. And so I've been liking it more as time goes
on when it comes up in my playlist. It's got
a lot of good songs. I can see why it's a great
record. And even though I was disappointed in
it, I'm still happy that Megadeth had such great
success with it. Number two album only didn't
get number one due to Billy Ray Cyrus with his
achy, breaky heart. And I think that's why they
kind of followed that trend after this. I think
Dave was just hell bent on getting a number one
any way he could. But this album, I mean, Skin
of My Teeth is a real heavy track. Um, high speed
dirt, the closer ashes in your mouth. I mean,
I've listened to this album quite a bit and I
don't know if, if, if I put this up against the
black album, I might actually pick this over
the black album. I mean, I would do that any
day. Yeah. Big time. I've got, I'll have this
one in my collection, but not the black out.
Um, So you said Billy Ray Cyrus beat him out
on this? Yep. So that stinks. A Kentucky boy
kept my thrash metal idol from being number one.
I'm sorry, Dave, about that. That's terrible
to hear. Yeah, it's even in. Wikipedia. It says
debuted at number two on the Billboard 200 with
the first week sales of 128 ,000 copies. It was
prevented from entering the chart at number one
because of Billy Ray Cyrus' long chart -topping
reign with Some Gave All. The album was acknowledged
as the band's commercial breakthrough, and according
to author Pete... Brown, and Harvey P. Newquist,
Megadeth reached the heights of popularity and
critical acclaim with this particular record.
Two years after its release, it was certified
double platinum. Now, this record was a better
fit for Marty Friedman, I think. You think, you
know, all of these records fit Marty Friedman
style more like, you know, when I heard Marty
Friedman was joining Megadeth, I was skeptical
at first. Not not that I knew he was. I mean,
I knew Marty Friedman was one of the best around,
but I was skeptical how his style would fit into
Megadeth. And of course, they gave us rest in
peace. And. You can definitely tell a difference,
you know, between Poland. And Friedman, it's
just, you know, Friedman is just a lot more melodic.
He's more for writing solos for heavy metal songs,
not so much thrash metal. But they really pull
it off really well, even though Rest in Peace
is mostly a thrash metal record. And then, of
course, you know, with Tornado of Souls, you
know how legendary that solo is. That's just
a good heavy metal song, really. I mean, it's
a little bit thrashy, but not totally. But, you
know, the songs on this became way less thrash,
but it did fit Marty Friedman's style a lot more,
which I think is kind of what also helped drag
them in that direction. You know, Dave was wanting
more success, I guess, in the mainstream world.
And with Marty's, with his talent and his style,
he was able to capitalize on that for a few records.
It seems to me. Right. Makes sense. You know,
I'm not a huge Marty Friedman fan from Cacophony
or any of that stuff, but I'm sure you've heard
plenty of that music. Yeah. So we have all types
of predictions in here as to what order. Is going
down here. I think Edgar is right twice so far.
Oh, yeah, he's right three times, I think. Edgar
Winters, he's got it right three times. So let's
see if he's right with the next one. Number three.
That's so far so good, so what? And I think that
was. The last song on the album, which name,
the title track's escaping my memory right now.
Is it the last track? It is the last track. It
is Hook. Hook and Mouth. Hook and Mouth. Yeah.
So this is... Guitar Jam. This was released January
19th, 1988, recorded in 87. Recorded at Music
Rinder in Los Angeles. Producer is Paul Laney
and Dave Mustaine. Singles, coincidentally. First
single is Hookin' Mouth. Second single was their
cover of Anarchy in the UK. Third is Mary Jane.
And fourth is In My Darkest Hour, which is probably
the biggest song off of this. Yeah. Oh, wow.
So Steve Jones did the solo on Anarchy in the
UK. I didn't know that. Yeah. Okay. So what are
your thoughts on this album? I don't know if
I've heard you say before. It's funny because
a lot of people voted this one high up. Obviously,
it's number three. Yeah, it's their third album
as well. So that goes to show that there were
a lot of people that voted that just did their
early stuff. There's stuff off of this that I
really like, and there's other stuff that just
has never done anything for me. Like, I love
Hook In My Mouth. I think the Anarchy in the
UK cover is cool. In My Darkest Hour and a band
I was in, we used to jam that song quite a bit.
Yeah. But I can't say that there's really much
more off of this that, you know, after Peace
Sells, I always felt that this album was kind
of a letdown. But there are people that voted
this number one. Yeah, well, I think it's changed
over time, people's feelings about it. Could
be. It could be. This is an album which had a
standalone lineup with Jeff Young, Chuck Buehler.
Chuck Buehler was Gar Samuelson's drum tech.
He knew all the material. Not sure where Jeff
Young came from, but also Jeff Young. I remember.
seeing all the promo photos for this and he kind
of looked out of place because he had like, he
had the big poofy hair. Yeah. And even, and,
and listen, although Mustaine played thrash,
his hair was on the sunset strip side of His
and Ellison's, they all had big hair up until
about Countdown. Yeah. And it changed more so
because of grunge, I think, than it did because
of, you know, maybe people thinking that they
were posers. But anyway, what do you think of
this one? So, yeah, it was a big disappointment
after P -Cells, because that's what you're expecting,
something like P -Cells or better. But like a
lot of those records back then, like even when
I first listened to South of Heaven, I didn't
know what to think at first because it was so
different from Brain and Blood and not what I
was expecting. But also back then, even when
you didn't like something that you bought, you
kept listening to it for a couple of weeks. And,
you know, and if the album is, you know, legitimately
good, it starts to grow on you. It's hard to
know how to feel about the production of this
record. There's ways in which it sounds better
than P -Cells, but other ways in which it doesn't.
Like the guitars aren't as cool as they were
on P -Cells, but it still somehow has a little
better studio production. It still seems to have
a lot of that reverb, you know, like their other
two records did before. My favorite guitar jams
on this one, Into the Lungs of Hell and Set the
World on Fire. Those are fun to play. And then,
like you said, it's got some great songs like
Mary Jane, In My Darkest Hour, Hook and Mouth.
All of those are great, even concert songs. And
the others are ones that have just kind of grown
on me because I listen to them with the rest
of the record. But, you know, Liar and 502, they're
just kind of... thrown in there i think but this
album though has continued to grow on me and
i think i've noticed you know especially with
all the communications we can have on the internet
now i see a lot of people even saying this is
their favorite record nowadays right yeah i'm
sure it's people that you know were my age when
this came out I got to see them on this tour,
too, up in Cincinnati. So that was pretty cool.
Got to see them with Warlock opening open, I
think. Okay. With Doro. Yeah. So that was kind
of a nice memory. Although I was disappointed
not to be going and seeing, you know, Chris Poland
playing guitar. Right. Okay. But it did, you
know, it kept us. You know, satisfied long enough
to get us to rest in peace. Absolutely. Number
two. That's Devil's Island off at Peace Hills,
but who's buying from September 19th, 1986? September
25th, 1986. At 19th must've been one of the other
records. Yeah. Recorded between February to March,
1986 at music grinder track record and rock steady
in Los Angeles and mad dog in Venice beach recorded
by Dave Mustaine and Randy Burns. The singles
were wake up dead and peace cells. And this was
my introduction. to the band. And it is, um,
one of the reasons why I've always told this
story, how, uh, back in the day in high school,
you were either a Megadeth and Anthrax fan or
Slayer and Metallica. And I was always, I'd heard
this. Um, my neighbor had it. We listened to
it in his garage. And hearing Wake Up Dead for
the first time, I was like, oh, shit, what is
this? Me too. You know, going from listening
to Kiss and Quiet Riot and, you know, what else
had I listened to up to then? Y &T and I had
a compilation that had. Black Sabbath doing Trashed
and Crocus and Triumph and Rush and Van Halen
and stuff like that. And then all of a sudden
you hear Wake Up Dead. And it's like three different
songs. If you really dissect it, it's the main
part. Then there's the solo part. And then there's
that ending part. And I remember listening to
it. It just blew my mind. I'm like, what is this?
is the precursor to the breakdown in music, what
came out after. And it was mind -blowing. And
then going from that to The Conjuring, to Peace
Sells, to Devil's Island, that first side is
a perfect album side. Those four tracks. Devil's
Island, to me, is my favorite track off of this.
Um, I know it's more of an obscure track, but
again, to me, that, that first side is a perfect
album side and I've listened to it so many times.
I just, I love this album. Um, when the reissue
came out, which I have the box set behind me
here. Yeah. I had to pick it up because it's
one of my all time favorite albums. Um, it marked,
it definitely marked a before and after in the
soundtrack of my life. And I had friends that
continued listening to a lot of the more radio
friendly stuff. They were more into Def Leppard
and stuff like that. And, and they'd gotten into
poison and, you know, I was listening to some
of that stuff as well, but I was. Going off into
the thrash direction, you know, I was again,
I was heavily into Megadeth and Anthrax and,
you know, really into Maiden and really into
heavier stuff than what a lot of my friends were
listening to. I wasn't into Slayer and I wasn't
into Metallica, but I was still listening to
this stuff. And, you know, for me, for my money.
This this was like the heaviest thing going around
that at the time. So due to my ignorance. But
anyway. Yeah. Your ideas on P cells. Yeah, it
was a mind blowing moment for me, too. Of course,
I was. 16 when this came out, I bought this in
October of 86, along with rain and blood, and
I heard both of those for the first time and
my friends. car we had just started you know
driving that year and uh yeah it's when i heard
when i heard the first part of wake up dead it
was it was like when i heard black sabbath for
the first time where i heard balls to the wall
for the first time it was just so wickedly cool
different than anything i'd heard i mean it was
like getting high for the first time it was so
exciting um And as you said, to me, every song
on this record is a single besides I ain't superstitious.
Because for me, it just continues on. I love
Good Morning Black Friday. I love Bad Omen. Bad
Omen has just got one of the greatest, grooviest
guitar riffs in it of Megadeth's entire catalog.
If you want to try to get good at playing guitar,
try to nail that riff. educate the hell out of
you. And the way, you know, I ain't superstitious.
I don't hate it, but, and I don't skip over it.
Um, but I could have used, you know, an original
Megadeth tune there to round it out to perfection.
The only reason it wouldn't be a 10 out of 10
is that, that song there, because my last words
is also another perfect album ending. Yeah. And
Edgar was right. It was my number one. You know,
it's those two records, this and Rest in Peace.
It's hard to say which one's better. But because
of my this being my first time experience with
Meg Death and just that sound, it sticks with
me more than Rest in Peace does for that reason.
And yeah, I bought this record over and over
again. I've got those new 2011 versions, which
are much better than the 2004 remixes, which
I think is your box set there. I think it's probably
that recording, the 2011 maybe. Yeah, it has
the 2011 and it has the original mix as well.
Cool. That's nice. It's got the album on CD and
on vinyl. I couldn't get the vinyl out. And I
had to gingerly cut it because the jackets are
stuck inside the actual sleeve. Yeah. So I had
to gingerly slice the jacket, hoping that I wouldn't
destroy it. And it's a white marble finish. It's
really cool looking. And also, man, you also
have to give such great props to Gar and Chris
Poland on this album. I mean, this was a magical
moment that will never be done again. It was
just perfect, the way they all gelled together
and created that sound. And the guitar solos
on this album, every one of them is interesting.
I never get bored with any of the guitar solos,
as many as there are on this. And when you listen
to Dave and Chris going back and forth, I mean,
they sound like they grew up playing guitar together.
The way they played added to just that wicked
sound of this entire record, even in the guitar
solos. Yeah. It's interesting as well how both
Chris and Gar were both more jazz -influenced,
the two of them. Yeah. How they made it work
and how... So many big players in the rock and
metal world come from other forms of music and
kind of spice things up because they're not playing
things in a standard way. And they're bringing
in kind of a different feel to things. And in
this album, for example, it's completely memorable.
Yes. Yeah, this was just a magical moment in
heavy metal history. Yeah, absolutely. It'll
never be forgotten. All right, so number one.
I think we already know. Number one. Rest in
peace. That was, dang, I'm forgetting the title
tracks here. That was Take No Prisoners. It is
indeed. Yeah. One of my favorite guitar jams
off of that record. All right. So this was released
September 24th, 1990, recorded between 89 and
90 at Rumbo Recorders in Canoga Park, California,
produced by Dave Mustaine and Mike Klink. And
this is the Appetite for Destruction effect.
Because Appetite for Destruction were both recorded
by Mike Klink and at Rumbo Recorders. So I guess
it was them once again taking a stab at things
to try to get a popular album out there. But
yeah, so obviously Holy Wars, The Punishment
Is Due, Hanger 18, Take No Prisoners, The Five
Magics, Poison Was The Cure, Lucretia. Tornado
of Souls, Dawn Patrol, and Rest in Peace, Polaris.
It's good stuff, man. It is. It absolutely is.
And interestingly enough, the 2004 version has
some demos on it, and Chris Poland plays the
leads on those. He plays the leads on Rest in
Peace, Polaris, Holy Wars, Punishment is Due.
Take no prisoners. I don't believe that I've
heard them, but it interests me enough to want
to go back and check them out now. Yeah. So at
what point in your Megadeth catalog did you hear
this album? Oh, right. Listen, the singles I
heard right away. I heard Holy Wars. I heard.
Hangar 18 because there were videos out. Eddie
Trent was playing them on the radio. The local
college station, WSOU, was playing all of this
stuff. So did you hear this before P -Cells?
No. No, okay. Not at all. I heard this right
when it came out. I heard P -Cells back in 86.
Did you? Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember
So Far, So Good, So What coming out and remembering
the Shocker soundtrack, which had come out before
that, which had No More Mr. Nice Guy on it. That
got some airplay in my area, and I remember them
saying how it was an Alice Cooper cover and Anarchy
in the UK being a Sex Pistols cover as well.
I remember them saying that. So I remember seeing
this. seeing the video for Holy Wars and, and
even hanger 18. I remember hearing hanger 18
at first and not getting it, you know, not getting
how the, the song started out and thinking, it
sounds like somebody is not playing a right note
somewhere in there. What, what is this? And then,
and then once it got to the, and I had the single,
I think I sold the single for this, but I had
it on CD. Uh, and I had an edit of it. So I remember
I liked the edit more because the, um, it didn't
have like the, the solo in the beginning of the
song. It just kind of got into like from the,
the original riff to like the main verse riff,
which I, once I got there to that main verse
riff, that's what kind of sold me on it. but
it took me a few listens to kind of get the song.
But once I did, now I have to listen to the whole,
not the edited version, because I want to hear
the full solos, because the solos are just so
grandiose and just so good. Yeah. You just want
to hear them. I remember the 2004 remixes. I
remember a lot of people not liking it. Yeah,
I did not like it. I still don't. What I like
off of that, though, as a drummer, I like that
the low end, they increase the low end off of
it. So I remember listening to Holy Wars and
where he gets towards the end where there's all
the double bass. I remember just hearing that
and seeing my speakers just going crazy, trying
to keep up with that double bass. And I was like,
wow, this is just so awesome. You know, as a
drummer. Just hearing Nick Menza in all his glory
like that, I loved it. So Anthony's saying that
the end solo is too long. So you're saying that
you think they got the drums beefed up more on
that remix? Because to me, all I can hear is
that big bass, and I didn't notice. Yeah, they
increased the entire bottom end, the bass and
the bass drums. I'll have to listen to that in
the car and EQ it so I take out some Ellis in
a little bit and then enjoy that. Yeah, I'll
do that since you brought that up so I can enjoy
that drum there at the end. Yeah, check that
out. So you were skeptical going into this because
of Marty Friedman. Yeah, because I was disappointed
to hear. Well, no, I take that. I was disappointed
when Chris left, especially. I didn't know anything
about Jeff. We didn't hear anything about him
until So Far came out. And then when I heard
that Marty was going to be in the band, it was
just an interesting thought. You just didn't
quite get how that was going to work. Because
he was not a thrash metal guitar player. But
like I said, it works fine. They did a great
job on this record. Now, Holy Wars, this is why
it's hard to say which record is better or not.
Mainly because of that song, Holy Wars. It's
hard not to say that's the best thrash metal
tune ever made. But they did an awesome job with
that tune between the two guitar players. Because
you have Marty. who does some guitar solos in
the midsection. And then when they get to the
end thrash piece, where they just thrash out
the rest of the way, you have David doing his
own trending solo. And so they're kind of separated
in different parts of the song, but the parts
they play kind of fit their character. And you
see that a lot throughout this record. And when
you get to songs like Tornado of Souls, you know,
you have Dave backing off and letting Marty take
care of it because there's no way he's going
to, you know, fit into that tune like Marty can.
But this album, though, I play this one all the
time on guitar. Love to play Holy Wars. Hangar
18, I was kind of like you. It was a little bit
too slow for me in the beginning. Over time,
it grows on me because it is fun to listen to
the guitar playing in that one. And that's another
song where they do kind of go back and forth
playing, but they still did a pretty good job
of playing together. Take No Prisoners, man,
that song is so fun. And then I love Lucretia.
That's another guitar jam for people trying to
learn guitar to try to nail because it's hard
to get the groove down and play that clean. That
riff is... It's tough, but it's fun if you get
it. And Tornado of Souls, we don't have to say
anything about that song. Everybody knows how
great it is. The guitar solo, you know, you'll
see 100 people on YouTube, you know, showing
off how they can nail that guitar solo because
it's so iconic. Right. And for the way it ends
with Rest in Peace and Polaris, all five of those
tunes are great guitar jams if you play. The
other songs I don't care so much for. And sometimes
I will even skip over those. But I still, I mean,
you know, just putting it on and listening to
it as a whole album, you know, they all fit well
together. They flow one song to the next. But
you can tell, though, how having Marty in here,
you can kind of tell a little shift from the
thrash metal. Like there was a little bit less
thrash metal, I think, on this one. So by the
time Countdown came out, that wasn't there. You
could tell that's the direction that they were
going. Right. Yeah. But yeah, I understand why
this is number one. It's hard not to not to say
it is. And that's interesting because a lot of
people consider this the best thrash metal album
of all time. Yeah. And it's it's. That's a good
one to have as your favorite. Yeah. All right,
so let's go over the top 10 real quickly here
before ending the show. At 10, we had United
Abominations. Nine, we had The System Has Failed.
Eight, Cryptic Writings. Seven, Dystopia. Six,
Euthanasia. Five, killing is my business. Four,
countdown to extinction. Three is so far, so
good, so what? Two is peace sells, but who's
buying? And at number one, it is rust in peace.
I do want to thank everyone who's joined us tonight.
Bunch of people in the chat tonight. We had Anthony
Mackey, Edgar Winterson. We had Tony Espin. And
there was somebody else that joined us somewhere
in the chat, so I apologize. Oh, we had Dr. Sexy.
Dr. Sexy joined us. Okay. That was me doing a
little pretend character over here on the other
screen. Oh, was it? No, I'm kidding. That's a
cool name, though, Dr. Sexy. Thinking Ed's got
alter egos. So on that note, we will end the
show. Want to thank everyone that checked us
out live or that has watched the replay. Also
want to thank anyone that voted. We will be back
with a patron or I should say patron slash voting
episode. It will probably be voting on some type
of a. Hard rock or metal subgenre. We'll see.
We'll see if we get enough people to choose what
we're going to discuss. It'll be fun either way.
And, um, that should be, um, probably at the
end of August, more than likely, but we'll see
how it all shakes out. Ed, thanks for joining
me. It was a lot of fun and you got all the,
uh, all the songs. Couldn't, couldn't. Yeah,
that was fun. Yeah. I enjoyed it. Cool. I'm glad
it was a band like Megadeth that I had plenty
of commentary on. And I'm sorry for anybody if
I insulted your favorite records. I'm speaking
from a thrash metal side here. It's a fun conversation,
though. Absolutely. It was a great conversation.
On that note, we will end the show. See you guys
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